Bob Dylan: Highway 61 Revisited......... to the Danger Zone!!

[00:00]in 2020 four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums that's decided by rolling stone magazine this resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music excoriated the order and led us to making this podcast we are far from experts and we promise to do almost no research all opinions are our own unless you disagree please sit back and enjoy beck did it better this is highway 61 revisited uh well see normally i put in something funny here but i can't think of anything funny or creative so i'll just play the theme song i want to hear about the greatest albums of all time but you're just too busy to look it up on line i want to hear four guys are talking then they get off track hey man well i've got the perfect podcast for you jack beck did it better this week is a bob dylan highway 61 revisited i want to put in one of those whistles i want to put in one of those whistles to the you and i spent no less than 30 minutes looking up that whistle online to see how to find the sound

[01:03]like then i stopped siren whistle then i got pretty bored doing it bob plays that bob plays that one himself yeah so he's listed but i got some interesting facts about that there's a great rolling stone article about the making of this album if you want to i would say turn off this podcast go to your computer type in www.whatever article i'm talking about rolling stone it's a great article read it hey everybody this is beck did it better we are four music experts i wrote i have matt in minneapolis he is like the guitar of this group you need him here all the time matt say hi for us please how we doing how we doing then i have aaron in california he's like the bob dylan of the group he's done a lot of stuff with music but now he's kind of just a grouch who sits around at home matt aaron how are you doing in california i'm doing great in california it's 89 degrees in my house and i'm on my porch enjoying talking to you guys and i have russ from minnesota who's like the lyrics of this album he's always going to surprise you with his brilliance russ how are you doing rob i'm doing great i'm just like bob dylan said you're the weirdo i'm the weirdo i'm the weirdo i'm the weirdo i'm the weirdo i'm the weirdo i'm the weirdo I try my best just to be like I am, even though everyone wants me to be like them.

[02:03]Oh, my God. And the podcast. You're a genius. And then there's me, Rob from New York. I'm like Bob Dylan's harmonica. It's cool for a little bit, and then there's too much of it, and you want it to stop. All right. So today we're talking about one of the most famous albums of all time. It really is. It's the number four album on the Rolling Stone Top 500 Greatest Albums. And this really is a crossroad of folk and rock. It kind of brings it all together. A lot of people say this album started the 60s. But before we get into that, let's do something a little more important. Guys, Rolling Going. How's it rolling going? Aaron, how's it rolling going? And by the way, that's the segment name, Rolling Going. Great name. Rolling Going. I'm very happy to be talking about how it's going. It's really hot, as I mentioned, in Oakland. It gets above 90 today, which means my house is 89. But the one thing I'm really excited about that I wanted to share with you guys is an update on my love of the radio. Oh, Jesus. That I joined.

[03:00]I became a member of KCSM 91.1 Jazz Radio. And what I got eventually for being a member is a tiny radio that is powered by a hand crank. And I just. Sounds like me in junior high. Yeah, totally. My son was excited about it. I'm excited about it. So these are the wonderful things that happen in your life if you listen to the radio. For only $10 a month, they send them a letter. It says how to tune, what frequency to tune to. And you can listen to it for free. You're a sucker, Aaron. You got sucker. Put it into their free radio scam. $10 a month member supported radio. Yeah. Isn't that one of those things, though? You pay $10 a month. Isn't that one of those, like, just dumb things that you collect that you're like, hey, just keep this and put the money back into the station instead of sending me this stupid piece of crap? No, man. I'm so stoked about this radio. Also, we're about to have. So I don't know. I don't want to get too far into it, but we're about to have rolling power outages. We're going to have a terrible fire season out here. So I'm certain that the hand crank radio is going to come in handy. I'm so stoked. It's the end. It's the end of the world as you know it. And you're going to be like, oh, my God, I love this song.

[04:01]Crank, crank, crank, crank, crank, crank, crank. You are feeling fine. Yep. It's like, sweetie, if I crank this for five minutes, it powers for 30 seconds. I'll listen to the zap computer love over the radio. Computer love. Feeling good. All right, Matt. Rolling, going. How's it going? Good, good, good. Glad to be here. Hashtag rolling, going, by the way. Check us out on Twitter, right? Yep. Atbeck did it better. Twitter page is blowing up right now. All right. Yeah. No, I'm good. I'm up at the family cabin up in the great state. I'm up in the state of North Dakota, my wife's family. So going to have a great week on the water, hanging out with cousins, stuff like that. So rolling, going, great, where I'm sitting. Awesome. Russ, rolling, going. How's it going? What are you into? Well, I've started on a burgundy tonight, but soon I'm going to be hitting the harder stuff. Don't get lost in war as when it's Easter time. It's really interesting. Since we got into these older albums, we started with the Beatles and the Beach Boys. I started thinking. I wonder if my mom has any of these records.

[05:00]I knew she had all this record collection, but I've never had a record player. I've never collected records. So I went over to her house and I just asked her, can I just raid the record collection in the basement and see what you have down there? And so I went over there and I opened it. At first, I had to throw away about 400 VHS tapes to get to the records. Like every slam dunk contest from the 90s was on VHS in my basement. Everything had to be thrown away. Every Super Bowl for 20 years. It had to be thrown away. What did you at least watch the Isaiah Ryder slam dunk contest? Junior J.J.R. Shout out Alameda, California. I kept the East Bay Funk, no doubt. So I started coming across these albums and I thought maybe I could share with you guys some of the albums I came across. Oh, please do. And you did this after talking to your mom. I told my mom that I was going to go check out her her albums that were. It's it's it's it's time for one on one with Russell's mom. Oh, yeah. OK, I apologize.

[06:02]Not really. So I played that wildly inappropriate sting for it. She said, you can either go down there and look at the albums or you can just leave my house and never come back. So I decided to go down there and start fiddling through some of the albums. And it's called a podcast, mom. And if you don't like it, I'm going to go to the basement. I thought I would just share some of the ones that I came across. And then I might need some advice on how I'm supposed to go about using these albums in a second. But can I share some of the exciting ones that I came across? Yeah, I believe this. This is extremely my shit. We're on Tenterhook. So the first one I came across that I thought was really exciting was Meet the Beatles, their first album. I thought that was pretty awesome that my mom had Meet the Beatles. Yeah, she's in on the ground floor of that stuff. What's that? Does that have love me do on it or please, please me? Maybe we're not at that album yet. Aaron, I don't know that I have that knowledge in front of me. No research. Did did we not figure out all about podcast that I'm not supposed to be prompted with unprompted questions? Yeah. Oh, my God. Get out of your way.

[07:00]Russell's off. Russell's off script. He's going to get mad. He's off script. We also had the best of the Beach Boys volume two, which had surfing songs and help me Rhonda. So that's pretty awesome. Great. She had Aretha live at the Fillmore West. Oh, wow. Oh, that's good stuff. Matt, I think you would like this one. Harvest by Neil Young. Oh, yeah. That's a that's a really good one. So good. One top ten. One that may be controversial with Aaron down the road. Fleetwood Mac rumors. I got a lot to say about that one. Oh, oh, my God. Such a banger after banger. Another one that we've covered already in a special bonus podcast that maybe will be released someday is goodbye. Yellow brick road by Elton John. Wait. So in the Venn diagram of Russell's mom's records and Aaron's mom's records, we have goodbye. Are we cross? Yeah, that's where we cross. Nailed it. Nailed it. Guys, the whole Internet just went crazy. Oh, my God. My computer just shut down. I'm getting so many emails. I can't believe it. They both have the same record. It was only one of the top selling records of the 70s.

[08:01]Oh, my God. Wait a minute. Your mom breathes oxygen, too. Oh, my God. Another album that is definitely going to cause controversy with this group is songs in the key of life by Stevie Wonder. I have that one. It's so good at a basic. And then the final of harmonica. My my favorite one that I came across is the Star Wars original soundtrack on record. Oh, and then, of course, Williams. The second one I came across was Herb Albert and the Tijuana Brass. It's his greatest hits, so I don't know if it includes songs from Whipped Cream and other fancy things. So but here's where I really need your advice. Could I could I go to the advice corner? Would that work for you guys? Let's get into the corner. Let's do this. You know, and again, I was just about to do that. It looked like I was looking at something else, but I definitely. Get, get, get to the corner for Russell's Advice Corner. Oh, yeah.

