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Pet Sounds and wife swapping (1966)

Beck Did It Better Podcast 1966
About this episodeBeck Did It Better Looks at Pet Sounds by The Beach Boys. We discuss the making of this 1966 album, talk a lot about wife swapping and try to figure out what a round is. We also all agree the God Only Knows is the greatest piece of art ever. The Mona Lisa sucks compared to it. We all agree on that.

[00:00]In 2020, four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums as decided by Rolling Stone magazine. This resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music, excoriated the order, and led us to making this podcast. We are far from experts, and we promise to do almost no research. All opinions are our own unless you disagree. Please sit back and enjoy. Beck did it better. This is Pet Sounds. And God only knows what we do without you, the listener. And God only knows what I'd do without you. God only knows what I'd do without you. God only knows what I'd do without you. God only knows. God only knows. Guys, we should fuck this shit and go start a band. We are good. We are the Beach Boys. When you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time. But you're just too lazy. Look it up online.

[01:02]If you want to hear from guys who chat and then they get off track. I've got the perfect podcast for you, Jack. Beck did it better. All right. Welcome to Beck did it better. The podcast where we're talking about the Rolling Stones top 500 greatest albums of all time. And we're all the way to number, number, number two. Pet Sound. Let's start talking about the Beach Boys and Brian. Wilson. Essentially, it's Brian Wilson doing this whole album, but the Beach Boys and Pet Sounds. But before we talk about that, let's talk about something more important. Rolling. How's it going? All right. So let's go rolling. How's it going? It's the, it's the trend that's sweeping the nation. Aaron works. Aaron rolling going. How are you doing? I was, I was almost going gone today. I'll be honest. I had, I had a good day, but it was a work day. And so I'm working at home with my toddler. And I hope my employer is not listening to this because I did very little work today.

[02:01]Uh, by mostly working on trying to raise my son who, uh, at various points in the day tried to murder us, but he's a wonderful boy and I love him so much. So Aaron, at what, Aaron, at what point of the day do you just acknowledge it's going to be a very low work day? Uh, about 10 AM. Yeah, probably 10 AM. It's like, oh yeah, I missed the, I was going to, I was, so my, my thing is you guys know that, uh, you guys remember that song because I got high. Afro man. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. It was the first dance at my wedding. Once again, I hope my employer is not listening, but I, I, at 10 AM I started, whatever you're about to say, you, you might not want to say this. I mean, we're going to make it big one day and your boss is certain to listen to it, but it was fine for you to say you weren't working at all. You're saying I have these employees that live in California and they're getting high. Shut it down. No, no, this is not happening during work hours. But what happens to me during work hours is that at, you know,

[03:00]9 AM I take my son to the park and I think, okay, I'm like, I'm here for an hour and a half time to get whatever I'm, whatever I didn't do right now. I'm going to, you know, do tonight. Like I'm going to, I'm going to log in tonight. I'm going to get this done. I'm going to finish that report. I'm going to whatever. And, uh, throughout the day I build up a catalog of things I was going to do tonight. Uh, and then the night comes around and I, um, drink wine and I don't do it cause I got drunk. So that's, that's my day. Typically that was my day today. Uh, but I'm fine. I'm really, I'm really good. Now I'm talking to you guys. And I had a few moments before we got started to read, um, the book I'm reading ducks, new report by Lucy Elman, which I truly love. I'm halfway through. Uh, it's a big project for me. So that's where I'm at today. You know what, Rosie, I'm going to go next today. Cause I also have to recommend a book. I'm reading the Institute by Stephen King. It is, it is a classic Stephen King book where basically a kid wakes up, doesn't know where he is, got psychic powers. Everybody's trying to torture him. And then he has to kill everybody.

[04:00]It's a classic Stephen King. If you'd like Stephen King, the Institute, it's a fast read. I've read the whole thing in about three days. Great book. Uh, that sounds amazing. What was it written? I think a year ago. I just came out. It's a very recent. Oh, fantastic. What is your guys? What is your guys' favorites? What is your favorite Stephen King book ever? It is the stand. Yeah. I don't, I don't read, I don't read fiction. So I've never read a Stephen King book. You guys, if you really want to get into a good Stephen King, I've read almost all of his book. I think his best stuff is his short stories. Or I would go with, I really love the walk, which is a, it's him as Richard Bachman, but his short stories are on fucking beatable. They are so good. Have you guys ever read the book where if a person found a time machine and went back in time and could kill Lee Harvey Oswald, what would happen and how would the face of the world change? Have you guys ever read that one? Yeah, I did. 11, 22, 67 or whatever it's called. There you go. There you go. What'd you think of that one, Rob? I thought it was fantastic. And I thought it was one of the few Stephen King stories where he could pull off an ending.

[05:00]A lot of his stories at the end, he's like, uh, aliens, you know, he doesn't quite know how to finish it, but it's like, it's like the wire. It's like every season of the wire. Oh, government fucked it up. Yeah, exactly. Now, if you guys could go back in time and you could take out Lee Harvey Oswald, what would be your first move or what would be your strategy? Are we talking like MMA takedown? Are we talking like get them with a hacksaw, cut a couple of limbs off or what are we talking about here? It's your style. It feels like you've thought about this a little bit, Matt. Which is kind of disturbing to me. Yeah. No, I just, I mean, do you, do you take them before he gets into the building? I mean, there's kind of a, it's kind of, what's that other movie? What's the Tom Cruise movie where the, uh. Live, die, repeat. Minority Report. Minority Report. Isn't that the one where they, you know, they know that you're going to commit a crime and stuff. So when do you, yeah, I don't know. It's kind of getting a little deep and trying to figure out when to, when to take it out. I don't know. I think I'm going to go, I'm going to bring it back to this album and I would go find

[06:00]him wherever he was and I would play for him. I just wasn't made for these times until he was too sad to do anything else. And then he wouldn't assassinate JFK. He would say, I feel you. I am also not made for these times. I also feel very sad and let's hug it out. That's what I would do. You know what I think I would do is do the witness thing, the Harrison Ford movie thing where I put him into a grain silo and then open up the grain silo and all the grain falls on him and he suffocates. Have you ever seen that? It seems like the absolute worst way to go. It'd be terrible. This is taking a dark turn. Oh, well, blame Russ. He's not going on enough dates. He's bummed out. He's got some dark thoughts right now. I thought Matt's reasoning of just giving him a fair double leg takedown and holding him down in a submission hold for a while until it had passed was perfectly reasonable. But you took it a little further, Rob. I just thought we could listen to the Beach Boys together, me and Lee Harvey, and he would change his mind. So, Russ, rolling going. How's it going? It's going pretty well. My brother and my sister-in-law recently purchased a new business and they've been running it.

[07:01]My sister-in-law is going to be running it. My sister-in-law is going to be out of town for a while and they asked me to come up and help with their kids for three or four days next week. And so I thought you guys being parents, maybe I could ask for a little advice. Oh, do you have an iPad, Russell? Mountain Dew and Pixie Stix. Mountain Dew and Pixie Stix. Nothing else. Check and check. Right about eight o'clock at night, too. My advice would be to get an iPad that has, you know, 5G. They can watch movies anywhere. That's my number one parenting advice. The one thing. I've always found is that I usually take advice better when I go sit in the corner for that advice, Rob. You know, it's so insulting. You guys think you need to cue me for this one. Really? I was just getting ready to having trouble loading. Get, get, get, get to the corner. It's time for Russell's Advice Corner. Oh, yeah. You know, that's so sick. That's so sick that you need to request to go into the advice corner. I think that's ill.

[08:00]That's messed up to me. Okay, so I don't really need advice on how to be a good uncle. I've already kind of got that figured out. But sometimes uncles don't have to deal with questions that parents have to deal with, right? So last time I was with my nieces and nephews, and they're about between the ages of four and six. My six-year-old niece asked me, first, is the tooth fairy real? And then second, is Paul Bunyan real? And I didn't really know how to respond to it. I gave her this long dissertation about how Paul Bunyan is a folklore, and I don't think she quite understood that. So I'm curious. How do you guys as parents deal with your kids when they ask about kind of these things like Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny? I think the answer is you have to keep that dream going as long as possible. Because why not? Like, what do you want the kids to grow up and learn what the real world is like? Like, oh, guess what? There's taxes. That sucks. I'm a big fan of the, and I think I stole this from a parenting blog. I'm a big fan of the, I like to think or I like to imagine.

[09:02]You know? It's a brain of thought. So when they ask you if the tooth fairy is real, like, well, I, you know, I like to, I like to think that the tooth fairy comes and, you know, puts a dollar under my, or whatever it is now, $50 or whatever, under my pillow if I lose a tooth, or like. California. That's the Bay Area. I would want to imagine that, you know, Santa flies around delivering presents. That's, that's, that's what I think is the best way to go. You know, engage your own imagination in this process. My guess is the tooth fairy probably delivers a certain amount of Bitcoin to the kids out in Oakland. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. They're in Oakland and they don't get cash. Taking this one step further, are there certain, certain fairy tales or whatever you want to call these things that are more acceptable to tell at an earlier age? Like it's got to be okay to tell your kids that the Easter bunny's not really, I mean, it's a giant effing Easter bunny jumping around. So that could be like a terrifying thing. Right. Yeah. Is there any sort of scale of like Santa Claus has to stay till the end or the elf on the shelf stays till the end or what gets to, what gets to be divulged first?

