Erykah Badu: Baduizm (1997)

[00:00]in 2020 four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums as decided by rolling stone magazine this resulted a text chain that celebrated the music excoriated the order and led us to making this podcast we are far from experts we promise to do almost no research all opinions are our own unless you disagree please sit back and enjoy becca did it better from 1997 this is baduism from erica badu guys i know this is erica badu but what about the rest of the uh badu planeteers who uh the badu planeteers this is erica badu but what about

[00:33]earthica badu fireka badu and hartika bad do you like that one that was a good one listen we don't have time for this let's turn on k-rob see what's going on what that's so terrible welcome to k-rob k-r-o-b i'd like to dedicate this to all the creative righteous children i have some food in my bag for you and i'm zooming with all these guys and i'm showing them canned oysters they said

[01:14]oh no erin you fucked me tonight to my keyboard keys now my laptop is so smelly so now my computer smells oyster every time i

[01:35]open it it smells fishy now people at work they stare at me when my keyboard it smells like sardines erin really laughed at me because he wanted my computer to smell oyster just wants to bring me down yeah when you want to hear about the greatest song was hard as hell to do like uh some of them most people like were like oh rob what's that smell but some people were just

[02:12]like it's just no i just actually that's one benefit of teaching middle school is nobody was like what's that weird smell because yes the other week was our first warm day in new york and the kids it smelled so bad in my room after they left you could taste it you know just you're it's like it just tasted like the air tasted green do you know what i'm talking about if you

[02:32]teach middle schoolers you definitely know what it means oh my mouth is open it smells it smells canned oyster canned oyster and uh listen this is a beck did it better we are talking about baduism by erica badu we are all the way up to what album is this did i even say 89 89 guys i i cannot even believe it probably the worst number you could have as a wide receiver right 89 89 steve smith 89 bottom line rules and regulations of the game erin just proved you either right or wrong i'm not really sure

[03:03]actually uh listen that proves the rule guys i swear to god i was in a cult for four months that was all about baduism but they kept saying that i needed to graduate to the next level if i wanted to be part of the fuck fest and every time i graduated they said no it's the next level it's the next level like oh no you need a green scarf you need a pink scarf and i was like i can hear the fuck fest going on right next door and you got i'm starting to think maybe it's just me how many color scarves do you got now oh i i've got um i've got it's it's honestly it's like

[03:33]joseph and the amazing technicolor cult scarf dream scarf uh listen i've got matt in minneapolis matt how are you doing tonight just great rob thanks for having me as always i've got russell who is up north at some mystery cabin tonight russell how are you doing tonight we're swapping cabins tonight oh what a day what a day what a day this goes out to magic mike for checking all our facts the man that knows something knows that he knows nothing at all dumb shit hey i like magic mike yeah he's good good people he's our only true fan i've got aaron

[04:06]out in california who kept saying before the podcast that richard jewel was actually guilty what's even the point of that i don't even what's up why are you doing that aaron what's up i don't even know well i'm just excited to talk about this album diggy diggy he's a hero rosie he's an actual hero just because he had so much porn it's just just to catch you up uh richard jewel was a security guard who was i know who he was accused of the atlanta bombings yes and then

[04:32]everybody was like hey this guy actually did it and then because he was a big fat guy everybody was like yep it does look like he's guilty and then when they went into his house he had like so much pornography like way more pornography than you should have and so everybody's like well he's definitely guilty and it turns out he wasn't wait how much is more than you should have how much is more than you should have what's the what's the where is the line are we trying to do this to figure out where the line is yeah like how many kilobytes or how many cinnabites or whatever

[05:00]terabytes i think back in the old days i think three i think three vhs's that was enough right anything over three vhs's you're like okay this is weird how many did he have i don't know i i don't want to get into richard jewel's stuff i brought it up as a joke guys i don't know anything about richard jewel i'm still confused why are you talking about that today why like what does that have to do with what does that have to do with this album or i look at this i have a list of jokes about aaron

[05:30]that i'm just scrolling through okay i just pick one today up isn't richard jewel in this pornography like the biggest rap group in the world richard jewel isn't that in aaron richard jewel yeah richard jewel richard jewel come the jewels uh what okay let's get into our voicemail we have a voicemail i said what and then i knew what the answer was someone to call it and we asked them to leave a message on a voice by the way we were running low on voicemails you dumb shit so start calling in

[06:01]give us some material i don't know last time we asked for voicemails we yeah for our show thanks karen we appreciate when you call idiots not realize we only do always good to get a call from barry don't you think that's what we think it's a very long time yes you've done like 85 episodes now how about i started like a patreon account so i just

[06:37]pitch in 20 bucks or so you can skip forward uh i don't know 71 episodes or whatever i don't know what it is it's got to be the guy who has the replacements right yeah you got it russell i just get to the replacements let it be that's all i ask i i don't care about anything else and i'm one of the only people maybe that listen to the music

[07:00]part of it i skip over the part where you give one of my best friends shit and they go right to the music part you're listening to this please everybody has coveted my house man i had so in my head sums up my listeners to me it sums up our listeners perfect like if our podcast is your last link to stay insane this listener sent me a text and said i cannot wait for

[07:32]august 9th 2023 and i was like what the hell are you talking about he had done the math to figure out that the first replacements album would potentially be released our our first episode on a replacements album could be released on august 9th 2023 this man we should skip it our listeners are so dumb they don't even deserve the one album they want we should just talk about it skip it and act like nothing happened this man you're you're that far how was that album matt

[08:00]do you remember it or should we give him a preview what did you think of it i i don't remember it i remember i mean the replacements are a nice little 80s band right that kind of didn't really quite find their spot you know where they were they rock and roll were they like the uh i'm trying to think who who's that band that did like the friends theme song the rembrandts i'm kidding i'm just trying i'm just trying to see what you are right now i'm just no i'm editing that out

[08:30]i'm editing that out where you say you're just kidding so it's just going to be us say the yeah i agree i agree man i think they're like they're they're they're like just above the rembrandts but like you know just below yeah like there's no jay giles band big bad voodoo daddy or something like that i don't know can you imagine you're the lead singer of big bad voodoo daddy and you're just at home and you're looking at this giant suit this giant purple suit suit riot riot throw back a bottle of beer it's taking up so much room in your closet

[09:02]because it's so big and you're like damn well i'm never gonna wear this again but then you're like well maybe let's see nobody in the 50s i'll tell you how i was gonna i brought this up i pulled big bad voodoo daddy because i was on an airplane again right and i could see the guy across the aisle in one row up and he's like holding his phone you know kind of so everybody can see kind of a thing and he's he's trying to find music and what he says is he's like big bad voodoo daddy and i'm like i have to somehow bring up big bad voodoo daddy because

[09:37]somebody in the world actually out of all the music you can pick yeah hit play on big bad voodoo daddy on an airplane i was at i was at a band concert once at school and they were playing some like uh sky like squirrel nut zippers song or something and i turned to a kid next to me and i go i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know this was a huge hit when i was in high school and he looked at me like i had three heads he

[10:00]looked at me like i was the most insane person ever he's like this is what you listen to in high school how fucking old are you and i was like well no there's this it's from the 1900s there's this dance revival yeah that was a weird moment that was a weird moment right like that didn't last very long redemption it was one of those things where you're like fuck i need to learn how to swing dance like if i want to go out anywhere right now i have to go into the trap and took swing swing swing dance lessons you're fucked i didn't take them i don't

[10:30]ever have to swing dance it was a fad it moved on did you guys ever go on dates like where your date wanted to swing dance have your wives ever wanted to go dancing for a date night or no well not swing dancing i mean you know we go hit up some sort of yeah yeah you know you put on like party in the usa and you know some of whatever yeah there you go no i mean it's still fun right i mean like back in the day what was it what was that place uh fuck i should know what this is in uptown what

[11:00]was it called rosie you had to have been there a couple times bar abilene it was bar abilene the only place that had a dance floor yeah the only place in uptown that had a dance floor right nice but but i was i wasn't talking like all i want to do is zoom a zoom zoom zoom dance i was talking like like where there's training for it like uh have you ever done swing dancing or anything where you have to take classes to learn how to do it we took classes once i mean we took classes once with you know kind of a couple and before you got kids and all you know that's great yeah something to do on a tuesday then go out get a beer afterwards stuff

[11:33]so yeah we've done that we we ended up at a swing dance place in paris and guess what i could just fake it i'm a fucking good dancer it might surprise you guys i am a great dancer i have always been a great dancer i have an impeccable sense i have an impeccable sense of rhythm i do you i'm serious ask jenny text jenny right now ask is rob a good dancer and she'll say yes my family is we're all great dancers we're big guys we're light on on our feet we were we

[12:00]were just in vegas all of those 40 to 50 year old women were flocking to you we we witnessed it it was amazing you were a magnet out there oh yeah it was crazy russell can dance too so russell have you have you done dance lessons with a friend you know you know what i i would i wouldn't mind doing i think it would be fun but aaron i think will sympathize with me i'm a sweaty guy yeah and so like for me to go out and start doing like swing dancing and that's like i would be a sweaty mess four minutes and and i can't there's no recovering for me so i feel like i'd have to avoid it at all

