D’Angelo: Voodoo (2000)

[0:00]In 2020 four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums as decided by Rolling stone magazine this resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music excoriated the Order and led us to making this podcast we are far from experts and we promise to do almost no Research all opinions are our own unless you disagree please sit back and enjoy back did it Better listen up guys i've got i've got my crank up radio here i've been cranking this thing All day long so it is charged up let's get started i thought we were going to talk about Cranking i know that's right we are going to set so i've got some goals for the podcast we'll talk About it after this intro just let me crank it a little bit more all right here we go so Off to a great start we're good we're good to go here we go Oh i love this song like a jam we want pie up front on the stove from the sky Watch us all fly to ny for a slice of jenny's pie Cherries apples ripe with time bring them all to ny to be part of jenny's pie

[1:00]This is too basic i want more junior mints candy corn swedish fish knickers bars throw it all into Jenny's pies sour patch kids juju bees mike and nikes sugar babies bag of skittles hot tamales All Nice what the hell is this all about how can this be makes me shout a pie with candy i'd rather die Bring me a real fucking pie French silk raspberry pecan date gooseberry please bring me some actual pie i'm so hungry right now Huckleberry i'll even take a little ice cream please don't mess Greatness please just bring me some real pie Fall in line for a slice of actual pie

[2:00]A slice of real fucking pie I'd rather die for a slice of real pie Fall in line for a slice of real pie Oh my god when you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time If you want to hear from guys who chat and then they get off track I've got the perfect podcast for you jack that makes no sense to anybody You just gotta roll with it that's one of the pluses of you not listening Is you can make all these jokes Right Welcome everybody to the therapeutic davenport Of love just here for you freaks who want this exclusive content hanging out here with us and With me i've got three guys who are pretty much the opposite of d'angelo in every single way i

[3:00]Can possibly think of let's say hello we've got russ in minnesota russ how are you doing I hope our listeners are enjoying this podcast and stereo from the left and to the right the back The middle and the front pump it up in the club a little bit of rub a dub i know you love us because We're funky we just want to show you some love i'm assuming those are lyrics from this album Which i understood none of for the whole time i'm assuming those are lyrics from this album which i Understood none of for the whole time i'm assuming those are lyrics from this album which i understood none of for the whole time So i'm gonna assume that's a great job Matt minneapolis how are you doing matt doing excellent i thought i'd get in on this Lyric game here oh i love it drugs and thugs women wind three or four at a time watch them All stand in line to listen to beck did it better yeah oh yeah happy to be here rob And i got aaron out in california aaron how are you doing i don't like when matt brings All this energy at the beginning of the podcast it makes me uncomfortable makes me Tired i'm tired don't make me do it guys because if we're gonna do lyrics from the album you know

[4:00]I'm gonna want to go you know i'm gonna want to go straight to lila set your on fire so there's Already our bleep joke of the week well there we go we just talked about it five minutes ago We talked about this we had a state of the podcast and a state of the podcast address is always a Time where i take the guys and i just give them a little spank and i'm like listen this is when You've talked over me this is when you haven't laughed at my jokes this is how we're gonna fix The podcast so i'm just gonna tell everybody right now i'm gonna try to talk more slowly And we're going to embrace the pregnant pause Yeah i don't like that at all and we are going to try to be less dirty so here we go we are not Off to a great start on that but we are going to do it from here on out i'm going to rub off the Whiteboard we have gone zero minutes without a dirty joke all right so i don't like i don't Like when my pauses cause pregnancy i don't like pregnant pauses i don't like that at all Yeah normally pauses cause people to not get pregnant but it's so okay so i'm going to rub Off the whiteboard one more time and now from now on now i'm now i'm going to rub off the whiteboard Now i'm serious about this here we go all right so let's get right into it today we are

[5:00]Talking oh i didn't even say what album we're talking about today we are talking about d'angelo's Voodoo and it is number 20 but anyway we got a voicemail let's go to the beck line Hey boys this is sarah from minnesota that sounds a little familiar calling in i just Listened to your carol king episode and had a couple of things to react to She sounds nervous so glad to hear more match yes please match well it seems like a plant Has been pretty quiet the last few episodes so i loved hearing i would say only about the last 35 Or so hey that's fred's calling you to say i'm excited to hear more bad but cuts absolutely Totally remember butt cuts thank you sarah them at the time see butt cut it is a real thing guys I told you that's a real phrase people know it My wife yelled at me she goes you know all of these people from richfield that had butt cuts

[6:00]And we called them but i'm like i don't know i don't is your wife listening to the podcast or Not yes she is it's not good that sarah this sarah you wonder why i've been quiet the last Few episodes because all of a sudden my wife's listening so i've got to clean it up my favorite Thing is how matt's wife would initially proclaim she wanted nothing to do to listen listening to Four random white dudes talking to each other and i'm like i don't know what to do with that Talking about their lives and now she's one of our dedicated listeners and yet matt doesn't Even know that we've cut out major sections of the previous podcast in his intro song Dang parody song means nothing it turns out she doesn't like four white guys but when it's just Three and a half because matt barely says anything she loves that she thinks that's great All right let's keep going with the voicemail here totally remember butt cuts thank you sarah Supported them at the time going back to college for just a day i'd go for a week Without a doubt hearing the song wrecking ball before

[7:00]What i've had numerous comments to this rosie completely baffled by that Anyways tuesdays are my best days because i get to see a new episode from you guys Popping up on my feed thanks for all the laughs and jim horn for life all right thank you for Back with more jim horn i can tell you the listeners are way back from where we're recording Guys because she's talking about stuff i cannot remember talking about in the least with between Butt cuts and then wrecking ball and jim horn i multi-instrumentalists of course very famous so Positivity we're the new positive podcast You know what time it is it's time to make fun of aaron oh yeah don't worry he likes it I don't own a microwave still i can't believe it still the idea that you don't own a microwave

[8:00]Every time i open my microwave i think to myself what does aaron do in this situation what's worse The fact he doesn't own a microwave or that he's never he never heard wrecking ball What's more baffling wrecking ball my microwave i mean that's yeah i don't understand how i never Heard that one have you listened to wrecking ball since then have you checked it out i've Not i've i'll be honest i've not no because i'm listen we're going to talk about this in real and Very focused on this run how do we make fun of aaron for not knowing wrecking ball when Literally i've never heard of d'angelo and he's got the 29th greatest album of all time so i don't Think we can make fun of aaron for not knowing wrecking ball aaron is buying parts to his record Player to help him listen to d'angelo and at the same time he has not listened to wrecking ball It's true it's very strange i'm guilty let's get into making fun of aaron by the way this is what Aaron said that i just have one five second clip and i want to bring this up is this isn't so much Making fun of aaron i just want to peer more into this we do actually hang our what Laundry from the ceiling but that's not that interesting let's keep going now during you Cannot hear that last week's show because we both talked over him and then ignored him after he said

[9:00]That but i aaron i gotta hear what the fuck are you doing hanging laundry up like are you Laura's ingles wilder what is your deal we do have a phrase ingles yeah it's plural this is a very Cool shit i heard it on sesame street i think we've had this thing in two different places We've lived now and it's never fallen out of the ceiling it is this thing a dryer because if this Thing is a dryer that you're talking about you do not need to hang them up you have to vent out Sometimes you gotta go through the ceiling to vent it he's got like the 500 over the joists and I'm trying to hang he's got like a 500 pound drying machine hanging from the ceiling in his Basement he's like we gotta hang this dryer up it's just like you can see like the beans just There's an anvil on the bottom i'm gonna start this dryer and then we immediately have to run Out of the room because it starts to dry and then we immediately have to run out of the room because it starts to dry And then we immediately have to run out of the room because it starts to dry it's swinging like a son of a Bitch in here i don't know how people use these things but i guess hang up your clothes is what I've heard it's swinging around like a helicopter and aaron's like ducking his head and running for

[10:00]This running for upstairs yeah so nothing about the truth is any better than the story you're Telling but we do own and we've used it in two different places a very cool apparatus that is a Sort of pulley lever kind of system that has a piece of you know rope that is you know Connected to the Clothes hanger situation and then that is bolted into the ceiling because we've always lived in Small places and so you lower it down hang the clothes over it and then you hoist it up to the Top and then you hook it around the little cleat that's in the wall to hang it up because Like we got a lot of clothes that don't need drying like all your cycling clothes your exercise Clothes these don't need to be dried your sweaters these need to be hung hang dry and we don't have a Outdoor clothesline so we hang them up inside the house you also wash your clothes with like a Or some sort of grate where you guys like sit outside and rub them against the stone or not It does not need to be cleaned in a real washing machine hanging from my ceiling

[11:00]So i'm just gonna go outside and scrub it against this rock for two hours No there's no hand washing for the most part i gotta say aaron's story doesn't Add up at all so his point is that he has a small house okay we've established that aaron Has a small house so he then fills it up with his clothes that are drying how does That make any sense like we're just supposed to say oh you have a small place so you'd hang up Your clothes inside on the floor side note if we had a dog the dog would not be eating these Underwear because they'd be hanging from the ceiling so it's a perfect solution rob i'll send You one so do you own a dryer yes we own a dryer yeah but some stuff this whole thing's Fucked then this whole conversation is messed up i don't get it some clothes are just better to not Go in the dryer they last longer they you know your stuff doesn't shrink up too short like in Your you know waffle cut long sleeves you know like those things shrink up too short and