[10:02]I think given your geographic location, Paul, but. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. bunion stays forever because i'm not convinced he wasn't real so i thought bunion is real 100 how did all those lakes get made minnesota i don't know yep that's what i'm saying yep i mean my experience with minnesotans is each of them think that their own farts or footprints made particular lake but that's a different story for a different time i i i think santa santa as soon as the santa one crumbles the rest of them are going to follow you got to keep that santa one going as long as you possibly can it's the base it's the absolute baseline of all other childhood myths and once it all falls apart it's just it's it's pretty much from there right to the grave am i allowed to tell my six-year-old niece that when i showed her that movie child's play that chucky is not real or was that a mistake that i showed her i mean that's just kind of that's just common sense to let make sure that they watch out for those dolls cautionary tale that's a cautionary tale like that russ that's that's life advice right there don't worry about that my two-year-old niece is never going to be excited again to carry

[11:04]around that little doll she carries around wherever she goes so i will say two years old is very young to watch child's play i think two years old is about where i would draw the limit that's the line that's where you sometimes this over a couple of course of a couple months i watched all the friday the 13th movies with my eight-year-old and that was right at the cusp of how young you can go with horror movies because now anytime i turn to her and go then she starts freaking out so it's i would not recommend that no russell i think you know as the uncle it's your job to just you play that shit out as you can oh hell yeah they're real you know like i saw them yesterday they were full i came in from minneapolis and i think they you know i saw him on 494 driving by me i swear yeah you know you you as the uncle can play that up just fine yeah yeah i saw i agree with matt that's smart i saw that little freckle head red-headed doll running around and he murdered like eight people on this line so you better be quiet go to bed russ i would caution you to stop equating chucky with

[12:02]santa claus they are two very different things do not put those on the same level at all it's a good thing i went to russell's advice corner today i appreciate it fellas i'm glad glad you glad to have you here that's it time's up get out of the corner that was russell's advice corner oh yeah i was gonna say now that we're out of the corner that as a child of divorce i had a lot of thoughts uh jokes i was gonna make about bubbles you don't want to burst for these kids but i'm not gonna do that part of the bit by the way i want to go back to the intro i was gonna say something this is what's going on in my life right now is that jenny jenny dropped a bomb on me before we started recording tonight she said you know i was listening to an earlier podcast which shocked and amazed me and she said i think i'm really our podcasts yeah our podcast what the hell wow i know what a loser but here's the thing is that she said to me you know i think i'm really with matt about how much he loves live music and that kind of like i really liked matt's view on

[13:03]live music so matt if you want to do like a straight-up trade or whatever you want to do whatever you just let me know because i'm down she obviously wants to be with you more i don't know how does there like i mean like maybe a weekend or something i don't know there's kind of a call that something i think you know a weekend or a decade i think whatever you want to do is to choose which which one of rob and his wife you want to marry that's the best part of it you you get the choice oh yeah that's what i meant madison that'll be tough that'll be tough you know 23 hours and 56 minutes of the day you know you and i can be eating twinkies and yeah another four minutes i don't know i'm impressed that's a long time that's great man i have to admit a lot of this album made me think about what it was like as like a in junior high or a teenager talking about what it's going to be like when you get married and fall in love and like oh my god can you imagine if we get to wake up together and now it's like marriage now is so different than what i thought it was going to be when i was younger i mean when i was younger all

[14:00]i i would say to myself like oh my god please give me a dream where i have three blondes in my bed like that's all i want and the other morning i woke up with me and my wife and i was like oh my wife and my two daughters in the same bed and i was like jesus christ get me out of here there's not enough room i could barely sleep i like i like went on a couch where both my head and my feet are careful what you wish for there rob yeah i was like i was like this is still better than being in a bed where i have three different people rolling and kicking me at the same time so uh rolling going matt how's it going i don't think i asked you how's it going it's going good uh minnesota in july august september you know this is why we live here horrible in the winters but now and so just living it up living it up taking the kids out for bike rides stuff like that having a good time matt do you do you as a father always do the responsible thing and wear your bike helmet when you're out with your kids the other day i was i was out for a walk and i noticed there was some parents and kids and the parents weren't wearing the bike helmets but the kids were and i wondered is that is that the way to handle it or how do you handle that no i i i wear it all the

[15:04]time and i even wear it just when i'm biking you know we live by the the chain of lakes or 10 blocks you know a guy told me once it's kind of like skiing too you know when you first started skiing nobody wore helmets but then sonny bono died and somebody told me it's just not the way to go cracking your head on the pavement's just not the way to die so if you might everybody's wearing them i just wear it too you know we i've even my my eight-year-old just started biking and my parents live six blocks as the crow flies but we got to go up and around the highway and get a couple major streets so you know we even do the get off and walk the bikes across things that because it's just not the way to go so yes i i think it's the only it's the responsible thing now do your kids put the the baseball cards in their spokes so it's like a motorcycler do they have the horns or what type of accessories do they have for the bikes for these kids these days because we had to kind of question back in the day make our own accessories but what's out there for kids and bikes these days uh pokemon cards more than anything you know so we don't

[16:03]have baseball cards any little thing well yeah it is oh wow there's more uh there's more they just there's more worlds all that stuff for them so they should make accessories for the peloton like to make it feel like you're riding a motorcycle instead of a bike so make it kind of bring you back to your youth so maybe for example you get some sort of motorcycle sound so when you start revving up the engine and you start pedaling hard it feels like you're just flying down the pacific coast highway on your chopper or maybe you get like a hot woman and she sits behind you on the bike while you're riding it like with the with the cut off jean shorts and everything you ever forget a motorcycle where the lady could sit in front while you're driving i mean i guess i just that would be you rosie you would be in back your wife you'd be in front you'd be like i'm getting car sick i that just seems like a better way to do it aaron would be in one of those little side cars you know that that is attached to the motorcycle and his wife would say now you sit over there aaron enjoy your time on the map i'm trying to look at where they're going i wouldn't i gotta

[17:03]admit though if some woman showed up on a motorcycle and was like get on i'd be like oh yeah this is odd as hell i'm good on this thing i gotta do it i just i would sit in the side car and i would just listen to you guys on the podcast and it would be wonderful i'd be like she's wearing a bike helmet i don't care i'm still taking the chances this is still hot as hell i think it's great that's what i love about this new mask mandate this mask mandate is perfect for guys like me my upper face is hot as shit my upper face looks so good it's it's so great put a mask on there nobody can see like oh is that what he thinks a mustache is like nobody can see that i look so good with a mask oh it's just fantastic is this guy in the middle of the road i don't know if he's in the middle of the road i don't know ever heard of toothpaste yeah no i will say that is one thing about wearing a mask my mask has started to smell so bad it smells like it smells like something dyed in every time i put it on you can wash that can't you yeah i can if i thought about it if i thought about it any other time beside the first time i put it on i put it on i'm like oh jesus christ it smells terrible

[18:00]and then by the end i'm like oh get this off and i don't think about it anymore it's too late to wash it i'm with you rob i don't think you wash it i think it's like a good luck charm like when hockey players don't shower they don't shave they don't wash it they don't wash it they don't for for weeks on end in the nhl playoffs yeah rob i think you've made it this far through the pandemic you got to stick with that mask you do not change that stinking mask you know at some point what there's going to be a mask arms race of having the coolest mask i i did it is man masks are accessories man buy it i did buy a baby yoda holding a vikings football mask what is the coolest mask do you erin i bought one just uh the other day off of a website um just on it i mean i don't know you're not gonna you guys what the fuck bird cages bird cages what the hell why are you even on this podcast did you search bird cage mask did you search bird cage mask how did you find a bird cage match so there's uh how much time you got there's a tattoo artist uh okay who i don't have any tattoos from

[19:00]but i like his work his name is greg rojas and he's uh well known for his bird cage tattoos and so you know tattoo artists obviously can't uh buy their trade right now so they got to be known for something i could do it bird cage tattoo it's fucking like five lines it's it's one down here one over here one over here down bird so i bought a bird cage mask because i've always wanted one of his bird bird cage tattoos but i don't have one yet and i don't know when the next time i'm getting a tattoo is so i had to buy one of his masks i was thinking of getting a mask that has my lower face on it because those always look so fucked up because it's so much bigger than normal but right right now that you made me think that there's a bird cage mask out there i definitely want to get one with my lower face on it because that bird cage mask sounds shitty it sounds like a terrible idea i'm gonna send you a bird cage mask rob you're gonna like it rob i also think if you went i also think if you went with the your own face mask people wouldn't be as shocked and appalled when you do take the mask off eventually you're kind of setting them up for your weaning them into the the stark reality that is your lower face

[20:01]yeah i need to find i need to find a hotter guy to get his lower face on my face you're right about that or like a woman's face huh progressive okay edit that out you need to talk about the thanks guys real supportive mother fucker all right so let's talk about the beach boys real quick let's talk about pet sounds any experience with this album or the band russell what about you any experience with the beach boys or pet sounds in general i have no real experience with pet sounds i remember listening to the beach boys all the time as kids i think rob the other day you were saying that your parents had the beach boys greatest hits or something along those lines and i remember we had a tape like that too and when ever we would go on trips in the car or road trips we would always listen to that tape so it had surfer girl surfing safari surfing usa little deuce coop fun fun fun and help me run to all those songs that are like these big commercial sucks what's that what that's a shitty song

[21:02]little deuce coop that song rocks aaron yeah you're wrong but but i think even more importantly than those songs do you guys remember when that movie cocktail came out that soundtrack came out with a song kokomo kokomo was by far the biggest song in my fourth and fifth grade year absolutely i would say in my life as a student that was the biggest song for any year that i was ever in school we went to different schools man tupac came out and you know and biggie smalls and it was who's better yeah so but i get i know what you mean because that was you know when they're singing every island it was awesome i had a friend where we would literally sit there and just listen to kokomo over and over and we're like yep and we're like this song is so good never seen the movie so well never seen it i just know the soundtrack so well it's a great one my brother and my sister-in-law are actually on a quest to go to every island that is in the song kokomo

[22:02]they've gotten through like six of them or something like that oh nice your family in these quests yeah your mom they're goal driven yeah that's awesome but what a great quest good kokomo i will say they're going to spend some time finding kokomo on a map and having to get their podcast is going to be as good as ours but i'm i'm looking forward to listening to their podcasts but yeah why didn't we come up with an idea like that instead i'm sitting out in my fucking parents car at nine o'clock at night i'm sitting on my porch talking to you guys about the beach boys they're like you should be in aruba they're like we should go to aruba jamaica come on i want to take you to key largo montego god damn it so in my mind in in my mind i always thought of the beach boys as you know having all these hit songs and all these songs and all these about bermuda and bahama and surfing and cars and girls yeah and when i saw this album was number two on the list i was kind of shocked because i was like this doesn't seem like the type of music that would be up this high because i wasn't really familiar with pet sounds and i listened to the album and i was waiting i was like where are any of the songs i know because i don't know

