Television: Marquee Moon (1977)

[00:00]In 2020, four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums as decided by Rolling Stone magazine. This resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music, excoriated the order, and led us to making this podcast. We are far from experts, and we promise to do almost no research. All opinions are our own, unless you disagree. Please sit back and enjoy. Did it better. We are all the way up to album 107. That was the neighbor. That was the guy who lived above James Bond. 107. From 1977, this is Television with Mark E. Moon. Best joke of the podcast. You know what? Shut it down, okay? Let's just shut it down right now. We're done. I think we're good, actually. We're all set. Best joke we're going to hear. Who's got the closing joke to close it out? Mark E. Moon, first Pokemon ever. Listen, let's get into it, guys. You know, I've got some big announcements today.

[01:00]I'm excited. There's some stuff going on. One of us is wearing a cowboy hat. Don't want to get into who. It couldn't be any of us. We don't want to get into it. But listen, before we get everybody... One of us is also wearing assless chaps. Oh. Not going to get into that either. Not over Zoom or not. Nope. I might get into that. We'll see. I might get into it. Rob, you're in Minnesota, aren't you? If you come over, you can get into that. It's like somebody out there, there's a Speedo manufacturer. That's taking the other part that they're cutting off for those assless chaps. Like, hey, this is easy money. I like that idea, though. Nevermind. It's like you're in the discount pile at the store and there's ass to chaps. And you're like, yeah, I don't know. They're a good deal. But it's the one thing I like is not having the... Okay. Listen, here's the bottom line. Okay. We need to start making some money on this podcast.

[02:00]Okay. And to do that, we need more listeners. Our listeners have plateaued for the summer. Our listenership for the Rolling Stone magazine is exactly the same. Our Rolling Stones is exactly the same as the Allman Brothers. We need to get that up. We need to feel like we're doing good things. Where is it at, Rob? How many people we got listening? Well, I'll tell you, we did just hit 30,000 downloads for our lifetime. 31,000. Which is insane. That's a lot. And anyway, here's the deal. We need our listeners. I blame our listeners, not us. We're doing all we can. Okay. We get together once a week. What more do you want from us? We need the listeners. We put a lot into the prep of this thing. Yeah. Well, yeah, exactly, man. We're all doing equally equal parts. What are we listening to talking about today? We've all been prepping. We've all been making lists, you know, equally. Like, I think it's fine, actually. Reading Wikipedia. But here's the thing. Oh, no. Then you know a lot of what I'm going to say today. Here's the thing. We need our listeners. And I know this is humiliating. Tell other people about the podcast. Okay. And if that doesn't work, do what I always do. And secretly airdrop it to people in public.

[03:01]They love that stuff. You guys, if I were to start an adult movie with my assless chaps, would the name of the movie be Marquee Moon? Oh, my God. I just got it. I was focusing on the marquee. And I was like, like the Funky Bunch where he's in his BVDs? Feel it. Feel it. Do we have a radio this week or not? I'll tell you what. I always. I always wanted to get that barbell he had in that video with the two concrete cinder blocks on the barbell. He's just lifting weights. And he's like, yeah, yeah. I knew we'd get into some Marky Mark talk. I was thinking we'd get it into the second half of the show, but let's start it right now. Let's let's get into some wall burgers. I liked at the end of the video and he's where he's walking down the street. He's like, I hope I don't meet any nonwhite people on this walk. Otherwise, who knows what I'll do to him? All right. Let's get into the radio. Here we go. What's up, everybody? Welcome to K-Rob. K-R-O-B. Listen, I got one request for you. Tell somebody about this show.

[04:01]Find somebody you think would like it. Go tell them. Because I want to be rich. Oh, yeah. I want more listeners. Yes. I want the now. Oh, yeah. Good sound. I want a whole lot more so this show can become a cash cow. Yes. So make me rich. Make me rich. And tell your boss. Oh, yeah. You can act surprised. You can act surprised when Rob talks about his boss. So post on Facebook and tell your friends. Air drives enough, the soap's on the plane. We need, we need more. People die to show. So I can make some more dough. And hire new. New co-host.

[05:00]Oh, wait a minute. What do you want me to do? I thought I edited that out. Wait a minute. Make some more dough? So if you're making more dough, that's implying that you made some dough? Listen, the school year started. I want to be able to quit at any time and make this my full-time occupation. Do you think any of our listeners would pay a dollar per episode if we were to put this on Patreon? Matt, would your friends pay a dollar or no? God, I hope not. Can you imagine how depressing that would be if there was just one listener? And it was my wife paying a dollar. Aaron's going broke because his wife is listening to the podcast. We can't afford this. We got a mortgage now. Where's all this money going? It turns me on when they make fun of my husband. That's what I like about this. Every week, Aaron balances his checkbook and they're one dollar off. Where is this money going? Listen, I've got three guys here, okay, who would see no evil, hear no evil, and speak a little bit of evil.