[12:00]All of a sudden you get midriff shirts if you throw them in the dryer too many times you guys Understand i think that's why you gotta go champion reverse sleeves yeah well i'd not see I'm still working i'm building up i'm building up my collection hey rob i think we already have Our make fun of aaron material i was gonna come back to it i was gonna come back To it well here what maybe can i chime into it because i think i know what you've got Okay first of all you chiming in about anybody doing the wash is totally fucked i just want to But yes i will allow you to speak us and i are the only normal wash guys on this podcast do The laundry i just don't fold the laundry no one has to put it i get the laundry done And we're embracing the pregnant pause You guys don't even want to know what just happened over here during that Don't wait for the joke and don't talk about how i spilled some diet coke on my shirt here And all that shows up on the zoom i don't need to hear that either okay visual joke nine months Before you guys well it really i mean really it's like 10 months because 40 weeks is closer to 10

[13:00]Months than nine months it's kind of the that's true you know i'll let you know luckily i did My pregnant pause four weeks ago it's nine months also appropriate for this album i can't believe i Spilled diet coke on the shirt well better hang it from the ceiling i mean that doesn't make Any sense i'm gonna send you guys a picture and then you're gonna be jealous you're gonna want one Of these apparatus they're really they're they say oh please do i can't imagine what a Clothing line looks like i mean what are you talking about like aaron i gotta ask you like When i've come i've came out and visited you and your wife a few times over the last you know Five ten years or whatever i've probably been out there three two three times or whatever Yeah when i show up do you guys like hide all this stuff because you're like oh russell's gonna Lose his shit if he sees like all our clothes hanging from the ceiling do you hide This deviant behavior that you guys have out there no I mean i this might be funny too i mean the clothes hang in our bedroom and i guess we Didn't invite you into our bedroom when you came out to visit so maybe some friends you are maybe

[14:00]We should have maybe we should have really taken our friendship to the next level guess what russell You come visit me in new york the first place we're gonna go is my bedroom okay i'm gonna show You that my better friend than aaron for sure i promised i will not show your wife the pregnant Pause i won't do it Pregnant pause all right so this is not a sustainable bit we cannot keep going all right So now that we're 50 minutes into this podcast for the pauses It's time to see what everybody's up to it's time for rolling going oh yeah i picture aaron like Getting to his bed and he's like going through it's like the jungle you know but it's just like A bunch of cycling shirts and sweatpants and stuff like that it's like a bunch of cycling shirts and Sweaters and you know who knows what else you can't drive that's true that does happen because It's right off the corner where either you go through the jungle of clothes hanging from the

[15:00]Top or you crank your aren't like your knee on the corner of the bed no yeah you know i mean you end Up with a bruise in that corner anyway it's time to see what everybody's up to so you have So many clothes up that you run into the bed like you're just walking around blind honey keep Clapping so i can find where the bed is like this makes absolutely no sense i love how the Water's just like dripping all over his bed and everything like they just got puddles of water From their hanging clothes and okay while the dryer's down there hanging by itself Once i go into the room because it's usually dark my lady goes to bed before i do usually Maybe this is too much information you might have to cut this out nice work i like to Try to get into my side of the bed with my eyes closed like i like to walk into the bedroom and See if i can make it with my eyes i don't know why oh no be quiet i'm gonna play this on a loop For the rest of the podcast oh shut up so what you now i'm not i'm just gonna point

[16:00]This out what aaron said is not that he gets into bed with his eyes closed and i didn't listen To why and i don't care what aaron said was what i like to do is i like to try to get into the bed So he this is something he looks forward to he's like oh yes my wife is asleep i'm gonna Oh what should i do i could do yeah i could do anything i want Let's see what can i do i can go read some french poetry out in the tent in the garage I can rambo i can go downstairs and ignore the dryer or i can close my eyes and try to get into Bed oh i know what i'm gonna do this is gonna be so fun oh wait i've got a sweater stuck around Me help me help me it's a fascinating life that i lead i can't i can't lie about that Hey back to the future volume two make fun of aaron It really is we could just shut this podcast down and do next week so we can do it right after this This is no problem whatsoever rolling go on rob how's it going with you why don't we start with

[17:00]You all right let's start let's start with me i do have a good one today because i felt very much Like russell at the post office this week i had a number of experiences where i was like this is What russell feels like at the post office completely incompetent i got into The elevator in my building and all of a sudden as the doors were closing this extremely attractive Woman got on okay even with half A mask i could still tell she was very attractive and she got on or no she was on first and then i Got in the elevator and she looked she was on first what do you mean by that Well you wait to get on and then now the new thing is you kind of have to make sure people Motion you on because getting on an elevator when people don't want you on the elevator is Poor form so she's on the elevator i hop on she goes what floor are you going to i said seven She said okay she pushes nine she pushes seven she pushes nine very nice great Except for i don't live on seven i live on 14 and i forgot okay the building i work in i work on the Seventh floor so then she pushed seven and i was with the dog and i was like she was on nine so i

[18:00]Was like well i can't just tell her like no actually it's 14 you know what i mean so i literally Got off the elevator oh you gotta get off and then there's all these other people on the floor like Putting away the recycling or doing stuff in their apartment so i had to get off look around and be And do the big like oh no and then push up and go back into 14 i'm like a fucking idiot Did you at least wait for her to go back up you got off and wandered around right i got off because I was like what if yeah what if i push up and then get back on the same elevator that she's there so The door just closes and then it immediately opens up and i get back on i go what if she did The same thing rob and she screwed up and she was only supposed to be at four or five and she Accidentally said nine and you said seven and it was just like it was meant to be so then the Eight minutes later a few more false floors a pregnant pause later it was a grand old time Maybe she got is doing a podcast right now where she's like listen this really attractive guy got

[19:00]In the elevator i got totally flustered i went to the wrong floor no no i don't i don't Talk about that mustache i don't mean to burn it rob it didn't happen i was scared for my Life i didn't know what to do i asked him what floor he told me seven and immediately looked Very confused and didn't know what to do So then i also this week i ran out of deodorant okay and actually to be honest i ran out of Deodorant about two months ago and i have been using my wife's deodorant now i don't think There's anything wrong with using your wife deodorant i think that is fair game i never ever Tell her i would never tell her she'll be pissed if she ever listens to this podcast so i'm set for The rest of my life not worried about that and the so i i go down to the duane reed which is in my Building right and i go to get the deodorant they now have the deodorant behind glass that you have To get the deodorant so i have to go like razor blades where you have to have a lock to get them Out or what is that a deodorant i don't know i i don't know if they're so expensive but i have to Go ask somebody what to unlock the deodorant and then i have to say to them yes i would like the

[20:00]You know must the extra sweaty man yeah i would like the musk bear smell shark man like superman Deodorant like i because i'm telling you one of my favorite days of all time and i've said this All the time is growing up i love it when i run out of deodorant and i get to go pick a new type It's one of the highlights of my week well not week i don't buy deodorant that often but whenever I buy deodorant it's i love shopping because there's all these different fun kinds of deodorant And you can pick all these different things yeah i love it i think it's great i i i love all the new Like super masculine flavors is that the right term like the flavors i hope it's not a flavor Maybe a scent well anything's a flavor if you try hard enough rob are you a science teacher You don't know like the five senses listen i don't have time for teaching that stuff okay i'm much too At school listening to these albums but it's so embarrassing because now i basically am not Going to buy deodorant and in fact i went to another duane reed in manhattan it was also Under glass so i just walked out i mean i i what else is under glass

[21:00]I don't know i think like oh you know laundry detergent is cigarettes like stuff that stuff That gets stolen what would be the most embarrassing thing you would have to ever go by and ask for them To open the glass to buy like is it condoms what would be the thing where you'd be terrified to go Ask the lady that way and read to open the glass to open it for what right oh my god i would love To buy condoms and i'd be like what give me your smallest most normal size condoms that you have Like that's what i want condoms are so big i get condoms sometimes i use it when i used to get Condoms oh we weren't gonna do this we weren't gonna do this i was always like they're so big And then there's that little tip on the end i remember in health class they'd always be like Oh make sure you squeeze that tip when you put it on otherwise yeah otherwise and i was like How much do you think is coming out like do you think there's so much coming out that if i Don't squeeze that tip this whole thing's gonna fly off like a balloon like a water rocket like I was like this makes no sense like even then i was like squeeze the tip that doesn't even make How does that make any sense but that was like the one thing i remember from my health class

[22:00]Was squeeze the tip but the other day i had to go in and aaron you might relate to this Because you're talking about foot care do you guys have toenail fungus i've got to put some stuff on My toenails like hey rob maybe this was the other thing we shouldn't have talked about if we Wanted to get listeners yeah this is a we should just cancel this now there's no there's no reason Okay you guys can toenail shame me all you want but all it does is make your toenails like a little Yellow and a little thicker you know like old man toenails so i get a thing where i brush it on and Then my toenails are totally healthy so then if you have something that's fixing this problem Rob i need to know we're at 100 listeners this is bad i think if i had to ask somebody to go Unlock the toenail fungus brush i would that would be a bummer to me rule number one For once we get into the 30s we never let rob go first on rolling going ever again Rolling going how's it going with you i feel like i'm being usurped here You served great word were you done rob i didn't want to interrupt is that a constellation you Served just kidding i was going to ask if you guys like to buy anything but i think russ's

