Lauryn Hill: The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill (1998) (... and it’s a BANGER of an episode!)

[00:00]In 2020, four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums as decided by Rolling Stone magazine.

[00:05]This resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music, excoriated the order, and led us to making this podcast.

[00:11]We are far from experts, and we promise to do almost no research.

[00:14]All opinions are our own unless you disagree.

[00:17]Please sit back and enjoy Beck Did It Better.

[00:20]This is the miseducation of Lauryn Hill.

[00:23]All right, all right. Settle down, everybody.

[00:29]That's a long bell.

[00:30]All right, everybody. Settle down.

[00:31]Let me take attendance here real quick.

[00:33]Just say here if you're here.

[00:34]Russell?

[00:35]Here.

[00:36]Aaron?

[00:37]Here.

[00:38]It's my teacher mode.

[00:39]Matt?

[00:40]Here.

[00:42]All right.

[00:42]So you guys are all in this special class because the school has decided that you guys are a bunch of sick freaks.

[00:49]And you're hot for teacher.

[00:51]Okay?

[00:52]So I'm here for this after-school training class.

[00:55]I want to ask you, do you think this is hot?

[00:58]Oh, yeah. Do you think this is hot when I do this with my legs like this?

[01:01]Huh? You want to say something, you sick freaks out there?

[01:04]Oh, yeah.

[01:05]What the hell is happening?

[01:07]You're jumping sharp.

[01:10]Oh, what?

[01:12]How we got through the attendance and we didn't get one Bueller Bueller joke is beyond me.

[01:21]Well, I noticed you guys weren't exactly saying a lot during that to help me out.

[01:24]Roll call is supposed to come after.

[01:28]Roll call is supposed to come after.

[01:28]After the intro, Rob.

[01:29]After the intro.

[01:30]Yeah, that's true.

[01:31]All right.

[01:33]We already took roll call, but this is Beck Did It Better.

[01:35]Let me welcome you to, let me welcome, yeah, guess what?

[01:38]I am welcoming you to my co-host.

[01:39]This time I'm bringing you in.

[01:40]The co-host and I have already been here for about an hour.

[01:42]Let's say these are the three guys who have kept texting me this week separately,

[01:47]and they all asked me, what does that thing mean in the song?

[01:51]So I've had to explain that a couple times to the whole crew.

[01:55]I got Russ in Minnesota.

[01:57]Russ, how are you doing?

[01:58]Rob, I treat this podcast like my thesis.

[02:01]Well-written lists and Beck comparisons broken down into pieces.

[02:05]I introduce, then produce words so profuse.

[02:09]Oh my gosh, Russ.

[02:10]The lyrics are brilliant.

[02:12]I'm surprised.

[02:12]I'm not surprised.

[02:13]I'm shocked that you came up with it.

[02:14]Originals.

[02:15]Aaron in Oaktown, how are you doing?

[02:17]I'm doing great.

[02:18]I'm here.

[02:19]I'm impressed that Russell have managed to avoid you in his quotes from the album.

[02:24]Good job, Russell.

[02:25]Nice work.

[02:27]That didn't count.

[02:27]Edit that out.

[02:28]That didn't come out right.

[02:29]More editing for me.

[02:30]No.

[02:31]I'm going to edit that in, and it's also going to be the intro.

[02:33]Just that over and over for five minutes.

[02:34]I was going to make a joke about trying to sing along with this.

[02:36]That makes me sound really bad.

[02:37]I know.

[02:37]That messed that up.

[02:39]That's got to go.

[02:39]No, that's good.

[02:40]I'm going to reference it later.

[02:41]That has to go.

[02:42]I was trying to make a joke about trying to sing along with this album.

[02:45]You've got to bleep yourself out when you're in your own car.

[02:47]Damn it.

[02:47]I'm sorry, Russell.

[02:47]You're just saying your dad is proud of you.

[02:49]Matt, how are you doing?

[02:51]Great, Rob.

[02:52]Thanks for having me.

[02:53]Thank you for not saying anything controversial.

[02:55]All right, so let's get into it.

[02:59]You know what?

[03:01]We're going to start today, believe it or not, two weeks in a row.

[03:04]We've got a voicemail to the Beck line, 802-277-BECK.

[03:09]Oh, yeah, and I've got to push this button.

[03:13]Hey, it's my favorite Beck boys.

[03:15]It's Sarah from Minnesota.

[03:16]Had to call in with just a couple of things.

[03:19]Number one, we also do not own a microwave.

[03:25]So there are other people in the world that do not own microwaves.

[03:29]We enjoy heating things up in a toaster oven or on the stovetop,

[03:34]and we make popcorn in a Whirly Pop, old-fashioned.

[03:39]Nobody enjoys heating stuff up in a toaster oven.

[03:42]Wanted to call in.

[03:43]I'm content being single.

[03:44]And this is a little bit more serious, I guess.

[03:46]Just a little bit of constructive criticism.

[03:50]In the last couple of episodes, I've noticed,

[03:54]a huge increase, a rapid increase of saying that a song bangs.

[04:01]And while when you first started using that phrase,

[04:07]I thought, wow, that makes them sound really like they know what they're talking about.

[04:12]And I love that.

[04:14]But it's a rapid increase happening, as I said, in the last couple of episodes.

[04:19]I'm feeling a little bit like it kind of takes,

[04:24]it takes away from the actual banginess of a song that might actually bang.

[04:32]Hopefully that makes sense.

[04:34]Anyway, Jim Horn for life.

[04:36]He bangs.

[04:38]All right.

[04:39]So once again, it's a female voicemail caller criticizing us.

[04:43]So essentially, my understanding is she thinks the fact that we say the song bangs

[04:49]takes away from the fact that it actually bangs.

[04:52]Well, I was doing some research into this,

[04:54]and what I realized is that when I was listening to the Fleetwood Mac,

[04:58]I went back and listened to all our episodes.

[05:00]I was listening to Fleetwood Mac.

[05:01]I did say this song bangs, this album bangs.

[05:03]I said it a number of times.

[05:05]They're bangers.

[05:06]They're bangers.

[05:07]But I'm going to stand by it.

[05:08]Those were bangers.

[05:08]I don't know what else to say.

[05:10]I mean, they're all bangers.

[05:12]If you have songs as good as Fleetwood Mac's on Rumors,

[05:15]what can I say?

[05:16]They're certified bangers.

[05:17]That whole album bangs.

[05:19]Stevie Nicks hair.

[05:21]She's got bangs.

[05:22]They bang.

[05:24]Hey, Fleetwood Mac, what's he playing?

[05:27]A drum.

[05:28]Well, guess how he plays it.

[05:30]He bangs it.

[05:31]He bangs it.

[05:32]Okay.

[05:32]Well, he stepped on that a little bit.

[05:34]I'll edit that in post.

[05:35]All right.

[05:36]So, you know, normally I think we would go to the joke apology sound clip

[05:40]and we'd play it.

[05:41]We'd laugh.

[05:41]Okay.

[05:42]Aaron, do you think we should play the joke apology sound clip?

[05:44]I'm not sure we need to apologize.

[05:46]I feel like we could probably figure out another way to,

[05:48]we could probably come up with something else.

[05:49]Aaron texted me and said, please play this apology sound clip.

[05:52]But Aaron, you know, that's swearing at a woman and I'm against,

[05:54]that's sick that you would want to do that.

[05:55]So instead, I decided we would make a Beck Did It Better playlist.

[05:59]It's got all our favorite songs on there.

[06:01]This is going out to Sarah.

[06:03]I want to play this as an apology.

[06:05]I'm just going to say that these songs really, really rock.

[06:09]Okay.

[06:10]I think they're songs that I think that she's going to really like them.

[06:12]So here's one of my first songs that I really, really love.

[06:15]Don't come knocking on my back door.

[06:18]Bang, bang, baby.

[06:20]Lying on the floor.

[06:21]Bang, bang, baby.

[06:23]I mean, this song.

[06:24]This song is a groove.

[06:24]Bang, bang, baby.

[06:25]This song pops.

[06:27]It pops.

[06:28]This is off the album Beach Sleeper by Desiree Candy from Oakland, California.

[06:32]Of course, this is the one Aaron sent in.

[06:37]I had to like do a deep dive.

[06:38]You're going in reverse order, right?

[06:39]So you got your top five and that was number five?

[06:41]Yeah, that was number five.

[06:42]This is number four on the songs that are randomly put together.

[06:46]No theme to them whatsoever.

[06:47]We just thought Sarah would like them.

[06:49]Let's see what this one is.

[06:50]There's a little Cher coming at you.

[06:54]Cher.

[06:55]Ooh, Cher.

[06:56]Nancy Sinatra song.

[06:57]Wow.

[07:02]Oh, I like it.

[07:03]This song.

[07:04]Ooh, this song.

[07:04]Maybe it has the word bang in the title.

[07:06]This song rocks the house kind of thing, don't you think?

[07:09]It rocks.

[07:09]Aaron, aren't you catching up with what we're doing?

[07:11]This song slaps.

[07:12]Maybe you could play along too, Aaron, and help out a little bit?

[07:14]All right.

[07:16]I found randomly this song.

[07:19]You know, I wanted to include something.

[07:20]You know what I'm doing a best of list.

[07:22]I've got to include They Might Be Giants.

[07:24]It's one of my favorite bands of all time.

[07:25]I love this song, guys.

[07:32]You know, this song, to me, it kind of grooves.

[07:36]Yeah, it kind of does wail a little bit.

[07:37]It wails and it grooves.

[07:38]I think it does both.

[07:39]Very wailing.

[07:40]Aaron, do you have something clever to say?

[07:43]I think it knocks.

[07:45]This one knocks.

[07:46]Oh, there we go.

[07:47]Nice.

[07:47]I like the knocks.

[07:48]All right.

[07:50]The next one, I've got T-Rex.

[07:54]Okay, both a band and a dinosaur, by the way.

[07:55]A lot of people don't know this.

[07:56]Oh, yes.

[07:57]Okay.

[07:57]I think Sarah's going to love this song.

[07:59]This goes on the Beck Did It Better mixtape that we're making for her.

[08:03]Oh, yeah.

[08:06]Well, this thumps.

[08:07]This thumps.

[08:08]You know what?

[08:09]I'm going to say.

[08:09]You hear that thump there?

[08:10]I think it thumps.

[08:11]This kind of whips.

[08:12]This one.

[08:13]Tapper.

[08:15]This one's a tapper.

[08:16]I can't tell if it thumps or it thuds.

[08:18]One of the two.

[08:18]It might thud.