[06:08]But, you know, we love motorcycle jumps. You talked over my joke. We like motorcycle jumps. It's evil. Oh, my God. I'm so bad at that. I've got Matt in Minneapolis. Matt, how are you doing today? Good. Good. I'm doing pretty good. I've actually had some people listening. You know, I've told them about the new episode, you know, that they just. I shouldn't be listening, but they've asked, like, what are you doing? And they always say, oh, yeah, that one guy, he's got a lot of good stories, doesn't he? I do. No, they're talking about Rob. Yeah, I was going to talk about Rob and his balls. So it's pretty good. It's like, well, I subscribe to a blog where people talk about blowing up their paddle boards and walking out to the beach. But now I get an audio form. I love these stories. If you don't know what you're talking about, go fuck yourself. We don't need you. And I've got from Minnesota.

[07:01]Save a horse, ride a cowboy wearing a cowboy hat. I've got Russell. How are you doing, Russell? Rob, is it OK if I spin a tale about the night where my diction gave you friction? This is like the third straight episode. You keep referencing that maybe you and I have slept together. That's a deep conversation. No, it's not that. And out in California. And Aaron is in California. Congratulations on his new job. He's working for an agriculture business. He is the executive and executing initiatives operator. He's the EIEIO. Aaron, how are you doing tonight? Oh, that's very nice. Well, I think you can tell where Russell and I's brains went on this. Because I had a joke. I'm going to say it anyway. Rob, I hope my diction feels nice in your ear tonight. Oh, no. Guys, we've just had a good time. We've just had a good time. We've just had a good time. We've just had a good time. We've just run out of ideas.

[08:00]Who cares? We should have ended this after that 007 joke. Listen, today we are skipping the voicemail. We are getting right into the section I like to call. Oh, a list? No. No one knows what's going on. What is your birthday video? Where we are going to go back. We are going to celebrate a birthday that we missed the other week. And talk about. We are going to see. Russell, of course, turned 42 last week. It was a big deal. Bells were rung. I thought we talked about it. Garments were rendered. I know, but then I didn't think about it. I didn't actually reply. If you listen to the episode very carefully, I never actually said happy birthday or anything like that. So I thought to myself, listen, the 42nd birthday. Who cares? Nobody cares. It's the dumbest birthday. It's the worst. But half your life ago, Russell, half your life was a very important birthday. And that was your 21st birthday. And so right now we are going to see what were the number one songs. During each of our 21st birthday.

[09:01]So Russell, what year was your 21st birthday? And I can edit this out if you want me to. Here we have from Russell's birthday in 2001. What was the number one song on the charts? Oh, the answer is. Alicia Keys. We go right to 30 seconds, of course. Fallen by Alicia Keys. Wow. That was her first single, wasn't it? This is such a bop, Russell. Yeah, Russell. I don't know. I don't know for sure if this was playing at Brothers when I barfed all over the table and was told to leave. But it might have been playing when I got upset with myself and punched a brick wall on the way home. I was going to save that story. I wasn't going to make you tell it. You know, Russell, I once got kicked out of Brothers. I'm pretty sure. I think that happens at Brothers. Yeah, if you haven't got kicked out of Brothers, you haven't really been in Brothers. Guys, big news. My kid just came in crying her eyes out.

[10:01]Taylor Swift just announced a new album, which caused my child to start crying. So this is the life I have now. I just wanted one son. I mean, was that too much to ask for? So I once got kicked out. What was it? Was it Brothers? I got where the guy said to me, you've drank too much. You need to leave. And I said, I don't have a jacket. It was like January. I was like, in the most Robert spots ever. I was like, I don't have a jacket. So he said. Uh, okay, well, you need to sit at this table. We're going to bring you pizza. And I was like, I think I was there for that episode as well. Yeah. I was like, what? This is what happens when you get kicked out of bars. I should be doing this all the time. And then Joe sat next to me. And of course, immediately, like three attractive women sat next to us. I was like, oh my God, this is the greatest night of my life. This is the best. Turns out going to bars is the worst. Getting kicked out of the bars is absolutely the best. Aaron, 21st birthday for you. What do we got here? Oh, I don't know. Have you ever heard this? What is your, uh, what's the last four of your social Rose?

[11:02]Destiny's Child. Yes. Independent women. Now you forget about this video is that this was mostly about Charlie's Angels. Charlie's Angels. Right. The very weird period of time where the videos were also incorporating the movies that the songs were starring in. Wow. This is not a sound like this is, you would know exactly. You can play, hear this beat, you know, right where you're at. This is. I mean, guys, this makes me want to go watch Charlie's Angels. Oh my God, guys. Rocking Dallas. Are we, are we worse off as a society because Charlie, because Destiny's Child is not together anymore? No. Cause we just got everything that Beyonce put out after that. To be fair, I was just asking the question. I already knew the answer was no. So that's on me.

