The Smiths: The Queen is Dead (1986)

[00:00]In 2020, four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums as decided by Rolling Stone magazine.

[00:05]This resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music, excoriated the order, and led us to making this podcast.

[00:10]We are far from experts. We promise to do almost no research.

[00:13]All opinions are our own, unless you disagree.

[00:15]Please sit back and enjoy.

[00:17]Beck did it better.

[00:19]We are all the way up to album 113.

[00:21]113.

[00:22]From 1986.

[00:24]This is The Queen is Dead by The Smiths.

[00:27]And I can tell you at this moment...

[00:30]What?

[00:30]The Queen is Dead?

[00:30]I can tell you at this moment, there has never been a harder album to research than this one.

[00:35]This is almost impossible.

[00:36]You know what's been a real bummer about The Queen dying and what didn't happen, what happened in the movies?

[00:42]What's that?

[00:43]In the movies, the whole royal family died and John Goodman became King Ralph.

[00:48]Yes, King Ralph.

[00:48]You guys remember King Ralph?

[00:49]Yes.

[00:50]I told my son that story as a bedtime story the other night.

[00:53]I'm fully out of ideas for bedtime stories and I just told him the plot of King Ralph as a bedtime story.

[00:59]He liked it.

[00:59]Dude.

[00:59]Dude.

[01:00]When the Queen did die, I posted on Facebook, can't believe the Queen died taking a photo and all of her relatives also got electrocuted.

[01:11]And I got like two likes and I was like, yes, these guys know King Ralph.

[01:16]The only guy in the world who could be the King and Babe Ruth in back-to-back movies, right?

[01:23]I forgot he was Babe Ruth in a movie too.

[01:26]Wow.

[01:27]Listen, one of the things about this...

[01:29]One of the things about this podcast that always amazes me, guys, is that we always seem to find a running joke, okay?

[01:34]And I'm always thinking to myself, what would happen to an episode if we didn't find that?

[01:38]And then we did that Janet Jackson episode two weeks ago and it turns out it wasn't that bad.

[01:44]We still survived.

[01:45]We couldn't quite find it.

[01:46]But this is one of the biggest things in the podcast is finding a bit.

[01:50]So I've written a song, okay?

[01:52]I've heard that there's a song playing on the radio that's about that very topic.

[01:56]This is weird, guys.

[01:58]It's all collapsing on itself.

[01:59]Let's listen to it right now.

[02:01]What will be the running joke tonight?

[02:11]Will it be too dirty with some beeps or is it about a flight?

[02:17]Will we take it too far?

[02:24]Yes.

[02:25]And then we have to edit whole chunks because we...

[02:29]Talk about a sex movie.

[02:31]Imagine she gets in between the mattress and the fox spring.

[02:33]What will be the running joke tonight?

[02:38]Well, if we don't have one, I don't even know if we can survive.

[02:46]Yeah, and we'll say something bizarre.

[02:51]And then we can all make fun.

[02:55]And then I will have to apologize for things I've said before.

[02:59]It's not even a joke here.

[03:04]It's all the truth.

[03:06]So I'm counting on you, Russ.

[03:08]Find a running bit for us.

[03:12]Yes.

[03:14]You need to decide and then I'll take it over the line.

[03:19]If it gets a few cheap yucks.

[03:22]If I start to cuss.

[03:26]So keep this in your mind.

[03:29]We need to find the bit.

[03:32]The repeating bit tonight.

[03:35]The repeating bit.

[03:37]Repeating bit tonight.

[03:39]The repeating bit tonight.

[03:41]Like Aaron loves feet.

[03:44]We could bring back the part.

[03:45]When you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time.

[03:48]That's a good thing.

[03:49]To repeat forever.

[03:51]Look it up online.

[03:54]So it turns out on that one I forgot to do the DJ drop before it.

[03:59]I don't know.

[03:59]I don't know what I said.

[04:00]Whoops.

[04:01]I've got the perfect podcast for you, Jack.

[04:04]Back to the better.

[04:06]There is a bit that'll never get old.

[04:08]There is a bit that'll never get old.

[04:11]I remember when Matt said one of the dumbest things he's ever said in his whole life.

[04:15]And he goes, I don't think that foot stuff is very funny.

[04:17]And I was like, you just don't get it.

[04:20]Everyone thinks it's funny.

[04:21]I think he said it was played.

[04:23]I think he had played out, played out at that point.

[04:25]Well, we all make mistakes and are totally wrong sometimes.

[04:28]Listen.

[04:28]I think that was by.

[04:29]Like the third Jody Mitchell album.

[04:31]I legit think that was 114 episodes ago.

[04:33]Oh, now you guys are going to tell me that when I play blue, that's not very funny either.

[04:37]Because I get a lot of texts about that too.

[04:38]Holy shit.

[04:40]When that remake came out, I got so many.

[04:41]Listen, I've got three guys here who we're going to, you know what?

[04:45]We're going to get a little sad with the Smiths.

[04:47]So we're not going to lie.

[04:48]This is not going to be a fun episode.

[04:49]We're going to be bummed out.

[04:50]And that's the way Morrissey would like it.

[04:53]Honestly, he'd be excited about that.

[04:54]I've got Russell in Minnesota.

[04:57]Russell, how are you doing tonight?

[04:58]Frankly, Rob.

[04:59]Since you ask, you're a flatulent pain in my arse.

[05:02]I don't mean to be rude.

[05:03]Still, I must speak frankly, Mr. Skanky.

[05:06]Matt in Minneapolis.

[05:09]Matt, how are you doing tonight?

[05:10]Good.

[05:11]We're doing band from Manchester, England, right?

[05:15]So I figured this is good.

[05:16]Just some random band.

[05:18]It's got some random songs.

[05:19]You might as well start assigning them to the Minnesota Loons that we either do goals on, right?

[05:26]Oh, yeah.

[05:27]Might as well.

[05:28]Just an English band.

[05:29]Let's just randomly make a goal song out of it.

[05:31]So I'm excited.

[05:32]We'll pick it out later, okay?

[05:34]All right.

[05:34]Queen is dead.

[05:35]Yes.

[05:36]The Vikings score a touchdown.

[05:38]And it's just like.

[05:38]It's really not.

[05:42]No connection to us at all or anything.

[05:44]They're English.

[05:45]So we might as well just.

[05:46]It's so good.

[05:47]Do it.

[05:48]It's like, oh, it's a song about dirt getting thrown on me.

[05:51]Again, there's like four songs in this album about dirt getting thrown on them.

[05:54]I've got Aaron in California, actually.

[05:58]And Aaron is.

[05:59]He's realizing that life is depressing because when his kid turns 18, getting him, buying

[06:04]him extra iCloud storage is actually going to be a pretty sweet gift.

[06:07]He's going to enjoy that quite a bit.

[06:08]So that's your life now.

[06:09]Aaron, how are you doing?

[06:10]Wow.

[06:11]That's that's too real.

[06:12]I mean, if a double becker bus crashes into us to die by your side, it'd be a heavenly

[06:16]way to die.

[06:16]So let's talk about this.

[06:17]Oh, it's just a single level bus.

[06:21]Aaron's like, fuck.

[06:22]I was hoping it was a little bigger.

[06:26]It's true, though, isn't it?

[06:28]Like.

[06:29]Listen, let's get into our voicemail.

[06:32]Oh, we got a voicemail.

[06:34]A Bex or a voicemail?

[06:36]It is a Bex.

[06:38]How do you get it?

[06:39]How do you send a Bex?

[06:40]I forgot.

[06:40]Ah, 218.

[06:42]No, wait.

[06:43]802-277-BECK.

[06:45]That's 802-277-BECK.

[06:47]Don't try to type in every 218 number.

[06:49]Eventually hit maybe somebody with a voice you would recognize.

[06:53]Oh, yeah.

[06:54]One of your dumb shit listeners here.

[06:58]Also part of the show.

[06:59]The complimentary movie door group.

[07:01]A full-bodied red with a fruity finish sounds like Rob after too many figs.

[07:05]The fact that you guys had fucked me like Clubber Lang.

[07:08]And it's greater than Ben Roth.

[07:09]Less burgers, dick in the same episode as pure genius.

[07:12]Keep up the great ish work.

[07:14]Lastly, radio head still sucks.

[07:16]So there we go.

[07:18]That collar.

[07:19]First of all, said ish work.

[07:22]Fruity finish.

[07:23]Something about me eating too many figs, which would never happen because I would never eat a fig.

[07:27]Gross.

[07:29]I did purchase fig.

[07:30]I did purchase fig Newtons at the airport on my flight back from last week.

[07:34]How were they?

[07:36]Russell, I'm serious.

[07:37]You need.

[07:37]Do you need some money?

[07:39]I can loan you some money.

[07:40]They were good.

[07:41]You're buying fig Newtons at the airport.

[07:44]We did an alarm go off and they were like, wow, we've been waiting since 1986 for somebody

[07:48]to buy the fig.

[07:49]They sold a fig Newton.

[07:50]Russell, they're not good.

[07:53]They're not cookies.

[07:54]I don't know if you're aware of this.

[07:55]There was an ad campaign that highlighted.

[07:57]I'm team Russell.

[07:59]On this one, Russell, I'm team Russell.

[08:02]I'll eat some fig Newtons any day.

[08:03]I think they're good.

[08:04]Gross fig.

[08:05]I remember that the listener was proud.

[08:07]We got Ben Roethlisberger and the clubber laying into the same episode, huh?

[08:11]I mean, that's got to make you feel good about yourself, doesn't it?

[08:14]This is what we're accomplishing.

[08:15]That's the thing is that people are always like, oh, you should do this with the podcast

[08:18]and do this and do that.

[08:20]No, I want somebody who talks about Ben listens to us talking about Ben Roethlisberger's gray

[08:24]penis, which by the way, is in the court document illegally.

[08:26]It's a real thing.

[08:27]And clubber laying.

[08:29]And then saying, this is good.

[08:30]I like this enough where they send a message.

[08:32]That's our real audience.

[08:34]Now, if only that guy could like tell somebody about it, but they can't because they're also

[08:38]the audience for this dumb podcast.

[08:39]So they're too embarrassed to admit.

[08:41]They probably don't have any friends.

[08:42]Yeah, exactly.

[08:43]They can't admit that you can't be like, hey, what podcast you listen to?

[08:46]Oh, listen to this one.

[08:47]And immediately we're talking about Ben Roethlisberger's gray dick again.

[08:51]And actually the second episode in a row we recorded tonight where we've talked, started

[08:55]talking with gray dicks.

[08:57]It doesn't shock you that that guy who's.

[08:59]Into this part of the comedy portion of the podcast was also part of the complimentary

[09:03]movie group when he was a kid.

[09:04]Absolutely not.

[09:06]Because when I got that text, I saw his text from the last two years and half of them were

[09:10]just pictures of his feet.

[09:11]So literally this is our super fan.

[09:14]We should be sucking up to complimentary movie guy.

[09:16]He needs to get some more devices and download it on all of his different streaming services.

[09:21]But other than that, I love the guy.

[09:23]I think it's great.

[09:24]The Fig Newton ad campaign.

[09:26]I want to get back to that.

[09:27]First of all, Fig Newtons are disgusting.

[09:28]You're wrong, Aaron.

[09:28]Or do you think?

[09:29]Do you think they're good?

[09:29]I haven't had one for many years.

[09:32]Thank you.

[09:33]End of story.

[09:33]Don't, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[09:34]Don't be nice.