[23:04]i've heard of maybe the opening song but i don't know any of the other songs and so when none of these songs were on there i was kind of shocked and i was like what the hell is this how can this on there and then i kind of took some time listened to it a few times and i think i know a few of you guys might have watched it but i watched a documentary on amazon prime called pet sounds and it kind of was about the making making of this this album and kind of where the beach boys came from before this album and it was really good i'd highly recommend it but so i gained a little further appreciation watching that and then listening to it but that's where i came at with this album edit the a word out because they don't need our advertising but i but i feel yeah pay us mother fuck pay us jeff bezos so like i feel like you're like you if you listen to this album for the first time and you didn't know god only knows which that means you haven't watched love actually as many times as i have secondly if you didn't know uh like i envy you like you're like it's like my dream in life is to

[24:02]go back and watch empire strikes back without knowing the end and you got to do that with this album you got to listen to it with fresh ears like that's amazing i envy your experience and i'm excited to hear what you have to say about the album uh rosie what's your experience with the beach boys or pet sounds in general my experience with the beach boys is the same i think as russell i knew them from kioa like listening with my mom in the car and so i knew now to kioa did they have a beach boys segment on like fridays like did they just do every band in the top five like every day of the week or what so that's that's what i'm about to say is we discussed during the sergeant pepper episode that rob you thought that you could only like the beatles or the rolling stones but i because i was a fan of the beatles i was a fan of the beatles i was a fan of the super beatles dork and read about how pet sounds had influenced the beatles i felt like i had to choose between the beatles and the beach boys and i was like i'm a beatles guy like ah the beatles thing and so i never got into like i i willfully didn't listen to pet sounds for many

[25:04]years and now uh listening to this album i love it so much i think it's fantastic uh and as i mentioned um i watch love actually every christmas with my lady and so god only knows plays such an important role and in love actually it's like a pavlovian response for me now i'm like i love this song it's so great what is it about women around the holidays where they want to watch love actually jenny my wife does the same thing every holiday she's like let's watch love actually and i'm like we've seen it 10 times but i make her watch it shocker okay switch up that was a joke that was my joke that's my one joke i've told one joke on the entire rosie you and i we're gonna do a switch up too okay wife swap this album was like i had the same experience where i was like oh the beach boys are like poppy surf music and then you hear pet sounds and you're like oh holy shit this is like really great music so that that's that's where i'm at well don't we need to reframe this conversation right if we're

[26:00]talking about pet sounds we have to stop i mean obviously it's a beach boys album but it's not right it's a brian wilson album it's a brian wilson solo album and they brought in the beach boys in the same way you would like bring your dog to work one day to like entertain people like you the dog is there the dog's not doing that much work like you know like it's like when i bring my daughters to school and they see me teach they're there but they're not doing jack shit like i'm doing most of the work they're just there for fun that's how i picture like brian wilson bringing in the rest of the beach boys and be like l d jardine sing this uh no that sucks you you're terrible those other beach boys though especially the two guys who always wear the baseball hats they seem to have a lot of a lot to say about this they seem to think they're pretty damn pivotal pivotal there i will say the beach boys are the beach boys if they would have lived in the time of tabloids would have been the most interesting group ever because really it's brian wilson writing all these great songs on pet sounds and as soon

[27:01]as brian wilson's gone you get kokomo right it goes from like god only knows what it'd be without you to like i think you're compressing the time no i might have lost 20 years in there no 1967 i'm not 87 no i'm editing all this out so it looks like i know what i'm talking about and i'm glad that you guys agree with uh matt what's your what's your history with the beach boys or pet sounds uh with the beach boys i mean it kind of is the same i remember going to broadway pizza in richfield and they had a jukebox and playing every every beach boy song you could you know that's my first kind of intro to the beach boys you know pet sounds i think when i first got introduced was way late in life i was watching a documentary about the wrecking crew which i'm sure we'll get into oh so good and you know and it was heavily it discussed brian wilson and this album and so of course i go and listen to the album and it just it does nothing for me and you know obviously i

[28:01]like the songs and they're great and okay this is good and i think it really comes down to my knowledge of music i mean i don't play an instrument i don't record music i don't know anything but what i hear on the radio and now what i hear uh you know different streaming services things like that and so i don't you know i just i i come in with such a an amateur ear that i don't understand you know what they did how they change things you know brian wilson using the studio as an instrument which is kind of a theme throughout and so you know the more i hear it the the more the more i listen to the album the more i i hear the kind of the genius i think and and how he's integrating different uh drums and you know having four different drummers playing and different this and two different that to get kind of that wall of sound effect that's phil specter created um but you know to me still i still it's not it's not like a oh boy this is so great kind

[29:01]of an album for me i like listening to it i mean you know a lot of the sloop john b wasn't written by them you know they rearranged it so it came out it's just i i think it's uh it's hard for me to say well this is certainly number two um but i think you kind of look into you really dive into the history of it and realize that this was probably one of the first studio albums um to kind of come out and really use it the i don't know if it ever sold commercially until like 20 years later i think it did really bad uh from a commercial selling standpoint and so it's just it's hard for me to say it's the number two album but uh the more i the more i get through it i think i certainly understand where its place in history is it's number two for me i would echo what matt you're saying to some extent when i listened to this the first time i was really surprised that it was this high up on the list it just felt kind of like this melancholy lovey pop album throughout the whole thing and that's the whole concept of

[30:03]it to some extent but then when i started reading about it and when i watched the documentary it gave me a whole new appreciation for what goes into it and then i feel like i'm listening to it a little bit differently or trying to hear different things for example i was looking that there are 22 instruments and 52 musicians that are a part of that song and that's just crazy right it it just sounds like money to me this album just sounds like money it's just like this was somehow and this wouldn't really happen today but this was at the dawn of the album age where somebody said an executive said yeah we could make money if we pay brian wilson to sit in the studio or maybe brian wilson went out on a limb i don't know but you know these musicians on here were just sounds like money to me and it wasn't it wasn't to me it wasn't common at the time for an artist to be able to sit in the studio buy all the studio time buy all the great musicians and let them do what you want like this was this was an album of excess to me but i'll say again like

[31:06]i i do think it's amazing when somebody has all the money and all the time and they produce something great when i was i think i want to say 11 but it might have been like more like 18 i realize i got a lot of money and i got a lot of money and i got a lot of money and i got a lot of money and i could steal money out of my mom's purse right so i was like well i'm gonna steal like a hundred bucks out of my mom's purse and i could buy these things that when you pet them they moved like it's the dumbest thing of all time it's like these wait wait wait what did you pet what do you call this you had to pay a hundred dollars to pet that and it moved no okay well that stuff's been free since you were a teenager so they had like a it was literally like an a caterpillar that had a carpet and they were like and i was like okay if i steal and now looking back it's probably more like 40 bucks but i was like i can steal 40 bucks for my mom i can buy 20 of these and i could pet them and they'd move like that's the decisions i'd make if i had lots of money is like i'm gonna buy

[32:02]20 of these dumb shit things that i could buy one of and it is the same thing but for somebody to be like oh i have all the time in the world and the creativity and i'm gonna hire all these musicians and make something like pet sounds like it's totally different and you got to understand like when brian wilson made this right he was 23 years old and he was like i'm gonna buy this like that's wild to me that a 23 year old could make this album and come up with all these cool sounds that you hear um i will say this for myself beach boys big beach boys fan growing up although could you ever tell that to anybody like if people were like i'm into the beatles could you ever say like oh i'm really into the beach boys no it's simply that i had the beach boys greatest hits albums it was the same thing it was in the car i heard all their hits so then me listening to pet sounds i was like well i bet i know a lot of these songs and a lot of them i had never heard before and at the same time i was like and again i'm so influenced by basically everything i was like oh this is number two on the list these songs are really good but i gotta say guys the third time i listened through this cd i skipped a lot of songs

[33:04]just to get to god only knows which i will say right now and i'm gonna say it the first time greatest song on the list period end of story is the greatest song in rock and roll history this this whole album and i think and i think when you when you put it in perspective this is a 1966 album um the other the other albums on the top five came out in 67 66 revolver in 66 uh highway 61 is 65 rubber soul is 65 so i i think that this song god only knows is the best song in the top five it's the best song rock and roll song ever recorded i will never fast forward it i listen through it all the time i think it's one of the greatest ever um but we can talk about we can talk about it further when we get to this song but here's where i'm wondering like how much are you influenced by what you read because when i listen to this song it's a great song don't get me wrong but i also read that paul mccartney listened to this and told the beach boys this was the greatest song ever so did you

[34:03]read that and that's why you think that because we know you're influenced by what paul mccartney says are you just a big french horn guy this is paul mccartney i just wanted to say god only knows best song ever in the world also i look like your grandmother kind of isn't that cool god damn it i should have been knew that impression a lot of the songs in the top five are as good as i've been loving you i've been loving you too long by otis redding none of these songs even touch that one but i mean often i mean this is i mean i love god only knows but it's not better than for no one it's not better than uh in my life it's not yeah i don't real quick it's not better than tomorrow never knows do you want to tell me this album pet sounds came out in 1966 do you want to tell me the best-selling album in 1966 what it was is this the monkeys again are we gonna get the monkeys it was not the monkey the monkeys went nuts in 1967 not 1966 bob newhart my hairy balls i don't know i'll give you a hint somebody named herb albert