[09:01]Now, for those of you who are just tuning in, Russell's Advice Corner is not where Russell gives us advice. It's where we listen to Russell's question and then make jokes about it and don't actually give any useful advice at any time. So if listeners have advice, too, they can call in. Can't they? Yeah, we got a phone line. 802-277-BEC. Call the BEC line. Leave a leave a number. So far, all the messages have been very rude and disrespectful. Hold on a sec. Hold on a sec. I got I got to write that down. What was that number again? 802-277-BEC. 802-277-BEC. 802-277-BEC. All right. All right. So here's where I need your advice. I stole all these records from my mom. I took two grocery bags home with me. So I've got about. That was going to be my question. I've got about 50 records that I took. She knew I was taking them. She was totally fine with it. I picture Russ going out like the window of the basement with two bags and running out. Sticking one leg out. Russell. Stealing from all the ones that was a theme on this podcast. And Rob talking about stealing from his mom in the last one. Oh, now, come on. That was just cash. The floodlight in the back. What? That only. She turns on with motion, like a motion detector.

[10:01]All of a sudden flashed on and she started yelling at me. She's like, what are you doing out in the backyard? You're hugging against the wall. Just going. I'm toilet papering the neighbor's house. It's just getting way out of control. But so my first piece of advice is that Russell boy, he's back. If I've never had a record player, is it okay if I get a record player? That's one of these hundred dollar record players that has the speakers built right into it. Or do I need to pay lots of money to get some super fancy setup? I have a very long story. We're just going to wait for Aaron to answer this. I have a very long story about turntables. I think it's fine. The last turntable I bought was a $300 turntable, but I ended up paying more. I ended up paying double that because the guy at the turntable shop was like, no, no, no. If I pull out the regular amp that's in there and give you a different line, like you had the USB and then give you a better ground, it's going to be better. So I ended up spending about 600 bucks on the turntable. But you can definitely get one. Aaron's wife is on. Aaron's wife is on the porch. And I'm looking at him like, doubles, $300 for a record player?

[11:04]He saw your Iowa tattoo, didn't he? Said, I'm going to take this guy. I didn't know that turntable salesmen were like car salesmen. This seems like a complete racket. The best part of this story, this guy lived in, like he had converted an apartment building into a record store, record equipment shop. And it took me like six weeks to get an appointment to get in there. And then when I bought the turntable, it took me like another two weeks to get it. And then when it was ready, I had to go take my father. And my father-in-law with me to pick up the turntable. And my father-in-law, I'm like trying to like not let him see how much I'm spending on this turntable. You know, like taking food out of his grandson's mouth. But anyway, I think to start with, yeah, definitely get one of those like suitcase turntables. Like check it out. See if you like it. And I think that's totally fine. My second question is, does a record player or a turntable really provide any sort of different audible experience? Or is it going to be the same as me listening to songs through my phone? Or is it going to be the same as me listening to songs through my phone?

[12:00]Oh, it's so warm. It's so warm. It's so warm. You can hear the crackle. You know what's great is when you have a record that gets a little warped and then it sounds all fucked up for the rest of the time. Ooh, and it's so big and you got to store it somewhere. Oh, yeah. That's my favorite part. And then you go to the car and you want to listen to the record, but you can't because it's a car. There's a record player in the car. Ooh, yeah. And you know what the problem with your phone is? You always have it with you. It's always on. It always will play that next one. No problem. No, you should definitely get a record player. Russell, have you been listening to all of these Top 500 albums on your phone? Just like playing on your phone speaker? What other? My guess is most of our listeners do not have a record player. Here's the thing. I'm not a guy who will say vinyl sounds better because I honestly don't know how I could tell in a blind taste test. I like the ritual of putting on an album. I like that it forces me to sit and listen to a whole album. But I don't. But I do have qualms with listening to music over phone speakers.

[13:02]I mean, those phone speakers are better now than they used to be, but they're not the same. I would say most of the time I'm listening to headphones through my phone. Yeah, yeah. But then I have those moments where I don't put both headphones in and I miss half the lyrics on an album because I'm not aware of this. Classic. Classic mistake. I think headphones on streaming, that's a perfectly acceptable way to listen to music. But if you're just listening, if you're just playing it out loud on your phone, I think you're missing out. Yeah. I will say last time when Russell announced that Yellow Submarine was a great instrumental of the Beatles, I thought that was strange. I'll say this. You know, having the physical record and looking at the album, looking at the cover, you know, we used to do this with CDs. You know, you'd open it up and you'd open up that big sheet and look at the song. Some of them have lyrics, things like that. That's something people just don't experience right now. You just go to your phone, go to whatever system you have to listen to your music. And there's something about. Putting a record on, looking at that album, flipping it over, being careful with the record when you take it off.

[14:04]That just it gives it just a little bit more reverence for the music. And that sounds super corny and I get it, but it's kind of fun in today's digital age of doing everything to have something physical to touch and put on. And just that's exactly what I'm talking about. At least to me. Audio Technica. That's my turntable. Audio Technica. I finally remembered. Yeah. It sounds more like an experience, Matt. It's an experience. Yep. Kind of like live music. And so finally, the third and most important thing is. I would say porno. Porno magazines are very similar. Way different than watching it online. You flip them. You touch them. But the experience. The experience. More of the imagination. I would imagine. You're careful with them. I think most importantly, though, what I really want to know is, is there any way that I can use the fact that I'm now an owner of a record player to do better in the online dating world? Can I change my profile to show that I'm a. Record player owner, or does that just make me a pretentious douchebag?

[15:04]Yeah. No, you're going to get a like a lineup of full on dorks who want to hang out with you. But if you like dorks, like, then you're good, man. Horny dorks, dude. True. Yeah. It's not our college. That's our college, man. That's two words to describe it right there. Here's the thing, Russell. Here's the thing, and tell me if I'm wrong here. You don't have any kids, right? Not that I'm aware of. We're going to admit. Yeah. I'm just living with you. Yeah. I'm just living with you. Right. And you have a pretty good job. Yes. So here's the deal. I would go and buy a $20,000 record player because nobody's going to wreck it. You know what I mean? Like, you should do whatever you want. You should get the most expensive stuff and live it up. Right. I would be, I would be getting the most expensive, you know, lo-fi system I could in my house. And then just take a picture with you on a, like a bear skin rug, which you should also purchase this line across kind of in front of it, light a fire and over your genitals

[16:01]is a copy of Herb Alpert and Whipped Cream Delights. And that is your new Bumble profile. And I guarantee something will happen. Don't ever invite Rob over because if you do buy that said, a record player, he will put a pizza on it and turn it on and just see it go around and around. He's the one who'll wreck it. When I play the pizza backwards, it feels like it's speaking to me. I really appreciate the advice because luckily I already have the bear skin rug. I've taken the picture with Herb Alpert. And all's I need to do is take a picture with Herb Alpert. And all's I need to do is take a picture with Herb Alpert. And all's I need to do is take a picture with Herb Alpert. All's I need to do now is get that $20,000 turntable, and I'm just going to be racking in the ladies. It's golden. Thank you, guys. I appreciate going to the corner. I also want to say, you said a lot of our fans don't have record players, but I will say, according to our downloads, we're the only ones downloading this podcast, so I would say at least half of us, half of our fans do have a record player. All right, so now we have an unprecedented double. That's it. Time's up. Get out of the corner. That was Russell's Advice Corner. Oh, yeah.

[17:01]All right. That's enough. That's enough. Break it up, you two. That was one-on-one with Aaron's mom. Oh, yeah. We got to put the parentheses on the end of that one. Rob, how are you doing? How's it rolling? Oh, my gosh. I was just going to make fun of you guys for not saying anything. I will tell you right now, I'm happy as a clam. I am back in New York, but I do have a problem. I need to make an apology. A problem? I made an error in the last podcast that I realized when I was editing it. When we were talking about Robert Palmer, I said that he knows how to do beats, and I made the claim, the heart of rock and roll is still beating. I realize now that is Huey Lewis. That is not Robert Palmer. That is not Robert Palmer. Okay. You owe our audience an apology for that type of thing or not? So I'm going to play the official Beck Did It Better apology. And now an apology from Beck Did It Better. I'd like to take this chance to apologize.