[12:30]costs let me ask you russell have you considered this yeah putting deodorant on your face like just deodorant and you just put it all over your face it's gotta work right like if it's a clear deodorant you're not gonna sweat it sounds terrible did i just know what shut up did i just change the world like that's the greatest idea i've ever had deodorant on the face maybe i could do swing dancing in the dark so nobody except for my date would know the lights the lights come on and russell's totally nude except for a pair of

[13:01]socks the only problem is as as rob knows events in the dark are also quiet events so that people would hear my day like people would hear my day like putting her hand on my back and it would be like this splash yeah like sweat and disgust and it would be terrible did i ever tell you about my plan in high school i had a crush on this girl and i got invited to be in the school play and this big dancing it was my fair lady and so i had to have a dance partner so i asked this friend of mine hey let's be partners do you want to be in the play with me because then guess what four days a

[13:35]week an hour a day we're dancing we're practicing she's wearing something where i can see her decolletage this is one of the greatest plans i have in my entire life this is one of the greatest friend friend zone plans you've ever had in your entire life listen we are still very good friends so in that sense it did totally work out yeah there was uh there was a lot of people that were it turns out that the more time people spend with me the lower chance i have of um actually

[14:00]having sexual intercourse with them that's a proven fact man i thought i thought rule number one when we we recorded this podcast matt and i had a disagreement on our first recording i thought rule number one was we're not allowed to use the word friend zone it's a little a little too close to home for some of us it's true no one on this podcast has had sex with you and i've not spent more time with anyone except for the guys on this podcast so aaron what happens in vegas you missed the last trip i'm just gonna leave it at that matt roland going how's it going with you uh good i was uh in dallas this week and i and i had a

[14:41]celebrity sighting guys well this this uh this celebrity i found him on instagram they've got 53 000 53 000 followers so i figure this is this is like a celebrity right a billion podcasts to get that

[15:00]far this is gonna be a big name who is that uh maverick or someone maverick the cat guys guys our podcast gets 150 episodes downloads a week and this maverick a cat has 53 000 followers yeah so maverick the cat maverick's a surfing cat but it's so i'm sitting there waiting for my uber i gotta go to this meeting right and so i'm sitting out on the outside this hotel i'm kind of sitting on the sidewalk on the curb not sitting i'm standing

[15:33]and all of a sudden in the bushes there's this rustling right oh wait look over russell perked up rustling the verb and uh it's and i look over and there's this cat right and it looks like it's got like this huge thing coming off of like its neck or something i'm like what in the world is that wait i want you to realize this is an audio medium when you say huge thing coming off their neck what do you mean puff ball a big puff ball okay waiter so i'm like

[16:03]so i'm like you know it was like it was obviously like somebody was dressing up this cat right it's like the frank beamer but again it's like in the middle of these bushes and i have no idea what's going on so i'm looking around i'm looking and i'm like staring at this thing and this lady goes oh it's on a leash so i'm like oh what oh that's okay yeah oh okay well i just you know i couldn't tell it just thought you know it's a cool looking it's like a bangle cat or something like that and so you know i'm like all right whatever so then this cat's going all right and i don't know the

[16:32]at this point what this cat is right or who it is or how famous this cat is i would assume it's like most cats i see where the amount of famous is actually zero okay when i look at most cats i don't think like i wonder how famous this cat is it's not garfield like i'm not really yeah i mean maybe if i saw tony the tiger on a leash i'd be like well wait a minute i know this guy maybe he's so i go i take my uber i go to my meeting come back and there's like this 1960s vw van right

[17:00]that's sitting and it's got a smashed in back end right but on the on the back of this van it's this big you know they put like an instagram so like at whatever and it's at mab this surf surfer cat mab or something like that i'll have to figure out which one exactly it is but like at surfer cat mab and i'm like the fuck is this thing you know kind of a thing so i look it up and sure enough it's this cat that i saw in the bushes and i look it's got 53,000 followers and so then the guys out there his his van somebody ran into the back of their van right

[17:33]so they're i don't know what they're doing the two or whatever but and so he's like hey yeah i'm like and the lady who's the parking lot attendant at this and you know she's like that cat's on netflix you know so we started talking about all this cat you know she's like and so this cat apparently mab the cat is on episode six of the show and she's like i don't know what to do with this cat cat people there is something in netflix called cat people okay okay when you're when you're when

[18:02]your bing searches end up at cat people you're like i gotta stop doing this i gotta take a little break because i am not turned on by very much anymore so i i took the 28 minutes to watch episode six of cat people and i i there's a different world out there oh yeah like my cat is 16 years old right this cat mab the surfing cat is two years old and they're having a zoom party where there is like hundreds of people that are on this two-year-old birthday party for mab the surfing cat maverick yeah and

[18:34]all this stuff and you know they're talking about how well you know it's a bangle cat and so it's its instincts are to be out in the water and so they're oh you know we just have to we have to hone in and we have to you know we're fostering this this cat's need to be climbing trees and all this well then like 13 seconds later the lady's freaking out because the cat's got a mouse and it's in its mouth right and it's like oh no no what get the mouse oh we can't i'm like what yeah you just talked about fostering like

[19:02]this cat's natural desire and like that's all cats do is grab mice and eat them right and so like what's what's and so i don't it's i've seen a lot of pictures though of in dinosaur times where saber-toothed tigers are actually catching a sweet wave uh out on the ocean it's one of the things they naturally love to do is to surf yeah and i'm glad that they're doing that to help them out the cat and definitely not just get a weird big instagram following that's going to be very sad when the cat dies so i i don't want to like be mean about this right like it's just as people

[19:34]are different people are different they've got their own thing they can do whatever they want they can you know they're selling harnesses so their cat can go out walking they take their cat everywhere with them you know like it's just so like the people are very nice right it's just a different world it just reminds you that there's different people in the world but but it's fucked that people would join a zoom birthday party for a cat although for a cat i gotta say they're like 15 in cat years so really that's like it's quinceanera you know that's no

[20:04]way because yeah go ahead i might i might rather go to the cat's birthday than go to the five-year-olds that aaron's been going to for the last three i said legit would probably rather go to the cat's birthday at least you show up like you throw some sort of toy at it and then you leave like you don't have to act like you care would you be willing to be on netflix for all the time you all to see singing happy birthday to a cat while it like supposedly is about to blow out some candles would you be okay i would rather do that than have anyone ever identify me as being one of

[20:34]the four co-hosts of the cake farting episode yes that's true i have to admit that too i always like cats talking about cats always reminds me of when i'm eating combos with people if you ever find yourself eating a bag of combos where do you find yourself eating combos with people yeah i've it actually happens more often than you would think whereas you have some combos people want to try i mean guys it's a fucking cracker that tastes like a pizza how often does that occur

[21:02]okay that was the thing people would be like oh i want the cheese combos what you can get cheese crackers anywhere they exist all over the place but a cracker that tastes like a pizza this is gonna say it say it like you mean it rob a combo is a cracker that tastes like a pizza oh i'm gonna get that clean that was very good i'll always say to somebody like doesn't this look like a cat's butthole like right before they take a bite you look at that combo and you're like that looks just like a cat's butthole it's wild to me that they would make a treat that looks so much like a cat's butthole

[21:34]it's crazy it's such a wild ride like yeah i like eating combos with people so i can tell them it looks like a cat's butthole like it's one of the few foods where you can say it looks like a butthole and everybody goes it really does they really will look at you and be like this is amazing you're right that's not even the first food that i've heard you compared to a butthole like what are you talking about like you said it looks like a butthole and everybody goes you said junior mints look like buttholes well i also and to be fair on the last episode i did say the dehydrated lemons you get in your drinks also look like else but also it turns out this

[22:02]might be a thing you you have added this to your list right for stand-up i mean because this is yeah oh i've got quite a few butthole jokes in my hand believe it or not i believe the junior mints is one of my lead-on jokes i think the junior mint was a melted junior mint that's the bottom of the box then you gotta dig down in there and get it so matt what you're saying is you're not going to start a cat's instagram oh i look i got my cats right here you're a cat owner matt yeah oh my gosh it was a moment of

[22:34]weakness this thing's it's a nice cat but i cannot wait to not have pets anymore in my life i'm not lying the fact just prop that door open bro just do it i can't do it the fact that this is a two-year-old i mean and they've they're literally dedicating their entire lives to a cat yeah and again support animals all this stuff people got other stuff going on in their life right whatever floats your boat at the same time they're on cat people

[23:03]on netflix so i don't know good for them russell did you ever date somebody who was crazy cat person like did you ever go to somebody's place or they would just talk about their cat or like you'd go there and they'd have like eight cats running around or maybe they made you shit in a litter box or whatever well that that wasn't technically a date but yes my neighbor left their door open for the cat to go out but it was a reverse cat yeah no i i don't remember dating any real cat lady i mean i'm sure i've

[23:35]dated a few but i'm not a cat person like if i hear you have one cat i can probably tolerate it but more than one i'm out i'm that's that's a deal breaker for me i don't i don't care about anything else like rob has told us what he would if you're hot enough he'll let you spit that you can spit in his mouth or whatever he was talking about last week but no i'm out but i do remember dating someone who was um uh a dog foster person so they would