[23:00]Question was actually much better so let's just move on i was going to introduce a new segment This week called just effing quit it already oh just effing quit it my My question is this i've had i've had a couple of experiences this week where i literally i just Wanted to quit what i was doing and just move on with life but like the thing i don't know if It's for my parents or what it's from there's like nope you got to see things through so one of them And i don't want to keep coming back to this so i'm gonna go probably it's quite listening to the Podcast i just want to quit this marriage already i can't listen i can't handle listening to this Is it squeezing the end of the condom oh no No so i I was doing keep going i was doing a peloton ride and i instantly it was 90s country and i'm like Oh this will be good little 15 minute i just needed a quick 15 minute ride i'm like this will

[24:00]Be good i like 90s countries but the only country i like yeah and then literally a minute and a half In the instructor was just painful and i just wanted to be like oh no i'm out i'm out but like The whole counter thing and you know like this is gonna mess up like my my count so i was like i Just i just kind of i just Gutted it out for 15 minutes and just i will never take a class with that person again And then can you just turn it on mute or take off your headphones probably yeah that would have been A good russell you're so smart you like that yeah that's very nice i should have probably done That a couple hundred thousand dollars of school loans later and here i am talking to us on friday I don't like the way this looks and sounds turn it off Sounds good and then The other one was i was reading a book and i got it for my mother-in-law for christmas And about 30 pages in i was like this just is not for me yeah but like i have i don't know if i've

[25:00]Ever not finished a book or consciously not finished a book but in in all reality if you Don't like a book you should just ditch it right and you're holding it up right now and the book Title is why divorce is a good thing please divorce your wife and i you're not that seems Like a weird book for her to give you i don't like that yeah i hear you Is there anything you guys now that you're you know adults at least by age i don't Know about how you act or anything like that but is there anything that it's okay to just quit and Move on well every exercise regime i ever take up i tend to quit it and i just feel like That's been okay for me yeah but am i am i irrational in my thinking like Like if a book's not good just get rid of it and chuck it and things like that am i Holding on to i think you're you're you're on to something matt i think i used to read a lot i've Read a little less the last few years but whenever i would get into a book and i would always say i Have to finish it and normally if i would get a quarter of the way into a book and i wasn't enjoying

[26:00]It nothing would ever change by the end of it that made me enjoy it and aaron's gonna hate me for This but one of the books that really was like this for me was moby dick i remember reading that Book and thinking oh this is one of these classics i'm supposed to love it and about you know 100 Pages in i was like this I'm not into this at all i don't get it this does nothing for me but i said i have to finish it and I finished it i was like man i would have really read rather had those like 400 pages back in my Life oh really when he staves in the pequa and everything he's not doing it a spoiler Alert for moby dick i don't hate you for that part where he was determining where to stay But i'm but i'm with you matt i i wish i would have given up on more books in my life because Usually if something feels like it's not happening it never shifts And flips and the second half but then this whole conquest we're on you know listening to the 500 albums i have found numerous times where it's like god damn it just end this album already and

[27:00]It goes on and on but you know we we've set a goal for this one so i i think i can't Can't quite fully embrace it yet until we get done with this conquest but i i don't know i always Think that applies or whatever it is i always think that applies to people dating out of high school And every time i say that every time i say this very erudite like very smart thing to somebody i'm Having a conversation with somebody i don't know 100 of the time they go well i married my high School sweetheart i'm like shit even when i taught high school i would tell the kids whoever you're Dating right now break up with them go to college if you still like each other when you come back You can still date each other like in the summer don't worry about it but i think there's something That people say like oh no you got to stick with stuff you gotta i mean i don't think anybody is A high school person into college it's a huge bummer you get to college and all of a sudden There's all these people who are attractive and they don't know that super dumb thing you did in Eighth grade it's like heaven i assume that's why i didn't date a ton in college is that i had a

[28:00]Girl from high school but well there goes about 10 of our listeners that are females and have Diluth accents that probably married their high school boyfriends right diluth accents Oh hey there hey guys i got a fresh new set of bars meet my Husband slash prom date this is richard what a dick the other 50 of the listeners we just lost Are the ones where they're now convinced well i've never liked this podcast maybe i should stop Listening to it so bad that was a terrible piece of guide damn it oh cut it out crossing this now Her podcast is on their spreadsheet of shit they want to get rid of this podcast oh great i don't Have to go on the journey with these guys you shitheads have to finish this podcast there's No escape for you this is the way i'll be honest russell the one thing i did quit was the moby dick Podcast because i started making i started being on this podcast that sounds just terrible i i quit You're just lining up make fun of aaron's left and right the moby dick podcast like what are we Even talking about it's a really good podcast they go is talia laughing they go chapter by chapter

[29:00]About moby dick it's really great but i you can't like you guys know you can't listen to podcasts And be on a podcast that's the whole problem with trying to market your podcast i'm gonna Unsubscribe from my favorite podcast 101 condom jokes I just found that out what episode are you on number one i was on number one it was yeah it was The bit about the end i don't know because of my girlfriend from high school i'd never had to Use a lot of condoms in college and that's the only reason why it definitely isn't my face or Body pregnant pause by the way you see i didn't mention personality because that's what i've got Like crazy roll and go on aaron how's it going with you I'm a little bit stressed guys i'm gonna be honest with you i'm a little bit stressed so i'm going to Talk about something that's been stressing me out and then i'm going to talk about something that Eased my stress a little bit so that's that's where i'm at tonight keep it clean this run of Look at i'm staying out of this three albums that we're on so folks at home who are listening this

[30:00]Is a music podcast where we're going through the rolling stone list of 500 albums this run of Three albums of wu-tang entered the 36 chambers D'angelo voodoo and then next week with the white album by the beatles These three albums are in my top five of all-time most played albums these are albums i know so well And i feel a lot of pressure on myself to try to say something useful and intelligent about this Art that has been so important to me in my life good luck to you yeah you gotta let that go and i Can't do it and then with this one in particular not only is d'angelo one of my musical heroes in This album one of my favorites but as i've read more about the album learn more about the album Quest love amir thompson was such an important part of making this album he was my absolute you Guys know he was my absolute 100 pandemic internet best friend and hero he was doing dj sets every

[31:00]Night from first of april maybe even earlier all the way up to the end of the year and then he was Through the summer i watched him every night when i wasn't talking to you guys i learned so much About music from him and he's such an integral part of this album that then to understand the Encyclopedia of music that these guys were pulling from i can't listen to enough music to try to Understand this album and i can't listen to this album enough to try to say something about this Album and it's got me stressing so i can't do yep you got it russell you know no Listen to these albums perfect is that part of this podcast so the thing i want to know what you Stress what did you eat to get rid of the stress today erin s'mores how many grilled chickens How many grilled chickens you had a sandwich with a side of shirt that fell on yeah from his How many salads did you have today i did have salad for lunch and actually i had Salad for lunch with a veggie chicken patty which is like super delicious i love those but they

[32:00]Interrupted him like seven hungry after an hour it just doesn't work but for dinner tonight for For dessert we had s'mores And there were these beautiful mini s'mores that my lady ordered from a person who she Went to grad school with so these are s'mores built on like quiet for a second i'm telling you Right now you are getting ripped off by mini s'mores i will sell you half a graham cracker A tiny piece of chocolate and a mini marshmallow you do not need to order that from somebody i will Literally show you where to buy that stuff at a store you can easily fit three marshmallows and A couple chocolates into those bags i don't know anybody who has a s'more and is like you know what I wish this was mini i wish this was way smaller But yeah i mean but with like a little you know 3.75 year old kid he's like Warming up the mini marshmallows over the candle it's beautiful it's perfect But what i need to know it's it's almost child abuse in my book what i need to know Because i don't want to i don't want to do the thing where i talk for my entire rolling going And i don't involve i'm not inclusive of you all where you're trying to start conversations here

[33:00]Yeah that's what i'm doing i need to know what your marshmallow style is because i typically am A very patient slight light golden toaster and i don't want to do that because i don't want to do But i need to know what your marshmallow styles are as an uncle i'm the guy who shoves that That marshmallow right to the fire and lets it flame up as big as possible yeah and then watch My nieces and nephews go crazy over the flaming marshmallow and then you kind of hold it up let It let it flame up for a little bit and then you blow that sucker out i stick it right in the show You know i like that's what my wife does too and i think that's real psychopathic stuff i like that That's my nickname the show oh it's just so gross to watch just you destroy this perfectly good ball Of sugar and just totally burn you out of the fire It's disgusting it's like taking a car new like a new sports car and just hitting it a couple times With a brick on the outside matt what's your style then i'll get back to me don't forget about you Have to start out by getting the top done first so you don't stick the marshmallow all the way down You get it just so that the stick is sticking out just very you have to get that first if you don't Get the top first you get the sides first it melts and then you try to get the top it falls off so

[34:00]You got to get the top first that's the key oh shit matt what are you doing in there That literally is the smartest thing i've ever heard anybody say you're totally right you cannot You cannot you can't you got to get the top first and then from there you find a spot That you can rest your stick on right you find something because if you're holding it over there You're going to start shaking you're going to get all over the place you've got to have Constant source of heat at the exact Same spot at all time and then you rotate to get it almost perfectly i would say a good A little bit more than golden a little bit darker golden is is how i get just before it Starts blistering a little bit but you get all the sides and the top and then you're good to go but You know what i used to do when i was younger is i used to put it in and then i would cook the Outside and this might surprise you guys i would then eat the outside and then cook the next layer

