Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band and First Date Advice (1967)
[00:00]In 2020, four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums as decided by Rolling Stone magazine. This resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music, excoriated the order, and led us to making this podcast. We are far from experts and we promise to do almost no research. All opinions are our own unless you disagree. Please sit back and enjoy. Beck did it better. This is Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart Club Band. And we hope you will enjoy the show. When you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time, but you're just too lazy to look it up online. If you want to hear from guys who chat and then they get off track, I've got the perfect podcast for you, Jack. Beck did it better. Welcome to Beck did it better. This is the podcast where we're going through each of the Rolling Stones' top greatest 500 albums of all time.
[01:01]And we're going to talk about each one. And we're starting with number one, baby. Why not? The best right off the top. And this, I mean, really, this is an album where it defined rock and roll. It changed everything. But even more important than that, let's see how everybody's doing today. I've got three other guys with me. I've got Matt. I've got Aaron. I've got Russ. Aaron, rolling, how's it going? So this is the section called rolling, rolling, going. Rolling at home. Rolling, going. It's rolls off the tongue. No, this is rolling, going. No, it's rolling, going. How's it going? How are you doing? How are you doing? And do you have anything cool that you want to share? I am doing good. I am doing great. I'm doing well. I went to the ocean today. It was a nice day. We tried to get out. I live in Oakland, California. We try to get to the ocean lately when we can because we can get there in 30 minutes with no traffic. So we went to Golden Gate Park and my son rode his scooter out to the ocean. That was excellent. And then in the evening, I drove over to Montclair and picked up some Thai takeout.
[02:03]And life is about moments right now. And so the takeout spot was open for sidewalk cocktails. So I had an old-fashioned on the sidewalk while I waited for a cocktail and drove home listening to the soothing sounds of Jesse Chui Varela on 91.1 KCSM Jazz. So it was a good afternoon. The radio. I'm good. Beautiful radio. On the radio. So to summarize, you drove away from your family. You drank by yourself. And then after having a drink, you drove home. You heard it right. You heard it right. I tried Rob's. My vacation is the drive home. Trick. That's right. Yeah. You heard it right. I'm good. I don't have anything. I don't know if I have anything cool to recommend. Perhaps embarrassingly, I bought a kettlebell because I am susceptible to fitness YouTube. And so when I'm not talking to you guys or listening to music, I'm watching videos about kettlebells on YouTube. So that's my life right now. How do you have time? How do you have time for all these kettlebell videos when you're focused on your burpees?
[03:01]That's what I'm saying. The fads move quickly. I mean, I moved on from burpees to kettlebells. Is this like a Rolling Stones versus the Beatles things? Like, are there are there hardcore followings of kettlebell people versus hardcore followers of the burpee king? Yeah, 100 percent. If you go into a burpee workout with a bunch of kettlebells, you will get your ass kicked. And they will do it for a long time because they're in very good shape. They will beat the shit out of you for, you know, until they hit their anaerobic threshold for sure. I think there's room for both. But definitely the there's. There are specific burpee versus kettlebell devotees on the YouTube and any rabbit hole. Most rabbit holes lead you to Joe Rogan, I find. But one of the first one of the first kettlebell workouts I saw was based off of Joe Rogan had a guy on Russian guy. I forget the guy's name, but it was great. And the whole video was just him calling everybody comrades. Comrades. Yeah, you must get stronger. Do this now. You know, he just can't shock you, Matt, that I I watched that one after the last night.
[04:03]We recorded. It was great. It pumped you up. He called comrades. You must do this. It was great. But two more kettlebells afterwards. So it worked. Oh, my God. I'm a big fan of kettlebells because you can sit on the couch and use a kettlebell at the same time. It's possible. You can't do that with burpees. Matt, how are you doing? What's how's it rolling going? Oh, oh, my God. That's such a good name. I came up with rolls off the tongue. Yeah. Everybody. I remember that one. The you know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think I think it's getting to me. I mean, I'm I'm spending more time in my garden, which I've never done. I'm I'm trying to grow tomatoes. I've taken like four years to figure out how to grow tomatoes. And I finally have gotten them big enough where now I don't have the right gear. So I'm building like trellises and things like that. So I'm just I'm turning sixty eight gone from thirty nine to sixty eight in about two months here. So. But it's appropriate for this album when I'm sixty four. It's appropriate. Yeah. Oh, I blew it. I blew it. I blew it. I blew it. I blew it. I blew it. I blew it. I blew it. I blew it. I blew it. I blew it. I blew it. It's going. It's going, Rob.
[05:00]I I'm still trying to navigate the world of the online dating perspective. And last time you guys gave me some feedback on maybe how I should respond to this. Excellent. Feedback. Excellent. Yes. And so this was a lady. If you recall, she asked me, she said, you look like a fancy man. She didn't right now. Just her name. Yeah. Just like. You didn't write it. You didn't write her name. That's fair. But she gave me this. She gave me this. He gave me this. It was like, Why don't you, maybe when you drag yourself in like and don't you know what it is? are you fancy and i had no idea how to respond to this so i asked you guys i came to these very brilliant gentlemen here and i i decided to go with rob's advice and he said i should respond with just an eggplant emoji and so i did and she responded so it worked at first and she said well that's a fancy eggplant a fancy gentleman you must be and so then i didn't really know how to respond so i took rob's advice a little further because he he i i kind of combined it and i decided to kind of combine that with a fancy mustard emoji so i responded with a mustard emoji
[06:00]and then i asked her what is the craziest thing she's ever done with gray poupon and at this point she immediately deleted me i got reported to the bumble police my account got deactivated for a while so i'm not gonna listen to your guys advice anymore but i thought i maybe could ask for your guys advice right now for another dating thing if that's for a shizzle i'll tell you what i'm ready for that i'm in for that if you you if she was just a yellow mustard fan fucker you don't need her in your life it's too plain yeah all you're getting is missionary that's it whoa i like that then we need to do a study we need to do a study on that so i was thinking i was wondering if i could get your advice on something yeah let's take him to the corner advice corner is where russell sits in the corner and we yell advice at him okay it's not
[07:02]us in the corner with russell giving us advice go ahead russell all right i'm gonna go sit in the corner now and stare at you guys and hold my little blanket here as you yell at me yeah and face the corner too don't look at us but the big where i really need advice is in this kind of changing world with the pandemic there's not a lot of people out there that are going to be you can't go out a lot of things are closed so i'm wondering i got i was going back and forth messaging with this woman a few days ago and and i mentioned oh maybe we could meet at a park grab a drink or go find a patio that's open at a bar and grab a drink and she said what if we go for a walk and i was just thrown by this because a walk seems like an okay activity for someone you've been seeing for a while but that does not sound like a good first date so i'm curious how would you guys handle a first date walk or what other activities would you propose given that bars and restaurants and everything are closed right now i mean it's got to be where the walk's at though right i mean if you're gonna go like some nature center or something i mean i don't know that seems kind
[08:04]of boring but if you're gonna like hey let's go walk around this neighborhood and maybe we'll get a drink here drink there i don't know you know it seems like she was going for the nature center kind of walk so i don't know i think she's on to something i like the i like the walk idea but maybe you just maybe you go next to the next level and see if she's ready like hey let's find a steep hill and roll down it like eight-year-olds kind of thing like let's just go let's see who can roll down the hill the most times and who gets the most bloodied on the way down i picture russell showing up for this walk and he pops the trunk and it's just full of kettlebells and he's like i like the idea i think it's good i mean i went on a number of walks with my lady uh 14 years ago when we were recording so i i'm not maybe not the right one but i'm not the right one to speak but i think i think a walk's a great idea yeah but russell here's the problem right is that if you're anything like me even walking up some stairs all the sweating i have to not
