D’Angelo: Voodoo (2000)

[00:00]in 2020 four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums as decided by

[00:04]rolling stone magazine this resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music excoriated the

[00:09]order and led us to making this podcast we are far from experts and we promise to do almost no

[00:14]research all opinions are our own unless you disagree please sit back and enjoy back did it

[00:20]better listen up uh guys i've got uh i've got my crank up radio here i've been cranking this thing

[00:25]all day long so it is charged up let's get started i thought we were going to talk about

[00:30]cranking i know that's right we are going to set so i've got some goals for the podcast we'll talk

[00:35]about it after this intro just let me crank it a little bit more all right here we go so

[00:39]off to a great start we're good we're good to go here here we go

[00:42]oh i love this song like a jam we want pie up front on the stove from the sky

[00:51]watch us all fly to ny for a slice of jenny's pie

[00:55]cherries apples ripe with time bring them all to ny to be part of jenny's pie

[01:06]this is too basic i want more junior mints candy corn swedish fish knickers bars throw it all into

[01:15]jenny's pies sour patch kids juju bees mike and nikes sugar babies bag of skittles hot tamales

[01:25]all

[01:25]nice what the hell is this all about how can this be makes me shout a pie with candy i'd rather die

[01:35]bring me a real fucking pie

[01:37]french silk raspberry pecan date gooseberry please bring me some actual pie i'm so hungry right now

[01:49]huckleberry i'll even take a little ice cream please don't mess

[01:55]greatness please just bring me some real pie

[01:58]fall in line fall in line for a slice of actual pie

[02:03]a slice of real fucking pie

[02:08]i'd rather die for a slice of real pie

[02:14]fall in line for a slice of real pie

[02:19]oh my god when you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time

[02:25]if you want to hear from guys who chat and then they get off track

[02:35]i've got the perfect podcast for you jack that makes no sense to anybody

[02:42]you just gotta roll with it that's one of the one of the pluses of you not listening

[02:49]is you can make all these jokes

[02:50]right

[02:50]welcome everybody to the therapeutic davenport

[02:55]of love just here for you freaks who want this exclusive content hanging out here with us and

[02:59]with me i've got three guys who are pretty much the opposite of d'angelo in every single way i

[03:04]can possibly think of let's say hello we've got russ in minnesota russ how are you doing

[03:08]i hope our our listeners are enjoying this podcast and stereo from the left and to the right the back

[03:14]the middle and the front pump it up in the club a little bit of rub a dub i know you love us because

[03:19]we're funky we just want to show you some love i'm assuming those are lyrics from this album

[03:24]which i understood none of for the whole time i'm assuming those are lyrics from this album which i

[03:24]understood none of for the whole time i'm assuming those are lyrics from this album which i understood none of for the whole time

[03:25]so i'm gonna assume that's a great job

[03:27]matt minneapolis how are you doing matt uh doing excellent i thought i'd get in on this uh

[03:32]lyric game here oh i love it drugs and thugs women wind three or four at a time watch them

[03:40]all stand in line to listen to beck did it better yeah oh yeah happy to be here rob

[03:47]and i got aaron out in california aaron how are you doing i don't like when matt brings

[03:52]all this energy at the beginning of the podcast it makes me uncomfortable makes me

[03:55]tired i'm tired don't make me do it guys because if we're gonna do lyrics from the album you know

[04:00]i'm gonna want to go you know i'm gonna want to go straight to lila set your on fire so there's

[04:04]already our bleep joke of the week well there we go we just talked about it five minutes ago

[04:09]we talked about this we had a state of the podcast and a state of the podcast address is always a

[04:15]time where i take the guys and i just give them a little spank and i'm like listen this is when

[04:18]you've talked over me this is when you haven't laughed at my jokes this is how we're gonna fix

[04:21]the podcast so i'm just gonna tell everybody right now i'm gonna try to talk more slowly

[04:25]and we're going to embrace the pregnant pause

[04:27]yeah i don't like that at all and we are going to try to be less dirty so here we go we are not

[04:35]off to a great start on that but we are going to do it from here on out i'm going to rub off the

[04:38]whiteboard we have gone zero minutes without a dirty joke all right so i don't like i don't

[04:43]like when my pauses cause pregnancy i don't like pregnant pauses i don't like that at all

[04:47]yeah normally pauses cause people to not get pregnant but it's so okay so i'm going to rub

[04:52]off the whiteboard one more time and now from now on now i'm now i'm going to rub off the whiteboard

[04:55]now i'm serious about this here we go all all right so let's get right into it today we are

[05:00]talking oh i didn't even say what album we're talking about today we are talking about d'angelo's

[05:04]voodoo and it is number 20 but anyway we got a voicemail let's go to the beck line

[05:11]hey boys this is sarah from minnesota that sounds a little familiar calling in i just

[05:19]listened to your carol king episode and had a couple of things to react to

[05:25]um she sounds nervous so glad to hear more match yes please match um well it seems like a plant

[05:33]has been pretty quiet the last few episodes so i loved hearing i would say only about the last 35

[05:38]or so hey that's fred's calling you to say i'm excited to hear more bad but cuts absolutely

[05:45]totally remember butt cuts thank you sarah them at the time see butt cut it is a real thing guys

[05:52]i told you that's a real phrase people know it

[05:55]my wife yelled at me she goes you know all of these people from richfield that had butt cuts

[06:00]and we called them but i'm like i don't know i don't is your wife listening to the podcast or

[06:05]not yes she is it's not good that sarah this sarah you wonder why i've been quiet the last

[06:12]few episodes because all of a sudden my wife's listening so i've got to clean it up my favorite

[06:18]thing is how matt's wife would initially proclaim she wanted nothing to do to listen listening to

[06:23]four random white dudes talking to each other and i'm like i don't know what to do with that

[06:25]talking about their lives and now she's one of our our dedicated listeners and yet matt doesn't

[06:29]even know that we've cut out major sections of the previous podcast in his intro song

[06:34]dang parody song means nothing it turns out she doesn't like four white guys but when it's just

[06:39]three and a half because matt barely says anything she loves that she thinks that's great

[06:42]all right let's keep going with the voicemail here totally remember butt cuts thank you sarah

[06:49]supported them at the time going back to college for just a day i'd go for a week

[06:55]without a doubt um hearing the song wrecking ball before

[07:01]huh what i've had um numerous comments to this rosie completely baffled by that

[07:12]anyways tuesdays are my best days because i get to see a new episode from you guys

[07:17]popping up on my feed thanks for all the laughs and jim horn for life all right thank you for

[07:24]back with more jim horn i can tell you the listeners are way back from where we're recording

[07:30]guys because she's talking about stuff i cannot remember talking about in the least with between

[07:34]butt cuts and then wrecking ball and uh jim horn i multi-instrumentalists of course very famous so

[07:40]positivity positivity we're the new positive podcast

[07:43]you know what time it is it's time to make fun of aaron oh yeah don't worry he likes it

[07:54]uh i don't own a microwave still i can't believe it still the idea that you don't own a microwave

[08:02]every time i open my microwave i think to myself what does aaron do in this situation what's worse

[08:07]the fact he doesn't own a microwave or that he's never he never heard uh wrecking ball

[08:11]what's more baffling wrecking ball my microwave i mean that's yeah i don't understand how i never

[08:16]heard that one have you listened to wrecking ball since then have you have you checked it out i've

[08:20]not i've i'll be honest i've not no because i'm listen we're going to talk about this in real and

[08:24]very focused on this run how do we how do we make fun of aaron for not knowing wrecking ball when

[08:29]literally i've never heard of d'angelo and he's got the 29th greatest album of all time so i don't

[08:33]think we can make fun of aaron for not knowing wrecking ball aaron is buying parts to his record

[08:38]player to help him listen to d'angelo and at the same time he has not listened to wrecking ball

[08:42]it's true it's very strange i'm guilty let's get into making fun of aaron by the way this is what

[08:45]aaron said that i just have one five second clip and i want to bring this up is this isn't so much

[08:49]making fun of aaron i just want to peer more into this we do actually hang our um what

[08:54]laundry from the ceiling but that's not that interesting let's keep going now during you

[08:59]cannot hear that last week's show because we both talked over him and then ignored him after he said

[09:03]that but i aaron i gotta hear what the fuck are you doing hanging laundry up like are you are you

[09:07]laura's ingles wilder what is your deal we do have a phrase ingles yeah it's plural this is a very

[09:15]cool shit i heard it on sesame street i think we've had this thing in two different places

[09:20]we've lived now and it's never fallen out of the ceiling it is this thing a dryer because if this

[09:24]thing is a dryer that you're talking about you do not need to hang them up you have to vent out

[09:31]sometimes you gotta go through the ceiling to vent it he's got like the 500 over the joists and

[09:36]i'm trying to hang he's got like a 500 pound drying machine hanging from the ceiling in his

[09:40]basement he's like we gotta hang this dryer up it's just like you can see like the beans just

[09:45]there's an anvil on the bottom i'm gonna start this dryer and then we immediately have to run

[09:53]out of the room because it starts to dry and then we immediately have to run out of the room because it starts to dry

[09:54]and then we immediately have to run out of the room because it starts to dry it's swinging like a son of a

[09:55]bitch in here i don't know how people use these things but i guess hang up your clothes is what

[09:59]i've heard it's swinging around like a helicopter and aaron's like ducking his head and running for

[10:03]this running for upstairs yeah so nothing about the truth is any better than the story you're

[10:09]telling but we do own and we've used it in two different places a very cool apparatus that is a

[10:15]sort of uh pulley lever kind of system that has a piece of uh you know rope that is uh you know

[10:22]connected to the

[10:24]clothes hanger situation and then that is bolted into the ceiling because we've always lived in

[10:29]small places and so you lower it down hang the clothes over it and then you hoist it up to the

[10:34]top and then you hook it around the little uh cleat that's in the wall to hang it up because

[10:39]like we got a lot of clothes that don't need drying like all your cycling clothes your exercise

[10:43]clothes these don't need to be dried your sweaters these need to be hung hang dry and we don't have a

[10:48]outdoor uh clothesline so we hang them up inside the house you also wash your clothes with like a

[10:54]or some sort of grate where you guys like sit outside and rub them against the stone or not

[10:58]it does not need to be cleaned in a real washing machine hanging from my ceiling

[11:05]so i'm just gonna go outside and scrub it against this rock for two hours

[11:09]no there's no hand washing for the most part i gotta say i gotta say aaron's story doesn't

[11:15]add up at all so his point is that he has a small house okay we've established that aaron

[11:19]has a small house so he then fills it up with his clothes that are drying how does

[11:24]that make any sense like we're just supposed to say oh you have a small place so you'd hang up

[11:28]your clothes inside on the floor side note if we had a dog the dog would not be eating these

[11:34]underwear because they'd be hanging from the ceiling so it's a perfect solution rob i'll send

[11:39]you one so do you do you own a dryer yes we own a dryer yeah but some stuff this whole thing's

[11:45]fucked then this whole conversation is messed up i don't get it some clothes are just better to not

[11:50]go in the dryer they last longer they you know your stuff doesn't shrink up too short like in

[11:54]your you know waffle cut uh long sleeves you know like those things shrink up too short and

[12:00]all of a sudden you get midriff shirts if you throw them in the dryer too many times you guys

[12:03]understand i think that's why you gotta go champion reverse sleeves yeah well i'd not see

