Cocteau Twins: Heaven or Las Vegas (1990)

[00:00]The last episode, I had a joke at the end that I had written when I had done my joke about the Cocteau Small Twins. And it was asking you guys about the penis sizes of the 1987 Twins members. I'm not sure. We don't want to talk about that, do we? I mean. Seems like a bad idea. Yeah. I mean, plus, you know, Dan Gladden. Like, you could just picture it, right? It's huge. His nickname was The Wrench. His nickname was The Wrench.

[00:30]I didn't know that. Kent Herbeck? Kent Herbeck? Sorry. You just know. Come on. Give me one, guys. One member of the 87 Twins? Yeah. And what do you think his penis looked like? Big or small? Was Randy Bush 87 or 91? 87 for sure. Wow. Both? I think it's both. I believe there are seven that are both. Can you name all seven?

[01:00]Ooh. Kirby Puckett. Ken Turbeck. Greg Gagne. Greg Gagne. Yeah. Dan Gladden was on both. Al Newman. Oh, good one. Was Brian Harper on both? Nope. Rob's out. Tim Laudner. Nope. He's out. Matt's out. Aaron, you're out. I was saying Tim Laudner was the 87th catcher. All right. Matt's still alive. Matt's still in. Frankie V? Frankie V is one. I'll give you that when you're missing one.

[01:30]I got Randy Bush. Frankie V was not. Oh, not Frankie V. I'm out. Let's think about who hit a game-winning hit in the 91 World Series. Larson. That would be Gene Larkin, Aaron. Larkin. Larkin. Was he on both? Number nine. Wow. On both teams. Wow. Man, that's how you play. Who were the twins that were on both teams? Larkin hit the game-winner and Bush scored, right? In 91? Is that right? Wow. That's still wild.

[02:00]A 1-0 game seven. Gladden scored, I believe. Gladden scored. Okay. Here's another baseball trivia question while Rob's looking. What are the two northernmost cities in the United States to host a World Series? What are the two northernmost cities in the United States to host a World Series? Toronto? Nope. United States? They're in Canada. What? Oh, okay. Okay.

[02:30]Let's see how you guys voted. I know this one. You let me know when you're ready for my answer. Is it Minneapolis? That is one of them. You were right. Denver? What enough? Detroit. Seattle? Incorrect. Incorrect. I bet it's way lower than you think. It's probably New York. Yeah. New York? You're incorrect. Matt, you want to take these guys on a trip on the map and tell them where it's at?

[03:02]Yep. What you do is you have to go a little bit south of Minneapolis through the great city of Richfield, God's country, to Bloomington, Minnesota. Yes. 1965 World Series. That is a trivia question. That is so gross. That's nice. That is one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard, and it will be repeated to my dad immediately upon his awakening tomorrow. You know what? This is perfect, Rob.

[03:30]I have told this story to the Upstairs Roommates dad, and it may sound familiar. He got a laugh out of it. He thought it was a great trivia question. Toronto's way south compared to Minneapolis. Wow. Speaking of, I got to say something quick. Upstairs Roommates dad. Was that a wedding a few weeks ago? Mm-hmm. Upstairs Roommate dad is a fantastic dancer. Really? He, like, I was told this. I didn't know this at the time. But he was, like, a ballroom dance teacher at some point in his career.

[04:02]This guy has done it all. And so he had, like, legit, they were out, him and his wife, Upstairs Roommate mom, were out dancing during some songs. They got called out with, they do the thing where it's, like, who's been married for X amount of years, and they were the first one to go out, which is cool. Nice. It was over 45, I think. He's a real renaissance man. He was doing, like, real twirls and stuff, and I was like, I'm not going out there now. This guy is, like, a legit, he's got moves. Like, that is, now, Russell, were you at all intimidated?

[04:33]That seems like kind of an alpha move that you might have to go out there and try to show up a little bit. Yeah, I was. The other thing is, this wedding was in a, it was very hot that day. We're talking 100 degrees of that Iowa heat in the deep south there, and it was not the most well-ventilated church that we were in for the dance area, so it was, for me, I probably danced about five times, and it was half a song. And back to my chair. Russell, I don't know if the dad of the upstairs roommate is out there getting down.

[05:06]I'm not saying he was tearing it up the whole time, but when he went out there, and when he was putting on, like, the ballroom moves, or I don't know, the swing, whatever the moves were, there was no one else that could do what he was doing. And then all of a sudden, all of a sudden, this song comes on, and Russell, like, grabs his date and runs out there. Fuck, you fade this song. You know what I mean?

[05:30]Russell's like, finally, this is what I'm an instructor of. It's the bump and the grind. Here's one other thing I'll throw by you guys real quick. I thought the music at this wedding was really fun. A lot of good songs. A lot of good songs to dance to. They had, I think they did a fantastic, A-plus with music. There was one or two songs at our table that got questioned, and one of them was Gold Digger by Kanye. Like, that's not a wedding dance song, is it? That's a good flag. No, that's a great song.

[06:00]That would be bad. That would be like if your first dance was like Goodbye Earl. You know what I mean? You're like, we don't have to play this. That's a wild choice. We should ask our friends who have been DJs what they think of playing Gold Digger at a wedding. Please call the voicemail line, 802-277-BECK. Let us know. I wonder if we would ever be able to see the upstairs roommate dance on the dance floor at some point. Wouldn't that be great? I would love to see this in person. I'd love to see that sometime. Wow. That's a great idea. Maybe I'd show Rob a picture at some point in the future, but I don't plan on sharing

[06:32]a picture with him either. I mean, like, live. I'd like to see this live. If only there was a spot we could see this live sometime. You know, maybe there will be someday, Matt, and I'm sure if there is, Rob will be in Mexico then. If not Mexico, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, somewhere. Somewhere he needs to go. Oh, I've got a whole summer at the lake. You know where I need to go? I need to go to Mexico. I want to go to Mexico. I wanted to be there so bad, too, Russell. Listen, Russell, at that wedding, though, all you got to do is set up a Zoom for my best

[07:05]man speech, okay? Because then I will talk to you from my pool by the beach. No problem. So, we had so much fun with that story. And then the real weird thing was Aaron was just sitting outside, like, on the beach. Oh, yeah. It was odd. Yeah. I said he's waiting for the turtle nesting sites. Oh, never mind. That's a joke. Only if you've been to Mexico. Russell, probably, you wouldn't understand that joke.

[07:30]In 2020, four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums as decided by Rolling Stone Magazine. This resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music, excoriated the order, and led us to making this podcast. We are far from experts. We promise to do almost no research. All opinions are our own unless you disagree. Please sit back and enjoy Beck Did It Better. We are all the way up to album 245. And from 1990, it's certainly my favorite Cocteau Twins album. It's Heaven or Las Vegas. By the Cocteau Twins. Now, I've been a fan of theirs for a long time.

[08:00]It's true. Ever since their dad explored the ocean. Ying Yang. Ying Yang. Is that the twins? Yeah, when did we hear Get Low? Is that on this one? Ying Yang. Snap your fingers. Is that on here? There's no way Rob knows who the Ying Yang twins are. Of course I do. I've been to enough strip clubs. I've heard the Ying Yang twins. I've been to the Gladiator once or twice. Like I said, ever since their dad explored the ocean. Hitting him with that classic Jacques Cousteau joke.

[08:33]I felt like Jacques Cousteau actually rustled on this trip to Mexico I took. Because I went snorkeling. This is true. I went snorkeling with sea turtles. They loved the straws and six-pack holders I brought to feed them. God, they ate those things right up. Jeez. They thought those were awesome. The thing is, I brought in a plastic bag and I was like, what am I going to do with this? What am I going to do with this plastic bag? Snatched it out of my hand. He loved it. He loved it so much he took a rest afterwards, Aaron.

[09:02]Floated upside down in the water. All right. So, let's turn on K-Rob. Now, I'm just going to tell you this. Now, Matt has taken off. Is it possible he's playing a game of bags somewhere? Is it possible? That's right. Or he's just warming up. He's just practicing. Tomorrow night's bags night. He's got to practice. Yeah. Second cookie. I think he's making more cookies. He's finding which koozie he's going to use best. He does have the look about him. Like he might need more cookies tonight. Guys, we have to get in this episode.

[09:31]Let's drill down on North Dakota Matt. Let's see what Matt's debauchery level is this year. Because every year he's kind of like, I don't know. I got to be careful. I got a feeling this summer is kind of spiraling out of control. I mean, I recognize it. He looks like a guy who might have jacked off twice in a day. You know what I mean? All right. So. I mean, you don't have enough time to shave. You got to be up to something. Matt, why are your showers so long? It's hard to come sweating a lot.

[10:01]Long showers at the family cabin. All right. Listen, now this one, I took a new turn here and I feel dirty about this actually. But the Cocteau Twins, of course, are kind of, it's what we're going to call dream pop. Right. Or kind of, it's shoegaze essentially. Right. And me doing shoegaze karaoke does not really work. Kind of. It's dream pop. So I asked it to make a twin song. That in the pastiche of shoegaze or dream pop.

[10:30]And I had AI do this. Now, I feel disgusting doing this, but the result is funny enough for me that it over. Well, okay, Aaron. I mean, now, did I also eat almonds while I did this? Yes, I did. Okay. I told you. I learned a lot on my trip. You're burning it down. Yeah. See, why are we carting people at bars? Harkening back to last week. They're not going to be here next week anyway. No, it's fine. We're not going to last that long. Everything's fine. Underage drinks, whatever. That's true. Smoke them if you got them. Listen, this is the pastiche I made.

[11:01]Let's see how it goes. This is the Cocteau. I call this song the Cocteau Twins 1987. Now, you probably haven't heard the second verse, though. This is so awesome.

[11:33]It's kind of like Hailey Bonner style. Oh, yes. It's a little bit silent. It's awful. Oh, no. I'm in the bathroom. Oh, it's Kirby Puckett. Oh, what?

[12:02]Oh, nice. What is it? I'm going to make that transition very smoothly into the theme song. Oh, I want to hear about the greatest albums of all time. Do you want me to? But you're just having it or not? You know what? I could make a longer. You got a wonderful guy. If you help the players, I'll help you with it. Wow. How many other offensive? Twins players do I have? Thank God he just was on a podcast and he told the whole story about how him and Steve Lombardozzi got in the fight in the front yard that season.

[12:34]You got to do something with the dazzle, man. There's no way I would fight a guy named Steve Lombardozzi. That seems like you would lose every single fucking time. We will. You know what? We'll play that at the end for Matt. A little tease for everybody at the end of the podcast. Don't just fast forward there. Okay. We'll know. I look at all the stats. Jeff Reardon, something with the beard, right? Oh, my God. Reardon and beard. It sells itself. So listen, I've got three guys here who say that this saw that this band is classified as dream pop and said, for me, that's root beer with vanilla in it.

[13:06]What's your say your name and what's your dream pop? Russell in Minneapolis. How are you doing? Rob, I enlisted to find you. I naval salute you. Wow. Oh, wow. And Russell, what's your dream pop? If there's a pop that could be invented, what would be your dream? Like a pop that's never existed? Yeah. Or think big. Or maybe even like I almost said Code Red Mountain Diet, Code Red Mountain Dew because I loved it.