[08:19]I'll tell you what, though.

[08:21]If you're looking for a song that you're really into,

[08:24]really going to love, let's go to number one on my playlist.

[08:26]Okay?

[08:27]And I'm going to say this song.

[08:29]It slaps.

[08:31]Oh, it threw a slap.

[08:33]Let's see when it slaps.

[08:34]This is William Hong, of course, hitting a Ricky Martin.

[08:37]Oh, yes.

[08:39]This pounds.

[08:43]I mean, this is pounding right now.

[08:44]This one's, yeah, it's pounding.

[08:46]I just can't think of the right word for this song.

[08:48]It's just this.

[08:48]It's going to leave a welt in my heart afterwards.

[08:53]What is he talking about when he says she bangs?

[08:56]I don't know.

[08:57]He keeps whacking some instrument.

[08:58]I can't really tell what's going on.

[09:00]Now, I do want to say this, okay?

[09:02]So, all jokes aside, okay?

[09:04]Unless you're as dumb as a rock, you probably get what we're doing.

[09:07]I just want to play this song.

[09:09]I want to play this song.

[09:11]Wait a minute.

[09:11]Wait, what are we doing?

[09:12]In fact, do you have to say that, Rob?

[09:13]What are we doing?

[09:13]I'm actually going to preemptively do this.

[09:16]That was Aaron's left hand taking the beat.

[09:19]Okay.

[09:20]He talked about it.

[09:21]So, we obviously did that.

[09:23]That whole friggin' joke about bangs, right?

[09:25]Listen to the fucking song that Aaron sends me.

[09:28]He, like, emails me this song or texts me this song.

[09:31]He's like, oh, you got to put this on the list.

[09:33]I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?

[09:34]Okay, listen to this.

[09:35]This clonks.

[09:43]This is clonking.

[09:44]But she says bomb, bomb.

[09:46]So, he's like, oh, this is not even a bang.

[09:47]It's a dancehall classic.

[09:49]Bomb, bomb.

[09:50]It's B-A-M, B-A-M.

[09:53]This is a bammer.

[09:56]This is a bammer.

[09:57]This bomb bombs for sure.

[09:58]It clangs on the list.

[10:00]It clangs.

[10:01]This is what I'm dealing with as the host of this show is I get emails that say, oh, bomb, bomb.

[10:06]That should be good for this joke.

[10:08]And I was like, okay.

[10:09]Sounds great.

[10:10]But I'll definitely put it on there.

[10:11]I always love those bomb, bomb popsicles.

[10:14]The red, white, and blues.

[10:15]Those were the best.

[10:16]What a bomb, bomb.

[10:18]That's a dancehall classic.

[10:19]That's going to lead us straight into our first track on the album, Lost Ones.

[10:24]I'm so excited.

[10:24]It would unless we were doing our next segment, which you would think that that bit I just did would lead into the album because it actually relates.

[10:31]But it doesn't.

[10:32]Let's get into everybody's favorite part, rolling going.

[10:36]It's, it's, it's, it's time to see what everybody's up to.

[10:41]It's time for rolling going.

[10:44]Oh, yeah.

[10:48]This segment always thumps.

[10:53]Again, we will call you and beg you to call the back line.

[10:56]But when you do, we will make fun of you ruthlessly.

[10:59]We cannot help ourselves.

[11:00]We will instantly shoot a gift horse in the mouth.

[11:05]Is that the right phrase?

[11:06]All right.

[11:07]You don't shoot the gift horse?

[11:08]Wait a minute.

[11:08]I don't even know what a gift horse is.

[11:11]I'm sticking that thing to another level.

[11:12]You don't shoot the gift horse.

[11:15]You just look at it in the mouth.

[11:16]Oh, that's the problem.

[11:18]And why is that bad?

[11:19]I don't know.

[11:20]I don't understand why that's bad.

[11:21]You just look at it.

[11:23]You just look at that horse in the mouth?

[11:24]I'm so sorry.

[11:25]It's my bad.

[11:26]All right.

[11:27]Rolling going.

[11:27]Russell, how are you doing?

[11:28]I'm going well.

[11:30]I had a great day today, but I had a moment earlier today.

[11:32]And I want to see if you guys think I'm just too uptight about something or if you think

[11:36]this person I ran into in my day is actually a sociopath that needs to be, needs to be

[11:41]removed from.

[11:42]Russell went back to the record store.

[11:44]I did not go to the record store.

[11:46]I was at a gas station actually today and I was waiting in line inside and there was

[11:50]a person who bought lottery scratch off tickets.

[11:53]In front of me.

[11:54]Oh, and then it took forever.

[11:56]No, no.

[11:57]It took forever because they had to like go through and they were pointing at certain

[12:00]tickets.

[12:01]They didn't want that ticket that was out.

[12:03]They wanted a different one where the lady had to come out around in the front and she

[12:07]had to show her.

[12:08]No, I want this red one.

[12:09]Oh my God.

[12:10]So this goes on for like a minute or two and I'm sitting there waiting, waiting.

[12:13]And so, so anyways, finally she gets the scratch off tickets.

[12:16]She wants, she scratches them at the counter.

[12:19]Oh, what do you think of people who get scratch?

[12:23]Oh, I don't know.

[12:23]People who get scratch off lottery tickets and scratch them at the counter or go through

[12:27]like the whole process of having to check their lottery tickets or their scratch off

[12:31]tickets while people are in line.

[12:33]Like these people got to go, right?

[12:34]Oh yeah.

[12:36]See you later.

[12:37]I think when, when you pull up next door, you go, I'm glad you didn't win.

[12:40]And then you just shove her.

[12:41]You're like right in her face.

[12:42]You put a fist right in her face, your hand right in her face and you're like, see ya.

[12:46]I think in our COVID times, we just got to make sure she's using some hand sand before

[12:51]she scratches the scratcher.

[12:53]Right?

[12:54]Like you just got to make sure this is sanitary.

[12:55]So I'm just, I'm just supposed to wait and hold my donuts or what?

[12:59]How long do I got to hold the donuts while she's scratching her lottery tickets?

[13:03]And when's the last time you waited in line at a gas station?

[13:05]I got to hear this story.

[13:06]There's no way it's been in the last six months.

[13:08]It was probably at the super America on Snelling Avenue at some point in 2004.

[13:15]Yeah, exactly.

[13:18]I assume in California,

[13:23]you just drive your car over some sort of charger and it charges right back up.

[13:26]You're able to drive it around.

[13:27]No problem.

[13:27]We have a lot of gas stations where you can't even, there's nothing inside.

[13:30]It's just like a pump.

[13:31]And then there's like a, you can drop your car off there to get worked on, but we don't

[13:34]have, you know, it's just like you go and pump your gas.

[13:36]There's not even a place to go in and buy peanuts or whatever, which I would happily

[13:40]buy.

[13:40]In fact, I have some, you know, I'm, you know what?

[13:42]I'm wrong, Rob.

[13:43]I'm sorry guys to take us off track.

[13:44]It was a sponsorship.

[13:45]But when I was in Iowa, I did go to Casey's general store and purchase some tain chili

[13:52]and lime peanuts.

[13:53]So I waited.

[13:53]I waited.

[13:53]I waited in line to purchase those peanuts.

[13:54]So it's only been three weeks since others.

[13:57]I did listen to the last podcast.

[14:00]You also mentioned those peanuts on the last podcast.

[14:02]They're so good.

[14:03]They're delicious.

[14:03]How many, the real question is how many come and go stores did you have to drive by to

[14:10]go to find a Casey's?

[14:11]Oh yeah.

[14:11]About seven, about seven come and goes for one Casey's.

[14:13]Yeah.

[14:14]See, that's the difference between Aaron and me.

[14:17]He had a package of peanuts out in his garage a week ago and they're still there.

[14:20]Yeah.

[14:21]No way.

[14:22]Those peanuts would be long gone.

[14:23]For me, I would have banged those peanuts home a long time ago.

[14:26]That reminds me.

[14:27]I got gas today in New Jersey, which is also, you're just going to say you got gas and move

[14:31]on.

[14:31]I thought that was the end of the road.

[14:33]I got gas.

[14:35]I got gas today in New Jersey.

[14:37]And according to, what did you eat?

[14:39]I believe it's a state law in New Jersey.

[14:41]You are not allowed to pump your own gas.

[14:43]So every gas station has an attendant that comes out and pumps your gas and then washes

[14:47]your windows and everything.

[14:48]And I got to say, I love it.

[14:50]It fits the Rob lifestyle so well.

[14:52]I don't even get out of my car.

[14:53]Oh, my God.

[14:54]It's so great.

[14:55]They're filling it up, washing windows.

[14:57]I'm there like, you know, playing music super loud.

[14:59]I was like, this is heaven.

[15:00]This is the best thing ever.

[15:01]Rosie, how's it going?

[15:03]I mean, it's going good.

[15:04]I will, I guess I'll just put this episode in context.

[15:07]It's Saturday, November 7th, which means that about 836, my local time this morning, we

[15:13]got the news about the US election.

[15:15]So I took a shot of Rittenhouse whiskey, which is a Pennsylvania whiskey.

[15:19]You might guess I was excited about how it turned out.

[15:23]It's now about 836 PM and I've been just, I've been rolling all day.

[15:27]So hopefully I don't say anything dumb like I did in the opening and we have a good, we

[15:31]have a good episode.

[15:32]I don't, no one knows what you're talking about.

[15:35]It's much harder to edit things when you keep bringing them up.

[15:37]I am going to say, hopefully I won't say anything dumb.

[15:39]Can't cut them out.

[15:41]Yeah.

[15:42]The sign of a true person hoping not to say anything dumb as they say, they start by saying,

[15:45]well, I hope I don't say anything dumb, but that's the, that's the bleeped joke of the

[15:49]week, but I'm good.

[15:50]I'm happy.

[15:50]I don't live in my garage anymore.

[15:51]I know everyone's disappointed to learn.

[15:53]I'm happy.

[15:53]That I have, uh, I received a negative COVID test, uh, on Monday, moved back into my house.

[15:59]So, um, I've not been in the garage as much this week.

[16:02]Uh, and, uh, that was a, that was a negative for the whole podcast.

[16:05]It was a negative for your test.

[16:07]It was also a negative for our content.

[16:08]So thanks for nothing.

[16:09]It was a huge bummer.

[16:10]You couldn't have taken off that mask a few more times in Des Moines.

[16:13]You opened some door handles without licking them.

[16:18]What a bummer.

[16:23]Well, I guess we know who doesn't really care about the podcast.

[16:25]So rolling, going, Matt, how's it going with you?