[24:00]always fight they were fostering dogs and this was their passion and at first i was like oh this is really like inspiring it's cool like what a good person yeah and then i realized she like legit had like six seven dogs at her house at a time and i was like oh i'm out on that yeah i want no part of that it just stinks it just like i don't have a lot of people over like i got this awesome bar right but i just know it stinks down here because i'm flipping cat i can't stand it it's you know i'm not gonna put anybody else through that i don't make it hey guys come over and hang out my house for four hours and smell my cat awesome my advice is you just

[24:33]tell people you had a bunch of middle schoolers down there and that's why it smells so bad actually don't say that that sounds really weird when it comes out of my mouth i gotta don't ever say that don't ever say that as a defense i should not be a lawyer i wonder how it's gonna happen when i do get fired for this podcast like are they gonna bring me in and then play the podcast and then i have to like laugh i would laugh and then i would laugh and then i would some of these jokes right they're like is this you making a cat combo butthole joke and i'd be like but it's kind of true if you think about it right like it's the only thing

[25:00]you just had to be like hey tell me tell me you didn't laugh tell me you didn't laugh that's some good and i don't care who you are that's funny tell me you didn't laugh and they're like what about black licorice and you're like oh that's a good point uh aaron rolling going how's it going with you uh it's going really good uh well we we discussed uh tinned uh seafood uh in the opening so i just have a quick both a gout update and a tin seafood update oh i've been waiting yeah milestone today

[25:34]my uric acid's under six so i got a can of uh norwegian baltic sprats that i'm about to open this weekend maybe even after the podcast i'm gonna foul yeah i'm really stoked so i'm yeah i forgot this intro so fucking long after he eats the sprouts but it is uh it's under control i've been taking i've been taking medicine since october and it's

[26:08]uh today finally got below my target so let me ask you when you go into the doctor for gout yeah are they just like bro stop drinking beer and eating fucking meat and fish just don't do that you won't get gout or is this like a thing where like you're just more sensitive to that than other people no yeah it's i mean this is now that's now this is getting boring but basically they're like there's only so much you can do with your

[26:30]diet like some people are just genetically predisposed to it so they're like yeah you can try taking care of it with diet but it's it's not going to work like you especially once you get to like my advanced age like you got to just take some medicine like you should avoid these things in your diet it helps but thank you for telling the truth and warning us that that was boring because that was one of the most boring things i've ever heard my entire life i don't remember i did ask shit yeah you asked but uh so that's that's exciting i'm gonna do that uh probably after the show uh also on the crazy oh crazy friday night down there in oakland

[27:03]aaron is eating canned fish he's like all right it's time i can do whatever i want it's friday night everybody's asleep eat some crackers and open up some sardines oh god yeah um also on the food tip i um we've never done a lot of uh instant ramen in our house but we happen to have and um i tried the uh american cheese and the ramen trick and i it's uh it's pretty delicious so i can definitely i can definitely vouch wait shut up you can't just say the american cheese

[27:33]in the ramen trick and act like we all know what we're talking about okay it's not like a pretzel combo it's yeah i mean it's an internet trick where you you make a you make a regular old roy choy is the person who's written about it the most you make it just a regular old uh instant ramen but when it's finished you put it in the bowl and you put a slice of american cheese on it you split the we just did a half a slice so and then i split it and then it just it just melts into the broth it makes it all like unctuous and rich and delicious it's good can i tell you right

[28:03]now my daughter eats my youngest annabelle she eats i would guess 10 servings of ramen a week she is the only meal she can make and she makes it all on her own she boils the water she puts it in she makes ramen and she has now the only thing that she wants is spicy ramen and i'm it's so spicy that if she pours it out on like the tupperware the tupperware is permanently stained that color like if she spills the ramen sauce on the counter it's permanently stained like

[28:32]whatever she's fucking with it's extreme and i've heard of like cracking an egg in there and then you get a soft boiled egg in the ramen but fucking american cheese and and is your doctor like hey i don't know why you have gout like i don't know why this is and you're like have you heard about the american cheese trick and he's like okay wait never mind now first of all my doctor is a woman and the doctor is a woman yep you should be careful about the pronouns that

[29:00]you're using when you're talking about doctors as you know you're right but i don't think processed american cheese is necessarily a gout trigger but it is good on the ramen so i've got you go to a woman doctor to talk about your feet that's humiliating yeah it is it's true so you make a woman look at your feet guys this is this is really i'm i think i'm piecing something together here it's all virtual now so it's all just lab values like so you you like put your foot up into the camera no you don't have to see it anymore it's all it's all done based on my lab values like

[29:33]no one has to look at it to know i hit that with my foot on the keyboard i hit that sound when i was putting my foot on the key it doesn't it doesn't have to be yeah it's it's all it's all visual it doesn't have to or i mean all it's all done in the labs it doesn't have to be visual at all so you have to stare somebody in their eyes when they're talking to you about your feet oh that's the worst and you don't have to wear email i mean so you can talk to your doctor about not wear pants oh my god aaron's in heaven

[30:00]i love like aaron was like going out of his way to be like oh i saw a female doctor and like shame shame rob yeah saying anything but then he's like well actually i don't really go to her i just email her like aaron's also getting his like rhino pill rhino dick pills from this lady the email too right yeah yeah i was like i need the rhino i need the refill the rhino dick pills and she's like oh yeah i know your type yeah i know your type i need the refill the rhino dick pills and she's like oh yeah i know your type yeah i know your type i need the refill the rhino dick pills and she's like oh yeah i know your type yeah i know your type i need the refill the rhino dick pills and she's like oh yeah i know your type yeah you're the one she's also helping me grow back my foreskin i've got weights that i put on for three hours a day have you ever looked that up those guys really cool

[30:30]really cool part of the internet if you ever want to hang out that was kind of it for me uh i mean i'm yeah it's about all right cheese and foreskin or how much how much weight do you need rob i don't think a lot yeah you're talking to the wrong guy for this but i gotta ask aaron aaron let's hear it russell do we have an update on the car yeah yeah update yeah there's not much uh we've been driving a uh

[31:04]we've been driving a chevy uh rental shoot i can't remember the name but it's a big white suv yeah it was an eight have you been keeping it on the driveway yeah yeah keep it on the driveway uh got rid of the subarus now we just have one car in the driveway yeah and uh yeah there no seems like uh things are progressing there at the uh body shop and uh this is this is so aaron they're they're doing the chevy suburban that seats like 18 people just as a gas guzzler they're like hey if we rent

[31:32]it it's really not that big of a deal to the environment yeah we've used half a tank of gas this week just driving this damn thing from here to berkeley and back it's so aaron being like oh god we got to get this fucking rental car and then he gets one that guzzles gas during the time where the gases are probably the highest price ever in the united states history it's the one time aaron sidled with a car that gives him and i'm sure driving through california people probably give you dirty looks right if you're driving a huge gas guzzling car no people drive big cars out here it's not that's not that's not even a that's not even a thing but yeah it's fine but yeah i think

[32:02]tuesday tuesday is when i when i get my real car back and hopefully the door closes just fine and we'll pick it up from the body shop i did make the mistake of uh yeah i'll tell this story uh i made the mistake of not taking aaron don't have time this will be a gym this will be a shut up uh russ we're only going how's it going with you we don't have time i need this i need this in my life rob i did make the mistake of not taking the car seat out of the car when i went to to the uh to drop it

[32:33]off at the body shop rookie move yeah and the so i get to the body shop i have to take the car seat out of the car so then i've got the car seat my water bottle uh a little bit of water and i'm like bottle uh a little box of children's books some masks and whatever and so i go stand in the in the doorway of the of the auto body shop office and i have to wait for the enterprise rental car van to come pick me up and then the van comes to get me and i have to lift the whole damn car seat into

[33:00]that van and sit down ride to the rental car place and then i get out and i have to like carry the car seat into the rental car but i don't know why i didn't just leave it at home to begin with it was that was a mistake no the car i'm telling you aaron i am car seat free in my life right now it's got to be amazing it is like walking on clouds it is just heaven we can take ubers my kids were imagine my kids both sat in the front seat today driving around they thought they were like living gods it was unbelievable i have a colleague from india and her kids when

[33:31]her kids were like eight and six they used to like to go visit india because it meant they could sit in the front seat of the car oh yeah i'm sure what what um aaron this i'm going to this out but you should really think about fucking your wife in the back of that rental car because then the next person that rents that car they're never going to know that somebody fucked in that car aaron i mean what what makes you think i ever stopped thinking about doing that anywhere like of course i'm thinking about it thinking about it yeah yeah all the time can

[34:03]you i would love to hear how how would you even say that to your wife like would you just be like hey i i've been thinking i think that's how i would do it i would say like i've been thinking and right away my wife would go on high alert she'd be okay wait a minute you've been thinking about what and i was like we should probably fuck in the back of this car because nobody it'll be funny i'll probably just do it in the post game tomorrow morning over breakfast she'll be like how's the podcast and i'll be like well rob kind of thinks we should fuck in the back of the rental car and then just see what happens so good such a good idea i pulled that i pulled