[35:00]And then eat the outside like cook the next layer just right off the thing it was looking back and It's probably not the greatest my parents should have probably stepped in at some point What were you gonna say russell i got nothing move on i don't know i i would guess that aaron's i think Aaron's that aaron's kid style of marshmallows was severe disappointment because he's cooking A small marshmallow over a candle like one of those real tiny ones on a toothpick he smells Like cinnamon apricot at some point he's gonna have a real s'more from like some real parents And it's gonna blow his fucking mind when he gets like a real marshmallow and it's Big and he's not doing it on his kitchen table over like a a candle and they're trying to Avoid setting the 300 shirts he's got hanging up on fire like it's gonna be so good for him Instead of like hiding adult magazines from his old man back in like 20 10 years from now he's Gonna be a teenager like hiding s'mores underneath his bed and stuff like that i'm out and doing S'mores aaron's gonna walk into like whose regular size marshmallows are these under this bed

[36:00]Who showed you how to cook these marshmallows you did dad you showed me how Pretty sure you could cook them in the microwave pretty quick can't you he's gonna go buck wild He's gonna have a microwave like underneath his bed that's a second smart comment that's a smart Shit aaron walks in he's like what are these ultraviolet rays going on in here i can tell I've got my measuring stick for these ultraviolet rays he has a sensor a microwave sensor i know You're using a little microwave in here so that's me this week a lot of stressing about This podcast this room is for children Two things it's for sleeping and it's for hanging up all your laundry there should be no microwaves Going out of here didn't uncle buck in the movie uncle buck didn't he dry his laundry by putting It in the microwave you don't have a zipper right like you're screwed i'm your uncle do we have an

[37:00]Uncle buck aaron were you gonna cap that off that was a good one aaron i gotta give you props for Thank you i was gonna say that was my week i was stressing about trying to Say something interesting about this album and then i was relieving that stress by eating s'mores Let me help you with your stress nobody gives a shit i know about these albums Nobody cares they just want to hear you laugh they want to hear rob call them dumb shits they Want me to be quiet and they want to hear russell with all of his wisdom that he comes up from the Backside and then some of those dating stories too and i've gotten some emails about condom advice so I don't know i think that's i delete them though you guys don't go look for it i don't like what You say that is you know what i'm sorry i said that actually because now that you said that i Do realize how gross that is okay so we're gonna move on russell rolling going how's it going with You well i've got to ask for dating advice if the people want dating advice they gotta ask for Dating advice right so i better go to the corner get in the corner god damn it's been a long time Come on get get to the corner it's time you haven't been in the corner for a while

[38:00]Oh yeah i like it all right who wants to spank russell first Oh wait i forgot what the corner is all about Man i just can't believe you have a paddle like that put that away i don't know why you have That for he's gonna use that holes in it so you get a look that's not the drag on it he's gonna Use that book he got called how to kiss your mother oh jeez i'll cut that out but it's funny to me What's going on i don't even know what's happening the book is called how to kiss Your mother-in-law and that's what he got okay keep going From my mother-in-law subtle hint wink Well there goes my ruling going from a year from now after this pregnant pause No we can't reference that anymore because it's getting cut out we can't do it Oh you know it's not good that's staying in you know it's staying in Rob never tells us if we're allowed to talk about when we're taping this or if we're supposed to be

[39:00]Talking about two or three weeks in the future when we release it so one so we're we're taping This two days from now we're going to be talking about two or three weeks in the future Two days before valentine's day i believe and so i don't have any specific valentine's day plans But i was wondering as a single guy if you start to meet someone and you hang out with them a little Bit when do you acknowledge valentine's day do you have to go on so many dates do you have to Have like a three-day buffer around valentine's day where you try to not hang out with each other Because you worried there's too much pressure what's what's the valentine's day advice For the single guy in the world first date on valentine's day russell straight up power move You're just all the biscuits in the basket at one time first date you're right out there Everything like they bring over champagne the whole thing you're like well yes this is a very Good i do the whole explanation about how i got the condoms behind the glass case and targeted My buddy rob showed me how to pitch off the tip of them or not oh i see in the receipt you also Got toenail fungus paint and it's like oh no and a book on how to kiss your mother

[40:00]And at least he's got moby dick on audiobook or Whatever it is right she gets in the car you're listening to call me These doors are locked i can't get out She crawls in the back seat she's got to climb over the stack of herbie bad albums it's a Complete disaster thanks for going on a date with me on valentine's day what valentine's day is not Till tomorrow oh god let me out of this car i mean i would say in in regular times like the world is So weird now i don't even know what you can do on a date but in regular times that seems like the Right you're like it's valentine's day i don't want to be out there with the amateurs at you know The two for a couple special night at the you know silly restaurant like let's go get a shot in A beer and play the nachos and let's hang out at the dive bar that's i feel like listen to some D'angelo on the jukebox that's how you know aaron is a good looking guy when that's the advice he

[41:00]Gives all right aaron best place you ever went for valentine's day i got a good one but What's the best place you've ever gone most memorable You know i think we did a valentine's day date at ordinary which is a great wine bar here in Oakland and there was a guy named chris kroner who used to do pop-ups there and kroner does The best burgers in america but then he would do these crazy pop-ups with that's funny you Mentioned that matt because actually the other night i was looking back at old like i was Searching old emails to see like when we had been at at ordinary for searching old emails I was like i was trying to remember like when did we go to the current to the bistro at ordinary For kroner and he it was in 2014 he did like an uni and buck emails or 2014 wait what don't You use gmail give me the food i don't know we gotta get into this next week for the making fun Of aaron segment we do not have time to get into why you have so many old emails and why in your

[42:00]Emails do you have listed what you've eaten like do you email yourself every night like add a burger So good Russell i'll do two quick things yeah one my my senior year of high school i think my Girlfriend had dumped me like a month before smart so that's a good move on her part taking It was great but and then she started dating rob and she had to dump him when she decided to drive Home fast ended up going ended up figuring out that white castle takes reservations On valentine's day i love this and so we went to so me and i'm trying to remember Who we went with but i think it was with another couple and like a friend kind of thing but we went To we went to white castle on valentine's day they had waiters waitresses they put tablecloths on the They had candlelit dinners at white castle it was the greatest thing in the world how many sliders Did you order matt i'm gonna fire off like two dozen text messages invites for this tonight But you had to make reservations you had to call i think it was someplace there's like a

[43:00]Central spot in minneapolis you had to call you know there used to be one on lake street i don't Know if it's still there but we went to the one in bloomington up did you walk in and They did they immediately say hey matt regular table and you're like oh no don't Act like i come here every weekend no we're moving up tonight sorry jerry we're taking two crave Cases tonight thank you very much crave case yeah leave the onions on the cheese matt you know What's sadder than going to a white castle with a reservation nothing is going there nothing going There with a date and then not having a reservation and getting denied at a white castle They're like standing out in line like it's midnight on like a friday night in downtown Russell i would say and then my advice is this if it's anywhere inside of like three or four months If you haven't been dating them for like a while like if they haven't met your parents yet or like You know your brother or something like that if they haven't met family then you just make up some Excuse like oh you know for the last 23 years i've been spending valentine's day with my grandma and

[44:00]Then just completely feel terrible that's too getting too close to home right now sorry grandma I really enjoy spending every valentine's day with you russell's grandma is like jesus christ i want To go to white castle get this guy out of there those candy flavored pies you make for me every Valentine's day are fantastic grandma don't stop downloading this podcast we need your downloads Russell i heard that talk about the pies Bring somebody else to white castle But i think valentine's day New year's and halloween are just i never had fun on them and they never end up taking They never meet expectations and you're always trying to have like this great time and it never Lives up to them and so just avoid it at all costs that's my that's my take so there you go There you go russell put on a smile head forward with that advice

[45:00]Avoid communication with people for like 10 Weeks around that time frame i'm down with that i can handle that i think if they have seen you Naked in the light of day then you can go on a valentine's date with them otherwise you can't do It what if they see me naked at white castle they're still talking to you put a ring yeah you Got holy shit such a good bet i'm not gonna lie right now this might be the best episode we've Ever done i think the condom stuff to the white castle stuff and some other stuff i did so funny And two out of the three things there were stuff you did what do you guys get what are you guys Getting your old ladies for valentine's day old ladies i need some advice please help Rob's gonna order it like two weeks late rob you need to order this a long time ago i was I was gonna get her some deodorant i'm lost now i'm screwed like the manly musk flavor as you Would call it oh no if i unlock the case maybe that's what i should do is unlock the case and

[46:00]Get one female scent in one of my books i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't Know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know And i'll be like oh yeah this is for my stinky wife yes that's a great idea do you think she'd Want to make out with her mother-in-law i send this book would that be a good what's going on This is bringing up all sorts of weird feelings for me Russell still doesn't get the book i'm gonna write this book for you russell i'm gonna show You this book joke so what are you guys getting for valentine's day anything any good Ideas nothing so yeah jenny's on a cut right now so if i get her chocolate she's gonna rip my head What to do yeah i ended up with some body oil like some massage oil and then a linen towel Are you gonna say that's not for your wife that's for you And then a nice pink linen towel that i thought looked pretty oh jeez erin i don't know

[47:00]How are you married i don't get it he's like sweetie this towel cannot be dried it will shrink So we do need to hang this up in the bedroom matt how about you are you doing like a certificate for Your wife where she gets to like make dinner for a few days or what's what certificate is she Getting from you she can fold the laundry oh my god it'll be good my mom my mother can stay home For a few days while you do the laundry here's your certificate laminate it and everything i'm Going to combine those ideas and i'm going to give my wife his certificate book and a bottle of Body oil just see where it goes i don't know we'll see what happens happy valentine's day rub me You're gonna get like a little box of those little candy valentine's with just a bunch of Inappropriate statements aren't you rob yeah i'm gonna bring it all together because it's Gonna smell like white gas also oh yeah oh real oniony