[16:30]Good, good.

[16:31]It's going good.

[16:32]Uh, you know, I just, I think, um, you know, to Rosie's sentiment, I think everybody was

[16:37]sitting around waiting on pins and needles, both sides of the table.

[16:40]Rob calls those tenterhooks.

[16:42]Tenterhooks.

[16:42]I don't know what those are, but Rob uses that term.

[16:44]You use them on a gift horse.

[16:46]And I would just say this.

[16:49]I was tenterhooking the shit out of a gift horse earlier.

[16:51]It was like wild.

[16:52]All right.

[16:53]Now I've got to bleep that too.

[16:54]That sounds way worse.

[16:58]Oh boy.

[17:03]I just wanted to say this.

[17:05]You know, I've got a lot of friends that are Republican, my family, a lot of Republicans

[17:10]on the side of things.

[17:11]And I think the one thing that I hope, and I keep hearing it out of, uh, president elect

[17:17]Mr. Biden, that, you know, he can come together and bring everybody together.

[17:21]And I think that's exactly.

[17:23]I think that's exactly what we need right now, you know, to stop going from left corner

[17:27]to right corner.

[17:27]And so I know I kind of brought the room down here a little bit, but I'm just, I, I, I, I'm

[17:32]super stoked just like, uh, Rosie.

[17:36]And I just hope that everybody can kind of put their differences aside a little bit and

[17:40]try to move towards a common goal instead of all of this divisiveness.

[17:44]I actually, I actually hope there's this law.

[17:46]I'm really hoping it proposes in the first law that I hope he pushes through and rams

[17:50]through, uh, the Congress is.

[17:53]No more Rolling Stone 500 lists over the next four to eight years.

[17:56]Can we just get rid of the re-dos of the fucking list?

[17:59]Can we just come together, stop the divisiveness about which list we're supposed to use and

[18:05]just stick with this one?

[18:06]Yeah.

[18:07]Can we agree that Lauren Hill's at number nine?

[18:10]Like we don't need, we don't need a redo where she's at 11 in four years or at seven.

[18:14]Let's just stick at nine.

[18:15]In 10 years, we're starting this podcast over and it's just all K-pop in the top 10.

[18:19]We're like, we have no idea what's going on.

[18:21]We're 60 years old or whatever.

[18:22]All right.

[18:23]Can't do math.

[18:24]Not my strong suit.

[18:25]How's it going with you?

[18:26]How's it going?

[18:27]How's it rolling?

[18:28]Going with Rob?

[18:29]You didn't bring the room down, but I, we were all distracted by Russ cause he had pulled

[18:33]out three tenterhooks and he was doing some tricks with them.

[18:36]And then when he said, Ram it through, then he, that was kind of his finale and I thought

[18:40]that was really great.

[18:41]I thought that was wonderful.

[18:42]All right.

[18:43]So I've got two points and I'm going to make one point and ask a question.

[18:46]And then I'm going to tell you the second point before you answer the question.

[18:48]Okay.

[18:49]So keep that in mind.

[18:50]All right.

[18:51]More confusing than your rating system.

[18:52]Can you explain how we're supposed to follow this again?

[18:55]You know, I don't even like people joking about my rating system because it actually

[18:59]is very good.

[19:00]Okay.

[19:01]And I've got a lot of compliments from tweets that I've deleted that you can't see.

[19:04]I am, I am now waking up in the morning and I'm realizing that as I get older, it is much,

[19:08]much, much, much more important than I am eating breakfast.

[19:12]Now, unfortunately this also coincides with me being totally lactose intolerant.

[19:16]So the idea of having milk with cereal and then going to teach a bunch of middle school

[19:20]students is a absolute nightmare.

[19:22]A no go.

[19:23]Um, so, uh, I wanted to ask you guys, what is your breakfast style?

[19:28]Like, are you getting up and you're making a great breakfast?

[19:30]And I'm sure, you know, Rosie's getting up extra early and going out and picking up his

[19:33]own grains or whatever he's doing.

[19:35]Uh, he picks up, Oh yeah, I have a green guy who is also, you know, he was also in the

[19:40]fat boys or whatever.

[19:41]Um, but the second story I want to tell you before you answer the question is yesterday

[19:47]I came in.

[19:48]Okay.

[19:49]And I, uh, Jenny looked Jenny.

[19:50]I came in.

[19:51]Okay.

[19:52]So I came into the, to the apartment and Jenny looked at me and goes, Oh no.

[19:56]And I said, Oh, what happened?

[19:57]She goes, Oh, I was opening this plastic bag and I thought it was a piece of unpopped popcorn.

[20:01]And so I put it in my mouth and it turns out it was my daughter's tooth that she was going

[20:04]to save for the tooth fairy.

[20:05]So I guess the question I have to ask is what do you guys do for breakfast?

[20:14]I'm confused.

[20:15]Why was she putting things in her mouth from a plastic bag?

[20:17]Like, why would she be eating unpopped popcorn anyway?

[20:20]And then.

[20:21]I mean, there's so, I have so many questions, Rob, I don't know that I can continue.

[20:25]No.

[20:26]Well, I actually asked the question first.

[20:27]What's your breakfast style?

[20:28]She's kind of like, and my understanding is she's kind of like probably 12 years of medical

[20:33]school or something along those lines.

[20:35]And she decided to eat the tooth.

[20:38]So what do you guys like to do for breakfast?

[20:39]It was like crunched down on a giant molar that was in somebody's mouth for, Oh, I don't

[20:44]know about 11 years.

[20:45]It's so gross.

[20:46]I mean, I'll go ahead because you guys are going to laugh.

[20:48]I watched it.

[20:49]Uh, our breakfast.

[20:50]Uh, Sunday through Thursday, Saturday through Thursday is, uh, oatmeal.

[20:55]We make, uh, steel cut oats about once a week and then we like eat them, uh, we warm them

[20:59]up.

[21:00]So you make a big batch, then you warm up every day.

[21:02]Usually put peanut butter and yogurt.

[21:04]How do you warm them up?

[21:05]On the stovetop?

[21:06]You know, microwaves.

[21:07]With some water?

[21:08]Yeah.

[21:09]Oh.

[21:10]Oh.

[21:11]No, a lot of people, a lot of people enjoy using a stovetop.

[21:13]No, you don't.

[21:14]She put enjoy in there because she hates it.

[21:16]She wants a microwave as bad as Aaron does.

[21:18]Well, I really enjoy using the toaster oven.

[21:20]Yeah.

[21:20]Yeah.

[21:20]Yeah.

[21:20]No, you don't.

[21:21]Do you steel cut those oats with the edge of that metal bucket of yours or not?

[21:25]No, we just buy the steel cut oats.

[21:27]They're Bob's and then, uh, we'd be peanut butter, Greek yogurt, uh, whatever fruit we

[21:31]have in the house this, this week we had, um, pomegranate seeds because we had a pomegranate

[21:36]from the pumpkin patch that my son picked out and I finally got the seeds out.

[21:40]Uh, and then our big, our big, uh, uh, showstopper is on Fridays, uh, we make, um, egg and cheese

[21:47]sandwiches on a bagel with veggie sausage.

[21:50]That's our, that's our ritual right there.

[21:51]That's, that's everything you needed to know about my breakfast.

[21:53]I would have to go to the bathroom so fast at work after that.

[21:56]Oh my God.

[21:57]Your breakfast sound way more enhanced than mine do.

[21:59]I am literally just mixing yogurt and cereal now.

[22:02]You guys didn't ask my breakfast style, so I thought that was very rude by the way.

[22:04]You eat that rat food that it looks like when all the marshmallows are gone on your lucky

[22:08]charms.

[22:09]Oh my God.

[22:10]That's what you've been doing.

[22:11]Oh my God.

[22:12]Terrible.

[22:13]You know what she was doing today?

[22:14]By the way, my wife today was taking honey bunches of oats and then picking out all the

[22:17]clusters of the honey bunches.

[22:19]Yeah.

[22:20]What?

[22:21]What?

[22:22]It was the oats.

[22:23]I was like, I don't want more oats.

[22:24]I want the clusters.

[22:25]Guys, I live in hell.

[22:26]Your world's horrible.

[22:27]Hey, I've, I've fully embraced the, uh, intermittent fasting lifestyle over the last six, eight

[22:36]weeks.

[22:37]And so I've, I don't intermittently fast ever.

[22:39]Yeah.

[22:40]I've, I've, I, for the most part, I stopped eating about seven o'clock and then don't

[22:44]eat lunch until about noon every day.

[22:47]Uh, I have coffee in the morning and I've, Hey.

[22:50]After about 21 days of it, about three weeks, it's unbelievably easy.

[22:54]And I have found that it is a great lifestyle for me personally.

[22:58]And I feel like I could eat whatever I want at lunch and I don't feel bad about it.

[23:02]And for whatever reason, it's just, it's been, it works out great for me.

[23:05]And so

[23:06]That's amazing.

[23:07]Go ahead.

[23:08]And here's the part of the, here's the part that Matt emailed me.

[23:10]Wow, Matt, that sounds like a great deal.

[23:13]I would love to get on this program.

[23:15]I would be willing to pay $50 a month.

[23:18]Would you say it would cost that much?

[23:19]You get three of your friends, Rob, and then they get three of their friends.

[23:22]All of a sudden you've got nine people underneath you and you can make $400,000 a year.

[23:27]It's a great plan.

[23:28]You two are my only three friends, so I interest you in intermittent fasting.

[23:33]Have you guys ever had a job at a pyramid scheme before?

[23:37]Because I have.

[23:38]Oh no.

[23:39]Wait a minute.

[23:40]My job at a pyramid scheme?

[23:41]Well, I did.

[23:42]The, the Pharaoh said no to me, but, um, so am I muted?

[23:46]Am I muted?

[23:47]The Pharaoh.

[23:48]The Pharaoh didn't hire me?

[23:49]Pyramids.

[23:50]What are we talking about?

[23:51]Pyramids.

[23:52]Oh no.

[23:53]The Pharaoh hired me?

[23:54]No.

[23:55]Oh no.

[23:56]Oh no.

[23:57]I went to talk to his mummy about that.

[24:01]Sarah's going to call in and talk to you about that.

[24:03]RIP this podcast as Rob likes to say.

[24:06]So in college, after our freshman year of college, I was looking for a job and it was

[24:11]just like a summer gig.

[24:12]And so I was looking for anything, right?

[24:14]And I found this ad in the newspaper.

[24:15]It was some sort of marketing job.

[24:16]It was some sort of marketing job or whatever.