[09:35]That's it.

[09:35]That's done.

[09:36]Their ad campaign where they were like, it's not a cookie.

[09:39]It's a Fig Newton was the most confusing ad campaign to me because I was like, who would

[09:45]want something that's not a cookie?

[09:46]That's crazy, right?

[09:48]Like if you said, oh, I don't want that.

[09:49]It's a cookie.

[09:50]Like everybody wants a cookie over anything else.

[09:53]But I think, I think there's a, there's a chance a kid could make an argument that a

[09:57]Fig Newton is healthier than a cookie.

[09:59]No, it's not.

[09:59]But it's not a cookie.

[10:01]Like a cookie is a pure dessert thing where I think you could argue a Fig Newton might

[10:05]not be considered a dessert.

[10:06]What do you think, Matt?

[10:07]That's the whole argument, right?

[10:09]Like you would say, I'm going to have a cookie tonight, right?

[10:11]And you're like, no, I guess I'm not having my cookie and I'm having my Fig Newton.

[10:14]So, you know, it's kind of like, you know, I have an ice cream or having Sherbert or

[10:20]whatever it is, you know, it's not ice cream.

[10:22]Sherbert.

[10:22]Is that what that ad was?

[10:24]Is that you should eat more Fig Newtons because they're not cookies.

[10:26]Yeah.

[10:27]You don't have to feel bad about it.

[10:29]They're not cookies.

[10:29]So it's not like you're having a sleeve of Oreos or anything.

[10:32]You just want your Fig Newtons.

[10:34]This podcast has made me realize I might've just been a dumb kid.

[10:36]Like that might be, has that ever occurred to you that maybe you were just dumb?

[10:39]All this stuff you didn't understand.

[10:43]Like Rob, if you look around the room and you can't figure out who's the dumbest,

[10:48]it's probably you.

[10:49]It's probably you were the guy who called it and left that last voicemail.

[10:52]Yeah, really?

[10:55]We're making this trash, but you're listening to an idiot.

[10:58]I generally realize.

[10:59]I'm the dumbest one.

[11:00]When I look at my computer and it's 1130 on a Sunday night and I'm starting to

[11:03]record a second podcast.

[11:05]No, this is good.

[11:08]When you listen back to this podcast, you'd be like,

[11:11]I think I was just a dumb middle-aged guy.

[11:12]When you're 80 years old and you're listening, I think I might've been dumb at that time.

[11:17]There's no way that fricking 70 year olds are smarter than we are right now.

[11:20]We're at the peak.

[11:21]We really are.

[11:23]I think we're at the peak.

[11:23]I mean, that's fucking half of Congress.

[11:26]I would hope they're smarter than they're not, but yeah.

[11:28]Let me ask you this, Russell.

[11:29]Do you feel like you're getting smarter?

[11:30]Do you feel like you're getting smarter every day from here on out?

[11:33]Like you're learning from your mistakes?

[11:35]I think I'm smarter than I was three years ago, but it's hard to know three years from

[11:39]now if I'll be smarter or dumber.

[11:41]I think there's a chance I'll be dumber.

[11:42]You know what change I've made is that I've just taken all the mistakes I make and I just

[11:47]go, well, it's too late to change now.

[11:48]And I just keep doing them.

[11:49]Like I'm not changing anything, not trying to get any better at anything.

[11:52]I'm just like, yep, this is good.

[11:54]This is my life now.

[11:54]This is who I am.

[11:55]Like you can't fix it at work.

[11:58]You know what?

[11:59]My bit is at work.

[11:59]I'm the guy who doesn't read emails very well.

[12:01]And like I said, I got rewarded for that.

[12:03]Everybody like explained stuff to me and, and I'm just like, yeah, I'm rolling with

[12:07]it now that my mistakes are now my personality.

[12:09]So like, let's see.

[12:10]That's where I think, like I was going to say, I feel like I'm getting wiser, maybe

[12:13]not so much smarter.

[12:14]Like Rob, I mean, that's a wise move to just do that with your emails.

[12:19]Yeah.

[12:20]But the dumbest thing I do on a weekly basis is stay up extremely late talking to you guys

[12:27]doing this podcast.

[12:29]That is one of the dumbest things I do in my life.

[12:31]Well, it's fucked too, because like when you're younger, if you stay up late, it's like, oh,

[12:35]you're cranky the next day.

[12:36]You're tired.

[12:36]When your guys are age, it's like, oh, this increases your risk for heart issues.

[12:40]It's like, well, Sarah and I, Sarah and I went out for our anniversary.

[12:45]We went out in the town for our anniversary last night and I legit was like getting tired

[12:50]and I'm like, oh geez, I wonder what time it is.

[12:52]It looked down.

[12:52]It was like eight, 17.

[12:53]I'm like, good God, we are fucking old.

[12:56]But you made it out.

[12:58]You were out.

[12:59]You were out.

[12:59]We got messages from you as late as what?

[13:01]Yeah, we were all late.

[13:02]We made a night of it.

[13:03]Went to Russell's pinball bar, which was hop in, played a little paper boy, played a little

[13:10]paper boy.

[13:11]Yeah.

[13:12]They have the arcade game paper boy.

[13:14]It was awesome.

[13:14]Yeah, that's a great one.

[13:15]What else did you play?

[13:16]Not to ban paper boy, which Rob is playing over the top of this.

[13:19]No, no, no.

[13:20]Something about a ditty, right?

[13:21]Ditty, ditty, ditty.

[13:22]If you want to, because damn, I can see the arcade game.

[13:25]Now you got to try to line up my voice with the song.

[13:29]The only reason I say that about paper boy is I used to play paper boy and Nintendo all

[13:34]the time and it was the hardest fucking game.

[13:37]It was so hard that I was watching tick tock the other day and said, have you ever seen

[13:40]the end of paper boy?

[13:41]And I was like, oh, hell yeah, this is what tick tock is for.

[13:43]And I just watched like 30 seconds to the end of the game paper boy because I had never

[13:47]ever seen it before.

[13:48]That paper boy song.

[13:49]That guy was not from Minnesota, was he?

[13:51]But that was a Minnesota hit.

[13:53]Like, I didn't know that song until I lived in Minnesota and everyone, everybody in Minnesota

[13:57]knows that song.

[13:59]I don't know.

[14:00]This is calm.

[14:00]Come on.

[14:01]Little nine deuce.

[14:02]Another fat, fat track.

[14:03]This is a great song.

[14:05]We're going to get, we should pull this up now.

[14:06]We should do a video.

[14:07]We should do a video breakdown.

[14:09]I'm going to keep talking about the video game.

[14:12]I got to be honest.

[14:13]I never owned paper boy on Nintendo.

[14:15]You guys know I'm a judger.

[14:16]I kind of always judge the kids who had paper boy as a Nintendo game.

[14:19]I thought that was a weak game.

[14:20]Like you should be playing tech mobile.

[14:22]There's so many better games than paper boy.

[14:24]I was never a, do you have paper boy at your house for Nintendo?

[14:27]Get the fuck out.

[14:28]I don't know.

[14:28]I don't know.

[14:29]I'm out.

[14:29]Yes.

[14:31]This is a jam.

[14:32]Such a jam.

[14:33]I have never heard this in my life.

[14:45]He's from San Diego, California.

[14:46]Moved later, moved to Oakland.

[14:48]Oh, really?

[14:49]It's from San Diego.

[14:51]Not a lot of rappers from San Diego.

[14:52]Associate acts for R. Kelly, Eazy-E and Rhythm D.

[14:55]Wow.

[14:56]Yeah, this was 1990.

[14:58]Everybody in Minnesota knew that one.

[15:00]And I didn't, I didn't hear it in Iowa.

[15:01]Such a jam.

[15:04]What else did you play, Matt?

[15:06]So you played paper boy?

[15:07]Did you play pinball or what else?

[15:08]I played a little Simpsons because Sarah used to play that with her,

[15:13]with her stepdad back in the day.

[15:16]And I think I, I think I caught a glitch.

[15:18]I was playing with Maggie who has like a jump rope or something.

[15:21]Yeah.

[15:21]Every time I die, I still have four.

[15:23]It still said four up to the point where I literally just walked away from

[15:27]machines.

[15:27]I'm like, I'm sick of playing this.

[15:28]I'm sick of playing this thing.

[15:29]And so just left it.

[15:31]So somebody has probably got the new world record.

[15:33]And then we played some skeeball.

[15:34]Nice little skeeball.

[15:36]It was good.

[15:37]So let me ask you, man, when you play skeeball,

[15:39]are you a throat as hard as you can bounce it off the net guy?

[15:42]I'm a finesse.

[15:43]You're a finesser.

[15:44]I got two 90.

[15:46]That was my score.

[15:47]And everybody was very impressed with me.

[15:48]That's really impressive.

[15:49]I watched my, I watched my kids play skeeball and it was one of the most

[15:53]embarrassing moments of my parenting ever.

[15:55]They were, they couldn't even roll it to get it under the slot.

[15:58]Like they would roll it and it would bounce and hit the net and then come

[16:02]back.

[16:02]And I was like, how can you not even roll a skeeball?

[16:05]You're idiots.

[16:05]So at what point do kids get over the hump?

[16:07]Cause I've been out with my nephews and nephews and they're probably

[16:10]between that five to seven year old range.

[16:12]And at about five to six,

[16:14]that can be a dangerous thing for a kid to throw one of those skee,

[16:19]because it's never going up the ramp.

[16:20]Like you said, Rob, it's like slamming against the plastic.

[16:23]It's flying all over the American funniest home video.

[16:25]It's an American funniest home video.

[16:27]You getting hit in the nuts.

[16:28]With a skee ball is just, it's, it's, it's inevitable.

[16:32]They learn quick.

[16:34]I can tell you this because the, the Lawrence hall of science on the Cal

[16:39]Berkeley campus right now has a whole exhibit devoted to games.

[16:44]And so it's basically a free arcade because remembers there.

[16:47]So they have skee ball and pop a shot and some other things.

[16:51]And the first time we went to do the skee ball, it was exactly that Russell.

[16:54]I was terrified.

[16:55]Like the kid was just flinging the thing all over.

[16:58]That would hurt.

[16:59]And all you have to do is roll it.

[17:01]I was telling my kids, I was like, you just roll it.

[17:02]Just, and they can't do it.

[17:04]They can't, they can't roll it.

[17:05]It ends up bouncing up there.

[17:06]But by the second time we went, he had it down.

[17:09]And now he's like, he's pretty decent at skee ball.

[17:10]He's still only five.

[17:11]They learn fast, but it's scary as shit.

[17:13]The first time Aaron, you say others, give me two other games are at this pop.

[17:16]It actually, actually let us guess.

[17:18]Let us guess if there's pop shot, basketball and skee ball.

[17:20]I'm going to guess if it wasn't California, I would say there's the old rifle shooting a BB game,

[17:26]you know, where it's like the old,

[17:27]like when I went down to,

[17:28]Daytona that was in the arcade and my kids were like, what the fuck is this game?

[17:31]It's like a real gun and you're shooting stuff.

[17:33]I was like, well, yeah.

[17:34]What else do you think was there?

[17:35]Russell?

[17:36]What about a whack-a-mole?

[17:36]A whack-a-mole game?

[17:37]That'd be a good one.

[17:38]No, no, that'd be a good one.

[17:40]Well, there's pinball.

[17:41]There's pinball.

[17:42]There's some mini golf.