[18:03]Beck Does It Better podcast. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know what? Screw it. If you were really mad about it, you would have called into the Beck line, and nobody did. So bite my balls. All right. Wait a minute. What's that number again? What's that number? That number to bite my balls is 802-277-BECK-2325. That's the Beck line. Rob, I also have to come clean. Can I come clean about something? Absolutely. Oh, boy. A few weeks ago, we were listening to the Beach Boys, and I thought that a song, a country song may have been around, and we may have subjected our listeners to about eight minutes that they will never, ever get back. I'm not subjected. I did it twice. I enjoyed it. I may have spent an hour or so Googling round and the boondock song or whatever it was called, trying to find any combination of anyone who would call it around, and I didn't quite find that,

[19:01]and I started getting into researching a cannon versus a round, and I couldn't really figure it out. So, Rob. We might need to give it the Beck Did It Better apology here. And now an apology from Beck Did It Better. I'd like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody. Beck Does It Better podcast. Oh, yeah. That was the best part of the show, Russell. And you know what? I doubled up the editing. I played it twice, so it was actually 16 minutes of us digging through a song that none of us have ever heard waiting for a round, which, surprise, surprise, was at the end. No song has ever started with a round, ever. All right. I remember where we wrote this. Oh, my God. No, we're not doing this again. We're not doing it. Apologize, Rob. Oh, no. Apologize. Okay, I'll apologize. No, I won't. I can't do it. I never apologize. All right. That's a philosophy in my life. All right. So, let's real quick. We're talking about Bob Dylan and Highway 61 Revisited.

[20:02]Anybody have any history with Bob Dylan or this album in general? I want to just say no. My history with Bob Dylan was that, uh, uh, I was always, like, a fan of Bob Dylan. Um, strangely, I bought, at some point, like, at Sam Goody, I bought, they had, like, three CDs for 30 bucks, so that was, uh, another side of Bob Dylan, freewheeling Bob Dylan, and the times they were changing. Um, so that was always what I listened to a lot. Um, I think my favorite Bob Dylan recording is Karina Karina off of, uh, another side of Bob Dylan, which is not a song that he wrote. Uh, and then, weirdly, in high school, I got into Time Out of Mind, so I think I'm, like, the only person who was into that record. Um, but I really loved it. Um, but I mostly, like, I think he's full of shit, but I think he made some great music, so I'm excited to talk about this album. Wow. There's a hot take right off the bat. Man. Man, what's your history with Bob Dylan? Uh, I think it's just that I've always known who Bob Dylan is. He's from Minnesota. We're from Minnesota. He went to the U.S. Okay, mark the time. We just mentioned Minnesota.

[21:00]I can't, I was waiting for that moment. Right. You know, and everybody from Minnesota, if anybody's... I just, when you say we're from Minnesota, I just have to clarify that doesn't include... Well, it's the basement. I was the basement of Minnesota. But anybody who, anybody who's sneezed in Minnesota once, you know, we try to claim them as our own kind of a deal. Right. You know, and so, for all intents and purposes, he's one of us, us three, not you, Aaron. I'm sorry. You know, and so, but like, it was just, it was always the, the touchy-feely music, and he always had something to say, and it was always protesting something. So, growing up, I just, I never cared about that. Uh, you know, I don't know. I guess I finally kind of understand him, maybe, or at least get the, the appeal. The, uh, you know, I think, I finally heard Bob Dylan for the first time, if you can do that. I listened, I listened to him, but I didn't hear him. Kind of like in White Man Camp Jump, where he can, he can, he can, you can listen to Jimmy, but you can't hear Jimmy.

[22:00]I think I finally heard Bob Dylan here. So, I don't know. I thoroughly enjoy listening to it, and this, um, this, this track that we're on, there's a lot of Bob Dylan on it, and so it's reintroduced me to Bob Dylan in a big way. Bob Dylan, I believe, is actually the number one artist on this whole list. He shows up more often than any other artist. He shows up a bunch as himself, and then once in The Band, which is a great name where he's just like, we're the band. Rob, I feel like you're uniquely positioned to comment on Bob Dylan because you've lived in, as in more places that were like near, you know, like you lived on the Iron Range and you live in New York. Like those are like super Bob Dylan places. Yeah. I lived in, I lived in Duluth, so looking at Wikipedia, it's tough because Bob Dylan was actually born in Duluth, but he was raised in Hibbing, but he seems to identify a lot with Duluth in a lot of this. I think he went to, he went to college in Minnesota, and then yeah, for his recording, he went to one year at University of Minnesota, quit right at the end, which is a baller move, and then moved out and got a recording contract and was down,

[23:00]and actually I used to work right down on West 4th Street at one of my first jobs here in New York. So we're going to talk about the, what's that string? Absolutely 4th Street or whatever. Yeah, positively 4th Street. 4th Street. I've been, I've been along that whole area. Yeah, so I don't know. Am I, am I Bob Dylan? Yeah, I kind of am. And that's a, that's an impression that only I do, and that's not the generic Bob Dylan impression that everybody does. It's very, very good. Ross, do you have any, do you have any history with Bob Dylan or this album in general? I don't really have any meaningful history with Bob Dylan or the album. I've never actually owned a Bob Dylan CD, and you guys realize that I just stole my first records ever, so I've obviously never owned a Bob Dylan record. I own three Bob Dylan records, which are Bob Dylan, his very first record, Bringing It All Back Home, and John Wesley Harding. So I don't know how I ended up with those three, but I have a very strange, yeah, strange Bob Dylan relationship. I don't, I actually don't know if I've heard of any of those albums. I mean, I assume the first one

[24:00]like was his first one. The other ones, I'm just like, what are you talking about? Bringing It All Back Home has Tamarine Man on it, so you'd know that. Oh, well, yeah, everybody's favorite. I, I never really listened and I knew all the hits and then I started to play guitar and I got into some Bob Dylan and I wanted to play it and that's when you realize how crazy his rhythms are and that's the thing is that when you're a musician like I am and I think you noticed that in the intro song, you just see things at a deeper level. You know what I mean? Like, I felt that way about this album. I'm like the, I'm like the record of this podcast. I'm like the warmth and the crackle. Ooh, you put the needle and it's, ooh, it's just a, it's a habit. I think you get it more than you want to give yourself credit for it, Rob. I, as a musician, because I think he's a great musician and like this album is a really musical and it's like, yeah. I just texted you the other day and I said, I love the freewheeling Bob Dylan more than any other album of his. To me, that's what Bob Dylan is. It's just him and acoustic guitar and when I listened to this album, you know, three or four times today, I was just blown away every time.

[25:00]I thought it was, I thought it was just excellent. So where this is on the list, this is number four. It is right behind Revolver. It is right in front of Rubber Soul. Guys, if we start a band, the key is to name it with a B word, right? Everyone, all the top five are all B words. Think about it. Now, three of those are the Beatles. That's true, but, and then number six is Barvin Bay. Rob, you know who else is out there with a B word? What's that? Beck did it better. Yes, we did it. Oh my God, I'm so psyched. We did it, we didn't even know. Let's put this album in a little bit of context. So this album came out in 65. This is actually a second album of, and I think to really put this into context, you need to know, I just want to put this because we're going to talk a ton about Bob Dylan on this podcast if we don't quit after this episode. But I think that we need to think about what Bob Dylan was doing at this time and basically, guess what? I'll give you a hint. He hated the music he was playing. Apparently, to make your greatest album,

[26:00]you have to be like, we suck, let's do something different. It would be like if all of a sudden we're like, we're going to do a podcast about muscle cars and then that's just like the greatest podcast of all time is us talking about muscle cars. That's exactly what all these bands have done. The Beatles, the Beach Boys, Bob Dylan. He got done with his sixth album. He was sick of doing the music that he was doing. He was living at the Chelsea Hotel and this explains a ton. He was getting blasted out of his brain on amphetamines. I've stayed at the Chelsea Hotel. That also explains a ton. That is a weird fucking place, man. Yeah. So imagine staying there and you're just high on speed all the time and he's just writing. Apparently, he's just getting high on speed and just writing books. He's writing pages and pages and pages and he takes these pages and he goes and he finds this guitar player from this electric band which at the time the difference between folk and electric guitars was just there's this huge uncrossable chasm, right? And so he showed this electric guitar player. He's like, oh, here's this book I wrote and it's really great and you should read it and I condensed it down and that was

[27:00]like a rolling stone and it's just La Bamba's chords. It's the chords from the song La Bamba. Is it really? And he's like, yeah. He's like, I wrote this song and it's going to be great and so they went on and recorded this album and in the middle of it he went and played this pretty famous concert at the Newport Festival where he headlined it and he came out 64? He came out in the middle of this and he played with an electric band and he was wearing like a leather jacket and a yellow shirt and everybody just started booing and of course people now are like, well, we booed because it was a short set and they said they were going to play for 15 minutes or we booed because the sound was so bad and some people say, well, they booed because he's not playing acoustic and these were all folk fans and that was like a major affront to him but he was so upset by this because he was bored with the sound. He said, I hate myself. I can't get into this music anymore and so then he came out and he released Positively 4th Street as a single.