[12:07]i'm still working i'm building up i'm building up my collection hey rob i think we already have

[12:11]our make fun of aaron material i was gonna come i was gonna come back to it i was gonna come back

[12:15]to it well here what maybe can i can i chime into it because i think i know what you've got

[12:20]okay first of all you chiming in about anybody doing the wash is totally fucked i just want to

[12:24]but yes i will allow you to speak us and i are the only normal wash guys on this podcast do

[12:29]the laundry i just don't fold the laundry no one has to put it i get the laundry done

[12:35]and we're embracing the pregnant pause

[12:39]you guys don't even want to know what just happened over here during that

[12:44]don't wait for the joke and don't talk about how i spilled some diet coke on my shirt here

[12:50]and all that shows up on the zoom i don't need to hear that either okay visual joke nine months

[12:54]before you guys well it really i mean really it's like 10 months because 40 weeks is closer to 10

[13:02]months than nine months it's kind of the that's true you know i'll let you know luckily i did

[13:06]my pregnant pause four weeks ago it's nine months also appropriate for this album i can't believe i

[13:15]spilled diet coke on the shirt well well better hang it from the ceiling i mean that doesn't make

[13:19]any sense i'm gonna send you guys a picture and then you're gonna be jealous you're gonna want one

[13:23]of these apparatus they're really they're they say oh please please do i can't imagine what a

[13:28]clothing line looks like i mean what are you talking about like aaron i gotta ask you like

[13:33]when i've come i've came out and visited you you and your wife a few times over the last you know

[13:37]five ten years or whatever i've probably been out there three two three times or whatever

[13:40]yeah when i show up do you guys like hide all this stuff because you're like oh russell's gonna

[13:45]lose his shit if he sees like all our clothes hanging from the ceiling do you hide you hide

[13:49]this deviant behavior that you guys have out there no

[13:53]i mean i this might be funny too i mean the clothes hang in our bedroom and i guess we

[13:58]didn't invite you into our bedroom when you came out to visit so maybe some friends you are maybe

[14:04]we should have maybe we should have really taken our friendship to the next level guess what russell

[14:08]you come visit me in new york the first place we're gonna go is my bedroom okay i'm gonna show

[14:13]you that my better friend than aaron for sure i promised i will not show your wife the pregnant

[14:19]pause i won't do it

[14:23]pregnant pause all right so this is this is not a sustainable bit we cannot keep going all right

[14:30]so now that we're 50 minutes into this podcast for the pauses

[14:34]it's time to see what everybody's up to it's time for rolling going oh yeah i picture aaron like

[14:48]getting to his bed and he's like going through it's like the jungle you know but it's just like

[14:52]a bunch of cycling shirts and sweatpants and stuff like that it's like a bunch of cycling shirts and

[14:53]sweaters and you know who knows what else you can't drive that's true that does happen because

[14:57]it's right off the corner where either you go through the jungle of clothes hanging from the

[15:02]top or you crank your aren't like your knee on the corner of the bed no yeah you know i mean you end

[15:08]up with a bruise in that corner anyway it's time to see what everybody's up to so you have you have

[15:13]so many clothes up that you run into the bed like you're just walking around blind honey keep keep

[15:19]clapping so i can find where the bed is like this makes absolutely no sense i love how the

[15:23]water's just like dripping all over his bed and everything like they just got puddles of water

[15:27]from their hanging clothes and okay while the dryer's down there hanging by itself

[15:32]once i go into the room because it's usually dark my lady goes to bed before i do usually

[15:37]maybe this is too much information you might have to cut this out nice work uh i like to

[15:42]try to get into my side of the bed with my eyes closed like i like to walk into the bedroom and

[15:46]see if i can make it with my eyes i don't know why oh no be quiet i'm gonna play this on a loop

[15:53]for the rest of the podcast oh shut up shut up so what you now now i'm not i'm just gonna point

[16:01]this out what what aaron said is not that he gets into bed with his eyes closed and i didn't listen

[16:07]to why and i don't care what aaron said was what i like to do is i like to try to get into the bed

[16:14]so he this is something he looks forward to he's like oh yes my wife is asleep i'm gonna

[16:18]oh what should i do i could do yeah i could do anything i want

[16:23]let's see what can i do i can go read some french poetry out in the tent in the garage

[16:26]i can rambo i can go downstairs and ignore the dryer or i can close my eyes and try to get into

[16:33]bed oh i know what i'm gonna do this is gonna be so fun oh wait i've got a sweater stuck around

[16:39]me help me help me help me it's a fascinating life that i lead i can't i can't lie about that

[16:47]hey back to the future volume two make fun of aaron

[16:53]it really is we could just shut this podcast down and do next week so we can do it right after this

[16:57]this is no problem whatsoever rolling go on rob how's it going with you why don't we start with

[17:01]you all right let's start let's start with me i do have a good one today because i felt very much

[17:05]like russell at the post office this week i had a number of experiences where i was like this is

[17:09]what russell feels like at the post office completely incompetent i got into i got into

[17:14]the elevator in my building and all of a sudden as the doors were closing this extremely attractive

[17:20]woman got on okay even with half

[17:22]a mask i could still tell she was very attractive and she got on or no she was on first and then i

[17:27]got in the elevator and she looked she was on first she was on first what do you mean by that

[17:31]well you wait to get on and then now the new thing is you kind of have to make sure people

[17:36]motion you on because getting on an elevator when people don't want you on the elevator is

[17:39]poor form so she's on the elevator i hop on she goes what floor are you going to i said seven

[17:46]she said okay she pushes nine she pushes seven she pushes nine very very nice great great

[17:52]except for i don't live on seven i live on 14 and i forgot okay the building i work in i work on the

[17:59]seventh floor so then she pushed seven and i was with the dog and i was like she was on nine so i

[18:05]was like well i can't just tell her like uh no actually it's 14 you know what i mean so i literally

[18:10]got off the elevator oh you gotta get off and then there's all these other people on the floor like

[18:17]putting away the recycling or doing stuff in their apartment so i had to get off look around and be

[18:21]and do the big like oh no and then push up and go back into 14 i'm like a fucking idiot

[18:26]did you at least wait for her to go back up you got off and wandered around right i got off because

[18:31]i was like what if yeah what if i push up and then get back on the same elevator that she's there so

[18:35]the door just closes and then it immediately opens up and i get back on i go what if what if she did

[18:39]the same thing rob and she screwed up and she was only supposed to be at four or five and she

[18:44]accidentally said nine and you said seven and it was just like it was meant to be so then the

[18:50]eight minutes later a few more false floors a pregnant pause later it was a grand old time huh

[18:57]maybe she got is doing a podcast right now where she's like listen this really attractive guy got

[19:02]in the elevator i got totally flustered i went to the wrong floor no no no no i don't i don't

[19:07]talk about that mustache i don't mean to burn it rob it didn't happen i was i was scared for my

[19:13]life i didn't know what to do i asked him what floor he told me seven and immediately looked

[19:18]very confused and didn't know what to do

[19:20]so then i also this week i ran out of deodorant okay and actually to be honest i ran out of

[19:26]deodorant about two months ago and i have been using my wife's deodorant now i don't think

[19:30]there's anything wrong with using your wife deodorant i think that is fair game i never ever

[19:34]tell her i would never tell her she'll be pissed if she ever listens to this podcast so i'm set for

[19:37]the rest of my life not worried about that and the uh so i i go down to the duane reed which is in my

[19:43]building right and i go to get the deodorant they now have the deodorant behind glass that you have

[19:50]to get the deodorant so i have to go like razor blades where you have to have a lock to get them

[19:54]out or what is that a deodorant i don't know i i don't know if they're so expensive but i have to

[19:58]go ask somebody what to unlock the deodorant and then i have to say to them uh yes i would like the

[20:04]you know must the extra sweaty man yeah i would like the musk bear smell shark man like superman

[20:11]deodorant like i because i'm telling you one of my favorite days of all time and i've said this

[20:16]all the time is growing up i love it when i run out of deodorant and i get to go pick a new type

[20:20]it's one of the highlights of my week well not week i don't buy deodorant that often but whenever

[20:24]i buy deodorant it's i love shopping because there's all these different fun kinds of deodorant

[20:29]and you can pick all these different things yeah i love it i think it's great i i i love all the new

[20:34]like super masculine flavors is that the right term like the flavors i hope it's not a flavor

[20:40]maybe a scent well anything's a flavor if you try hard enough rob are you a science teacher

[20:44]you don't know like the five senses listen i don't have time for teaching that stuff okay i'm much too

[20:50]at school listening to these albums um but it's so embarrassing because now i basically am not

[20:56]going to buy deodorant and in fact i went to another duane reed in manhattan it was also

[20:59]under glass so i just walked out i mean i i what else is under what else is under glass

[21:03]i don't know i think like oh you know laundry detergent is cigarettes like stuff that stuff

[21:11]that gets stolen what would be the most embarrassing thing you would have to ever go by and ask for them

[21:15]to open the glass to buy like is it condoms what would be the thing where you'd be terrified to go

[21:20]ask the lady that way and read to open the glass to open it for what right oh my god i would love

[21:25]to buy condoms and i'd be like what give me your smallest most normal size condoms that you have

[21:30]like that's what i want condoms are so big i get condoms sometimes i use it when i used to get

[21:35]condoms oh we weren't gonna do this we weren't gonna do this i was always like they're so big

[21:39]and then there's that little tip on the end i remember in health class they'd always be like

[21:42]oh make sure you squeeze that tip when you put it on otherwise yeah otherwise and i was like

[21:46]how much do you think is coming out like do you think there's so much coming out that if i

[21:50]don't squeeze that tip this whole thing's gonna fly off like a balloon like a water rocket like

[21:55]i was like this makes no sense like even then i was like squeeze the tip that doesn't even make

[21:59]how does that make any sense but that was like the one thing i remember from my health class

[22:02]was squeeze the tip but the other day i had to go in and aaron you might you might relate to this

[22:05]because you're talking about foot care do you guys have toenail fungus i've got to put some stuff on

[22:10]my toenails like hey hey rob maybe this was the other thing we shouldn't have talked about if we

[22:14]wanted to get listeners yeah this is a we should just cancel this now there's no there's no reason

[22:20]okay you guys can toenail shame me all you want but all it does is make your toenails like a little

[22:23]yellow and a little thicker you know like old man toenails so i get a thing where i brush it on and

[22:27]then my toenails are totally healthy so then if you have something that's fixing this problem

[22:31]rob i need to know we're at 100 listeners this is bad i think if i had to ask somebody to go

[22:38]unlock the toenail fungus brush i would that would be a bummer to me rule rule number one

[22:43]for once we get into the 30s we never let rob go first on rolling going ever again

[22:49]rolling going how's it going with you i feel like i'm being usurped here

[22:53]you served great word were you done rob i didn't want to interrupt is that a constellation you

[22:58]served just kidding i was going to ask if you guys like to buy anything but i think russ's

[23:02]question was actually much better so let's just move on um i was going to introduce a new segment

[23:10]this week called uh just effing quit it already oh just effing quit it just effing quit it my

[23:19]my question is this i've had i've had a couple of uh experiences this week where i literally i just

[23:26]wanted to quit what i was doing and just move on with life but like the the thing i don't know if

[23:31]it's for my parents or what it's from there's like nope you got to see things through so one of them