[12:00]Just a huge part of my college experience is going to a friend's dorm room and listening to her listen to Destiny's Child. Talk about Destiny's Child and me having absolutely no idea what's going on at any point. It's actually not my favorite song about independent, independent women. My favorite independent woman song is by Bootsy Badass. I-N-D-E-P-E-N-D-E-N-T. Do you know what that means? She got her own crib. She got her own car. Wow. Aaron, that is going to be a real pain for me to find. I know I'm going to have to go to Vivo or something to find that song. He was probably a little boozy back then. I'll find it for you. Matt, what is your birthday? It's like 2010 or whatever. He is a millennial. 2002. Okay. Oh my God. Oh man. It's a little somebody named Raymond. R&B was just killing the charts those years, right? I mean, when I think back to my turning 21 and I was making Sweet Love in my dorm room so much, this were the beats that were playing. Was this it? You got it bad?

[13:02]Yeah. This was a song actually he wrote about his Peloton scene. A lot of people don't know that, but it's... This is horrible. As a man, do you ever... I mean, I don't want to get into uncomfortable discussions about orientation. I'm never sure. Should I play a man if I'm trying to set the mood or should I play a lady or should it be no vocals? I don't understand. I don't know what to do as a straight man. Easy. Easy for me. You play a man, the sexier the man, the better. That's why Prince... I mean, D'Angelo and Prince, right? I guess. Yeah. Or Goat. Prince, D'Angelo. That way, who's ever making Sweet Love with you, thinks about Usher, it's going to be way better than... I mean, okay, everybody right now, just close your eyes. I'm going to get real close to the Zoom camera. Just close your eyes and when I say open, open them. Did you shave today or not? Open them. You know what I mean? Like, would you rather open them or not? Open your eyes and see that or close your eyes and think of Raymond Usher.

[14:00]You do have a good mustache right now. Between you and my wife, that's one person who thinks that, so I appreciate that. Her response to my mustache was, I'm sleepy. Is it insulting, by the way, if your wife, as soon as she sees you coming to the bedroom, she takes melatonin? That's insulting, right? Like, that's a sign. Is she sitting right by the bed waiting for you every time? Yeah. No, it's... She tries to sneak it. Rob, I'm curious. Matt typically doesn't have facial hair. Aaron, I don't remember you having facial hair. If you did, it's been a long time. Rob, when was the first time did your wife ever give you any pushback when you first grew a beard or a mustache or anything? My wife doesn't care about anything I do. I'll say it again. I've had stuff on my face so many times and I leave. I talk to her for like 10 minutes. I leave. I go to work and they're like, oh, you have toothpaste all over your face. I'm like, what? Why didn't she say anything? She does not care.

[15:00]She does like it when I'm... Here's the thing. She likes it when I'm clean shaven and when my hair is long and curly. So what she really wants to do is date middle school Rob. You know what I mean? Like, she wants me to flannel buttoned all the way up, working on my gang science for some reason. I was like, oh my God, I can do blood. Is she also into hyper color shirts? She was... We're at the point right now where I'm trying to get my one kid to learn how to tie her shoes so when she goes to middle school, she... She can like tie her shoes. And my wife is like, God, do you know anybody who can't tie their shoes by the start of middle school? And I was like... I was like, certainly not by the end of seventh grade. I don't know anybody. To be fair, Rob, I still don't... I don't know if I have ever seen you wear shoes with laces. I think you always have like slip-ons or Crocs or something like that. Don't you? Oh, yeah, it's true because I do have some with laces and I just leave them open and put my feet in. That's my fat guy move of not wanting to bend over. Matt, you look a little facial hairy today.

[16:00]Does your wife ever give you crap other than when you do your mustache? Oh, yeah. Like I hadn't... I got brothers that grow facial hair in like three hours, right? They also got a lot of back hair, things like that. So it's a trade-off. Real men. It's a trade-off thing, right? But no, so COVID, we went up to North Dakota for two months and I took that opportunity to not shave. And I had not ever gone like more than a week without shaving. So I never had... A mustache or goatee or, you know, the big chops or anything like that. So then, of course, I grew this long. It wasn't that long, relatively speaking, but for me, it was longer beard and then had to cut a mustache in just to do it. And there was a pretty good video of her like physically reacting to the sight of me with a mustache and not a very great way and then laughing at me and then hiding her eyes. So not every once in a while, like I said, you got to cut in a mustache. You leave all the rest of the hair in the sink, right?