[48:00]Well russ great advice That's it time's up as always get out of the car these are the three people i go to for advice This is what i got this is my life Guys i just google it and white castle turns into love castle Under the 20 and but when's valentine's you can reserve it you can on sunday you can Reserve a parking spot this year not a table but a parking spot and you can reserve a parking spot And they will serve you out at your parking spot this year so it's still on if you want to make a Reservation well for all the girls that have been swiping on me today reservations made Russell's doing that classic movie thing where he's reserved two parking spots he's got two Different cars and he's got to go back and forth and change shirts each time All right guys let's get into a guy who had a lot of dates I'm doing rob's thing where we segue speaking of a guy who dated a lot of ladies

[49:00]Did he has a lot of pregnant pauses i'm guessing oh i mean i'm telling you if d'angelo did not date A lot of ladies he really must have screwed up big time because i want to date him after Listening to this album let's give a little bit of history on this album d'angelo is originally From virginia went up to the apollo in new york city won a couple weeks in a row of whatever Contests they had he literally just dropped out of school and moved to new york city after that And in 1995 he released the album brown sugar that had sorry about this he it had his Only billboard top 10 hit is that true is that fact true this is only billboard top 10 i think on The pop charts yeah i think untitled from voodoo went number two on the r&b but yeah This is a very 90s r&b song to me doesn't this sound like you're knocking the boots or it's like Yes and i wouldn't i wouldn't be a guy who lives in oakland if i didn't mention that a lot of brown Sugar was recorded in sacramento at rafael sadiq's studio rafael sadiq of oakland california you can

[50:00]Edit that out rob No now i have to edit you saying that out and so this is a whole complicated thing All right so basically d'angelo came out and he was he people were kind of Big on him because he was fusing soul and r&b and this was a time where he really this album Was so big this brown sugar opened the door for maxwell and erica badu and even the aforementioned Lauren hill on this podcast now after that album came out he kind of went through a rough time Where he said basically he had total writer's block he couldn't he couldn't he just couldn't Write a song he felt like he you can't write a song without going out and living his life So instead according to wikipedia he spent most of his time lifting weights and getting stoned Yeah i was like what a life sounds that sounds awesome that sounds like the perfect life like Why release another album i totally get it i think that's everyone's goal in life to get to That point right so and then he he said in the in the 2000s or late 90s he really hated The where r&b was going he felt it was really derivative of just basically r&b from a couple Years earlier and he really wanted to bring back soul and funk and he was talking about prince he

[51:00]Was talking about parliament he was talking about the ohio players and so he went into new york city And recorded this album at electric lady studios which we have already talked about With patty smith it's the same exact place where that was recorded this is a studio i found Out that was bought by jimmy hendrix a year before he passed away and jimmy hendrix recorded there And there's a lot of other great albums that have been recorded there and so he really felt like this Connection to music from the past which is what a big part of this album is about is is connecting it To kind of black music and soul music and then fusing it with this kind of groovy r&b this album Came out of four years of sessions and basically they said that from what i've seen with Interviews they said the first couple years were easy and then the last year they were really Stressed because they're like we got to put out something and we're going to find out as we go Through the songs i'm going to tell you the singles he released off this album did not do well Initially and they actually pushed back the release date of this album Because they were really worried that it was going to be a bomb but what's interesting about

[52:00]This album is you listen is that there's very little verse chorus like even me listening to This at work there's never a part where i was like oh here's the chorus that i remember here's The hook that i'm going to sing along with it was just kind of a lot of these funky grooves And then every once in a while he'd repeat some phrases and i was like well i guess that's the Chorus and then like aaron said earlier a huge part of this album was quest love on the drums And aaron can you explain what you mean when you were talking about him dragging the beat on This album yeah quest love talks about this a lot about how he had and i've been watching Interviews with him recently and reading things he said about it recently where So the roots were a live hip-hop band which was not cool in the mid late 90s so quest love had To you know quest love group in philadelphia exposed a lot of music jazz okay i'm not Talking about quest love because i could do that all night but he talks about how again The point of this podcast he had trained himself to do that all night and he was like i'm not going to To play like a drum machine where he was on the beat all the time and he took it as a

[53:00]Compliment when someone would come up to him and say you sound like a drum machine never Never you know you're like a robot thank you for the compliment yes he started playing with D'angelo and d'angelo was like no no like let it lay behind the beat and i can't do the Things that he would do in his interviews where he gives examples but yeah basically it was just Like consistently playing somewhere behind the beat and it was about the Interplay between the drums and the bass and quest love talks a lot d'angelo not as much Talks a lot about how this was influenced by j dilla who was a producer out of detroit Dilla worked with tribe called quest most famously was the only producer for slum village on their First album and dilla is not credited on this album in any way but i know he was around the Studio at the time because he was working with common and erica badu and all those other folks Who were around the electric lady At the time and quest love talks about how a lot of what they were going for was dilla's he calls

[54:00]It drunken drumming and then the one other thing i would say about it is that d'angelo Talks about how he was influenced by hip-hop and early hip-hop where samples didn't always line up With the beat or the bass and so he was emulating that sound where it just wasn't perfect but the Thing about that is it wasn't perfect but it was Perfectly imperfect and it can't be recreated because no one else has ever done this since Note to self don't ask aaron about that drumming dig at holy shit sorry it's awesome it was No it's awesome man it's brilliant i somehow have to make fun of you with also complimenting You no i just i'm just gonna make fun of you so immersed in this stuff for many years and this Album is 21 years old buy it a drink and i've been listening to it for 20 21 years now And i i still have it in my head and i still have it in my head and i still have it in my head Haven't fully grasped it so when d'angelo goes to the beach in mexico he goes i'm going to the

[55:00]Playa that's the first yes playa i read that this song was supposed to be for the Movie space jam right and so there's a lot of basketball themes in this song but if You listen the basketball themes are kind of off like no wonder they didn't put it in space jam Like they don't the lyrics don't make a lot of basketball sense like i'm cutting behind the Blocker it's like i don't know if d'angelo's ever played basketball because his lyrics don't Really make basketball sense i don't think he has because i also watched interviews with him Recently where i don't think he's more than 5'8 and he grew up only playing music in the church He was this was his thing was playing music i don't think he ever played basketball so it does Sound like fish out of water kind of stuff when he's trying to sing about basketball one of the Coolest things i saw about this opening song is that the guitar player was mike campbell who is The guitar player for tom petty in the house and the guitar player was mike campbell who is the Heartbreakers and so the guitar player in this was that guy and he's also played on you would

[56:00]Know him you would probably know his face from being you know the tom petty guitar player but He's also played with johnny cash on the american records he played on rusty cage and hurt he also Played with the wallflowers on sixth avenue heartache you guys remember that song oh god That's that was wallflowers were like a huge band for me russ i gotta say i'm you must have A great list if that wasn't your list that you came up with that was a great list i'm gonna say The opening track you don't do a list on the opening i'm learning i'm learning all these I've done a list love it but russell if i had tom petty's guitar if i had tom petty's guitar player The only thing i would do the whole time is be like play the intro to running down a dream and He'd be like he's like should we play this song play a player and i'm like no play running down A dream do it again that rocks my face off do it again all right it's moving on devil's pie here I think it was the first single off the album i mean listen to this groove god this album is so

[57:00]Thick and like chunky and funky and sexy but when they released this single it didn't do very well Because it wasn't real hip-hop like we were listening to at the time in kind of the late 90s early 2000s where it wasn't about you know a lot of excess and and well it's not a radio Play we've talked about it often but you know the kind of this whole album it's not made for radio You hear this song and what drew me to it you know what drew it to it it was the fact that it's Not a radio song you're so used to hearing all these songs that you know i don't know it just It hooked me right away i think for to play a song on the radio right you need a couple things you Need a song that's under six minutes no you need a singer who you could understand what The hell they're saying no you know i mean it just doesn't it doesn't happen on the Song but i mean listen to the end of this song listen how funky this is This is six minutes it's just so like i i did not know what this album was and when i put these

[58:00]Headphones on at work and i started listening to it i was like oh my god like this is i think this This song has the holy trinity of sounds including badass drums horns and scratching of records i Want more of those three things i love russell so you're oh you're sending me if i gotta talk About this because this is the one track where he brought in a hip-hop producer so he's got On this beat premiere of gangstar and He talks about how premiere and marley marl were his favorite producers so you can hear how This one's a little bit more straightforward in terms of just hitting the drums on the one and Going for it and then if we're going to talk about horns we got to talk about Roy hargrove who was the horn player for this album which we'll probably get into later but You're 100 right everything you guys are saying about this one it's it's a great track So now we have left and right now on this one d'angelo is a multi-instrumentalist he played All the instruments on this song was originally supposed to go have q-tip

[59:00]Rapping over the top of it but at the time method and red men were the hot method and red man were The hot ones so they were doing this i gotta say this was my least favorite song of the whole album I i know that rap lyrics being disrespectful to women is nothing new but this was just such a Derivation from the rest of the album it was like i would listen to this and be like i don't Really like what they're saying am i too sensitive i can't disagree with you i i have this As you guys know i own this on vinyl and these first three tracks comprise side one and i'm not A side one guy i feel like the record doesn't really start until it gets to the line and also I feel like the album actually loses something on vinyl because the transition from left and right Into the line is one of my favorite transitions and you only hear it on cd or streaming so now That we're out we're in we're in the we've done with side one who's listening to this album let's Get back to my segment that i'm bringing back for this album you know i was thinking i was actually Thinking about this rob and i thought this bit was dead so i didn't have a very well thought out