[17:43]And then there's another game where you, it's like you launch a ball toward a target on a,

[17:47]on a rail kind of thing.

[17:49]So you pull back out any foosball.

[17:50]There's no foosball.

[17:51]Is there?

[17:51]I don't think so.

[17:52]No, that's not really an arcade.

[17:53]Air hockey.

[17:55]There's an arcade one.

[17:58]You can get blisters from that one.

[18:00]Oh, I used to play.

[18:01]We used to have an air hockey table at my house and I knew just how to hit it and flick

[18:04]it.

[18:05]So it would come about three inches off the table and I just fucking drill my sister's

[18:09]hands all the time.

[18:10]Like she would be terrified to play against me because I would just chip it into her hands.

[18:13]At the time I thought it was the funniest thing in the world.

[18:15]And now I realized when my parents were always mad.

[18:17]Did you guys ever do the thing at the pop a shot where you would sneak in between the

[18:21]machines and then you would just hit and you'd tap the bottom of the net with your hand.

[18:24]So it showed like that.

[18:25]You got like 400 baskets in a minute.

[18:28]A half or whatever.

[18:29]I did not know you could do that.

[18:30]Oh, just, just so many tickets.

[18:32]I think I learned that from one of the guys who, uh, complimentary movie.

[18:36]You get like a million tickets.

[18:42]You go out there and they're like, Oh, it's time.

[18:44]Wow.

[18:44]You can pick from any of these erasers.

[18:46]All right, let's get into rolling.

[18:51]Go in Russell.

[18:53]Roll and go.

[18:53]How's it going with you?

[18:54]Rolling going.

[18:55]Things are going good.

[18:56]I, uh, I know I was in Nashville probably about a month ago.

[18:58]A month ago for work, I told you about some of my Nashville escapades, specifically finding

[19:03]all of the Euro stands, but when I was, when I was down and I would actually had to go

[19:08]to Nashville again for another work trip.

[19:10]So I've been in music city for about 10 days over a month.

[19:13]So I've almost hit my limit of how much time one person can spend in Nashville.

[19:17]But, but do you guys, I was going to ask you, I've got really into one specific song.

[19:23]Do you guys ever get into like one song and you listen to it over and over for weeks upon

[19:27]weeks?

[19:27]Absolutely.

[19:28]So the time, so the song that I got really into over the last couple, probably two months

[19:33]now is true, but, or by George straight, I can't stop listening to it.

[19:37]I listened to it over and over Rob, maybe you could pull it up this one, kind of a country

[19:45]ballad country hit here coming up course is coming up here.

[19:51]If you watch this video, it's exactly what Russell looks like right now.

[19:55]Yes.

[19:58]So I've just gotten really into this song troubadour.

[20:03]And so I, when I was in Nashville, I've probably requested this at about 10 bars over the last

[20:09]month.

[20:09]Are we going to do Russell's Venmo?

[20:11]Please.

[20:11]We are doing Russell's Venmo.

[20:14]But so all these bars and they kept not knowing troubadour.

[20:20]I'm like, how can you not know?

[20:21]Like if you're an acoustic guitar player in Nashville, you've got to be able to play troubadour.

[20:26]You have to, don't you?

[20:28]I've, I've, I've got a friend, Mike for me, Dinah, who has every single CD.

[20:32]There's like 38 CDs by George.

[20:34]He's still buying CDs just to have the collection.

[20:36]So I've heard George straight my whole life.

[20:39]And I've, I've never heard this song before by, by George straight.

[20:42]Yeah.

[20:43]Everyone has to check it out.

[20:44]So do you, do you guys want to play the game of checkout?

[20:47]Russell's Venmo in Nashville or not?

[20:49]Yeah, let's do it.

[20:50]But here let's look, what, what Rosie, what is your song you listen to right now?

[20:54]Uh, well right now, yeah, right now I've been listening to it.

[20:58]I'm listening to the creator has a master plan by Pharaoh Sanders.

[21:00]We're going to go.

[21:02]Oh my God.

[21:02]Okay.

[21:02]So first of all, just the, this is, it's long.

[21:05]The song is 32 minutes long.

[21:08]It's a whole video breakdown.

[21:11]Here we go.

[21:11]It's not going to be a video for it.

[21:13]Aaron just gave us a 32 minute song that he's addicted to.

[21:21]Yeah.

[21:21]But you got to, I mean, actually, if you hear the opening notes, then you can really hear

[21:24]Pharaoh's real sound.

[21:26]Let's go to the open notes, opening notes.

[21:28]I mean, this is the greatest tenor sound.

[21:32]It sounds like the Jessica Rabbit singing.

[21:34]I do like the sound.

[21:35]You guys know I love Pharaoh Sanders.

[21:41]Okay.

[21:42]I don't want to talk about what song is stuck in my head because I feel so stupid after

[21:46]Aaron says Pharaoh Sanders, the creator has a master plan.

[21:48]Own it.

[21:49]I think I'm dumb guys.

[21:51]I do not.

[21:52]No, you're not.

[21:52]No.

[21:53]I'm into Troubadour.

[21:53]Yeah, but that's like a song nobody's ever heard of apparently.

[21:57]Like that's, you guys are like picking this cool stuff.

[22:00]Rob, what's your, what's your song you're listening to all the time now?

[22:04]Oh, well, it's never changed.

[22:06]I heard this the other day and I had to listen to the whole thing again.

[22:11]I mean, there's just one jam up there.

[22:15]Oh yeah, it's a great bass line.

[22:17]And it's D-Lite, Grooves in the Heart, who's only mentioned the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

[22:20]twice.

[22:21]I checked for the whole thing.

[22:22]I mean, if, if, if you don't have like early nineties NBA all-stars coming out to the,

[22:27]all-star game for this song, I mean, get out of here, right?

[22:30]This is perfect.

[22:30]I mean, this is, I think, a perfect song.

[22:35]And from the Chicago Bulls.

[22:38]I do want to point out this song is a 10th of the length of Aaron's song that he picked.

[22:44]It's a 10th long.

[22:46]Hey, that sounds like a familiar, familiar relationship between you guys too, isn't it,

[22:50]Rob?

[22:50]A 10th is long.

[22:51]I guess that's it.

[22:53]I have a smaller penis and I'm dumber than Aaron.

[22:56]I made my family listen to it first.

[22:57]I made my family listen to it first.

[22:57]I was listening to Aaron Sanders all day yesterday.

[22:58]It wasn't a popular choice, but it's some of it's difficult music to hear.

[23:01]Do you think that's why I make fun of Aaron so much is because I know he's better than

[23:05]me?

[23:05]I don't think that's really true.

[23:07]I don't think that's, what's Matt's current obsession?

[23:10]Matt, what's your current song obsession?

[23:12]Uh, I always have three or four, but the one I've listened to a lot is Southern Cross

[23:17]by Crosby, Stills, and Nash.

[23:18]This is some yacht rock it looks like to me.

[23:24]Oh, you're going to get driving a yacht.

[23:27]Slow bone.

[23:28]Yeah.

[23:29]Did not think Crosby, Stills, and Nash had a yacht video.

[23:32]Oh, nice harmonies though.

[23:37]I like that.

[23:38]This is a banger of a chorus though.

[23:39]Matt, you're right.

[23:40]Yeah.

[23:41]Uh, while it's getting there, my old soul's warning by the killers.

[23:47]Here it comes.

[23:48]Here it goes.

[23:49]Here it goes.

[23:50]Think about how many times I've had.

[23:55]Oh, they're wailing.

[23:56]Ooh, man.

[23:57]Yeah.

[23:57]You got the video where they're in the dark.

[24:01]It's kind of, it feels a little bit like a Bohemian Rhapsody there a little bit.

[24:04]This is a banger, man.

[24:06]That is a sailboat.

[24:08]Hold on right here.

[24:09]Hold on.

[24:09]Get ready.

[24:10]It gets better.

[24:10]Turn it up, Rob.

[24:12]Just driving around listening to this song.

[24:19]Matt, you make me want to listen to that rock.

[24:23]Roman girl.

[24:24]We should have some of those dumb shit.

[24:27]Uh, Bexters, they should text in or Bex in or call us and let us know what song they're

[24:32]listening to over and over.

[24:33]I'd love to hear it.

[24:34]Well, I told you guys that when I, when I have nothing to listen to, I put on Steve

[24:39]Wynwood radio on Apple.

[24:41]Okay.

[24:42]And it's just all songs I get.

[24:43]And that song comes on like fourth every time.

[24:45]And I'm like, God, this is a great song.

[24:47]So that's the one I've been hammering lately.

[24:50]Listen, what song are you currently listening to?

[24:52]What is your obsession?

[24:53]It's 802-277-BEC.

[24:55]Text it in.

[24:56]Let us know.

[24:57]Oh, you can do it.

[24:57]Right now, just sitting there.

[24:58]What do you think?

[24:58]And plus, or you can make fun of Aaron too.

[25:01]That's something that cool, smart people are doing.

[25:02]Actually, it's me and Albert Einstern.

[25:05]All right, Russell, let's hear these receipts now.

[25:11]So I made some requests, I think earlier and probably used a little bit of cash, but I

[25:15]actually was at this bar.

[25:15]I was at Tootsie's Orchid Lounge.

[25:17]It's one of the famous, one of the famous bars right in Nashville was at the upper level

[25:22]listening to a band.

[25:23]And I ended up getting a table kind of right up next to the stage.

[25:26]You got a table?

[25:27]Oh, the best spots.

[25:28]I watched someone leave and I was like, I zeroed in like, man, I could see you being

[25:33]good at this.

[25:33]When you see a table open up at a prime spot, there's just a way to maneuver to get to that

[25:38]and take down.

[25:39]Oh, you better believe it.

[25:40]Because it makes the whole night so much more fun, doesn't it?

[25:42]Can I, can I tell you, Russell, when we were in Ireland, we did, uh, we found a spot at

[25:46]the bar right in front of the Irish band.

[25:48]It was like, uh, these people would just show up right and play their instruments, like

[25:51]they're classical Irish instruments and somebody moved and we got a spot literally like, you

[25:57]know, I could touch them, I could reach out and touch them.

[25:59]And you know what I did that night, Russell, the ultimate baller move that when the band

[26:04]went to get drinks, I bought them for him.

[26:06]Nice.

[26:06]So I had this whole Irish band say thank you to me all night.

[26:10]And I was like, God damn, I should, I should be living in a pub, right?

[26:14]My dumb ass with my small dick.

[26:15]Like that's what I should be doing with my life.

[26:17]Small gray dick.

[26:19]We talked about how, how Frank Sinatra got known for being five pounds of dick or whatever

[26:25]it was, Rob.

[26:26]Like Rob is just.

[26:27]A couple weeks ago.

[26:27]Reinforcing his, his place in the, uh, uh, the, the pantheon here, right?

[26:33]Yeah.

[26:33]It's too late now.

[26:34]It's too late now.

[26:35]I can't reverse course.

[26:36]Mount Dickmore or Mount Dickless.

[26:37]Mount, Mount Dickless.

[26:46]Mount Dickless that I've just frowdy.

[26:48]Aaron's on Mount Dickmore next door.

[26:52]Why did I even make this monument?

[26:55]He's just like looking down from his castle.

[26:56]You guys just frowdy.

[26:57]I figured out the shirt.

[26:58]That's the shirt right there.

[26:59]You got a Rosie.

[27:00]Mount Dickmore.

[27:02]Rob down here.

[27:03]Mount Dickless.