[23:35]and i don't want to keep coming back to this so i'm gonna go probably it's quite listening to the

[23:39]podcast i just want to quit this marriage already i can't listen i can't handle listening to this

[23:43]is it squeezing the end of the condom oh no

[23:46]no so i

[23:49]i was doing keep going i was doing a peloton ride and i instantly it was 90s uh country and i'm like

[23:56]oh this will be good little 15 minute i just needed a quick 15 minute ride i'm like this will

[24:00]be good i like 90s countries but the only country i like yeah and then literally a minute and a half

[24:04]in the instructor was just painful and i just wanted to be like oh no i'm out i'm out but like

[24:11]the whole counter thing and you know like this is gonna mess up like my my count so i was like i

[24:17]just i just kind of i just

[24:19]gutted it out for 15 minutes and and just i will never take a class with that person again

[24:24]and then can you just turn it on mute or take off your headphones probably yeah that would have been

[24:31]a good russell you're so smart you like that huh yeah that's very nice i should have probably done

[24:37]that a couple hundred thousand dollars of school loans later and here i am talking to us on friday

[24:42]i don't like the way this looks and sounds turn it off

[24:45]sounds good and then

[24:49]the other one was uh um i was reading a book and i got it for my mother-in-law for christmas

[24:54]and about 30 pages in i was like this just is not for me yeah but like i have i don't know if i've

[25:00]ever not finished a book or consciously not finished a book but in in all reality if you

[25:06]don't like a book you should just ditch it right and you're holding it up right now and the book

[25:10]title is why divorce is a good thing please divorce your wife and i you're not that seems

[25:15]like a weird book for her to give you i don't like that yeah i hear you

[25:19]is there anything is there anything you guys now that you're you know adults at least by age i don't

[25:26]know about how you act or anything like that but is there anything that it's okay to just quit and

[25:31]move on well every every exercise regime i ever take up i tend to quit it and i just feel like

[25:36]that's been okay for me yeah but am i am i am i irrational in my thinking like

[25:43]like if a book's not good just get rid of it and chuck it and and things like that am i am i

[25:48]holding on to i think you're you're you're on to something matt i think i used to read a lot i've

[25:53]read a little less the last few years but whenever i would get into a book and i would always say i

[25:58]have to finish it and normally if i would get a quarter of the way into a book and i wasn't enjoying

[26:02]it nothing would ever change by the end of it that made me enjoy it and aaron's gonna hate me for

[26:08]this but one of the books that really was like this for me was moby dick i remember reading that

[26:12]book and thinking oh this is one of these classics i'm supposed to love it and about you know 100

[26:17]pages in i was like this

[26:18]i'm not into this at all i don't get it this does nothing for me but i said i have to finish it and

[26:24]i finished it i was like man i would have really read rather had those like 400 pages back in my

[26:28]life oh really when he staves in the the pequa and everything he's not not doing it a spoiler

[26:33]alert for moby dick uh i don't hate you for that part where he was determining where to stay

[26:38]but i'm but i'm with you matt i i wish i would have given up on more books in my life because

[26:44]usually if something feels like it's not happening it never it never shifts

[26:48]and flips and the second half but then this this whole conquest we're on you know listening to the

[26:53]500 albums i have found numerous times where it's like god damn it just end this album already and

[27:01]it goes on and on and on but you know we we've set a goal for this one so i i think i can't

[27:06]can't quite fully embrace it yet until we get done with this conquest but i i don't know i always

[27:12]think that applies or whatever it is i always think that applies to people dating out of high school

[27:18]and every time i say that every time i say this very erudite like very smart thing to somebody i'm

[27:23]having a conversation with somebody i don't know 100 of the time they go well i married my high

[27:27]school sweetheart i'm like shit even when i taught high school i would tell the kids whoever you're

[27:33]dating right now break up with them go to college if you still like each other when you come back

[27:38]you can still date each other like in the summer don't worry about it but i think there's something

[27:43]that people say like oh no you got to stick with stuff you gotta i mean i don't think anybody is

[27:48]a high school person into college it's a huge bummer you get to college and all of a sudden

[27:51]there's all these people who are attractive and they don't know that super dumb thing you did in

[27:56]eighth grade it's like heaven i assume that's why i didn't date a ton in college is that i had a

[28:01]girl from high school but well there goes about 10 of our listeners that are females and have

[28:05]diluth accents that probably married their high school boyfriends right diluth accents

[28:11]oh hey there hey guys i got a fresh new set of bars meet my

[28:18]husband slash prom date this is richard what a dick the other 50 of the listeners we just lost

[28:25]are the ones where they're now convinced well i've never liked this podcast maybe i should stop

[28:30]listening to it so bad that was a terrible piece of guide damn it oh cut it out crossing this now

[28:36]her podcast is on their spreadsheet of shit they want to get rid of this podcast oh great i don't

[28:42]have to go on the journey with these guys you shitheads have to finish this podcast there's

[28:46]no escape for you this is the way i'll be honest russell the one thing i did quit was the moby dick

[28:49]podcast because i started making i started being on this podcast that sounds just terrible i i quit

[28:54]you're just lining up make fun of aaron's left and right the moby dick podcast like what are we

[28:58]even talking about it's a really good podcast they go is talia laughing they go chapter by chapter

[29:02]about moby dick it's really great but i you can't like you guys know you can't listen to podcasts

[29:07]and be on a podcast that's the whole problem with trying to market your podcast i'm gonna

[29:12]unsubscribe from my favorite podcast 101 condom jokes

[29:16]i just found that out what episode are you on number one i was on number one it was yeah it was

[29:22]the bit about the end i don't know uh because of my girlfriend from high school i'd never had to

[29:28]use a lot of condoms in college and that's the only reason why it definitely isn't my face or

[29:32]body pregnant pause by the way you see i didn't mention personality because that's what i've got

[29:37]like crazy roll and go on aaron how's it going with you

[29:40]i'm a little bit stressed guys i'm gonna be honest with you i'm a little bit stressed so i'm going to

[29:46]talk about something that's been stressing me out and then i'm going to talk about something that

[29:50]eased my stress a little bit so that's that's where i'm at tonight keep it clean this run of

[29:56]look at i'm staying out of this three albums that we're on so folks at home who are listening this

[30:02]is a music podcast where we're going through the rolling stone list of 500 albums this run of uh

[30:09]three three albums of wu-tang entered the 36 chambers

[30:15]d'angelo voodoo and then next week with the white album by the beatles

[30:22]these three albums are in my top five of all-time most played albums these are albums i know so well

[30:30]and i feel a lot of pressure on myself to try to say something useful and intelligent about this

[30:39]art that has been so important to me in my life good luck to you yeah you gotta let that go and i

[30:44]can't do it and then with this one in particular not only is d'angelo one of my musical heroes in

[30:49]this album one of my favorites but uh as i've read more about the album learn more about the album

[30:54]quest love amir thompson was such an important part of making this album he was my absolute you

[30:59]guys know he was my absolute 100 pandemic internet best friend and hero he was doing dj sets every

[31:05]night from first of april maybe even earlier all the way up to the end of the year and then he was

[31:09]through the summer i watched him every night when i wasn't talking to you guys i learned so much

[31:13]about music from him and he's such an integral part of this album that then to understand the

[31:19]encyclopedia of music that these guys were pulling from i can't listen to enough music to try to

[31:25]understand this album and i can't listen to this album enough to try to say something about this

[31:29]album and it's got me stressing so i can't do yep you got it russell you know you know no

[31:39]listen to these albums perfect is that part of this podcast so the thing i want to know what you

[31:43]stress what what did you eat to get rid of the stress today erin s'mores how many grilled chickens

[31:48]how many grilled chickens you had a sandwich with a side of shirt that fell on yeah from his

[31:52]how many salads how many salads did you have today i did have salad for lunch and actually i had

[31:56]salad for lunch with a veggie chicken patty which is like super delicious i love those but they

[32:02]interrupted him like seven hungry after an hour it just doesn't work but for dinner tonight for

[32:07]for dessert we had s'mores

[32:09]and there were these beautiful mini s'mores that my lady ordered from from uh a person uh who she

[32:15]went to grad school with so these are s'mores built on like quiet for a second i'm telling you

[32:19]right now you are getting ripped off by mini s'mores i will sell you half a graham cracker

[32:24]a tiny piece of chocolate and a mini marshmallow you do not need to order that from somebody i will

[32:28]literally show you where to buy that stuff at a store you can easily fit three marshmallows and

[32:32]a couple chocolates into those bags i don't know anybody who has a s'more and is like you know what

[32:36]i wish this was mini i wish this was way way smaller

[32:39]but yeah i mean but with like a little with like a little you know 3.75 year old kid he's like

[32:44]warming up the mini marshmallows over the candle it's beautiful it's perfect

[32:47]but what i need to know it's it's almost child abuse in my book what i need to know

[32:52]because i don't want to i don't want to do the thing where i talk for my entire rolling going

[32:56]and i don't involve i'm not inclusive of you all where you're trying to start conversations here

[33:01]yeah that's what i'm doing i need to know what your marshmallow style is because i typically am

[33:06]a very patient slight light golden toaster and i don't want to do that because i don't want to do

[33:09]but i need to know what what your marshmallow styles are as an uncle i'm the guy who shoves that

[33:14]that marshmallow right to the fire and lets it flame up as big as possible yeah and then watch

[33:18]my nieces and nephews go crazy over the flaming marshmallow and then you kind of hold it up let

[33:23]it let it flame up for a little bit and then you blow that sucker out i stick it right in the show

[33:27]you know i like that's what my wife does too and i think that's real psychopathic stuff i like that

[33:32]that's my nickname the show oh it's just so gross to watch just you destroy this perfectly good ball

[33:37]of sugar and just totally burn you out of the fire

[33:39]it's disgusting it's like taking a car new like a new sports car and just hitting it a couple times

[33:44]with a brick on the outside matt what's your style then i'll get back to me don't forget about you

[33:49]have to start out by getting the top done first so you don't stick the marshmallow all the way down

[33:53]you get it just so that the stick is sticking out just very you have to get that first if you don't

[33:58]get the top first you get the sides first it melts and then you try to get the top it falls off so

[34:04]you got to get the top first that's the key oh shit matt what are you doing in there

[34:09]that literally is the smartest thing i've ever heard anybody say you're totally right you cannot

[34:21]you cannot you can't you got to get the top first and then from there you find a spot

[34:25]that you can rest your stick on right you find something because if you're holding it over there

[34:31]you're going to start shaking you're going to get all over the place you've got to have

[34:34]constant source of heat at the exact

[34:39]same spot at all time and then you rotate to get it almost perfectly i would say a good

[34:44]a little bit more than golden a little bit darker golden is is uh how i get just just before it

[34:49]starts blistering a little bit but you get all the sides and the top and then you're good to go but

[34:54]you know what i used to do when i was younger is i used to put it in and then i would cook the

[34:58]outside and this might surprise you guys i would then eat the outside and then cook the next layer

[35:04]and then eat the outside like cook the next layer just right off the thing it was looking back and

[35:09]it's probably not the greatest my parents should have probably stepped in at some point

[35:11]what were you gonna say russell i got nothing move on i don't know i i would guess that aaron's i think

[35:17]aaron's that aaron's kid style of marshmallows was severe disappointment because he's cooking