[17:01]Just to let them know that you're taking care of yourself. Good for them. When wives hide their eyes like that, Matt, we call that the pulling a Raymond Usher move further. You're thinking about Usher. For sure. Raymond Usher. Listen, am I the only guy who still calls me Raymond Usher? Is that what he calls you? Raymond Usher? That's his first name, I think. No, I think it's Usher Raymond, but don't let me say it. I think Raymond is his middle name. I could be wrong, but I'm looking him up at the... I'm looking him up at the phone book, okay? Wait, would that be Raymond Usher? No, even then it would be. Yeah, it would be. God, I've been looking... I mean, that's the thing. You try to look him up at the phone book, you're going to you because you're like, oh, I'm looking for my buddy Usher. You're looking for your brother, buddy, Mr. Raymond. And all you're finding, Rob, is a bunch of professionals that are willing to come and carry the statues at your wedding. I call their house and they're like, oh my God, we're falling. Yes. Aaron, do you ever try to grow facial hair and had pushback from your wife or not?

[18:03]I mean, she doesn't really have to give me any pushback because it looks ridiculous. So I don't even have to, you know, it's like I try, but it just doesn't really work. So, I mean, I do definitely, I do the occasional joke mustache, but it just doesn't even go over that well because I can't even like keep a straight face. But Aaron, you don't, you don't strike me as a guy who shaves every day though. No, I shave twice a week. It's too dangerous for Aaron. He could cut himself. He could hurt himself very badly. My hands. You guys know the story. They're sliced up. He's like, oh my God, what happened to you? Is it a mountain lion outside? What happened? He's like, I shaved. I'm in a work call right now. So your, so your wife doesn't give you a grief for like not shaving for two or three days. That's not an issue, right? Not an issue at all. No, not an issue. Is that something you've experienced? Yeah, it sounds like Russell's trying to work something out. I might need to go to the dating advice corner before we get to rolling going. I'm just going to tell you, Russell, when you're dating somebody and they tell you to

[19:01]do something, just do it. Who cares? Like, like it's like, oh no, I'm going to have a mustache and look so much better. No, you're not. You're not. You're going to look like the same face and there's some hair attached. Like it's not, that's to everybody, Russell, not just you. Don't get sad about it. Um, all right, listen, my birthday, of course. I remember it because when you have a birthday in May, okay. And you turned 21. It's so ridiculous. It turns out that this is the dumbest thing during college. That's 100%. Finals time. Nobody wants to hang out with you. Okay. Uh, only a couple of friends will go to the bar. Meanwhile, as you recall, other people's 21st birthdays, tons of people are at the bar and you're doing prairie fires. You're doing stoplights. You're doing cement mixers. Okay. Stop. Actually, I can't do this anymore. So the hit song on, uh, May 13th, 2001. Let's see it right now. Oh God. It's a hot sauce on feet. Hot sauce on feet? Fuck yeah. Huh. Hot sauce on feet. Hot sauce on feet. Oh yeah. Oh God. It's so horrible. Oh yeah.

[20:00]I didn't realize this was so big back then. It's no independent woman, but I do remember making love to this in my dorm room. Hot sauce all over the feet. Oh, my feet are so fucking hot. Oh no. My mouse isn't working anymore. I can't click any buttons. Look at the fucking hot sauce. Hey, you know what's the best part about this? The hot sauce on the feet? Have a pause and quick wrap so we can, we can hear. Can't, the mouse doesn't work. I can't hear you. There's too much hot sauce on feet. The best thing about this is the poster for this is some guy named Spunk McCullins, who has 506 subscribers, twice as many subscribers than we have for our podcast. Fucking hot sauce on feet guy is twice as popular as our podcast. 507. I just subscribed. I want to see what this guy's coming out with. Here's the song from 2001. Oh, this is the worst. What is this? What is this? This song is called Trapped in a Balloon. Oh no.

[21:00]This is also something we would have done on episode zero where we're showing videos that nobody knows what the hell's Robyn's doing. Guys, this is not getting edited out, don't even think about it. Oh no. Guys, he's trapped in the balloon. He hates it. The balloon. So the guy has trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. He's trapped in the balloon. I hate this. My fellow Americans just wanted to say I love that hot sauce on feet. It's my favorite part of the show. Thank you very much. We're never recording on a Sunday night again.

[22:00]This is not worth being tired tomorrow. Here we go. It's not worth being tired. Your alarm goes off, you wake up and think back and you're like, "No." Not even Usher Raymond, Usher Common Raymond would put up with this. All right. Oh, guys. I mean. Oh, Jed. Nice. All right. Janet. There we go. All for you. Once again, the R&B just dominating. Can you explain to me why is Janet Jackson not around anymore? Why do I not see her after that Super Bowl thing? Why has she disappeared off the face of the earth? She's not pairing with anybody. She's not being featured on anything. I mean, she's Janet fucking Jackson. Why am I not seeing her? I think the Super Bowl thing was so bad that she either- I think it was. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

[23:00]I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think she started a podcast with Spunk McCullins. I saw a post on Twitter that said that Rhythm Nation will break certain computers. That playing Rhythm Nation will break certain computers. I saw that. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. It's got the frequency. Rhythm Nation. Rhythm Nation. First, 30 seconds of the video is not music. It's like the cinematic thing where he's just, does Stained really get to do a cinematic video where you don't get the music right away? No way, right? They haven't heard that. And who doesn't love a video with like four guys