[13:32]Not sold anymore. What's your dream pop? Surge Zero. Wow. Russell, I saw you drinking a Surge Zero. I know this is a real man I'm dealing with. Aaron. Oh, I've got Matt who's away right now, so I don't know what's happening. I'm a little worried he's pulling a Russell. I'm acting like he's sick to get out of here. But I've got Aaron. Oh. Oh, I wish I wouldn't have picked this one. I've got Aaron. You can tell me if I have to do another one after this.

[14:01]Just let me know. Are you going to ask him what his dream pop is? No, after this. He's got to get his arms out first. I've got Aaron. See, Russell's are used to this. I can start doing this for you too, Russell. Coming up with a funny bit that I did not steal from online people. Is this a funny bit? Aaron went into a hotel with his family. We know this. Aaron just went on a family vacation before his friends had family vacation. He went on later. Aaron went to a hotel and said to the front desk, he said, listen, are there porn channels in this hotel?

[14:30]And the guy said, yes. And he said, listen, could the porn in the room be disabled? And the guy goes, well, yeah, I'm sure they have every type. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh. That is sick. Wow. That is sick. Me on tenderhooks waiting to see what Russell's going to say. In case I got to do a backup to edit that. Aaron, how are you doing? I'm doing great. I don't have any lyrics from this album, but I have two thoughts. I'm dream pop. If you'll permit me. The first one is that I saw a video of Tam honks.

[15:00]Sorry, Tom Hanks on. Hey, this guy fucked up Tom honks and Tom Hanks. We called Tam honks in my house because on one time on the golden globes, they were doing a bit about the Adele Dazeem thing and Amy Poehler and Jesus. Tina Fey. Tina Fey. Thank you. Called him Tam honks as a joke. So now I do it automatically. So I saw Tom Hanks because they were. They're doing a joke about it. Dina Manzano. It's a good, it's a solid joke. I appreciate it. It was excellent. He was on,

[15:31]I think Colbert and he was talking about how he doesn't really drink, but he was at an event and he was drinking a diet Coke and they were bringing the champagne around and he was like, yeah, just for a little champagne in the diet Coke. And now I have to try it. Like I really want to try. Oh, champagne in the diet Coke. That's my dream pop. Aaron, do you want to hear my, my Tam honks impression? Yeah, please do. Are you crying? Are you crying? There's no, there's no crying in podcasting. He was so mean to that volleyball. Listen,

[16:00]we're going to play a quick game before we get started. We're going to introduce Maddie's back. Yeah, I will in just a second. This game is Russell. Please don't answer this. Does Russell know what the, a Dean Dizell mentioned was earlier? Does he know what that's from? What do you think, Matt? Does Russell know what the, a Dean Dizell, John for sure. For sure. Anybody knows what it is. Yeah. Aaron, what do you think? Does Russell know? No. All right. Russell, do you know what we're talking about? We're talking about the Dean Dizell. I have zero. I have. Thank you very much.

[16:30]Thank you very much. Like a pop culture thing or what? Yes. This of course was, uh, who wasn't, it wasn't, it was, uh, Travolta. John Travolta, John Travolta. Wow. Dean Dizell. Listen, it doesn't matter how you type this. It's a made up thing. See, it came up. It fucking came up. I wrote John Travolta, a Dean Dizell. Nailed it. Okay. Here, watch this. This is, yep. Here we go. It's going to be hard to find. It's not going to be on the regular internet. You have to go on the dark web. This is John Travolta at the Oscars,

[17:00]Russell. There will always be a special place in my heart. Now, the singer's name is Adina Menzel. She was in Frozen. Adina Menzel. Heart for the movie musical and for the songs that create their most memorable moments. Here to perform the Oscar nominated, gorgeously empowering song, Let It Go, from the Oscar winning animated movie, Frozen, please welcome the wickedly talented, one and only, Adele Dazeem. Oh no. That was terrible.

[17:32]All right. Let's just listen to that one more time. What happened? I almost passed out. I almost passed out. Okay. Watch. Adele Dazeem. Adele Dazeem. It's funnier than I remember. What happened to him? What the hell? I don't know. Adele Dazeem. Russell, I could tell you from a guy who has to teach things like words to students, this is what happens when you don't know what you're doing. You're going to say before you go out there. When you try to teach something that you don't know, you call it like endoplasmic blipidiculum.

[18:01]That was a great endoplasmic reticulum bit, by the way. Hey, that's for my, that's for my, hey, that's for my ER heads out there. You better get your kid back in school. You know what? I'm glad he screwed it up. There's something about the, the guy wearing the all black suit with the black shirt under it. Like, I'm glad he fucked it up. By the way, Aaron didn't think I was going to be able to buy that. I know. Nice work. He knows I'm, he knows I'm going hard. All right. So Matt,

[18:31]Aaron went to a hotel, said, Hey, is there porn at this hotel? The, uh, the guy at the hotel and he said, yeah. The Aaron said, Hey, can it be disabled in my room? And the guy goes, yeah, it could probably be whatever kind of porn you want. You're telling it again. You know, Matt didn't hear it, but the listeners now have to hear it twice. Aaron, nobody's listening to the cocktail twins episode. Nobody's listening to this episode. It has a chance to be a top bottom five episode. I would say, let's get, I love it.

[19:01]Let's get it. Fuck off. Callers are so stupid. Kiss my ass, Matt. How are you doing? Matt? Now North Dakota, Matt, how are you doing? Are you saying North correctly? Well, no. And it's because we did. Okay. Well, if you guys remember from last year, okay. Obviously you guys don't listen to the podcast very much because last year I did do this sound clip of what Matt's kids are learning. In North Dakota. And I pronounced it North Dakota. Let's listen real quick. It's time to find out what Matt's kids are learning in North Dakota.

[19:34]Oh yeah. My favorite flavor of vape is bubblegum. Wow. That's something really interesting that they're learning. And so actually I've been calling it North Dakota, like in my life now. So it's kind of a sick, sick joke, Matt. Well, my serotonin is gone a while ago, Rob. So thanks for having me. Wow. Yeah. What's your wife's name again? I'm worried. What's her maiden name? Is it Tonin? Listen,

[20:01]let's get right into, for the first time tonight, let's get right into the voicemail. I've got one here just called Matt's voicemail theme. Oh, fuck off. Callers are so stupid. I can kiss my ass. God, my listeners are dumb shits. They're just the dumbest of the dumb. Wow. So good. All right. We are going to talk about, here we go. Look how many voicemails we have, by the way. Um, okay. Can I just say this? I have to say something. We had a call or call in.

[20:30]Hold on guys. Hold on. Rob. Take your earphones off. Okay. Rob just has to say something guys. So let's, let's let him get it out, but he has to say something. Okay. Rob, come back. Nowhere else in my life. Wow. Listen, this is the only, I'm just going to say, this is the only time where I'm talking more than other people in my life. Okay. Sorry. Hey, I, can you guys see why his daughters get annoyed as shit with him or not? You see why they had to build a second cabin? I'm not saying I would be,

[21:00]but I understand. You can see it from here. All right. Come on back, Rob. It's almost like you guys would like to ride me with me on a plane. If I was high and sitting in between two of you. Oh, I would have too many good bits. All right. Oh, the take the picture of the, the thumbs down bit. They love that. Listen, we got a three minute voicemail. What? A three minute voicemail. That's a, so I did just like I saw in a movie. I recently watched because I do have my summer. Fuck.

[21:32]Kevin Costner to Tonka. Buffalo. Yup. Movie. Field of dreams. Dances with wolves. Dances with wolves. Just like in dances with wolves. I'm using every part of this voicemail. I chopped this long ass three minute voicemail plus a text message because the voicemail got cut off. I have chopped those up into five different. Different voicemails. So we will now be kind of doing a charcuterie board of the voicemails over the next five weeks.

[22:01]Okay. Which one's the carrots? Now I'm just going to tell you this. If nobody else calls after five weeks, we're going to have to come up with a new segment. Okay. I propose. Does Russell know this game segment? I thought it went really well. It was not. I will say this from text message I've received. I believe I do know who this texture is. And they had told me that whatever they did, they, they wrote notes on the voice. Like, this was a prepared notes are taken or written for the voicemail is my understanding.

[22:30]Don't, don't misinterpret this. I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled. This is, this is incredible. Okay. I love having tons and tons of voicemails ready to go. Um, additionally, Matt, I'll go to concerts with you. We seem to have the same love of music. Um, favorite song from Pearl Jam is amongst the waves. Would love to hear your thoughts on that. Where ranks among, uh, your best songs, Matt, he's asking you about a Pearl Jam song.

[23:01]And I know you have some Pearl Jam news to expound on today. Well, Matt Cameron, a longtime drummer who came in at about 1998 after Soundgarden broke up. So it was originally part of the kind of some of the demo work. Did some work with stone and, uh, Jeff back in the day, did not come along in Pearl Jam because Soundgarden, and taken off for Pearl Jam took off Pearl Jam for 27 years, 27 years.

[23:30]And this week, July 7th, he called it a career with Pearl Jam said he's done, uh, touring done. He's leaving the band. There's no, doesn't seem to be any, uh, ill will or anything like that. It kind of makes you think that maybe he's just getting old and time to be done. Things like that. Maybe hopefully not okay with health and all that stuff. But Matt, uh, Cameron MFC, Matt fucking Cameron is, is done as the drummer for Pearl Jam. So Matt, you've called him Matt fucking Cameron before.

[24:01]And the one time I remember you doing it, I took it as a, I thought you didn't like him as much as a different drummer or something. It's kind of his, uh, his heartfelt nickname from, uh, from everybody. It's Matt fucking Cameron to Matt Cameron, Matt fucking Cameron from Pearl Jam. The Beck did better except for Aaron. Now Aaron is too. Yeah. We salute you. I was given the name. And your hate for work, which of course is a main tenet of this podcast that no matter what your job is,

[24:31]work sucks. That's why it's named after the worst possible thing work. So Matt, what, what is Pearl Jam going to do today? Are they, they have a session drummer already up? I mean, have they had the shows since then? What's going on? That is the, the Reddit pages are just full of who should be coming in and do the, the drumming. Now there's a guy, Josh Kling, Hopper, Klingsdorf, who filled in with red hot chili peppers for about eight years. And then their dude, I forget the, the bass,

[25:01]the lead guitarist who was all hopped up on drugs. I forget who it was. Decided to come back. And so then Josh was out and Josh has been touring with, and kind of a, a kind of a quasi sixth member of Pearl Jam for the last four or five years now. And then he definitely he's in the back risers at the concerts and stuff, but definitely part of their live shows. He could potentially be a, he's not a drummer per se. So I don't know. There's, there's a lot of people out there. Jimmy Chamberlain from smashing pumpkins is out there.

[25:32]There's a bunch of other people are thrown out there. Chad Smith is, has been one because he tours with the kind of a super group called the earthlings of which Eddie Vedder is the lead singer of earthlings and some other kind of famous. It's like a mixture of a band. It's a, what do you call it? Back in the day, it was the traveling Wilburys, ask type type scenario, but there's no way he leaves red hot chili peppers. So I don't know. I don't know. We'll have to see just comparing the humans.