[34:31]that move at st olaf i brought my dad's van up all the back seats are out jenny and i fucked like crazy because it was like the time in your life where you're like you're all by yourself for and it's just like oh yeah we're gonna go nuts now if i asked jenny this if i asked jenny to sleep in the back of a car she would just divorce me on the spot she'd be like what i paid eleven thousand dollars for a mattress and you think i'm gonna sleep in the back of some fucking car get the fuck was there a disco ball in your dad's van that's why hey start at the disco ball and go

[35:02]to town i wonder who else said hey we could fuck in the back of this car not funny not funny not funny actually very unfunny make this bit funny i'm gonna have to keep part of it in am i gonna have to bleep out jenny's name jenny's mom listens to this i'm gonna talk about your dad your dad had this your dad had the back seats all right he brought you the car with the back seats out there there was never there's never bad

[35:30]there's never imagine his conversation before he drops us i was like he'll never know he'll never know this is sick that you guys are making this funny the one time you guys are funny on this fucking podcast and i gotta keep this shit in to my sisters i apologize that you had to listen to that don't think i have not thought about it don't think about it yourself please disgusting russell rolling going how's it going with you rolling going everything's going good as you guys know um we talked about this a little bit what we do on the podcast we talk about how

[36:02]rob sets everything up he records everything matt aaron i just generally just show up and try to help rob be funny but one thing i want to say is that i'm not a big fan of the podcast i'm not a that i've been doing the last few weeks is writing the summary for our podcast for uh for the website that when we put it up there's a brief summary for it and then i realized that every week rob adds a paragraph to my summary and the paragraph says so every week i like take like painstaking

[36:31]time to write like a thoughtful summary make sure i call out everything you know something that all of us did be inclusive and everything yeah they're very good in this last every week yeah they're very good in this last every week yeah they're very good in this last every week please mention feet if you do we can get aaron loves feet to be something that is searchable online and i feel like it will be worth it and so i was like he does this every week so i was like well maybe it's working so i started i decided to spend some time this morning and because i'm our seo guy and i was looking i was like is this actually working so i googled aaron loves feet

[37:01]just to see what happened oh no oh no this is the dumbest seo strategy ever because it turns out that everything when you search aaron loves feet is the dumbest seo strategy ever because it turns out that everything when you search aaron loves feet is the dumbest seo strategy ever because it turns about aaron rogers covid toe you guys remember that is a bummer and then i was like i can't there can't be that many stories about it but then it turns out he also made fun of rex ryan's foot fetish a while back yeah so there are two there are two aaron rogers stories about aaron rogers loving feet so aaron loves feet is all and i was like what if i put in aaron loves feet podcast

[37:34]because then it's like well we have to pop up then no there are podcasts about aaron rogers loving feet we will never ever get a download because of the aaron loves feet strategy rob i'm okay with that because we've seen we've seen what happens when we put the real foot freak hashtags in our instagram they're out there these people are real and they they believe in their cause and they don't

[38:00]want us messing around in their their playground if they're if we're not if we're not for real it turns out that true foot freaks are way more into their shit than the beck did a better foot our fans are like maybe i'll call and leave a voicemail maybe not the foot freak people they're on call 24 hours a day we can post something anytime and they're always wanting us to dm them pictures so uh yeah i don't know what are we gonna do we gotta get i don't know somehow my plan to make aaron has fallen apart but russell i appreciate you searching that i think and is it also true russell that you were recently fired from your job is that what i heard what what uh we have 10 searches for aaron loves

[38:36]feet on your work computer i have not i have not had any co-workers come up to me and do the big bopper impression recently but hopefully i'll survive oh god i i was also noticing so i also found out through a mutual friend that rob's wife was on a podcast a few weeks ago a mutual friend told me that jenny was on a podcast is that what we're saying now is that the that's the number that you know so i was like oh i i'm interested because

[39:03]this person who do you know that would that would know that jenny was on a podcast it's like yeah it's like it's like someone i'm it's like someone i met through rob's um uh wedding video or something like that but so anyway so i was hearing about this and i like part of me was like oh this can't be that big of a deal whatever i'm gonna go look and see like how many downloads this podcast gets and i don't know if i'm supposed to say it or not so if rob wants to say it he can say it but i went and looked and i was like say it please it's the path pod podcast so it's essentially

[39:32]about pathologists i think so they do like interview a new pathologist every week i think is is my understanding of it and so i went and looked and i was like well obviously our podcast has to be way better than this right so i went and looked they get 800 downloads an episode they are more than four to five times more than what we get when we get a week and it's about the same number of episodes and the whole time i was just thinking this has to crush rob jenny's going out she does one podcast and she destroys rob in the downloads it's not even close rob what do you

[40:03]what do you have to answer for this it it's when you when you you did text that uh rob is not even the most successful podcaster in his whole household it was it was absolutely heartbreaking because i realized like oh i actually like work really hard at this like this is something i put multiple hours a week into uh and jenny appreciate it we yeah jenny quickly went online and is already on a more successful podcast so i am going to ask if maybe that very serious podcast uh we can maybe advertise on it make like maybe i did i did yell

[40:34]at her a number of times for not mentioning my podcast on there by name like maybe we can rob you're supposed to call it our podcast while we're while you're talking to us oh yeah i forgot about that sorry no but i i don't i mean she said she's like oh i'm gonna be on this podcast i said oh what are you gonna use for a mic like all these i was like what's the compression she's like i don't have no idea what you're talking about i was like you let her use your mic or did you take all that shit you're like fuck that you're gonna sound like aaron on this oh no she got she got to use the nice mic she did not take my um i had a number

[41:03]of parody songs i had written for her uh she did not take any of those i thought it was a good idea i thought it would be really good but well you know those pathologists i mean they're like that's top humor so i mean yeah i guess they would have really got yeah it's like hey your bit about eating ass killed wow they love that we were talking about sarcomas but then i went into eating ass and then wow it really is quite the turn yeah humiliating there's one more thing i wanted to share with you guys as we've talked before about uh love languages right like one of the five love

[41:37]what are the other four touch touch doesn't matter okay quality time quality time acts of service gifts and words of affirmation words of affirmation russell good job remembering that you're so smart i've said before that i'm not a gifts person i don't really care about gifts but i have to say this is a little bit different but one of my nephews got me a gift for easter today it's easter time around this yeah and the gift was he got me old school packs of baseball cards

[42:04]and i was like this was so much fun to open old school baseball cards with my nephew and like go through them kind of sort them by team sort them by position everything but i thought i could i could share the four best cards that i got with you guys real yeah i'm excited but you know what russ this sounds like a countdown to me oh yeah that's the case i can get my fifth card i was only gonna do four a countdown could be any five so there's no there's we could do whatever so what what was

[42:32]the uh brand that did you get tops did you get donors so they did not they got the well they actually they've gotten me four packs but i've only opened two we're saving two more we only opened two today we're saving the other other two so smart thinking yeah i will say this don't say anything but they were fleer not flare but fleer so it's not like i'd say it's kind of in line with tops it's not like an upper deck it's not what year let's see if we can guess what's your favorite card so the first four are fleer 91 the four four best cards i got from the fleer 91 pack i was going to share

[43:02]with you guys okay yeah let's see all right the first is hall of fame catcher gary carter you guys remember gary yeah gary carter the expos the expos yeah the expos this is actually a giants card though not an expose one that was the bummer i wanted the expose one can you imagine russ is your uncle you get in these cards and he's explaining to you which gary carter card you want and you're like oh my god this is a disaster well actually we spent most

[43:31]of the time like organizing them by you remember how cards have the number on the back so if you get the whole set yeah we we organize these as many ways as possible next card next card i got a great one this is really confusing this is jack morris detroit tigers twins hall of famer yeah but the card is fleer 91 it shows him on the tigers but he was on the twins in 91 how does that work because they printed him before he got over the twins printed him before free agency huh yeah so that's so yeah there's a there always have ones like that so they usually a lot of

[44:05]the contracts and stuff like that and um you know who could take pictures of what who could place them where they would they'd be all messed up with different team colors and stuff do you guys know russell do you know there's twitch channels now of guys just opening baseball card packs you could watch along while they open would you guys rather do this podcast with me or rather watch me open baseball cards with my nephew i'm kind of down with watching you open baseball cards honestly

[44:30]like i your your niece and nephew came on the earlier before we started recording talk to us and it was a blast like we had a blast with them yes all right the next two cards were two of my favorites because i think these are two of the best fat guy baseball players ever i'll give you each a guess okay best fat guy let me go first because i know nothing about baseball i gotta say john crock it's gotta be john crock is correct he's not even fat i mean what do you

[45:00]mean he's like a big guy but he's not like he's not i mean i don't know i don't know i don't know if if rob guessed him on the first try you gotta see like pete and camellia fat he he's a guy where if you if you made a video with him fucking your wife you could still watch it it wouldn't be here's the thing if you make a video of some guy fucking your wife right and it's a big fat guy it's not a good sign like if you if you're stuck with a big fat guy fucking your wife it's just you you haven't worked hard enough to make that cuckold video you gotta find go out and