[28:02]He hated all these folk people so much that he literally released Positively 4th Street as a blast against all these people he had been doing the folk scene with and then didn't even put it on the album he was working on. He was like, ah, fuck it. I'm putting it out as a single. I'm going to make fun of all these people. Then he went back. So this was like the hit-em-up of folk music. Yeah, exactly. It was the original diss track. It was the original diss track. It's hard to say anything past like six words in a Bob Dylan accent. It's very accent. I like how it's an accent. Like he's from the country of Bob Dylan and then he came out and he... One of the interesting things about that festival, Rob, is the first night he comes out and he plays all his acoustic stuff and then the second night he closes the festival and that's where he brings out the full band with all the instruments and everything. And so it was very like... He had a lot of thought that went into this, right? And it was very clearly... He sings this song Maggie's Farm or something like that supposedly where it's essentially he's stating I'm done doing

[29:00]what you guys want me to do. I'm going to do what I want to do now. And it's this big moment in rock and roll history, right? And then he went to his mom's basement and stole a bunch of her records. Yes. And he's like, I'm not going to do what you tell me. Have you guys seen this movie Star Wars? It's awesome. He's like, I'm going to play some old Ma Rainey tunes. Maybe his mom wants some old Ma Rainey records. He's like, I got to play some blues. Oh, it's just... I mean, it's so interesting that each one of these bands we've talked about right before their seminal album, okay? Is that the right use of that word? It sounds gross to me when I say it, but their big album is that they all were like, we hate what we're doing and we hate our fans, right? Like we just hate what they like. We want to do something totally different. And so now all of a sudden you have an album that comes out and it takes folk, the songwriting of folk and combining it with rock and blues and country. And all of a sudden you have this music that when you listen to this after listening to The Beatles and The Beach Boys, the lyrics of this, it's like a child wrote the other albums, at least to me. Like I was listening to the lyrics and I was like,

[30:00]I was like, either I am very dumb or I'm very smart that I just don't understand what he's talking about at any time. It's both with Dylan. So my thing about Dylan being full of shit is I tried to read Chronicles Volume 1, his sort of autobiography. I don't know when it came out. It must have been like our freshman year or in high school. He's completely full of shit. I mean, like, you know, to his credit, he's said so much in his music that there's no reason for him to say anything more in other media. But he's just, he's created this persona and you don't know when he's bullshitting and when he's being a genius. Like when he's talking about the one-eyed midget, like I think that's bullshit. And then when he's talking about Queen Jane, I think that's genius, but it's all in the eye of the beholder. Wait, wait. Does, does this mean I need to take that quote about the one-eyed midget off my Bumble profile? No. Every time I heard that song and I heard, I heard that midget word, I get so uncomfortable. I was like, oh, you can't, Bob, you can't say that. You can't say that. The one thing you guys were saying,

[31:00]you were kind of touching on this, Rob. The one thing I kind of got out of listening to this album and some of Bob Dylan's earlier albums is I'm just really drawn into him. When you're listening to his music, you can't help but stop it and say, oh, I missed that lyric. I need to go back and listen to that. You can listen to the Beatles or the Beach Boys kind of in the background while you're doing other things and just kind of bop along with their songs. When you're listening to these Bob Dylan songs, you can't help yourself from stopping and listening and focusing completely on what he's doing. Do you guys get that? Yeah. That feeling too? Yeah. Brilliant. No, and you know, the, his writing, right? He's, he's epic for his writing and I think you feel like the Beatles, the Beach Boys, all these people, they are writing to get to a, kind of to the end, right? I need to write three, three verses. I need to get to the end. Whereas Bob Dylan was writing 20 pages worth, right? And then condensing that down into a song where some of these feel a lot longer. They're not the three minute songs.

[32:00]They're not made for the radio. You know, they're five or six verses to go out and stuff like that. And so I think, you know, it, you, that comes through. Like he took everything he wrote down and condensed it down to, I don't know, a hundred words, right? And so you really get the meat and potatoes of what he's trying to say out of that because he is such a prolific writer. That was Matt's smart comment of the week. Ooh, that's some smart shit. Oh, yeah. Guys, I'm not going to say, oh, yeah, they added to those anymore. You have to now. That's your thing. Yeah, you are. It's so dumb. You're going to be the oh, yeah guy. He says something so smart and then I'm like, oh, yeah. No one ever wants to talk after Matt's smart shit. That's the only problem. I want to come back to Rosie's, you know, is Bob Dylan full of shit? You know, you look at some of these, there's some great documentaries about Bob Dylan, right? And then he goes out and he writes and he does these like the 64 Folk Fest, right? And you're like, oh, yeah, that's so, that's baller, man, going out there

[33:00]and doing that, right? But he knows full well these people came to hear an acoustic set and hear his old stuff and then he's just like, here, I'm going to show these guys, right? Like, isn't it just, I mean, it's kind of like Tiger King a little bit, like you watch it for, this is so great and then you're like, this is just stupid. This is just stupid. Like, why are you doing this? I do regret watching Tiger King. No, you guys are wrong. You guys are wrong. Tiger, no, Tiger King opened up everybody's eyes about illegal zoos. It's a great, and it's more like, I agree, Tiger King is more like the pet sounds of this list, but we can debate that later. Russ, what do you think? The other night, Matt mentioned some of the documentaries. The other night, I watched covers his kind of career as this blues cover artist at the beginning, and he becomes this impressionist of other folk singers. He's not even really a writer at the beginning, and then he kind of emerges out of this folk scene in New York, and then he develops into this songwriter, this amazing songwriter, and he becomes part of the

[34:00]civil rights movement. He played at the March on Washington. I didn't even know that. Did you guys know that? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know that. God, I was the only one who didn't know it? I'm the dumb one of the podcast. Damn it. Either way, though, but then eventually he kind of moves away from these protest songs and becomes somewhat he's looking at in himself as opposed to looking at all these big social issues. What really amazed me about this is he did this between the age of 20 and 25. If you think about it, it's a pretty amazing progression for someone to have this big of an impact on music by the time they're 22, 23 years old, and he's already gone electric here at 25. He's had such a huge career in a four-year period before he's even at the age of 25. It's pretty amazing, isn't it? You're 100% right. And then why wouldn't that fuck you up? That was Brian Wilson, too. He was like 25 when he did Pet Songs. It's like the Billie Eilish of his time. Guys, we're way past our prime. We should be making albums twice as good.