[09:00]yeah i have to not breathe very hard and i have to make it seem like i'm not out of breath to the people around me i'd be worried on a walk on a date the whole time you're like and she's like how are you doing like i'm good i'm good well i'm thank you i'm doing great how are you i mean maybe you you probably are more in shape than i am i know you have that elliptical machine that you've been rocking out on but that that would just make me really nervous although i i gotta say right now i think it is one of the best options i i can't think of anything else off the top of my head because as soon as you try to go into a restaurant you're gonna see all the masks and you're gonna start talking about covid and that to me is the thing you should be avoiding on a date right get out there in nature unless it's like we're all gonna die from covid we should sleep together tonight that's another i mean you can go with maybe that's that's an option too and if if if i'm gonna pick up a virus from an online date it's got to be something better than the covid 19 correct yes yes you need to put that on your bumble right now that's it that's
[10:02]your intro maybe what i'll do rob is i'll have an intense workout right before the date and then i'll show up all sweaty and everything and i'll blame it on the kettlebells and then when i'm walking around she'll have no idea that it's really just me being completely out of shape that's that's a great idea or if there's a sprinkler you kind of walk through and go oh no i got wet sometimes i do that when i piss my pants piss my pants a little bit by accident i'll go and wash my hands and then rub it on my pants and i'm like oh the sink got me wet but really i'm like fucking i'm fucking einstein over here i think i mean i think sincerely my best advice is you you take take her up on the walk but you propose a walk that is within you know walking distance of a place where you could get a drink on the patio if it's going well or a place where you could like dive into the bushes and get away if it's not definitely not around like a하고id machine mile lake though where you get halfway through and then you have to walk back the other three miles right right you've got to plan a good good loop with escape routes and stop off places the problem
[11:03]with the lake too is you're going to have a lot of guys who are hot without their shirts on running around that's not what you need you need to be in a place where you're the focus of attention russell it's all about lots of chicks running around too though so maybe i don't know and you could yeah and you could point out and say like i respect these women and i think that's a good i do that a lot because nobody respects women like somebody who says i respect women that definitely is not a red flag well i'm glad i came and sat in the corner for this advice you guys gave me i really appreciate russell's advice corner always out here to put you in the corner get it ready that's it time's up get out of the corner that was russell's advice corner oh yeah all right so i think i have to make a sting that gets russell out of the corner so we know when that corner is over so now we're no longer giving advice to russell but i will say russell have you ever done like a driving range date would that be fun or is that a disaster
[12:01]well he's out of the corner why would you why would you suggest a date after the corner get him back in get him back in all right get get get get to the corner it's time for russell's advice corner oh yeah i just i don't care anymore actually uh no taking a date to a driving range i think have you guys ever been to top golf yes yes no top golf is great it's for anyone that hasn't done it it's a really fancy driving range with multiple levels and then there's food there's drinks there's a full bar they've got all these uh all the balls are chips so there's different games that depend on where the ball goes out there so even if you're not a good golfer it can be fun but i've never done that on a date but can i tell you guys about one of my biggest dating disasters ever a different dating disaster i'm glad we're back in the corner i'll tell you what i don't know if i have time for this let me see ah yes i will listen to this until my funeral and i will be happy so last winter i went out with this woman and we went out once and then we were conversing
[13:05]texting back and forth the second time we were going to go out again and she invited me to go to this haunted haunted house like a christmas haunted house at one of the malls in the minneapolis area and i was like i don't know this seems kind of weird but eventually we went and it was it was written up in the newspaper it was supposed to be like very scary kind of nasty uh quite the scary kind of thing and we get there we go in and we wait in line for about an hour and a half and there's these actors who are coming up like dragging chains and stuff by you the whole time where you're waiting in line and the whole time i'm just thinking this is not a good idea and we walk into the haunted house and it's just the two of us kind of walking through and it's supposed to be like a 20 minute thing and the second room we go into one of the the creatures or the monsters if you will walks up behind us behind us and sneezes on us and essentially throws paint all over our backs like literally paint so we ended up walking through this haunted house with like some sort
[14:05]of slime on us and it ended up washing out but we got done with it and we kind of looked at each other and i think we realized there's no going forward from here oh no so don't go to a christmas halloween horror show that's the kind of thing that would never happen anymore right like no one would do something like that now like that's not a funny joke anymore i mean yeah haunted houses are dead throw liquids on them all right we're getting out of the corner now the corner god i love being in there i do love being in here though that's it time's up get out of the corner that was russell's advice corner oh yeah yeah i'm gonna make a new drop and by the way when i record those drops around my family they think i'm so cool when i'm just sitting there talking to the microphone going get get get in the corner all right so uh
[15:00]by the way i'm doing fine nothing to recommend uh all right so how are you doing we messed up real quick what's your history with the beatles and this album in particular i'll start real quick uh my mom i i was not you know i i listened to a ton of oldies radio when i was younger it was like the main radio station i listened to so my my thing with the beatles is pretty much if it was on that one album those are the songs i liked of the beatles so it's like they're right down the middle super poppy hits i was really familiar with those i was a big fan of those my mom bought me sergeant pepper's lonely heart club band and said listen everyone needs to own the cd which in retrospect is like a really cool mom thing to do i then heard from somebody that you can either be a beatles fan or a rolling stones fan and think they're the greatest band and you can't be both so as i've talked about before i am very influenced by peer pressure even just one person saying that like it's my brain is messed up and so i was like well i like the rolling stones better so i'm not a beatles fan so i just didn't listen to the album very much and even in the future when i would hear
[16:01]poppy songs i'd be like what the fuck these guys are way out there it's kind of messing with my brain so not a huge beatles fan uh but obviously in listening to these this list i've listened to a lot of beatles and i've kind of grown to appreciate them certainly more than i did before uh man how about you what's your history with the beatles in this album in particular uh beatles you know i uh i think the last one we talked about i the white album is one of my top four albums of all time um i found that one because i think everybody's knows who the you know i want to hold your hand beatles and poppy love bubblegum stuff and uh you know i i didn't like that stuff so much but then when i heard helter skelter i was like who in the heck is this you know so that kind of opened me up to the beetle world um i remember my mom having rubber soul on vinyl so listening to that and then you know kind of coming around later uh to sergeant pepper and really liking it i mean i think it's it's completely
[17:01]different um each song is different it flows wonderfully for an album i don't think there's too many dead there's not too many dead songs there where you're just like they're just mailing it in here construction the construction of the album is is perfect it's it's pitch perfect you know it starts out great i mean if you listen to it on vinyl there's no uh there's no pauses between songs it flows from one song to the next and then i think it ends uh better than any album that we've come across on vinyl this list so far and anything that i've ever heard it's got just a phenomenal exit song the last song in the on the album so you know not not not too i didn't have a huge geek factor with the with the beatles uh listen to a lot of it um and know a lot of the songs a lot of the history but um you know the came to this one a little later and absolutely think it deserves to be on the number one spot and that's part of the trouble with doing the podcast on this album right is that there's so much stuff the beatles you you can spend your whole life
[18:01]being obsessed with the beatles and never run out of material to go through when i was doing my research for this which is where i go to wikipedia and i type in beatles question mark and then i just see what comes up how did you spell the question mark on wikipedia i grab i think you've been wasting keystrokes for a few years now oh no when you go on wikipedia for this album it's easily 10 times longer than almost any other album that i've looked at for wikipedia and every single song it is the most boring fucking shit to read so for this one i really didn't even look at like song to song research on the song because there's so many people talking about so every little nuance and oh this composer inspired this and this is how he got inspired for this and i'm like i don't care about that stuff if somebody wanted to find that out they could find that out a million other sources i think this podcast especially we just want to say what we think about it and we're not qualified in the least but it is i think everything matt said is absolutely spot on it just radio stations used to play this album all the way through in one go and imagine doing that now with any album