[35:02]and the tijuana brass but they did have the awesomely named album whipped cream and other delights now i have to admit if i was in 1966 and there's an album out called whipped cream and other delights i would have bought it that sounds like i think herb albert was eventually sampled by tribe called quest i think that like that's what he he became uh but i'm gonna have to look that up this is a no research podcast if we're getting into the tribe called quest sampled herb albert i need to go find another people to talk music with i said i'm going to research it later not now i did not i clearly did not research it i'm not gonna lie that the cabin i'm staying at right now i know for a fact has at least one herb albert and the tijuana brass lp that i can listen to i might go do that right now you should do it right now we'll hold so in context of the beach boys this is again it's very similar it's it's interesting how similar this is to the beatles this is their 11th studio album that's crazy think about that albums that's it's it's insane cranking them out and if

[36:01]you listen to early beach boys and frankly what's a lot on their greatest hits album it's a lot of surf songs it's what's sold right it's surf songs and in the midwest because we didn't know jack shit about surfing it was car songs and it was like be true to your schools it was all this like super catchy stuff and all of a sudden after the last album uh brian wilson said listen you know what sucks touring and again think about the parallels between this and the beatles like they didn't want to tour they thought it was the worst thing ever and all of a sudden he said i don't want to tour i want to sit around and and try to make the greatest album of all time talk about my feelings and literally while the rest of the beach boys were out touring he wrote and produced pet sounds which is again i'll say it again it's a brian wilson album to say it's the beach boys is a bit of a stretch uh overall thoughts on the album i it's a it's an incredibly sad album to listen to as a 40 year old man because it's like it's all about how great life's going to be when you're not a teenager and oh my god can you imagine

[37:01]at least one person on this podcast is not yet 40 correct yeah no you're not either russell i'm not 40 i turned 40 in a few weeks and it's actually funny i was looking at a market study today for a work thing and they were going through markets by age and it includes a 39 year old as a millennial millennial yeah no no no no no no january 1st 1981 or later so now according to the market study i saw today i am still okay yep well you you can come to our group we'll take it nice avocado toast russell i would gladly claim that i am probably the oldest looking millennial in the world like i've got like old man white hair kind of you know schlubby overweight you know you know i am probably easily the oldest millennial in the history of the world you gotta put on your bumble i am a millennial in a real big letter it's not suspicious at all speaking of bumble my my appearance and my age has come up a few times and i'm curious how you

[38:00]guys would respond to this so it has come up i would say a handful of times in my online get get get to the corner for russell's advice corner oh yeah in my in my so in my online dating experiences you guys know me well enough our listeners don't know what i look like because we'll never ever put photographs of ourselves online because we don't want people to know what we look like but it's a lot i've got kind of like old man white hair my my aunt says it's not gray that i can call it norwegian blonde so i claim that i've got norwegian blonde hair yeah that's nice but i've had multiple women where i've either messaged them or they've messaged me back or and they've said there's no way you're 39 you're full of shit on your age you're lying about your age and then i just i don't know how to take that like part of me feels like well i know older for my age but part of me is like i'm being honest about it and then i just feel bad about it so the only good response i've ever had when someone's questioned my age is to say actually

[39:02]i'm 94 and i look really young for my age so how would you guys handle that well obviously if they're willing they're already taking the time to message you so they're interested so i i think oh no no no no no no aaron aaron you have a misunderstanding of the online dating world oh no they're just messaging you to burn some of them some of them are just pointing that out in conversation and they're not really slick that way but some of them are actually just trying to burn you and be mean they just take time out of their day to burn you well then you got to leave those people behind i mean that's that's not what you need in your life don't you don't you uh kind of go eye for an eye right back at them about something like there's no way that you're not over 200 pounds or something like that oh my god wow matt whoa matt would i ever ever respond that above average about average is not the accurate physical description for a woman on this site absolutely not i would never do that oh man russell you respect women in a way i i can only imagine

[40:04]how much you respect women and i respect that that makes you know what russell that kind of turns me on i like that i like that about you well as we might need to talk about this album as with every advice corner you guys provided no useful advice for me on how to handle this let's get out of the corner get out of the corner that's it time's up get out of the corner that was russell's advice i just like the idea of my wife being like you look old as shit and maybe like oh my god what am i supposed to say russell give me some advice find the ones with daddy issues then right wait a minute no you guys are giving advice back to the corner just yeah just text back do you have daddy issues things have taken a turn things have taken a turn all right so i i think the overall thoughts on this album i just to get into it a little bit

[41:01]is basically brian wilson is 23 he doesn't want to tour anymore he comes up with this album he hires he's he's friends with this guy tony asher who writes jingles for his company and he meets this guy and says hey we should write an album together tony asher came up with almost all the lyrics on this album and it's really cool because i think what what you really need to respect about this album is it is the greatest album because of the album it's the greatest album because of the the technological advances that came when when we were talking about recording they had to record this album at columbia because there's one of the few eight track recorders that existed at the time now think about that when i do this podcast i could easily put in 30 tracks in the garage band it would take no time at all but at this time to do eight tracks and he would often do six tracks of vocals and mix the rest all of those instruments everything you hear that wall of sound where it's two guitars two drums two basses he would mix the rest of those instruments and he would mix the rest of those instruments and he would mix that all down to the two tracks and that's why in a couple of these tracks you can actually hear a conversation happening you can hear a bike horn beep even though the song is no

[42:04]longer about his childhood like there's all these mistakes and it's also interesting if you're a true musician expert like i am and you look at the key for these songs a lot of these songs don't have a key they kind of meander between a couple different keys and they really don't stick with a key you hear a lot of shifts that are real so different for the time i i think this album to listen to it it's a guy who is 23 and wants to like wake up with a woman in some weird depressing way but at the same time it if you listen to what else was popular at the time like herb albert and the tijuana brass it's such a huge step forward it's it's it's unbelievable could you guys one thing i learned when i was watching the documentary the other day is learned about this relationship with tony asher the guy that rob mentioned the the lyricist for these this album but is it typical what i learned about this is that the beach boys aren't the ones playing the

[43:01]instruments on this they bring in all these professional musicians is that typical for most albums where they bring in all these musicians who aren't actually part of the band no or is this kind of just an amazing production that's what i'm saying i think it was about i think it was about the money i think he had money to pay session musicians he could buy the studio time he could pay the people to be there and i don't think that was typical but they could they could play the music that he wanted to hear right i don't know if his current band members could yeah a little column a a little column b where you know they ended up being able to do it and copying it but i don't think they had the uh you know the the chops to kind of come up with these different ways of doing the songs i don't know when the right time to say this is and i'm concerned that i might be walking into a joke but we've referenced this uh documentary a couple of times and i have to just say this the thing that i took away from watching the first half of the documentary was that i didn't know what the documentary which is all i got through uh was uh related to brian wilson's obsession with be my

[44:01]baby the thing that i took away was uh ronnie specter is a first ballot member of the hall of fine i did not understand what uh and i hope my wife never listens to this i did not i never knew what a sexy woman she was uh there's a couple of video clips of her like winking at the camera and singing and that stuff just uh that that's beautiful footage so i um i really appreciate the beach boys documentary for bringing that into my life i always like to think how weird it is to get aroused by women who are probably dead i think at the same time it's respectful shout out to the bay area's eddie money for reviving her career in late 80s with uh with take me home all right so keeping that in mind if you look at the who's wrote these songs and who's saying on these songs almost all of them are brian wilson so the beach boys are composed of three brothers right brian wilson carl wilson and denny i think it's wilson the wilson the vault wilson the volleyball or is it the guy from the show

[45:01]more power oh oh oh we need more power in the studio and then their cousin would it be awesome if every time that the third wilson brother sang at a concert like he went up he stood behind a he stood behind a fence where you could only see the top of his face like how rob wants to wear his lower face mask it would be like the fence do you think that they ever considered trying that like when they were playing casinos and nineties they were like all right we got to do what we got to do well i'm guessing the one brother thought about it when he was recording with charles manson so yes uh i will say so then they have the cousin their cousin mike love and then just al dijardin who i don't know what their relationship is but mike love just let you know is the uncle of famous minnesota timberwolf i don't think there are famous minnesota timberwolves they suck kevin

[46:00]love that is his uncle this is where i felt like the the mental health tie-in from uh you're leading rob because i know kevin has been vocal about his um his approach to mental health and mental wellness and clearly this is a thing that their family has had to think about because they were all related so i i was i thought about that a lot listening to this album i thought about kevin love because he's been vocal about you know you don't have to be you can be a famous person you can be a successful person and still you know have to be a successful person and still you know have to be a successful person and still you know have to be a successful person and still you know have to be a tackle tackle demons in your mind so i i thought it was uh interesting for me to think about as i listened to the album so let's get into the first song wouldn't it be nice awesome i gotta tell you awesome so i guess my problem listening to this album was i can never not start with the first track right so if i i have to start with you gotta stop talking yeah we gotta stop talking we hit the drum you're just like oh this is a nice pleasant song what's nothing

[47:05]it's so good so is this song just about him being horny as hell i mean is that what it's like or am i dumb well every song written by a man is about them being horny it doesn't matter like that's how music works but uh he's talking about it in a nice sweet way yeah like you can't do things when you're 15 to 18 and then you know when you're 20 you can't i mean it's kind of about looking ahead you're always looking ahead to what's next wouldn't this be nice wouldn't it be nice to not have your kids bugging you all the time they're just off at college you can do whatever you want i mean wouldn't that be nice right now no you got a five and an eight year old and you got to take care of them i digress it's so funny though because when you're like 12 or whatever you're like oh man wouldn't it be nice if i was married to somebody and they like have to kiss me whenever i say it you know what is that fucked up now that i say that out loud like that sounds

[48:01]like it's really messed up if you think about it i think i need therapy this song is awesome it has to be one of the best opening songs on any album we're gonna listen to but if you listen to the lyrics is it really like rob matt aaron you could answer is it that nice yeah it's that nice yes i love being married it's that nice there we go there we go being married is very good i think it's great i don't i'm not jealous at all about russ going on a number of bumble days i love my wife she's the best i made the right decision 13 years ago i don't mind that she doesn't respect me because i do a music podcast when i don't know anything about music wouldn't it be nice if i could see other people naked in person and not online all right my wife's always asking to listen to this podcast obviously i'm crossing this episode off yeah oh it's so weird pet sounds didn't get on there yeah it's strange like they're gonna be like what about number two pet sounds i was looking at the list yeah nobody cares