[27:04]Hey, get a mouse pad of that.

[27:09]So before, actually, before I went to Tootsie's, I went to this place called the Bourbon Street

[27:15]Blues and Boogie Bar where they've got blues music, rock music.

[27:18]It's a great, I've probably been to this bar five times in a month now.

[27:22]Is that on the strip or is that Printer's Alley?

[27:25]Printer's Alley.

[27:26]So it's kind of off the strip.

[27:27]probably three four blocks it's much quieter it's great right yeah so one of the coolest things i've

[27:34]ever seen you guys will get a kick out of this i didn't want to forget to tell you about it they

[27:37]did a thing essentially called amateur night where you've got all these musicians come in let's say

[27:41]there's about 30 of them it's on a monday night and they put everyone's name in a hat and they

[27:46]draw six names out of a hat and those six musicians come up on the stage and they've just got to talk

[27:51]to each other for about 30 seconds to be like what do you guys want to do and they just start jamming

[27:56]so like six musicians who don't know each other just come up and start killing it on stage

[28:01]and they'll play for like two or three songs and then the mc depending on how well they do

[28:06]will come up and kind of usher them off and then they'll pick six new names out of the hat

[28:10]it was amazing it was so much fun so who calls out the songs did i miss that who chooses what

[28:15]they play they've just got to collaborate up on stage and decide like what the singer can do and

[28:21]what the what the band members can do and they just come up with it and they go that sounds exciting

[28:26]russell's in the crowd with his saxophone he's like please pick me

[28:30]what's the best song you heard in that in that format actually it uh the some of the bands got

[28:39]we're playing some funk music and flashlight was the song that really blew me away oh nice

[28:44]it's in parliament

[28:46]flashlight for sale that's so good i thought they were playing like

[28:55]blues boogie wingham and stuff that'd be easier to play you had all these different artists so at

[28:59]some point like someone would just kind of take control up there and say like this is the direction

[29:03]we're going and then everyone else would just have to fall in so you'd have like a saxophone player

[29:08]standing next to a bass player and they've never met before and two guitar players a keyboard player

[29:13]two lead singers and they just have to make it happen and it was one of the best music shows

[29:17]i've ever seen in my life it's all fun that is super cool so eventually i make it to tootsie's

[29:23]tootsie's orchid lounge the first time i went to the orchid lounge and i was like oh my god i'm gonna

[29:24]go to the orchid lounge the famous country bar and i'm up i've got my great table up front

[29:28]now i'm getting some uh you know songs and probably using a little cash but at some point

[29:32]we've got to go to the venmo so this is another edition of russ's venmo receipts

[29:37]oh i love it oh wait can i what's what's a good song to play

[29:41]russell's venmo receipts

[29:45]so generally to get a song played in nashville you need to pay 20 bucks but i decided

[29:53]if i start venmoing 40 i'm gonna get their attention and they're immediately gonna have

[29:58]to play it they can't put me on pause for 40 minutes my song's gotta come first right

[30:03]oh it's the smartest thing i've ever heard russell you're you're using capitalism

[30:08]so the free market one was at 1207 in the am oh it was i and here's my new move i give them

[30:17]options because if they don't know one they're just gonna skip it so you got to give them options

[30:22]so i gave them troubadour which i wanted to hear i gave them copperhead road by steve earl

[30:27]oh there you go and i gave them jolene by dolly parton so i gave them three of those

[30:32]hits that they could choose from and what they choose they ended up playing jolene and they

[30:37]killed it yeah of course they're gonna they're gonna pick jolene if you give that choice

[30:41]so that was at 1205 or so about 40 minutes later 1244 in the am at this point small hours

[30:51]at this point my request for forty dollars was two of the guitar player's choice i just wanted

[30:58]the guitar player to pick two songs that he could kill and just let him pick what the fuck are you

[31:05]doing russell you're going to let them choose that's what they're doing for free my dude what

[31:09]like what's going on actually so it was kind of cool because the guitar you know sometimes when

[31:13]you're watching the band and you're like the guitar player is the star here right like that's

[31:16]the one who's carrying everyone i think the guitar player was just killing it and i don't quite

[31:20]remember what two songs he played but the cool thing about it is he pivoted they were playing

[31:25]almost all country but when he says well if it's my choice we're going to play rock so he played

[31:29]like two alternative rock songs from the 90s and it just like completely changed the tone of what

[31:35]they were doing up there oh russell you're brilliant you found a calling so at this point

[31:41]i'm starting to realize i can't keep doing forty dollars a minute you're right or eventually it's

[31:45]going to catch up to me so slightly later at 120 in the am venmo received a call from a guitar player

[31:50]seat for twenty dollars i asked for whole celebrity skin smashing pumpkins or queen

[31:58]holes no way they didn't do queen they didn't do queen did they this is which was kind of a bummer

[32:05]they did do queen they did fat bottom girls i was really they had a female lead singer and another

[32:10]lead singer and i thought the female singer because she was doing some rock i thought she could maybe

[32:15]do the whole song and she went i could see her talking to the other singer and he said let's do

[32:19]queen and they did

[32:20]fat bottom girls which yeah was fun people had fun but that's not really what i was hoping for

[32:25]yeah no i'd be open to the whole too all right last receipt of the night that venmo receipt

[32:32]time 124 in the am this looks like it happened about four minutes after my other one

[32:38]final request for twenty dollars the band is guns and roses i requested guns and roses they

[32:46]played sweet child of mine they killed it it was a great way to end the night

[32:49]yes

[32:50]what if they would have played like some shitty like slow song

[32:57]what no patience is really good it's slow though what's the one where he turns into a dolphin if

[33:06]they use your illusion that's what i that's the one he's like this is the one where he turns into

[33:10]a dolphin we're like what so essentially it was 120 via via venmo to this band when i probably

[33:19]could have just listened to music for for free but i wanted to hear what i wanted to hear and i wanted

[33:23]to hear what they wanted to play and it was a great time you're supporting the arts russell you're a

[33:27]true hero yeah it's probably more it's probably more money than we've contributed to that charity

[33:32]and found us right you're a patron of the arts yeah just like my license plate how's it going

[33:39]with you all right good i still haven't figured out it's been a couple weeks what the flashlights

[33:45]to see menzies is

[33:46]flashlights

[33:49]i gotta know what that is i know i did too i gotta figure it out

[33:53]no i've been reading this i've got like three books going which is just how my brain works

[34:00]um but so first book is i'm halfway through um dave grohl's book his biography pretty darn good

[34:10]it's kind of turning into just a commercial for dave grohl which is interesting and we don't have

[34:15]enough of those out there pretty awesome guy though yeah pretty good

[34:19]pretty good guy pretty good guy you never hear anything about the his size though there must

[34:23]not be a lot out there right rob like typically we've heard about everyone else we've heard about

[34:28]rob and sinatra we haven't heard any any rumors on the the size of dave grohl's penis i have not

[34:34]heard you know my ears to the ground at all times and i haven't heard that thing hit the

[34:39]ground yet so it can't be that bad it is not a liam neeson situation i've got another book

[34:45]i forget what it's called it's about habits or something it's like the number one book in the

[34:49]new york times for a while it's one of those not self-help but one of those kind of non-fiction

[34:55]books and how to do things and so i've got that reading that but then uh i'm trying to get through

[35:00]and finish uh i don't think we've talked about this but chuck closterman do you guys ever read

[35:05]any of chuck closterman but i love chuck closterman's books um he's got a book called

[35:10]the 90s which essentially starts on january 1 of 1990 is going through it and it is

[35:19]have you guys i've heard of this book at all i've heard of i've heard about i've heard people

[35:23]really like it i you guys will absolutely love it if you read it because it's essentially everything

[35:28]that we went through growing up in the 90s you know we're the first people to

[35:32]not you know not have cell phones but then get internet and then have cell phones and all through

[35:37]that stuff and stuff but you know one of the one things he's talking about is how cds have ruined

[35:43]albums and all these musicians who are before cds came along

[35:49]don't like cds at all because all of a sudden now instead of having to like cram everything

[35:54]into like 45 minutes or so or less you know you can have 75 minutes on a cd and it completely

[36:00]changed the way things are at i thought it was pretty apropos for what we're doing here

[36:05]and a lot of the things that we talk about but it was just interesting to go through so

[36:09]do you guys think cds ruined albums because i after reading this i absolutely think they do i

[36:17]think you used to have eight to ten songs and they're pretty tight and if they weren't eight

[36:22]to ten there was a couple long ones like rosie's just had his 32 minute song that was side a

[36:26]right you know what i mean that kind of a thing but all of a sudden when you get you can do double

[36:33]discs and you're throwing all sorts of random songs and things and secret songs and all that

[36:37]on the back of you know i am very nostalgic for the old way of doing albums after kind of reading

[36:44]through all this stuff it's funny you mentioned about cds because i've had a lot of cds that i've

[36:47]had similar conversations with my brother and some others about streaming because now you have

[36:52]like the game put out a album that had 30 songs on it you got people like dj khaled's most recent i

[36:59]think had like 30 songs and like stuff that could be 10 or 12 or less so i hadn't thought of it in

[37:05]the context of cds because streaming has made it so much worse yeah drake came out i you know

[37:10]whatever drake album did we do a drake out we did a drake yeah you know that one was like 17 songs

[37:16]right from like two to three years ago and i think it's a really good album i think it's a really good

[37:17]one 2004 it's just too long but here's the thing right if you went and you bought a cd now let's

[37:22]remind ourselves cds were expensive as hell that's part of what we're forgetting right cds were like

[37:27]25 bucks and they came in this huge thing we were like wow this is gonna be so big and then it comes

[37:31]out it's like tiny if you bought a cd and it was 30 minutes wouldn't you feel ripped off by that

[37:36]but that's kind of goes to the record so the other part of this which was going to get to

[37:42]goes to the record side of things is that people are making the same amount of money they made on

[37:47]vinyl as they did on cds because of the production you know that's what the record companies are

[37:52]saying about it all and so like that didn't help the artists at all right it's just helping the

[37:58]record companies and the people that are putting them out i was reading in the intro to the booze

[38:02]and vinyl book actually it says in 2020 vinyl sales surpassed cds for the first time since the 1980s

[38:08]they've gone from a relic to relevant yeah i'm gonna take this opportunity public service

[38:15]announcement don't buy vinyl from

[38:17]because it's just cheap plastic they're trying to you know go buy an actual album it's so much

[38:23]better than the cheap plastic stuff so they put outside at what store i didn't

[38:27]for you fancy cowboy hat

[38:30]there's different quality vinyl i didn't know that i thought it was all just the same stuff

[38:36]what's the is it just heavier or what maybe the but like you know i got uh what do i got

[38:42]listen you know me if it's not a real zipper on an album and i can't unzip it and see what's

[38:46]underneath i don't need it

[38:47]it's both the quality of the vinyl and the quality of the of the master recording so some stuff that

[38:52]gets mass produced they take it from a digital recording and then put it onto vinyl and if it

[38:57]didn't come from an analog master then you're just like it's trash but also just like the you know

[39:02]the sleeve it comes in like the ones that target are literally just two pieces of paper put together

[39:07]and they slide the album in there whereas you get like the actual album right you've got the

[39:11]it opens up and you've got the liner notes and all that stuff which is just so much better and i gotta

[39:17]it's so much better for the artist but i don't have no idea if it is it is amazing isn't it how

[39:22]much music quality is affected by like the size of the file i i try to for this podcast get flack