[35:23]a small marshmallow over a candle like one of those real tiny ones on a toothpick he smells

[35:30]like cinnamon apricot at some point he's gonna have a real s'more from like some real parents

[35:34]and it's gonna blow his fucking mind when he gets like a real marshmallow and it's

[35:39]big and he's not doing it on his kitchen table over over like a a candle and they're trying to

[35:43]avoid setting the 300 shirts he's got hanging up on fire like it's gonna be so good for him

[35:48]instead of like hiding adult magazines from his old man back in like 20 10 years from now he's

[35:55]gonna be a teenager like hiding s'mores underneath his bed and stuff like that i'm out and doing

[35:58]s'mores aaron's gonna walk into like whose regular size marshmallows are these under this bed

[36:03]who showed you how to cook these marshmallows you did dad you showed me how

[36:09]pretty sure you could cook them in the microwave pretty quick can't you he's gonna go buck wild

[36:15]he's gonna have a microwave like underneath his bed that's a second smart comment that's a smart

[36:21]shit aaron walks in he's like what are these ultraviolet rays going on in here i can tell

[36:26]i've got my measuring stick for these ultraviolet rays he has a sensor a microwave sensor i know

[36:31]you're using a little microwave in here so that's me this week a lot of a lot of stressing about

[36:37]this podcast this room is for children

[36:39]two things it's for sleeping and it's for hanging up all your laundry there should be no microwaves

[36:43]going out of here didn't uncle buck in the movie uncle buck didn't he dry his laundry by putting

[36:49]it in the microwave you don't have a zipper right like you're screwed i'm your uncle do we have an

[37:00]uncle buck aaron were you gonna cap that off that was a good one aaron i gotta give you props for

[37:06]thank you i was gonna say that was my week i was stressing about trying to

[37:09]say something interesting about this album and then i was relieving that stress by eating s'mores

[37:13]let me let me help you with your stress nobody gives a shit i know i know about these albums

[37:18]nobody cares they just want to hear you laugh they want to hear rob call them dumb shits they

[37:22]want me to be quiet and they want to hear russell with all of his wisdom that he comes up from the

[37:27]backside and then some of those dating stories too and i've gotten some emails about condom advice so

[37:31]i don't know i think that's i delete them though you guys don't go look for it i don't like what

[37:38]you say that is you know what i'm sorry i said that actually because now that you said that i

[37:41]do realize how gross that is okay so we're gonna move on russell rolling going how's it going with

[37:45]you well i've got to ask for dating advice if the people want dating advice they gotta ask for

[37:49]dating advice right so i better go to the corner get in the corner god damn it's been a long time

[37:56]come on get get get get to the corner it's time you haven't been in the corner for a while

[38:02]oh yeah i like it all right who wants to spank russell first

[38:08]oh wait i forgot what the corner is all about

[38:09]man man i just can't believe you have a paddle like that put that away i don't know why you have

[38:15]that for he's gonna use that holes in it so you get a look that's not the drag on it he's gonna

[38:22]use that book he got called how to kiss your mother oh jeez i'll cut that out but it's funny to me

[38:29]what's going on i don't even know what's happening the book is called how to kiss

[38:35]your mother-in-law and that's what he got okay keep going

[38:38]from my mother-in-law subtle hint wink wink

[38:44]well there goes my ruling going from a year from now after this pregnant pause

[38:50]no we can't reference that anymore because it's getting cut out we can't do it

[38:53]oh you know it's not good that's staying in you know it's staying in

[38:58]rob never tells us if we're allowed to talk about when we're taping this or if we're supposed to be

[39:02]talking about two or three weeks in the future when we release it so one so we're we're taping

[39:07]this uh two days from now we're going to be talking about two or three weeks in the future

[39:08]two days before valentine's day i believe and so i don't have any specific valentine's day plans

[39:13]but i was wondering as a single guy if you start to meet someone and you hang out with them a little

[39:17]bit when do you acknowledge valentine's day do you have to go on so many dates do you have to

[39:22]have like a three-day buffer around valentine's day where you try to not hang out with each other

[39:26]because you worried there's too much pressure pressure what's what's the valentine's day advice

[39:31]for the single guy in the world first date on valentine's day russell straight up power move

[39:38]you're just all the biscuits in the basket at one time first date you're right out there

[39:43]everything like they bring over champagne the whole thing you're like well yes this is a very

[39:46]good i do the whole explanation about how i got the condoms behind the glass case and targeted

[39:51]my buddy rob showed me how to pitch off the tip of them or not oh i see in the receipt you also

[39:57]got toenail fungus paint and it's like oh no and a book on how to kiss your mother

[40:03]and at least he's got moby dick on audiobook or

[40:08]whatever it is right she gets in the car you're listening to call me

[40:11]these doors are locked i can't get out

[40:15]she crawls in the back seat she's got to climb over the the stack of herbie bad albums it's a

[40:21]complete disaster thanks for going on a date with me on valentine's day what valentine's day is not

[40:26]till tomorrow oh god let me out of this car i mean i would say in in regular times like the world is

[40:33]so weird now i don't even know what you can do on a date but in regular times that seems like the

[40:38]right you're like it's valentine's day i don't want to be out there with the amateurs at you know

[40:44]the the two for a couple special night at the you know silly restaurant like let's go get a shot in

[40:50]a beer and uh play the nachos and let's hang out at the dive bar that's i feel like listen to some

[40:56]d'angelo on the jukebox that's how you know aaron is a good looking guy when that's the advice he

[41:00]gives all right aaron best place you ever went for uh valentine's day i got a good one but

[41:08]what's the best place you've ever gone most memorable

[41:10]you know i think we did a valentine's day date at uh ordinary which is a great wine bar here in

[41:18]oakland and there was a guy named chris kroner who used to do pop-ups there and kroner does

[41:22]the best burgers in america but then he would do these crazy pop-ups with uh that's funny you

[41:27]mentioned that matt because actually the other night i was uh looking back at old like i was

[41:31]searching old emails to see like when we had been uh at at ordinary for searching old emails

[41:38]i was like i was trying to remember like when did we go to the current to the bistro at ordinary

[41:45]for kroner and he it was uh in 2014 he did like an uni and um buck emails or 2014 wait what don't

[41:53]you use gmail give me the food i don't know we gotta get into this next week for the making fun

[41:58]of aaron segment we do not have time to get into why you have so many old emails and why in your

[42:02]emails do you have listed what you've eaten like do you email yourself every night like add a burger

[42:06]so good

[42:08]russell i'll do two quick things yeah one my uh my senior year of high school i think my

[42:16]girlfriend had dumped me like a month before smart so that's a good move on her part taking

[42:20]it was great but and then she started dating rob and she had to dump him when she decided to drive

[42:25]home fast ended up going ended up figuring out that white castle takes um reservations

[42:32]on valentine's day i love this and so we went to so me and i'm trying to remember

[42:38]who we went with but i think it was with another couple and like a friend kind of thing but we went

[42:42]to we went to white castle on valentine's day they had waiters waitresses they put tablecloths on the

[42:48]they had candlelit dinners at white castle it was the greatest thing in the world how many sliders

[42:53]did you order matt i'm gonna fire off like two dozen text messages invites for this tonight

[42:58]but you had to make reservations you had to call i think it was someplace there's like a

[43:02]central spot in minneapolis you had to call you know there used to be one on lake street i don't

[43:07]know if it's still there but we went to the one in bloomington up did you walk did you walk in and

[43:11]they did they did they immediately say hey matt regular table and you're like oh no oh no don't

[43:17]act like i come here every weekend no we're moving up tonight uh sorry jerry we're taking two crave

[43:23]cases tonight thank you very much crave case uh yeah leave the onions on the cheese matt you know

[43:28]what's sadder than going to a white castle with a reservation nothing is going there nothing going

[43:33]there with a date and then not having a reservation and getting denied at a white castle

[43:37]they're like standing out in line like it's midnight on like a friday night in downtown

[43:45]russell i would say and then my advice is this if it's anywhere inside of like three or four months

[43:52]if you haven't been dating them for like a while like if they haven't met your parents yet or like

[43:55]you know your brother or something like that if they haven't met family then you just make up some

[43:59]excuse like oh you know for the last 23 years i've been spending valentine's day with my grandma and

[44:05]then just completely feel terrible that's too getting too close to home right now sorry grandma

[44:10]i really enjoy spending every valentine's day with you russell's grandma is like jesus christ i want

[44:15]to go to white castle get this guy out of there those candy flavored pies you make for me every

[44:19]valentine's day are fantastic grandma don't stop downloading this podcast we need your downloads

[44:23]russell i heard that talk about the pies

[44:26]bring somebody else to white castle

[44:29]but i think uh valentine's day

[44:35]uh new year's and halloween are just i never never had fun on them and they never end up taking

[44:44]they never meet expectations and you're always trying to have like this great time and it never

[44:52]lives up to them and so just avoid it at all costs that's my that's my take so there you go

[44:57]there you go russell put on a smile head forward with that advice

[45:00]avoid communication with people for like 10

[45:05]weeks around that time frame i'm down with that i can handle that i think if they have seen you

[45:10]naked in the light of day then you can go on a valentine's date with them otherwise you can't do

[45:15]it what if they see me naked at white castle they're still talking to you put a ring yeah you

[45:22]got holy shit such a good bet i'm not gonna lie right now this might be the best episode we've

[45:29]ever done i think the condom stuff to the white castle stuff and some other stuff i did so funny

[45:35]and two out of the three things there were stuff you did what do you guys get what are you guys

[45:40]getting your old ladies for valentine's day old ladies i need i need some advice please help

[45:46]rob's gonna order it like two weeks late rob you need to order this a long time ago i was

[45:51]i was gonna get her some deodorant i'm lost now i'm screwed like the manly musk flavor as you

[45:59]would call it oh no if i unlock the case maybe that's what i should do is unlock the case and

[46:04]get one female scent in one of my books i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't

[46:05]know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know

[46:05]and i'll be like oh yeah this is for my stinky wife yes that's a great idea do you think she'd

[46:11]want to make out with her mother-in-law i send this book would that be a good what's going on

[46:16]this is bringing up all sorts of weird feelings for me

[46:19]russell still doesn't get the book i'm gonna write this book for you russell i'm gonna show

[46:23]you this book joke so what what are you guys getting for valentine's day anything any good

[46:28]ideas nothing so yeah jenny's on a cut right now so if i get her chocolate she's gonna rip my head

[46:35]what to do yeah i ended up with some um some body oil like some massage oil and then uh a linen towel

[46:43]are you gonna say that's not for your wife that that's for you

[46:56]and then a nice pink linen towel that i thought looked pretty oh jeez erin i don't know

[47:05]how are you married i don't get it he's like uh sweetie this towel cannot be dried it will shrink

[47:12]so we do need to hang this up in the bedroom matt how about you are you doing like a certificate for

[47:16]your wife where she gets to like make dinner for a few days or what's what certificate is she

[47:20]getting from you she can fold the laundry oh my god it'll be good my mom my mother can stay home

[47:28]for a few days while you do the laundry here's your certificate laminate it and everything i'm

[47:32]going to combine those ideas and i'm going to give my wife his certificate book and a bottle of

[47:36]body oil just see where it goes i don't know we'll see what happens happy valentine's day rub me

[47:42]you're gonna get like a little box of those little candy valentine's with just a bunch of