[35:00]Think about it. Math. Another point with Russell just brought up there. He plays all of these protests, and he's at all these marches and everything, and then the media will ask him, what do you know you're the voice of a generation? What do you think? And he's like, I don't know, man. I just play songs. And it's like, well, you know where you're playing these songs at. You've got to be trying to say something. Don't try to be hiding behind it. Everybody wanted to come out and be the Joan Baez. Is that who he was? Yeah, I think he was with Joan Baez. He wanted him to be Joan Baez, and she wanted him to be on her level. give him credit for is that he's But I'm never sure when he's just bullshit. But then I feel like he was, I kind of felt like he was trying to hide behind, you know, every day I've watched three or four documents. He's like, he's always trying to say like, no, man, I just write in song. He's not saying I've never heard him say, and I saw this, so I mean, I have to go back and look at it. Say I say everything

[36:00]in my songs. It's like he's trying to say, I just write songs that whatever people want to think about it, that's fine. I don't care, you know, and it's like, well, I get it. All right, guys, come on. Is Bob Dylan the Bill Belichick of rock and roll? Yes, where he doesn't definitely just he does. He lets his work doesn't talk to the media, right? Wouldn't Bill Belichick be I'm not the better coach if he always did the everything he did in the Bob Dylan voice. He's like on to Cincinnati next week on to Cleveland. Why haven't you been doing impressions this whole podcast, Russ? So we've been recording episodes now to get Russell's impressions. All right, that's I'm going to insert some impressions. Oh my God, that's so brilliant. One thing I have to ask before we start into the album, we have to talk about his voice before we start into this album. So Bob Dylan, his voice and his style is such kind of an acquired taste. And admittedly, I really enjoy it. But why do we like Dylan's voice when he's so different and he's so unique?

[37:00]Why do people like it so much? I think two things. One, it is different and unique. You can understand it. He's got good catchy tunes, but he has something to say and he says it so brilliantly that it's almost like the way he says it makes it cool because of what the message is. Here's the thing is that could you imagine him just being a songwriter and someone else singing his songs? Who else would sing his songs? Jimmy Hendrix, for example. He's the writer. That's one of the great things about Dylan. He's written such great songs that covers of Dylan's songs are great songs. Yeah, but those are the songs. I mean, they're not covering like Tombstone Blues, right? They're not covering that fucking 11-minute song. This is the one where he was like, I don't want to condense this book. I want to read a whole book. Desolation Row is

[38:00]just 11 minutes. So there is a lot of I took a lot of methamphetamines that night. There's an treasure trove of Dylan covers out there. So there's Nina Simone's I Shall Be Released. There's Billy Paul's Don't Think Twice It's Alright. I can't think of any off of this album, but there's a whole subgenre of soul covers of Dylan tunes that will just knock your socks off. Whatever you say here is going to get erased because I look stupid because I said something and it turns out I'm totally wrong. We need a sting for that where I say something and it turns out I'm totally wrong. You're saying like imagine someone else doing Dylan's tunes and it's happened and they're great because he writes great songs. I think they are really great. If you think about it, I was looking the other day, Bob Dylan has never had a number one hit, but he's written two songs that have been number one hits. So, Hey Mr. Tambourine Band was covered by The Birds and made it to number one. Wow. That's awesome. And the other one is All Along the Watchtower by Jimi Hendrix. So, he has written two number one songs, but he has never had a number one song. That's crazy. You know, if I was a movie, I would

[39:00]put All Along the Watchtower as a song in the movie. Has anybody done that? All right. That's Rob's dumbass take of the week. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm not letting you up. I swear to God, you're just full of smart takes in this film. No, don't pump me up now. Every episode, I've said something. You know what I said at the Beatles one? I was like, I love this first song, Taxman. You guys were like, no, that song sucks. I was like, yeah, it does suck. What am I talking about? I have no opinion. My opinion is just like water. It just goes however the shape of the container. I know that there are no stupid questions, only stupid people that ask questions, but I have another question about covers. Does Bob Dylan have to approve all these people that cover his songs, or does his management team do it, or can just anyone do it? How do all these people cover all these Bob Dylan songs? Does he ever hear that band Hanson, they come up and they want to do an Mbop version of Rolling Stone and he says no, or how

[40:00]does that work? I think covers back in the day might have been different than they are now, and sampling was a whole different thing that brought actual court cases about taking other people's stuff, but yeah, the 70s and 80s are just full of covers, and I don't know how people get permission to do that or not. 40s, 50s, I mean, everybody, yeah, and I think you could do whatever you want as long as you're giving credit and then paying the writer's take. So each song has a writer's take. So I went on the website Quora, which is definitely a real fact-based website. Who gets paid for a cover? Okay, now a pop-up ad came up. Well, now wait a minute, there's singles in my area. Okay, now I have a virus. Oh, it's gonorrhea. I just got an email from my doctor, I have gonorrhea. Just kidding, that's a back-true. So here's the thing. That's not good for the wife swapping, Rob. That's on my Bumble. That's part of the problem. Wait, wait, wait, should I

[41:00]take that off my Bumble profile? Is that what's killing me the whole time? Gonorrhea is not just a country. I do want to end just the summary of the album by saying there's a great quote at the end of this Rolling Stone article I read where he said, I know the music is more real than the booze. He's like, now I'm making music I want to make. Basically, screw the fans. I mean, that's the thing, right? How would you like to be that Dylan concert? And he plays basically what is going to be known as one of the greatest albums of all time. And you're just like, boo, you suck, play, you know, I want to hear that one with the cannonball flies. Guys, what's that name of that song? I can put it in later. No, what's the one? Wait, let me get through it. Sorry, blowing in the wind. Blowing in the wind. Thank you, idiot. You thought it was times of changing. You're dumb. You're off the podcast. Get your wife on there. Doctor, doctor, tell me the news.

[42:00]We got a replacement for Aaron on the pod. Making our own stings. I don't blame anybody who booed Bob Dylan at this stuff. If I was going to a Hootie and the Blowfish concert and he started playing his country bullshit. I want to pause you right now. You've just compared Bob Dylan to Hootie. Right? No. He's coming out and saying, I got you. You should like this music. You're expecting to go hear something else. Great, you might like it later on, but this is not what I came to hear. If I'm going to a rap concert and somebody busts out into some ballet music, I don't know. I did go to a ghostface show. He just played Teddy Pendergrass tunes and asked the ladies to come up on stage and grind with them. That was kind of disappointing. That's one reason I was always so nervous about live music. I heard about people who went and saw Prince for example. He had a whole tour where he didn't play his old Purple Rain stuff. All he played was

[43:00]his new stuff. Everybody was like, okay, yeah, what? But it's a fine line between he's going to just play Musicology and Highway 61 Revisited. Most artists, their new albums suck. Has anyone ever played Musicology and Highway 61 Revisited? That would have to be a very versatile band. That band would have to be able to be on the one as well as playing some jangly blues tunes. Cue Russ Feverstead googling anything about Beck right now. I got it. Russell, sometimes you got to pull up your Google search history and just read it one by one. That's going to be our Patreon. Our Patreon is going to be Rosie going through his YouTube history and just reading them one by one. And Russ going through his Google searches just one by one. There's a huge trend towards Beck anti-folk and how can I improve my Bumble profile?

[44:04]All right. Should we head through this album? Should we go through the album? Let's do it. What if you said no? We just turned off the podcast. I just played the theme song and that was it. All right. Great album for the keys. This thing is man like it just keyboard playing on the whole album top to bottom or I will piano the guy who played that keyboard riff on like a Rolling Stone that's so famous is not a keyboard player. He was a guitar player and he literally came in and sat down with the session was like, yeah, I'll play the keyboard. He had never played the keyboard before. Now he is the one who is playing the keyboard at that live show where he got booed as well. But this keyboard riff you hear was improvised by that guy and he just sat down and guess what's trying to impress everybody. You want to guess what that guy wore around his neck on a necklace that whistle that goes so this guy is probably this guy is better than Bob Dylan Al Cooper it's a guy named Al Cooper he is better than

[45:00]Bob Dylan he had the whistle and the keyboard yeah great start to the album just goes right oh you think yeah hot take hot take by Matt like a Rolling Stone good song where do you guys rank this as a start of an album compared to Sergeant Peppers and the Pet Sounds album I put this first Pet Sounds Pet Sounds is right behind it some people love Tax Man recency bias like this is number one to me like this is way better than Sergeant Pepper is for the first song on Pet Sounds you know I'll tell you what I'd rather listen to this than wouldn't be nice it turns out a lot of these songs on this list are pretty good I don't know if that's surprising to everybody our whole podcast is us being like this album is good we like it this song this song is actually really really good Rob right I think Rolling Stone rated this the number one song of all time