[39:29]files if i can like lossless files that's what i'm running through our little system here that we have

[39:33]and it doesn't appear on the podcast because i have to mix it down so it's not a giant file that

[39:39]i but when i'm listening to it on this as a lossless it sounds so much better than when i'm

[39:43]like streaming it through amazon i don't like i think i'm telling you guys it's time to invest

[39:47]in a network drive with a backup and you just download everything as high quality as you can

[39:52]and listen to it you know what i mean you can't rely on streaming services it's all gonna go away

[39:55]no it's it's somebody said why do you have this you can just you can subscribe and i was like i

[40:00]don't want to i want to just have everything i want all the time which is kind of what's led to

[40:04]where i am in my life right now where i just do it whatever i want at all times and just worry

[40:09]about it later so yeah so i killed that live a little bit i don't know i don't know i don't know

[40:13]yeah yeah no so i don't know a couple things buy real vinyl not vinyl is good not from

[40:22]they are they gonna shut us down i don't think so everybody i think everybody gets that

[40:27]well good well rosie rolling going how's it going with you my friend it's going good i do so i gave

[40:33]away a bit of my rolling going when you asked me what i've been listening to because i do listen

[40:37]to ferris sanders a lot i listen to him if i want to celebrate something i listen to him if i want

[40:43]to think about something but uh he passed away yesterday and i'm not going to turn this into a

[40:48]sad podcast oh this is the episode to do it rosie this is he was he was he was 81 81 years old uh

[40:55]he got his start playing with john coltrane met john coltrane i think in san francisco uh and he

[41:01]got started in in oakland uh and then he he played with coltrane near the end of coltrane's life and

[41:06]career john coltrane near the end of john's life and career and uh he's the other horn you can hear

[41:12]on the live love supreme live in seattle uh record and then went on to play a lot with alice coltrane

[41:19]and uh and then his solo albums um uh sort of spearheaded this this spiritual jazz movement so

[41:26]if you read his song titles his album titles they always have to do with love and unity

[41:31]and peace and that's the kind of guy he was but he was a ferocious player of the tenor sax

[41:38]he was 81 passed away yesterday uh his most recent album uh matt i think you listened to a little bit

[41:44]the one with floating points and the london symphony orchestra yeah pretty fantastic to

[41:49]listen to uh and i think it's i mean whether this actually matters or not he died the day after john

[41:56]coltrane's birthday and he and john were you know very closely entwined in life so you know that

[42:01]might mean something it might not but um i i listen to pharaoh a lot and so all day yesterday i listened

[42:06]to pharaoh sanders he does have some great songs and i think he's a great singer and i think he's a

[42:08]that can be harsh on the ears so like sometimes we walk in the house and i don't be like what the

[42:13]hell is this but go ahead matt yeah the second line of his wikipedia page says known for his

[42:18]overblowing harmonic and multifonic techniques on the saxophone so yeah yeah that's exactly right

[42:25]yeah he came up with sounds that no one would ever hear before me sometimes yeah especially

[42:29]uh like on john coltrane's ascension recording he's making sounds that sound like

[42:34]from another dimension and he but he played he can play really sweetly

[42:38]too so he was just i i think one of the great one of the great musicians i saw so many great

[42:44]tributes to him on on the internet yesterday uh someone called him the last of the greats

[42:49]and um yeah so so that's that's the first thing little rock arkansas he's from little rock yeah

[42:55]little rock arkansas and then became one of the greatest jazz players of all time now do you guys

[43:00]ever think about like when you see somebody who's 81 who dies and obviously this is the depressing

[43:03]episode for everybody because we're listening to the smiths and you just think to yourself well i'm

[43:07]41 right so i can get another 40 years till i live as long as pharaoh sanders what am i gonna do with

[43:13]all that time like what is do i am i just gonna sit every sunday and watch football and then go

[43:17]to work and then do this like is this just the rest of my life because i'd prefer not to waste

[43:24]like 20 years of my 40 doing this like maybe five yeah no pharaoh was yeah pharaoh was it was

[43:32]playing right up to the end of his life so i'm also i'm very excited because i i am just recovering

[43:37]from covid and i'm gonna get real wild with my newfound immunity there are two very small

[43:43]record stores in oakland that i never went to during covid but now i've got i've got a couple

[43:47]of weeks where i'm pretty sure i'm immune so i'm gonna go see if i can find any pharaoh sanders

[43:51]records at the groove yard awesome or contact records in close quarters what if you go to the

[43:56]small record stores and they're literally just selling small records like it's a giant store

[44:00]but all the records are tiny you're like i did not understand with people with really small hands

[44:05]like looking through them

[44:07]like cabbage yeah rosie do you know where he went to uh college i don't i don't know where he went

[44:14]to college oakland city college i know he got his i know he got his start in oakland in fact i read

[44:18]an anecdote uh that he would come back to oakland in even in the 90s and just show up at clubs and

[44:23]they studied art and music that'd be so fun yeah i know he got started in oakland aaron what so

[44:29]other than pharaoh sanders because you know when we when we go to a record store you got to run

[44:33]some sort of plays you got to run a system what what what's your system what are you

[44:37]looking for well i'll i'll go in and look for pharaoh sanders and they'll be like no he just

[44:42]died of course there's no pharaoh sanders records well maybe there's an alice coltrane record and

[44:46]they're like no of course like pharaoh sanders just died they bought up all the alice coltrane

[44:49]records uh sounds fun so far yeah i mean i the the one i'm planning to go to well there are two so

[44:55]the one i'm planning to go to specializes in jazz uh i'm kind of interested in coleman hawkins and

[45:00]he's more of an earlier earlier guy than pharaoh so maybe i'll see if there's any coleman hawkins

[45:06]um the last time i went into this other one i went specifically to pick up an art blakey record

[45:12]that they had posted on instagram and then that record is called behind his delight it's a great

[45:16]it has a moon river on it uh but that was they were selling for 150 dollars so i had to like

[45:21]moonwalk back out of there like i was like hey i was looking for that record right there and he's

[45:25]like yep it's a great copy and i looked at it it was 150 and i was like um thanks uh i gotta go

[45:30]yeah is that one that you have to take the tag off if you bring that home and leave it on the

[45:34]kitchen table is that one like you have to take the tag off if you bring that home and leave it on the

[45:36]yeah that's one that like maybe when my son is in his teens i'll spend that much money on a record

[45:41]but now with a five-year-old in the house we were down in uh stillwater and we went into a record

[45:47]store and this lady is more of a vintage store lady said she had all these band t-shirts and i

[45:52]think a lot of them for like reprints and stuff but she had an original pressing of oasis wonderwall

[45:58]um it was still in the package and everything and she's selling it for like 200 bucks and i'm like

[46:04]really 200 bucks that's a lot of money and i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god

[46:06]that's a lot for a record right yeah did you play it like what have you scratched yes i mean

[46:10]that's kind of why i didn't buy it because it's like well i want to play it so i'll just go buy

[46:15]a 40 you know used old vintage copy or whatever you know so yeah you should buy that marquee

[46:21]moon i heard it's jazz inspired yes damn it i don't agree have you heard the last song

[46:28]cordon spark yeah yeah

[46:30]so that's what that's it

[46:36]that's it for me how's it rolling going with rob listen i went to the comedy seller first of all i

[46:41]want to say aaron i also have covet this weekend uh but i did i got i tested myself twice that

[46:46]means i have double covet it's actually worse i went to the doctor does it make me a bad friend

[46:51]when you guys texted texted and said you had it i didn't show any like care like i wasn't like oh

[46:56]are you i just ignored it what are you gonna do about it no i mean mostly it was just like

[47:00]in case i can't talk i'll let you guys know but you can't do anything i was shocked when i found

[47:05]out it was real i'd been listening to aaron this whole time and i was like huh this covet is a real

[47:10]thing what's going on scandemic i went to the doctor though and took off my pants and he said

[47:15]well at least you don't have long covet so we went to the comedy seller the other day jenny and i

[47:21]and some friends as we were wanting to do and as as it was going there was a group of it was very

[47:28]funny because they were a super conservative like frat guy but they were chatting the whole time

[47:32]chat chat chat chat chat chat chat chat chat these and they are

[47:35]monstrous guys i mean they're like six four they're huge they're just the most giant guys

[47:40]and i was like you know i'm not gonna say anything i'm just gonna sit there because i was right next

[47:45]to him and i was like i'm just gonna sit here i don't want to cause anything and they're not

[47:49]like it's not that bad but it was distracting from the act right bedazzled pant pockets or

[47:53]back no it's like it's like fancy like from martha's vineyard like they would know a good

[47:59]place to eat martha's vineyard for example like it's this kind of group sweater with the arms

[48:03]tied across the chest pretty much yeah pretty much and i was like oh my god i'm not gonna say anything

[48:04]yeah pretty much and so of course this problem is immediately solved when jenny

[48:08]leans across me oh no and goes

[48:11]this doesn't sound familiar at all and

[48:16]and says you can't talk during the show it's distracting right so i do the very brave male

[48:25]thing of looking straight forward do not acknowledge that this happened whatsoever

[48:29]meanwhile jenny is in front of me like like look at like eye contact with him right

[48:34]so they they say oh okay and they quiet down a little bit or whatever when we get up to leave

[48:40]the guy that she shushed gets up oh no and he has scars on his face fresh he has stitches here here

[48:48]here it was obvious that the night before he had gone out and had gotten hit in the face with a

[48:53]with like a beer mug it was there was it was the only thing his face looked like i mean he had just

[49:00]gotten hit with a glass last night like a mug it was it looked terrible and then he got up and he

[49:04]this is the guy that jenny shushed she looked at a guy and shushed and he looked over and his face

[49:09]was so scarred i was like what the fuck jenny why would you shush the one guy that she's shushed is

[49:15]the guy who obviously loves to get in bar fights get him while he's down he's probably recovering

[49:19]from the night clearly you're the you're the guy who can't take a bottle of the fate i mean

[49:24]got a bottle of face like she found the weak one all right no no you guys are wrong about this

[49:29]this guy got hit with a fucking bottle the night before and still went out the next night yeah

[49:34]but you're like the you're like the american champ raw lifter like i've thought about this

[49:39]rap like if you were to play football right now wouldn't you just dominate for how strong you are

[49:43]if we don't have to do anything over five seconds long yeah could anybody yeah but could anybody

[49:48]push you around right now i don't think anybody could you are you're a lot stronger than i think

[49:53]you're a lot stronger than you you know what would actually hurt though you know it doesn't

[49:56]matter how much you can squat is if somebody hits you in the face with a fucking bottle

[49:59]which this guy learned the night before that he has to do it before somebody hits him with a bottle

[50:04]i'm lucky he didn't just do preemptive strike on my face with a bottle kobra kai strikes first right

[50:09]oh my god and of course that's who jenny fucking shot i mean you would you wouldn't believe it if

[50:14]you saw this guy i mean literally it's the only injury you could have had fresh stitches that's

[50:18]the move though you got to go with the toughest the biggest badass in the group and you got to

[50:22]challenge them because if they back down they all back down you if you pick on the pick on one of

[50:27]the weaker ones then they're going to gang up on you so i think you got you got to aim for the

[50:34]who agrees with you jenny because she did that and then slinked away back behind me so i was

[50:38]sitting there and they all turned to look at me god damn i almost got my ass kicked at the comedy

[50:43]club aaron matt what would your be your style so i'm again i'm a walker not a talker i used to be