[24:00]playing their instruments in a dark room with a bunch of candles? What is going on? If you were an alternative band in the thousands, you had to make this video. It's like that Korn video with the bullets going through, you know, it's just guys in a room playing. Is this going on American Idol? No. No. No. Now I'm going to play a quick game. Is this Stained or Live? Just look at them. I mean, they look, all these bands look the same to me. All right. Or is it Creed? Is Creed the third one or not? That's Bandist. Don't say that, man. Well, man will get mad if you start insulting Creed. So I agree. Best song out of that whole group, Hot Sauce on Feet. Still the number one winner. We only do this bit when I'm at the cabin because it's so good. But you know what? Let's get into rolling going. Aaron, we don't have any more time to talk about Hot Sauce on Feet. It's time to see what everybody's up to. It's time for rolling going. Strangely enough. Oh, yeah. I am going to go first with my rolling going. I want to make a big announcement. We are up to 31,000 downloads.

[25:00]We have, we're just getting bigger and bigger. Things are going great. Definitely things haven't cooled off here in the summer. I want to tell you real quick. Rob, that's 31,000 an episode, right? Not so much. And let's not do see how many episodes they are and then like compare that. You're saying total. Total downloads ever. Out of how many episodes? Well, I actually was thinking about it in terms of years. Don't do that. I can tell you right now. Do not do that. I don't think that we've been doing this now for about two years. And speaking of two years, okay. I figured it was finally time where we set up. If you go to T public slash user slash Beck did it better. I have an exciting announcement. We now have a T public merch store where you can get a merch store. You can get, if you want, all we have right now are the very boring Beck did it better logos. Although there is one that is look, makes it look like it's a podcast player.

[26:01]And right now we have everything from t-shirts to crew neck sweatshirts, baseball t-shirts. Guys, look at this baseball t-shirt. Wouldn't you know a certain coach, maybe who would want a Beck did it better baseball t-shirt? I mean, come on. I probably know a football coach that would like a version, but no sleeves. Well, you know what? All these have sleeves on it. Are you in luck? Because Beck did it better also has tank tops. Yeah. Okay. You can pick the color. I've got the logo. I can't remember any of the funny t-shirts we're going to do. So right now we just have the boring logo. But we also have, I mean, what says Beck did it better? There's better than something Aaron would just throw away. If you send it to his house, we've got Beck did it better masks. You can get those at the store. Yeah. They're not in any, they're not in 95. So I'm not going to like, it wasn't wearing a cloth mask anymore. Look at this. You can get a Beck did a better throw pillow pillows. Okay. For all of our listeners. I guarantee the listeners to this podcast have too many pillows on their bed. Way too many. You can get a Beck did or better pillow.

[27:00]And finally, who doesn't want school years coming school starting? Who doesn't want a Beck? Beck did a better notebook. Send your kids to school with a Beck did a better notebook. Russell will get mad at you for doing that. But it's a great idea. It'll satisfy everybody. Go to T public slash user slash expected a better slash notebook. Now the plan is what happens when we make hundreds of dollars doing this? I have a question for you guys. We probably get sued by Beck for using his name and making money off of it. You can, you can use names. Trust me. There's a ton of Beck t-shirts. Actually, I looked it up already. And you know what? We're really going to get nailed is by CBS. When you've been using that. Howling sound from. For the last few weeks. We'll never know. Cause they'll never hear it. We only have 109 downloads a week. So I'm not going to play that again. Russell. Oh no, I did. I put it on loop. I forgot. Rob. If we did get sued and you were on the witness stand and they said, did you use this soundbite? What would you, how would you respond? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Hey, Rob, if we did get sued and you were on the witness stand and they

[28:00]or that you never know how you respond so listen here is what we're gonna do i do pay 120 bucks a year for hosting this podcast but i it's come to my realization that i've said listen all because i want to donate money from this from a charity we'll find a charity to donate money from this that we make and i wanted to say after 120 but hearing that coming out of my mouth right now realizes how bad of a person that makes me sound so i'm just gonna tell you right now all the money that you uh send us for getting you know a kid's notebook listen you have a baby in your life okay you're listening to this podcast that's messed up we have onesies we have better onesies okay we've got all sorts of stuff do we have tapestries okay no yes we do we have little we have tapestries if listen you've got a castle you need to decorate it you got to have some tapestries get it back to a better tapestry we will find a charity uh i'll have aaron pick out a charity so everybody can get mad at him and not me