[26:01]And I only know two people in the humans, but when you think about that band, it just shows you how ugly the traveling Wilburys were, right? Like you've got Chad Smith and Eddie Vedder in a band. And meanwhile, your mom's hooking up with Jeff Lynn and Roy Orbison. Get the fuck out of here. Tom Petty. Honey, I have something to tell you. Roy Orbison made sweet love, to me in 1965, if Pearl jam is lacking a, a member of the band who will cheat on their family and impregnate a

[26:31]random waitress, they could get Dave Grohl. Oh, well, the problem is they're also looking for a drummer. There's a, there's a kind of a drummer shuffle going on right now. Isn't there? There's a full time drummer, right? Not, you know, I don't, I don't know. Drummer is going to need to pay for some stuff. So he's going to have to get out there and do some gigs. Hey, listen, some people hate work. Some people love fucking people who aren't their wives. Everybody's got their thing. You know what I mean? Some people like doing podcasts with their friends on Thursday. And man,

[27:00]how often does Pearl jam perform? Are, are, are they like, are they doing live concerts like on a multiple times a week basis all the time? Or how often are they touring? I mean, they, they, they've been typically doing two shows in a city and then there's a day between those shows. So they'll go like on a Monday and then a Wednesday and then they might travel, maybe four days off and then they'll, they'll go, you know, like Sunday and then Tuesday, then things like that. Or it kind of depends on what it is, but you know, they, Eddie rumors out there,

[27:32]Eddie Vedder's voice is starting to go a little bit. He's, I think he's 60 now, 59, 60, 61. So doing three hour shows like you used to like to hear that at all doesn't work any longer if that makes sense. So, you know, they do about two to two and a half hours shows, 20 to 25 songs. What's the drummer's name again? Things like that. Matt Cameron. Speaking of old guy shows,

[28:01]Matt, you see who's coming to us bank next year. I did not. Do they announce it? I know there's been a Paul McCartney. Oh really? Yes. Wow. That's a real good. I've heard of his shows are like very vanilla. I don't know. I don't know if, I don't know if I care to go see that one. That's a big, that's a big one to go see, but you know, are you contractually obligated to go see him? That's the, that's the question. When the major is how old is he?

[28:30]He's the 80. How old is Paul McCartney? I thought I saw today. Jesus. That can't be a great show. But, but Matt, what if you look at the set list? Would, if you got a chance to look at the set list, would that help? Like if you saw major was a lady on there and a bunch of like wing songs, I'd be like, well, I kind of want to see this. I think it would kind of, right. Yeah. Nope. Some of those would be great. I don't know. It'd be interesting. Can I just say this? I got two things to wrap this up. Number one, just look at Matt Cameron's age. He's 62. I was picturing a guy who's like, seriously, I was picturing a guy who's like 35 being like, fuck it.

[29:00]I'm not working anymore. 62 is totally different to me. Yeah. So he's going into the hall of fame, uh, sound gardens going into the rock and roll hall of fame this year. So he'll be a two time hall of famer. Well, that's awesome. Can I tell you now, Matt, what about, well, actually, let me tell you this first. I just had a realization that in five years, I'm going to be a teacher. Who's working in the weight room after school was going to be 50. Yeah. How about that? I cannot be a 50 year old teacher who works in the weight room at a,

[29:30]at a high school. I cannot be that person. I have that image of the guy who did it at my high school. And he was a fucking loser. Okay. He was a teacher who worked at the weight room. The guy was a fucking loser. Not me. I'm going to quit. You were like khakis that don't fit quite right. Kind of sag a little ways. Russell, how can you say something so pointed and hurtful? You, you, you know, that's true. In five years, you might still be a 50 year old guy who's still doing this podcast, but in six years, you'd be a 51 year old guy. Who's not doing this podcast anymore and working in a weight room at high

[30:03]school. I don't think about that. We're going to celebrate our 50th birthday and then come onto this fucking thing and do a podcast talking about the slits or whatever. Give me a fucking break. I mean, can you imagine who we're talking about at four 98? Yeah. There's that. Don't drop down there though. Pull it up. We got donuts. It was only because the, I don't know who the caller was, but he brought up amongst the waves by Pearl jam. It's on backspacer. I believe. Like how I like rain,

[30:31]call them a tail. Like what are you giving this song on a one to 10? This album is like a top. This is in the bottom. You know, if there's 12 or 13, it was probably album number six or seven. This song is like a top 30. So it's, it's in rotation. I listen to it often. It's one of the world. Listen, I went out and met magic. Mike, would you commit to going to a Pearl jam show with this random caller who you have not heard yet? The other four fifths of the voice. I'll go to anybody.

[31:00]Anybody who wants to go to Pearl jam show would love to go to a project. Hey, can you guys understand the lyrics of this one? Just want to know. No, no, I can't understand any of the wave. I had the grave. I want to stay tonight. High and high amongst the waves. Wow. Okay. Right. What a, what a fitting question for tonight. Tonight's album too. And that leads us into today's rolling. Go in now, man. Real quick. If you had the poster for that drummer's last show,

[31:31]does that go up in value? It's time for poster. Crazy valuable. Probably not. I mean, it's not like, you know, it's not like the, you know, like the band's last show or anything like that. I have tried to explain your poster situation to my wife three times, all three times unsuccessful. She has, she eventually asked me a question that stumps me. You know what I mean? Like I'm, I'm just so mystified. Your poster thing. I've, I listened to it twice since it came out. I just, I I'm just, what's so mystifying. Wait, isn't it? Just go to this venue before the show and put it in a poster and put it in

[32:03]your room. It's just wild to me. Like I had an idea of Matt being a Pearl jam fan the same way. I'm like, they might be giants fan by most of the albums go to a show. If they're in my town, he was a much bigger pro fan than you. This whole thing is just so much bigger. And Matt, it must be a real loss with somebody leaving the band. It would bum me out if it happened that they, it might be giants for sure. Yeah. Where would you rank him out of the five layer or however many members, if you said, Oh, this person leaving really changed. So obviously Eddie's number one,

[32:31]but how did the rest of them rank from one to five? He's probably like three or four tied at three or four. And so Mike McCready is the lead guitarist who shreds and doesn't get enough credit. And you know, he really is not among like the top 10 or whatever, but he's a great kind of leader. Lead guitarist, if you will. So he's probably number two only because of his musical impact, if you will. And then it's between him and Jeff Amon, the,

[33:00]the bass guitarist. And if you really listen to the base, he's pretty darn good. So stone Gossard who started the band stone and Jeff started it. Um, he's kind of the rhythm guitar and he, he gets the rhythm guitar for any band gets lost on me, you know, between the lead guitar and rhythm, I just, I don't understand. I don't understand the music composition. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have the musician enough to really know how that works. Now, Russell, back when they first started the band, what was the band's name? Mookie Blaylock, former Nets. That is correct.

[33:30]And you win today's. Wow. Of all the Mookie Blaylock stuff. I had, there wasn't a great Mookie Blaylock upper deck card where they were wearing the Nets. It was like the tie dyed Nets jerseys where it was like bluish white. Wow. Woof. Put that in your PSA and smoke it. Right. I got, yeah, I got a lot of baseball card questions. I don't know if we're gonna do this tonight or not, but Russell, let's get into rolling going with you. You win by knowing that. And your prize is you get to go first. Rolling going. How's it going with you, Russell? How's it going with you, Russell? I'm gonna,

[34:00]I'm gonna combine a history and geography from my, my last week of a trivial pursuit categories. Historical geography. Past is history. The future is a mystery. That's why they call it geography. Geography. I headed South on 35 W a few weeks ago to Aaron's home state of, Iowa. Yes. The deep South. Wow. And boy, did you, oh, I'm so excited to hear about this. Did you pass by any port-a-potties and be like,

[34:30]no, what happens in there? Passed by any port-a-potties, but I did pass by the city of clear Lake, Iowa. Wow. Which is the city where is it? The ball. What's the surf side ball room, the surf ball room, the surf ball room, which is where the big bopper baby. Wow. And buddy Holly and those guys, Richie Valens played their last show. And then they crashed in the field a few miles off the freeway. And so we decided we were going to stop at the Memorial on the way down and

[35:01]clear Lake and see the Memorial for buddy Holly and the big bopper. Russell, I'm just going to say this between the last episode and this one dating you seems like a whipsaw. You just never know what you're going to get at any time. This is a cool adventure. Wow. This is, this is, this is an amazing adventure. So Russell, did you find any parts of the skull? Like one of our callers? Oh, that's not right. No, I did not, but we did pull off. It takes about 10 minutes driving on some back roads to get there.

[35:30]And you get there and there is, we drove by it once. We had to turn around and get it, but they do have like a parking area where you can go. And there's a huge set of glasses honoring buddy Holly, of course. Wow. And when you walk up to it, there are probably four, three, 400 pairs of glasses laying under where, where people are leaving their own sunglasses. They're leaving their own glasses on at the Memorial site for buddy Holly. Would you guys have left your glasses or sunglasses or no? Absolutely not.

[36:01]No, I can really, what the fuck? I really like my sunglasses right now. I only have one pair of glasses. So I wouldn't, I'm trying to think like how big of an impact on your life. Buddy Holly can possibly have, you know what I mean? Like how, how much can buddy Holly really, really mean to you at this point? Right. Nobody's getting that as their first wedding song right now. Nobody's doing like, I, how would it be a big enough deal to leave glasses there? I just don't get it. Well, what if it was like a 12 pair of $12 pair of sunglasses you get at the gas

[36:33]station? Well, I was going to say like, you know, I typically, I got a buddy who buys like the, the 12 pack of the $4 sunglasses. I probably on here. Yeah. Cause I'm so, I just always forget them. I might leave one of those pair just for the heck of it. There you go. I see now to me, my Ray bands or anything like I'm at a wild game hat trick. Doesn't matter what the hat is. It's going right. You just know, go in there. This is something I would wear a hat there probably just so you're ready for it. Going to the buddy Holly.

[37:00]If I show up and I'm supposed to put my glasses there, I'd be like, F you know, who would leave their glasses there? Russell, my 13 year old who never brings her glasses anywhere. We went on a snorkeling trip and I was like, Oh, did you see that squid? She was like, I didn't see anything. I'm not wearing my glasses. I can't see a thing. I was like, what the fuck? What did I just pay? For it? I gave this extraordinary tip. You could tip way less. It turns out she didn't see how much you tipped and read the denomination at the big boppers area. Was there just a ton of panties?

[37:30]That's what I put them in your face. So we get there and there's a, there's an older couple that is walking back. So you get out and you can get your picture. Take your, you can, there's a spot to kind of take your picture. You can see the glasses, but the real Memorial is into the field. A third of them, about a third of a mile. So we have, there's people walking back there, an older couple. And they say, it's probably like a 10, 15 minute, you know, probably a 10 minute walk into the field.

[38:00]So you can't turn around right then in front of them. You got to wait until they kind of go back far enough where you're not going to pass them before you turn around and walk out. I think if we've gone this far, you got to go all the way. We got to go into the field. So we're walking into the field. Now, Russell, you mentioned it was an older couple. Were there any younger couples than you at this? There, there was only one vehicle. There were two vehicles stopped when we pulled in. One of them was gone. Like when we were getting out of the car. So there was one other vehicle. They were kind of an older hippie ish couple, which were Rob.