[19:01]today that's that's totally cool yeah it's kind of like the the head of spotify just came out the other day and said bands can no longer just put out music every one to three years you know it's the death of an album right like you're not going to have any more albums you're going to have bands putting out singles every three months because they're they're trying to stay relevant you know they can't they can't tour right now you can't tour so that's where they make their money right so that's also that whole thing is kind of yeah but then they did that in the 60s 50s 40s 50s 60s right it's all singles and then this album kind of changed that right because the beatles said we're not touring we're not doing we want to want to make an album yeah because you can sell albums right i mean they didn't have to tour to make money which i think is why i'm spoiler alert i don't think they're the greatest band in the world but we're going to get to that so it's kind of weird right because now we're back to like i want to hold your hand beatles where it's like single after single tiktok tiktok's ruining the world maybe tiktok we're going to swing back around as there's going to be a sergeant pepper in our future yeah i think we'll get more albums because people can't tour they're going to have to figure out another
[20:01]music and they're going to figure out a way to make more immersive experiences it's going to have to involve like video you know but uh they're going to have to figure out a way to to monetize what they're doing fans are because spotify is making money but artists are not but that's a different story for a different time russ what's your history with the beatles and with this album in particular i don't really have any meaningful history with the beatles or specifically beatles albums the only album or cd of the beatles that i've ever owned was one which i think is the greatest hits album and i actually bought that first time i bought the first album and i bought it for my mom for christmas one year and i saw down the road she never opened it it was still sitting in her living room god and so eventually so eventually i i took it from her and she's been getting gift cards ever since so she learned her lesson about that but that truly that hurt my hurt my heart russell deep down anyways i could probably list you about 20 beatles hits the songs that everyone knows but i could never tell you what album they were on and until we started this
[21:02]book i didn't really fully understand how the beatles had kind of adapted from that boy band where every single song was about dating some girl to later on in their career where their music kind of takes that psychedelic edge if you will but ultimately i think i think it's fair that they're commonly referred to as the greatest band ever and i'll be interested to hear why aaron thinks that maybe they're not but to me in general i think they're clearly thought of as the greatest band ever by uh mainstream society and mainstream music fans and i think rob one thing you mentioned thing you mentioned is i you kind of always hear this thing about you either have to be an advocate for the beatles or the rolling stones or led zeppelin is the greatest rock band ever but it's kind of like jordan and lebron why why do you have to choose one as the greatest can't they all kind of just shine in their own right but that's kind of my history with the beatles and where i'm coming from with this album lebron i like it yeah lebron no you guys aren't serious yeah jordan please we cannot i mean there's no talent yeah we can't go to guys this will be our patreon we start a
[22:04]patreon we make people play pay to hear us talk about basketball it'll be like this will be like well i took five minutes and looked it up on wikipedia and here's what it says about lebron aaron what's your history with the beatles my history with the beatles uh starts with my mom and uh my mom owned uh sergeant pepper on vinyl so hold on who's that who was that on that album my mom owns sergeant pepper on vinyl it's it's it's it's time for one-on-one with aaron's mom oh yeah i think first of all i knew i was gonna do it before you guys teed me up a hundred times but i i i need to stop saying oh yeah at the end of these things but i can't help it no you don't know maybe maybe aaron's mom is the greatest one-on-one player of all time oh my god well she was gonna listen to this uh episode i sent her uh some test
[23:01]pressing of our episodes and i haven't heard back so i don't know what's going on there yeah my mom owned this on vinyl um although i do now remember that it was pretty warped on vinyl so i i um fairly quickly switched to listening to it on cd but um i went through a very heavy beatles dork phase from ages about 13 to 18 i was always a white album guy because it was to me it was like a little bit weirder and growing up in the middle of iowa i felt like it was really important to try to be different so i i picked the most uh different beatles album to be my favorite but i did own sergeant pepper on cd and the memories i have of the beatles were um on the way home from church every sunday at 11 a.m on kioa radio in des moines iowa they would play the beatles brunch so we'd be on our way home from church to go get some pie at montel's and we'd be hearing uh some beatles stuff so they would play live cuts they would play you know original tapes that never made it to the album masters that kind of stuff so i had a big beatles
[24:00]phase my thoughts on this are um so i don't find the album all that psychedelic necessarily with the exception of a few tracks uh to me the album is is a really a um commentary about the working class in england at the time and john and paul's grappling with the fact that that's kind of where they came from but um they were sort of rejecting it in a way and i think we'll talk about that when we talk about the lyrics but the reason i don't think the beatles are the best band of all time is because i don't think they play their instruments very well um with the possible exception of george on guitar i think ringo's a shit drummer uh paul's pretty okay at the base and so it's hard for me to say anyone's the greatest band of all time if you don't have anyone who is in like the top 100 on their own instrument uh within the band if i think about great bands i think about like coltrane's quartet or porgatine the mgs or um maybe parliament pearl jam i would think of pearls yeah but
[25:00]so matt that does that does play into my next uh uh hypothesis which is that i don't think the beatles played live together enough to become a cohesive unit as a band they they stopped playing live in what 64 and i don't think they ever really developed that but i will say as an art collective they made great albums and the the whole collective which includes not just john paul george ringo but everyone who contributed to this album george martin jeff hemrick uh outside great songs and a great album and i love this album and i i wanted to reject it because i went through a big beatles phase and i wanted to say like well i was dumb as a kid but it's actually great so that's uh so the same guy that did game of thrones did this album that's george you'd hear more about that when you hear so much about game of thrones right i didn't see it on wikipedia at all aaron you were referencing kind of all these other musicians that they brought in
[26:01]i was kind of curious this kind of goes to this album and other albums too but one thing i noticed here is when i listened to this the first time i was caught off guard by a lot of the music but as i listened to it over and over i started to gain a greater appreciation for it and part of that was was because i started reading about it and you kind of see everything that goes into it so i'm kind of curious how do you guys let research impact how you view these albums do you think that's important or do you just want to listen to it and kind of come up with your own conclusions how does research and information that's out there impact your impression let me go first i i am again totally influenced by any sort of peer pressure when i say peer pressure it could be a sentence i read on the internet it could be something i hear somebody say in the grocery store it is literally anything i let influence me more than anything so when i read the for example the wikipedia says revolver is thought to be now the beatles most complete album instead of this one i'm like yeah okay revolvers better
[27:01]like it literally takes that little for me to do that because i i think i'm too lazy to make my own decisions but i have to say getting ready for this it's kind of fun to do the research and then for example listening to pet sounds after this you hear that the beatles were really influenced by pet sounds and you can definitely hear that that kind of like how the beatles took pet sounds and took it just a step further to make sergeant pepper i i i really enjoy doing the research on the album before i listen to it and listening to each song i think i get more out of it even if i'm really seeing other people's uh opinions this is maybe a take for the next album but i think the beatles got the wrong one i think the beatles got the wrong one message from pet sounds and they took the worst parts of pet sounds and tried to make something out of it but that's a different take matt your thoughts about research well i you know again i think we talked about it earlier that the a different podcast that the the list itself is just how do you come up with this list to begin with so you know some some sort of album in the 60s you know was it three years before um kind of when it would have been really popular so is