[49:03]difficulties yeah rob missed it up again two way rob parked his car too way far away from the wi-fi ah you still believe in me aaron is brian wilson's voice like the falsetto kind of a one-of-a-kind or how do you look at his voice the way he sings that's a good question i mean in terms of falsetto voices my favorite is eddie kendrick's of the temptations but he's saying in falsetto like almost exclusively so in terms of like blending it i don't know what like we'll figure out when we get to number six but i i think it's similar to marvin gaye and the way he kind of blends ranges i don't think it's as powerful as marvin's but i mean he's very flexible in terms of going through ranges and actually speaking wise i was talking to my lady tonight who has a doctorate in music and she said if i were still teaching voice i would use this song as a warm-up for for kids uh to learn how to sing because it's a perfect vocalist and it's also a beautiful melody

[50:05]so you have a bm right i have a bm yeah that is correct old movement and your wife has a doctorate yeah she has a dma i also have an m do you feel like a do you feel like a straight-up sucker because your wife is more educated than you in music and you suck oh yeah totally 100 all day long that's why i had to bring her up because she was the person who had a better thought about this song than i did guess what rosie you're off the podcast your wife is on the podcast now we should start a new podcast called like bet middler did it better get aaron's wife on instead we don't we don't need aaron anymore if he's yes if i thought we were getting the highest educated musical professional and that's not the case in my household you are not you you wanted the best well they didn't fucking more educated she drives the car she drives the motorcycle that's where i live that's not me again if you read these titles as like a book it's super depressing

[51:08]wouldn't it be nice you still believe in me that's not me very touchy feeling yep yeah now i read that this was the only song where the majority of the instruments were actually played by the band members and not the wrecking crew that the other band that was brought in uh-huh that makes sense that's why it sounds so simple right it's just like space out like minimalist kind of that's the thing is like comparing this to the beatles like i get that this album influenced the beatles and made them want to make sergeant pepper but there's so many tracks where i'm just like next like when i was listening to this i'm just like skip skip skip i i they just don't grab me like those beatles but this album was kind of brought on because of rubber soul is what i read yeah i did a bunch of research trying to figure it out not that much but you know the the rubber soul was kind of the

[52:00]first album where you could talk about your feelings and don't have to talk about the bubble gum and and uh you know high school stuff and that's what i heard brian wilson was like oh i can't talk about my feelings right and so then he he said let's let me go to the studio and start doing this so i mean you know the the musicality probably came from uh you know the sergeant pepper the musicality probably came from brian wilson stuff here but kind of the concepts came from the beatles so you know it's kind of a a wicked web you weave here between these two albums i think wow weaving wicked webs my thing with this album is yeah you you i mean because of where they sit on the list because of where they sit in chronological proximity you can't talk about pet sounds without talking about rubber soul and sergeant pepper and you're right matt as we talk more about rubber soul i think i might have liked that better as a kid than sergeant pepper but the thing that i'm thinking about is sergeant pepper came at the height of the beatles fame when they were trying to get away

[53:01]from fame and it was fucking them up to be famous and there's so little to me relatively there's so little sincerity on sergeant pepper whereas this album to me like pet sounds is so sincere and i think that at least on this album the beach boys do sincerity far better than than the beatles they're cutting the vein from 66 onward right yeah exactly and so that to me is what's great about this album is is that just full-on yeah i mean cutting the vein you got it right matt so but does it is that the reason it didn't sell so well you know every all probably all the heavy yeah all the heavy musicians say yeah how great how great is that how great the album is right but it did not have commercial success outside of a couple i also i mean i wondered if it was like a british wait wait wait matt matt that was a really smart thing to say that was matt's smart comment of the week oh that's some smart shit oh yeah all right there we go i made it so i had to play did you put a sitar on there i think you put a sitar in there

[54:04]robbie shankar play that was that george who was playing that one robbie shankar the last the last week i went to india for a couple days so i'm playing a song so this is a song called don't talk put your head on my shoulder can you imagine writing a song about not talking next this is a weird song this is just like a rebound song where like he's just there for whatever woman broke up with some dude like have some self-respect right you don't need to just be the rebound guy come on this is i would be the rebound album gets a little ladies if you're listening i will be a rebound guy i'll listen to about how bad that guy was oh this these drums this is my shit right here i'm waiting for the day and i gotta say about these drums so this is my first excuse on this podcast to talk about one of my favorite albums of all time which is moaning by art blakey and the jazz messengers and i think that initial drum sound

[55:00]reminds me so much of the drum thunder suite on moaning by our jazz messengers which i know i know i absolutely have to believe that brian wilson had heard in his life and that's rosie's left field take of the week oh that's exactly right that's exactly right if i had to have another fucking conversation about art blake in the take five messengers i'm just so sick of this shit already jesus christ every minute i'm awake people are talking to me about art blake and the take five bull boys or whatever you say you think there's a bizarro world where art blake has a podcast with his friends where they're talking about us i just want to be clear that it's art blakey with a y on the end in case he's listening i think in case other art blakey fans are listening but those drums are blakey there's zero percent chance he's still alive by the way i don't think he's all right let's go away for a while i mean does this sound like i get that brian wilson was young

[56:01]but this literally sounds like songs i would write when i was in junior high i think speaking of junior high i think i think when you bring up junior high it started me making me think you know the beach boys maybe could have been considered a boy band at some point we know the beatles were kind of a boy band at first now the beach boys actually have the name boy in the name of their band yeah so i started wondering who are the actual greatest boy bands of all time and that would have to include and you have to include the name boy in the name of the group so i'm going to give you guys a list of them if that's all right no i got my number one me too rob rob if you want to go to our other playlist i think and i have matt and i are going to be on the same page here i know it and i mean i the first one is the backstreet boys rob cue up everybody by the backstreet put it on here i thought it's a good i mean this is a good song like i can't front this is a good song yeah i love this i love this beginning but when you hear like but when you hear this next to the beach boys you're like oh

[57:02]this is entirely but isn't i mean what about isn't my better song i put on the extended version why does anybody need an extended version of this song it makes sense all right here we've so but yeah right there's no bruno mars without this like this is i love the idea of bruno mars sitting in his room being like oh man i should go into retail and then hearing the sound of being like no i should be a musician so clearly clearly the backstreet boys are on the list but the number two option is this is where it's going to be embarrassingly how much how little i know about music because this band is sold this group has sold hundreds of millions of albums but never heard of them the pet shop up pet shop boys do you guys know this band oh yeah no i do russ i

[58:04]know a lot about music it's an 85 just say another number of their song another song title there's all right the next the next band for your i'm listening pleasure classic the next band for your listening pleasure is one that would probably be a great rob karaoke band the oakridge boys with god damn to go from the backstreet boys to the pet shop boys to the oakridge boys is a wild trip you sent me a list of these songs and i was like what the hell is russ gonna talk about so the oakridge boys are pretty good they've got great beards and everything but i don't know if they're the best boy band ever do you think that the guy with the super low voice for the oakridge boys ever found any other work besides singing elvira do you think he went to like other bands he's like check this out and they're like oh god damn that's just what we need all right the next one is rob if you want

[59:06]to jump forward to about a minute 30 left in the song the ghetto boys the ghetto boys i've been wasting such a good song yeah so where do the ghetto boys rank up there for you guys we got a few more left i mean this song is just so far the ghetto boys are number one i gotta say i was playing scarface at home the other day and uh he uses the f word uh it is a derogatory slang term and that was really troubling for me i was like i can't play scarface at home anymore the next one maybe one that you guys have forgot about somewhere down the road but how about heavy d and the boys oh heavy d and the boys this was my yes i just love the theme of this song he was like he was like you know what we found love now what are we gonna do like what do you mean what are you gonna do like this is this is the

[60:02]goal of every artist ever is finding love what do you do what do you mean what are you gonna do he's really i mean like heavy d is really rapping on this track like he's letting it go oh it's so good so heavy heavy d and the boys spell it with the z not a not an s at the end the other band is number two on the list boys to men boys to men but motown philly rob boys to men so boys to men obviously i love it but i'm always embarrassed that someone's gonna see that it's one of my favorite things on spotify so i can't ever i can never like my spotify to any of my dating accounts because i don't want people to know that i'm you'll make love or whatever that song is is one of my i'll make love to you you'll make love to me yes you want that to be the surprise i'll make love to me like i want me to and i will not let go hold myself tight boys meant a little bit strong

[61:03]when they went with the z and boys and also the two the number two the roman numerals or is that too much anything boys and men did anything boys and men did is intrinsically correct and that's why for a while junior high i tried to dress like boys to men which was tough in my all caucasian middle school in minnesota but i pulled it off and you know why i pulled it off it's because i was the deep voice guy well speaking of the all caucasian rap group we're gonna go to say maybe the number one group for the boy band in a rap version how about the bc boys i'm sorry for joking oh here we go this is who i hit this girl i'm sorry that i have a podcast and i was talking to my friends about wife swapping and i didn't talk to you about it first and that's disrespectful this i gotta say this might be the best song we've heard yet period so good i mean if we just happen to

[62:00]record pet sounds and revolver on the same night nobody knew about it and you were to argue this is the best song i wouldn't argue with you i wouldn't argue back easy easy easy greatest video of all time all right so what do you guys think i'm going to go ahead and i'm going to go matt aaron rob what what is your favorite boy band i gotta go with heavy d and the boys i think the idea that somebody the idea that somebody could just have a nickname that talks about how fat they are was revolutionary to me when i was growing up i was like god dang it i missed my calling i should have been called like you know heavy rob but then i need to get some boys but i it's it's great and it's an awesome song oh heavy d and the boys is the correct answer now for me it's definitely beastie boys uh that's what i thought of right away when you started this game and so yeah beastie boys top of the list great boy band aaron quick quibble with rob's uh best video of all time um that tells me that rob has not seen the janet jackson anytime any place video but i will say that uh boys men are the best boys band of all time great answers