[50:49]a talker right 10 years ago i would have certainly said something and now i've just passed it i just

[50:54]i don't care i don't want to get involved in that stuff i don't want that to ruin my night

[50:58]what's your guy's style would you ever sit over and shush someone or not yeah life is too short

[51:03]it'll be just fine odds are there's a jenny in the crowd who's going to do it anyways and let them

[51:08]let them yeah handle it from there right i wouldn't be saying anything they can be the bad

[51:13]guy and you know shush them and all that we can just sit and have fine yeah no i would not i would

[51:19]not be getting involved you know the main reason i didn't do anything too is that there was like

[51:23]eight of them and i was like when you get a college age guys going out together they're

[51:27]looking for trouble like they're looking for any excuse at least one of them is yeah yeah and

[51:32]the rest of them might have to back that one up oh my god i mean it was i mean the only way to

[51:36]approach that right i think would be is if you just very gently went over there and said guys

[51:42]my wife over here she's a little hard hearing she's a you know she's not all there she's she

[51:49]really can't hear do you mind i mean just just while the show's going on do you mind just

[51:54]not talking as much i mean i i really appreciate it for my wife she's got

[51:58]she's got problems that's very thoughtful of you and then bash a bottle hits your face

[52:02]there's a jenny in every crowd let them let them handle it you don't need to be the bad guy

[52:06]sometimes there's more of them out there than you think she's gonna cause trouble

[52:09]nobody's favorite this is everybody's favorite part

[52:17]erin this is the part my uncle skips he literally just turned it off every week

[52:23]not as enlightened as he needs to be maybe we should start saying goodbye to everybody

[52:28]all right well thanks

[52:30]probably

[52:32]i'm sure joe from woodbury he hates music i think brian listens to the whole thing

[52:37]yeah let's see brian and his kids everybody we're starting the music section

[52:43]all right when you hear great music like this why wouldn't you want to stick around in here

[52:50]and by the way that that song that you just heard is going to be the most positive thing

[52:55]you're going to hear for the rest of the night like that was the happiest bit of music that

[52:59]you're possibly going to hear we are talking about the smiths

[53:02]album their third album i believe uh the queen is dead the smiths are made up really of the

[53:08]guitarist johnny marr and the front man famously morrissey of course and morrissey just a i'm just

[53:14]going to tell you right now morrissey is just a bit of a bummer right like you you always have

[53:17]that person at work who when you get talked to him you're like oh yeah that's right i forgot this guy's

[53:20]a total bummer that's morrissey morrissey is a professional bummer he is the he is on the mount

[53:26]rushmore of bummers he's on the mount rush bummer like he's he's the only person out there he's

[53:31]a rush bummer uh in fact he's such a bummer that i actually his wikipedia has the word forbade

[53:38]three times because morrissey forbade people from doing so many things for example he he instructed

[53:45]the band to never get photographed eating meat with his after the album meat is murder right

[53:50]well maybe that meat looked like that package of uh whatever replacement meat that resembled rob

[53:56]the other day two weeks ago impossible beef

[54:01]what is it called nobody's interested in that meat whatsoever but he picked the name the smiths

[54:05]morrissey because he said i wanted to pick the most boring name imaginable sounds like somebody

[54:10]had some mommy issues apparently when he came on stage he had a he would have his glasses on and

[54:17]he would he was wearing a hearing aid which you can imagine i bet this is the first artist we have

[54:22]who performed wearing a hearing aid um and yet this band the smiths is one of people think this

[54:28]is one of the most influential english bands ever

[54:31]of kind of like emotional rock and going this is this is pretty much a direct kind of going the

[54:38]opposite of pop at the time right is really being poetic talking about your feelings are they before

[54:43]or after the cure or are they contemporaries like before influence two there okay all right so what

[54:49]is this first yeah yeah yeah before but this is like the cure was at least like i think more poppy

[54:55]than this like i was i've never listened to the smiths i was shocked with how well recorded the

[55:01]this is i thought this was going to be kind of like a like this sounds really really really i take

[55:05]that back the cure started in 78 and they had a few bands right around this time so they're probably

[55:10]you know contemporaries like sharing ideas stuff that i heard from the cure is like 84 to 87 kind

[55:15]of stuff yeah the really good stuff and so yeah and so basically they did one more album after

[55:20]this and then surprise surprise they broke up and swear they're never ever getting back together

[55:24]and they said that this uh breakup was primarily because morrissey was irritated with the guitar

[55:30]players work with other people and they're never ever getting back together and they said that this

[55:31]their artist and the guitar player was frustrated with morrissey always wanted to do the same songs

[55:36]over and over and over which well you might uh hear a little bit on this album but let's get

[55:40]into it the smiths the queen is dead not splooting no she's totally dead not splooting

[55:50]but it is funny because this song caused a bit of a stir when they released it

[55:55]but he always said he said you know it's a double entendre because morrissey's gay and he says well

[56:01]so the queen in this song as well so in classical morrissey fashion he's like no the queen isn't dead

[56:06]it's about me being dead everybody's like oh god what a bummer

[56:10]i read there was a harmonium on this track i don't know i didn't know what a harmonium was

[56:18]it turns out it's a reed organ or a pump organ and the pump organ could be a hand pump organ

[56:23]or a foot pump organ it looks like an accordion oh you could you could foot pump it if you're

[56:31]not many people are into the foot pumping yeah you're mostly playing your own harmonium that's

[56:36]what i find maybe if it's like your birthday you gotta be standing up so that doesn't really go for

[56:43]you rob does it i did read too like that that part of it was like you didn't want to attack

[56:48]the monarchy right but he was kind of saying like hey we act like this is such a big deal

[56:52]everyone follows like the queen and all the you know the royal stuff and it's kind of just a joke

[56:56]because they're really not that important did you guys ever get into stuff like that or not i know

[57:01]you're not that important you're not that important you're not that important

[57:01]last week you were talking about your dad not being an anglophile but did you guys ever like

[57:05]do you follow the megan markle stuff do you follow any of this stuff no and i'm actually pissed off

[57:11]about it i'm sorry that you brought this up russell because i i've been so fucking annoyed

[57:15]since the queen died that like you i go to look at the new york times i go to look at apple news

[57:21]and like half the time there's queen stuff on the front page like you guys know me i'm not super

[57:25]nationalistic but like we fought an entire goddamn war so that we don't have to care about whether the

[57:31]queen lives or dies and it's all over our damn news i'm so sick of it sorry i'm done i'm done

[57:36]patriot when i think of patriot i think of rosie right yeah we kicked him out so we don't have to

[57:43]care i think the there wasn't the royalty bigger before reality tv don't don't you think reality tv

[57:49]killed the royalty like the royalty royalty was the thing where it was like oh my gosh princess

[57:54]dies cheating and then you know uh uh the prince said oh i want to be your tampon you know i had to

[58:01]but we kind of have to and like that was like the hot goss of like celebrities before reality tv now

[58:07]reality tv you see people acting like crazy all the time i mean if i want to see flavor flay find

[58:13]a woman to date that show exists i don't need to hear about the queen and all of her dogs and how

[58:18]all the trouble these i feel like it was just like tv in general right i mean you just had you

[58:23]didn't have celebrities before you had presidents and congress people you know the queen you know

[58:28]but like there wasn't like movie stars and there wasn't athletes and things like that

[58:31]i mean it's just who who are you going to write about i don't know like the fact that that prince

[58:35]was like i don't want to be in the royal family anymore we're leaving boohoo right oh this is so

[58:39]hard i'm just going to want to be a normal person that is the same as when i saw kim kardashian lose

[58:45]her engagement ring in the ocean from chris humphries that engagement ring it's one of the

[58:50]funniest scenes on tv ever it's great she has this huge ring she jumps in the ocean it's gone

[58:55]forever it's wonderful it makes you laugh that's what the queen used to be right yeah that's right

[59:01]you're right thank you guys very much i appreciate it so kim kardashian is on the same level as the

[59:06]queen one thousand percent they're exactly the same i kind of agree ding ding ding thank you

[59:11]and frankly mr shankley this song is bizarre

[59:15]no i'm gonna tell you right now this album is an all-time college vibe album you put this on

[59:28]you are set up a vibe not a great vibe

[59:31]but it's a vibe and you're sending out a message this is the vibe of like the three guys who have

[59:35]no other friends are playing this this is not a good college vibe by those days i will say i

[59:41]vibed with this one today because we're recording this on a sunday and tomorrow i get a new boss

[59:47]my seventh boss in my tenure at my job and it did start to curl up my soul a little bit so

[59:52]this one spoke to me today hey guys this is going to be known as the depressed episode let's do all

[59:58]the depressing stuff this episode and we'll just say it was the

[60:01]smiths that caused it and morrissey and everybody's going to understand that song and just to pile on

[60:06]that song described by morrissey was the resentment and emptiness caused by fulfillment of desire and

[60:10]success i mean that's it right it's like hey i've done as well as i possibly can in life i've done

[60:16]everything i know what yeah what are we gonna do now i'm gonna die when i'm 81 god only knows what

[60:21]i'm gonna do i mean do you think other people are jealous that we have this podcast that we have

[60:24]something that we do like this they are yeah absolutely yes people are because we're here

[60:29]together with each other and that just goes

[60:31]to show how fucking dumb our listeners are because this is absolutely a nightmare every

[60:35]time we lie down we're like the people who express jealousy about it to me don't actually

[60:38]listen to the podcast they just think it's cool when i talk to my friends i i read that uh linda

[60:43]mccartney actually declined playing the piano on that song they wanted linda mccartney rob if i were

[60:48]linda and i came to you and i said hey hey morrissey wants me to play the piano on this

[60:52]paul what what should i do what would he say he'd be like oh linda the one thing you can't do is play

[60:58]that hand pump harmonizer because you only have one leg

[61:01]you can't play that hand pump harmonizer because you only have one leg

[61:01]right was that her oh or was that a what i think that's the only thing that might

[61:06]you get blown off by landmine or something what was it oh

[61:11]this is the depressing episode this is the episode to talk about this stuff what happened to her leg

[61:16]i don't know wasn't she a photographer with only one leg i mean that you gotta imagine like these

[61:21]she had a ton of pictures that were sideways because she was falling over

[61:31]putter never read the breaks the average number of legs in the united states is below two uh all

[61:37]right i know it's over i saw greg olsen on tv today speaking of that guy's got a big dick too

[61:47]disney he says his dick is like a tripod third leg greg yeah i saw him on tv today who's that

[61:52]and that reminds me teddy teddy bridgewater got into a game you've seen have you guys seen you've

[61:57]guys seen his louisville picture right

[62:01]okay sorry i brought this up oh no teddy bridgewater penis and don't bring up

[62:07]look at his school picture that was him at louisville that's his school picture look at

[62:15]that thing look at it why why are we how did we get here again it's as big as the number on his

[62:25]jersey literally if you compare it to the number of his jersey his dog is the same size it looks

[62:29]like a towel hanging down

[62:31]it's unbelievable who's greg olsen uh he was a tight end at miami and oh gotcha gotcha he's like

[62:39]he's a he was the announcer guy i know i don't even know if we're allowed to play this but you

[62:44]know what greg olsen was originally famous for that rap being part of the seventh floor crew

[62:49]with the miami hurricanes how is he even how is he how is he not got canceled for that

[62:54]g-regg what you do get hit how you drop my drawers and let us see my third leg

[63:00]that's a good question

[63:01]that is a very good question i think if you go to the university of miami they're just like