[38:30]I could see like, I could see these people being like, Oh, I have some sort of connection with this somehow. And so we decided we're going to walk, but they say, we're warning you. It's pretty muddy out there. There's a part where you kind of have to walk off the path and into the field a little bit. You still go on Rob or you not, you're getting back in that, the car. Absolutely not. Because I know I have brought two pairs of shoes to this wedding. One of normal shoes, one of my dress shoes. If my shoes get muddy, I'm not wearing my dress shoes the rest of the time.

[39:01]Matt used to be walking in a muddy field. Right. Probably depends on the level of mud. Can you get around it? And what, what J's I have on certain J's that I wouldn't, wouldn't do it. But if there's others, you know, I probably Aaron. Oh, I mean, you have to, you went this far. Aaron would go for sure. That's true. But dumb question on my part. So we start walking in it. This is like, it's been a hundred degrees everywhere for like the last few weeks. Right. Yeah. It was another one of these super hot days.

[39:30]We get out there and all of a sudden it does get very muddy. There's like standing water where you have to traverse over like some barbed wire and into the field to keep walking. Good. But it's not, it's, it's low barbed wire. It's like, you're not going to get your anything caught on it going over at Andre, the giants. Style or anything. Right. It's like, it's like a foot off the ground. Barb wire to me says one thing. And that is don't go here. Okay. Yeah. You don't go there. I would not wrestle.

[40:00]This seems like, are you sure you didn't go the wrong way? No, this is the, it's clearly the right way. The path was underwater. So you had to go into the field to get there. So eventually we get out there. There's a cool little Memorial. It's got their names. I think it's got some guitars on it. Um, I, I was there and I, I paid an homage to the big bop. Right. I, I said, we appreciate your music and I apologize for everything Rob has ever said about you on the podcast. And we did a little bit before I think we got there. And then for most of the rest of the drive, we listened to buddy Holly.

[40:31]Wow. The greatest 20 or whatever. We listened to the big bopper. That big bopper album is fire. It's not just the Chantilly lace song. There are good songs all over that album, white lightning or whatever. There's all sorts of good ones. Steven Jackson and big bopper, both from Port Arthur, Texas. Oh my God. My God. Russell, what a great thing to do for our podcast. Visiting the big bopper. And then they're also peep. There were markers where you could sign the, the base of the,

[41:00]of the buddy Holly eyeglasses statue thing. And I, I signed it back. Did it better for us? Oh, wow. That's great. Hey, if you're listening, cause you saw us on the Memorial, sorry about that stuff that you heard earlier, because I know that you're about 85 years old. And some of the stuff I talked about would blow your mind. Just like if you ate a gummy nerd, nerd cluster, okay. Let's see. This podcast is the equivalent of eating a nerd cluster for old people. I had to share one or two quick other things. So I did go to Ames, Iowa for this wedding. And I know this is pretty close to Des Moines.

[41:30]So, and I, Aaron, I don't know if your sister lives in names, but your brother and sister, they go to games and stuff. They're familiar, right? Yeah. They spent a lot of time with me. My sister was in Ankeny, but they spent a lot of time in Ames. My sister works up there a lot of times or she did for a while. Yeah. They know, they know the grounds very well. So I get there and we're at a hotel. I don't get it. Russell, why you asked when, where Aaron's sister lived, he, he looked side to side a bunch of times before he answered it. There's a real person. Yeah. So, so we get there and, uh, I believe it's the morning,

[42:00]uh, maybe Saturday morning or Friday night. I text Aaron and I text little Rosie, Matt. I don't know why they call him little Rosie, but that's what's in my phone. I mean, he's taller than Aaron. I think. Why do they call him little Rosie? I don't know. Is he in my phone? Is little Rosie too? He might be. Let me check. But so I text him and I'm like, Hey, I'm in Ames. Any places I need to check out little Rosie comes firing through. Aaron gave me a recommendation or two, but little Rosie comes firing. Oh yeah. He's, he's got it. Yeah. He's definitely a little Rosie in my phone.

[42:30]He gives me about seven recommendations of bars, restaurants, brunch, like different places. I should try out. I tried damn near all of them over three days. I, I, I picked them off left and right. Unbelievable. This guy, you know, if he asks you for a wreck, he's going to hit him up. I'm like, the opposite of Rob. When Rob asked for like advice on where to go for this. Like, I don't even send shit anymore. Cause I know he's not going to take it or his people are going to take it. So I took every bit of it. You're not wrong. Rob loves asking for advice.

[43:01]Never takes anybody. I've stopped giving. Makes me feel superior. One of them was a, a Brazilian coffee house slash dive bar. Hmm. Right in the middle of kind of like campus or whatever. We go there and he, but, I wish I wouldn't have interrupted for this. If you flip over a green card, did they bring you more coffee? Okay. Keep going. I'm so sorry. That's the one you're going to regret.

[43:31]Oh, I looked over the green card. They would have brought me another long Island iced tea. Why is this a Brazilian coffee place? He looks at the women sitting in the chairs in the back. He's like, Oh, I see why. They're, they're getting Brazilians. Oh, why don't you guys don't even know the names of different waxes that women get, do you? Why don't you do one more? You look at Rinaldo one, and then we'll get them all off the list. So we go there and the hall and little Rosie had told me about this.

[44:03]They are famous for long Island iced teas. Oh my God. So we go to get, we go to get a coffee and maybe some brunch at probably 10 30 ish. No Russell. Like the bartender says, you guys want a long Island iced tea. My question for you guys, what is your answer? I mean, you're there. Yes. You're there to have a good time. You got to say yes. The morning of the world.

[44:30]Yes. When in Rome. Yes. And that is what Russell's drinking. We all want to know, but I think I have an inkling. You're damn right. You get the long Island. If they're going to offer it to you, you have to say yes. Right. That you have to, you have to get a long Island. It's it's it's it's how was it? Russell? It was pretty fantastic. I got to say, I had to slow down and not drink the whole thing. Cause they brought it up like a small pitcher. Like, Oh,

[45:00]like it wasn't like a 12 ounce, 16 ounce glass. It was probably like in a 24 ounce thing. A long Island is one drink that has never, ever been served in appropriate size glass. You know what I mean? Like an appropriate amount of long Island would be like, like a cocktail cup, like a, like a low ball. The long Island glasses for some reason are the biggest. It's like the number one item that I've drank out of. Like, like remember at the Steins that they had at that polka bar. And I would order the tide to the bedpost,

[45:30]which is basically like another version of that. It was so fucking big Russell. No wonder I got fucked up that. And the woman shooting tobacco up my nose, just cause I paid for her to do it. I do. I do. I did. I did like the snooze, but Aaron and Aaron and little Rosie gave me some great recommendations. I got to go see the Iowa, state football stadium and walked around it and did a whole tour. I got to see a sign of Nevada. I took a picture of the Nevada sign and sent it to you guys. I can't tell you how happy I was following those, those pictures. I was headed to the water park that day, but I was glued to my phone,

[46:00]checking out the photos. Then I'll share one more. Karen at the water park. God, I want to talk about that so bad. I found some, that little Rosie wasn't aware of. It was a coffee shop slash record store. It was called the vinyl coffee shop or something. You go in, they got it vinyl. They got, records you could buy. You can get a coffee guy made me a coffee. I didn't really drink it cause I don't drink coffee, but I let him make one anyways and paid for it. But I bought, I bought a record Roberta flack, which was on the list. I found one on the list. It was super excited.

[46:30]It was 10 bucks. He gave me a discount. I think he wanted me to have it. Wow. I got it. We went to a different bar called sweet Caroline's sports bar. I left my record at the bar. Wow. Russell. That's that's tough, man. That's rough, but I also get it. That you've had, you've had like two long islands by that point. Yeah. You've had long islands. There might've been an espresso martini in there. If I remember correctly, there was maybe, Hey, do you make good long islands? Should I be having those as well? What's this guy talking about? It's a 1 PM.

[47:00]That's what makes it good. Speaking of rough rolling, going here, it doesn't go with you. Oh man, it's going great. I want to share one thing because Rob mentioned the work sucks earlier. And I'd have to share that tonight. We were on our way home from the pool at Wallace. So he's like kids learn, so much at summer camp. So he, he learned blackjack there and he's actually, he's got it down. Nice. And, but then he, he requested all the small things, which I didn't know that he knew. And then he said, my favorite part is work sucks. He's eight years old.

[47:31]I don't know where he learned this, but he's got it, man. It's amazing. I cannot, I'm just telling you, Aaron, to see kids. My 16 year old now has a job with a paycheck. She is teaching swim lessons and she comes home and goes, the kids don't listen. And the parents are all crazy. And I'm just like, yes, Oh honey, I love you. You know what? You know what life is like now? I just said, just picture this for the rest of your life until you're 62 and get to quit. You know what I mean?

[48:00]Until you're still 50 in the weight room. You're on your way. Yeah. But I did a bunch of, I did a bunch of traveling with my family over the fourth week. So we did some time in Minnesota, some time in Iowa. Uh, I did over the last two weeks go to two different water parks. I went to hurricane Harbor, here in Concord, California. And then I went to the great Wolf lodge there in one of the Northern, one of the two Northern most cities to ever host the world series. I don't know if you guys knew that. The best part is that when Aaron got to see Luca Garza performing there,

[48:30]the great Wolf, many before he got let go to Boston, right? I mean, what's, what's more, can you imagine Boston, Aaron? I cannot imagine how much crotch rot you had after two water parks in two weeks. My crotch area would be, that green bottle. I'd be ankles up over my head every night, putting that medicated powder on me. Like crazy. I just can't imagine a water park. A water park. Crotch fungus is like no other crotch fungus too.