[46:00]yeah the number one song of all time so I was looking at the Rolling Stone we're not covering the number one songs but I was looking at the list and I thought we could just kind of go through the top five and see if you guys see where you think this ranks in the top five so number five is Aretha Franklin Respect number four Marvin Gaye What's Going On number three John Lennon Imagine number two

[47:16]Satisfaction by the Rolling Stones and then number one is this song by Bob Dylan What's Going

[48:08]On Imagine and Satisfaction this is number six I forgot number six by the way this song is three minutes long if you go to any part of the song brown version certified three seven days a week I would rather listen to this than any of those songs if you were like me and you turned 18 in 1998 and you went to strip clubs you heard that song all the time and I didn't I'm gonna erase that that was the song that was the song you heard in strip clubs when you were 18 you didn't hear it to live crew that was the song well you know what I I mostly was outside strip clubs protesting yes you respect women so getting us back on track a little

[49:00]bit where would you rank this song compared to respect what's going on imagine and satisfaction and does it deserve to be the number one song of all time I think satisfaction is up there I mean I put I put it I put it number two I put satisfaction one this two respect I mean imagine it's kind of a it's a good song I just I don't think it's a top five song Rosie I think I would so I would put imagine number one only because when I was a senior in high school I convinced the student council to make imagine our homecoming theme and I was so proud of myself you were a loser you were a student let's beat him up can I beat you up over zoom you convinced the student council like you you decided oh we don't need pop machines we need to we need to focus on this music you were a lobbyist for the student council we need

[50:00]to imagine to be the fall homecoming it wasn't even prom it was the homecoming theme yeah so I think imagine is like that I mean it's been downhill 22 years later he's still falling on this yeah it's the most influential I think the point is we could argue you could move all these five songs up and down however you wanted but I think what our listeners want to know and what I really want to know is what is your guys number one song of all time Matt why don't we start that's how I'm going top song of all time nice and Matt don't you don't you have a running list of one to a hundred and you move songs up and down or tell us about that list in and out not up and down but I move them in and out so I've got on my Amazon music I've got my hundred favorite songs of all time at the present time so things move in and out 21 Pilots is pushing a lot of stuff in and out lately but it was dominated by Pearl Jam early and as

[51:00]I find songs I move stuff in and out to get my top 100 of all time but then I don't rank them like one of a hundred just here's my hundred songs so wait you have a list do you have a physical list we could tweet it out Rob if you'd like tweet it out it better you had to rank your number one song of all time what would it be I thought about this a lot in preparation for this podcast because I was thinking about the fact that Black Rolling Stone is the number one song of all time so I can come up with three songs that at various points in my life have been the number one I would say the number one song that fires me up and lights my loins on fire is Sweet Child of Mine see I mean come on that comes in I just flipped over 38 burpees did you have to ask your wife that area

[52:01]of life before you announced that Guns and Roses was your favorite they had your all time favorite song no that was her that was that was his wife's doctoral thesis was on Guns and Roses yeah but I would say I also at times in my life would have said somebody to love by Queen but I wouldn't say that anymore I would say the number one pop song of all time is I've Been Loving You Too Long by Otis Redding I couldn't pick two songs that are more different than Sweet Child of Mine I mean this is like the opposite end of the spectrum listen to this guitar Steve Cropper is crushing with these little licks and then this is why you were student council president you could see both sides no no no he wasn't the president he lobbied he was a lobbyist I was not the president I was on the student council I just was not I had I didn't have much

[53:00]power his wife was the president that's why she drives him everywhere she drove yeah she drove him to school every day Rob was the president what is your number one song of all time I'm the treasurer listen you guys are idiots okay what does the number one what does the number one rock and roll song of all time need okay it needs a kick-ass guitar solo what would make it better oh I don't know maybe two kick-ass guitar solos maybe the greatest guitar player of all time maybe the one of the greatest frontman of all time and maybe the greatest drum intro of all time okay what's going to happen to you Rob wait are these the guys who played the drums outside the Target Center after a Timberwolves game no it is true

[54:00]that I have this song on a number of playlists and then when I was working in a weight room in school the song would come up sometimes and I would have to immediately change it because I was a teacher and playing it out for teachers in front of students is not great but just listen to this and it has what all of your songs are totally missing this , ZZ Top was Jimi Hendrix's favorite guitar player oh yeah who knows stuff about music now I do you guys suck true by the

[55:02]way Jimi Hendrix's favorite guitar player was the guy from ZZ Top all those are great songs I'll make sure to add them to the lists of records that I'm going to steal from my mom next time I go home if your mom is hot for teacher on record that would rule that would be so awesome that would be pretty sweet I came down to two songs my first is either Folsom Prison Blues by Johnny Cash if I were stranded on a desert island and I could only hear two songs for the rest of my life the first one would be Folsom Prison Blues by Johnny Cash now imagine that a teacher is taking their clothes off to this song oh yeah my virtual teacher keeps giving me the finger at the beginning of her zoom call I don't know what's going on I don't know what's going

[56:00]on there but if my Johnny Cash album got warped in the sun while I was out there on the island I would have to go with Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen there is so much to that song and it's so fun I'm gonna take Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen good choice did you know this song before Wayne's World I didn't know I don't think anyone knew that all of a sudden Wayne's World like 94 I think Wayne's World comes out and this scene is like I don't know 10 minutes in and you're like holy cow what is this song if you had to do a Lincoln Douglas style debate of Wayne's World versus a Bob Dylan album and like the greatest artistic achievements in US history you could easily make a case for Wayne's World right oh totally car I started listening to pop radio right around this time and it was like you would hear all the songs of the day and then

[57:00]Bohemian Rhapsody was played every like half hour like think about that that would be like what's us now that was like 20 years before so that would be like us playing a song from the 2000 that would be like if all of a sudden there's a movie that's had low by Flo Ryder and it just became like a huge like it's wild like it makes hey enough of this subject game off game on game off let's get back to tombstone I thought when it was had to do with the tombstone it's gonna be that undertaker theme song from pro wrestling like with the big gong and then I heard this voice and I was like what I did not sign up for this I was ready for I thought this is when you open up a frozen pizza and there's only like six pepperonis on there and you're like I've got the tombstone blues big time they only give you like 13 pepperonis and you used to 16 ma there's not enough pepperonis who had

[58:03]a better run this song tombstone blues or tombstone pizza if I had to pick between never hearing this song again or never eating a tombstone pizza tombstone blues you gotta go see ya the great thing about this song I'm here to tell you guys here's what's great about this song Bob Dylan shouts out Ma Rainey in this song Ma Rainey one of the early blues singers and Ma Rainey has a great dirty song called shave em dry blues I did some research on this shave em dry blues shave em dry yup yeah right and so for sure Bob Dylan listened to Ma Rainey but here's what's great about this song it was a traditional blues song I did a little bit of research today shave shave em dry and Ma Rainey is our best way to draw a through line from highway 61 revisited to today's

[59:00]number one phenomenon that's sweeping the nation WAP by Cardi B because everybody who's been up in arms clutching their pearls about these lyrics didn't know that Ma Rainey was already singing about dirty lyrics way back in the 20s and I had looked it up shave em dry was a euphemism for just you know doing it without a lot of foreplay but at the other side of the spectrum clearly Cardi B and Megan know how to like get it going ahead of time so this is what I was very excited to talk about excuse me as I go add shave em dry to my bumble profile guys I got news for you that was a left field take oh that was Aaron's left field take of the week what the hell is he talking about oh Russ just pulls out the Ma Rainey album that he took from his mom's basement shave em dry it takes a lot to laugh it takes a train

[60:00]to cry I mean I can keep talking you guys are gonna hear my voice anymore but what I love about this album is you hear this like bar room piano this kind of like out of borderline out of tune piano and what I like about this album is that it's looking backwards whereas Pet Sounds Revolver were like trying to move sound forward and I feel like Bob Dylan was taking sounds from the past and doing something different with him well I like it's the saddest little scenic highway now they've totally erased it with like the interstate but my understanding Rob was originally that that