[28:05]it a little bit more of a legendary so will um you know 30 years from now will people look at nirvana's um album and say hey you know well they came out with that 91 i mean cripes it's not that great of an album you know well they know that the impact that that had moving from hair metal to grunge and you know that kind of effect so i do a lot of the research just to see kind of the timing of where it's at and maybe who's on it um you know because i think that really plays into it so you know you kind of look at who who came before this album and i think that's a really i mean and you realize that hey it was all bubble gum um trying to hook up with chicks you know that kind of a thing before kind of bob dylan and some of those guys kind of came in and started talking about real life things and so i don't know i i like to put it in perspective that way it's kind of like pre pre beatles they were taking girls to the bar or taking them to a bowling alley post sergeant pepper is like taking women on a walk and really getting to know who they are
[29:03]showing how much you respect them really wanted to know up the choices for what you can do with a woman on a first date exactly on uh i can't on research the research i did on this album as a kid i've forgotten a lot of it but i read you know books about the beatles as a kid so uh for me the research part of it you know knowing that they did all that they did to get the most they could out of four track recording makes me think it's greater right because i know what went into it but i for me the the best modern parallel is when i was really into hip-hop i thought about jay-z versus naz and every hip-hop message board would talk about how like well jay-z's better because he never writes down his lyrics he does everything off the top of the dome and if you didn't know that you'd make your own choices about who you like better and you'd probably still settle on jay-z but at the time i was a naz fan and i was like well i don't i don't care what made it happen once i listen to it i just care how it sounds so there's an argument to me to be made for both just listening and see what you think and look into it and understand
[30:04]what went into the do you think that all the all the documentaries and all the research kind of romanticizes some of what goes into this though like do you think if there were documentaries about some meaningless beck album would would he be viewed differently or would artists be viewed differently if there was all this kind of research and all this these movies and documentaries about other art other artists or not i bet beck he all he needed was two turntables here the beatles went to this great lengths i don't know i mean it is might have did it crazy though because the beatles first album to put it in perspective the first album came out in 63 their final album let it be was 1970 that's only seven years i mean you you think about these beatles as being just huge band for so long it's only seven years that's not that long beck has been putting out albums more than seven years i guarantee it i just think i think to think about the beatles i do think it's really important that you look at where it is and it is interesting when you look at the rolling stone top 500 list
[31:03]the top five albums here are the years 67 66 66 65 65 it literally is the top five albums have a three-year span between all the different albums i didn't know space i didn't know space hog recorded in the meantime in 1965 i mean that that whole like uh man that now when you say the top five like that that's that's impossible like when you think of the entirety of of pop music's history there's no it's impossible that the top but it's albums right it's not songs it's it's yeah but it's just there's no way there's no way that the top five albums came within three years i mean you're saying everything after 1967 got got worse everything after 1960 well or or it was influenced yeah or it was influenced by what came there because there was it was all singles before this right rosie i mean everything was to be fair you know be fair to top three of the top five bands are the beatles so it's you know that's kind of part of
[32:01]it too is it just because they were first though like we don't continue to say george mikan is the greatest basketball player ever he's the greatest basketball player ever he's the greatest basketball even though he was the first one to be the first great right why why do we why do we treat athletes different and not give the first athlete ever like whoever invented the forward pass is not considered a greater quarterback than tom brady so why don't we why don't we bring that attitude because shaquille and shaquille o'neal would beat george mikan one-on-one every day of the week and twice on sunday from now on i mean everything's getting better right it's hard for music to say that you know um 10 by pearl jam is better than you know anything else that's going to happen anything here you know anything that came from kind of this early late 60s early 70s i mean was it influenced or is it better you know prince came along and kind of changed how everything was done you know did he improve on what was here or did he come up with a whole new sound you know and so it's kind of like the you know this is the album so it's not the song's album so that's where we
[33:01]kind of got to keep coming back to the list and how it's made and what the actual name of the list is the best album of all time and i think too the other thing is we still listen to the beatles we still listen to the beach boys we're not watching a fucking george mikan game of basketball being like oh wow look at those crisp chest passes like nobody's gonna take those in you just hear about it i feel like my my afternoon of watching 1950s lakers games was a complete waste so thanks for nothing i mean he had this amazing granny shot that there's no way that lebron could have pulled off right now that's your third that's a third date russell for sure the number that you gotta wait until number three be like i have a bunch of 1950s lakers games on on dvr that we can watch together uh and i don't know why i put that voice on you russell i apologize i like that i like that yeah yeah i don't like the nerd voice russell at all that's the third voice russell i i love it it's also but i we've so we've talked about the beatles are hugely influential and guess what no shit but it's interesting if you look at the grammys the grammy started in 1959 first grammy
[34:04]winner the music from peter gunn second grammy winner sinatra third grammy winner peter gunn won a great hold up that's britain right not only the first grammy so therefore the best one uh 1961 the grammy winner was bob newhart for his comedy newhart what did he just do a lyrical styling of this is my brother daryl and this is my other brother daryl or how does bob newhart win win any sort of award yeah no his his album was actually called uh my balls are so hairy so i don't know it seems a little risque for the time but uh i like that uh rob is sharing a screen and one of the other nominees from that year was an album called nice and easy from frank sinatra which is great because r&b groups are still naming albums nice and easy in the year 2020 like that's timeless you can just call frank sinatra's frank sinatra is all over this uh then we have judy garland we have uh barbara streisand we have some uh stan getz and uh gilberto which is uh which is bossa nova from brazil
[35:05]and all of a sudden in 68 the beatles win with sergeant pepper lonely heart i don't want to be like woke white dude but come on like every single artist on this list is white from every year like there's no wait a minute from any of this and they were harry belafonte took harry belafonte took it is glenn is glenn campbell you know the beatles stole from the beginning is that a white guy the grammys are not a good i mean to say to say the beatles you know revolutionary stuff that's fine but there'd be no beatles without chuck berry or artists that can't even name that they stole from you know in the early 60s so i just it can't go unmentioned for this entire episode that the beatles stole their style from somebody else and then had made enough money that somebody would pay him to go sit in a studio and smoke weed and aaron if you think the grammys are wrong you're wrong okay again you know frank sinatra won all those but you know
[36:00]is that uh right man i should i should not have overlooked harry belafonte i apologize yeah but who is uh who is sinatra's guy quincy jones quincy jones quincy jones you know i mean he basically made frank sinatra in the 60s i'm not going to say frank didn't do the work but you know his uh stylings well we know frank was a made man but yes i do think that musically uh quinty and count basie had had a big big rob what year was this album what year did it win the grammy 68 it won best album in 60 so matt or aaron do you guys have a feel for why would the earlier beatles albums not have won any sort of grammy or award it seems kind of crazy because they were the the biggest band in the world pretty much right off the bat right not albums they're not albums they're all singles i guess well rubber soul and revolver probably were but i mean looking at this list it just looks like nothing from but even that i mean like like this is much more commercialized than like even revolve like revolver like musically is a great a great album right this just looks like this is