[49:00]It's pervasive. It's it's, it's up there. It's in there. Did you guys know the one, the, the great Wolf lodge in a Bloomington has one of those like boogie board wave things that you can ride on the super fun, but I definitely wiped out on it once in front of a whole line of people. I'm embarrassed myself shorts coming off the whole thing. When I was younger, I chaperoned a junior high trip to a water park. Now in retrospect, I made a couple of mistakes. This of course famously is where I got on the slide where they had to

[49:30]make sure you didn't weigh too much. And at the top, they had a scale and I was with all my students. And of course I did way too much, but I'm not going to read those fucking rules. And they said, you need to get on the scale. And I said, no. And they said, okay, they just put me on the slide and then they locked me in a case. And I was like, wait a minute. And I went so fast. I hit the end like hard and I was like, I'm fine. I'm fine. Because I knew that baby also they did have a surf simulator, Aaron that I got on and I fell so many times that I

[50:01]had a headache the whole ride home. It was brutal. And I got no better at surfing. Yeah. Water parks are tough, man. I did get better. I got better. This is the last time that I did the boogie board, but I had a couple of embarrassing white. My 13 year old, I was probably 10 when we were there and he said, Oh, I want to get on. I'm like, are you sure? Oh yeah, no, I'm going to, I'm going to try it. This is pretty tough. You know, third, three seconds in face plants, falls back and all this stuff. And it's not,

[50:30]yeah, it's a rough one. Yeah. It's not, it's not gentle at all. When you fall on that thing, your crotch gets slammed so far up your butt crack. It's crazy. Your pants either come off so far off or go so far up. You're just at the top. A lot of crotch stuff with water. He's really crotches and water. The hurricane Harbor and Carver in Concord has a capsule drop. Great Wolf Lodge, no capsule drop, but does have the boogie board. So I don't know. I might give the nod to hurricane Harbor over some great Wolf,

[51:03]but I did have a nice time. A great watch. Uh, last thing I want to say, it's always tough for me when I'm in Minnesota and Iowa, because I got like a lot of family. It's a bunch of family time. It's hard to see everybody. It's hard to make up. Make everything work. So we were out a Wednesday night. The kids were supposed to stay with grandma and grandpa at great Wolf. We were going out in Egan. And I said, Russell, would you mind coming all the way to Egan? Because that's where I'm at. Of course, Russell made it work on a school night on a night when he was going to

[51:31]go up north the next day. And we're out with my sister-in-law and her husband and their son, because he's wanting to skip the sleepover. That's a different thing. But of course, Rob, as you know, if you bring Russell to any kind of gathering with anybody, he wows, he impressed. Says the next day, everybody says that Russell is so great. He loved talking to him. So shout out to Russell, big props. Always loved to see him. And he is, yeah, he's the best guy to bring to literally I bring Russell to meet people. And literally it changes their lives.

[52:00]I mean, it's crazy. Like when you go out with this guy and he is in dating mode and having a conversation, you realize how inadequate you are. Like you think you're a good talker. You're shit. You're Jack shit. You're horseshit compared to this guy. You know, I will say though, Aaron, Aaron and his wife, and her family are very social people. Like I could have sat there like there's no pulling teeth with that group. They're all super fun, super jovial. They've got stuff to say, like they've got thoughts on stuff. It's super easy to have like a fun conversation with them. So that's,

[52:30]it's, that's like a, it was a pleasure. It was a pleasure. This is a turned into a foodie town, Minneapolis, right? We have to get the best, uh, new restaurant according to what's the rankings that just came up. James Beard, James Beard, things like that. It's easy to hustle lives in the best neighborhood and the best part of the best town lives in the North loop side of things. And we can bleep that out. Two decks want to remind everybody on the episode.

[53:01]Lately, he, he mentioned he has two decks restaurant after restaurant and bar and jazz club, jazz club. And you make this fucker go to Egan, Minnesota, make him, you guys don't come to go to him where all the cool people hang out. You make him come down. He let me guess. He went off pilot knob and what's the other one right there. If you went to some restaurant right off pilot knob, Yankee doodle road at the first place I took him to, which was actually pretty, had a pretty cool vibe. So it was called like food and rail or something. I don't know.

[53:30]Yeah, it was called kitchen rail and it kind of had a cool vibe. It kind of had like an oldish vibe and then we, was it at Yankee doodle and pilot and then where did I walk him to right in the middle of that Buffalo wild wing strip mall right across the street. We went to some bad cow, but it was right in the middle of that whole fucking area. The suburbs is exactly why this maps bit exists because there is not a straight road in that whole town. Every road like curves and then there's a slight curve. And then next thing you know, you're driving behind a mall to get where you're going.

[54:00]It's one of the wildest places. When I see Yankee doodle road on my ways, I know I'm in for a fucking adventure. It's just, I'm going to be going crazy places. I'm in the woods. I'm in a town. I'm curving past a tire place. I don't know what's going on here. You want to know? I appreciate Aaron and his wife. And this is what makes, me earlier you were saying how with your daughter, like when she was like getting her camera taken away, you would just always go with it. Always try to do the easy thing or nice. I'm like that a lot of times, but I'm also not like that sometimes. And so I like the end of the night.

[54:30]Like I was like, Hey, I happy to go out to Egan or whatever. And it was fun. It was a blast. But at the end of the night, it was like, I could have taken them back to where they were staying. And I was like, nah, I think it'd just be easier if you got an Uber and I didn't feel like it was offensive or at all to say that. But I know there are some people that would have insisted on dropping them off. And I was like, fuck that I'm going home. Get your ass out of here. Yeah. Oh, that's one thing I've that's the last thing I got to share. Got the Uber great driver, very friendly. He pulled into the,

[55:00]pulled into the spot at Anna's sister and his sister's place. And he started clapping and he was like, he was like, you made it home. You're home. And he was clapping for us. I've never had this happen by an Uber driver, but of course, you know that the Uber driver is celebrating, getting, getting to a destination. That's very bad. Yeah. What is that guy? Star rating? Like that's crazy. Went from zero to five at one trip. Oh, for sure. Oh yeah. By the way, clapping when you're, when the plane lands, kids hate that when you're sitting in between them on a flight,

[55:31]I'm just going to sit there right now. They do not like it. Your teenage girls do not like when you do that. That's it for me. How's it going? It's even better. Yeah. You know, it's even better. What's that? Everybody else is clapping. Yeah. And you're the last one to stop. You just keep going. You just keep going. I love it. Just keep going. And then you say, I'm the last one. I just love it. It's like going to a movie theater. And after every preview, when it's quiet, you say, we should see that real loud. It's really funny. Well, Matt, you're not the last one, but I do want to know how it's really going with you. Good,

[56:00]Rob. Why don't we play the, the note Dakota intro, and we'll just get this out of the way. Let's get it. What we're learning. Matt, that is music to my ears. It's time to find out what Matt's kids are learning. I think the last year. Daddy today, I learned the most important amendment is the second one. Oh, that was a sad one. Might delete. I will say that, you know, we famously Leo loves going to bingo and at the bar,

[56:30]there's bingo on Friday and Saturday nights here. So last year too, my, my along the line of clapping or doing things like that. My, my favorite one, there's always a regular bingo. And then the next one's a coverall, right? And so somebody always wins. A regular bingo, just a straight bingo. And then, and then when they win, they win 25 bucks and it goes to the coverall on the same card or whatever. So, so my bit is every single time somebody wins the bingo and the next number that's called, you know, B three.

[57:00]And I say, Oh, that's what I needed really loud just to get it over and over. And now they're getting sick of me saying, this is another good bit. Oh, that's the one I needed. Can I tell you this, Matt? This year at school, I bought a giant bingo wheel. And a bingo set up. And I now do bingo games. Sometimes the school is like, listen, we got 120 kids. We don't know what to do with them for like 15 minutes. And I'm like, fuck. Yeah, let's play bingo. I hand out the bingo cards. And one of the bingo games I play is reverse bingo where you stand up.

[57:31]And you don't sit down until I call a number on your board. This is just like the thing they did at mystic lake. A hundred percent. Yeah. It's a blast. Cause it's so visual. You can see who's winning. You can see who's going to head to head. It's awesome. People start, cheer and they get a little antsy is you gotta love it. Yeah. Yeah. Only a couple of things. I think that come to mind this trip to North Dakota. So kids are getting really good at water sports. I don't know if we've talked about this,

[58:01]but you know, they're both, it took the older one like a year and a half to get up on the, the wake surfing board kind of a thing. First one up first, first time out this year, he got right up. Nice didn't fall. It was, it was, it was unbelievable. So it was good. So we're learning wake surfing. I knew I put this on my summer one. Yes. Nailed it. The, the younger one on the knee board, he's doing three sixties now. That's the big thing on the,

[58:30]on the, on the knee boards and three sixties. And we've graduated from the like sit down tubes, which we call the Cadillacs. Cause you can't get thrown off no matter what you do with those things. No, if you fall off those you're getting seriously hurt. And now we're going one-on-one flat tubes against them. We're going one-on-one flat tubes against each other. Love it. And you know, so that's what, that's what we try to knock each other off. You mean you're trying to see if you can hang on the legs. That's kind of the source of contention. Little ones always on the outside, if you will, for how things work and you know,

[59:01]he sometimes can't get back into the wake, but his brother's kicking them out and then he tries to hold on. It's a, it's a hole as an older sibling. I'm always like, Hey, they can do what they fucking want back there. That is international waters. There are no rules that might makes, right? Yep. No, but the only kind of bad, you know, we famously, we've learned to drive the golf cart. So they're pretty good. You mean like they're old hat. Now they learned how to drink when Leo got served as a 11 year old, hard IC or whatever it was given a,

[59:33]a snow cone, a hard Mike's snow cone. They learned how to gamble with a bingo. And then I think we talked about the swearing last year where Eddie, you know, just said, I don't know what this lady's saying. She's one of Sarah's cousins who was saying shit all the time. I just, I hear this word all the time. So, but those, those, those two clowns are now firmly, and I blame their friends weren't anything in the swearing category. It's kind of funny cause it slips every once in a while now. And Sarah and I just laugh.

[60:00]So, you know, Eddie on the surfboard, we were going and all of a sudden Leo yells, Oh shit. There's a lot in it. And you know, he doesn't think anybody can hear him, but it's on the water so everybody can hear him. So, so they're, they're, they're, they're getting old hats. It's it's swearing this year and nobody cares anymore. - Can I tell you ironically, Matt, I am a swearing corrector when I hear it at home. Now you have to understand my wife swears more than any person known to man. She swears we'll be in an elementary school.

[60:30]She'll swear. We'll be at a kid's birthday party. She's swearing like crazy. I often have to give her the little arm touch, which she really appreciates. She says, thank you. Every time I do it, it's not a source of contingent as Matt so diplomatically says. But when my kids swear, my younger ones sometimes will just casually swear. And I said, please don't swear. So guys, I'm actually a good dad. Okay. Kids, if you're listening to this podcast, I'm so sorry. - Do you even go as far as say, you know, daughter, I love you dearly. And you must know that those who swear are just not bright

[61:03]enough to use their actual words. - No. - It's the weak. You say that in front of your wife at all. - No, yeah, no, I don't say, hey, you know, people who just make dirty jokes over and over it's because they're not smart enough to make jokes about Descartes or whatever. - Ooh. - Nailed it. Pulled it out. Pulled it out. Smart guy stuff. Fuck yeah. - He's yelling. That's good. That's good. So then the, really the only, the only kind of newish thing besides some of that stuff is that Eddie, bless his heart.

[61:32]He had a big weekend last weekend. He got to stay up past midnight and Eddie's 10. And you know, some, some, some kids out here, like midnight's early for them to go to bed. Our kids are famously going to bed while the sun is still up out here. Cause it stays up about 45 minutes later than Minnesota. - Oh, that's rough. - On time zones work, but he stayed up till midnight. He got to do nachos over at Sarah's Cousins that we usually do on Fridays and Saturday nights. - Nice. - And so yes, he now has stayed up past midnight.