[61:00]highway 61 kind of went through all of these areas that were really famous for musical tradition like Memphis and New Orleans so it passed us through where Elvis was born and Muddy Waters and supposedly Robert Johnson who we're going to touch on in a few weeks that's where he had the crossroads where he sold his soul to the devil Ballad of a Thin Man I have to say I do love this song this is the end of the side one this song reminds me of watching a Twin Peaks episode where it's just about a protest song where he basically is talking to the media about you don't understand who I am you don't know what I'm talking about I love it I love that little spot where he laughs they don't usually leave that kind of stuff in there that's kind of cool they left that little mistake

[62:00]one of the interesting things that documentary I was watching touched on is a lot of times before this before Bob Dylan protest songs were very direct and very straightforward and kind of narratives about something that happened whereas Bob Dylan kind of turned these protest songs into something about social institutions and how that impacts people and that people are not always like right or wrong or it's not always black or white and he kind of changed that so I thought that was really interesting and it's something I never really realized about his music it's so deep that's why when I listened to ballad of thin man I was like oh he said geek that's cool instead of thinking like oh this is about protest like I'm too dumb I'm too dumb for Bob Dylan I think that's the problem Queen Jane approximately this song the rumor is this song is about Joan Baez this guitar yeah strumming thing Rob you might know what that is that's a guitar they do it in Tom Thumbs too I

[63:01]read that he recorded this in 1965 but never played it live until 1987 and it kind of surprised me because it felt like a catchy tune but he didn't play it for 22 years if it was about Joan Baez that makes sense because he kind of holds those things close and wouldn't want to put that out I spent a lot of time trying to figure out what that reminded me of and it turns out it makes me think of the Dale Shannon song Runaway where it's like and something about that like feel like that stuff that Dylan must have listened to I love any of these Bob Dylan songs where the guitar is slow and he is just packing so many words in over and over and over I just think that stuff is so fun I especially love this

[64:00]song because it's an ABAB rhyme scheme and listen I know you guys know this and I knew it before I didn't have to look it up on Wikipedia but if you listen to it literally every other rhyme every other line rhymes it's just like it's so great that he's doing this song and again he's dissing go home when I'm like hey Bob Dylan rhymes and everybody's like holy shit Rob you're the smartest guy in the podcast words rhyme so did you guys know that Bob Dylan's first ever recording performance was on the harmonica in 1962 on Harry Belafonte's song Midnight Special and so when Bob Dylan showed up he was actually billed as kind of this budding harmonica star and so if we want to go to the end of this Queen Jane song Rob okay oh my god is this the part this harmonica let's we got to go with about 40

[65:00]seconds to go and we're going to hear the harmonica and to me this harmonica is kind of abrasive if you will you think god you could shred cheese with this thing Jesus Christ that's not pretty guys and if you if you do any research on Bob Dylan and the harmonica I can't hear you there's too much harmonica so I started wondering is there any chance that Beck plays a more pleasurable harmonica than Bob Dylan so Rob if you can pull up one foot in the grave by Beck and jump about 10 seconds into the song we'll let Matt and Aaron judge whether Beck does it better is Beck playing harmonica here then yes Beck did it better well this doesn't make me want to poke my eardrums out with a pencil so I

[66:00]would say this is better harmonica fellas what do you think who did it better I gotta get back to Beck myself Rob who did it better Beck did it better oh yeah next song Russell can I just say this yeah the fact that you found a Beck song where he plays harmonica blows my mind what exactly did you type into Google to find that I can't tell you all the work I'm putting in to try to find the answers to establish my thesis here Jesus he didn't type it into Google he bought Beck's entire discography on vinyl with his new suitcase turntable and he listened to every minute of Oh no Aaron just

[67:00]threw his phone across the yard he's so mad all right I like how Aaron is mad that he that you are not listening to it on a record and yet for almost every episode he's been recording on like a gramophone from like the 1800s he's like I really care he's like yeah he's like I really care about audio quality and then every recording is like I don't know what he's Beatles all right and that was fair criticism and that was not nice of me to do but it was very funny it's like we're all back it's like I'm on the student council all right so just to remind you the guy that played the organ solo on like a rolling stone also brought in probably the greatest instrument of all time what the hell is that that is what on Amazon is known as a actually me siren now I

[68:00]love this song Bob Dylan's dad is actually named Abraham so a lot of people think that Bob Dylan is referring to himself as the son I mean obviously to the biblical story yeah that's pretty wild when you hear that Dylan's dad was named Abraham that's pretty wild this this song is a freaking jam it's got a boogie beat I mean it's like you listen to this song and you just can't help but tap your foot to the whole time oh I love it this is another song where the music is excellent it's outrageous that people would listen to this album and be like mad at Bob Dylan can you imagine playing this song and you're like oh you suck we want to hear blowing in the wind I think one of the interesting things about this song is it's about a highway right we already talked about this highway that runs all the way from Duluth all the way through all these music traditional or historically music cities so it started making me wonder what is the greatest song ever about a highway

[69:00]oh my god I did that one so slow it's so embarrassing it's so embarrassing when I'm recording these in front of my kids they look at me like oh I'm but I will say I was on I went to the beach the other day and my kid brought a friend and guess what my daughter told her friend oh you got to listen to the theme of the podcast it's really good so then we listened to the theme and they're like oh that's good and then the friend's like oh I want to listen to the podcast I was like oh no you cannot listen to this podcast you will never be allowed to come over again if you listen to the podcast you probably told her to get back on that highway and drive south and get the hell out of there so here we go you actually don't say that to daughter's friends Russ this is one I think after we give you bumble tips and then you have a kid we will also give you parenting tips you cannot tell a 11 year old friend to get

[70:00]on the highway and drive south out of here I don't think that parenting tip was in the credits at the end of the movie child's play 2 so I'm going to disregard this child's play 2 we got to move on here we go the greatest song ever about highways and just to give you guys some clarification if it's not mentioning the highway I'm not going to put it on the list so route 66 is one of the greatest songs ever and that is a highway but they don't ever mention the word highway so that is off the list how about interstate love song also off the list god damn it all right we're going to start there's got to be a lot of country songs that have songs about highways so we're going to start with the highway men highway man we're johnny cash heavy today and I love it I feel like this was a rough period in terms of country production yeah

[71:03]but this song is so good it's about a bunch of people ad guys who die and anesthetized production I can't get into it still a great song well when I think of anesthetized production or whatever that word was I like to go all the way back to Hank Williams 40 greatest hits and what about lost highway by Hank Williams oh lord this is a lost highway is nothing for you this is a killer song man it's so good deck of cars and a jug of wine that's where we're at it goes way beyond country songs though there's so many different genres with highway songs that are fun how about do you guys remember America and George Martin I don't know if this is also the guy who did Game of Thrones but America and George Martin with Ventura Highway this guy's everywhere man this is a good song I like

[72:04]this one Hank Williams for now but 45 seconds ahead Rob still waiting for the best one just wait Aaron I could easily see you sitting in the side car of your woman's motorcycle cruising up the Pacific Coast Highway to this song no doubt hey stay within the yellow lines there and the license plate says doctor music but sometimes the highway can get a little sunny and we need to go to the sunshine highway by the dropkick Murphy's I was

[73:02]hoping this was gonna be on the list this is the winner yeah I didn't know the dropkick Murphy's made any other songs besides the one of theirs that I know shipping up to Boston right that's the one I know it's unfortunate that Aaron's so out of touch with current music I came to this podcast thinking we would be talking about current music and I've got all these hit songs from like the last 15 years and Aaron's not familiar with them man I tried to bring WAP into this podcast and it didn't even get played yet it's too risky it doesn't have a highway in it Rob the sun's not always shining sometimes you're heading on that highway to hell by ACDC if you want to jump about to 240 remaining the use of silence in this intro that's a great point actually about silence I love that such a rockin

[74:00]tune we've gone through the sunny highways and the hell highways and the country highways so we gotta really get to the leaders in the clubhouse I think that there are two leaders in the clubhouse and the first one is Highway Child by Jimi Hendrix I thought this was Highway Chili oh no okay I'm gonna say that joke again because nobody laughed I thought this was Highway Chili I think there's this spot right off Route 61 where they serve amazing chili and whenever you order it there's this Jimi Hendrix impersonator that comes out and just starts rocking on the acoustic guitar and then the fans get super pissed at him because he's not playing an electric guitar and the last option for you guys is Tom Cochran Life is a Highway it's coming it's coming oh my god