[45:31]find somebody hot i mean it would be a bummer to watch some guy fuck your wife and he looks like you it's like well i could say this i could set up a beer like who cares so i was gonna guess john crock but i'm gonna guess cecil fielder yes cecil fielder is incorrect this player was uh better than cecil fielder so aaron i'll give you a little bit of a hint better than cecil fielder what what what fat guy's better than cecil fielder yeah oh uh cc sabathia tony gwynn tony gwynn you guys are amazing i just had to say fat baseball player you guys got a bowl

[46:05]we're so good i mean i once had the opportunity to yeah i want he was best hitter all time he's a 32 inch bat too which is amazing um i once had the opportunity to go up like one of these coaching conventions and you know to get an autographed baseball from tony gwynn wow i was all pumped to do it and i got within about 20 feet of him and saw the look on his face and just kept walking by because he had zero desire to be there signing baseballs or anything like that and so i was like

[46:32]i'm not gonna just give him this space this experience yeah so all right last card us at the podcast convention in 30 years i also got a pack of 88 flares so a few years older you guys will remember it when you see it but the card i got an amazing card our friends will love this one vincent bow jackson how awesome is that nice that's fantastic is that his rookie year no 86 it's not a rookie no it's not

[47:05]everybody steve that yes that steve has met him that's right times recently rolling going rob how's it going with you i'll tell you what i've got a sick new fetish i want to tell you guys okay and i thought about this and i was going to bed and i i sprung out of bed much like if i heard the ring ring ring of santa claus slay and i had to throw back the sash which we don't need to explain what the sash is in a room everybody knows what a sash is we all have our favorite

[47:32]sashes i mean the hours i have spent arguing with my wife about how to throw back the sash how our sash looks uh this fetish that i have that i had to wake up to write you guys about is that i am now full-time sleeping with socks on i am sleeping with socks on when i go to sleep i have socks on my feet and when i wake up those socks are still on my feet my feet are encased in fabric all night long and i like it it feels good you got like a lotion regime or anything

[48:03]because that's the next step it's like the moisture is first and then put the socks on that we didn't sign up for the lotion regime i'm gonna big search that real quick just wait a second lotion regime you know a lot of this is a lot of this is coming full circle and i think we know why rob has been trying to get all of a sudden rosie to have this foot fetish for like the last 90 episodes or whatever it's all coming around yeah you're tipping your hand you're tipping your hand a little bit too much here you might need to just stop right here yeah you think me doth protest too much

[48:35]rob we just so we can understand like are you wearing like the full pajamas when you go to bed with socks or is it and you're just like nothing in socks or what is it here's i will tell you my bedtime routine and then i actually want to ask you guys how are you sleeping because i want to visualize it uh here's the thing we all know aaron wears a nightcap we know that's true but here's what i do is that i get into bed i've got the boxers on i've got the socks on i then take the boxers off in bed okay but i don't throw them on the floor i leave them on the floor

[49:05]sandwiched somewhere in the bed so it's like a it's like in double dare it's like a double dare where you had to dig around in the nose you know until you found the flag that's what it's like with my boxers because if i throw my boxers on the floor guess who's sleeping in the room the fucking dog he'll eat my shit and i can't have that so i pause pause yes he's got pause he's got four of them what your dog sleeps in the room oh yeah oh see this is what we were talking

[49:30]earlier about cats dating the lady with all the dogs i'm out oh yeah if you got an animal that's that needs to sleep in your room it's out that's a deal breaker for me my dog the other day was like oh i'm gonna try that one what okay so let me get a you're naked i get it a contraire i am not naked i am wearing socks you're wearing socks yep are these are these are these the same socks that you've been wearing all day or do you change them they are the same socks i've been wearing all day

[50:05]i got the same socks on i'm wearing them all night long yeah you gotta put some clean socks my feet feel warm okay and guess what in the morning it's almost a 24-hour sock period so when i take it off it feels so good it feels twice as good as when you normally take your socks off it's so great so if you guys were dating somebody and they were like oh wait i'm gonna put socks on to go to sleep that would be a deal breaker right like you couldn't deal with that that this is a marriage

[50:31]shit i think it's fine but i think you're also right i think you're also right i think you're that that you do have a sick new fetish and this is pretty weird i'm glad you can you know i'm glad this is a safe space rob that you can get this you guys should try that thank you for sharing yeah it's it's pretty it's pretty sick i have tried it but the problem is like if i'm okay with socks on if the if the sheet isn't but this is this is an issue anyway if the sheet is not tucked in at the bottom of the bed i can do socks but if the sheet's tucked in down there then i'm already too constrained and then i can't do so la la my sheets are tucked into the bottom of the

[51:03]bed get the fuck out of here my sheets are tucked in at the bottom of the bed get the fuck out of here we've never jenny and i never make the bed do you guys make the bed in the morning jenny and i never make it we both refuse no way no yeah no matt okay wait a minute wait a minute let's pick do matt and i make the does matt make the bed thumbs up if you think matt makes the bed what do you think yeah i think so too matt you make the bed well let's let's be honest like there's a lot of times where i am up before sarah yeah it's like our bed is made and i have to give

[51:31]sarah credit that she makes it way more than i do but if i pass by and it's not me what's the point of making a bed why doesn't anyone care about a bed being made you're just getting back in why do you wipe your ass when you take a shit you're just going to take a shit again that's a great point i'm gonna think about that you're supposed to what with the what now i gotta be honest you guys have said a lot of things that have been life-changing for me on this podcast today i'm not gonna say which ones but there's

[52:03]been a lot of things that have been said some stuff that i've got to reevaluate on hey siri add the shopping list toilet paper and baseball cards all right let's get into the album i can't talk actually you know what fuck the album tell me your sleeping style right now aaron how are you sleeping uh just i break i break into your place i pull back the covers i peer below what am i gonna see

[52:32]uh just just me and my boxers but i keep my clothes next to the bed in case of an earthquake and sometimes if i have dry skin on my feet then i lotion up my feet and put on some socks once in a while if they need moisturizing i'm gonna come what i don't want to laugh at that sometimes i know i'm gonna edit stuff out but i have to say it

[53:01]oh god oh god that was one of those times there was there was a there was a good pregnant pause there i thought about it i was like do i really want to take this work to click all these buttons i'm going to click to edit that out to make these guys laugh and the answer was yes i want to make you guys laugh that's all i care about you you storing clothes by your bed in case of an earthquake is the most realistic terrifying shit i've ever heard in my life like the fact that that has to be on your mind is absolutely terrifying i mean we haven't had them for a long time now but yeah

[53:32]well shit i can't like i don't want to wake up and not have any clothes i gotta get out of here we're due anytime let's talk about the album so we are talking about erica badu erica badu dropped out of grambling college to make a 19 song demo now first of all you already know you're talented if your demo album is 19 songs long like that is that is absolutely insane she was picked um to sing a song with d'angelo for the high school high soundtrack now this i've never heard of this movie

[54:02]has wu-tang lil kim the roots a tribe called quest and a bunch of guys that aaron would know like listen to this song it's a marvin gaye uh tammy terrell cover of course but listen to erica badu when she comes in here can you imagine your your first song you're singing with d'angelo right oh it's interesting to hear this

[54:32]because both of them are really trying to be faithful to the original and then and then you hear them eventually kind of come into their own their own selves later but this is a very cool track what do you what do you guys think they thought when their track came after the cannibal ox track cannibal ox no cannibal they're not on high school they're like well at least we're ahead of slobber bone we're way ahead of slobber bone that's good and if you want to find that joke by the way go back to episode 18 18 that's for all the foot freaks out there that joke um so now

[55:02]let's fast forward all of a sudden she's 26 she's released her first album baduism it's the number one album on the r&b charts it's got the number one song on the r&b charts the album goes on to win uh to be nominated for a number of grammys she's wins best r&b album and this is why this album is really what a lot of people consider the absolute uh or absolute not start but it's kind of the keystone of this uh movement called neo soul it's like the apotheosis what kazuntite the apotheosis

[55:39]is what i was gonna say uh and i came up with that myself uh note to self edit aaron out um but it includes uh maxwell lauren hill uh and my body double d'angelo uh i mean you can even look back to like michelle diacello tony tony tony and stuff like that this idea of uh of neo soul so and rob i had a thought about this i i know this is early in the album talk to get to a list but uh neo soul is not something that i actually got into

[56:04]that much outside of d'angelo but i thought it would be good to set the stage for what was neo soul what did it become where did it come from i got a list right away i'm going straight to the list for another better better countdown oh yeah flare 91 dave parker great card oh yeah literally a better podcast we want to get 800 downloads a week that's the podcast we need this came up for because um we're going to hear from rafael sadiq later on the list and i thought

[56:34]to myself is rafael sadiq uh oakland's own of tony tony tony i thought rafael sadiq has got to be the godfather of neo soul but it turns out the internet tells me in fact that roy ayers was godfather of neo soul and roy ayers was recording in the 70s he was a los angeles-based vibraphonist um and had a wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute how come when i ask online what a vibraphonist is i end up getting 29 a minute um and then you just say it like what can you explain what a vibraphone is