[62:00]That is the big wind. - How was the hangover the next day? Was he good? Or was he hung over? - Oh, Aaron with the great dad question. God damn, that's a perfect dad question. - He, he liked that he slept into like nine o'clock. It was, it was. - Oh yeah. Slept into nine. - That's so good. - Oh, that's fascinating. - So it was kind of a muted year. We're not learning too many new things, not too many controversial things, but yeah. - I got to ask, how's it going for you? Okay. What is your situation with the drinking

[62:30]in North Dakota? We know that it's been up and down and a lot of up, a lot of, we, we, how is it going this year? - A lot of bottoms up. - I think, I have. - Yeah, a lot of koozies. - I've been, I've been fighting it for years, right? Like I don't need to hang with these guys. I don't need to try to one up them. Every time they give me a beer, I don't need to drink it. - Uh-oh. - If I pour out their beer, it's okay, kind of thing. So it's been all right. - Okay. - It's been okay. I think I've learned. - What's the drink of choice this year? Has it changed? It's still the same? - No, it's Primo Light. It's, you know, they drink Bud Light.

[63:01]Like I said, Morelli's next door. They're a, they're a Coors shop. So we always get to have a Coors Light around, stuff like that. - Party ball. - It's always light. It's always light beer. Cause they always drink like 17. I just can't, I just can't do that. - Now guys, I just pulled, I just pulled the word party ball from my mind. Can you explain to me what that was? Russell, you worked in a liquor store. What's a party ball? - Isn't it an eight? What was it? Eight? It was equivalent of eight beers. What was that? - Coors party ball. Cause I saw this when I was like 12.

[63:31]- Party ball keg. - Like the big cans and like the little kegs that probably fit 10 beers in it or something. - It's stuck in my mind what a party ball was. Yeah, this. - Oh, it's a little keg. - Yeah, it's a little keg. That's like, guys, I wanted to have a party ball so bad when I was 12. I was like, I don't know what it is, but it looks fucking fantastic. - I was up North Cole's Resort up in Bemidji, Minnesota. - Wow. - Swingers Paradise, Swingers Paradise. - As I sent you guys, there was a picture that said Cole's Resort, 500 feet approaching.

[64:04]And I sent that to Rob and Aaron and said, 500 feet right up your guy's alley. I thought that was a good joke. - Not sure why I'm getting thrown in with this. - Yeah. - No, it's a little curve. But really, I thought the most interesting thing was 4th of July, they had a pontoon parade on Cole's Resort. - Oh yeah. - We got that up here. - And so my brother was like, hey, why don't you take out the boat on behalf of Cole's? You can drive it and we'll put the flag up on it

[64:30]and everything for you. And I was like, hell yeah, absolutely. So I go down and it turns out they don't have the damn flag up on the boat. What? So I drive out and all these boats have flags. American flags and stuff. And I'm supposed to have the Cole's flag on it. No flag on the back of my pontoon boat. - Oh no. - So we get in line. 17 boats was the max that I counted at one point. - Nice. - Really? And so Rob, maybe you could play pontoon

[65:00]by Little Big Town if you want. We get in line, we're near the back. We're kind of waiting. All these boats are kind of lingering, lingering. And then one starts the lead and everyone's following. And they're kind of, they're doing the thing. And they're pulling up close to shore where there are people like it, you know, swimming or on floating things or whatever. Boat in front of us and boat behind us. They are throwing stuff like treats that are in plastic bags. Like you would see at a regular parade. - Onto the water.

[65:30]- I joked about that. - Onto the water so like people can get candy or whatever in plastic bags. - That's a bad idea. - Water candies. I don't know if it's candy or, but like it was swag too. It was like stuff. - But then I got back and I chastised the owners of Cole's Resort for one, sending us out in a boat with no flag and two, sending us out with no swag. Like why didn't we have Cole's Resort swag to throw at the people on the beach?

[66:00]- We need can koozies. - Yeah, we needed something. - Can koozie is a great idea, man. If a pontoon boat flew by and threw some can koozies to me, I'd be like, is this heaven? That would be great. And on the back, they had a big flag. A flag of an upside down pineapple. And I was like, oh, that's that place down there where they have that funk fest every Sunday. - How many people are in Little Big Town? I can't tell from this video. - I know Aaron. This is why I don't play the videos. You get distracted by the videos every single time. - Of course I'm distracted by the video.

[66:30]I don't watch music videos regularly anymore. - Wow. - Wow. - That was when I was going with you, man. Unless you had something else. - No, I was just going to say bags. That's the big thing up here, corn hole, whatever you want. I'm going to call it. There's been, I'm up here for three weekends, two full weeks, three weekends, if that makes sense. They always play every Friday. Every Friday you go up to the building and they've got six courts going and round robin and score hole and all that stuff, right? - Crazy. - Haven't been able to play for two weeks.

[67:01]Some family decided to rent it out for their family reunion up there to have it. So then bags are canceled for that. And then stinking 4th of July fell on a Friday this year. So they decided not to do it. Everybody sets out fireworks all over the place. So I haven't had no bags. So tomorrow, that's why I said, can't record tomorrow because tomorrow will be the only time it gets my bags on this trip. - Shit. Wait, have you been practicing or have you not thrown a bag for it? - Oh yeah. I mean like we play all the time up here and stuff. - All right, all right. - So, but like the official Friday round robin tournament

[67:33]kind of a thing. Haven't been able to play. - There's nothing worse than like being up north at the cabin or something. And one of the things you're looking forward to and it just doesn't happen. That's the worst. - It's bad now. Now, Matt, what is the best you have finished in the bags tournament? Just so we have something to talk about at the end of the summer. - Didn't you win or didn't you beat some like pro or didn't you ruin the game for some pro last time? Or there was something last time where you messed something up. - I don't know. I think like at this, on the Friday, I don't know if I've ever, I don't remember if I've won. I know I took second a couple of times.

[68:01]That's really, it's a luck of the draw for your partners in that one. But then in the, at the, on Labor Day weekend, there's the big tournament where you pick your partner and everything. And I haven't gotten all that far in that one. I need a couple people's partners to like, you know, 'cause it's kind of friendly, right? So like if you're with, you're not changing partners just to try to win the tournament, you're gonna be with, so I'm with Pat next door, who's one of the Morellis kind of a thing.

[68:30]And so I'll be with him until one of us needs to find another partner or whatever. But it's not like you're angling to win the dang thing. It's just for fun. - You're not taking any NIL money? - Nope. - Okay. Well, that's good to hear. Listen. - Rob, rolling going, how's it going with you? - Listen, it is the summer. And so you know what that means? The piss on my shorts is out of control again this year. - What? - I have had multiple major incidents

[69:00]on my vacation in the airport. Once I'm in a grocery store in Mexico, I go to the bathroom, use the urinal, swear to God, did everything I could, got it all out, waistband down. Anything I'm thinking of, don't want to kink the hose, let's get it all out. Walk back in the store, immediately a half dollar size piss stain on my pants, and here's the problem. Here's the problem, low on my pants. Now, guys who have my problem know, when you go out,

[69:31]first you wear your pants low, so any piss stains are up high, so you can easily pull your shirt over it. This piss stain was low enough where it caused problems and was center enough where my normal pants, my normal pants, my normal pants were up high. So I had to wear my pants low. So I had to wear my pants low, and I had to wear my pants low, and I had to wear my pants low, and I had to wear my pants low, and I had to wear my pants low, and I had to wear my pants low, and I had to wear my pants low, and I had to wear my pants low, and I had to wear my pants low, and I had to wear my pants low, and I had to wear my pants low, and I had to wear my pants low, and I had to wear my pants low, and I had to wear my pants low, and I had to wear my pants low, and I had to wear my pants low,

[70:00]and I had to wear my pants low, so I had to disguise it, knowing guys will know what's going on, ladies probably not, because what kind of person would be gross enough to pull this stunt? Unfortunately, the same thing happened to me at the airport. Had to walk through the airport with my children, with a pee stain. Guys, what is going on? Are you guys, is this happening to anybody else? Why does this happen to me year after year? Oh, actually, I know what the conclusion of my story was. So in conclusion, and I, listen, I did send a picture to Aaron and you guys of my bald spot,

[70:30]because I'm feeling old, my bald spot on a picture my kid took fishing was insane. I am legitimately have a bald spot and it's fine. I'm fine with it, but it was crazy how big it was. Yeah, I know. I, from the front, I feel like I'm the Fonz. From the back, Mr. Hooper from Sesame Street, crazy. Now, great bald guy pull, or Gordon. Now, here's the thing. I have started stopping at the sink when I go into a bathroom, getting a little piece of paper towel

[71:01]and bringing it with me to the urinal. - What? - And at the end, giving a little dab and throwing that in the garbage on the way out. - Are you sure you want this out there in the world? - I have never felt so old in my life. Things are going, I don't know what's happening with me. If anybody out there can call, leave a voicemail, let me know, what can I do to stop this? Please let me know. - I got a logistical question. - Okay. - Legit logistical question. - Eight inches. - Around. - Why not just go,

[71:31]into the shitter, not the urinal, go into the shitter, do your business there, where there's like toilet paper, instead of like grabbing something and, you know, why are we? - You just might not be a urinal guy. It might not work for you anymore. - Well, that's the other thing that's happening is sometimes when I don't even get a stain, there's splash back on me. So I don't even think I'm hitting the right place. I don't know what's going on. The urinals are a disaster. I cannot be a sit down guy at a public restroom. I can't do it. - Well, I think you don't have to sit. - It's too gross. - You don't have to sit. - You don't have to sit.

[72:00]- If you're a dab with paper towel guy at the urinal, then you're a sit down guy. - That's going to be on our t-shirt. - The choice has been made for you. - If you're a dab at the urinal guy, you're a sit down guy. - I would rather dab than sit down in a toilet in a public restroom. I would rather somebody sees me dab and gives me a look than sit down in a toilet. - You don't need to sit down. - I don't care. I'm not sitting in a public toilet. Absolutely not. - Can I give you a tip? - Stop playing with your-

[72:30]- Just a tip? - Your fucking phone at the urinal. - Yeah. - I would almost guarantee that as, that is 95% of what your issue is. - God, I forgot he's a- - That's probably where the splatter comes from. - I completely forgot, I wish I could. - Where am I supposed to go where I don't get splatter? - You've got two hands for a reason. - I go to the bottom. Am I not supposed to hit the bottom? - If you- - But you go straight out and splatters. Where are you going? - You have two hands for a reason. - If you're asking this question as a 45 year old, Rob, there's no hope. - Can you guys just help me? I didn't have this problem at Old Main. - It's because you look

[73:00]at your phone at the urinal and you're not getting your stuff tucked away right and all that. - 98%. - Let's think of another solution. Okay, let's think of any other solution other than me not looking at my phone at the urinal. - I don't know enough science about this stuff, but is it because you're not clipped? Is that part of the problem too? - Oh, 100%, 100%. But I'm not going to fiddle with it before all this and like make it look like the dune sandworm, no way. - Hey, he's not going to do all this. He's a sit down guy. He's the guy who's got his legs crossed

[73:31]and there's a line for the stalls and there's like four or five wide open urinals and he can't use them. - You know what? But it turns out I am a sit down guy. I, hmm. - See? - I think, you know what? Hey, sit down guys out there. It's not not manly to be a sit down guy. You can be a real man. Listen, I'm almost a world champion power lifter. I mean, Matt, how strong am I? - You're a lot stronger than we think. - And I sit down to pee. Men, join me into saying loud and clear. I sit down to pee.