[63:05]great answers but as you guys know sometimes we got to go off the board it's like we're at the swimming pool russ is going off the board baby he's going off all right we got to go off the board the greatest boy band ever is the soggy bottom boys i'm a man oh yes when i think of boy bands this is often the song i'm thinking of the first one the original boy bands kim blake nelson just getting it done so george clooney is not in this band right oh he is i think he is right absolutely is this this is definitely george clooney's voice i know it you can hear the er right here i've seen michael clayton a thousand times all right that's a good michael clayton joke god you know that's the saddest thing we've heard on this

[64:00]episode you've seen michael clayton that's sadder than anything the beach boys ever wrote hey thanks for swapping wives with me well time to watch michael clayton it's friday night we'll end on sunday night sounds great oh and you also have to sit there while i edit a podcast and ask you what do you think of this joke it doesn't it doesn't quite sound like the horns and the flutes with sloop john b so maybe we should touch on that one rob all right so sloop john b originally a sailor shanty or something right yeah and it was done by the kingston trio right and there's a great part in that documentary we were talking about earlier where al de jardin was like oh yeah i brought this to brian wilson said we should do it and brian wilson kind of rearranged it and then on the day they recorded it they didn't invite al in to sing it all right so it was just more brian wilson just doing it but man this song is so good but it did i think it

[65:03]affected me when i was younger to not want to go on sailing ever because i was like it's the worst trip he's ever been on you're a terrible i actually i could talk about that a little bit i have only been sailing i don't know if you know this rob i've been sailing exactly one time in my life and it was on rob's sailboat on late seven and it is one of the coldest days of my life it was a strange day we went out yeah the weather weather got bad i had to turn around you can't like you can't just turn around on the sailboat turns out that shit was cool yeah if you're under 300 pounds you do not want to go sailing with me that's a huge mistake that you made you should never trust a huge guy going into cold water it's a it's a disaster i'm curious though rob you mentioned that al jardin brought this song idea and then he didn't even get invited to help record it or put it together but when i watched a documentary about this he didn't really seem to care and when you listen to all these other beach boys and all these all these artists they all just kind of praised

[66:03]brian wilson and it's almost the credit he deserves kind of comes from his contemporaries giving him the credit and not feeling jealous about it right like all these people are calling him a genius they're fine with him running everything and if he wasn't so amazing at what he did nobody would ever put up with that shit right yeah he must have been great right oh i there's no doubt i mean when you listen to them talk about that shit you're like oh my god i'm brian wilson every single person says he is a genius he is a genius he's a genius he's such a genius and a tragic figure all at the same time it's almost like he wasn't made for these times damn aaron every other song sucks this song's asshole okay period end of story every other song is dog shit if you took a hot dog bun and fill it up with dog fresh dog shit that is sergeant pepper that is bob dylan that is brian wilson that is brian wilson that is brian wilson

[67:00]every other song on the list okay that is except for heavy d and the boys this did they make the list rob you should write four words for books four every other book sucks shit a huge part of a huge part of living life i always tell my girls i'm like a giant part of living life is just having confidence if you can do whatever you do with an extraordinary amount of confidence you're way ahead of the game and this i can say with the utmost confidence is the greatest song ever and i'm sure hey brian love the song it's me paul the french horn hey is that a harpsichord in this song i love it now we we we realize at the beginning of this episode it's not hard to do this round at the end like we nailed it and we didn't even practice it so i am kind of like the brian wilson of this podcast you're 100 brian will do this pocket what a moment the french horn had in 1966 right

[68:00]donna wayne knows and for no one i mean That's got to be like the highlight. There's like two French horns. Maybe like Beethoven's third or whatever. There's like two French horns. Rob, what is it about this song that makes it stand out for you so much? To me, this is just kind of another sappy love song. Why is it the number one song ever for you? It's ultimately singable. I'll never skip it. I'll never say, oh, I don't want to listen to this song right now. The way it starts and then it somehow builds from there. And then just when you think like, oh, this song is like, it's everything I think love should have been when I was younger, right? When I was younger and I wanted to date, I was like, I want to find somebody who I couldn't even imagine what I would do without you in my whole life. And that is who I found in my wife. And it's great. But, and then you hit the end and it has the ultimate thing I've loved in music more than anything else my whole life around. Get the fuck out of here. That's what I'm talking about. When I was in music class in fourth grade, we'd do rounds.

[69:00]I would get pumped. Row, row, row your boat. Row, row, row your boat. Row, row, row your boat. God only knows what I do without you. Row, row, row your boat. Set me down the street. Guys, this is our Patreon. We just do rounds and people can join in and we'll leave a space. We'll be like, okay, you're the fourth one to come in. Okay. Episode two, row, row, row your boat. Part two, because it's the only other song. Russell, when's your, uh, you gotta have your top five, uh, rounds of all time, right? Like the songs that have a round in them. Oh my God. What's kind of a move to call me out when I don't have that prepared tonight, huh? Hey, if anyone's going to ask people, if anyone on this podcast is going to ask people unprompted questions, it's going to be me. I do not expect to be asked unprompted questions. Like, I don't even look at you guys in the zoom call. I stare ahead at my notes the whole time. I'm not prepared for that. The whole point was, is there is no other songs that have rounds in them that would

[70:01]be anywhere close. And I'll tell you what, if you out there can think of a song that has a round in it, that's not row, row your boat or God only knows, shoot me and eat, shoot me in Gmail at, uh, Beck did it better at gmail.com or hit us up on Twitter at Beck did at Beck did it better on Twitter. Rob, can we pull up, can we pull up that song down in the boondocks or whatever? There's a round in that song down in the boondocks or whatever. Let's pull up down in the boondocks. Boondocks do a search for boondocks. There it is. I don't know. Oh, Billy Joe Royal, right? No, no, no, no. It's some country band. Billy Joe Royal. Oh no. Fuck. No, no. You guys are morons. Let's get to the real one. No, no, no, no. Yeah. This is not like down in the ring. Down the boondocks.

[71:00]Well, we're just doing what you said. Could you please pull up little, little big town boondocks and tell me this isn't a better round than anything the beach boys ever did. We're going to listen to the whole fucking thing if we have to, for me to prove that I'm the best musician on this pod. Fuck, I played the alto sax two years. Okay, here we go. There it is. We're going to listen to the whole thing. Rob can pick out the part that was, there's the round. This is clearly not the best position of this song. Oh, you hold up, Rosie. You will change your mind. Okay. So all you guys out there who were just typing in boondocks, little big town on the Gmail going to need you to click that X close out, put it to your draft son. Don't send it. You're going to hear the, you're going to, this is no question. The greatest round in the history of rounds other than row your boat. So this song better than row your boat. God, they're going to put that on their album cover. Little big town does it best.

[72:01]The next podcast, Russell and row your boat star of Beck did it better. And the round Patrion podcast. Well, after this song, it might be former star of Beck did it better. Who was kicked off the podcast for making people listen to three minutes of down in the boondocks by little big town. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Do you know what around is? You guys are not. I can't wait for this shit. I'm just going to sit back and drink my cocktails while you guys listen to this shit. Can I write music? This makes me think I could write songs. It's definitely rhyme. Oh, they rhyme feet with Creek. Not a rhyme, by the way.

[73:01]Do not talk about feet on this podcast. Don't do it. Now I'm starting to wonder if there may not be around in this. I think there is one, but I could be wrong. I might start. Well, we got this far. We got it. This is cool. My hard drive hates me anyway. Here we go. Here we go. I'm a musical genius here. Fuck Paul and John. Oh, not quite yet. Coming up later. I could be wrong. It's not good when you Google boondocks and round and it brings up some sort of round neck t-shirt. Aren't they all round necks? I can't even see how much time's left. I'm concerned right now. A good two minutes left. We're all right. We're going to get to that fucking round. You got a chance. I forgot about John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt.

[74:01]All right. If you're putting an ad, if you're adding us on Twitter, could need you to close that up. Put it to your drafts. We've got John Jingleheimer Schmidt. Meanwhile, a little big town is suing us for millions of dollars for copyright infringement here. Oh, we're doing this in an educational way. Like, if this doesn't sit up around, what would? Here we come. Oh, it's going to have to be at the end of the song or else I really fucked it up. Oh, you think? We've still got a minute 30 left. I'm not editing any of this, by the way. It's all spinning. Oh, okay. Minute 20 left. They're like, shit, the song's too short. We've got to put in a round. You get a round. You get a round. You get a round. You get a round. You get a round. You get a round. Here we go. Okay, so that's good. So I'm going to push pause on this right now. Let's be. Oh, keep going. Oh, I thought. Are we done? I will quit this podcast if you don't hit play right now. I will quit and never allow you to post a podcast ever again. Okay, well, I lost my place.

[75:00]I got to start over with the song. That's fine. We can listen to the song again. Church on Sunday morning. You get a line. You get a line. I get a pole. I get a pole. We'll go fishing in the crawfish. Down in the box. For the wrong side of the night. Church on Sunday morning. That's not a round. That's a callback. It's got a copy. It's a callback. That is a round. This is like saying yellow submarine is a round when they're like, get the yellow. They're singing. They're all starting from a different point. That's a round. Okay, so listen to this song. That's a fucking round. You might be right, bro. That is clearly a round. You hear it right there. So wait, I need a little time. I'm going to put in something to put in earlier in the podcast. Hey, this is Rob coming at you.

[76:01]Listen, you're going to want to hit that 15 second ahead button on your podcast device. You're going to hit that about 10 times. I would say we're going to want to get up past where we talk about what is around. That is a round. That's clearly a round. I think you might be right. They're just singing. No, they're just singing. It's not a round. They're just copying each other. But then they all end at the same time. If one person starts the song and another person starts the song, you're going to get a round. You're going to get a round. You're going to get a round. You're going to get a round. If one person starts the same lyric a few seconds later, that's a fucking round. Well, this is what happens when you guys give me unprompted questions that aren't on my notes. I don't feel bad at all. Russ, you're right. That song is equally good to this song. I mean, oh, oh, oh, so good. I think we've done this to death, but I do like the way the lyrics kind of unspool. Like, if you should ever leave me, life would still go on and figure out that, like, life would go on, but it wouldn't be worth living for him. Like, I think that would be really weird. Okay, just listen to this and we'll stop.