[47:51]inappropriate statements aren't you rob yeah i'm gonna bring it all together because it's

[47:55]gonna smell like white gas also oh yeah oh real oniony

[48:02]well russ great advice

[48:04]that's it time's up as always get out of the car these are the three people i go to for advice

[48:11]this is what i got this is my life

[48:13]guys i just i just google it and uh white castle turns into love castle

[48:22]under the 20 and but when's valentine's you can reserve it you can you can uh on sunday you can

[48:29]reserve a parking spot this year not a table but a parking spot and you can reserve a parking spot

[48:32]and they will serve you out at your parking spot this year so it's still on if you want to make a

[48:37]reservation well for all the girls that have been swiping on me today reservations made

[48:42]russell's doing that classic movie thing where he's reserved two parking spots he's got two

[48:48]different cars and he's got to go back and forth and change shirts each time

[48:51]all right guys let's get into a guy who had a lot of dates

[48:55]huh i'm doing rob's thing where we segue speaking of a guy who dated a lot of ladies

[49:02]did he has a lot of pregnant pauses i'm guessing oh i mean i'm telling you if d'angelo did not date

[49:08]a lot of ladies he really must have screwed up big time because i want to date him after

[49:12]listening to this album uh let's give a little bit of history on this album d'angelo is originally

[49:15]from virginia went up to the apollo in new york city won a couple weeks in a row of whatever

[49:20]contests they had he literally just dropped out of school and moved to new york city after that

[49:24]and in 1995 he released the album brown sugar that had uh sorry about this he it had his

[49:32]uh only billboard top 10 hit is that true is that fact true this is only billboard top 10 i think on

[49:39]the pop charts yeah i think uh untitled from voodoo went uh number two on the r&b but yeah

[49:44]this is a very 90s r&b song to me doesn't this sound like you're knocking the boots or it's like

[49:50]yes and i wouldn't i wouldn't be a guy who lives in oakland if i didn't mention that a lot of brown

[49:56]sugar was recorded in sacramento at rafael sadiq's studio rafael sadiq of oakland california you can

[50:01]edit that out rob

[50:02]no now i have to edit you saying that out and so this is a whole complicated thing

[50:07]all right so basically d'angelo came out and he was he people were people were kind of

[50:13]big on him because he was fusing soul and r&b and this was a time where he really this this album

[50:18]was so big this brown sugar opened the door for maxwell and erica badu and even the aforementioned

[50:23]lauren hill on this podcast now after that album came out he kind of went through a rough time

[50:28]where he said basically he had total writer's block he couldn't he couldn't he just couldn't

[50:32]write a song he felt like he you can't write a song without going out and living his life

[50:35]so instead according to wikipedia he spent most of his time lifting weights and getting stoned

[50:40]yeah i was like what a life sounds that sounds awesome that sounds like the perfect life like

[50:45]why release another album i totally get it i think that's everyone's goal in life to get to

[50:48]that point right so and then he he said in the in the in the 2000s or late 90s he really hated

[50:54]the where r&b was going he felt it was really derivative of just basically r&b from a couple

[50:58]years earlier and he really wanted to bring back soul and funk and he was talking about prince he

[51:03]was talking about parliament he was talking about the ohio players and so he went into new york city

[51:08]and recorded this album at electric uh electric lady studios which we have already talked about

[51:13]with patty smith it's the same exact uh place where that was recorded this is a studio i found

[51:19]out that was bought by jimmy hendrix a year before he passed away and and jimmy hendrix recorded there

[51:24]and there's a lot of other great albums that have been recorded there and so he really felt like this

[51:28]connection to music from the past which is what a big part of this album is about is is connecting it

[51:33]to kind of black music and soul music and then fusing it with this kind of groovy r&b this album

[51:40]came out of four years of sessions and basically they they said that from what i've seen with

[51:45]interviews they said the first couple years were easy and then the last year they were really

[51:49]stressed because they're like we got to put out something and we're going to find out as we go

[51:52]through the songs i'm going to tell you the singles he released off this album did not do well

[51:56]initially and they actually pushed back the release date of this album

[51:58]because they were really worried that it was going to be a bomb but what's interesting about

[52:02]this album is you listen is that there's very little verse chorus like even me listening to

[52:05]this at work there's never a part where i was like oh here's the chorus that i remember here's

[52:09]the hook that i'm going to sing along with it was just kind of a lot of these funky grooves

[52:14]and then every once in a while he'd repeat some phrases and i was like well i guess that's the

[52:17]chorus um and then like aaron said earlier a huge part of this album was quest love on the drums

[52:22]and aaron can you explain what you mean when you were talking about um him dragging the beat on

[52:28]this album yeah quest love talks about this a lot about how he had and i've been watching

[52:34]interviews with him recently and reading things he said about it recently where

[52:38]so the roots were a live hip-hop band which was not cool in the mid late 90s so quest love had

[52:46]to you know quest love group in philadelphia exposed a lot of music uh jazz okay i'm not

[52:53]talking about quest love because i could do that all night but he talks about how again

[52:56]the point of this podcast he had trained himself to do that all night and he was like i'm not going to

[52:58]to play like a drum machine where he was on the on the beat all the time and he took it as a

[53:04]compliment when someone would come up to him and say you sound like a drum machine never

[53:08]never you know you're like a robot thank you for the compliment yes he started playing with

[53:14]d'angelo and d'angelo was like no no no no like let it lay behind the beat and i can't do the

[53:19]things that he would do in his interviews where he gives examples but yeah basically it was just

[53:24]like consistently playing somewhere behind the beat and it was about the

[53:28]interplay between the the drums and the bass and quest love talks a lot d'angelo not as much

[53:34]talks a lot about how this was influenced by j dilla uh who was a producer out of detroit um

[53:41]dilla worked with tribe called quest most famously um was the only producer for slum village on their

[53:46]first album and dilla is not credited on this album in any way but i know he was around the

[53:53]studio at the time because he was working with common and erica badu and all those other folks

[53:57]who were around the electric lady

[53:58]at the time and quest love talks about how a lot of what they were going for was dilla's uh he calls

[54:06]it drunken drumming and then the one other thing other thing i would say about it is that um d'angelo

[54:12]talks about how he was influenced by hip-hop and early hip-hop where samples didn't always line up

[54:20]with the beat or the bass and so he was emulating that sound where it just wasn't perfect but the

[54:26]thing about that is it wasn't perfect but it was

[54:28]perfectly imperfect and it can't be recreated because no one else has ever done this since

[54:33]note to self don't ask aaron about that drumming dig at holy shit sorry sorry it's awesome it was

[54:41]no it's awesome man it's brilliant i somehow have to make fun of you with with also complimenting

[54:45]you no i just i'm just gonna make fun of you so immersed in this stuff for many years and this

[54:50]album is 21 years old buy it a drink and i've been listening to it for 20 for 20 21 years now

[54:56]and uh i i still have it in my head and i still have it in my head and i still have it in my head

[54:58]haven't fully grasped it so uh when d'angelo goes to the beach in mexico he goes i'm going to the

[55:05]playa playa that's the first yes yes playa playa i read that this song was supposed to be for the

[55:14]movie space jam right and so there's a lot of basketball themes in this in this song but if

[55:19]you listen the basketball themes are kind of off like no wonder they didn't put it in space jam

[55:23]like they don't the lyrics don't make a lot of basketball sense like i'm cutting behind the

[55:27]blocker it's like i don't know if d'angelo's ever played basketball because his lyrics don't

[55:31]really make basketball sense i don't think he has because i also watched interviews with him

[55:37]recently where i don't think he's more than 5'8 and he grew up only playing music in the church

[55:42]he was this was his thing was playing music i don't think he ever played basketball so it does

[55:47]sound like fish out of water kind of stuff when he's trying to sing about basketball one of the

[55:50]coolest things i saw about this opening song is that the guitar player was mike campbell who is

[55:55]the guitar player for tom petty in the house and the guitar player was mike campbell who is the

[55:57]heartbreakers and so the guitar player in this was that guy and he's also played on you you would

[56:04]know him you would probably know his face from being you know the tom petty guitar player but

[56:08]he's also played with johnny cash on the american records he played on rusty cage and hurt he also

[56:13]played with the wallflowers on sixth avenue heartache you guys remember that song oh god

[56:18]that's that was wallflowers were like a huge band for me russ i gotta say i'm you must you must have

[56:24]a great list if that wasn't your list that you came up with that was a great list i'm gonna say

[56:27]the opening track you don't do a list on the opening i'm learning i'm learning all these

[56:31]i've done a list love it but russell if i had tom petty's guitar if i had tom petty's guitar player

[56:36]the only thing i would do the whole time is be like play the intro to running down a dream and

[56:40]he'd be like he's like should we play this song play a player and i'm like no play running down

[56:48]a dream do it again that rocks my face off do it again all right it's moving on devil's pie here

[56:57]i think it was the first single off the album i mean listen to this groove god this album is so

[57:03]thick and like chunky and funky and sexy but when they released this single it didn't do very well

[57:10]because it wasn't real hip-hop like we were listening to at the time in kind of the late

[57:14]90s early 2000s where it wasn't about you know a lot of excess and and and well it's not a radio

[57:20]play we've talked about it often but you know the kind of this whole album it's not made for radio

[57:27]you hear this song and what drew me to it you know what drew it to it it was the fact that it's

[57:33]not a radio song you're so used to hearing all these songs that you know i don't know it just

[57:38]it hooked me right away i think for to play a song on the radio right you need a couple things you

[57:42]need a song that's under six minutes no you need a you need a singer who you could understand what

[57:48]the hell they're saying no you know i mean it just it just doesn't it doesn't happen on the

[57:54]song but i mean listen to the end of this song listen how funky this is

[57:57]this is six minutes it's just so like i i did not know what this album was and when i put these

[58:03]headphones on at work and i started listening to it i was like oh my god like this is i think this

[58:08]this song has the holy trinity of sounds including badass drums horns and scratching of records i

[58:14]want more of those three things i love russell so you're oh you're sending me if i gotta talk

[58:18]about this because this is the one track where he brought in a hip-hop producer so he's got

[58:23]on this beat premiere of gangstar and uh

[58:27]he talks about how premiere and marley marl were his his favorite producers so you can hear how

[58:32]this one's a little bit more straightforward in terms of just hitting the drums on the one and

[58:36]going going for it uh and then if we're going to talk about horns we got to talk about

[58:40]roy hargrove uh who was the the horn player for this album which we'll probably get into later but

[58:45]uh you're 100 right everything you guys are saying about this one it's uh it's a great track

[58:50]so now we have left and right now on this one d'angelo is a multi-instrumentalist he played

[58:56]all the instruments on this song this song was originally supposed to go have q-tip

[59:01]rapping over the top of it but at the time method and red men were the hot method and red man were

[59:05]the hot ones so they were doing this i gotta say this was my least favorite song of the whole album

[59:10]i i know that rap lyrics being disrespectful to women is nothing new but this was just such a

[59:16]derivation from the rest of the album it was like like i would listen to this and be like i don't

[59:21]really like what they're saying am i am i too sensitive i can't disagree with you i i have this

[59:25]as you guys know i own this on vinyl and these first three tracks comprise side one and i'm not

[59:32]a side one guy i feel like the the record doesn't really start until it gets to the line um and also

[59:39]i feel like the the album actually loses something on vinyl because the transition from left and right