[37:00]they are on there pretty they were nominated in 66 for help uh along with the sound of music and oh and help help had a movie and revolver grammy's were some kind of promotional revolver was also nominated in 67 and that lost to frank sinatra and barbara strie stands on there again along with they nominated with herb alpert and the tijuana brass i mean this just shows like the total shift in music that happened after the sergeant pepper it's it's crazy because pretty soon you have 77 you have stevie wonder you have uh paul simon and 76 you have 78 you have rumors it's all of a sudden you have these rock albums that can be regarded as because they're not great but they're started as high art and i think that's important to realize like this is what sergeant pepper did it took all of these things and made it so people you could actually appreciate it and not just say oh yeah frank sinatra he's a good singer like it's crazy i'm kind of confused though matt you said that those earlier ones aren't albums but so if i'm listening to him chronologically you have please please me with the beatles a hard day's night beatles for sale are those not albums or
[38:03]why are those different no they're like commercialized them later rosie maybe you can tell me if i'm saying this wrong but like they they put them together as an album later to sell it as an album but they were like a track you know side a side b kind of thing like lps by then could they literally not make records long enough i don't know when lps started but yeah i don't think that the whole concept of like paying a band to go sit in a studio and make an album i think it came you know with stones and the beatles because otherwise bands weren't making money if they weren't out on the road right and you weren't getting a little more a little more context too in 1967 there was one band that had the top that had three top albums and these were for the they had one for the first five weeks of 67 it had one for the next 10 weeks of 67 and this band also had the top album for the last five weeks of 67 and that band was the band that i thought growing up was better than the beatles the monkeys okay
[39:04]the tv show yeah yes the beatles with the tv show i gotta be honest i remember watching that show on nickelodeon and i didn't even know they were real band i thought it was some sort of fugazi uh brady bunch type band i didn't even know they were real it they they were very real and they had top album after top album i think you're correct russell i don't i don't know i think the tv show came first right we're gonna have to do a monkey's podcast just that's our patreon monkeys podcast and more data advice from russell so that's all anybody wants to hear about the monkeys did it better but i think it's important to talk about the context for the beatles right this is after revolver the revolver the album before this is really where they said we want to make songs that we can't tour with we hate touring george harrison wanted to quit the band he promised they weren't going to tour anymore so he came back and all of a sudden they were they were they got out there and they were listening to these weird kind of more experimental
[40:00]music they heard pet sounds they heard frank zappa and the mothers of invention they were influenced by that and they said listen we can make an album that's way out there but is still musical which i gotta be i gotta say i'm still impressed by i hear so many other albums where it's they're trying to go with something like pink floyd is a great example the wall they're trying to do something trying to tell a story the problem is two-thirds of that story sucks i hate listening to it i don't want to hear about kids in a cafeteria it just is no good whereas the beatles like okay so this is a band that is a fake band that the beatles are making up yet every song is a banger on this album it's absolutely ridiculous so let's get into the album uh and first of all i think the concept of the fake band kind of falls apart really after with a little help from my friends but that's okay yeah i'm willing to forgive well yeah i well and the thing was i think it's paul who had this idea and like george harrison said he wanted nothing to do with this album he was thinking about going back to india he wanted to go back to india he felt like he was just like going backwards doing this john lennon had said that
[41:03]this idea sucks nobody likes it but they were basically given infinite amount of recording time the record the studios open up every day at 7 p.m for them to go in and fuck around and do whatever they want and all of a sudden you realize like oh these are three to four legitimate musical geniuses given as much as they want and you have people who are coming up with these new ways to record new ways to come up with things revolutionizes music forever and more importantly gives us an excuse to talk to each other with this podcast so let's get into the album most importantly that's the most important thing to come out of the beatles is us talking about this is yeah exactly all right so the of everything the beatles did this podcast the first track on the album is called sergeant pepper's lonely heart club band i nailed i nailed it that time i was reading i was reading it so that helped i'm gonna fast forward a little bit and the orchestra
[42:01]tuning up is nice it's the perfect start to an album right like i love hearing this start and then hearing them just yell at me about how they want me to sing along i'm like fuck yeah i'll sing along with you this would be kind of mind-blowing super blah super blah isn't it like on every song though that's what i'm saying i mean i mean hot take hot take the opening is really unique and it's really cool for me it doesn't strike me as kind of the hit at the beginning of a lot of albums that you'll hear like if once we get down the road you'll hear welcome to the jungle or you're going to hear other songs that start off like the big or in the usa do you guys kind of put this type of opener in that category or is it kind of in a separate category of unique openings or how do you look at that i i i this is the song i sing to myself more than any other song off this album i love that idea of like just him
[43:04]screaming at you like wow here we go this is a fucking album and you're gonna listen to it and yeah and you're just like okay sure why not i mean i can't i can't personally categorize any of the tunes on this album it's just like it's uncategorized i i love this i and then to go into this one i mean it flows with a little help for my friends the transition is great i love how they go right into the transition the one thing i thought of when i heard this song is i really enjoyed the song but it made me kind of think of what is even the purpose of our podcast right and what brought this podcast together and to me that's friendship right and so i started thinking no doubt yeah i want to hear it i want to hear it i want to hear it i want to hear it i want to hear it about you dating but yeah i would say friendship is number two for sure yeah i figure if i tell a
[44:01]few more of those stories this friend these friendships may be over unless you guys start giving me some better advice here my god i just i want to hear another story right now i want to get back in the corner oh yeah but anyways i was listening to this and i started wondering what do you guys think is the greatest song ever about friendship all right the first one first option is by tlc what about your friends what do you think any anyone have any any meaningful memories of this song i have never fucking heard this song in my life i've like junior high uh yeah junior high stag dances t-boss t-boss might have gone to des moines roosevelt high school for like a year and so people in iowa would be like oh yeah we claim t-boss but i don't really think she when i think of tlc i definitely think iowa that's like lizzo from minneapolis our middle school when we went to middle school we had red days and green days and
[45:04]and our whole school was convinced that green day the band had gone to our school and had named their band after the fact that monday wednesdays and fridays were called green day that's super weird because green day is from berkeley where they were there actually in fact the second song about friendship let's see if you guys remember this one how about dion warwick that's what friends are for uh uh what is it what is this what is this instrument singing yeah harmonica was that harmonica stevie wonder on ironica i'm pretty sure oh it's just beautiful through good times i fucking love dion warwick i gotta say oh dion sounds good i think she's a cousin of whitney houston i think the next one we definitely need to discuss this one matt brought it up but we have to discuss i'll be there for you by the rembrandts oh this says this has 1994 written all over it
[46:01]right yeah every song from 1994 early 95 clap it clap it clap it here we go yep there you go guys good luck should we start a band is that was that what i'm hearing here i would love it we could do enough podcasts where we could shoot our own kind of rip-off version of the intro for the friends tv show that would be fantastic if i had to fall in a fountain at my age i would hurt myself so badly like just the thought of it like i think we could do it in vegas at bellagio listen you're gonna have to edit this out but god's honest truth we were on the beach today flying a kite and my son let the kite go and i was sitting down at the time and i jumped up to sprint after the kite and i i hope to god no one saw me trying to sprint after this kite it's the most embarrassing thing i've ever seen like yeah that's gonna get cut yeah that's really gonna get cut it was terrible i don't want it let's keep going let's keep moving i remember you running the bases in softball when we were in college i don't think you had that part of