[77:01]What song are we listening to? Are you serious? Are you serious? God only knows. It has a round at the end of it. You guys ever heard this song, Boondocks by Little Big Town? No. It's still at the end of the round. All right, here it is, Russell. Now, you might not know what a round is, Russell, but this is it right here. You know, they had originally... That's not different at all than what we just listened to. To be fair, that's pretty similar. It's just kind of... Aaron, Aaron, is there any difference from what we just listened to than Boondocks by Little Big Town? I don't think there's some difference. But I think they're very similar ideas. It's likely that the Boondocks have heard God Only Knows, if I had to guess. Oh, hey, sweetie. You seem depressed. What's going on? Oh, the podcast broke up. Oh, really? What'd you guys break up about? Well, we were listening to songs with rounds and we couldn't agree what a round is. We haven't put on John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt. Yeah, that's why. Sweetie, have you listened to that Boondocks song? That's got a round in it.

[78:01]All right. If we want to cancel... If we want to cancel... Episode 71, Kid A, and just do John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, I am totally down with that. I know there's an answer. Yep. Anybody got anything to say? I like that kind of bass clarinet sound. Yeah. Bow. I guess a few of these here in the middle where it's just... Yep. My untrained ear, they just kind of all blend together. Here today... I don't like this one. This reminds me more of Beach Boys I'm used to, though. You know... Yeah. I agree, Rob. Go to the beach in my hot rod, yeah, now. This is not the Beach Boys I'm used to either. None of these songs on this album, is there one song about the beach? No. It's false advertising, right? Yep. And really, in the pandemic world, a lot of us are missing trips to the beach.

[79:02]Oh. But for those of you who are living in the Midwest and don't want to take a flight to the coast to see Aaron out in Oakland, you still need that beach time. But Russ... What can we do about that? There can't be anywhere we can go where we could find a beach that we could relax on. There is, actually, Rob. It's great you asked that. I want to recommend that you take your family trip to Cole's Resort on Big Turtle Lake in Bemidji, Minnesota. Cole's Resort is one of Minnesota's historic resorts and has been providing families with the chance to make a lifetime of memories since the 1960s. Cole's Resort has 20 cabins, and guess what, Rob? They have air conditioning in every single one of them for you. Oh, that's big. Now, what are some of your guys' favorite things to do at the beach? Aaron, when you go to the beach, what do you love to do? I love to paddleboard. You know what, Aaron? If you were to go to Cole's, you don't even have to pack your paddleboard. They have free paddleboards for you to use up there at the beach. Matt, what do you like to do at the beach? Well, you know, I'm not really a sand guy.

[80:01]I really like to kind of hang out on, like, a pontoon or a boat and just get out on the water. Matt, Matt, Cole's Resort up at Bemidji, Minnesota has boats and pontoons for your rental. All sorts of... Oh! You don't even need to hook up your trailer. You just go up there, and they'll help you out. Rob, what do you love to do at the beach? I like to wife swap. And just this week only, if you're at Cole's Resort and you say you're there for the wife swap, they'll give you 30% off. That's 30% off. Go up to the desk and say, I'm here for the wife swap. Rob, I also know that you love to be outside at the beach, but you don't want to get sunburned. For those of you who sunburn easily, they've got an indoor pool. And for those of you who can't stand... You're kids and need to get away for a few hours, you can stop in at Liar's Lounge Bar and Restaurant for a drink. Liar's Lounge! So when you get done listening to this album... I don't wife swap in there. When you get done listening to this album, and you need some beach time, and you need to get away from that wife swap, which you can't handle the second one either,

[81:02]reserve your cabin at Cole's Resort in Bemidji, Minnesota. That's K-O-H-L-S Resort. And tell the owners that Beck did it better. I'm sure the owners will be thrilled with the wife swap portion of this advertisement. Beck did it better, and I'm here for the wife swap. If they have somebody come up to them and say, wife swap, and they want a discount, we officially have the most successful podcast of all time. My life goal, I don't care if my kids start smoking meth and never go to college. If somebody goes to Cole's Resort and goes up to the thing and says, I'm here for the wife swap, I will feel like my life has been worth it. Everything I've done... Everything I've done has been leading up to that moment. Can you imagine Russ is scooping ice cream and drinking 100 beers or whatever you did the other week when you were up there, and somebody comes in and goes, I'm here for the wife swap, and Russ just immediately texts us?

[82:00]Yes. He just knows. I'm sure the owner would have no problem clicking on a button on that laptop of his and saying, oh, we'll definitely give you that 12% discount for the wife swap. Yeah. Oh, that's cabin nine. All right. I just wasn't made for these times. All right. Touchy-feely Brian Wilson. I do love this song, though, and it doesn't seem like it's that popular on the Amazon streaming. Aaron and Matt, one thing you guys were talking about earlier is how this is kind of more cutting open a vein or getting personal than maybe a Beatles album. And I think you're right. If you're looking, it's like he's just looking for a place to fit in. He's looking for where he belongs, right? And aren't we all kind of looking for that to some extent? Yeah. And I think the Beatles probably wrote about that, but not so directly the way Brian Wilson was willing to say. Sometimes I feel very... Very sad, which is the literal most human emotion you could communicate in the Beatles world. I was tucked away around it, but Brian was like, I'm just going to say it. Can you imagine a band like Kiss or like Motley Crue writing a song like this where

[83:01]they're like, sometimes I get sad, don't know what to do. I would like to hear Motley Crue cover it. I'd love to hear Motley Crue cover this. So good. All right. We should talk about Motley Crue in one of these episodes. All right. Next one. Pet Sounds. Is this the worst title track of any album? In the top 10. Forever. Hello. This sounds like one of those like surf music instrumentals, right? It is an instrumental. This was the one I talked about earlier where there are 22 instruments, 52 musicians on this song. Wow. Oh, wow. I don't even know 52 people that would want to talk to me, let alone that would play instruments in a small room with me. You could hire them. We haven't released this podcast yet. You could hire 52 people to do it. Exactly. That's what Brian Wilson did. We definitely can. Once we get that sponsorship money from Coles Resort up in Bemidji, Minnesota. We'll be paying out so much in discounts, though. Right?

[84:00]God dang wife swap. Russ, everybody who's up here swapping wives. I'm broke. Cabin one, cabin four, cabin five, cabin 12. The upper level of the big cabin. Oh, my God. The lower level of the big cabin. It's just constant wife swapping. I'm not making any money. I put cabin five with cabin seven. Turns out they're actually married. I'm going to wife swap. Oh, they're mad at me, too. Yeah. The people rowing the canoe, the people using the kayaks, they're all swapping. I'm not making any money. And the final song on the album. And real quick, I'm going to jump out. This is the final song, right? Because I'm seeing a bunch of other. No, there's one more. But the great thing about it is we get to go through and listen to the stereo mix after this. So we get to go track by track. We did the mono mix, then we can do the stereo mix. We can do the mono. Wait, wait, wait. We don't have to do a whole nother podcast on this. Yes, we do. Yeah, we got to do it twice. There's the mono and the stereo. We got to do them both. So which one do I have to put both headphones in for? Hey, Russ. This is Brian Wilson. And I just wanted to tell you that I'm so sad.

[85:02]Well, see you later. I mean, literally be like every day, wake up to a voicemail from Brian Wilson being like, man, life sucks. Well, off you go. All right. This is the first single off this album. Does that blow your mind? What song is this, Rob? Caroline No. Caroline No. Why are there so many songs about Caroline? All right, Russ. What's your top five songs about Caroline? I don't have five of them, but it feels like there's a lot of songs about Caroline. Sweet Caroline. There's a good one called Caroline by a Portland rapper named Amine. I like that one. I think that's such a pretty name. Let's buck it out. It is a pretty name. And it's three syllables. The big thing is, too, you can rhyme Caroline with a lot. You know what I mean? Like, that's why there's not so many songs about Robert. What are you going to rhyme Robert with? Robert? I'm not sure. I don't think there are any rhymes with Caroline. I can tell you, Robert does rhyme with slobberts, because that was my nickname for a long

[86:02]time in school. Oh, guess what? Does blobberts also fit in there? Yes, it does. I believe, doesn't Outkast also sing about Caroline in one of their songs? She believes in pulling the word. Yep. It's in roses. Yeah, right. What if it's the same Caroline, and she's just got a way about her, and it doesn't matter what year she still lives on? Oh, I love this kind of thinking. I love this way of thinking. There's just been one Caroline in all of these songs. I love it. It's like the redheaded witch in the Game of Thrones TV show. She lives for hundreds of years, and then it actually turns out she's this old, ugly man. Oh, I love thinking about this kind of shit. I will say- Let's spark up a J and really get into it. Listening to Caroline, yeah. Listening to all his albums, it does make me think we should probably take LSD when we do this podcast sometime. We need more drugs on this podcast. Although, I will say Brian Wilson did take LSD, and he said for the next year afterwards he had auditory hallucinations. Which is, it's a hard word to say, so I'm going to take that again.

[87:01]Auditory hallucinations. And that would also be a bummer if your job was a musician and producer. That would suck. That would make things tough for you. But the fact that that was the first single off this album when you literally have the greatest piece of art ever made in God Only Knows is right there, and this song sucks ass compared to it, is absolutely ridiculous and upsetting. Hang on to your ego. This song's so different. Than the other songs we've listened to on this album. Same song. By the way, I do want to give a shout out to the album cover of this one. It makes the Beach Boys look like they're literally junior high boys that are on some field trip where they're out visiting the goat farm. But this is probably the end of the big record company calling the shots, right? Because they said, okay, we'll give you all the money you want to go do your thing, but we're going to do the album cover. It's going to be called Pet Sounds.