[59:43]into the line is one of my favorite transitions and you only hear it on cd or streaming so now

[59:49]that we're out we're in we're in the we've done with side one who's listening to this album let's

[59:53]get back to my segment that i'm bringing back for this album you know i was thinking i was actually

[59:58]thinking about this rob and i thought this bit was dead so i didn't have a very well thought out

[60:03]no bit left on top of my head you know it's it's somebody who who loved jazz who loved kind of old

[60:10]school r&b who loved um you know maybe some some 80s kind of soul music and they were they just

[60:18]they haven't seen it and all of a sudden in the late 90s erica badu and

[60:23]d'angelo and maxwell and uh lauren hill are bringing this stuff back and this is like their

[60:29]their uh i don't know their their golden chalice of records that they're going to put on so

[60:35]you know they're they're just thanking the good lord above that somebody finally brought all this

[60:42]back together in modern times now this is 20 years ago but at the time and this just kind of brings

[60:48]it all back to to what happened um you know from 60s 70s 80s and kind of brought it together

[60:53]so i mean you can throw prince in there you know they're they're big prince fans in the 80s

[60:58]and that there's just like you said there was this huge gap of like radio r&b and clubbing r&b

[61:06]and the rap game that came in and this just was uh kind of brought it all back to much more of a

[61:11]soulful song so that's who's listening all right so now we have the line this is the one song i

[61:17]could understand where he's threatening me in a sexy ass way

[61:21]he's gonna i'm gonna lay it on the line i'm gonna beat your ass i'm like yeah i kind of want you to

[61:26]actually i think the other people that are listening to this are people that are watching

[61:30]like old school 70s pornographic movies like the like the wah-wah the funk this is like this like

[61:36]if there's an album we've listened to that's that so far it sounds like it could be the

[61:39]wow that it's this album right yeah yes and it is what i'm talking about well it's amazing you

[61:48]talk about 70s videos because they

[61:51]the the people who made this album talk a lot so this album was recorded a lot between what 97 and

[61:56]99 96 99 yes and they talk about how they would sit and watch soul train videos when they weren't

[62:03]recording like that's what they would use as inspiration which to us seems like oh yeah you

[62:07]just watch a bunch of videos but in 1999 to try to watch a soul train video meant that someone had

[62:14]that shit on vhs or dvd and it was quest love of course the second love of my life third love of

[62:21]my life uh who was was like going to japan and bringing back treasure troves of soul train videos

[62:28]for them to watch live performances of all of these people so you're not that far off russell

[62:32]that they were you know watching 70s soul if it's anything like vhs tape from the 70s that i had in

[62:38]my house you had to find a spot in your basement to hide it where nobody would ever find it oh my

[62:41]god you got to definitely stay away from the dryer that's hanging from the ceiling and whizzing around

[62:46]down there too i don't want to get hit in the head by that it caused a concussion what's that noise i

[62:50]hear downstairs that's a concussion i don't want to get hit in the head by that it caused a concussion

[62:51]just ignore it uh all right here we have send it on

[62:57]whoops forgot to put a time stamp on this one i mean it's great from the start it doesn't matter

[63:04]listeners gotta listen for five and a half minutes okay everyone enjoy the beginning of the song is

[63:08]fantastic this is awesome yep this is ray hargrove on the trumpet rest in peace i know you hate when

[63:16]i do that but erin what do you think of d'angelo as a singer so he's kind of busting out the

[63:21]what would you rank his singing abilities at i would rank d'angelo uh 10 out of 10 on musicality

[63:27]uh you know the weird thing about d'angelo and this album um i do want to mention russell elevato

[63:32]who was the the engineer on the album who i think was pretty instrumental in the overall sound

[63:37]they tend to bury his voice in the mix and i think that's part of him he's gonna ask that

[63:42]you know going for the mystique uh but i i think he does have a great voice

[63:46]and he does things that not anyone can do he's clearly influenced by prince

[63:50]and i think that's part of him he's going to ask that you know going for the mystique

[63:51]you know he doesn't have a voice like otis redding or sam cook that's gonna like

[63:54]bring you right out of your seat with power but uh i think it's sensitive and i think it's flexible

[64:01]but uh yeah i think they do some things to kind of obscure his voice that are interesting and

[64:06]it's interesting that he's willing to allow that to happen i'm gonna edit this out erin but in

[64:10]future episodes i wish you would do a little bit of research on these albums so you would

[64:13]know a little bit about what's going on it's kind of embarrassing this album makes me want

[64:18]to kiss my zoom camera should we all kiss our zoom camera

[64:21]at the same time okay never mind

[64:22]sorry about the onion breath guys i had a date at white castle earlier i apologize for that

[64:29]i know what fogged up the whole the zoom camera i apologize that was my bad okay we'll talk about

[64:33]this after the podcast because of the zoom camera chicken grease oh i love this song

[64:37]i can't imagine how erin loves this chicken this is like right up erin's alley

[64:43]this is my favorite combination of movies chicken run and grease i'm sorry edit it out so here's the

[64:50]thing chicken run and grease

[64:51]is that i remember watching that one shout out mel gibson so here's no no no that is getting

[64:57]edited out we are not shouting out mel gibson on this podcast are you fucking serious you just

[65:01]shout out i want you to go to the hot tub and follow me what's going on with the tapes is this

[65:12]like the whole cogan tapes where he called his wife on the voicemail and he's like what and she

[65:19]goes i don't like you

[65:21]because she knew she was recording it so she just baited but she's like you are a piece of

[65:24]shit and you'd be like what what did you just say i want you to come out to the hot tub

[65:30]you know what i'm gonna put in a clip of the mel gibson tape below this saying below me it's so good

[65:36]erin you're not shouting out mel gibson on this podcast i know you didn't mean it like that but

[65:39]that's sick so chicken grease i'm gonna start the song again i can't handle this i'm not gonna think

[65:44]about mel gibson every time i think about this song chicken grease was a term prince used when

[65:47]you're playing a um sick a chord with like a

[65:50]seventh note in it and 16th notes so like a fast that's what he called the chicken grease which is

[65:56]why they called it this uh but this was originally supposed to be a song for common and d'angelo

[66:02]traded him this song for a different song like just straight up traded a song which is brilliant

[66:07]when i heard this song i couldn't stop thinking of erin and his bucket of chicken and then i

[66:11]started thinking of you know how erin and i do chicken differently and you know who else sings

[66:15]about chicken differently it's our guy back you guys got to check out this song back also singing

[66:20]about chicken but beck does a rust style he likes deep fried chicken and deep fried love check out

[66:26]deep fried love by beck oh yeah

[66:30]sounds like velvet underground it does a little

[66:36]deep fried love come on give me the grease

[66:42]we're supposed to keep it clean the thing was that russ just accidentally found this song just

[66:50]typing in

[66:50]back grease sock answer result done so when it comes to doing deep fried chicken socks who does

[67:02]it better beck did it better all right we are getting in now too this is one more gin i think

[67:10]so yeah so one more gin i've been wondering about how long it's been with me and my gin and tonics

[67:17]and i hoped i'd get a chance to see it once again and i'd love to see it again

[67:20]and i hope to kiss your lips baby once again i'm holding you tonight i'm enjoying another

[67:24]jib and tonic i'm having one more jib it took me about three-fourths of the way to realize you

[67:29]weren't just talking to me and i was like all right this kissing the zoom camera thing is gonna

[67:32]work out for me this is great god listen to this though i mean this reminds me of when i worked at

[67:37]a train yard and there's a train that was so big we couldn't push it and we needed one one more

[67:42]engine you worked at a train yard well no i needed one more engine russ it's the yeah i was a rob soft

[67:49]baby hands he's never done a bit of manual labor

[67:52]i was in charge of shaking the caboose

[67:56]i mean listen to this breakdown at the end of this song like

[68:01]it's like it totally switches gear hit the end it kind of little funky this is song

[68:08]this is track four songs in the key of life for sure i mean he's definitely referencing

[68:12]absolutely oh i hear that very cool by the way stevie wonder recorded

[68:19]another one at that at that same studio right so there's that's my facts that's my facts compared

[68:24]to aaron's facts i said stevie wonder recorded uh some album at that studio so rob doing the

[68:30]research aaron you always talk about the funk so is this considered funk is it r&b is it soul what

[68:36]what is the what is this album considered so question i yeah no that's that's a great question

[68:41]i think that's what i said typically refer to it as neo soul i think he's taking elements of funk

[68:48]but that reminds me of a song called neo soul i think he's taking elements of funk but that reminds

[68:49]me of the shoes in the matrix uh yes yes yes i couldn't hey aaron aaron you're allowed to use a

[68:57]pregnant pause you don't have to acknowledge rob's terrible jokes you can just pregnant

[69:00]i use that same joke on the lauren hill episode personally wouldn't classify this as a funk album

[69:05]and i don't i don't want to speak for the artists involved i don't think they would classify it as

[69:10]a funk album because funk has a uh an element of precision that i think this album uh i don't

[69:19]want to say forsook or rejected because that sounds negative but they were going more toward

[69:24]the funkadelic than the parliament uh end of things where they were looking for some more i think it's

[69:30]a jazz album to be honest and a soul album but um they were going for more improvisation a looser

[69:35]feel funk to me has more grooves right i mean we're talking grooves rather than like synchronization

[69:43]like synchronization god damn it rob no and rob you're totally right and funk has a groove but

[69:49]it's a more improvisational kind of groove and it's a more improvisational kind of groove and

[69:49]it's a precise groove rob's right you land on the first beat and then you do what you want after

[69:54]after the one but uh for i don't know and maybe if we you know if d'angelo listens to this podcast

[70:00]he might think differently but i i wouldn't call it funk i would call it soul uh but highly

[70:05]influenced by jazz that's a longer answer than you needed to wrestle d'angelo if you're listening

[70:08]802-277-2325 okay we'll let you leave a voicemail if it's any good we'll think about having you on

[70:14]okay my favorite part is if he sends a text and instead of having his beautiful voice we get to

[70:19]computer voice for d'angelo's backs next week excuse me guys this is definitely influenced by

[70:26]finding the funk here's a picture of my feet all right here we have the roots this was influenced

[70:34]by a jimmy hendrix jam believe it or not they'd been jamming on a jimmy hendrix song for a while

[70:39]and this song came out of it is this the dragging drum i wrote down dragging drum for this this

[70:44]sounds like yeah i think it is yeah i definitely think it is uh the guitarist here

[70:49]matt what's your favorite song on the album so far devil's pie devil's pie yeah it's in my top 100

[70:58]this i mean this was a this was a tough album for me to listen to at work because the nature of my

[71:05]work is not to be listening to sexy songs and then immediately go like you know talk to kids

[71:10]about how to write down notes but it's it was a fun song to listen to because you could just zone

[71:15]in and zone out and by the end i just had the album on random and you would just hear these grooves and

[71:19]you could

[71:19]like focus you didn't have to like listen to music it's so good we've talked about it before but i

[71:24]tend not to listen to the words a lot of times uh you know on a lot of these albums i do the same

[71:29]thing with this podcast yeah but i think to your point rob you can just have it on and even with

[71:37]he's singing but you're not really hearing what the words are but you hear like kind of the

[71:42]instrument of his voice if that makes sense and you can just have it on in the background and it

[71:46]makes and it makes complete sense and it it it

[71:49]it works i guess is the best way to say it so that's why i you know to your point i'm are you