[57:05]yeah you know the vibes like uh you know like similar to like a xylophone i mean i might even be doing it wrong we've probably done a vibraphone type list russell you're the you're the expert on instruments but a uh a mallet instrument that has some uh vibrations vibrations and happy tones to it i think it's roy ayers i think it's not famous spot but what the fuck everybody loves the sunshine by roy ayers ubiquity you guys will recognize some of the famous tune

[57:34]aaron maybe i'll edit this out but what is this what it what makes this neo soul well it is not neo soul in fact it's it's the it's what preceded neo soul so it's kind of what a lot of people imagine these folks who came to neo soul were listening to because this is 20 years before neo soul so uh the the hallmark of neo soul is that it was both looking back and looking forward so we're going to hear a little bit more about that in just a moment so let's get started so we're going to hear from uh the way neo soul incorporated hip-hop later but um it started

[58:04]a lot of people think it started from the soul jazz acid jazz jazz funk and roy ayers was one of the really important players in that in that movement so um i'm kind of going chronologically here as far as like what i was able to tell kind of how did neo soul evolve and it started um you know with soul music first and that's what people were looking back toward speaking of errors did you know on baseball cards they do not show fielding stats there are no errors on the back while he's hitting stats why not why not any errors matt you were a baseball coach why don't

[58:33]they talk about errors well much like this podcast they like to just prop up they don't like to knock down yeah yeah positive so now we're going to jump all the way ahead to 1993 um a lot of the internet thinks that this is the first neo soul album this is michelle and daggett ocello's plantation lullabies i had a hard time to me this sounds really funky and it's it all comes from prince she was on prince's label in fact for a while they didn't do it for a while necessarily get along but i didn't put prince on the list but there wouldn't be neo soul without

[59:03]prince but this was the closest to me that i felt like is getting toward the erica badu sound so this is dreadlock um also as a bonus they're talking about black hair um which erica badu does pretty strongly on her album so michelle and daggett ocello dreadlock you know this reminds me of a little bit of that cantaloupe that uh the one by us three yes yeah i think a lot of neo soul was was drawing on jazz instrumentation jazz rhythms i mean this makes me want to say flip fantasia i don't know why but i get it man

[59:34]all right so next track uh i don't think anyone would call this track neo soul but i did read that erica badu was a brandy fan i am also a brandy fan i think everyone should listen to more brandy and so i'm going to give this some credit because erica badu was inspired by brandy this is brandy from her first album it's i want to be down sounds like we're in wisconsin brandy dude brandy's first album is a jam the whole thing just knocks whatever happened to brandy what she was so popular with what would you say late 90s early

[60:04]2000s or when when was her heyday yeah i think she just made enough money that she didn't have to do a whole lot else i know she actually recently performed live with erica badu within the last couple of years so they definitely still run in the same circles i remember this as being a kind of music that you would listen to like at a middle school dance and you would be pumped because you're like all we can do is bump and grind to the song it's too slow to dance to slow dance it's not fast enough to mosh pit it is bump and grind time but i remember this kind of music being

[60:34]very very popular when we were growing up right and this definitely is is sort of going back toward the i wouldn't call it new jack sound but it's definitely less live instrumentation more more um more drum machine but we're gonna get into the live instrumentation and i mentioned rafael sadiq uh famously of tony tony tony this one's own you cannot talk about in my mind you can't talk about neo soul without talking about the roots and philadelphia and so i combine the two this is the roots off their album iladel half like this

[61:04]iladel half life this is what they do featuring rafael sadiq famously of tony tony tony don't worry i'm gonna edit that out where you screw that up thank you you're not gonna okay i hear this so now you're hearing a lot more similarities to what we hear on the erica badu album absolutely does this have does this have joey chestnut on guitar or not no this is but this was about 10 years before that one but thank you for remembering that's like a lot of that guy

[61:31]here's the thing is that that joey chestnut guy yeah i'll i'll watch him eat hot dogs for free but i'd pay to see the size of his shits you know what i mean you can also hear uh erica talks about the rim shot and you can hear a lot of rim shots and the drums in that one which i think is thanks to quest love and finally uh iladel half-life was like 97 98 so that's really close to the same time that erica was actually working with the roots uh jumping forward to 2000 i don't think you can

[62:01]talk about neo soul again without talking about jill scott uh this is from the album who is jill scott i find it to me to be a sort of companion piece to baduism and i like this track it's just one of my favorites on the album this is love rain so aaron describe neo soul in a sentence you get one sentence one sentence yep well it's music that looks backward to the soul jazz of the 70s and looks forward to the hip-hop of the 90s and brings them together

[62:32]so it's kind of what you said earlier when i wasn't really listening that's all i got i don't know i mean it's and i think it's like kind of like a mix of jazz r&b and hip-hop kind of what you're getting at right yeah and i think i think the big thing that differentiated it and i mean i'm gonna get this wrong and and some people who were neo soul artists would would have rejected the label but i think one of the things that differentiated it from r&b of the time uh was the live instrumentation um so that was you know a lot of r&b in the 90s was

[63:02]was using um you know computers and and machine type stuff um and then i think in general the sound is like a little bit less shiny and polished maybe than some of the r&b that was going on at the time and not super radio friendly like no not always strong hooks um that sort of thing so you asked for one sentence let's do it i had to say aaron there because the sound clip says russell aaron i wasn't trying to cut you off i apologize i thought you were doing let's talk about the album enough listen you want

[63:32]to hear you want to hear that dirty sound i mean they intentionally put vinyl sounds on this you can hear it yeah it drives me nuts too yeah and especially and especially for this stuff you guys probably don't know this but i download the flack files for this when i'm playing it on the podcast oh so like this album that i downloaded is almost a gig right and it sounds so much like a lot of vinyl but it's over it's it's overdone a little bit so rimshot i read on is that is that is that over the acceptable porn limit rob weren't you listen it is kind of like when you when you're bored

[64:05]on bing and you're like vintage or tan lines that's when you know you've gotten too far is when you're searching like stuff like tan lines listen because you know it's gonna be true amateur stuff i don't want to get into it uh it's it's it's in the business this is what we call a hack listen don't get me into my it's my technique it's like red bikini but bikini and but it's red and then on the beach listen if you're not staring at yourself in that black screen after you're done

[64:33]you haven't gone deep enough you know what i mean like you know i mean like if you're just searching like sex bing it's like no come on we gotta don't even talk about what kind of musculature she has all right so this is rimshot intro on genius it says that there's sexual innuendo about the song and i was like what's the sexual innuendo and i realized the last verse is get your stick up against that drum i want to hear it i want my rim shot

[65:02]i mean that seems pretty hot as hell what do you guys think for the opening song snapping sound throughout the entire record i'll tell you what i'm just gonna get my thoughts on this album out i think this is a great opener i think almost every song on this album sounds very very very similar and i loved it it was it was a vibe like i was at work you know correcting papers whatever the fuck i do i couldn't even tell you what i do it's so depressing but i was just bobbing my head the whole time like

[65:32]it didn't matter what song was on i was like i am buzzing to this i am jamming it's a good album to work with it's a good album to have if you've got something i'm going on you kind of are listening to it and you're in the zone and kind of doing what you're doing it's a great album to work with and looking at the wave files of this album there's never a build there's it's so different than david bowie where it was quiet and then loud and you know you'd get that you'd get those big dynamic changes this album is the same volume the whole time almost the same tempo the whole time

[66:00]but it's a fucking groove it really is on and on this was her debut this won her best r&b female performance at the grammys in 98 what a day what a day what a day two weeks at number one on the r&b charts i love the mix here of the drums and her voice the bass and the piano and the drums and the chords all come together sorry is this the most famous or most famous song from this album or the biggest commercial hit this was the big hit yeah it was the lead single i mean the next lifetime

[66:31]is actually the song i know the best but yeah uh i read i didn't i wouldn't have known this until i read it that she's talking about five percent uh ideology and i do think that's one of the other hallmarks of neo soul is that the subject matter of the lyrics expanded it wasn't just it wasn't just love or lost love it was just love and i think that's one of the other hallmarks it was starting to think about and you know it gets into eventually gets into environmentalism and yeah different facets of relationships um and so i think that's one of the other things that people notice about neo soul spilling oyster sauce on your keyboards is some of the hit songs i've

[67:03]actually heard yeah just you just wasted all those oysters gave their lives for nothing you think i'm happy about that i i ate some i didn't eat the whole thing here and i'm kind of ashamed about that actually i was so stressed i didn't eat the rest uh apple tree this is my favorite song off the album it's the fourth single i like the whistle you know the time when it's got a little more tempo to it than some of the other ones i enjoyed it i'm just gonna say this if you're gonna make a parody song of this it's

[67:30]actually there's incredibly different ways she sings each verse which i found really fascinating when i listened to it if you guys were gonna have a tree that produced fruit in your yard what kind of tree would you fall great question russell god damn that's an all-time question matt how about you you could have any sort of fruit tree or food tree in your yard what would you pick it's a tough one russell really going deep here with these questions i i might have to go you know i want to say mango but then it's like i don't eat that many mangoes but i eat a lot of