[1:00:00]No bit left on top of my head you know it's it's somebody who loved jazz who loved kind of old School r&b who loved you know maybe some 80s kind of soul music and they were they just They haven't seen it and all of a sudden in the late 90s erica badu and D'angelo and maxwell and lauren hill are bringing this stuff back and this is like their Their i don't know their golden chalice of records that they're going to put on so You know they're they're just thanking the good lord above that somebody finally brought all this Back together in modern times now this is 20 years ago but at the time and this just kind of brings It all back to to what happened you know from 60s 70s 80s and kind of brought it together So i mean you can throw prince in there you know they're they're big prince fans in the 80s And that there's just like you said there was this huge gap of like radio r&b and clubbing r&b

[1:01:00]And the rap game that came in and this just was kind of brought it all back to much more of a Soulful song so that's who's listening all right so now we have the line this is the one song i Could understand where he's threatening me in a sexy ass way He's gonna i'm gonna lay it on the line i'm gonna beat your ass i'm like yeah i kind of want you to Actually i think the other people that are listening to this are people that are watching Like old school 70s pornographic movies like the wah-wah the funk this is like this like If there's an album we've listened to that's that so far it sounds like it could be the Wow that it's this album right yeah yes and it is what i'm talking about well it's amazing you Talk about 70s videos because they The people who made this album talk a lot so this album was recorded a lot between what 97 and 99 96 99 yes and they talk about how they would sit and watch soul train videos when they weren't

[1:02:00]Recording like that's what they would use as inspiration which to us seems like oh yeah you Just watch a bunch of videos but in 1999 to try to watch a soul train video meant that someone had That shit on vhs or dvd and it was quest love of course the second love of my life third love of My life who was like going to japan and bringing back treasure troves of soul train videos For them to watch live performances of all of these people so you're not that far off russell That they were you know watching 70s soul if it's anything like vhs tape from the 70s that i had in My house you had to find a spot in your basement to hide it where nobody would ever find it oh my God you got to definitely stay away from the dryer that's hanging from the ceiling and whizzing around Down there too i don't want to get hit in the head by that it caused a concussion what's that noise i Hear downstairs that's a concussion i don't want to get hit in the head by that it caused a concussion Just ignore it all right here we have send it on Whoops forgot to put a time stamp on this one i mean it's great from the start it doesn't matter

[1:03:00]Listeners gotta listen for five and a half minutes okay everyone enjoy the beginning of the song is Fantastic this is awesome yep this is ray hargrove on the trumpet rest in peace i know you hate when I do that but erin what do you think of d'angelo as a singer so he's kind of busting out the What would you rank his singing abilities at i would rank d'angelo 10 out of 10 on musicality You know the weird thing about d'angelo and this album i do want to mention russell elevato Who was the engineer on the album who i think was pretty instrumental in the overall sound They tend to bury his voice in the mix and i think that's part of him he's gonna ask that You know going for the mystique but i i think he does have a great voice And he does things that not anyone can do he's clearly influenced by prince And i think that's part of him he's going to ask that you know going for the mystique You know he doesn't have a voice like otis redding or sam cook that's gonna like Bring you right out of your seat with power but i think it's sensitive and i think it's flexible

[1:04:00]But yeah i think they do some things to kind of obscure his voice that are interesting and It's interesting that he's willing to allow that to happen i'm gonna edit this out erin but in Future episodes i wish you would do a little bit of research on these albums so you would Know a little bit about what's going on it's kind of embarrassing this album makes me want To kiss my zoom camera should we all kiss our zoom camera At the same time okay never mind Sorry about the onion breath guys i had a date at white castle earlier i apologize for that I know what fogged up the whole the zoom camera i apologize that was my bad okay we'll talk about This after the podcast because of the zoom camera chicken grease oh i love this song I can't imagine how erin loves this chicken this is like right up erin's alley This is my favorite combination of movies chicken run and grease i'm sorry edit it out so here's the Thing chicken run and grease Is that i remember watching that one shout out mel gibson so here's no no no that is getting Edited out we are not shouting out mel gibson on this podcast are you fucking serious you just

[1:05:00]Shout out i want you to go to the hot tub and follow me what's going on with the tapes is this Like the whole cogan tapes where he called his wife on the voicemail and he's like what and she Goes i don't like you Because she knew she was recording it so she just baited but she's like you are a piece of Shit and you'd be like what did you just say i want you to come out to the hot tub You know what i'm gonna put in a clip of the mel gibson tape below this saying below me it's so good Erin you're not shouting out mel gibson on this podcast i know you didn't mean it like that but That's sick so chicken grease i'm gonna start the song again i can't handle this i'm not gonna think About mel gibson every time i think about this song chicken grease was a term prince used when You're playing a sick a chord with like a Seventh note in it and 16th notes so like a fast that's what he called the chicken grease which is Why they called it this but this was originally supposed to be a song for common and d'angelo

[1:06:00]Traded him this song for a different song like just straight up traded a song which is brilliant When i heard this song i couldn't stop thinking of erin and his bucket of chicken and then i Started thinking of you know how erin and i do chicken differently and you know who else sings About chicken differently it's our guy back you guys got to check out this song back also singing About chicken but beck does a rust style he likes deep fried chicken and deep fried love check out Deep fried love by beck oh yeah Sounds like velvet underground it does a little Deep fried love come on give me the grease We're supposed to keep it clean the thing was that russ just accidentally found this song just Typing in Back grease sock answer result done so when it comes to doing deep fried chicken socks who does

[1:07:00]It better beck did it better all right we are getting in now too this is one more gin i think So yeah so one more gin i've been wondering about how long it's been with me and my gin and tonics And i hoped i'd get a chance to see it once again and i'd love to see it again And i hope to kiss your lips baby once again i'm holding you tonight i'm enjoying another Jib and tonic i'm having one more jib it took me about three-fourths of the way to realize you Weren't just talking to me and i was like all right this kissing the zoom camera thing is gonna Work out for me this is great god listen to this though i mean this reminds me of when i worked at A train yard and there's a train that was so big we couldn't push it and we needed one more Engine you worked at a train yard well no i needed one more engine russ it's the yeah i was a rob soft Baby hands he's never done a bit of manual labor I was in charge of shaking the caboose I mean listen to this breakdown at the end of this song like

[1:08:00]It's like it totally switches gear hit the end it kind of little funky this is song This is track four songs in the key of life for sure i mean he's definitely referencing Absolutely oh i hear that very cool by the way stevie wonder recorded Another one at that same studio right so there's that's my facts that's my facts compared To aaron's facts i said stevie wonder recorded some album at that studio so rob doing the Research aaron you always talk about the funk so is this considered funk is it r&b is it soul what What is the what is this album considered so question i yeah no that's that's a great question I think that's what i said typically refer to it as neo soul i think he's taking elements of funk But that reminds me of a song called neo soul i think he's taking elements of funk but that reminds Me of the shoes in the matrix yes yes i couldn't hey aaron you're allowed to use a Pregnant pause you don't have to acknowledge rob's terrible jokes you can just pregnant

[1:09:00]I use that same joke on the lauren hill episode personally wouldn't classify this as a funk album And i don't i don't want to speak for the artists involved i don't think they would classify it as A funk album because funk has a an element of precision that i think this album i don't Want to say forsook or rejected because that sounds negative but they were going more toward The funkadelic than the parliament end of things where they were looking for some more i think it's A jazz album to be honest and a soul album but they were going for more improvisation a looser Feel funk to me has more grooves right i mean we're talking grooves rather than like synchronization Like synchronization god damn it rob no and rob you're totally right and funk has a groove but It's a more improvisational kind of groove and it's a more improvisational kind of groove and It's a precise groove rob's right you land on the first beat and then you do what you want after After the one but for i don't know and maybe if we you know if d'angelo listens to this podcast

[1:10:00]He might think differently but i i wouldn't call it funk i would call it soul but highly Influenced by jazz that's a longer answer than you needed to wrestle d'angelo if you're listening 802-277-2325 okay we'll let you leave a voicemail if it's any good we'll think about having you on Okay my favorite part is if he sends a text and instead of having his beautiful voice we get to Computer voice for d'angelo's backs next week excuse me guys this is definitely influenced by Finding the funk here's a picture of my feet all right here we have the roots this was influenced By a jimmy hendrix jam believe it or not they'd been jamming on a jimmy hendrix song for a while And this song came out of it is this the dragging drum i wrote down dragging drum for this Sounds like yeah i think it is yeah i definitely think it is the guitarist here Matt what's your favorite song on the album so far devil's pie devil's pie yeah it's in my top 100 This i mean this was a tough album for me to listen to at work because the nature of my

[1:11:00]Work is not to be listening to sexy songs and then immediately go like you know talk to kids About how to write down notes but it's it was a fun song to listen to because you could just zone In and zone out and by the end i just had the album on random and you would just hear these grooves and You could Like focus you didn't have to like listen to music it's so good we've talked about it before but i Tend not to listen to the words a lot of times you know on a lot of these albums i do the same Thing with this podcast yeah but i think to your point rob you can just have it on and even with He's singing but you're not really hearing what the words are but you hear like kind of the Instrument of his voice if that makes sense and you can just have it on in the background and it Makes and it makes complete sense and it it it It works i guess is the best way to say it so that's why i you know to your point i'm are you Focusing when you're always listening to these albums i'm not always focusing on the albums i'm Just kind of feeling the vibe if you will and this album has that definitely this album i