[71:55]focusing when you're always listening to these albums i'm not always focusing on the albums i'm

[71:59]just kind of feeling the vibe if you will um and this this album has that definitely this album i

[72:04]think almost more than any album we've listened to the vibe is constant throughout this album

[72:09]which is what why i don't like that method man red man song is that it it's so different but

[72:13]the vibe on this album is so strong of just juicy chunky sexy grooves which was also

[72:19]my nickname in high school so think about it it's perfect for every occasion it lends itself

[72:24]to putting on in the background it lends itself to deep study of what they were doing it lends itself

[72:29]to hanging out with someone special to you it's it's you know it has all all kinds of purposes

[72:36]this one reminds me uh when i wanted to buy l marijuana spanish joint

[72:43]spanish for the marijuana

[72:49]i love i can't i didn't want to steal russell's bit but now russell's already done his bit i will

[72:53]say i opened some spanish wine tonight because i had to have a spanish joint so nice i wanted to

[72:59]be just like russell i played the beginning of the song listen to how this builds no wonder that

[73:03]houston guy called you out for being high if this isn't jazz i don't know what it is i think my

[73:09]favorite part of this song is the conga drums we've talked about conga drums maybe once or

[73:13]twice before you guys hear those yep what is a conga drum is that the tall boy actually rob

[73:19]i have a description of the congas for you guys tonight because we're doing a list on the greatest

[73:24]songs ever that feature the conga drums this is gonna be good

[73:29]i should do this sound clip and make the countdown from like 30 30 29 28 27 26 30 and make a pregnant

[73:43]pause between each number so funny can you imagine how many of our listeners would have

[73:49]pregnant pause events while they're listening to this d'angelo album right now and i know there's

[73:54]some listeners who are ignoring the pregnant pauses because they're listening to it at 1.5

[73:58]or it's the sick freaks who are doing it at 2x speeds you fuckers listen to this at real time

[74:03]you losers or it could be the people who accidentally didn't pinch off the tip of that

[74:07]that uh device that they were using too right provolact i like that you call a condom a device

[74:13]i think that's very good all right so congas they're also known as a uh tumbadora it's a

[74:19]tall narrow single-headed drum from cuba and it's it's often known for being used in latin music

[74:25]um jazz salsa merengue and latin rock and so i was kind of wondering first what's the difference

[74:32]between a conga and a bongo do you guys know the difference i don't i hope you're gonna tell us i

[74:37]don't know i think a conga is a long tall one right and the bongo are two because my grandmother used

[74:42]to have a couple of bongo drums which we would play with all the time until mysteriously they

[74:49]grandmother's basement somehow after about the 10th time we went over there

[74:52]rob you were you were spot on the bongo is is a higher pitch thinner and it's shorter than the

[74:58]conga the congers the congas bigger it has a different sound to it you're right on what's

[75:01]the spanish name for the conga again the tumbadora oh that makes me want a whiskey drink and a cider

[75:06]drink that's about as close as you can get we'll give you

[75:11]let's just play that instead of my list i would totally be happy

[75:19]no i'm excited for this list i know what's on here it rocks rocks my face all right so the first song

[75:30]i think we have to call this out this is probably where they might do like a conga line at a wedding

[75:34]where they're not playing where they're not playing rob's uh what what do we normally hear

[75:39]at weddings thriller yeah we normally they're not playing thriller they might be doing this

[75:42]this is miami sound machine gloria stefan this is the song conga you hear that conga in the

[75:49]background

[75:49]oh yeah it's that kind of constant it's gonna be hard to do

[75:57]you could do worse and spend like a whole day listening to the miami sound machine right like

[76:03]if you put this on all day you'd be happy

[76:05]all their songs are conga if you if you google like famous conga songs it's miami sound machine

[76:12]across the board yes oh it's so good all right number two on the list we've covered this one

[76:19]it's the greatest album of all time and it's unimpeachable at this point this is marvin gaye

[76:24]inner city blues we've talked about this before you guys remember this one yep a little more laid

[76:30]back yeah and i'll tell you what marvin gaye huge influence on this album and you can hear it i mean

[76:36]he's probably the number one influence on this album right listen to it you can hear it so similar

[76:42]he also in fact rob that's a perfect segue when d'angelo was looking for a bass player he was

[76:48]looking for his own james jamerson

[76:49]he was looking for a bass player to be like this i've been looking for like three or four shots of

[76:55]jameson before i take my date to white cast i was gonna say for valentine's day we all just want our

[76:59]own james jamerson i think you know but russell are you gonna mention the apes that come out and

[77:05]kill all the people oh that's right we're not talking about congo congo it was a michael

[77:11]creighton book and movie okay movie well there goes my number three song i was gonna do a whole

[77:15]rip off on congo okay but instead i'll move on to one of the greatest

[77:19]bands ever how about rolling stones sympathy for the devil this is the opening you guys will all

[77:24]know this part let me introduce myself dang this is an opening i can't wait till we get back to

[77:30]stones i i played this song once in my car and i was so proud of my kids because i was playing this

[77:35]and i just hear them in the background when they were like two or three they're going

[77:38]and i was like hell yeah

[77:41]listen

[77:44]god dang this this list

[77:49]rocks russell yeah russell crushing it again oh it's about to get better would it be stressful

[77:54]to play the conga do you think in a drum because it sounds like they're not playing on a rhythm

[77:58]it sounds like they're kind of like there's a lot of syncopation going on going on well actually

[78:01]i was hoping to share with you guys there are four different strokes that come with the conga

[78:06]can i share a few of those with you guys here the strokes yep different is that what the show

[78:10]different strokes was about well this is way better rap i know we're not allowed to have

[78:14]dirty jokes but if you guys keep your mind out of the gutter for a little bit the first one is an open

[78:19]tone where it's played with four fingers near the rim of the head okay pregnant bosses the second one

[78:27]is a closed or flesh tone or simply a muff like an open tone it's made by striking the

[78:36]drum with four fingers but holding the fingers against the head to muffle the tone

[78:40]you're doing great doing great yep the third the third strike is called a bass tone it's

[78:48]played with the full palm rod that you play with the full palm

[78:51]in a slightly in a slightly cupped position somewhat off center

[78:57]and the final one rob the final the final way to play the conga drum is called a slap tone

[79:07]it's the most difficult technique but it produces a loud and clear popping sound

[79:13]the muted or pressed slap tone is played with an open tone while the hand

[79:18]rests against the drum head

[79:20]is there one

[79:24]is there one where you're crying afterwards

[79:27]that's the best joke i come up with rob you dumb shit

[79:32]oh god that's so good

[79:34]listen hey this is a musical podcast i'm talking about the way that

[79:41]this was direct off wikipedia rob i use your research style this is how you play the conga

[79:46]the good news is when you're working with i'm working with one-handed

[79:48]strokes they're your only option otherwise you want to just grab an air

[79:51]dang it i relapsed i was doing so well i gotta

[79:56]all right next up on the list let's see if you guys remember this one this is eric burton and

[80:02]war spill the wine you remember this one yes there used to be a wine shop called spill the

[80:07]wine in minneapolis dig that girl

[80:11]eric burton's erin who sings this song eric burton and war yeah let's keep

[80:18]it that way shut your mouth wow he walked right into that didn't he actually the singer on this

[80:24]song is terrible if i remember correctly yeah i don't think he's into singing so aaron i do want

[80:29]you to sing the song yeah listen to those congas i would say he's doing that what what what stroke

[80:37]do you think he's doing on that one that sounded a lot like a slap that sounded difficult i i think

[80:41]he was definitely doing the muffled tone he was he was he was striking the drum sometimes you get too close to the

[80:48]end of the song before you want to so you have to muffle it down and what this is this is a music

[80:55]podcast if you think about white castle keep it clean that beat just gets a little quick yeah you

[81:00]gotta slow down that beat you gotta keep the tempo slower because you can't you can't end the song

[81:04]when you're looking at steven tyler doing a flip you gotta wait until they're at the strip club

[81:08]aaron was talking about how he didn't like the slow tempo on carol king a few weeks ago he likes

[81:13]a faster tempo i'm never gonna live that one down i made a mistake i'm gonna have to make

[81:18]a three favorite albums in a row or like walking through a swamp i know i still love that rob rob

[81:24]started out this whole zoom call by saying guys do you think we're a little too dirty

[81:27]well he should have told me that before i looked at all the strokes for the bond

[81:33]the conga drum that was my fault i didn't get that instruction next week's list is going to

[81:37]be all the strokes for the bongo drum i can't wait for that but we got to stay on this week's

[81:41]list here's the number one would make more sense because they're shorter there's two of them

[81:47]all right here's the number one here's the number one conga song ever and this is a rosy favorite

[81:53]this is curtis mayfield we are the people darker than blue check this out this is awesome

[81:58]i know we've all got problems that's why i'm here to say i do love curtis mayfield

[82:04]i mean listen to those

[82:10]i mean there are no jokes to make here it's just beautiful music this is badass isn't

[82:17]it yes

[82:18]i was going to play a santana song but i remember at some point someone made a rob thomas santana

[82:28]joke and i thought i would get made fun of so i didn't put him on i looked it up and i think they

[82:31]used bongos on those not congas that's why i didn't put it on the list so they're sure they're

[82:36]shorter drums they use different strokes oh i love the curtis mayfield shout also because i was so

[82:41]smooth uh unsung influence on this album so russell you uh once again just incredible kudos on your list

[82:47]making nailed it boom nice too bad it's gonna be edited out because it's so dirty but

[82:51]all right let's get into feel like making love oh

[82:59]what is this song about aaron well it's about uh when uh when two people really man i was gonna go

[83:09]straight into the birds and bees and now you have to like really try i can't wait for aaron to give

[83:12]his birds of the bees speech to his son aaron's just gonna put on this album and let his

[83:17]son listen to it say do you understand that's all you need and he'll be fine deal russell that's so

[83:21]smart i'm gonna invite you to come out for that you just like uncle russ is gonna read you about

[83:25]the different conga strokes i learned today this song so originally recorded by roberta flack who's

[83:30]one of our podcast faves uh was written by eugene mcdaniel and eugene mcdaniel uh had a really

[83:37]influential psychedelic funk soul album called um headless horseman of the apocalypse uh that was

[83:43]people talk about it as the the aloe

[83:47]black said this in an interview that it was the what's going on but he wasn't asking what's going

[83:50]on he was telling you what's going on and the nixon administration asked his record label to

[83:56]scrap it so um eugene mcdaniel ended up being pretty uh you know kind of tossed on the the

[84:02]the funeral pyre of history but he's a great uh funk soul

[84:06]pioneer and he wrote this song and then roberta flack recorded it and then uh

[84:10]d'angelo did his own thing with it it's great tune can you imagine being d'angelo and saying

[84:17]making love and then you can actually like do something about it that is such a foreign concept

[84:20]i don't think i've ever said like oh i feel like making love and then like gone and done it i'm

[84:26]always like okay well i'm gonna go to bed a little early tonight we'll just see what happens it's

[84:31]like i'm i'm tired i'm going to sleep i'm like yeah me too i'm very tired i've always been way

[84:35]more successful when i say i feel like eating white castle and then i just pound that crave case

[84:40]i'm batting a thousand hall of fame

[84:42]it's me

[84:46]me at night yeah i'm tired too what are you doing nothing why does it smell like onions