[24:18]And I, so I go to this interview and I get to this interview and there's about 50 people

[24:23]in the room.

[24:24]I'm like, what's going on here?

[24:25]And they get you in there and essentially they say, all right, we're interviewing people

[24:30]to be knife salesmen, to sell these cut cone knives.

[24:33]You guys ever remember those?

[24:34]Yeah.

[24:35]Yeah.

[24:36]Absolutely.

[24:37]And so they get a bunch of people in there and they start, you know, teaching you about

[24:41]what they're trying to sell.

[24:42]And the brilliance of this pyramid scheme is they would always find a job.

[24:43]The brilliance of this pyramid scheme is they would always find like one or two people that

[24:47]were a few years older in school that had done well at it and they would put them up

[24:52]there.

[24:53]So it's like, oh, I know her.

[24:54]I know him.

[24:55]If they can do it, I can do this, right?

[24:58]So they interview and they cut the group down to like a half.

[25:01]So I don't know who, I don't know why they send people home, but they cut, they cut.

[25:06]And so the next day, half of you come back.

[25:12]Oh, no.

[25:13]Cut you in half.

[25:14]Cut the group in half.

[25:15]Half of you come back.

[25:16]And so eventually they teach you, like, we're going to teach you how to sell these knives.

[25:17]And so the first day of training, they essentially, they give you a rope and you got to saw through

[25:18]the rope, just like you would see on TV.

[25:19]Or they give.

[25:20]Russ immediately grabs the blade instead of the handle.

[25:21]And they're like, oh, no, I'm sorry.

[25:22]You should have been in the other group.

[25:23]Ah, God damn, my hand.

[25:24]And so they teach you how to like do the knife.

[25:25]And they're like, oh, no, I'm sorry.

[25:26]You should have been in the other group.

[25:27]And so they give you a rope and you got to saw through the rope just like you would see

[25:28]on TV.

[25:29]Or they give.

[25:30]Russ immediately grabs the blade instead of the handle.

[25:31]And they're like, oh, no, I'm sorry.

[25:32]You should have been in the other group.

[25:33]Ah, God damn, my hand.

[25:34]And so they teach you how to like display these knives and essentially show how they're

[25:35]so useful.

[25:36]It's like, OK, I can handle that.

[25:37]I can handle that.

[25:38]The second day they come in and they kind of teach you how to sell the knives.

[25:39]They teach you how to communicate with potential customers.

[25:40]OK, I'm down with that.

[25:41]I'm down with that.

[25:42]The third day they come back in at the end of the third day.

[25:43]They say tomorrow you need to come back.

[25:44]And at the end of the third day, they say tomorrow you need to come back.

[25:45]And at the end of the third day, they say tomorrow you need to come back.

[25:46]that i can handle that the second day they come in and they kind of teach you how to sell the

[25:50]knives they teach you how to communicate with potential customers okay i'm down with that i'm

[25:53]down with that the third day they come back in at the end of the third day they say tomorrow you

[25:58]need to come in with a list of 150 names that you're going to call to schedule appointments

[26:04]to sell these knives and i went home that night and i asked my mom the the owner of many great

[26:10]records i said do you have like any friends i can call to sell these knives she's like nope not

[26:15]happening not happening russ your mom not having any friends is the saddest story i've ever heard

[26:19]my whole life i can't believe she doesn't have any friends i didn't mean it like that

[26:23]basement for 10 years listening to records that i'll have forever and i'll cherish for the rest

[26:29]of my life i don't have any friends i think my mom refused to give me herbie man's phone number

[26:34]so i couldn't call and make a make a connection with the herb meister but but essentially she

[26:41]kind of said no i'm not giving you any of my friends numbers you're on your own on this one

[26:45]i was like well this isn't happening because i'm not calling anyone to make an appointment to go

[26:49]sell knives with them so i went downstairs in the basement and i was so like ashamed of what you

[26:54]know i was embarrassed and ashamed and i had to call these people and say like yeah i'm not coming

[26:58]back tomorrow so i worked for cutco knives pyramid scheme for three days before i quit

[27:02]russ opens up his trunk and he goes he goes yeah but mom and there's just like 500 knives in his

[27:08]trunk and he's like what am i gonna do with all these but the epilogue to the story and i don't

[27:14]know if the other folks who might be involved in this story are listening to this podcast so i'm

[27:18]gonna use aliases so i'm gonna call this person ralph russell had another acquaintance named

[27:26]ralph who later in russell's life i happen to know got involved in a potential pyramid scheme

[27:32]and russell got right in and squashed it and ralph said you know what you know what my boss

[27:37]calls you he calls you a dream killer and russell stood up to that guy and stopped

[27:43]stopped ralph from joining the pyramid scheme even though ralph says my boss calls you a dream

[27:48]killer because russell had been drew it already he understood what makes that so funny is that

[27:54]russell had used those 300 knives that he had left over to make a freddy krueger outfit so he was he

[27:59]was like i really am a dream killer bitch yeah i went at i went as halloween for as edward scissorhands

[28:04]for like eight years in a row and never had to repeat a single knife oh my god i almost passed

[28:13]out i laughed so hard at that joke listen nobody else likes this but i think it's great

[28:19]uh all right so i think that is it for rolling going we went from breakfast to pyramid schemes

[28:25]in a very normal conversation that would happen with any group of people all right so let's talk

[28:30]about the history of we're talking about the miseducation of lauren hill this i remember uh

[28:36]that thing being a huge song when i was growing up but it was lauren hill was never a person i

[28:40]really got into uh matt has been a huge fan of lauren hill and he's been a huge fan of lauren hill

[28:42]has volunteered this week to take over the history of the album matt you ready to go

[28:46]yeah yeah can you guys hear me okay yes we can have your computer did your computer like fall

[28:51]over well i'm out in the garage and i think i was a little far away from the wi-fi so i was just i

[28:56]love how matt's just reached the point where we start telling stories he's like fuck it i'm out

[29:01]i'll come back in like four minutes i gotta take a look man i'm gonna i'm gonna retell you my freddy

[29:06]krueger joke because i think that was actually really good to do so first of all russell selling

[29:11]knives then it was russell's roommate who said he was a dream killer and he addressed it like

[29:15]freddy krueger i am a dream killer bitch okay so i just re i did the whole joke again i think it

[29:20]was funny the second time too uh man history of the album lauren hill give it to us all right

[29:25]released in 1998 this was classified as a neo soul album which uh i i had to go look up yeah

[29:34]you know so uh erica badu maxwell d'angelo you know that's kind of the she kind of kicked off

[29:41]that yeah after her relationship with the fugees turned sour which i couldn't find anything on how

[29:46]that turned sour other than i think she just got sick of the guys and the guys got sick of her but

[29:51]i i i think too it seemed like wyclef was not the most fun person to work with he turned because

[29:57]when when she went in he apparently he was like well if you work with her you're not working with

[30:00]me anymore huh i just get the impression that he had a really i mean they did have a romantic

[30:04]relationship and she she took it out uh on this album uh lost ones is probably about him

[30:10]others are about him x factor is probably about him he uh apparently chose to write a biography

[30:15]about it uh and then also spilled the tea to uh famous dj wendy williams so i think wyclef took it

[30:20]more public and lauren tried to like uh keep it more more vague but um people weren't supposed

[30:25]to know but they were involved uh romantically so where does this rank like was was the fugees

[30:31]were they huge at this point what was carnival or what was that album where does this go in time in

[30:36]terms of uh this album matt so a couple years before this the fugees album

[30:40]and rosie might have to help me out here with what the name of it was one of uh uh rap album

[30:46]they were huge yeah the score i remember that i remember listening to a ton of fugees the score

[30:51]there's a score that had ready or not so that one rap album of the year yeah and so they they

[30:57]were huge they were absolutely huge um you know i think a lot of it she did not like the limelight

[31:04]she did not like the touring i don't think she liked the mtv factor that had to go along with

[31:10]so because of all this she kind of was taking a step back she ended up getting pregnant with uh

[31:15]with a marley um rosie rohan is that how you pronounce it yeah yeah rohan he was one of my

[31:22]favorite miami hurricanes back in the day i used to love watching him play football number two

[31:26]and so you know she she took a step back got pregnant got pregnant was having a baby was

[31:32]going through everything like that living life and and got inspired to make a solo album

[31:36]you know man i was gonna say this sounds a ton to me and think about how

[31:40]smart this is of me to say this it sounds a lot like brian wilson doesn't it like a really similar

[31:44]thing where she didn't like the limelight she didn't like touring i can't remember if he got

[31:48]pregnant or not but it seems pretty similar but similar similar to brian wilson she was clearly

[31:55]the most talented member of her group and there was there was external pressure on her to go solo

[31:59]because she was so talented she was a great rapper she could sing and and people wanted her to make

[32:03]solo records so it wasn't just wasn't just her feelings it was that there was pressure on her to

[32:08]to step out and do a solo thing

[32:10]yeah so she had it to well she started out in new jersey primarily um and basically she i think to

[32:19]sum it up in a nutshell she was getting all sorts of pressure from people in the states you know

[32:24]that she had to do this and had to do this and pushing her left pushing her right and she just

[32:28]got fed up with it decided to head to kingston jamaica to head to bob marley studio to record

[32:32]the majority of this album um you know she said she didn't want to come out with a fuji's type sound

[32:40]polished and ready for radio and ready for mtv but she wanted to create something that was very

[32:45]unique and very clearly a lauren hill album so she said she didn't intend for the album sound to

[32:51]be commercially appealing there's too much this is a quote now there's too much pressure to have

[32:56]hits these days artists are watching billboard instead of exploring themselves look at someone

[33:00]like aretha she didn't hit the she didn't hit with the first album but she was able to grow

[33:05]up and find herself i want to make honest music i don't like things to be perfect

[33:10]or too polished people may criticize me for that but i grew up listening to al green and sam cook

[33:14]when they hit a high note i actually felt it she would love our podcast then i think yeah exactly

[33:21]and so you know i think we'll get into this a little bit later but you kind of get a theme

[33:25]throughout the top 10 albums that you know that absolutely was a pivot from kind of commercial

[33:32]success and where it was at in the day and they took it and ran with it just whatever they felt

[33:38]was their passion as a musician and as a musician as a musician as a musician as a musician as a

[33:39]musician as opposed to what would be commercially successful at that time and so columbia records

[33:46]considered bringing an outside producer for the album uh even talked to rizza from wu-tang but

[33:51]hill was adamant about writing and arranging and producing the album herself saying it would be

[33:56]it would have been more difficult to articulate to other people hey it's my album she said