[47:02]fall off i'm sure it's gotten worse i promise it's gotten worse that song reminds me of how amazing that it was that came right at the age where all of a sudden you could just show nipples on tv if they were under shirts yeah i was like oh wait what it like blew my mind i was like this is the greatest show of all time and you watch it now and it's like super like homophobic and super like fat phobic and and all this stuff but at the same time i'm like oh my god look at this they're just right there let's keep going with the with the list the next option is i think the only option on this list of friendship songs where we're going to cover it on a top 500 album intro you're my best friend when you hear those first chords i think i think the rembrandts are in the top 20 i'm pretty sure i was gonna say they're not in the top 500 501 i believe do they publish honorable mentions no that's so good man when like those first chords and then
[48:01]that big-ass drum kicks in now we're getting into kind of the metal contenders here the top three the next one is randy newman you've got a friend in me oh my god start the waterworks yeah i'll say it again all these movies remind me of how you get old and die and the kids are like the toys talk and i'm like everybody gets old and dies and they're like thanks thanks rob you're so positive by the way randy newman the fact that his voice that he could get into singing is like just shows you can do whatever you want nobody can just go for it well as long as you can write the song so you gotta be able to write the songs i could write that isn't that the theory we took when we started this podcast rob anyone can do anything you don't need any talent you don't need anything interesting to say you certainly don't need any expertise just no all you need is a wife on your microphone a wife who prefers to go to bed by herself in a car that you can sit out in and
[49:01]yell at your friends about the beatles where you make the wild statement that the beatles sergeant pepper is pretty good rob like i think that's a good thing to do i think that's a good thing to do i think that's a good thing to do i think that's a good thing to do i think that's a good thing to do our listeners need to know that while some of us record in an office or a living room you record in your car can you explain why you have to record in your car because i'm at the cabin right now with my whole family around and when i'm talking i talk so loudly that i would wake up or keep up anyone and the fact that they would only hear one side of this podcast of me just going yep yep uh-huh oh yeah on tv like i would immediately be kicked out of the family forever i don't need that so i'm in the car and i don't know what i'm going to do in new york like just go down in the subway the subway has wi-fi i could go do it down there that'd be kind of fun acoustics might be nice yeah and maybe we get some nice background maybe like there's a good chance you could go down there someone would be playing something from sergeant yeah and there's not a zero percent chance that i'll get stabbed so i think that'd be fun too to hear me get stabbed on the podcast more excitement yeah it's never zero it's never
[50:02]zero speaking of nice acoustics the next one the second second on the list is bill withers lean on me oh rest in peace i hate this bill withers song he's got so many better songs what are you talking about rob it's true you can't hate this song i do guess what i do hot take heard oh no oh yeah i would never ever sit and listen to this song oh morgan freeman the movie that morgan freeman did lean on me i don't know what it was it was awesome better songs but this song I mean this is the tears every time oh no rob oh and if you could and anybody can play this on piano at least the beginning like you could figure out this easily on the piano because it's about the only song that I know on the piano you'll be singing this song when you're leaning on us when you've had one too many Mike's hard lemonades in Las Vegas next January or if I I will say if I buy you some chicken I will say lean meat on me I'm not gonna edit that out that was too good the
[51:02]final the final option is actually a pretty interesting one because it's really a question of who did it better it's Joe Cocker with a little help from my friends like get into singing like most people like they're in choirs or something right like Joe Joe Cocker can't be in a choir he's too ugly to do anything else it's the only way he can listen to this it's so good it's good yeah it's great it's way better than guys guys I'm gonna say it again look oh no wait a minute look at this album cover look at the album cover for with all of my friends it's like somebody played a joke on Joe Cocker they're like this is the picture of you we can possibly find three chins oh it's just it's awful it looks like he's like I don't know what like somebody looks like your hair from high school I mean oh yeah it does it does you know it does like I mean you got to give
[52:02]props to the Beatles because uh you know a great song is a great song you know in in any sort of context and so the fact that it still sounds so good with Joe Cocker means it's a great song but I think his rendition is do you think better like it's got a cool chorus on there his vocals are great do you think this sounds better because it sounds better or because you had a crush on Winnie Cooper from the Wonder Years back in the day Winnie Cooper ah that's a good question it's a real good question I was not I I think it sounds better but that's it's close I related to Kevin's brother Wayne yeah that's who I thought I was all right well why don't we hear your guys answer what do you think is the greatest song ever in the podcast and she never will I'll have to say I'll be there for you by the Rembrandts but um Matt from Richfield is gonna go with what about your friends by nice nice nice Rob how about you I'm I think I'm gonna say um that's what friends are for because she doesn't actually say like what
[53:04]they're for you know it could be like putting them down to your wife and being like all these guys they want to do this podcast tonight sweetie I don't want to but they really want to and I gotta do it you know so I think I think throwing friends on the bus is one thing that friends are there for really so I think that's a that's a very good great answer by me Aaron I'll have to go lean on me just because I love Bill Withers so all these are great answers but unfortunately you're all incorrect and and I've decided to go off the board right now and if you guys can recall back to the early 90s there was an incredible band that played on the TV show Saved by the Bell it was the Zack Attack band and they sang Friends forever there's AC Slater you want to talk about a show that awakened you sexually this is it right here
[54:02]and it was Slater still does man yeah that hair all goes back to the hair oh man and I said that I think you shut it down Rob there's this Rob did you ever connect with any of the the characters from Saved by the Bell oh yeah oh I was a huge I always thought to myself for sure I was um Zack but I think looking back I'm definitely uh Mr Belding now for sure you know Russ hearing that makes me think of this song Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds picture yourself whoops in a boat on a river that ball tangerine it's gonna be George what is Bill this is if you took all the Beatles and combined them into one person it's William
[55:03]Shatner which is wild to think of an actor just being like I should just talk about a Beatles song that sounds good to me and then everybody's like yeah that is good Bill let's do that let's put it out if you don't if he right he probably got paid like five grand to do that and just sit in the studio if you have a chance to go on a deep dive on YouTube and watch all every single William Shatner like recorded voice video I highly recommend it it's it's well time for that because I'm watching all Pavel's kettlebell videos thank you comrades Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds they've said over and over it is not about LSD although Paul admits before this album he did take LSD for the first time and it brought John him closer together important lesson for all the kids out there just do what your friends tell you okay it's gonna it's gonna make you make Sergeant Pepper just give in to the peer pressure but this is a fun song about taking drugs I think taking drugs I think you should have a song where it's really about taking drugs where
[56:00]who ate all the cereal last night uh I feel like who took all the baloney yeah I feel like I feel like people are drilling into my walls and trying to come get me I've never done drugs uh heart heavier than uh weed but I did have a friend give me some good advice which is uh cars are real that's a thing to remember if you're on psychedelics one of the rules is cars are real so did he learn that the hard way or did he read it on one of Rob's Wikipedia articles sounds to me like he learned the hard way it sounded to me like he'd been through that experience before do it with a friend and cars are real all right next one getting better this is about them going to the store and getting um some butter they really went hard after that like abrasive sandpaper guitar sound and I don't like the sound but I I respect it because that's like what they were going for I don't think it's a pleasant sound that the pet sounds influence trying to get something a little