[88:00]We've got to put pets in there, right? Yeah. We've got to be pets. Yeah. Yeah. It makes sense. It's got to make sense. You can't have an album cover that doesn't make sense with the name of the album. So, yeah. It kind of seems like the end of that era with this album here. Until DMX albums and Snoop Dogg albums. That is the end of Pet Sounds. Side two, after Sloop John B, or no, God Only Knows started Sloop. Yeah. After Sloop John B, that whole side was 17 and a half minutes. It's nothing. God, they go so fast. Wouldn't you? Wouldn't you guys say, beyond the instrumentals, wouldn't you say that the Beach Boys are most known for their harmonies? Yeah. Yeah. I think the logical question is, did Beck do harmonies better than the Beatle, or better than the fucking Beach Boys? So, I started wondering. A different band? Did Beck do harmonies better than the Beach Boys? It's just a band that just does Beach Boys songs, but they put swear words in it.

[89:03]Round, round, get around. I fucking get around. I fucking get around. So, I did a little background search, and I came across a couple really great songs. So, Rob, if you could fire up Blue Moon by Beck. She's real fucking fine, my 409. She's real fucking fine. So, I started wondering. Fucking gigantic. Wouldn't you guys agree? Everybody's gone fucking. Fucking gigantic. USA. The goddamn USA. That actually works. Yeah, that would work. Hey, write that down. I don't know how Rob's going to edit this. I'm going to try again one more time. I'm not editing. I'm not going to say the Beatles. These great jokes? No way. The Beach Boys. Okay. Seriously, no. Beyond the instrumentals, wouldn't you guys say that the Beach Boys are most known for their harmonies?

[90:02]Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Yes. Yes. So, the logical question for this podcast has to be, did Beck do harmonies better than the Beatles? Did Beck do harmonies better than the Beatles? The fucking Beach Boys. I mean. The fucking Beach Boys. Wish they all could be fucking California girl. All right. We're going to do it one more time. No. I know. These are good. Being true to your bitching soul. So, I did a little background search. That's background search. Hashtag background. I feel like I'm losing my mind. Find it on our Twitter page. Oh, my God. My friend Ryan gave me the idea of a background search. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. And I came across some great songs. Rob, if you could pull up Blue Moon by Beck and jump ahead about 30 seconds or 320 remaining and tell me, do you guys hear the Beach Boys in this? Oh, yeah.

[91:00]Oh, yeah. Oh, totally. Yeah. So, I hear the Beach Boys in that. I hear the Beach Boys in that. Do you guys think the Beach Boys did it better than Beck or not? I do. I'm going to go Beach Boys on this one. I'm going to go Beach Boys on this one. Rob, who do you think did it better? I got to say. I got to say. I like the Beach Boys better. I don't know. There's something about when they hit those harmonies. It really is pretty magical. But I have to say, finding a part of Beck that sounds like the Beach Boys, you've really outdone yourself with your background research. You have. Well, the good thing is, this was not my proposal of what Beck did better. I just thought Beck was influenced by the Beach Boys. I have a different proposal for you guys. Oh, you're lying in the weeds again. Did you guys notice that in the Sgt. Pepper's album, there was a number of actual Becks? There were actual pet sounds. There were chickens, and there were other pet sounds. What? Two, three. Right. However, this album, which is titled Pet Sounds, I don't think I actually heard any

[92:04]sounds from pets. Did you guys? I don't recall. No, I don't recall. However, Rob. I did have a dog once say to me, God only knows what I'd do without you. But that was pretty special. God only knows. However, Rob, if you could cue up the song Jackass by Beck, and fast forward to the end of the song. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. With about 25 seconds to go, a jackass clearly here. This is Johnny Knoxville. Welcome to Jackass. Jesus. Where did you get this, Russell? We don't have to have a debate on whether this was truly a jackass or not. That was definitely a jackass. So I think you guys would have to admit, when it comes to pet sounds, Beck did it better. Can't argue. Once again.

[93:00]Do we just end the podcast now or what? I mean, how are we going to get through this? I mean, how are we going to get through this? I mean, how are we going to get through this? I mean, how are we going to get through this? I mean, how are we going to get through this? I mean, how are we going to get any better than that? You guys don't even know how much time I have to spend to come up with something to defend my original thesis here. You think putting swear words into Beach Boys songs is easy, Russell? You think that's just something that comes along no problem? That's hard. Some guy just sends you a Zoom link and you're there. Yeah. Beach Boys. Makes me think I just wasn't fucking made for these fucking times. All right. So that was pet sounds. I'm not editing any of that. I think that's all. I really do. We're going to put out what we call the late night cut where it's where we all lose our goddamn minds. Our final rating system for pet sounds by the Beach Boys coming in in 1966 is rolling. Well-toned is perfect at number two. It didn't get rolling boned. It's too low. It should have been number one. Rolling grown too high up on the list should have been lower, which in this case means a higher number.

[94:00]Listen, it all makes sense. It's great times. What do you think, Russell? I'm going to give this a rolling groan. I think I said this at the beginning of the podcast. If I'm going to hear a Beach Boys album and I don't get to hear any of the Beach Boys songs that I grew up loving, I don't think it should be this high on the list. And I think it's kind of a sad album and it's not that fun to listen to. I think it's brilliant in terms of what Brian Wilson did with it and putting together all this musical, bringing in all these different instruments and putting together that wall of sound or whatever you want to call it. That Phil Spector was a part of or changing the way music was put together. But I don't enjoy listening to it that much. I think it's too high. Rolling grown. Aaron, what do you think? Rolling well-toned, rolling boned or rolling grown? I think given what we've heard so far on the list, I got to say rolling boned. I, strangely enough, really enjoy this album more than I enjoy Sergeant Pepper. I don't think by the time we get through the whole list, I'm going to call it one of

[95:02]all time. But I'm going to say rolling boned because I like I like listening to it better. Did you agree with Russell this CD or this album is a major bummer to listen to? I didn't feel like it was a bummer. I don't know. I mean, there are definitely bummer themes, but overall, I didn't feel like it's a major bummer. I don't know. And that's because you were attractive when you were younger. Okay. You didn't have any of these problems. At no point were you like, oh, I need a place to fit in at the lunch table at middle school lunch. I wasn't made for these times. Yeah. You were totally. Made for those times. Yeah. Rob and I are sitting over at the lunch table with no people at them. I didn't even know what your jeans were in middle school. Like, give me a break here, please. I don't even get how to say how did the tag on those jeans even get across there? It was so bizarre. I wasn't even allowed to have them. I wasn't cool enough. Why didn't my parents say, no, don't dress like crisscross at school. You will get beat up, Rob. Do not do that.

[96:02]Have you tried to go to the bathroom in jeans that are on backwards? It's almost impossible. Yeah, that's hard. You always have to sit down. I had to do that washing my hands trick so many times. All right. Oh, my God. Water got on my jeans. By the way, pull that off again today, guys. Great trick. If you ever pee your pants by accident. Matt, what do you think? Rolling well-toned, rolling boned, or rolling grown? I'm going to go with hashtag rolling grown. I'm going to take a little different approach than Rosie. I get where he's coming from with the, you know, we've listened to two albums, and he would rate this one above it. I'd still rate Sergeant Pepper above it, but it doesn't feel like a number two album to me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably a generational thing where I just don't understand the importance of it because I wasn't there. The more I listen to it, the more I like it, the more I'm listening deeper to it, I guess. But overall, I think it's hashtag rolling grown. It's too high. You wonder if this album would be different if it was called Brian Wilson's Pet Sounds and not the Beach Boys. Because when you do, I mean, Russ is right.

[97:00]When you do listen to the Beach Boys, you want to hear some surfing, right? You want to hear some swearing. You want to hear about, you know, taking pictures of people at the beach without their knowledge. Like, that's a good thing. That's the kind of stuff I'm into and that I want to hear about. But really, though, when you know it's like, oh, this is Brian Wilson's Pet Sounds, you're like, okay, it's time to hear about why life sucks. There were no songs about taking pictures of people's feet at the beach. Not one. Not a single one. Or a wife slapping. Oh, this makes me think maybe I was listening to the remastered version. All right. Mono plus feet. Uh, you know, that's a good idea for our next episode. Uh, here's the deal. What's your final rating? My final rating is rolling Brian Wilson. Listen, he did the whole thing. Okay. He made the whole thing. I enjoyed the album. These songs have been stuck in my head. They've been stuck in the heads of the people around me. They've asked me to please stop playing these songs for him. And I tell him that God only knows is still, I believe the greatest song ever.

[98:02]Period. I can listen to it all day long. It just is like the most beautiful song of all time. And it's great. And now that is a pet sounds. That is a beach boys. This is the ultimate summary of it. You'll never find a better one anywhere online ever. Our next album is revolver by the Beatles. And it's going to be real interesting to hear what we have to say about that. I bet. All right, here we go. So we know that Brian Wilson, listen, there's one thing he loves. It's pet sounds. But my question is, can you guys identify some of these pet sounds? So here's how it's going to work. You're going to say your name. And then that's your buzzer. And then I'll call on you and you tell me what made that sound. Okay. Are you ready for this? Yep. All right. So we're going to start with a practice round and then we're going to do five. Okay. So practice round. Here we go. Matt. Matt, what do you think it is? Sounds like a seal. You know what, man? I'm going to give it to you. It's a sea lion seal. But I think, you know, that sea lions have ears and seals don't, and we don't need to

[99:03]get into that. All right. So everybody knows how to play the game. Okay. So here, what are these? Some of these pet sounds. Aaron. Aaron, what do you got? That is incorrect. Dummy. All right. Either one of you guys. Matt. Matt. Rhinoceros. Rhinoceros is incorrect. Russ, you want to try? Russ. Yes. No, it's not Russ. Oh, wait. What? What were you going to say? The, the, a hit track from the album kid a by that band. You played kid a band. You played the kid. I'm going to say the lead track on kid a by radio. There you go. Uh, that is incorrect. That was actually an alligator, an alligator. All right. Next one. Here we go. Pet sounds. So what made this sound?

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