[34:01]who can tell my story better than me so she she was able to write collaborate produce

[34:09]uh finish she did the whole thing from front to back which sounds exactly like

[34:13]yeah brian wilson joni mitchell you know another oh joni mitchell joni mitchell god damn it set me

[34:20]up for sound you see how happy i was i was smart i looked writing it herself i started reading a book

[34:26]i unfortunately didn't finish it in time for the podcast but i've been reading a book uh called

[34:30]she begat this by joan morgan she wrote a book about this album she talks about lauren hill in

[34:35]context of other female mcs of the time specifically foxy brown and lauren hill in context of other

[34:39]little kim both of whom notoriously did not write their own rhymes and lauren wrote all of her own

[34:44]rhymes on top of writing this album producing this album so lauren was doing everything whereas

[34:50]other female mcs who are still great artists in their own right didn't quite have that same

[34:57]kind of control over their life creatively aaron can i can i ask something about that

[35:02]one thing you've said about the beatles before is you would never put them as the greatest band

[35:05]because they don't play their own instruments does lauren hill play instruments or you're referring

[35:09]to her as an mc like why do you view her like how do you view her differently than like a band or an

[35:14]artist who actually is playing the instruments does she play instruments on this or what's your

[35:18]take on that yeah that's a good question and i think that uh actually as we get into this album

[35:22]there is a bit of i don't want to like step on matt's uh turf but uh there is a bit of controversy

[35:28]about how much of this lauren actually did on her own she did have to pay a settlement uh later

[35:33]to some people who were not credited on the album initially so no i don't think she i mean i know

[35:39]we know she plays guitar i know that because i owned the um unplugged 2.0 album of hers that's

[35:45]fairly uneven but but it does have some high points uh i think she's a great mc i think she

[35:50]can really rhyme she can definitely sing but um no i don't think she plays any instruments on this

[35:55]album other than maybe some guitar um which is fine i don't think there's anything you know i

[35:59]think i think knowing what you do well is fantastic i mean she wrote the music um yeah and and had

[36:05]other and then there were musicians and producers in the studio with her so this

[36:09]album debuted at number one on the billboard 200 charts uh it earned 10 nominations uh for the at

[36:16]the grammys winning five so it made hill the first woman to receive 10 nominations and and and the

[36:23]first woman to receive win five awards in one night she won uh the list included best new artist

[36:30]best r&b song best female r&b vocal performance and best r&b album it also won the the grammy for

[36:38]the album

[36:39]of the year making it the first hip-hop album to ever receive this award this is it took all the

[36:44]way until 98 until the best album of the year was a hip-hop album that's wild to me that's absolutely

[36:51]insane so this was this still is their only studio album uh you know for her widely known as one of

[37:00]the best of all time this is her only studio album um she so someone who someone who has the

[37:05]ninth greatest album ever only created one album yeah

[37:09]wow yeah she didn't want to tour extensively because her obligations to her family and the

[37:13]difficulties she experienced while touring with the fugees she found it desensitizing and isolating

[37:18]uh she'd come to know that there's much more to life than her career which i think again

[37:24]speaks volumes to you know that you come to a point in your life where you know you're trying to

[37:29]whatever you're doing to reach the top right where she just said look i'm not going to go

[37:33]on all of this tours i'm not going to do the mtvs i'm not going to do all of this i just want to put

[37:38]my music out and then live my life and be with my kids now some other stuff might come in after that

[37:44]but you know i think again it goes to a theme of um you know it's not all about just trying to get

[37:50]a number one billboard song uh you know and that's i think brings the genius come through

[37:55]all right let's get into it now i'm going to say this i don't like this i don't like this motif of

[38:00]being in school very stressful for me every time i would start playing this at work i would hear it

[38:05]and it is the fakest ass class that's in this whole thing

[38:08]the kids are so nice they're so respectful they don't say oh why do you keep going to the bathroom

[38:13]all the time oh why are you so sweaty like you know what i mean like real kids do right it's

[38:17]not especially when she grew up in new york right like you know you know new york students right rob

[38:21]like that i don't think new york students are quite this nice just like oh hey where is everybody

[38:24]just taking roll call right it is it is wild though i mean they're talking about something

[38:28]like love and the kids aren't just howling at what each other says that's that came off to me

[38:32]it's very fake but here's the intro it's the only skit i'm gonna play i do have to say the concept

[38:37]of skits on an album is something i kind of miss i wish there was more of this

[38:41]yeah i mean this one the the skits kind of just fall apart after that there's the one there's

[38:47]this one there's another one a little bit later where they talk about uh kirk franklin or whatever

[38:51]but it doesn't really hold the whole what do you guys think of this as the opening of an album

[38:55]versus like we've heard you know like london calling by the clash we've heard these kind of

[38:59]like amazing songs that just bang right from the beginning uh-oh and you have this as a skit how

[39:05]do you what do you guys think of this as an opening well if you play it you can play it

[39:07]i mean if you kind of read into it i mean the the whole thing is the miseducation of lauren miss

[39:11]lauren hill right and so the the themes come from a couple books and a couple other albums that

[39:17]it kind of just sets up like the theme of the whole album throughout it uh you know learning

[39:24]growing in and out and so i don't know i don't mind it at all i think it fits in with the theme

[39:29]of what the album is supposed to convey as a message i thought it was really cool i think a

[39:37]central part that so many of us have to growing up is like school like we all have sat in a class

[39:41]where the guy's taking attendance like that like that's something we can all relate to

[39:44]so i just i thought it was a really great way to set up this you know what comes after that

[39:49]and rob i i do want to just say that i i like what you're where you're going with that because

[39:54]so much of this i know this album really well i bought it on cd when it came out when i was

[40:00]19 or whatever i listened to it front to back a million times i am clearly not the target audience

[40:06]for this album and so many i mean i learned so much about uh or i think i learned a lot about

[40:13]what black people experience in life through this album obviously i don't know that

[40:17]um but i will say there's so much about this album that i absolutely i i certainly cannot

[40:22]relate to it's not intended for me i don't get the collective experience but there are many

[40:27]things on the album that are 100 relatable for everyone so i think that's one of the really

[40:31]cool things about the album is that uh you read a lot about what this album meant for black people

[40:36]and black women and obviously if that's you if that's you it means something different to you

[40:42]but also for me as a dork from middle of iowa um it meant a lot to me too and so i think it's

[40:48]really incredible what she was able to do to make something so relatable to so many people

[40:52]aaron i wouldn't be so hard on yourself i think a kid from iowa dressed up like john

[40:56]lennon in high school i don't think dork is the right word all right lost ones

[41:06]this is a great example of lauren talked about how she wanted that scratchy record sound and

[41:11]you can hear like the vinyl that's put the vinyl noise that's put on top of this album

[41:16]where you can hear it kind of fuzzy and it's it's you know that warmth to it

[41:19]so these songs is she taking shots at wyclef in the in these songs or what i think i'm pretty

[41:30]sure this one's about wyclef yeah gain the whole world for the price of your soul wisdom is better

[41:36]in silver and gold gain the whole world for the price yeah i mean all that i think it's at wyclef

[41:40]so am i not allowed to like wyclef anymore but like i remember liking the food and i

[41:46]like that wyclef carnival album am i allowed to like that or did he do something bad no i think

[41:51]i mean look how many groups we've worked we've talked about where they just they they split up

[41:56]like the only people we haven't talked about major split ups is like stevie wonder i don't think that

[42:00]this is like an ike and tina situation i think it was that maybe he didn't treat her 100 respectfully

[42:06]as an artist but i don't think it was like yeah i think we're still allowed to like wyclef i don't

[42:10]think we have to cancel wyclef i will say as far as somebody who was growing up in minnesota as a

[42:15]huge bob marley fan i mean it's kind of a little bit different than the john legend but very very

[42:20]bad probably for me um but the the fujis were huge because it was like now all of a sudden was

[42:25]listening to like people were listening to this reggae noise and i felt like oh yeah now people

[42:28]are coming over to what i've been listening to this is yes this is the bob marley family tree

[42:31]like that's what's super cool about this is the first in this top uh five hundred five hundred

[42:35]this is our first time to really come to the jamaican sound and and she's pulling in dance

[42:41]hall and old school reggae and the food i mean the fujis were the fujis are basically of haitian

[42:47]descent and so you know you kind of get that just that um island vibe and you know the music that

[42:54]they're playing down there so is this the music version of the bill walsh bill walsh coaching tree

[42:58]where he had like denny green and mike holmgren and all those guys well yeah there's a lot of

[43:02]people that show up on this album who are i mean they become fans of the album and they're like

[43:05]famous later i think you're totally right i think that's a very apt description god damn it you're

[43:09]smart russell uh x-factor i don't hear that very often this is a this is a sample of wu-tang clan

[43:16]can it all be so simple

[43:17]piano is classic wu-tang that's great yeah rizzo loved his piano loops god her voice is just

[43:28]unbelievable do you think she was always like this amazing of a singer so i came across this

[43:34]video and i don't know if you guys have ever seen this

[43:35]do you guys know that lauren hill once auditioned on showtime at the apollo yeah no i did not know

[43:42]that she did it and and maybe rob you can pull it up it's crazy when you go watch that video

[43:48]they boo her off stage at the beginning and then she wins them by the end it's

[43:53]such a cool performance you guys got to check this out what does she sing

[43:56]oh oh erin no oh because you i mean you

[44:05]yeah because if you're singing this song you got to bring it

[44:07]so they're booing her this she's a 13 year old erin how can you boo her

[44:16]if you're gonna see if you're gonna see who's loving you you got to bring it

[44:19]okay let's hear her bring it back here here she comes she's you have to bring it singing this song

[44:25]the sandman hasn't come out yet and swept her off the stage

[44:35]oh that little yoda sister act two yeah right she had a couple solos in sister act two or she nailed

[44:45]it well we definitely don't reference that later in the show we got that clip now if you want it

[44:49]let's go to that too but i mean who's loving you that's like that's canon like michael jackson

[44:54]drilled this song as a kid you can't come out and like not not bring it okay so erin let's go on

[45:00]record erin would have booed lauren hill at the apollo

[45:03]terrible you're a terrible person

[45:04]and i and i love lauren hill more than anybody on this podcast

[45:08]oh my god it gives you hope though that hey hey you can make it you can not have a great

[45:15]performance one time but you can come back and have one of the top 10 greatest albums ever

[45:19]well this is episode 15 guys so i swear to god 16 it's gonna be our one that's gonna be the one

[45:24]that's the one that's the one yeah he or she is somewhere out there our listeners are booing us