[74:00]It does not make me less of a man. - The other thing I think- - My phone, I can use two hands on my phone. I can type so much faster. - Rob, I also think, I don't think there are that many people in the world like at an airport or somewhere else that are looking at people's crotches anyways. Like, I don't think I would even notice if you had the problem, if it happens to you, like it's probably happened to all of us. Like, shit happens. - You wouldn't notice if somebody came out of the bathroom with a quote. Like, a quarter size dark spot on the front of their shorts.

[74:33]- I'm with Russell on this. I don't think, yeah, I would not notice one bit. - Can I just say from your mouth to God's ears, I pray that's true, okay? I do, I pray that's true. That would solve a lot of stress. 'Cause I'll tell you right now, you got five minutes. You gotta do something for five minutes and then it just goes away. It's like a, it's like a ShamWow. It's crazy. - How many people do you see walking around the airport that have piss stains? Like, I don't know. - That's the thing. - I don't think I, yeah. - I could not, I could not, yeah. - I could not think of one situation

[75:00]where I've seen that 'cause I'm not looking for it. - Hey, we are Legion. We could be everywhere out there. You wouldn't even know it. Guys, this is great. You guys are making me feel so much better. Thank you. - No, but I'm asking you, how many people do you see every time you're in the airport with piss stains? - None, zero. - Liam Neeson. - Well, sometimes one. The other day was me. I looked in the mirror to check where the piss stain was. - Liam Neeson should be a sit-down guy. - Okay, that's it. We're looking again. - He's a sit-down guy. - Liam Neeson, by the way, Liam Neeson coming out with a new movie. Have you guys seen the trailer for this?

[75:31]The Naked Gun. All I could think about, Liam Neeson pee pants. My dad's computer, it's a purple link. Maybe he looks at his phone when he's in the urinal too. I mean, guys, look at him. This one is just solid piss. It's the whole way up and down. See, I don't look like that. I don't even look like that. That's too big. These are all too big. These look like he got stabbed. Looks terrible. - I think Scottie Pippen just had a picture come up. I think Scottie Pippen just had a picture come out. Resurface. - Finally, we're getting somewhere with this podcast.

[76:04]God, we're about to blow up. Scottie Pippen, gotta hit it with your pee pants. All right, let's look at the search. Yup, there it is. He is hanging out with some attractive. Now, this is bad. This is a bad picture. - That's not a pee pants. That's like he sat in a wet chair or something. - Russell, Russell, you guys, Occam's Razor, you guys want to make every excuse for yourself, right? Use for Scottie Pippen. You think everything Scottie Pippen's ever done is so great.

[76:30]Okay? Oh, I love that he fucked Michael Jordan's kid or whatever. - Whoa. - Okay? Or no, what was it? I got that wrong. - I think his ex-wife slipped her hair. - Reverse that. Michael Jordan's kid. - Michael Jordan's kid fucked his ex-wife? - They're married. - Oh, I'll try this. I love when he threw the chair and went out of the game so Tony Kukoc could hit the game winner. - Yeah. - Now, that's pee, guys. And he's, you know what, Matt, to you for bringing me another pee pants picture,

[77:00]I salute you. This is a great day. Listen, we are talking about, what are we talking about? Oh, Heaven or Las Vegas, Cocteau Twins. - Oh, music. It's a music podcast. - Cocteau Twins. Did you guys expect to hear a female lead singer? I know I didn't. Never in my wildest dreams did I assume that this was what it was. I had no idea. Russell, I did like Russell this time. I read the Wikipedia before, so I wasn't that surprised when I heard. This is what they call, - No. - Dream pop. This is like a whole new genre. It's kind of, I think it's similar to shoegaze, right?

[77:32]A little bit, but it's got a lot like, what have we heard, Portishead? There's some drivel on that episode, I remember. My Bloody Valentine, right? I mean, the female singer, dreamy guitars. You can't really hear what's going on. I know, I mean, Aaron, how would you classify this album? - I think dream pop is, I wouldn't have thought of that. It made me think of Kate Bush. Is that just being reductive? Is that like, oh, it's a lady singer, so it's Kate Bush? I don't know, but- - No, I think it's a good, I think it's a good-

[78:01]- I wouldn't have given it a classification. You're right, like Cocteau Twins sounds like the most like British dude band name of all time. I was like, oh, it's gotta be British dudes. And then, I mean, I guess they're from the UK, but it's- - And I thought it was gonna be like Hard Electronica. That's what I figured is it'd be like Autobahn. Now listen, this band was formed, this album comes out in 1990. This band forms in '79. It's a Scottish band. Finally, after like their fifth album, 1988, they signed with Capitol, and they come out, this is their second album on Capitol,

[78:30]and it's by far their most commercially successful. It's so successful, it got up to number seven on Russell's favorite chart, the UK chart. - Yeah, we gotta talk about this. I saw where they- - In Switzerland as well. - Did you see where they got on the US charts? - 99 on the Billboard top 200. - Hey, I can tell you where my ranking is now. This is a fun album. What the fuck? If you get ranked, you get to 99 in your- - In your year, you can't be on this list. That's ridiculous.

[79:00]This would be like, if we were talking baseball, it'd be like, let's talk twins. It'd be like, man, Al Newman played a bunch of positions in one game, so he's a better player than former MVP, Miguel Tejada. Get the fuck out of here. - That's crazy. - There's no way. - What rhymes with Tejada? Matt, you're gonna get that joke at the end of the podcast. Now listen, this also- - 99. - My favorite quote from this album is basically the vocalist Elizabeth Frazier, was married to the guitarist, Robin Guthrie.

[79:30]And part of what was happening in this album is that she was going through pregnancy and birth. And she said that, and this is a quote in from Wikipedia, "The husband's cocaine habit escalated "during the recording process for the album before. "However, the couple believed that the new baby "would prove a diversion from Guthrie's dependency "and allow the pair to play happy family." Now, those of us that have had kids, is there any way that you are hooked on sweet Columbian blow? And a baby comes along and you say, "Oh, I'll stop doing this thing that makes me feel much better

[80:02]"and has me forget about my life." Is there anything about a baby that would make your drug problems better? - You use fewer chemicals? I don't think so, not me. - Can you imagine? Whatever I'm doing, triple it when that baby comes. Oh, big time. So let's get into the Cocteau Twins. Now, if you notice, no research on these songs. Why? I go to Genius. The Cocteau Twins, even though they disbanded two years after this album, they have sued Genius and taken down all their lyrics

[80:33]and everything. So I have zero research. - Yeah, the lyrics were hard to find. I was looking for an opening thing and- - Really hard to find. - I clicked on like azlyrics.com and I had to like click to approve that I was a human. I was like, nope, I'm out. - That's suspicious, Russell. Now I'm suspicious. Do you know the name John Connor? Does that ring a bell? - That's true. - Exactly. - Murphy. - Someone who's not a human would say. - You wonder if RoboCop,

[81:00]if he had to find all those stoplights, if he could find like half of them. You know what I mean? Are you human? And he can click. - What? - Which one? Well, he's half human, half robot, Russell, but you know what he's all of? - He just wears his car. It's like, well, but is it the whole car? Or is it just a car? Is it like part of the car? What if it's just a little tail light? - Exactly. Russell, he's all cop though. That's what he is. This is "Cherry Colored Funk". Now listen. - Shoegazy. - Oh, I hear that, the shoegazy guitar sound. Yeah. - What were you thinking before you heard Dream Pop?

[81:31]Like what were you thinking this was? Just kind of an eighties? - Like how would I classify it, you mean? - Yeah. - Like, yeah, I guess I would have just said like eighties guitar rock. I mean, it's interesting you said "My Bloody Valentine", because the other band that made me think of right away was the Ray Bonettes, who I know took a lot from "My Bloody Valentine". And nobody knows the Ray Bonettes except for my brother. I don't expect this. It's like, oh, everyone should know them, but it's a band I really liked. And they were also, I'm sure, listening to Cocteau Twins.

[82:03]- You don't have to apologize for liking the band. You're in a safe place. We're not going to make fun of you for these weeks for liking some strange thing. - Well, I just sometimes bring something up and then you guys go like, "Oh yeah, everybody knows about that." And like, I realize in this case, it's a niche, you know, kind of thing, so. - Jesus, this must be a niche if you're saying it as niche. - One of the people that was influenced by them was Nigel Goodrich. And he was a producer and he ended up, being heavily influenced by them, their ambience and mood. And he went on to work with Beck. - Wow.

[82:30]- Okay. - And Beck kind of has that atmospheric sound on a lot of his sea change in "Morning Phase" once. So I kind of thought when it comes to being inspired indirectly by the Ying Yang Twins, who did it better? - Beck did it better. - Russell, that was good. I actually liked that. Now, okay, next up. Okay, speaking of Frank Viola, "Pitch the Baby." There's actually an article about how

[83:00]My Bloody Valentine and the Cocteau Twins are the ones that conducted these lawsuits because their lyrics showed up on Spotify and they were just wrong. And it pissed them off. So much so the Cocteau Twins, who all hate each other, got together and said, "We're not allowing our lyrics." And it turns out, you know why they had to release lyrics in the first place? You cannot release a CD in Japan without listing the lyrics. - Oh. - They will not allow it. - Oh. - To be released. So that's why a lot of these bands like this have the lyrics that you don't, you know, they're hard to find, but yet they show up.

[83:31]Now, Russell, this song peaked all the way up at 38 on the UK singles. I also wrote "Big in Switzerland," so I had that joke ready to go. - This sounds so much like ABBA. I was like, these guys sound like ABBA so much on this track. I had to like double check I was listening to the right thing. - I hear what you're saying exactly. So why, is ABBA on the list? Because they got the greatest hits, or what? - ABBA's on the list, for sure. I've seen it before. This is a Scottish band, actually.

[84:03]It's one of the greatest, a lot of people consider it one of the great Scottish bands. Oh, damn, if I had more time, I would've made a list of the best Scottish bands. Ah, fuck that up. Maybe I'll do it in the next episode. 50/50 Clown. - Are the Proclaimers Scottish? - That's what I was thinking too, Aaron. It sounds like it does. If not, it's kind of stolen the valor a little bit. - Yeah. - Matt, can you see if the Proclaimers are Scottish? Can you just? - Yeah, Matt should look 'cause when I look, I get distracted by the list of people

[84:30]from Port Arthur, Texas. This is gonna fucking blow your guys' mind. - Lately, I've been seeing on TikTok that people are having parties where they are inviting things like magicians. I propose that we get together for like four weeks, or for like four days, and record like eight episodes at the beginning of the summer. What if I hired a magician one night to come in, like a real professional magician to do a magic show for the four of us? Would that be cool? - Right, cool. - I can't talk. ♪ I can't talk ♪ ♪ I can't talk ♪ ♪ I can't talk ♪ ♪ I can't talk ♪ ♪ I can't talk ♪ - Proclaimers are a Scottish band.

[85:00]They're a Scottish rock duo formed by twin brothers, Craig and Charlie Green. - Wow. - So we got some more twins. - Scottish twins. - Another great one. Scott, Franz Ferdinand, "Take Me Out." - Oh, "Take Me Out." - Ooh. - Ooh. - Ooh, boy, this is, I just realized I shouldn't have said this 'cause I'm making a lot of work for Future Rob. Hey, sorry, Future Rob. - Stop. - Annie Lennox? - Future Rob, look at that. - Annie Lennox. - Wow. - Wow. Ooh, we really should be on a great Scottish band list. - Wow. - Calvin Harris? - Nice, I was gonna do this next.