[57:00]better yeah I you gotta love that song I will say they do slam teachers right in the beginning of it where they're talking about how the teachers weren't cool guess what guys you don't want a cool teacher okay every cool teacher you ever had in high school was the absolute weirdo yeah I agree right it was right it was like hey I'm into the same stuff you are and you're like what the fuck get out of here you're a teacher this is the first this is the first track on the album that gets weird with ladies where he says I used to get angry at my woman and beat her and kept her apart from the teacher she loved like what's going on Paul like where'd that come from no well I think Lennon wrote that probably with a little help from my friends Lucy in the sky and getting better is is the greatest three song stretch in the history of albums I would argue that with the four I think it's the best four I don't think you'll find a better four no because I know you guys don't love that first one like I do but it's so good um guess who's was that guess who's back on my block and in cold blood but that's off I think we're doing that I think we're doing that in three weeks Aaron I don't know I don't think it's our second episode or the third episode I think it's right in between Bob
[58:00]Dylan and Otis Redding it's coming up very quickly and we'll get there I can't wait till we do Bob Newhart all right fixing a hole never enjoyed the harpsichord on here but I do like this song more than I remember it's just this is a this is a this is a the bottom of the album for me oh really yes the line where he says I'm taking the time for a number of things that weren't important yesterday and it's like that's right this gets deep it starts getting deep yeah well if you guys are actually listening to lyrics then I mean I'm I'm lost and I like that guitar thing where it kind of gets like spaced out like that seems like Bowie or somebody to me like that seems like it presages a lot of like what's going on in the 70s so Rob you said this was the bottom of the album when I was listening to it I didn't really feel like there were a lot of weak links but if you guys had to rank every song like for example Matt what would you put as the last song of the 11 or 12 or however many are on here uh I know I know a lot of people love when
[59:03]um that's it's okay it's you know this I mean fixing a hole might be there too the older I get the more I start listening to the lyrics of that and uh you know fix in a hole where the rain comes in stop my mind from wondering you know if you if you kind of get real deep on that I mean you know there's like you can start getting kind of lost in yourself I think you know so I mean it's uh there's something there yeah I mean you know so it's it's funny how some of the songs that were just again throwaway songs that a lot of people thought you kind of come back to them um and they just have a couple lyrics that are just they they kind of hit home to some people they hit home to me sometimes so I mean that that's where it's it it's kind of it maybe gets a little too personal but uh you know I don't know it's hard to say that there's any really like throwaway songs here in my opinion I feel so stupid because one of my favorite
[60:01]songs is the one where he tells me hey they want you to sing the song and I'm like okay oh man she's leaving home oh this is gorgeous I have to I love this uh yeah uh I think I read that this one I shouldn't do any research but I read that this one was uh orchestrated by someone who was not the Beatles and then these obviously the strings were not Beatles uh playing on the strings so this is what I'm saying like you can't call them the best band to me because some of the best moments in this album have played by the Beatles but like isn't there a big difference between like a band and then like musicians so they may not be the best musicians but you put them together with their playing their instruments they write their songs I mean they're like yeah I think that's true yeah yeah I think that's true I I mean maybe I'm splitting hairs when I say I don't think they're the best band but no I think I certainly hear what you're saying fantastic and it reminded me of of the two Radiohead songs that I know which are fake plastic trees and um high and dry and both of
[61:05]which uh I tried to listen to to see if I could actually hear parallels other than just like a dude singing in falsetto and there are not really but um they reminded me of those two Radiohead tunes and then you realized on the Radiohead albums you couldn't understand any of the words they were saying and you're done right right doesn't matter yeah I think every band should have a song at the beginning where they're like this is the song and we want you to sing along I'm gonna keep returning to that bottom of the list and this next one for me is butt naked last to say I do apologize because I forgot about this song this one is the this one is absolutely the bottom apparently he wrote this he had a poster in his room that said Mr kite and so he just made a song about it sounds like junior high I read that he he copied all the lyrics off of like a circus poster and it's word for word off of a poster right yeah yeah I mean and here's the thing I read again I shouldn't do research because we promised not to but I read that all
[62:04]of that music was assembled from tapes of old circus bands which is incredible like that's a technique that then outlived Sergeant Pepper and still goes on today you know sampling music but I don't enjoy listening to it I if you're if you think that this started like hip-hop sampling music Rosie that is saying that that is you're gonna pull a muscle you might as well chase that kite because you're gonna pull a muscle you're scratching so far oh my God no that song sucks thank you all right this is a safe space to say Beatles songs suck all right now I have to say we And I kind of poo-pooed this song, and I listened to it again today. Oh, this song's fun. And it really, this is another one where, doing a little research, he had a metaphysical conversation with friends about the space between us, and we don't realize, like, we are inside. It's so good. And you've got to love this. I do, I have to say that the sitar sound,
[63:02]as soon as you kind of accept it for him exploring this other kind of music, it's just as beautiful. It's the one song in here that George Harrison wrote. I mean, it's my understanding that they used the sitar on the previous album, Revolver, but this was kind of the first time where it was a very popular song, or the first time where it's kind of recognized as a Western band kind of embracing Eastern music, which the first time I listened to it, admittedly, I thought, I have no idea what's going on here. This is so different and bizarre. This is not like the Beatles that I know. And then when I was talking about research earlier, this is, to me, like a prime example of when I listened to this and I understood what went into it, you kind of look at it very differently. Yeah. Loved it. All right. Now for Matt's favorite song. Yeah, I love this one. You're gonna die. Everybody fucking dies. Doot, doot. By the way, when Paul McCartney turns 64, the only reason this hasn't been in a Pixar movie is due to sample clearance.
[64:01]This is a Pixar theme song right here. You know that when he turned 64, he was like, when Paul McCartney turned 64, he was like, fuck, shit. How many interviews do I have to do where I talk about this fucking song? I don't think Paul McCartney has to do anything he doesn't want to do. I don't think Paul McCartney has to do anything he doesn't want to do at this point in his life. Can you imagine being Paul McCartney? Not one thing. Like, you wake up every day and you say, I'm gonna do what I want every minute of this day. Hey, Paul, should you get a hairstyle that actually looks good? No. No way. Give me that look like I'm a mom from the Midwest. Should you marry a woman who has two working legs? Hell no, I'm Paul McCartney. I do what I want. All right. Next one. Lovely Rita. Song about margaritas. A lot of people don't know that. Yeah. Do you think they just came up with the phrase, Rita, meter maid, and we're just like, yeah, fuck it, it's a song now. Have you guys ever been attracted to a meter maid in your life?
[65:03]Like, you're like, oh, I love the way. Just that one that, yeah, just that one that Randy Moss hit, right? He didn't bump into a meter maid with the vehicle. Straight cash, homie. Yep. All right. Good morning, good morning. This is another song where I feel like there's so many movements in this song where it switches what's going on. And every time they switch, it's just so enjoyable to hear a brand new, like. It's like a real classical song, right? With movements and. This is one where I'm thinking of, you know, like, this is their commentary on, you know, British working class life. Which, you know, I'm sure was boring and oppressive. But, I mean, you know, now being an American working class guy. I'm not working class, but a guy who has to go to a job. Yeah, I'm like, hey, John, back off, man. I couldn't play in a band for a living. I got to go report to my boss about my stupid shit, you know?
[66:03]Yeah. I mean, they literally. They literally had an open thing that started at 7 p.m. They went into the studio at 7 p.m. And they're like, man, working life, it's pretty hot. Good morning. Yeah, good morning. That's when you guys are, like, starting. They're making fun of us. We have to go to work. Yeah, it's like, eh, now it doesn't sit as well with me as it did when I was, you know, 19 and thinking, like, yeah, man, fuck that. I'm never going to do that. Well, yeah, guess what? Tomorrow morning, I'm going to be like, well, I'm sorry, Brian. I didn't have that thing done you wanted. It's us going to work so we can take part in some capitalistic society that buys your fucking albums, John Lennon. How about that? Yeah, right. Yeah, I agree with you guys. What we're doing now is way better than being in the Beatles. All right. So they toured so much they got bored of all the huge crowds of women chasing them around. Oh, no. Yeah. If I was in that help movie and they were chasing me, I would always be running so slowly. Like, oh, no, no. Don't grab me and lick my nipples. All right. Next one. Sergeant Peppers. Lonely Heart Club Land.