[45:31]sister act two possibly the movie with the greatest subtitle

[45:34]of all time yeah she can blow back in the habit oh my god that's brilliant whoever made that

[45:41]subtitle i don't care about the scene whoever made that subtitle is should be paid a bazillion

[45:47]dollars they should own movies all movies they should own it this definitely wails and i don't

[45:52]want to say how much time i spent trying to find the best singing nuns over the last few days for

[45:56]a list so i'll just let that yeah this absolutely wails you're 100 right but that's what i mean just

[46:01]these first two tracks on the album she drops she drops just bars on lost ones and then she

[46:08]sings x factor and she does the she's one of the great r&b voices it's incredible what she's able

[46:13]to do just in the first two songs on the album do you think people our age hate carlo santana

[46:21]because of rob thomas and smooth i know i do and anyway here he is on to zion you like how i asked

[46:27]that as a question and then answered it like you always do you gotta give us a chance to answer it

[46:31]you gotta give us a chance to answer it like you always do you gotta give us a chance to answer it

[46:31]you gotta give us a chance to answer it like you always do you gotta give us a chance to answer it

[46:31]you gotta give us a chance to answer it like you always do you gotta give us a chance to answer it

[46:31]you gotta give us a chance to answer it like you always do you gotta give us a chance to answer it

[46:31]you gotta give us a chance to answer it like you always do you gotta give us a chance to answer it

[47:01]yeah i mean she's pretty heavily christian as far as i know and i know after i mean they had five

[47:05]kids together but i know she got involved in some kind of like very niche um christian

[47:12]sects but yeah i'm not sure i mean she and rohan were obviously they were they were common law

[47:16]married for 12 years but um i don't think they're together anymore the moment on this album that

[47:21]gave me chills when i listened to it was this first part where she talks about harmonizing

[47:25]listen to this on doo-wop that thing the number one single off this album debuted at number one

[47:31]only the 10th song in the history of songs to ever do that debut at number one

[47:34]okay so i was thinking guys i think we can do it too ready here we go

[47:45]hey guys remember back on the bully when cats used to harmonize like

[47:48]that bangs all right all right we're gonna have to let joe biden

[47:57]redact that rule and there's gonna be need to be a new list because back

[48:01]i just got an email from lauren hill you're better singers than me thank you lauren

[48:08]we're sorry that we booed you at the apollo lord that was aaron all right

[48:11]come on i can't believe you booed her she's ah she's so this is the song that had me dancing

[48:18]at my desk because i was grading papers yeah let this one play for a while

[48:31]it really summarizes everything that's great about this album great lyrics great noise i mean great

[48:37]go to one song you go to this one if you haven't heard this album absolutely go to this song

[48:41]so good i mean how many times did you hear that song growing up one bazillion times like i remember

[48:48]that song being played over and over and over and i still every time it came on i was excited to hear

[48:53]it it's just it's so good it's got both it's got all of her great vocals plus her rhymes

[48:58]yeah once again it's got all of her great vocals plus her rhymes

[49:01]albums in the top 10 pretty good songs on there superstar nobody's doing their own rhymes and

[49:05]singing their own hooks it's crazy now this one uh-oh hooks got russell all excited again

[49:11]tenter hooks hey hey hey horse hey hey back here those tenor hooks are good for you they're good

[49:18]for you there's 10 to 11 hooks there yeah i have to say this is pretty this to me is the low album

[49:26]the low point on the album because it's a song about how songs aren't as good as they

[49:31]used to be and it's a like it's a low energy kind of song and it's my it's potentially my

[49:36]least favorite genre of hip-hop which is like a song about how songs aren't that great you know

[49:41]what though even even great albums may have you know not so great songs but earlier matt was

[49:47]talking about how this won the best album do you guys know that lauren hill won best album best

[49:52]newcomer and that has only happened four other times for in grammy history there's only been

[49:58]four times where someone has won best

[50:01]album and best newcomer so i'm going to give you guys the list of the four times that's happened

[50:05]that's only happened once with frank sinatra in my granny's history she loved frank sinatra

[50:10]all right granny is that a joke no what just happened no all right let's start over god damn

[50:18]it guys that was a good joke it really was that's powerful that you do that to me on purpose so

[50:23]instead of playing the list bit rob has decided to make jokes instead so we'll just skip his

[50:29]we'll skip the soundbite no

[50:30]no no i'm sorry fine i'll edit that out make me feel bad about a joke that was so good

[50:36]it's all i have

[50:40]talk about grandmas wait till you get to mother-in-law's look out

[50:45]four times where it's been best album and best newcomer and the one is

[50:50]a very recent one billy eilish just did this where she swept all the grammys right

[50:55]and from this is the album when we all fall asleep where do we go just

[51:00]swept every grammy in 2020 am i right yeah yeah this album's on this this album's on the top 500

[51:07]list this is the fifth time it slaps and so the next one there's there's only been one other time

[51:16]i believe that an artist has swept all of the big grammys and that other one just happens to be

[51:23]one of the kings of yacht rock which matched matt touched on earlier and this was the debut album

[51:30]from christopher cross back in 1981 original banger original banger so this actually was the

[51:38]first oh oh yeah i gotta get my white shoes yeah you know what i mean yeah he would yacht rock i

[51:45]wish somebody would explain to me why this is yacht rock i've never understood that

[51:49]he swept the grammys like top to bottom right he swept all the big grammys and

[51:55]a lot of people think that kind of backfired on him because people turned against him

[51:59]because he won every single award i have pulled up an image of christopher cross because he looks

[52:05]a lot like me he looks like you look at this guy right here well i was gonna say i didn't want to

[52:10]i don't want to insult you rob you look much better than he does but like yeah he i mean

[52:14]he could be uh like a cousin or something nailed it thank you but not on emerson's side

[52:19]you know what album his album in 1981 beat it it beaded or it defeated

[52:29]beaded banged it he banged the wall by pink floyd was also that year so christopher cross swept all

[52:38]the grammys so best newcomer best album it's happened two other times do you think people

[52:43]do you think people who voted for that look back and kick themselves for voting for christopher

[52:48]cross over the wall oh they have to right i can tell you my granny loved christopher cross

[52:59]the other one of the other times where someone won best newcomer and best album was actually

[53:04]pretty recent in 2003 do you guys remember nora jones don't know why hey there's a beatles

[53:10]connection yeah if you can see nora jones live do it this album still like you've got a great band

[53:19]that plays behind her if you put this if you put this album on in an afternoon you're gonna have a

[53:24]great afternoon it's just such a nice you hear that you hear the stand-up bass rosie yeah

[53:29]it's so nice when she gets old enough she might turn into a granny

[53:35]robbie shank yes right that's the beatles connection oh yeah it's true

[53:40]yeah i think i was muted for my joke that nobody laughed

[53:44]there's only been one other time where someone has won best newcomer and best album and it may

[53:55]not be one that you guys think it's actually someone we've talked about on this podcast before

[53:59]and it turns out it was bob newhart back in 1960 with his comedy album oh man okay it's because he

[54:07]goes but but by the way i i i nobody will play baseball he literally introduces his joke by

[54:17]saying i think a conversation would sound a little something like this like the bit i do is what he

[54:22]does it's crazy this is essentially his conversation with abner doubleday the inventor of baseball is

[54:28]what he's doing here

[54:29]oh he's great i'm in i'm in you got you got nine guys on each side yeah turn it up rob and you got

[54:36]a pitcher and a catcher and they and they throw this ball for it and that's all there is to it

[54:44]all right i got a guy from the other side stands between them with a bat

[54:51]i see and he just watches him oh i see he swings at it he may or he may not swing at it

[54:59]depending on what

[55:01]if it looked like it were a ball

[55:06]uh what's a ball

[55:11]you've got this plate

[55:14]and as long as it's above the knees

[55:19]but below the shoulders

[55:23]yeah go ahead i'm listening

[55:26]i think i could have picked it up

[55:29]i'm serious

[55:30]and three balls

[55:34]not not three balls four balls

[55:38]why four balls

[55:40]nobody's ever asked you before

[55:44]so remember when we used to listen to all these beatles beatles albums and they would always lose

[55:51]to like bob newhart this is what was winning the grammys back in the 60s and he was the first time

[55:56]to win best newcomer best album and there's only happened five times lauren hill's one of them guys

[56:02]guess what god only knows has been bumped down to the number two best song of all time

[56:06]nobody will ever play baseball is now the number one song that rocked that rocked my fucking socks

[56:13]and you know what i i really believe i would kill if i was a comic back then i feel like i would just

[56:19]destroy like he was getting huge laughs there he didn't even make any like oh check out my big balls

[56:25]joke you know what i mean

[56:26]like you could really go in there and just crush all right so back to lauren hill here we go we are

[56:33]on final hour

[56:34]set in the background oh what do i hear oh you hear that

[56:42]is that jim horn back there is that bud beetle wailing on the flute

[56:50]this is a definite another flute song

[56:56]there's some flute for you coming right at you right in your ear holes i can't guys i've i've

[57:06]totally forgotten to tell you the best flute song of all time it's like a top three song

[57:11]one of my favorite songs of all time hang on we we've we've been over the flute how many times

[57:17]so many the first covered so many flute songs and i can't believe that i didn't i've never brought

[57:23]this up and i've got the album we need to hear it i saw it's on my

[57:26]top 100 list all this time the song is called nobody will ever play baseball

[57:30]we're gonna play all we're gonna play all two minutes again there's a little there's a little

[57:37]group and it might be the best opening flute of any song that's ever been made ever in the history

[57:43]of the world little song by the marshall tucker band jazz on this flute

[57:49]oh listen to that

[57:52]that's jazzy oh yeah

[57:56]you're right yeah the flute in the in the low register of the flute such a great bottom register

[58:01]of the flute it's kind of soulful i like it this guy's in the band he wasn't just like a session

[58:09]guy who came in for uh you know hey i'm gonna play one really one or two songs this guy was in

[58:14]the band his name was george tucker he was marshall's brother he was like marshall please

[58:19]and it's the same like it's going on our flute mega mix for sure flute on final hour is like in

[58:25]that same kind of like

[58:26]bottom register of the flute where maybe not bottom maybe it's more middle but it's like

[58:29]kind of soulful you know lonesome kind of sound i love it i was loved when i was selling knives

[58:34]for two days there was the bottom register of the knife where you would really cut through that last

[58:38]bit of the rope it's like the bottom register is like very just very brutal yeah i used to have a

[58:44]friend who was really short and he worked at a grocery store and he had to use the bottom register