[1:12:00]Think almost more than any album we've listened to the vibe is constant throughout this album Which is what why i don't like that method man red man song is that it it's so different but The vibe on this album is so strong of just juicy chunky sexy grooves which was also My nickname in high school so think about it it's perfect for every occasion it lends itself To putting on in the background it lends itself to deep study of what they were doing it lends itself To hanging out with someone special to you it's it's you know it has all kinds of purposes This one reminds me when i wanted to buy l marijuana spanish joint Spanish for the marijuana I love i can't i didn't want to steal russell's bit but now russell's already done his bit i will Say i opened some spanish wine tonight because i had to have a spanish joint so nice i wanted to Be just like russell i played the beginning of the song listen to how this builds no wonder that

[1:13:00]Houston guy called you out for being high if this isn't jazz i don't know what it is i think my Favorite part of this song is the conga drums we've talked about conga drums maybe once or Twice before you guys hear those yep what is a conga drum is that the tall boy actually rob I have a description of the congas for you guys tonight because we're doing a list on the greatest Songs ever that feature the conga drums this is gonna be good I should do this sound clip and make the countdown from like 30 30 29 28 27 26 30 and make a pregnant Pause between each number so funny can you imagine how many of our listeners would have Pregnant pause events while they're listening to this d'angelo album right now and i know there's Some listeners who are ignoring the pregnant pauses because they're listening to it at 1.5 Or it's the sick freaks who are doing it at 2x speeds you fuckers listen to this at real time

[1:14:00]You losers or it could be the people who accidentally didn't pinch off the tip of that That device that they were using too right provolact i like that you call a condom a device I think that's very good all right so congas they're also known as a tumbadora it's a Tall narrow single-headed drum from cuba and it's it's often known for being used in latin music Jazz salsa merengue and latin rock and so i was kind of wondering first what's the difference Between a conga and a bongo do you guys know the difference i don't i hope you're gonna tell us i Don't know i think a conga is a long tall one right and the bongo are two because my grandmother used To have a couple of bongo drums which we would play with all the time until mysteriously they Grandmother's basement somehow after about the 10th time we went over there Rob you were spot on the bongo is is a higher pitch thinner and it's shorter than the Conga the congers the congas bigger it has a different sound to it you're right on what's

[1:15:00]The spanish name for the conga again the tumbadora oh that makes me want a whiskey drink and a cider Drink that's about as close as you can get we'll give you Let's just play that instead of my list i would totally be happy No i'm excited for this list i know what's on here it rocks my face all right so the first song I think we have to call this out this is probably where they might do like a conga line at a wedding Where they're not playing where they're not playing rob's what do we normally hear At weddings thriller yeah we normally they're not playing thriller they might be doing this This is miami sound machine gloria stefan this is the song conga you hear that conga in the Background Oh yeah it's that kind of constant it's gonna be hard to do You could do worse and spend like a whole day listening to the miami sound machine right like

[1:16:00]If you put this on all day you'd be happy All their songs are conga if you google like famous conga songs it's miami sound machine Across the board yes oh it's so good all right number two on the list we've covered this one It's the greatest album of all time and it's unimpeachable at this point this is marvin gaye Inner city blues we've talked about this before you guys remember this one yep a little more laid Back yeah and i'll tell you what marvin gaye huge influence on this album and you can hear it i mean He's probably the number one influence on this album right listen to it you can hear it so similar He also in fact rob that's a perfect segue when d'angelo was looking for a bass player he was Looking for his own james jamerson He was looking for a bass player to be like this i've been looking for like three or four shots of Jameson before i take my date to white cast i was gonna say for valentine's day we all just want our Own james jamerson i think you know but russell are you gonna mention the apes that come out and

[1:17:00]Kill all the people oh that's right we're not talking about congo it was a michael Creighton book and movie okay movie well there goes my number three song i was gonna do a whole Rip off on congo okay but instead i'll move on to one of the greatest Bands ever how about rolling stones sympathy for the devil this is the opening you guys will all Know this part let me introduce myself dang this is an opening i can't wait till we get back to Stones i i played this song once in my car and i was so proud of my kids because i was playing this And i just hear them in the background when they were like two or three they're going And i was like hell yeah Listen God dang this list Rocks russell yeah russell crushing it again oh it's about to get better would it be stressful To play the conga do you think in a drum because it sounds like they're not playing on a rhythm It sounds like they're kind of like there's a lot of syncopation going on well actually

[1:18:00]I was hoping to share with you guys there are four different strokes that come with the conga Can i share a few of those with you guys here the strokes yep different is that what the show Different strokes was about well this is way better rap i know we're not allowed to have Dirty jokes but if you guys keep your mind out of the gutter for a little bit the first one is an open Tone where it's played with four fingers near the rim of the head okay pregnant bosses the second one Is a closed or flesh tone or simply a muff like an open tone it's made by striking the Drum with four fingers but holding the fingers against the head to muffle the tone You're doing great yep the third strike is called a bass tone it's Played with the full palm rod that you play with the full palm In a slightly cupped position somewhat off center And the final one rob the final way to play the conga drum is called a slap tone

[1:19:00]It's the most difficult technique but it produces a loud and clear popping sound The muted or pressed slap tone is played with an open tone while the hand Rests against the drum head Is there one Is there one where you're crying afterwards That's the best joke i come up with rob you dumb shit Oh god that's so good Listen hey this is a musical podcast i'm talking about the way that This was direct off wikipedia rob i use your research style this is how you play the conga The good news is when you're working with i'm working with one-handed Strokes they're your only option otherwise you want to just grab an air Dang it i relapsed i was doing so well i gotta All right next up on the list let's see if you guys remember this one this is eric burton and

[1:20:00]War spill the wine you remember this one yes there used to be a wine shop called spill the Wine in minneapolis dig that girl Eric burton's erin who sings this song eric burton and war yeah let's keep It that way shut your mouth wow he walked right into that didn't he actually the singer on this Song is terrible if i remember correctly yeah i don't think he's into singing so aaron i do want You to sing the song yeah listen to those congas i would say he's doing that what what stroke Do you think he's doing on that one that sounded a lot like a slap that sounded difficult i i think He was definitely doing the muffled tone he was he was striking the drum sometimes you get too close to the End of the song before you want to so you have to muffle it down and what this is a music Podcast if you think about white castle keep it clean that beat just gets a little quick yeah you

[1:21:00]Gotta slow down that beat you gotta keep the tempo slower because you can't you can't end the song When you're looking at steven tyler doing a flip you gotta wait until they're at the strip club Aaron was talking about how he didn't like the slow tempo on carol king a few weeks ago he likes A faster tempo i'm never gonna live that one down i made a mistake i'm gonna have to make A three favorite albums in a row or like walking through a swamp i know i still love that rob Started out this whole zoom call by saying guys do you think we're a little too dirty Well he should have told me that before i looked at all the strokes for the bond The conga drum that was my fault i didn't get that instruction next week's list is going to Be all the strokes for the bongo drum i can't wait for that but we got to stay on this week's List here's the number one would make more sense because they're shorter there's two of them All right here's the number one here's the number one conga song ever and this is a rosy favorite This is curtis mayfield we are the people darker than blue check this out this is awesome I know we've all got problems that's why i'm here to say i do love curtis mayfield

[1:22:00]I mean listen to those I mean there are no jokes to make here it's just beautiful music this is badass isn't It yes I was going to play a santana song but i remember at some point someone made a rob thomas santana Joke and i thought i would get made fun of so i didn't put him on i looked it up and i think they Used bongos on those not congas that's why i didn't put it on the list so they're sure they're Shorter drums they use different strokes oh i love the curtis mayfield shout also because i was so Smooth unsung influence on this album so russell you once again just incredible kudos on your list Making nailed it boom nice too bad it's gonna be edited out because it's so dirty but All right let's get into feel like making love oh What is this song about aaron well it's about when two people really man i was gonna go

[1:23:00]Straight into the birds and bees and now you have to like really try i can't wait for aaron to give His birds of the bees speech to his son aaron's just gonna put on this album and let his Son listen to it say do you understand that's all you need and he'll be fine deal russell that's so Smart i'm gonna invite you to come out for that you just like uncle russ is gonna read you about The different conga strokes i learned today this song so originally recorded by roberta flack who's One of our podcast faves was written by eugene mcdaniel and eugene mcdaniel had a really Influential psychedelic funk soul album called headless horseman of the apocalypse that was People talk about it as the aloe Black said this in an interview that it was the what's going on but he wasn't asking what's going On he was telling you what's going on and the nixon administration asked his record label to Scrap it so eugene mcdaniel ended up being pretty you know kind of tossed on the

[1:24:00]The funeral pyre of history but he's a great funk soul Pioneer and he wrote this song and then roberta flack recorded it and then D'angelo did his own thing with it it's great tune can you imagine being d'angelo and saying Making love and then you can actually like do something about it that is such a foreign concept I don't think i've ever said like oh i feel like making love and then like gone and done it i'm Always like okay well i'm gonna go to bed a little early tonight we'll just see what happens it's Like i'm i'm tired i'm going to sleep i'm like yeah me too i'm very tired i've always been way More successful when i say i feel like eating white castle and then i just pound that crave case I'm batting a thousand hall of fame It's me Me at night yeah i'm tired too what are you doing nothing why does it smell like onions Hey why are you walking around with your eyes closed in the bedroom eating white castles That's it podcast over perfect callback guys this is the perfect episode i'm gonna call it right now