[67:01]Guys, this is like if you win a game show twice. It's a reprise. And I'll tell you what. I like it more. I think it's a banger. It is. I don't need to hear it again, but I think it's fun. And you realize how good the song is. But then you think it's the end of the album, too, because it's coming back. And you think it's an amazing end to the album. Right, Matt? I do. Well, you do. And then you hear a day in the life and you realize that just phenomenal ending song. And before we finish this, I should point out that they wanted Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields Forever. To also be on this album. But the record company pressured them to release those as singles. And the Beatles had a policy of never putting their singles on an album. So, I mean, think about that. You throw those two on here. Oh, Jesus Christ. Get ready to throw Mr. Kite in the toilet. Do you guys think, though, that if those songs were on here, some of the songs we love would now just be also rants? They would kind of be you would you would put them as as the last song on the list
[68:01]and they would be overshadowed because there are too many hits? No, I think it's a good thing. It's like it's like truffle butter on a steak. Guys, as somebody who my doctor tells me that I'm, you know, rather obese is what he said. There's no such thing as too much of a good thing. Give me more, more, more, more. I want more hits on my albums, period. I don't care if it's too long for the record. You know, I don't think your doctor knows how strong you are. Well, the problem is I went and I went into my doctor said, open your mouth and say, oink. And I was like, that seems like a bad doctor to me. All right. Disrespectful son of a bitch. Finally, a day in the life. You know what? As a podcast, I should probably just like tell people I'm super attractive. Like I could be anybody I want. This is like a theater. Yeah. But then we have that live show in Vegas in a couple of months. That's true. This is always like when you see celebrity radio people for the first time. I remember I used to listen to the local sports radio station all the time and you
[69:00]only heard the voices. And then when I finally saw the people behind him, I couldn't believe I'd ever put any weight in what these guys thought. Right. We might need to stay away from the live show for as long as possible. That's like there's a guy in Rochester who's named Big Mark Clark. And he's always like, this is Big Mark Clark on the morning show. And I was like, oh, you know, he's Big Mark Clark. He's a big deal. He's got the guy was fucking 450 pounds. He was one of the biggest guys I've ever seen my whole life. Story. This is Big Mark Clark. And I was like, oh, you're fucking huge. That's why you're big. Yeah. He was literally big enough where he should have been tiny Mark Clark. He was big enough to have the reverse nickname. All right. That was like my nickname in high school. Smart Rob. All right. A day in the life. I mean, how can you we can't listen to a clip. It's also I mean, it's is that the first the first appearance of an acoustic guitar in this whole album? It is right. Holy shit, Aaron. You're so smart. You know, but then you skip ahead a little bit. I mean, so this is what you say. You think it's this ballad, but then it goes into kind of this poppy and then it just hammers
[70:05]out at the end. Right there. Yeah. Right. Here's the poppy. This is so good. Is this the original like hidden track on an album? Arguably has one of the best endings on album ever, which is get the post on that. It's over. And the first time you listen to this album and you hear that ending, your mind is just got to be completely blown. Right. Oh, yeah. It's the perfect buildup. And it's it's a it's it's the only ending that could do this album justice until you accidentally keep leave your record on. And then you get to this fucking shit at the end. The hidden track. The hidden track. What the fuck? We just have to call a spade a spade and just say, like, literally, they're testing whether
[71:02]they can just shit on the stage and people will say anything at this point. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They just got so into that sound call out shit. And they just thought that they could. That was a thing that was important. It is a bit of a preview of the Beatles that we're going to see in the future, isn't it? One thing with this song. Now, generally, the idea of our podcast of Beck did it better is that Beck from Odelay, the Beck that was around in the 90s. Did it better. You know, Odelay loser. That guy did it better than the Beatles. But there's actually another Beck out there that we need to consider here. And that is. And that is. This fucking blows my mind. Russell. Wait a minute. And that is Jeff Beck, who was the guitarist for the Yardbirds. Oh, yeah. And he actually covered this song by the Beatles. So, Rob, if you could tee up a day in the life by Jeff Beck and maybe jump forward about 30 seconds. This is going to be an instrumental version of this. This song. Of which there are many.
[72:00]I hear them on the jazz radio station frequently. You listen to the radio. I've been covered a lot. Every time I turn on the radio by accident. So it's interesting. Did you guys know that Rolling Stone actually rated Jeff Beck as the fifth greatest guitar player ever, which is far above any of the Beatles. Yeah. And he covers this song. And actually, Jeff Beck. Won the 2009 Grammy for Best Rock Instrumental Performance. The Beatles. The Beatles never won a Grammy for Best Instrumental Performance. And as Aaron said, they're not considered great musicians. So if you listen to this song, I think you could easily argue that Beck did it better when it comes to instrumental performance of a day in the life than the Beatles. What are your thoughts? That I can't argue with that.
[73:01]That's brilliant. That's that's God damn brilliant. You need to bring this up on your walk. I know it's going to take a lot of setup and you're going to have to explain a lot of stuff. Start at the quarter mile mark. It's when I sweat through my shirt. I'm just going to go straight into Jeff Beck. It's going to take you the whole walk, but it's worth it. The payoff. Just to let you know, I have a podcast. It's called Beck. Where are you going? I have a podcast. Who is that man over there on the beach running? After the kite? Incredibly awkwardly. I need to go talk to the heck gentleman. Holy shit. We're so good at this shit. All right. So now we're going to go into our final part of the show today, which is our rating system. Okay. And this is a rating system. I don't have to explain to you because everybody's heard it so many times. They love it. They can't get enough of it. We want to know is Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart Club band. Is it in the appropriate place on the list? So was it rolling well toned? And that of course means it should be at number one.
[74:01]It's the greatest ever. Was it rolling boned? Meaning it was too low on the list? I don't know. Please don't say that. That doesn't make any sense. Or is it rolling grown? It's too high up on the list. I'm going to start. Matt, what do you think? Where should Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band be? I think it's well toned, rolling, well toned. You know, it's easy. It's safe. It's, you know, everybody thinks of it as the top one. So, you know, it's not to be a shock. It's not to mean that it's easy and safe. I think it's just kind of a consensus. And, you know, it led to so many different things and so many ways of producing albums and experimenting with music that it's right where it should be. Russell, what do you think? Is it rolling well toned, rolling grown, or did it get rolling boned? Rob, I have also been getting a lot of emails about your rating system. So I just want to give you kudos. I know our fans are really into the rating system. So nice work on that. I appreciate your effort.
[75:00]A lot of those emails were from like robward2 at gmail.com. Yeah. Twitter is blowing up. Twitter is blowing up. Every time I swipe on someone on Bumble, they ask me to gmail them at robward3 at gmail.com. And every time it goes poorly for me. Yeah. Send nudes. I'm going to say it's rolling well toned. I decided to go back and start from the beginning of the Beatles catalog and kind of listen to all their albums in order. And for me, I think this is their best album that I've listened to. And I think that the Beatles are the best band ever. Despite Aaron's questioning their musical abilities. I think that's the greatest band ever. And if this is their best album, then I think it would be reasonable to put this as the number one album of all time. All right, Aaron, what do you think? I have to give it a rolling well toned groan because I'm going to groan at the entire list. But if you're going to make a list from Rolling Stone about the top 500 albums, you can't start talking about it without Sergeant Pepper. So I love the album despite all of the things I've said about it.
[76:03]And I think Paul and Ringo are going to be fine with all the insults I've hurled their way and they probably don't give a shit. And I'm going to call it a well toned groan. Can you imagine them like listening to podcasts like they're obsessively listening to Beatle podcasts and making a list? Who's out here talking shit about my journey? Oh, I can't believe making fun of the Beatles. And that was a good impression. I can't believe I didn't break it out earlier. Guys, we should restart. Nailed it. In 2020. All right. Now that I know I have such a great impression up my sleeve. Everybody, the correct answer for this is it's Rolling Cornerstone. This is the start of the whole thing. This is the most important album ever. This is an album. This is what albums could be when you give geniuses all the money and all the time that they need. And it's crazy because so many times that goes wrong, right? Where you give people like you have carte blanche to do whatever you want and they just fuck it up and they make the worst piece of art that they've ever made. Ishtar. Oh, over and over and over. You see it.
[77:00]And yet somehow the Beatles. Eyes wide shut. With nobody. Telling them what to do. Still came out with the great album that not only is, has a theme and it's brilliant, but yet it's, it's a, the songs are great. Like, yeah. Is there a fucking chicken sound in it? Sure. I love it. I can't get enough of it. I thought it was fun. When I was listening to this, my family hated me less than normal, which I think is a great. It's a huge step up. So that was it for Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. We're probably the only podcast to ever talk about this album. And that's a good thing. Next week, we are talking about Pet Sounds by the Beach Boys. So we'll see you then. This has been Beck Did It Better. When you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time. But you're just too lazy to look it up online. Oh, this song's so fucking good. If you want to hear four guys who chat and then they get off track. This is Mr. Kite. That was a toss. I've got the perfect podcast for you, Jack.
[78:02]Beck Did It Better. We should get Jeff Beck to replay this for us.
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