[58:48]to check the glove all right i'm back baby i'm back bob newhart suck my baseballs baby i am back

[58:56]oh do you guys hear the harp there too you were talking about the harp yeah and then this has

[59:16]those marley girls i can't remember if we're gonna hear him or not noodling on the harp i

[59:21]noticed the harp but this is one of the reasons i asked aaron about about what lauren hill was

[59:25]playing in terms of instruments it turns out that grace paradise was playing the harp on this this

[59:30]one when grace paradise drove into that session and it was really dark out she was grace paradise

[59:35]by the dashboard lights oh my god russell's in here trying to drop science again i can't tell

[59:44]you guys how much time i spent trying to find the best songs with harp but there's a lot of

[59:48]bad songs with the harp on it russ goes to heaven he's like boo you suck and it turns out like a lot

[59:55]of people a lot of people have had aaron sing at their wedding he's been disappointing but it turns

[60:00]out there's an artist out there who is a wedding performer there is a wedding performer out there

[60:06]who actually plays the harp her name is debbie beck and so debbie beck's music can add a wonderful

[60:12]elegant touch to your wedding or special occasion she's been playing at weddings in the cleveland

[60:17]area for over 20 years weddings grand openings teas dinner cocktail hours funerals and corporate

[60:23]events i want to let you guys listen to debbie beck play stairway to heaven at a recent at a recent

[60:29]wedding she played at and tell me who does it better between lauren hill or beck russ i'd love

[60:34]to go to a wedding but i can't eat after 7 p.m do you have a program that would get me both of these

[60:39]things i hope we made some money from her for this yeah we got a phone number or website or

[60:48]anything russell they're pluripistry.com wait a minute i gotta get it hold on hold on hold on

[60:53]email email beck did it better at gmail.com

[60:56]beautiful it's really nice first dance at my wedding 15 minutes long i got a pen that works

[61:08]now russell what was that what was that website so who would you say who does it better lauren

[61:11]hill's not even playing the harp on this album debbie beck will play the play the harp at your

[61:17]wedding with that era would otherwise fail at so who does it better beck or lauren hill when it

[61:22]comes to the harp at weddings we're playing the harp at weddings beck did it better i'd probably

[61:26]rather have lauren attempting to play the harp no i'd rather ever just up

[61:31]debbie beck ceased into sis litter and is on its way right now the two guys who are not in their

[61:40]garages currently are the two guys that can stick along with these bits they're the only ones who

[61:43]figure out what's going on all right let's go we've got i used to love him

[61:52]is this a guns and roses song oh no that's i used to oh nice rob i like it

[61:58]now i wasn't gonna say that part is this the one with mary j

[62:03]i mean like this is one of the only dress this song drags on for me rosie

[62:08]i mean i feel that well no maybe you forget the aforementioned carlo santana

[62:13]then there's one more there's one more guest coming up a couple songs up

[62:16]that's when time stops that's what i'm waiting on

[62:20]forgive them father this is a sample from one from my favorite bob marley song of all time

[62:27]which is called concrete jungle it's an absolute banger i think you can hear it playing in the

[62:31]background right now i believe it thumps rob oh that's right oh jeez i'm trying to sorry

[62:36]i'm so sorry that's my bleep joke of the week do you do you guys think we could single-handedly

[62:41]like change the idea like a miley cyrus song is a banger and now they're all going to be

[62:45]thumpers or they can be something else can we influence music that much oh yeah tens of

[62:49]listeners

[62:50]with our tens of listeners i think we're up to 74 downloads i'll tell you what i don't see why not

[62:54]don't say that number out loud that's so depressing as i ignore my family on a

[63:01]saturday night daddy i sleep in my room please no no shut up we're talking about debbie beck

[63:09]and harpistry.com she plays the harp at weddings get out of here tell me that bit about baseballs

[63:13]again hey sorry kids ignoring you in childhood my bad there's 74 downloads

[63:20]sorry i didn't i thought that was a funny oh god i'm really striking out this week don't ever

[63:27]apologize aaron

[63:28]i like that what did that sound like yeah

[63:35]that's my new bumble profile headline

[63:42]you know russell there's a new dating app where if you're a transformer you can go on it

[63:48]it's called bumblebee

[63:50]no no turn your mic on is your mic on turn your mic on

[63:56]feels like every time rock tells a joke his mic goes out on him today matt you once you said on

[64:03]when we were doing the new list when lauren hill jumped up you said it was one of the best concerts

[64:07]you've ever seen how much of this album did she play at the concert you saw um i think she played

[64:11]four songs i went back to look at the list today it was in september of 2016 and uh my buddy nick

[64:16]from minneapolis and i you know i'm not sure if i'm going to be able to do that but i'm going to

[64:18]based on all of the stuff between this album and 2016 that happened in her life and go ahead and

[64:24]google it we're not going to get into it but you know i thought hey kind of like going to see like

[64:28]the rolling stones or somebody like that like hey we got to go see lauren hill if she's coming to

[64:33]concert because it might not ever happen again kind of yeah exactly you know and so we fully

[64:37]went in just waiting for her to not show up or her to not come or you know like be just a horrible

[64:44]concert and it was like a top three concert i've ever seen in my life and i'm like oh my god i'm

[64:48]ever seeing i saw her at first ave and she played um a third of her basically of this album so four

[64:56]or five songs this album she played four or five marley bob marley cover songs um and then uh she

[65:03]sprinkled in three four or five fuji songs as well and so i think she played 13 or 14 songs

[65:07]and it was phenomenal and she was great awesome and the band behind her was awesome and so if

[65:13]anybody ever ever gets a chance to go see her live absolutely jump on that

[65:18]opportunity it was it was phenomenal you know i i gotta say this next song every uh every ghetto

[65:24]every city this is one of my favorite genre of r&b song now rosie just said he hates a lot of r&b

[65:30]in fact he just said he hates most of it earlier uh and he does boo people at the apollo it's second

[65:36]on his list after vaccinations i believe exactly this is this i love this song so much what is

[65:41]happening i love yeah no excuse me i'm talking here i have the floor um i love this song where

[65:48]just quit growing up i would just walk no don't you're the only one who laughs somewhat at my joke

[65:53]um and i love these songs where they're talking about what it's like to grow up in a town it kind

[65:57]of reminded me that stevie wonder shy song where he's just kind of like describing like going to

[66:01]school and being in the city i love that idea of this i just i could not this was my go this goes

[66:06]on rob's mixtape mixtape of the week yeah this song she grew up in new jersey just for reference

[66:14]right i go to hooterville for the

[66:18]chicken wings right there's got to be stuff in here that only people from certain blocks would

[66:24]know right right i think some kids in uh school put graffiti on the bathroom wall once that said

[66:32]hooterville that didn't work i do love the the throwback to growing up

[66:41]mm-hmm all right so now we have our uh one of our final guest uh

[66:47]performers this is d'angelo holy shit this is when time just stops right

[66:52]i'm just gonna go take off my shirt and stare at my abs in the mirror

[66:58]during the rest of this one listen oh my god he's really doing it you ever try to listen to this

[67:04]song and just do the finger snaps these things are not easy oh to time don't be gross they're

[67:10]doing it come on my mother-in-law listens to this first russell's

[67:17]teach us the tender hooks now you got a showing us your finger snaps oh my god i'm gonna go put my

[67:21]my tinter hooks next to the finger symbols over there i did so i just want to say one thing that

[67:27]i've been thinking about about this song and then you guys can edit this out if you want or not i

[67:31]get into a youtube rabbit hole late at night as as you guys know and i was just in the garage

[67:36]watching it i was just watching an interview with quest love talking about how d'angelo was always

[67:43]telling him like no no play further behind the beat no no further behind the beat play it drunker

[67:47]behind the beat and this whole album is in the pocket on the beat it's driving rhythms it's dance

[67:53]hall rhythms it's reggae and then this song happens and all of a sudden those finger snaps happen

[67:59]so far behind the beat like d'angelo is able to just stop time and it's a miracle that these two

[68:06]were able to get together on a song they were supposed to do it feels like making love or feel

[68:10]like making love on voodoo and d'angelo had to do it by himself no one knows exactly why um but it

[68:17]like i just want to stop and appreciate the fact that these two absolute titans of our time were

[68:22]able to do one song together because it's an absolute miracle of music in my mind and we'll

[68:29]get into it we'll get d'angelo's coming up here pretty soon and we'll get into it but it's almost

[68:32]like the drummer just like slows down and it's like how long can i just hold that beat before

[68:40]actually and it's phenomenal you know it's great yeah it's great there's nothing else like it it's

[68:45]incredible it makes it very

[68:47]sonically interesting to hear that i have to say now but neither but neither of them can sell knives

[68:52]they got no knife selling skills whatsoever i'm not gonna lie rock your socks off i would buy a

[68:59]shit ton of knives from d'angelo he just sharp he like sharpens the knife across his upper left

[69:06]ab the whole time like d'angelo shows up and goes voodoo you want to buy some knives

[69:12]that's good you guys all

[69:16]right everything is everything this has a little known piano player at the time by the name of

[69:22]john legend on it there we go that i had no idea about that i thought that was so cool

[69:28]yeah and in his interviews right he talks about how he was famous on his college campus for playing

[69:35]keys on lauren hill's album and then he went on to become john legend also i think it's i don't

[69:41]know if she samples the donny hathaway track or not but there's a donny hathaway song called

[69:45]everything is everything

[69:46]so it's interesting that she's just using a previously named song for her for her song tell

[69:52]are you just saying words now are you just comparing the title of everything

[69:57]to other songs that have everything in it no like donny hathaway has a song called

[70:01]everything is everything i'm just saying like like she's i would take a theme who would take

[70:06]a theme because and then like just you know make a whole list out of like a theme like of one word

[70:11]out of a somebody points out i don't know there's there's more to a podcast than just making up word

[70:16]jokes

[70:16]yeah she's calling on that on purpose because we know she covered roberta flack on the score right

[70:22]so she knows donny and roberta so i think she's making a call back to we know that we definitely

[70:26]know that we definitely know she covered that killing me softly is a roberta flack song and

[70:31]roberta flack did duets with donny hathaway that's a lie russell i bought the album for a dollar i've

[70:37]got a i'm in my garage i can't go to my house oh yeah i can't believe you disrespect lauren hill like

[70:46]that by saying that she's unbelievable she yeah i wonder i wonder if she wasn't paying taxes on

[70:51]the revenue she made selling knives and that's why she did three months in prison for tax evasion

[70:56]did she do three months yeah three months legit in 2012

[71:01]the beatles and the tax man came for her oh no this is the only time the tax man was ever a good