[29:02]and we will find somewhere to donate that money to if you are such a big loser and the other plan is if we think of a good t-shirt i can make it and put it up here and then we don't get sued as much it looks like they're on sale wow are they on sale for two more days robert what's going on with the pricing there so i'm actually going to tell you that when t public goes on sale something weird happens we actually don't get as much money they take the money from the person when it goes on sale so i'm gonna i'm gonna publicly request that you don't buy it on sale i know you listeners are rich okay i've been looking at the demographics don't get it when it's on sale uh but yeah yeah if you're if you're getting this in a time machine from two weeks ago they were definitely on sale so that is the exciting news guys uh if you can think of any funny t-shirts i am probably going to make the breathalyzer free breathalyzer blow here i think that is a classic i don't know is there anything else other free any shirts we should put on the store yeah we need a k-rob k-r-o-b oh my god big face of you oh yeah maybe a big face of me that's the only kind of face i got man look at

[30:05]this thing it's huge um mustache mustache and all maybe not maybe not in a speedo yet but a lot of our listeners has have had fun looking at that one that you sent everybody in the that's i bet that's yeah that's kind of my raymond usher you know close your eyes and think about it uh honestly i think russell's face right now where he's just looking thinking about his is a perfect shirt that we're gonna put in the store that's what we need on a t-shirt yeah and that reminds me russell rolling going how is it going with you rolling going things are going great i was actually down in nashville i took a flight tonight so maybe we could i had a question about a flight oh it's time for beck did it better plain old story time all right all right this is not a shirt right stories that i like tell us about the trip your own home i mean it feels like it should be a shirt with russell

[31:02]i think a thumbs down with announcement in progress and a thumbs down that would be a good shirt for us that's actually the exact thing i wanted to ask you guys about is tonight i had a flight back and i was on sun country no no no you need to borrow some money russell i can loan you some money if you need some no so there's no tv screens on this flight and i was wondering from you guys do you put the thumb down to the left or do you put the thumb down to the right or do you during announcements if you're if you have no movie to be interrupted on or no thumb up or no thumb down or no i would have to say i would have to say no i do want to remind you the thumb down on announcements is from me sitting with my kids and not being able to watch a movie and then putting my thumb down way high up in the air so everyone can see that i'm giving a thumbs down thus humiliating my children much when i much like when i say frank you when i go through the drive-thru that still gets them every time they hate that i think if there's no movie and you put your thumbs down during an announcement it's gonna look like you're just an anti-seatbelt guy

[32:01]russell like you you do not want to know how the seatbelt works you do not care how to unlatch it you do not care where the exits are it's gonna be very strange just like hey this guy hates i'm gonna surprise you guys i actually kind of am anti-seatbelts like what the fuck like we don't need to be wearing seatbelts anymore like that's just dumb like just that just about turned his computer off this guy doesn't like seatbelts i mean come on like like that's all window dressing like if we really needed a seatbelt we're dead anyway just like this sounds like a guy live their lives sounds like a guy who works in the healthcare industry and he wants to make a little bit more money i i wear mine i don't cause problems don't worry i just i will say i was in greece and a guy there had the um bit where he didn't put in a seatbelt but it would make a noise and so instead he had bought something attached with a wire that he put across himself and then plugged into the seatbelt and he was like oh my god i don't know what to do with this seatbelt and i was like bro just put it in a seatbelt like at that point you have a wire across

[33:00]yourself that's plugged in just put out the seatbelt but he hated seatbelts so much and i gotta say actually it made me feel so much safer when you're in a car with a guy who is not wearing a seatbelt and he's driving it's gonna be the safest drive you've ever seen because he's i mean it's it's his life on the line i actually had a seatbelt issue when last time i was on some country i sat down and wallace was in the window seat and he was like oh there's something all over the seatbelt we thought he was like messing with us it was like there was like leftover gum or something on the seatbelt that's not right so i took the seatbelt off the seat and handed it to the flight attendant they looked at me like why is this seatbelt off the seat and eventually they cleaned it up and the pilot himself came back and and spoke to us and apologized for there being gum on our seatbelt so i gotta admit i stopped listening after you took the seatbelt off the seat what are you talking about you can unfit you can unhook the seatbelt like and see where it's hooked to the seat you just pulled up i probably put you in federal jail for that what are you doing you took the seatbelt off a plane and go over it yeah you heard he hates

[34:03]seatbelts of course he knows this guy who was thumbs down during the speech is now handing me a seatbelt piece this guy really hates seatbelts if you're gonna take apart the seatbelt dude for your kid first before you take apart your own seat i mean rosie you remember back in the 1900s right yeah before you had to wear a seatbelt i mean you get in a car accident you hit your head on the windshield right and you say damn i'm not gonna do that again right but all these people with their seatbelts are getting accidents left and right and you know the air the airbags are going and they're walking away just fine i mean so that's why that's why there's so many more accidents these days somebody's been spending a lot of time in north dakota by the sounds of it he's got so many ideas he's coming in the podcast now we gotta listen to that damn bell ringing at you about every 40 seconds when you don't plug the hook the damn thing up right a true power move yeah do you remember that what did you guys ever have a car where when you when you shut the door it came around or it was like yes yes yeah you gotta unhook it you gotta unhook the automatic the first time i saw that i was like goddamn the future is