[63:04]okay whatever like it's good like that's you're good for whatever don't worry about it

[63:09]it's it's the two life crew rule uh i know it's over so just to let you know now listen i don't

[63:15]want to bum you out but the opening lyrics of this song says oh mother i can feel the soil

[63:20]falling over my head as i climb into an empty bed oh well enough said p.s happy birthday

[63:26]he is a clever person he's very good i will say

[63:31]the english are in general though i think you're right yeah that's a good point but i will say like

[63:38]he's got a moody voice the songs are moody but there is some humor to it too of like

[63:43]it's so depressing that sometimes he knows it's over the top and like plays with that

[63:48]what do you guys compare this to or what is it what does this inspire when you hear this like

[63:54]what other bands or artists do you think of i thought of the cure but i don't know a little

[64:00]duran duran

[64:00]i mean a little uh talking heads a little crash test dummies

[64:05]not crazy i don't think that's crazy it's the tone is kind of similar

[64:11]i just thought russell was trolling for rob to sing the crash test

[64:15]but i do think like there's something to be said about these songs that are so outwardly depressive

[64:30]and then

[64:30]his voice is depressing and yet the songs are beautiful right like if you're carrying hearing

[64:35]them through a door they're legit beautiful songs yeah i've never listened to the smiths on purpose

[64:40]but they do get played in bars and restaurants fairly frequently oh my god you got to go to some

[64:45]different bars if i do this like like triple rock social club places like that like anytime i'd walk

[64:50]in like and the smiths run i'd be like oh i like this band this is good this is why i don't go to

[64:55]coffee shops what if the next song on the album was like judo game

[65:00]you bring the bang bang into my heart instead we have a song called

[65:06]never had no one ever and my only note for the song is just so depressing i just wrote so depressing

[65:12]maybe like a sad rem song i don't even know what this is like well russell

[65:20]it's interesting that you would bring up sad songs

[65:25]okay it kind of got me thinking a little bit like you were thinking i really don't like sad

[65:30]stuff like to the point where my wife loves sad stuff it's her favorite thing to do we

[65:34]interesting we were meeting new friends at when my wife was in medical school

[65:39]and we had these people over and we've been lifelong friends with them but the first thing

[65:44]we ever did hanging out together ever first thing is jenny goes hey i got this movie on netflix

[65:49]do you want to watch it and this couple's like yeah sure let's watch it it was a documentary

[65:54]about orphans in romania who huffed paint

[66:00]what in the subway where they lived because they also had no home

[66:03]oh and at the end of the movie we're all crying crying and jenny's like that was pretty good i

[66:11]mean she loves it she's like a vampire for being sad she loved i can't do it like because she'll

[66:17]say to me like oh i i like this book i'm reading but you like where the crawdads sing right she

[66:21]read that she's like you can't read it's too sad i won't go see sad things i only see comedies now

[66:26]like in theater and stuff like i just cannot man oh

[66:30]but you know sometimes with music listen it's not always jitterbug jitterbug sometimes you have to

[66:38]listen to some sad songs so i was thinking russell oh i was gonna ask real quick though rob um if you

[66:44]don't want to look at sad things did you get rid of that full-length beer in your bedroom

[66:48]i replaced it with a picture of teddy bridgewater i thought this was our depressing album i thought

[66:54]we were just doing sad stuff yeah actually you know my the lower

[66:59]part of my body is the best looking part so that's the full-length part is that i need

[67:03]you know what i need is i need a mirror that's from like my shoulders up and like the bottom

[67:08]of my balls down like that part of my body i'm thrilled with it's like those when the magicians

[67:13]would like cut people in half and they would like take their feet apart somewhere saw me in half

[67:19]those are the parts i want take everything else out you know the people getting taller surgery

[67:23]i'm doing the opposite cutting it out getting shorter love it so russell i decided to think

[67:28]about what are the saddest things in the world and i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like

[67:29]what are the saddest songs of all time so we're doing a list we're just going all we're leaving

[67:34]it on the depressing album i told you guys it's the sad l now listen rolling stone had a listener

[67:44]poll uh so i was like hey rolling stone magazine it's what we've based our whole dumb podcast on

[67:49]let's do it the saddest songs ever well it turns out those songs were actually sad and they're

[67:53]about sad things like i'm not even going to tell you what the number one song is because you will

[67:56]get too sad just thinking about it so instead tell us what

[67:59]was it about a middle east man in minnesota huffing paint or not it's gotta be no it's much worse

[68:04]actually sam stone by john prine the saddest song recorded that's on the list but it's i know it's

[68:09]that is shit so here's the deal is i'll tell you at the end of the okay after the song i'm going

[68:14]to tell you guys we're going to cap it with the saddest fact of all that's going to be the big

[68:18]reveal we'll work up to it here's the deal so i combined the rolling stone saddest song list

[68:23]with my own saddest song list and we're going to start with a song that has made me cry when

[68:29]i was in high school i listened to the song i listened to the lyrics i absolutely cried my eyes

[68:35]out you cried this is johnny cash with i hung my head jesus yeah i set off running and this is a

[68:42]song about a kid who accidentally shoots somebody like in cowboy times went into the sheen and then

[68:49]gets arrested and hanged for his crime to the south land and i just i was listening to this

[68:55]one day i don't know what it was i was like in my car driving and i just cried and cried and cried

[68:59]so sad incredible i know aaron's brought this up before but the and then the old johnny cash songs

[69:06]are just heart-wrenchers aren't they yeah so then you hear about him growing up like in the

[69:13]dust bowl on a farm all by himself you're like yeah listen right here there's like this chime

[69:18]it just tears right now i'm like tearing up just a killer yeah it's just like how can you

[69:24]sing a song and make a halfway through his life

[69:29]man cry like that's crazy uh next up just for man listen there's a song that the guitarist brought

[69:35]with him when he joined the band he had written it as a demo pearl jam i don't know any other

[69:41]fact about the song but here it is black by pearl jam it's all about how listen i know

[69:51]you're gonna be the bright star in somebody else's life like oh yeah i mean jeremy's about

[69:56]a kid shooting people in his class jeremy

[69:59]you know better man dreams and can't find a better man all this stuff i mean they they sing

[70:05]some depressing ass shit man you think about a song talk about a song that's perfectly recorded

[70:09]and mixed this thing sounds fucking great because my flack yeah oh god um yeah so that's maybe this

[70:22]is a terrible idea guys we should not be doing this no right let's keep it up okay so we have a

[70:28]classic you did this rob can i tell you that two of these songs i just pulled from the soundboard

[70:33]i have because you know this oh jesus yeah this this is aaron we aaron and i have had a uh this

[70:41]is probably about a year ago where aaron and i went off on one king of the hill episode but this

[70:46]is famous for when bobby got gout so this is a sad song this is about when bobby from king of the hill

[70:52]got gout oh think about aaron with gout i got gout i got gout figs are piling up

[70:58]his feet hurt and then he's going to the dance with suzy the neighbor dragging his foot up he's

[71:04]he's got a rascal yeah he ate too many chickens so he's got a walk on his gout chicken livers

[71:10]i got gout i think you've had too much i couldn't finish this list well we're not finished but the

[71:20]third song on here from the end i mean i had to go back it's i hurt my

[71:28]how could you not

[71:29]i have heard this song songs in bars i've heard this on a jukebox in the bar like

[71:38]during the day let's go give that person a hug right yeah right the lyrics are myself today

[71:45]to see if i could feel the song that's so big nobody thinks of the nine inch nails versions

[71:52]anymore right this is the version that is see i still love the nine inch nail version like

[71:57]everybody else knows

[71:58]that one but the nine inch nails version is awesome

[72:01]all right we'll talk let's talk about some more depressing ones

[72:07]one of the other songs that i listen to all the time now and god we can't have rob play them but

[72:18]it's uh warning signs by um coldplay and we should pull up some lyrics it's just depressing

[72:28]but you're breaking up with somebody things like that like depressing yeah

[72:32]shit um smashing pumpkins siamese dream i mean the whole album i just get in a bad mood sometimes

[72:38]after i listen to it i don't listen to it that often anymore i don't know

[72:43]i just want to make it to heaven

[72:47]i just want to make it in

[72:54]oh

[72:58]listen this is a good time for me to tell you a real life sad story i have going on

[73:04]what's your depressing episode i because of covid i had to cancel my weight lifting power

[73:10]lifting meet this weekend which is a bummer sucks yeah but even worse it was my daughter's

[73:15]first power lifting me today yeah how'd it go and this is i want to be just like you dad isn't it

[73:21]and i had to watch her over a live stream because i couldn't be there in person it was totally just

[73:27]like the number two song cats in the cradle oh yeah look at this sign my daughter made for my

[73:34]other daughter look at that she's never made a sign like this for me ever literally when she

[73:45]started i cried at my computer proud dad moment cried because she didn't set like a national

[73:52]record or no she says state record at the bench of course hey um and she's only a bit away from

[73:57]the national bench record but here's the deal and i did miss one of her lifts because i was

[74:01]putting together a list about sad songs but i missed her lift and i was like oh my god i

[74:08]missed one of her lips do the podcast now i think one of the saddest songs though is we have been

[74:13]talking about getting older this is kind of in a toy story type situation where we just

[74:16]talk about getting older depressing actually one of the most depressing songs you can think about

[74:21]is is there going to be a time in your life where you can ever use this song again

[74:27]wait no weddings no i mean there's nothing big coming up on the horizon there's nothing great

[74:34]so ironically the song celebrate by cool in the gang reminds you

[74:40]this is actually one of the most depressing songs ever all the fun is in the rear view

[74:46]i'm going to the wedding of one of our listeners in uh in october in kansas city so i will let

[74:51]you know if they play cool in the game well i hope you don't get covid and have to skip it

[74:57]hey rob you won't be invited to that one either

[75:00]hey aaron i hope you sing and ruin their wedding like you ruined rob's wedding too

[75:07]i've not been invited to sing at this one i don't know what that says about me

[75:11]aaron if when i get remarried you're definitely gonna be singing my wedding whether you like it

[75:15]or not this is the way it is so listen this is this is a song cemetery gates this do you know

[75:21]what this song is about a lot of authors friends hanging out in a cemetery

[75:27]talking about authors guys everyone is hanging out in a cemetery except for me

[75:31]they're using gravefinder.com they are finding those graves

[75:34]kind of sounds like uh someone mentioned this band the other day it's fair dakin ladies a little bit

[75:40]there there is something about his voice with the super bright guitar sound isn't it and like

[75:46]it works kind of the fun like super fun rhythms rob you mentioned the the guitar

[75:52]sound on this i believe the guitar player is johnny marr is that right yeah so actually there was a

[75:57]another artist that we know a few years back who played a song pulled in johnny marr for a song it

[76:02]was back and the song was milk and honey and he had him do these leonard skinner type riffs check

[76:07]this out yes

[76:11]that's the guitarist from the smiths smiths is playing the guitar on this

[76:27]song with that when it comes to playing songs about things that give rob digestive issues

[76:32]with people from the smiths who did it better back did it better every time and i like beck's

[76:39]other song called baby guinnesses from two weeks ago two weeks ago uh all right so now we have uh

[76:48]this is the lead single so they had not made an album for a couple years before this one

[76:52]and they released this single to show them that hey a new

[76:57]smiths album is coming out and it's called big mouth strikes again

[77:01]i know i'll join of arc as the flames rose to her roman nose and hearing aid began to melt