[71:08]song was right now that's the same kind of joke i've been making this whole time and you guys

[71:11]laugh at that like crazy listen

[71:16]don't laugh at this aaron but this is the titular track uh miseducation

[71:19]this one's been running through my head you guys are so low class it's the what track

[71:27]hit pause hit pause hold on

[71:31]no keep going just talk man keep talking keep going what song is this

[71:38]it's the titular uh album keep going you just keep going no we need to go back to the beginning of

[71:45]this album

[71:45]if matt sees if matt sees what time it is right now in this album he's gonna throw a shit fit we

[71:51]gotta keep going yeah it's saturday night guys we're good i gotta say that listening to an hour

[72:00]and four minute long album after listening to two 40 minute albums in a row this thing seemed to go

[72:04]on for an eternity and what i realized is that in doing the research for this a little bit i didn't

[72:08]realize these last two were actually hidden tracks and they weren't actually yeah they

[72:12]weren't listed on the album so that turns it more into like a 50 minute album i don't know if it's

[72:15]a 50 minute album which would be a little bit more acceptable

[72:17]oh this just i mean

[72:22]it's banks yeah it thumps there's nothing that real thumps i'm sorry

[72:28]no you can't say it's very whaley that doesn't work

[72:33]is this is this your favorite song now what's your favorite song on the album matt and aaron

[72:39]doo-wop mine's doo-wop it's just it's uh iconic

[72:44]for me

[72:45]aaron what's your favorite song uh mine's nothing even matters but i'm a d'angelo stan so that that

[72:51]you know what about you russ actually obligated to say it was this your favorite song i think i

[72:56]like that i think i love the commercial hits i like the can't take my eyes out of a few and i

[73:01]love doo-wop well the correct answer by the way is every ghetto every city best song on there

[73:05]uh there's no wrong answer man there's no wrong answer tell him is also the third hidden track

[73:10]is is her take on baseball it's a cover of bob newhart you guys should check it out it's

[73:15]fantastic so there's there's four balls why four oh meanwhile you can hear somebody in the crowd

[73:23]i want a diet coke and some fries please like it's so wild all right tell him

[73:31]so this was recorded for the mel gibson movie conspiracy theory right like you

[73:40]hear a shout out the movie in the beginning of the track

[73:42]be all right

[73:45]are you serious yes

[73:48]at the opening she says conspiracy theory yeah i haven't seen it i have no idea

[73:55]i love the track of all the stuff she talks about and at the end she's like you know who i gotta get

[74:00]a real shout out to mel gibson no i don't i think i think the track was not supposed to be on the

[74:05]album it's supposed to be for the soundtrack and then they just threw it on the album but i i love

[74:09]it i love the lush harmonies i love the like multi-layered you know anytime you hear lauren's

[74:13]vocals it's like

[74:14]i love it i love it i love the lush harmonies i love the like multi-layered you know anytime you hear lauren's vocals it's like

[74:14]i love it i love it i love the lush harmonies i love the like multi-layered you know anytime you hear lauren's vocals it's like

[74:14]and now that we know we're probably never going to hear an album like this from her again

[74:18]this is a treasure right oh i absolutely this was really eye-opening to me how how much i enjoyed

[74:25]this again i think it's a little long and the skits really stressed me out and made me realize

[74:29]how fake it was that kids weren't making fun of the teacher all the time but uh i have to say i

[74:35]enjoyed it and i think with that we should get to my very cool already complimented rating section

[74:40]can we at least say before we get to the rating system though a little long in the

[74:44]skits get a bit annoying it doesn't sound anything like what we've been doing on this podcast for

[74:48]weeks right you know what she needs to have is just a little bit of self-restraint sometimes

[74:53]you can think things and not say them okay lauren hill take a little message from me

[74:59]a guy who doesn't want to admit his name on the podcast just down to like a whale status

[75:06]this album truly truly thumps so let's get our rating system here we've got is it rolling well

[75:13]toned it belongs to be 10th on the list is it rolling boned meaning it's too low on the list

[75:18]meaning it should have been a lower number uh it got boned on the list making or is it a rolling

[75:23]groan you did not like listening to this it made you groan and not in a good way aaron

[75:27]the groans am i first am i up for he groans in a he groans in a gross way that i don't like

[75:36]all right russ what's your final rating

[75:39]i really enjoy this album i don't know what i'm going to do with it but i'm going to do it

[75:43]it was in the 300s or something before and hearing that it just boggles my mind how this could have

[75:48]ever been that low even you guys were talking about kind of the low points on the album

[75:52]and even the low points to me those songs are way better than some of the low points on the

[75:57]albums we've listened to so far but i just wanted to share this quote that lauren hill

[76:01]had about this album with you guys and this is what really stuck with me can i share it quick

[76:05]let's hear it the miseducation of lauren hill it has a lot to do with how i figured out some

[76:11]things from my life it doesn't mean i'm going to do it again i'm going to do it again i'm going to

[76:13]necessarily mean miseducation like i didn't do well in school but it has to do with figuring out

[76:18]about your aspirations and your dreams and not those dreams and those aspirations that some

[76:23]might have for you it's an album about movement and growth and inspiration i want to encourage

[76:29]all those who are moving from one period to another especially those graduating from one

[76:33]stage in their life to another whether that be school or any life lesson in general i encourage

[76:38]you to be strong to be independent to be positive and to know that you can choose your own destiny

[76:42]and your own path

[76:43]i just loved hearing that like sometimes we read these you know bob dylan doesn't say shit about

[76:48]his albums like that's just a beautiful thought and it's something that people can take and use

[76:52]so just from i love the music and i read that and it totally resonated with me so rolling well tone

[76:58]you know what lauren hill's right i'm gonna quit my job and do this podcast full time all right

[77:04]let's do it hey rob if you want to work for me and sell knives i take 30 of what you make

[77:13]10 of everybody underneath you that's a pretty big cut all right so

[77:20]uh all right so oh no i guys i'm gonna say it again i can't help it big cut all right

[77:28]rob it it's too bad you never got snipped back in the day that you got cut by one of those knives

[77:34]huh snip that a knife does were you going around telling people when you're selling these knives

[77:43]oh no what a disaster your mother-in-law listens to this show right yeah well actually so i've been

[77:50]joking about that but she did reference a birthday candles bit the other day and jenny was like how

[77:55]do you know about that i've never told you about that and she said uh never mind so even she was

[77:59]too embarrassed to admit to her own daughter that she listens to this podcast that's how bad it is

[78:03]my own mother-in-law will not listen to it and then i immediately thought of about 10 jokes i

[78:06]made where i was like oh no oh no oh no so anyway just to let you know i did quit my job and this

[78:13]has been great working with you guys other 490 albums not as good as this one all right so moving

[78:18]on all right final rating aaron what do you think yeah when i when when the new list came out i was

[78:25]initially i went through a roller coaster on this album because i love this album so much i listened

[78:29]to it so much when it first came out uh and i've had so much fun listening to it over the last week

[78:33]uh but i initially thought yeah i'm stoked to listen to this again it's definitely the in the

[78:37]right spot and then i started thinking like this can't be better than uh i was thinking of it as a

[78:43]hip-hop album i was thinking it can't be better than wu-tang enter the 36 chambers it can't be

[78:48]better than fear of a black planet it can't be better than ready to die but um listening over

[78:53]the last week it's more than a hip-hop album it's our first uh entry on the list of albums that

[78:59]relate to uh the bob bob marley sound but it's so much more than that and i know that this album

[79:06]meant so much to so many people uh and as russell put it far better better than i uh lauren hill um

[79:13]just understood the human condition and was able to speak to everyone on top of being one of the

[79:19]great vocalists of our time and easily the one of the top five mcs of her era so i would say rolling

[79:25]well toned well putting her in the top five of her era that does not sound like the nicest compliment

[79:30]uh but that's what i meant to say it's nice work rosie i'm gonna edit out my slam on you right at

[79:36]the end of the podcast uh wait i was trying to laugh so guess what it's back in baby people laugh

[79:43]at my joke of the joke all right so sorry aaron you laughed at my presentation yep you gotta buy

[79:48]those nines all right that's a sale uh so here's the deal i that's i think it's a good point though

[79:56]aaron because this isn't a hip-hop album this is a lot like um in uh don't stay with me here stay

[80:02]with me this is a lot like it's like his shoes in the matrix it's neo soul and that's gonna be

[80:12]there so it's

[80:13]can anybody else hear rob

[80:17]i think there's a zoom issue i think there's a zoom issue

[80:23]we can't hear you i just emailed my job they will not hire me back okay so uh matt what's

[80:31]your final rating oh i'm gonna go absolutely this is rolling boned this is uh you know this is

[80:37]you put kind of the top two female albums that we've got on the list so far this up against

[80:42]joni mitchell right they both did everything from writing to producing to finishing to basically the

[80:50]whole thing and i know rosie we're gonna call we're gonna qualify that quantify it qualify it

[80:54]by saying that there was some backup musicians that felt like they've got uh boned rolling

[81:01]rolling boned um i'm gonna go with that she was kind of the brains behind what happened and that

[81:07]they you know they they were very good their craft but i think she came out she's got a couple of

[81:12]uh um marketable hits that that you know were out in the top 40 sphere where joni mitchell didn't

[81:20]and i think from a from just from a cultural aspect this album did way more than anything

[81:28]the joni mitchell's album did not to not to put it way underneath anything but i think these two

[81:34]albums could absolutely be switched where joni mitchell still in the top 10 but i believe this

[81:39]is above it so i think she i think this album is definitely

[81:42]rolling boned i love it when uh matt and aaron fight rob what's your final ranking i'm gonna

[81:48]tell you for this album i think this gets a rolling harmonization hey guys remember when

[81:53]back on the bully people used to harmonize i think it sounded a little something like this

[81:57]guys what was that one that we really liked that's not the one we like

[82:06]i'm not gonna lie that totally

[82:12]banged

[82:12]banged and this has been back you did it better

[82:16]tell me about it you got you got nine guys on each oh wait this isn't the right song i played

[82:23]the wrong so that's okay that's my bad my bad

[82:26]but you're telling me you want to hear

[82:28]but you're just too lazy to look

[82:35]can't take it out now it's too late

[82:42]i was like who's that somebody man's garage laughing at our podcast and i realized no that

[82:49]wouldn't be better so there's literally no way i could edit that out i i i think just jenny just

[82:56]cut off rob's microphone with one of my cutco knives that i sold her a few weeks back i was

[83:00]gonna say it'd be funny if at the end russ comes in and goes cut