[35:07]here you know what i mean like this car is doing my seatbelt for me and then when i actually had one i was like wait it's not doing anything i still gotta do the lap belt like i want full yeah belts coming out like like inspector gadget style there's nothing there's nothing in my same you rub i mean i stepping on some gum in public and then having it on the bottom of your shoe and trying to get it up this is the worst thing the worst it's just rude just guess what swallow the gum swallow the gum nobody's ever actually had a problem from it swallow the gum that's are you guys gum swallowers or not one swallow or spit i spit that shit out that's what i'll swallow it if i have to there's no garbage i'm gonna swallow it i'll do it and that includes when i would take the fruit by the the bubble tape and just you ever do that where you took the bubble tape you just took the whole thing you're like what oh you're like this is a good idea the bubbles oh yeah the whole you eat the whole

[36:01]bubble tape no i'm just kidding i never did that oh that's a terrible idea we just stepped all over russell's really going so so after i took my flight i go to nashville and i bounced around some of the uh the honky tonk bars and everything but you know what i got really into they have all these food stands in nashville and i started coming across a bunch of euro stands and i all the euro stands always have like a motto on them so i thought i'd share two mottos and see which euro stand you guys would buy from now i'm gonna tell you right now if one guy was also playing the weero i've got the perfect motto for him i don't want to run that for you guys the first one the first euro stand i walked by it said quality is our motto quality is our motto you know from that euro stand or not i'll tell you what that is like deep because when you're like what's their motto it's like quality is your motto and it's like oh so just quality and they're like no quality is the motto quality is the motto is the motto yes the

[37:02]motto is quality is the motto like you could tell they called the sign guy and they were like hey what do you want your sign to say oh we want our motto to be quality so quality is the motto yeah just put quality on that's the motto okay quality is the motto yep sounds good the other motto was now i'm not sure if it was the motto or just something else they put on there was made with love euros made with love if you guys had the choice of getting euros made with love or quality is our motto which one would you pay i would go in quality when you see that sign that is made with love and then you order your own it comes with like tzatziki sauce you're like yeah yeah i mean it's got to be quality quality quality is our is our motto and then it's because excuse me excuse me tzatziki sauce kind of looks like i'm gonna explain the joke i think didn't know the joke oh wait why you get green spots in there green pieces in there then i told you it's from the peloton oh sure

[38:03]mr raymond gave that to me so anyways i was going for a walk in nashville and then i started assuming every euro stand would have a motto and i actually went out of my way to look around at one euro stand and then it turned out they didn't have a motto and it kind of pissed me off yeah then you can't buy from now on yeah yeah i had my notepad out and everything i was walking around people probably thought i was playing what pokemon or whatever that game is with your phone but really i was taking notes about mottos for your stance what's your euro style wrestle are you hot sauce or no hot sauce and do you find a place to sit down and eat it or do you try to eat it while walking i don't eat euros from the euro stand i just comment on the mottos that are written on the stands fair uh yes sir can i help you uh no i was just writing down your motto well quality is our motto that's our motto quality is our motto or quality is the motto

[39:00]quality it's our motto it's our motto quality so another thing that i had an amazing experience in nashville the first time i've ever had uh something like this so i was there for work and a few of the people that i work with decided to do give a surprise to me and another guy that i work with because we put a bunch of work in on this project this thing we were doing for our industry and so they told us that the dinner the night after our conference was over they said we are taking you guys to this custom hat store to get you guys custom cowboy hats where they fit you you get to try it on you get to put whatever like accessories into the cowboy so you go in and you get on a wait list and then essentially you're you're connected with one of their people who makes the hats they bring you into like a private room oh wait a minute i've seen this online they give you drinks you start drinking and you start drinking and you start and so you go through like an hour-long process they can put brandings in the hat they've got feathers they got wraps they got what they can bend the brim however you want it it was an amazing

[40:02]experience like an hour-long custom cowboy hat fitting process so is that the hat that you're wearing currently this is the hat i'm wearing now what kind of question is that it's a straw hat to be fair aaron i just bought another cowboy hat on amazon like a week ago so as of two weeks ago i own no cowboy hats now i own two which would necessitate an entire rack yeah my hats so what was the inspiration behind your your hat let me describe russell's hat to everybody by the way russell we've got a white hat or cream with a top is that a red and black wrap a black and red kind of rope around the base russell that looks so good i gotta say i'm a little i would have said listen how big are your feathers like how big of a feather can we put on this hat i want the biggest fucking feather you can possibly put on this thing so so the one of the reasons i wouldn't have said to go with the kind of the white straw one