[84:53]hey why are you walking around with your eyes closed in the bedroom eating white castles

[84:58]that's it podcast over perfect callback guys this is the perfect episode i'm gonna call it right now

[85:04]best episode ever here we go oh that means it's gonna be the worst

[85:08]always listen this song sums it up great day and morning great groove no idea what he's saying he

[85:15]could be talking about like q and a and stuff like that but he's not gonna be talking about it

[85:16]i would have no idea what he's talking about that would be surprising all right this is the big boy

[85:24]how does it feel it's called untitled this was the song that put this album absolutely on the map

[85:33]the song or the video and it was 100 the video if you look up in fact i'll put in the show notes i'll

[85:39]put a link to this video okay this will probably get us kicked off apple podcast but this was a

[85:46]beforehand because this was a video where literally it just is zooming to different

[85:50]parts of d'angelo's naked torso all the way down to like the hip bones those v-shaped muscles

[85:59]which oh i got i got those yeah i have those two down there not even a big deal it's more like a

[86:05]u but it works this hit number 25 on the charts because of the video they played this video so

[86:10]many times before this the album was thought to be a bomb and this came out and it was a juggernaut

[86:16]of a video it played over and over and over and over i do think it's a great song i tried your uh

[86:22]your experiment rob you know we put the kids read read books put them to bed and i said oh

[86:27]rob's got this video he wants you to watch sarah oh no and put the put it on like yeah that's kind

[86:34]of cool and then just put the phone down and went so it didn't work it didn't work for me

[86:37]i think that did work though because if she would have been like oh my god this is the

[86:42]hottest thing i've seen in my life you'd be sitting there like wait a minute what

[86:45]rob you sent us this video and if you guys scroll down a little bit on youtube

[86:49]if you guys scroll down a little bit just in case and looked at the youtube comment i love this quote

[86:55]about this it said halfway through this song and i'm already pregnant i thought it was just an

[87:00]amazing comment for whoever the youtuber is that put that out there i i applaud you for skipping

[87:06]the pregnant pause and just going right for it it was fantastic the weird thing is is that that

[87:10]first commenter on this video is alicia silverstone it doesn't make any sense

[87:13]so

[87:13]you're going to be like oh my god you're going to be like oh my god you're going to be like oh my god

[87:15]and the thing about this right is that this is the song that absolutely buried

[87:20]d'angelo the tour for this album was a disaster because he would go out he'd be singing in 30

[87:26]seconds later they don't care about you know the people coming that would see this video and then

[87:31]go to his concert they didn't care about prince they didn't care about the funk they didn't care

[87:35]about any of this stuff they would literally be yelling to him take off your clothes right now

[87:39]that's what i want to see he this this video was so sexy that it pretty much ruined his life

[87:45]for like three years can you imagine something so sexy that's like all people can think of when they

[87:50]think of you no no no rob i can't imagine i can't imagine it but i think thank you for bringing it

[87:54]up but no i can't but i think it's real for him i think it's real i think it has to do with where he

[88:00]how he grew up he was a true church musician that's how he was raised that's how he was steeped

[88:07]and then when he left church music he was devoted to learning new music and learning the funk and

[88:12]learning soul and he says it on black messiah 15 years later if you've asked him where i've been i

[88:17]hope inside my abdomen that you're referring to and we as brilliant we as dudes who haven't looked

[88:25]like him can't imagine how that feels but he it really messed him up to be a sex symbol he didn't

[88:31]he didn't like it and you know i mean props to him for feeling that that his music was the most

[88:37]important because he had something to say yeah whatever that's like rich people say go it's hard

[88:42]like give me give me a break yeah how many times has he had to take anyone to white castle and act

[88:48]like it was a great date give me a break i have no pity for him the idea of somebody's face looking

[88:53]happy when i take my shirt off it's such a foreign concept to me it boggles my mind

[88:58]it doesn't stop you from riding shirtless though

[89:02]just imagine right now on the job you have right now right that you go in and they say i'm sorry

[89:08]but you're too sexy you can't do this anymore you'd be like wait what this is the best day of

[89:12]your life i'm so happy this is awesome can't imagine now we have the last song on the album

[89:18]africa kind of a letdown i would say i read that uh i read that there are some reverse guitars on

[89:27]here so i think this is another thing elevada was doing where he was what is the reverse guitar i

[89:32]think it's that he was uh when you hold it upside down okay and then uh okay there's apparently a

[89:40]drum sample i was

[89:42]okay i'm gonna edit in one of your laughs that was bullshit okay i mean i was thinking he's

[89:46]probably playing them backwards it's like a beatles type thing i mean i do think the beatles

[89:49]are an influence on this album too which i haven't even mentioned and i'm remiss in mentioning this

[89:53]late but absolutely this this song i think encapsulates the simplicity and complexity

[90:00]kind of balance that he was striking all through

[90:03]there was a song and i want to say it's great day good morning where they actually ended it

[90:10]because they ran out of tape

[90:12]and the engineer was like hey this is just like you know she's so heavy so we're gonna keep it in

[90:16]there just like that tape for this album yeah yeah i mean i think that's part of it too the noise

[90:21]all right so that is it for voodoo and i gotta tell you aaron i i i can't give a real rating

[90:25]to this obviously because i've painted myself in this corner of only giving joke ratings

[90:29]this was one of these albums where this list has really been enlightening for me i first listened

[90:34]to this album i was like i don't get it by the third listen i was like this is so fun to listen

[90:38]to it was just it was just unbelievable so i guess thank you for being a fan of this album and i'll

[90:42]get out of here aaron what are you trying to make that bullshit into my podcast for all right here

[90:46]we go all the positivity in this town sucks get mad at aaron for thinking about something

[90:54]oh my god it's late so late this episode went so long it was worth it

[90:59]double album double episode it's true all right so let's get into our rating system

[91:07]russ let's start with you what do you think and the rating system before i forget is is

[91:11]this album this is at 28 is this album rolling well tone means it's perfect at 28 just where

[91:19]it should be did this album get rolling boned okay that means it should be higher than 28 it

[91:24]should not be so low on the list or is this a rolling groan this album is too high on the list

[91:29]which means that it should be uh it's too low of a number it should be a higher number therefore

[91:34]later on the list but sooner uh if you're going reverse numerically which is what rolling stone

[91:40]did going reversed

[91:41]i i had never heard of d'angelo before we started this quest i'd never heard of him until

[91:46]when the list got reset and matt noted that d'angelo jumped from like 400 up to 30

[91:51]i'd never heard these songs maybe i've heard these songs but i'd never recognized them

[91:55]and the only thing i knew is aaron was super excited about this and this really shocked me

[92:00]i really like this way more than i thought it i would to me it's a little bit one note it's kind

[92:05]of like the same slow drum it's the same kind of beat the whole time so it's a little bit one note

[92:10]but it's also the first album that i believe referenced the word mojo so i gotta give it

[92:15]credit that we're referencing the word mojo so i'm gonna give it a rolling well toned i you know

[92:20]it is only one note but it is a slap note and so i think that's that's a good one uh man i think it

[92:25]was i think it was a four four-fingered cuff slap i just get it right you don't want to let yourself

[92:33]down there's better ways to do that i am not ever going to say the term a four-fingered muff slap

[92:37]thank you matt what do you think i uh

[92:40]you know i'm not going to pretend to be as well versed as rosie in this album but i i definitely

[92:47]listened to a lot of d'angelo uh late high school early college and you know this was just a perfect

[92:55]time to kind of trying to figure out like what jazz was you know and try to figure out like why

[93:01]some of the stuff from the 80s was so popular the the prince you know i never really got prince

[93:07]but now listening to this album um

[93:10]and kind of going through the jazz phase i just went through and all that you know this is just a

[93:14]great uh kind of newer age jazz tone i think and i'm kind of struggling to get to the exactly how

[93:23]i feel about it but i think it's just it's not radio um it's easy listening you have like russell

[93:29]said you've got horns you got rhythm you've got vocals and it all comes together uh to a

[93:39]these songs are bangers personally you know i i i can understand why you think there's it's kind of

[93:46]a one note thing but i i just absolutely love going through this album and so i think it got

[93:52]rolling boned meaning it's too low on the list rob right i once again once i've done my initial

[93:59]bit i cannot remember i mean it depends what you mean low on the list i'll show you a diagram later

[94:04]i got a diagram i think matt you might have meant it got bass tone which means it got played

[94:09]with the full palm the full palm the full palm matt yeah man it's like it's like that book that

[94:16]you got the list is really relative right all relative uh so i know i think i think you got

[94:22]rolling boned and um you know it's hard for me to say which ones we should jump ahead of here but

[94:29]i just think this is a great album and it came out at a great time and

[94:33]yeah i thoroughly enjoyed it uh all right so aaron uh what did you think of this i think the song

[94:39]sucks oh aaron why would you say that about d'angelo two albums

[94:43]even on the old list he was a top 500 artist and you're just gonna rag on him damn

[94:50]would you say this is a big album a big album that's what i'm gonna start calling my penis

[94:58]here's what i have to say about this album i've already said

[95:04]more than anyone cares to hear about my thoughts on this album

[95:09]in the context of the list i feel that this is our first sort of throwback album on the list right

[95:18]and yes i could be wrong the album is derivative in a good way in a great way

[95:24]and it took older ideas and made them his own um and so for me as i've said it's one of my top

[95:35]five favorite albums i listened to it so many times this week i'm not going to stop listening

[95:39]to this album when we're done so i will love this album forever i'm going to surprise you

[95:44]and i'm going to say i feel like it's rolling well toned as far as a specific number it is

[95:52]to me better than many of the albums that we've heard that rank higher on the list above it but

[95:58]i think we might hear albums that come after it that this album borrowed from and so i'm going to

[96:04]say it's rolling well tone as a number 29 but for me as you know personally it's one of my all-time

[96:09]favorites the predecessors aren't getting their credit you're saying i'm saying yeah this album

[96:13]you know would is looking to the four mothers and fathers and so i those people should also get their

[96:20]do as well get their flowers as they say you guys are close but the correct answer is this album

[96:24]gets a rolling hip bone all i can think about are his hip bones when i think about this album

[96:28]he's too sexy i mean this video to make a to make a song like this and then to actually look sexy

[96:33]how often does that happen that almost never happens it's crazy you know i think i'm one of

[96:38]those of that i'd have to go on like a three i'd have to go on like a 300 day fast to ever claim

[96:43]all right so next up we have number nine number nine number nine number nine we have beatles a

[96:55]white album the album we were getting ready to do before the emergency list took over you know what

[97:00]guys i like this album so much you know what great i'm gonna give it actually a d plus angelo again

[97:08]oh that's not right you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time

[97:14]but you're just too lazy to look it up online

[97:19]if you want to hear from guys who chat and then they get off track

[97:24]i've got the perfect podcast for you jack beck did it better

[97:32]oh wait you guys didn't do it you

[97:38]got them we got them the only funk i brought to this podcast was that onion breath from that

[97:46]last trip i made to white castle we got the funk ow i got the funk

[97:52]sir you'll notice all of our crave cases that are under glass you need to ask us to

[97:58]ah yes i will never return goodbye hey i'm sorry i hate to interrupt you while you're

[98:04]doing the scanning but i need to get in their crave case out of that glass case over there

[98:08]Ha, ha, ha.