[68:03]mango nobody really likes mango mangoes like uh you know you throw it in when you've got too much pineapple or something like that like yeah nobody really likes me honestly russell i think it might be apples i can fuck with an apple tree giving me nice apples every day oof that sounds good to me is that boring am i boring i know a little bit oh okay aaron what's your choice what would you have i'm going peaches i love peach cobbler and peach crisps so i want to be able to have some peaches that's what i want what's a peach crisp oh man it's when peaches you peel them up you cook them

[68:36]up with some sugar and then put some kind of like crumbly topping over the top put some ice cream on it bake it i may have had those at dinner in the dark but i kept crunching on them so i didn't really enjoy the flavor it was so loud everyone is mad about how loud you're eating oh delicious other side of the game a little more jazzy on this one this is one of the ones recorded with the roots i think right yeah this is one of them so basically she recorded this album and then

[69:01]there's part of it where she went and recorded with the roots in philly she didn't like what was going on i'm not quite sure technically this is just quest love it doesn't have the whole roots oh okay yeah i mean you can hear that song yeah and he's dragging you can hear it dragging yeah yeah aaron we've talked a lot about the roots before do they have an album on this list or are they being screwed because they haven't been on this list at this point or what's your thoughts i don't know man here's the thing i there's such an interesting group i did listen to uh i listened to do you want more which is sort of their first

[69:33]major label record yes i'll just say yes right now i do want more whatever whatever it is that's always the answer i mean you guys know like quest love is one of my favorite musicians and people but i and and i know that some of the like i know things fall apart pretty well um but i don't know they they tend to be unfocused in my mind um so i don't know if they've got one on the list or not and i wouldn't even say they're getting screwed their guitar player joey justin is very focused when he eats all those hot dogs though right and the camera's very focused when he's holding a

[70:04]ruler next to the size of his shit and i mean they're an incredible band i've seen them live one time like they they they're incredible pros and they like they play together so well but as an album like i can't always get down with uh and yeah sounds like poetry aaron incredible pro sometimes mix number nine thank you there's another one that's recorded in philly i think right yeah i think so listen to the vinyl

[70:31]here listen to that vinyl sound right it's almost overpowering honestly you guys don't like it i we're not listening i don't mind it so much but i have it on uh j dilla does it on donuts which i own on vinyl and so i was listening to this on vinyl i was like why is my vinyl crackly you guys know i washed it like the thing was washed it was clean i was like why is there something like that static and so i had to go stream it and found it it was on there and it's like a dirty trick i think if that's quest playing drums on sometimes that's a good example of him playing drums like a machine

[71:00]because it's it's fully just like automatic but totally next lifetime what makes quest love such a great drummer is it like what what makes him stand out as a drummer you've said ringo's a shit drummer aaron what makes what makes quest love stand out i mean what makes him stand out is he was the only one doing it at the time i mean the roots were the only band big time big i mean shout out to high respects in minneapolis but they were the only big time band with a live drummer but um he famously talks about how he worked so hard to play like a metronome to sound like a drum machine because like he had to as a hip-hop drummer had to sound the way hip-hop was

[71:34]sounding at the time and then in the live show he can do more and play from his jazz influence and that's really where a lot of this neo soul comes from right is kind of a rejection of that computer over processed r&b where it's the same thing and now we can get into a little bit more of a groove a little bit more jazz almost right you're right yeah i think you're right so fucking smart second single off the album next lifetime now the spoken intro that's definitely like that's a 90s oh yeah this is the one that's got

[72:08]andre and method man pete rock there's a bunch of artists on this song right on the song or in the video i don't know maybe in the video i think in the video they're in they're on the video because russell why would andre 3000 be in the video what do you think they were opening baseball cards together on the stream they're making babies it's because it's because they were dating russell this erica badu was

[72:37]dating andre 3000 and eventually married him which forced him to ditch his family and go into the studio to record aqua mini we all remember that story very very good afro this is just dedicated to quest love oh it is i didn't know that yeah oh i love this line i mean her voice we haven't said it yet but it's honestly i think one of the strongest we've heard

[73:05]on the list uh especially from a female artist it's just a crazy killer voice in my head so i just realized this man you you're the outcast guy wasn't miss jackson written about erica badu's mom i don't know yes i think it was wasn't it i think you're right he wrote he wrote miss jackson after they yeah after he and erica broke up because by then she was with common

[73:30]it was like it was like a joke in the hip-hop uh forums that i used to frequent that like oh that guy's dating erica badu now he's gonna make a whack album like that's everybody got upset about that because common made electric circus after the after she was i've never realized how cool i am until i hear about what you guys did for fun back when i was wrong i give it to you when i was frequenting the message boards with wrong gonna give it to you and i i will say i even at the time i recognized how misogynist that is like

[74:00]these guys have their own free will make their own damn albums by their own choice she's a great musician it's not anybody like if if somebody made a whack album they made a whack album it's nobody else's fault but their own certainly listen how jazzy this one is yeah i think uh i thought of you know i i wouldn't necessarily have guessed brandy as an influence for her but you definitely hear billy holiday as an influence for her all over this record pretty pretty amazing bass line there going on too right yeah and i mean that rim shot coming

[74:30]in hard four leaf clover i do think i mean as you guys said it gets samey it's a long groove you can think of the whole album as one groove i never got tired of it i played it over and over again i think that it does reward careful listening i think she's saying a lot in

[75:00]interesting ways if you're listening closely and it's one of those so for me i mean you guys might disagree but for me it's similar to like a stevie wonder album where it's great to just put on and vibe to and enjoy but i think it rewards repeat and careful listening and that's a unique trait no love which is the opposite of what i think of when i hear this album i mean this is no love is the opposite of what i think when i hear this album because don't you just think about putting this on while making sweet love too much static

[75:30]right you can hear the static no we just washed the sheets we freshly washed so much static it's like a wintergreen going on down there does that make sense no what no i think it is what i mean it's got to be in the top five of the sexiest albums we've we've heard right i mean have you heard that prince song um jack off have you heard that actually that some people think that's one of the that's one of the sex i was i mean yeah what are of the albums we've heard what are the sexiest ones uh you can you can leave the music playing

[76:02]but it's uh it's this thriller who do it's beyonce by beyonce nirvana thriller what the fuck rob uh are we counting that uh red salmon album or whatever that was beef captain beef captain beef art i don't think he's on the list anymore you gotta eliminate it i would say uh voodoo yeah what's that uh one where he talks about putting a wire

[76:31]hot wire up your ass i sometimes that's also wu-tang yeah yep wu-tang yeah this keyboard sound i think this must be james poyser and the keys that's that's pretty typical of the roots at the time i think this one also had ron carter that was the double bass player that we heard on low end theory i think right yeah also played bass in miles davis's second yeah i texted you guys this this week but i gotta tell you anyone for anybody still listening to the podcast if you're gonna listen to this

[77:02]album find the biggest over the head headphones you possibly can and put those on because i was wearing my um like apple airpods and i took those off and put on like beats like over the ear did you did you take them off and put them in between your bed sheets and let them lay there the whole night or not i did the other day realize that i was sleeping on a peanut m&m so is that similar where i realized i was like there's a peanut m&m back behind me i'd been eating them in my bed and they'd spilled

[77:30]down behind me i thought you weren't eating in your bed i know and it was kind of a sick little thing it did you sleep naked like you don't now you don't know where else a peanut m&m ended up like you get this is a good reason to wear some boxers to listen anywhere a peanut m&m ends up on my body great i'm happy it doesn't matter you couldn't tell me a place in my body m&m could be anywhere it's not great anywhere anywhere i'll take it it's so good i love it certainly and this is so this is the same as it certainly before but instead of the jazzy version this is now a cover of cool in the air cover a um sampling cool in the gang summer badness remix

[78:04]most famously probably heard on will smith summertime yes god she's got comfortable in the groove totally you guys remember a while back i asked you if you'd ever heard of a show called back what was it called that chop squad did it better yes mongolian mongolian chop squad

[78:31]so it turns out back mongolian chop squad also they i told you guys they honor all these artists and one of them they honored kind of uh this neo soul sound and r&b and they had a character that was named let me find it now if you say john crock i think you're looking at the wrong notes it was erica blige they had they had a combo character of erica badu and mary j blige and i

[79:01]was like when it comes to honoring when you're when you've got the what kind of tv shows were those again anime and when you get when you talk about anime that honors great neo soul artists like erica badu who does it better back mongolian chop squad does it better dude seriously erica badu character in mongolian chop squad i like how russ has his finger down on obscure anime guys we're so smart final song rimshot outro

[79:30]i will say aaron did the list this week and one of the reasons is i tried to do a list and tried to find the best songs featuring rimshots on the drums but i could not it's not an easy thing to figure out wow i mean this sound it's not an easy thing to figure out it's not an easy thing to figure out it is all over this album but yeah i don't know where else to look for it i think honestly it'd be the same as a neo as a neo soul right it would just be a roots list yeah listen let's get into our rating system it's patented it's popular everybody loves it nobody skips it