[85:30]Oh, this is so good. Next up, "The Titular Track." Karen, you know I love it. When in the middle of an album, I get to... - "The Titular Track." - I'm not gonna lie, it's not the biggest titular track I've ever seen. This is not. These are on the small side. - Simple minds, don't you? ♪ Don't you ♪ - Yep, well, that's, so let me tell you. - The Bay City Rollers? - Cock-toe. - Cock-toe? - Oh. - S-A-T-U-R-D-O-I-9. The Cock-toe Twins, Russell, were named the Cock-toe Twins because that was the name of the band

[86:00]that A Simple Mind had originally. They'd kinda named themselves after A Simple Mind, another Scottish band. And that's how I made this list of the greatest Scottish bands. Let's do it right now. - Did he say, "The Proclaimers, I'm gonna be 500 miles"? - Yep, that's how far they're gonna walk. - Twin brothers. - Russell, can I ask, can I ask you this, Russell? The Twin, The Proclaimers on that song, say something like, by the way, I wear your ring. Well, Russell, something to think about here. Not your cock ring, Russell.

[86:32]Did your microphone cut out? I saw you mouth the words. Now, what was I saying? Oh, when The Proclaimers say, "Havering," are they saying, what are they saying? Are they saying, "Havering"? When I'm havering, I'm havering to you. What is the lyric there? - I don't, yeah, I don't know. - You have to sing, you have to sing "Havering." - Of course. - When I haver. - Haver. - When I haver humphy, I'm gonna haver, haver. - I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be the man who's havering to you,

[87:01]but I don't know what they're saying. - My house. - And if I haver, yeah, I know I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be the man who's havering to you. - It's a Scottish word meaning to talk nonsense, to babble, or to waffle. - Oh. - It does mean to dither, but in the constance of this song, it means to make small talk or talk rubbish, basically. - Havering. - Hm, hm. It's the same for a podcast, think about it. Hey, Aaron. - And it says, if I gab on, well, you know I'll still be the man

[87:30]chatting away beside you. Do you want to do "Proclaimers," did it better with me, Aaron? - Oh, yeah. - Or, we could be colon havering. - Havering. - We'd get to this album, we'd be like, we'd do all the albums again, Aaron, but through the lens of the "Proclaimers." - Ah, but in a havering style. - Holy shit, that's a great idea. - Let's go, let's start tonight. - Okay, Matt, you can be part of it, too. I saw your mouth, and I think your microphone's broken. Fotsalpolitik. - What?

[88:00]- I don't know, guys, let me die. - Hey, Rob, for the write-up, we have to have something about the 250th greatest album, "Havering" or "Las Vegas." - You've done it again, Russell. Just like Homer Simpson's boss, Mr. Dithers. - No, we don't have to. Wolf in the Breast, okay? Now, of course, this reminds me of when a student of mine drew a tattoo that he wanted to get

[88:32]of an animal ripping out of his skin. And it said, "The Beast Within," but his handwriting was so bad that it looked like "The Breast Within." He was showing everybody, and everybody would say, "The Breast Within?" What is this? - It's going on there. - What is this album, guys? What's going on with our lives? - I got a breast tattoo story. - Oh, yeah? - I got a tattoo like two weeks ago, three weeks ago. And there was another person in there getting a full back,

[89:02]getting their full back piece work done. And this person was, it was, I don't know if they were trans or non-binary or what exactly. And so they sort of had the look of like an adolescent boy, but I think they were not adolescent. So they, you know, they're getting their back piece done. And like, you know, they stand up a couple of times, like they're gonna- - It's giving me the ultimate, Aaron, just give me a second. Aaron's giving me the ultimate challenge for a joke. I will find a joke with this story. - Let's not, I will. - The joke, don't worry, the joke's coming. - I'm gonna thread the needle, Russell. Don't worry, I'm gonna lay on this plane.

[89:31]- So they're, they're lying on their stomach getting the back piece done. And then they get to have a cigarette and like throw on a sweatshirt or whatever, and then come back. And then, so they finished and the artist says, okay, like we're, you know, I think we're done. Like whatever, you know, hit me up if you, if anything goes wrong or, you know, whatever. And then they stand up and she was wearing like a tape over her breasts, right? And so she's like, ah, maybe I'll take this off. She goes, ah, you know what? These aren't gonna get sucked anytime soon. So I'll just leave it on. And like, I heard it. And then, and then the, her artist, their artist goes,

[90:02]well, yeah, I guess if you're gonna get your titties sucked, take them off. And then everybody's like, what the fuck is he saying? Can't believe he said that. And he's like, they said it first. Like I was just responding to what they said. - That is like the don't, you, at that point, are you like, they're filming me? I'm on a YouTube show. They're looking to see how fast I look over when they say this. - That's right. - Aaron. - I love the tattoo shot, man. - Meanwhile, Aaron's walking out of the bathroom, dabbing himself at the urinal, so he doesn't come out with a nickel pea spot on his shorts.

[90:31]- Aaron, if you hear somebody say that again, you should be like, hey, listen, I don't ever do this, but I got a podcast you would love. I know something you would just think is great. - I'm not out here trying to promote my podcast, but you would like the jokes. - The three R's I love the most, road, river, and rail. No joke. - No, I can see having this album on in the background. It's pleasant. It's kind of unique and interesting. - No doubt. - I'd add this to my collection for a fair price.

[91:03]- It's kind of a making love album. I'm not gonna lie. - Ooh, I like it. - But guys, at any point, were you listening to this album and you kind of questioned like the podcast existence? Like, was it like a, did you kind of have an ET moment where you were like, why would we do that? - I don't know. - I know if we met, it's not gonna do it. the last song you jump about two minutes in when it catches fire this song this this song is a banger

[91:30]frou-frou foxes a little bit of a summer ask you this were you super high listening this album this sounds like you might have been super high the first part where it jumps up go take it there you go oh oh damn it

[92:03]i don't think you're actually okay i i thought this was a jam i like the layers of the sound yeah i thought this song was fantastic god russell we all find our minds sometimes we're overhaving so much we find something we love well that takes us back to the original inception of this podcast was learning new stuff and

[92:32]expanding our minds and where did we go terribly wrong aaron where did this go terribly wrong couldn't have been the dick jokes hey rob we know where we're terribly wrong it was when you detailed your urinal issues is this our jump the shark moment everything from here is downhill yeah i don't know i feel like the podcast picks up when you guys are making fun of me i feel like that's a strong it's almost like i'm projecting sometimes oh well it can't be me do you guys know

[93:07]what a freudian slip is it's when you say one thing and you mean your mother and that's unrelated to what's happened over to me over the last two days let's get into our favorite part of the list which is talking about the list itself does this the cocteau twins heaven or las vegas does this belong at album 245 okay if it does that would be a rolling well tone it is perfectly in here it

[93:33]belongs right here if it should be higher on the list of course meaning a lower number okay some people would say hey my kids are doing 360s kneeboarding well this album is doing a 245 in my head today as i was listening to it lifting weights by the way not the greatest album to live weights too or is this a rolling groan we did not like this album it should be lower on the list or maybe it just doesn't belong on this list but doesn't mean it's

[94:00]bad okay let's keep that in mind if maybe people are listening and they're going to give us an apple itunes review which by the way you can't delete and it says that we are not good at talking about shoegaze bands that would be a real bummer what do we think rolling well-toned rolling bone or rolling grown russell what do you think i'm going to give it a 10 out of 10 i'm going to give russell what do you think this is nonsense i i i go back to this this is 1990 right this isn't when we were kids i've never heard of the band before never heard of them you're

[94:33]going to go back and tell me history down the road you're going to say hey what what did you think of the cocteau twins when you were 10 years old i'd be like i if you've never heard of them they can't be this high on the list i get they might be influential for people and i like that frou-frou fox song at the end but this this is this is silliness the bands we have not heard of from yet the artists we've not heard from yet get the fuck out of here this is way too high rolling grown aaron rolling well-toned rolling boned or rolling grown yeah i don't i don't like

[95:05]i don't like giving this one a rating because i i really enjoyed it but uh we haven't heard dukey yet uh we've got like now we've got some really cool stuff coming up i just don't see how this is better than some of the things that we've heard of so i'm going to give it a 10 out of 10 i don't that are coming immediately after it um so i enjoyed it i'll probably listen again but i'm still going to give it a rolling grown uh matt what do you think rolling well-toned rolling bone or rolling grown i wish we would have taken like five minutes to go through the albums that are

[95:35]what are we at here 245 246 to 300 and just see if we could find one album that this album is better than i mean we've got american idiot by green and whitney houston by whitney houston we've got we've got a run monkey chateau by elton john i'm gonna we got the um the freewheeling bob jones what the the movie was about that's 255

[96:01]we've got a coat of many colors dolly parton pearl by janice chapel yeah we yeah janice i'm gonna keep going wish you were here by pink floyd we've got you know the birds sweet arbor rodeo we've got the bends my favorite radio head album and of course we've got the at uh three or 294 we've got weezer by weezer let me just i'm with russell i don't know how this is here i sure it's a great album for what it was but it seems like such a little niche part of the

[96:32]music genre that i just i can't believe it's up here so i'm gonna say it's rolling unfortunately you guys are incorrect shit this gets a this album gets a rolling scott loaned i've never listened to this band but i am part scottish so i love it it makes me want to wear kilt so i won't have so much p in my pants so obviously it's good i talked about that for the roll it going because that was my follow-up bit 1990 the album that stayed at the top of the 200

[97:00]the longest please hammer don't hurt them by mc hammer put that on the list yeah let's get that on the list a thousand times better do you think a hundred times better yes like totally you're right i'm gonna say it's a good album i'm gonna say it's a good album i'm gonna say it's a good uh next up don't call it a comeback we've literally been doing this podcast for years it's mama said knock you out by ll cool j and all the other songs we know off that album that would be my first cd ever first cd i ever bought really yes

[97:31]we're going back to the rap album inspired russell to be part of that neighborhood rap i remember one of the weird ones on this is the song milky cereal where there's just some woman singing about milky cereal cereal in like a seductive way wow i've got the perfect part can i play one thing before you turn off your recording did it better guys you know jack morris had a hammer you just know it cactus jack makes sense when when tom kelly came out to take him on the 10th he goes i've got a haver in

[98:04]to get these last three hours wow it's time to say goodbye oh let me tell you now oh my god that was so long that goes on for so long all right man let's let's play this song we played we're gonna win twins

[98:43]Minnesota athletes have filled us with awe

[99:03]but some of them have run afoul of the law let's go through a list to see what they all have to say about us let's go through a list to see what they all have to say about us let's go through a list to see what they all have to say about us let's go through a list to see what they all have to say about us let's go through a list to see what they all have to say about us let's go through a list to see what they all have to say about us

[99:43]let's go through a list to see what they all have to say about us remember when number 84 was the boss there was one receiver like randy moss the number of times he made those highlight shows