[75:01]is there a song that reminds me more of Junior High than this song I really love this song and I will say it's so good this is the obvious winner I'm gonna delete the rest of this list Russell this is by far the best and I will say this if you ever try to sing this song in karaoke it is way higher than you think it is when you're singing it no way and you will strain your voice doing it and you will be embarrassed because when you cannot hit that chorus people look at you and judge you I would never attempt it do you all agree Life is a Highway is the greatest highway song ever I'm gonna give the dissenting opinion and go with Lost Highway but it's close for me that is the best song Russ and I appreciate you bringing all those songs and there's no way that there's a song that is not on that list that would be better than any of those songs you know what though Rob sometimes rules are meant to be broken and sometimes you need to buzz the tower even if you don't get clearance oh my god

[76:00]and sometimes you need to feel the need the need for speed in honor of the upcoming Top Gun sequel sometimes you need to take a trip on a highway to the danger zone props Russell but the highway's in the song but it's not in the title somebody's going nuts on the synths on this thing well I'll give you a hint it's either Kenny Loggins or whoever Messina is man I did not see that coming what Highway to the Danger Zone because it's not called Highway to the Danger Zone it's just called Danger Zone but no but there's you're taking the highway to the danger zone Rob you can't just get there like on the jet way like off the ship you gotta take the highway that makes no sense they're flying planes I don't think there's a highway in that whole movie yeah man there's the he's on the highway when he's riding his motorcycle next to the runway and he's going he's definitely

[77:00]on the highway there's no way that's a highway that's a frontage road at best but nobody's ever gonna listen to a song called frontage road to the danger zone frontage road to frontage road that's our trailer it's gonna be that 30 second joke all right so let's go back to the list what song were we on I can't remember oh Highway 61 just like Tom Thumb Blues I have to say this song is the banger I love the I love the sound oh it's a banger and apparently they played this so many times the musicians were so tired this is like their 20th take or something so that's why you get kind of this dragging feeling this bass line is straight out of what like up on the roof or on the boardwalk maybe and this is also one of these Bob Dylan songs that has absolutely no chorus it's just

[78:00]him telling a story like the whole time what is the probability that Bob Dylan has actually been to war us he's he's he's wrapped up on speed right in this song and he's like okay another verse another verse another verse and they're like of course he's like I don't have time for chorus it's gonna slow me down I gotta I got 11 minute song at the end of this album I can't make this song any longer I can't add anything and finally Desolation Row and we're gonna listen to this whole song because I think there's a round at the end it's only 11 minutes long they're painting the passports brown I notice he talks about like Albert Einstein in this song like this is the first time on this quest where I felt like I had to start googling stuff during when I was listening to the music you had to google Albert Einstein yeah supposedly came up with this huge like huge theory that makes a lot of sense now have you heard of it listen I'm no Einstein but seems like it's all relative listen

[79:01]guys frontage road to the danger zone can we rename the podcast I love that song I think part of it is like him that's one where I would say Rosie like how do you memorize all those lyrics like apparently he was in a concert once with the Grateful Dead and the Grateful Dead were like hey play this song and he's like oh I can't just play any song of mine like I need to get ready and kind of look at the lyrics and start to memorize them and get use them and he used to write some of the verses on his sleeve so he'd know what's going on but I mean an 11 minute song where there is not a part where he's not talking that whole time it's just wild and I would like to say at the end of that he says that there's people in the Titanic yelling at each other which side are you on kind of like the United States that's Rob's hot take of the week getting deep that is the saddest thing we've said so far we'll see if we're all still here one thing I noticed frontage road to the danger zone one thing I noticed that was a big difference between

[80:00]the beach boys songs and the Beatles songs and this album was that those songs are like two and a half minutes long and the Bob Dylan songs are like ten minutes long six minutes long what do you guys think is the ideal length for a song I'm gonna say four and a half minutes yeah I can say that four and a half to five and a half I don't know what do you think about three minutes how long is hot for teacher the world's most perfect song that's the perfect length I mean honestly though like I did have trouble like I listened to this album and I bet I listened to the first half of it about five times and the second half of it about two because by the time I got to an eleven minute song I was like okay like I get that he's talking about this stuff but no you're right desolation is the one I've listened to the least probably because yeah it's eleven minutes and I'm moving on to try to like not burn this macaroni or whatever yeah absolutely all right well let's get to our final rating system oh by the way that was the only acoustic song on the whole album so

[81:00]that's a smart thing for me to say yeah after he spent most of the album making fun of all the people who he started with is would you say this too high it should be lower on the list or is this a rolling groan it's too high it should be a lower number Matt let's start with you what do you think rolling well toned rolling groan and these are great this rating system I think a lot of hashtags on twitter if you love the rating system call the Beck line 802 277 Beck if you don't like the rating system call the Beck line 802 227 Beck I'm going to go hashtag rolling well toned I think this is perfect as a top 10 album 4 feels like right it's not the best of all time but it's certainly up there not to say the three that are ahead of it are better than it but I think from a standpoint of the top 500

[82:00]of all time this fits in well all right Aaron what do you think rolling well toned rolling boned or rolling grown I gotta just run back on the science on the rating system rolling boned is too low on the list correct it should be higher so two it means the song itself got boned got it which is probably gonna get me canceled and that means it's too low on the list by too low I mean the number is too high so it should be lower on the list aka a lower number aka higher on the list the list is vertically going down aka better I hear you yeah exactly here's what I have to say I have today was a good day I've been listening to a lot of Funkadelic and I'm fully on feeling like Funkadelic should have been number one on all these lists but given only person that has any sort of musical credentials is

[83:01]now using not the rolling well boned or rolling groan scale you're comparing it to some other thing psychedelic we don't even know what you're comparing it to would you say Rosie would you say this song gets up for the down stroke I would say it gets way up for the down stroke yes what I'm saying is I'm leading into my final rating is going to be and I just want to say that my rating is based purely on the other albums that rank ahead of it on the list and I'm going to say rolling boned it should have been higher it's an album that sounds like music it respects music I didn't mention in my Ma Rainey tangent that I do respect this album for being the first one to actually shout out a black musician by name because they were all stealing from black musicians and so I say it's got to be higher on the list it got rolling boned I will say it does feel like when Bob Dylan is doing these he's not copying them it feels like he is doing like he's paying respect to it and kind of

[84:00]putting his own twist on it and I think a big part of that is the lyrics big surprise for me this album gets a like a rolling there's too much harmonica the harmonica bugs me it's a perfect album and then harmonica plays and it feels like my brain is about to explode so worst album ever best song ever is still followed closely by hot for teacher which by the way first two songs of my wedding so it's perfect we would you say this album is rolling well toned rolling boned or rolling grown I think this has been the hardest one to tell whether it's been overrated or underrated or boned or toned I think it's a great album and there's a lot of super interesting songs and I would rate it ahead of revolver and pet sounds

[85:00]but it's not my favorite Bob Dylan album so it's very tough but I'm going to say it's rolling well toned it should be in this top 10 list the one thing I will say is rolling stone also had a readers poll where they asked readers to rank albums and this album ranked 46th on the list it was much lower than all of the other albums that were ranked in the top five and so I think there's some part of this album where it's getting ranked really high because it's this influential album because Dylan has now gone electric completely and I really enjoy the album but I think it's rolling well toned hashtag rolling what are the other ones it's rolling bone rolling grown guys don't act like you don't remember these because they're perfect okay I'm gonna say rolling well so cute you guys it should be in the top 10 but it's not my favorite Bob Dylan album all right that is it for Bob Dylan highway 61 revisited next

[86:00]album we are gonna do is guys I got a hint for you it's another B band it's the Beatles with rubber soul so I will have to find more things to talk about with the Beatles but guess who gets to make a comeback hey guess what it's me I look like your best in the podcast always a George Harrison and nobody ever gets it all right that is it for Beck did it better when you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time but you're just too lazy to look it up online if you want to hear from guys who chat and then they get off track I've got the perfect podcast for you I think those lyrics are just

[87:00]as good as like a Rolling Stone it makes me think what if Rob what if