[80:07]including that psycho that wants to just do the replacements august 9th 2023 can you imagine if he fast forwards every time we make fun of aaron i mean what does he like that he's like that he doesn't go for that he's he's very sincere he's getting more sincere in in our old age i wonder what he thinks about that neil young episode he must hate it just the one where i just just buried you uh all right listen this is 89 on

[80:32]the list uh 89th on the list best album of all time erica badu badu ism okay uh where do we think that stands if we think that deserves to be the 89th best album uh we say that that is a rolling well toned and we say that that is a rolling well toned and we say that that is a rolling well toned if we think that it should have been on the list before guys it got boned it's a rolling boned is the correct term and if we think that this album should be later okay there's some other albums that we think are more deserving of being the greatest album of all time which again is an

[81:03]insane thing to rank and list it makes absolutely no sense why can't we all just get along uh it would be a rolling groan guys i am just i think i'm just too tired i cannot think of a good even do the groan any more you can't even put your typical i can't even listen to it i can't even listen i mean listen to this when i do the i can't even click the right button i click the wrong one that's the oyster juice talking hey rearrange your whole keyboard i was recently listening to somebody and they go you know that

[81:36]my favorite wrestler of all time was the honky tonk man and i instantly just turned off my computer i was like i don't even care what else this guy has to say that's an insane take he was your favorite because if you really go google honky tonk man you i guarantee you that's you remember him be more muscular than he was i only remember him losing to the ultimate warrior in the summer slam in 88 that's it in like 90 seconds or less honky tonk man is zero muscular he had no muscles whatsoever he was one of the least he was like kind of like ted debiase where

[82:03]like he just had some hair like that's it they were like hey you got some great hair you should be a wrestler he's like okay i think debiase was bigger than you think i think he could whoop some ass i don't know he was rich though i do remember that again i'm gonna say it again the biggest bit of the rich wrestler so fucking funny to me i'm so rich like goddamn if i don't love body slamming people i gotta get out there and do it i could do whatever i want i could invest this in stocks no problem but you know what i love jumping off the top ropes with a flying elbow rob can we

[82:33]not go one week without talking about pro wrestling you insist on doing this week after week russell that podcast would be my million dollar dream wink cross promotion for my new popular podcast that actually gets 801 downloads a week suck it my wife no i don't like saying that at all that actually sounds dirtier for some reason wait what do you mean for some reason i'm back in a minivan parked

[83:00]out in st. olive's parked on st. olive's campus it's so weird disco ball all right so uh rolling bone or rolling grown matt what do you think rolling well-toned rolling bone rolling grown uh i i don't understand this album personally um i think it's to me it sounds like one long drawn out song you know i don't i can't hear erica badu on this album you know even i even tried listening with the big headphones on and

[83:30]stuff like i love the beat i love the the background music but like i i how many notes does she sing i don't know it's like she never gets above or below and you know so so i don't know i i i listened a couple times but i didn't probably listen long enough to get like the inner meaning of everything like rosie was talking about and so you know like i i've i've said it a number of times i don't listen to lyrics and that's probably my own fault for not understanding what this is and so on a whole it doesn't hit me where it counts and so i'm going to say it's uh

[84:06]rolling well rolling groaned should be higher on the list lower on the list which means it has a higher number exactly oh i forgot that bit you're right no you gave it a chance man i gotta say that's so brave of you to say so i just want you to have this valor you don't have to steal it anymore so feel free to dress like a naval officer uh anytime you want it's your right now so we appreciate it uh russell what do you think

[84:31]rolling well tone rolling bone or rolling groan i would echo some of matt's sentiments i i enjoyed listening to it but i did it it got a little one note for me listening to it at multiple times i stopped the album and went listen to something else during it but i i did enjoy it it was a fantastic group to kind of have on in the background and and listen to while you're making other stuff happen but for me uh it's just a slight rolling groan it's not something i'm going to go back to over and over and although i did really enjoy it and also i have

[85:03]to say matt for you listening to the album sir we salute you captain matt thank you for actually listening to the album that was true valor right that's true that's the that's the real valor we appreciate it or rosie what do you think rolling well toned rolling bone or rolling groan yeah you guys know rolling bone means that it should have been higher on the list we should have seen it already rolling groan is lower but is a higher number which means

[85:30]it's lower on the list almost like this uh podcast is we're digging deeper and deeper and maybe we're saying things that we can't take back it might get us fired from a job in a hilarious post-job interview where i'm gonna have to explain uh that my friend aaron doesn't actually like feet but it's just a joke the whole time i can't please record that when that happens i would really i just want to i want it to be recorded for posterity when that is i think you guys know where i'm gonna be with this one i love this album i knew it a little bit before but uh just this week i've listened to

[86:00]it so many times yes it is all one long groove uh yes it's not uh super powerful in terms of the vocals they're sort of they're not super powerful in terms of the vocals they're sort of they're not in the middle of the mix i get all that but i personally just love it i think it's interesting because it does sound it sounded like something new and different uh and it's it's probably to me it's the the best example of what was going on at the time um like russell i did pause once in a while to listen to something else but for me it was mostly other neo soul music so i listened to

[86:30]the weeks this week i listened to jill scott um i listened to michelle and diego cello um so i for me it's rolling well toned um but i could see why it wouldn't necessarily be the right thing for us i bet if you're listening to top 40 radio in 1997 you would hear music that is the polar opposite of this which is why part of what makes it so great right zoot suit riot sweetie we're definitely going to sign up for the lifetime membership at the swing dance lessons that's definitely never going to blow up in our face you know i tried i tried to think like if you

[87:02]have puff daddy doing all his stuff or whatever i would absolutely rather listen to this right and so the fact that it wasn't you know i mean that that's the thing that's the thing that's the thing that was like the other stuff that was going on and in 96 was tupac and biggie and all that stuff you know and so this definitely was 112 doing peaches and cream which like great song or like next doing too close like those are fine but i you know this is way too yeah what am i trying to listen to this peach crisps and cream what the fuck are you talking about aaron did you guys

[87:31]recognize either one of aaron's songs that he just pulled out of like peaches and cream yeah come on okay i'm gonna edit out what i said earlier um listen are we right were we right this week rob did we get it right unfortunately what is it for the 89th week in a row you are incorrect okay actually are we coming up on our 100th episode pretty soon we might have passed you had those bullshit no you had you had bullshit best ofs at the beginning we're not at 89 right we're at like 94 we have to be right no no okay we never mind okay and

[88:05]at a point all right so guys unfortunately for the 89th week in a row we're wrong as shit okay and as a teacher you can say that it's legal uh this is a rolling tantric initiation rob pause yeah this is our 100th episode what no no actually episode 100 went out last week that was the one we did last week oh we suck so bad not episodes but if you look at

[88:35]you look at the podcast if you take rob's best of five minute clips the last week was our 100th episode well congratulations guys on our 101st episode depressing as hell isn't it episode i mean this is so sad that we're doing this still after all this time i was just talking to my dad today i said i said yeah we're doing like our 89th episode today he goes it's amazing you could find three guys who all have an hour to spare every week and i was like yeah you haven't met

[89:01]these guys it's actually not amazing when you talk to them like it's amazing that they want to do more of these a week i think it's more amazing that you could have a real conversation with your dad after what he did in the back and scene of that car this is a rolling tantric initiation oh that's like tell us what was going on in that minivan this is a rolling tantric initiation i'm trying to get up these edit tantric initiation yeah listen if you want to have an hour and four minute long fuck fest this is a perfect album to play i mean you're not wrong i think this

[89:32]is another one of my dorm room albums where if you put this on in a dorm room you're going to the kind of people that are going to show up are the kind of people you want to show up to hang out in your dorm room okay well you're either making sweet love to a woman or fiercely jacking off trying not to breathe too hard because your roommate is a light sleeper either way listen fiercely or feverishly both at the same time because you get so hot why is it so hot are you furious if you jack i'm mad it's just you be nice to yourself it's just i just nutted so hard i'm

[90:03]furious i can't believe it i gotta go to bed i'm gonna go to bed i'm gonna go to bed i'm gonna go to the stomach cramp now i'm also so hot oh burning down sit down it's feverish and furious i can't believe it okay so we might be going a little late i'm just looking at the time okay it's the time where we just said feverish and furious okay the next album okay let's get serious here the next album guys is when somebody sat on neil young's face what what smothered man is what i said there

[90:35]it's neil young after the gold rush after the gold rush nice excited when you want to did you guys not laugh at my neil young smothered man joke instead of southern man i don't get it i gotta stop getting so high during these episodes beck did it better i know it's gonna be a while till we get to that replacements album

[91:05]so i did come up with a quote and i just figured i'd give it to you guys quick it's i'll be there for you when the rain starts to pour i'll be there for you like we've been there before i'll be there for you because you're there for me too that was so good that was such a good job you got a luxury to that it was so good oh my god russell that was funny

[91:30]if you want to hear from guys who chat and then they get off track oh i got oh you know what how many times you can do it oh this is like me in college beck did it better the replacement's a great band i i fucking love that movie with keanu reeves that was a great the replacements are the best dude he plays football and he also does neo soul neo soul i know kung fu