[1:25:00]Best episode ever here we go oh that means it's gonna be the worst Always listen this song sums it up great day and morning great groove no idea what he's saying he Could be talking about like q and a and stuff like that but he's not gonna be talking about it I would have no idea what he's talking about that would be surprising all right this is the big boy How does it feel it's called untitled this was the song that put this album absolutely on the map The song or the video and it was 100 the video if you look up in fact i'll put in the show notes i'll Put a link to this video okay this will probably get us kicked off apple podcast but this was a Beforehand because this was a video where literally it just is zooming to different Parts of d'angelo's naked torso all the way down to like the hip bones those v-shaped muscles Which oh i got those yeah i have those two down there not even a big deal it's more like a

[1:26:00]U but it works this hit number 25 on the charts because of the video they played this video so Many times before this the album was thought to be a bomb and this came out and it was a juggernaut Of a video it played over and over and over i do think it's a great song i tried your Your experiment rob you know we put the kids read books put them to bed and i said oh Rob's got this video he wants you to watch sarah oh no and put the put it on like yeah that's kind Of cool and then just put the phone down and went so it didn't work it didn't work for me I think that did work though because if she would have been like oh my god this is the Hottest thing i've seen in my life you'd be sitting there like wait a minute what Rob you sent us this video and if you guys scroll down a little bit on youtube If you guys scroll down a little bit just in case and looked at the youtube comment i love this quote About this it said halfway through this song and i'm already pregnant i thought it was just an

[1:27:00]Amazing comment for whoever the youtuber is that put that out there i i applaud you for skipping The pregnant pause and just going right for it it was fantastic the weird thing is is that First commenter on this video is alicia silverstone it doesn't make any sense So You're going to be like oh my god you're going to be like oh my god you're going to be like oh my god And the thing about this right is that this is the song that absolutely buried D'angelo the tour for this album was a disaster because he would go out he'd be singing in 30 Seconds later they don't care about you know the people coming that would see this video and then Go to his concert they didn't care about prince they didn't care about the funk they didn't care About any of this stuff they would literally be yelling to him take off your clothes right now That's what i want to see he this video was so sexy that it pretty much ruined his life For like three years can you imagine something so sexy that's like all people can think of when they Think of you no no no rob i can't imagine i can't imagine it but i think thank you for bringing it Up but no i can't but i think it's real for him i think it's real i think it has to do with where he

[1:28:00]How he grew up he was a true church musician that's how he was raised that's how he was steeped And then when he left church music he was devoted to learning new music and learning the funk and Learning soul and he says it on black messiah 15 years later if you've asked him where i've been i Hope inside my abdomen that you're referring to and we as brilliant we as dudes who haven't looked Like him can't imagine how that feels but he it really messed him up to be a sex symbol he didn't He didn't like it and you know i mean props to him for feeling that his music was the most Important because he had something to say yeah whatever that's like rich people say go it's hard Like give me a break yeah how many times has he had to take anyone to white castle and act Like it was a great date give me a break i have no pity for him the idea of somebody's face looking Happy when i take my shirt off it's such a foreign concept to me it boggles my mind It doesn't stop you from riding shirtless though

[1:29:00]Just imagine right now on the job you have right now right that you go in and they say i'm sorry But you're too sexy you can't do this anymore you'd be like wait what this is the best day of Your life i'm so happy this is awesome can't imagine now we have the last song on the album Africa kind of a letdown i would say i read that there are some reverse guitars on Here so i think this is another thing elevada was doing where he was what is the reverse guitar i Think it's that he was when you hold it upside down okay and then okay there's apparently a Drum sample i was Okay i'm gonna edit in one of your laughs that was bullshit okay i mean i was thinking he's Probably playing them backwards it's like a beatles type thing i mean i do think the beatles Are an influence on this album too which i haven't even mentioned and i'm remiss in mentioning this Late but absolutely this song i think encapsulates the simplicity and complexity

[1:30:00]Kind of balance that he was striking all through There was a song and i want to say it's great day good morning where they actually ended it Because they ran out of tape And the engineer was like hey this is just like you know she's so heavy so we're gonna keep it in There just like that tape for this album yeah i mean i think that's part of it too the noise All right so that is it for voodoo and i gotta tell you aaron i i i can't give a real rating To this obviously because i've painted myself in this corner of only giving joke ratings This was one of these albums where this list has really been enlightening for me i first listened To this album i was like i don't get it by the third listen i was like this is so fun to listen To it was just unbelievable so i guess thank you for being a fan of this album and i'll Get out of here aaron what are you trying to make that bullshit into my podcast for all right here We go all the positivity in this town sucks get mad at aaron for thinking about something Oh my god it's late so late this episode went so long it was worth it Double album double episode it's true all right so let's get into our rating system

[1:31:00]Russ let's start with you what do you think and the rating system before i forget is is This album this is at 28 is this album rolling well tone means it's perfect at 28 just where It should be did this album get rolling boned okay that means it should be higher than 28 it Should not be so low on the list or is this a rolling groan this album is too high on the list Which means that it should be it's too low of a number it should be a higher number therefore Later on the list but sooner if you're going reverse numerically which is what rolling stone Did going reversed I i had never heard of d'angelo before we started this quest i'd never heard of him until When the list got reset and matt noted that d'angelo jumped from like 400 up to 30 I'd never heard these songs maybe i've heard these songs but i'd never recognized them And the only thing i knew is aaron was super excited about this and this really shocked me

[1:32:00]I really like this way more than i thought it i would to me it's a little bit one note it's kind Of like the same slow drum it's the same kind of beat the whole time so it's a little bit one note But it's also the first album that i believe referenced the word mojo so i gotta give it Credit that we're referencing the word mojo so i'm gonna give it a rolling well toned i you know It is only one note but it is a slap note and so i think that's that's a good one man i think it Was i think it was a four-fingered cuff slap i just get it right you don't want to let yourself Down there's better ways to do that i am not ever going to say the term a four-fingered muff slap Thank you matt what do you think i You know i'm not going to pretend to be as well versed as rosie in this album but i i definitely Listened to a lot of d'angelo late high school early college and you know this was just a perfect Time to kind of trying to figure out like what jazz was you know and try to figure out like why

[1:33:00]Some of the stuff from the 80s was so popular the prince you know i never really got prince But now listening to this album And kind of going through the jazz phase i just went through and all that you know this is just a Great kind of newer age jazz tone i think and i'm kind of struggling to get to the exactly how I feel about it but i think it's just it's not radio it's easy listening you have like russell Said you've got horns you got rhythm you've got vocals and it all comes together to a These songs are bangers personally you know i i i can understand why you think there's it's kind of A one note thing but i i just absolutely love going through this album and so i think it got Rolling boned meaning it's too low on the list rob right i once again once i've done my initial Bit i cannot remember i mean it depends what you mean low on the list i'll show you a diagram later

[1:34:00]I got a diagram i think matt you might have meant it got bass tone which means it got played With the full palm the full palm matt yeah man it's like it's like that book that You got the list is really relative right all relative so i know i think you got Rolling boned and you know it's hard for me to say which ones we should jump ahead of here but I just think this is a great album and it came out at a great time and Yeah i thoroughly enjoyed it all right so aaron what did you think of this i think the song Sucks oh aaron why would you say that about d'angelo two albums Even on the old list he was a top 500 artist and you're just gonna rag on him damn Would you say this is a big album that's what i'm gonna start calling my penis Here's what i have to say about this album i've already said

[1:35:00]More than anyone cares to hear about my thoughts on this album In the context of the list i feel that this is our first sort of throwback album on the list right And yes i could be wrong the album is derivative in a good way in a great way And it took older ideas and made them his own and so for me as i've said it's one of my top Five favorite albums i listened to it so many times this week i'm not going to stop listening To this album when we're done so i will love this album forever i'm going to surprise you And i'm going to say i feel like it's rolling well toned as far as a specific number it is To me better than many of the albums that we've heard that rank higher on the list above it but I think we might hear albums that come after it that this album borrowed from and so i'm going to

[1:36:00]Say it's rolling well tone as a number 29 but for me as you know personally it's one of my all-time Favorites the predecessors aren't getting their credit you're saying i'm saying yeah this album You know would is looking to the four mothers and fathers and so i those people should also get their Do as well get their flowers as they say you guys are close but the correct answer is this album Gets a rolling hip bone all i can think about are his hip bones when i think about this album He's too sexy i mean this video to make a song like this and then to actually look sexy How often does that happen that almost never happens it's crazy you know i think i'm one of Those of that i'd have to go on like a three i'd have to go on like a 300 day fast to ever claim All right so next up we have number nine number nine we have beatles a White album the album we were getting ready to do before the emergency list took over you know what

[1:37:00]Guys i like this album so much you know what great i'm gonna give it actually a d plus angelo again Oh that's not right you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time But you're just too lazy to look it up online If you want to hear from guys who chat and then they get off track I've got the perfect podcast for you jack beck did it better Oh wait you guys didn't do it you Got them we got them the only funk i brought to this podcast was that onion breath from that Last trip i made to white castle we got the funk ow i got the funk Sir you'll notice all of our crave cases that are under glass you need to ask us to Ah yes i will never return goodbye hey i'm sorry i hate to interrupt you while you're

[1:38:00]Doing the scanning but i need to get in their crave case out of that glass case over there Ha, ha, ha.