[77:13]oh can you jump to the beginning of this one just weird i mean this is i love the lyrics on this is

[77:22]so good i heard mumford and sons i think there's no

[77:26]yes

[77:26]and i actually i googled to see if there was any connection and i couldn't figure out the

[77:38]name of the blog but there was definitely some sort of message board where they were having an

[77:42]argument over who the worst fan in the world was the smiths or mumford and sons

[77:47]the smiths were up four to zero on the on the page i was reading

[77:52]it votes no no i think i'd rather listen to the song than listen to the song

[77:56]listen to the smiths and mumford what's your alias on that message board yeah pile of shit three

[78:01]made his murder

[78:01]raw is gonna be depressing for you the boy with the thorn in his side so this one might be a upper

[78:09]i don't know let's let's listen so this was the thorn is the music industry

[78:17]they don't all sound depressing though unless you listen to the lyrics right no you just

[78:21]tune out the lyrics like matt's pretty good at tuning out the lyrics sometimes they don't all

[78:26]sound depressing they don't all sound depressing they don't all sound depressing they don't all sound

[78:26]depressing do they no not at all what do you think of this one matt the album

[78:31]these ones feel like they're on some 1992 yes indie film or something right i guess the background for

[78:41]it so i like these ones you know to russell's point i don't listen to the lyrics i couldn't

[78:46]tell i didn't know the one before that they didn't know they talked about joan of arc and

[78:50]roman nose and all i just i never listened to that so the ones that are a little more upbeat

[78:55]i'm fine with but the ones that are

[78:56]dark and dreary man they they're dark and dreary so i'm blown away that this sounds so good i i

[79:03]always thought of the smiths as like a kind of a i don't know what a garage band almost but the

[79:07]recording of this and that's another way i think that they're like the cure where it's a super clear

[79:12]sound and they really pay attention to having those high frequencies and low frequencies

[79:17]kind of mixing at the same time a vicar and a tutu

[79:20]i have a more silly one actually

[79:25]kind of rock and roll

[79:26]yeah yes

[79:28]oh yeah guitar work too

[79:30]yeah they're very assessed at incorporating different musical styles

[79:39]i don't know guys this might be an album i keep listening to after this it's kind of a

[79:46]it's kind of a vibe right this is the type of music you listen to when you're at 41 in the

[79:51]but you're on the third half of your life and you got nothing to care about right you can't play the horn

[79:56]like ferris sanders so what are you gonna do what are you gonna do listen to the smiths

[80:00]just stare off into space uh this one is what a lot of people think is the quintessential there's

[80:07]one smith's album on the 500 list they think people think this might be the perfect smith song

[80:13]and as aaron alluded to earlier the lyrics and if a double-decker bus crashes into us

[80:19]to die by your side is such a heavenly way to die and if a 10-ton truck kills the both of us

[80:24]to die by your side

[80:26]the pleasure the privilege is mine mine

[80:29]can you imagine this russell mentioned rem and this is what makes me think of rem because

[80:37]i i wait the entire album to hear this track and then i put this one on repeat

[80:43]yeah it's just like night swimming for me it's like i don't care about the rest i just want to

[80:46]get to there's a life that will never grow out because i love this song this might be one of

[80:51]the top 10 songs we've done on this list to me such a great love song

[80:55]i just love it yes listen just listen right here

[80:59]it's so good

[81:10]what do you think of morrissey's voice there and how does he how does he use his voice it's kind of

[81:18]unique right yes he's so he has a really pure like he's singing really beautifully here he has a

[81:25]really pure voice and he's singing really well and i think that's what i'm looking for in this song is like uh well i think in the opening track where he just comes off the melody entirely and and doesn't seem to bother with melody and then he he's you know he does a lot with what he has he's he he chooses

[81:39]a unique way to to approach each song in a way that his voice wouldn't lend itself to you guys will never believe what bands inspired uh the smiths if i told you that it was

[81:54]uh the smiths if i told you that it was

[81:55]velvet underground and the stooges would that surprise you at all

[81:59]no no no it's like the i would say elvis costello too but yeah but those bands didn't have what this

[82:05]band does for the closing track for the closing track finally a song about breast size some girls

[82:15]are bigger than others technically true have we done any other songs i don't really i don't

[82:23]understand the choice

[82:25]no the song is great it's about what we all want to think about here's the thing

[82:29]have we done any songs just about breasts i couldn't think of any

[82:33]such a weird song that song about my humps my humps my little bit lovely

[82:43]i think that's a 115 we're gonna get to it soon

[82:46]it's just so funny where he's like how should we end this album ah i know

[82:55]listen i got this great song very now i can tell you some guys are bigger than others and let's go

[83:00]back to that lenny kravitz clip okay rob has his list it's all i can think about a spreadsheet or

[83:08]how do you keep track of all this rob it's all up here

[83:12]spreadsheet now we're in a spreadsheet

[83:17]back did it better rating system

[83:22]oh yeah

[83:25]listen that was the queen is dead honestly compare delton john a favorite album because

[83:32]it's not a fucking double album that takes 10 years to listen to that is a half hour album

[83:36]you get done with this album you're in you're out you're it's it's great hey the smiths they

[83:41]got a thing they're very good at it it's what all these bands are trying to do all the time

[83:45]they are at 113 on the list okay kind of a sad number if you think about it actually pretty

[83:52]fitting for them uh 113 a sad number is that a perfect place for the smiths that means that

[83:58]they are rolling well toned if you think this album okay if you would love for it and you

[84:09]together to be hit by a double decker bus okay you're you're walking across the street in jolly

[84:15]old london town with your mates okay and this record you're holding it your hand in hand okay

[84:21]with your tiny

[84:22]tiny hands and you're holding this tiny record you went to the tiny record store you got this

[84:26]tiny record you're crossing the street all of a sudden you look to the left to see if any cars

[84:31]are coming you step out but unfortunately you're in london the cars are coming the other way because

[84:35]on the left side of the street immediately double it's twice the horns yeah it's double

[84:42]horns because there's one guy up top also honking the horn it's a double decker bus it hits you

[84:46]you are in heaven it's what a you're privileged to die that way that means this album is

[84:52]a rolling uh bone it should have been higher up you love the album okay or should this be lower

[84:58]on the list okay and i know what you're thinking lower on the list well that's going to be a lower

[85:02]number no lower on the list would be a higher number we of course are going from 1 to 25 much

[85:08]like they don't do in a beauty contest you don't see that very often where they say the number one

[85:12]and then they go all the way to the end and you find out who got last place would be a bummer at

[85:16]a beauty contest if that was you and it's kind of something that morrissey might sing about with

[85:20]the smiths and this album the queen is dead at 113 uh if you don't think it belongs up there

[85:26]this is a rolling groan okay now folks we have to hurry up we're running long so please don't

[85:33]waste any time tell me what do you think of the queen is dead at 113 makes me laugh every time

[85:38]russell what do you think i don't know this was fine i thought it was interesting it was kind of

[85:43]bopping around i i didn't quite put the lyrics to the the vibe of it didn't i didn't think sounded

[85:50]through the whole thing but the more we talked about it it made me honestly dislike the album

[85:54]even more than the first time around so i thought it was fun to listen to i can't see myself ever

[85:58]coming back and listening to this again though so i'm gonna say it's rolling groan it's too high on

[86:04]the list for me russell can you say that last sentence again but make it sound like morrissey

[86:07]please it's rolling groan and so i'm not gonna come back and listen to this ever again perfect

[86:13]rosie what do you think rolling well-toned rolling bone or rolling groan morrissey the queen is dead

[86:20]i i am always surprised at how much i enjoy the sound of the smiths and i

[86:24]for this one also just kind of let a lot of the lyrics wash over me

[86:28]uh except for there's a light wood that'll never grow out which i love

[86:31]forever but uh i just don't think there's enough here musically uh i think there's you know i think

[86:39]there's good musicians but there's just not enough here that that justifies it being higher than some

[86:44]of the stuff we're gonna hear uh eventually so i'm gonna have to call this one a rolling groan

[86:50]groan thank you i was gonna say i do excuse me i did hear mr morrissey speak on that oh by the way

[86:55]i know what he banned he banned anyone from ever calling him stephen because he hated his first

[86:59]name that was forbade from calling him by his first name so uh matt what do you think rolling

[87:04]well-toned rolling bone or rolling groan morrissey and the smiths i know you can forbade and i know

[87:11]you can forebode but can you ever just forbide

[87:14]i uh

[87:19]you know again i think this whole this whole list is you know i said it a couple weeks ago

[87:25]this whole list comes for how it was influenced for the artists that came after it i think there's

[87:31]a strong connection between hair metal and then this depressing ass shit um that like depeche mode

[87:39]and ah good one you know uh echo and the bunny and um who else talking heads and the cure and all of

[87:49]you know you take hair metal you take all this stuff you put together and you get to my favorite

[87:54]stuff grunge right you kind of get the deep dark feeling stuff but also some long intro you know

[88:02]noodling solos and things like that so i personally long noodling like this a little

[88:08]yeah a little bit a little better than i thought i would um than i thought i remembered the first

[88:15]time i listened to but i think it's because i've kind of gotten into this synth pop

[88:19]really rock british sound from the 80s lately and so i don't know i can definitely see where

[88:25]it came from if this is the album that kind of kicked it off great i don't think it is but

[88:29]you know from a again from a concept concept standpoint i think this is rolling well toned

[88:36]you kind of feel where everything else comes from after this listen well oh i'm sorry man i didn't

[88:42]hear what you said i said rolling i know but i don't know how they got i don't know i can't do

[88:49]it

[88:49]it's like it's like just open up your mouth 55 right open up your mouth 155 a year place right

[88:57]i mean it's late you guys are warriors tonight it's rosh hashanah tomorrow i don't have to go

[89:00]to school open your mouth real big man say and just talk from the back of your throat and then

[89:03]you're talking like morrissey oh perfect you nailed it listen there are very few albums where

[89:12]cats in the cats in the cradle is actually one of the more upbeat songs we listened to today

[89:16]like that was we're kind of like that's kind of fun this album is a little bit more upbeat than

[89:19]this album is a rolling depression okay yes when you are in a bad mood and you want to hear

[89:25]somebody else who's in a bad mood listen to the smiths it's going to pick you up because you're

[89:30]like hey my life's not as bad as this guy i mean he's he's a celibate vegetarian that sounds like

[89:36]a nightmare to me that sounds like the absolute worst that's tough i mean that's that's rough

[89:41]that's tough not a lot of pleasure he is not the principle of pleasure he's not living by the

[89:48]pleasure principle

[89:49]he's the opposite hey come on over revving leaks tonight and having no sex

[89:55]listen next up i was so excited because i swear that we were doing the first clarence carter album

[90:07]but it's not it's it's uh is this it

[90:11]oh god is this is this it oh fuck i'm gonna have a lot to say about this one

[90:15]when you want to hear about the greatest album of all time

[90:18]but you're just too lazy to look it up online

[90:24]do you have a joke russell if you want to hear i got my i might need some help with it i can try

[90:29]yeah you do your joke and i'll do my bit i've got the perfect podcast for you jack

[90:34]what do you got rob

[90:38]uh it was tears in heaven

[90:42]oh when you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time

[90:48]i hope i hope this is the one my uncle stayed listening to the

[90:57]this is kind of depressing and it's so

[91:03]please give us some tuba music to go out on a high note

[91:07]lou reed looks at the smiths and is like boy those guys are bummers

[91:18]and if it was the two of us