[41:00]is i don't i didn't think i needed like a heavy hat i wanted a lighter hat that you could potentially wear like fishing or you could wear it outside without getting too hot you know what i'm saying you look like if you put on if you put on like a tommy bahama shirt right now you look like you'd be betting top row at the horse track i yes that that is such a perfect description man i mean i just pictured that right now it kind of blew me away that's so good so then the other inspiration so i decided to go with the white straw when i want they had a darker straw one but they couldn't bend the the rim of the hat or the i don't know what you call the sides of the hat here they couldn't that wasn't going to bend up so i was just going to lay flat which i did not want i want to describe the bend russell's hat russell has chosen to bend his hat like a paul revere style hat there's three corners he's bent up the front he's bent up the two sides he's going full paul revere it's a tricor he's ring ring ring he's yelling to us and so uh so you pick out you pick out the style then they take you over and they they fit you they they just they plastic with like the exact so it fits on your head right

[42:01]where it's not going to blow off but it's not too tight so that's great and then you start picking like all these accompanying things and so i was looking and i saw the red and black rope and i was like oh that's texas tech that's my team for life oh yeah so i'm going to get the red and black colors to go along with my team for life right so good that's great and then so i was talking with the lady who's doing the hats for us and i'm showing her i used to have this old straw hat with like texas tech and it got ruined years ago so i'm like this is kind of what i'm going for and then she's like you know what we could do on the inside we could brand the word wreck them on the inside of your hat so if you check this out of the inside rim of my hat it says wreck them which was branded into the side of the hat oh my god and they would brand anything you want in there they had letters they had symbols they had all sorts of stuff rob you know what i would have branded in there quality is our motto quality or quality is our motto yep quality is our motto i thought you were gonna say you

[43:04]put like five nine zero zero nine in there so when you flip it over you look at it i'd be like put in there like uh biggest dick contest winner then leave the hat it's supposed to be like oh my gosh i can't believe i left this year so eventually my they completed the hat for me it was a great experience we walked out and over the night in nashville and then even at the airport today i've got numerous compliments on my cowboy hat and so what what do you guys think i do going forward because i can't just like put it in a closet and never wear it again do you think like friday's become my cowboy hat day and i just wear it out or what do you think wow russell do you have boots as well i don't i mean i have shoes that kind of look like boots matt okay okay wait what this feels like the kind of thing that you you keep put away until someone in your life

[44:02]starts sweating you about whether you shaved or not today and then you say you know what i can't be touched i'm gonna put this cowboy hat on and you watch what happens if i walk out of this house you watch that's what you use it for i'm gonna walk right by all those flight attendants i've got success with those flight attendants they will be into me i'm gonna pre just tell you i'm gonna edit that out just to save you because i can tell you sometimes some people think a joke is funny maybe once that you go too far they get really bad just do me this favor i think the dentist listening i think either sometime this week okay and i'll let you pick the day you have to wear that hat into work at least once right i mean everybody knows you got everybody was there they want to see that hat you got to give him but he's got he's got to come in with it he's got to then carefully place it like take it off and hang it up in a prominent space in his office and then get to work right i mean russell i could you get like a white

[45:02]suit to go with that and like a big like a big uh a bolo tie with some some uh topaz on there you got to perfect the jeff bridges move from from heller high water you guys seen heller high water he hangs on his boot like he puts his foot up on his knee and he hangs his hat on his toe with his boot that's that's a classy move i don't think i was quite as slick with it on the airplane today when i took it off and just put it in like the seat next to me and then the whole side got a bent up on it i think i need some money i need some work on hat handling but i did wear it on the flight and it was a great flight tonight wearing doing a flight with a cowboy hat is a baller move don't you think that's unstrung i mean if that guy walked past for his class it would blow my mind because i'd be like well this guy's obviously an oil bank date like why is he going past wow he must give a lot of money to the beck did a better charity that aaron has picked out so a true hero russell love the hat it looks great i believe it's a rustler hat i believe this store is called rustler in nashville if anyone ever goes to

[46:02]nashville and wants to get a custom cowboy hat it was a great experience i'll remember it forever right i'm gonna write that down real quick hustler in memphis check it out russell sent you yeah pee on stuff okay uh aaron rolling rolling going how's it going with you um it's going really well i got a couple things i wanted to mention uh one is i've got a movie recommendation i've been telling everyone about this movie actually rob really seriously if you haven't watched this yet i think you'll like it uh i don't know what the three r's stand for for sure but i think it's rise roar revolt yeah rise roar revolt this was on netflix it's uh it's from india and it's a movie that's been on netflix for a long time and it's a movie that's been on netflix it is not bollywood but it's got some bollywood kind of flavor to it it's like braveheart but if there were tigers and the bromance were stronger and then there's two awesome bollywood oh yeah i saw that yeah that's a good one oh i love it it's three hours long it took me forever

[47:01]yeah to get through it but i loved it so finished that this week and i was proud of myself the two main actors are great super good yeah rom and akhtar or his name is actually beam and i should i should remember the actor's names but yeah i loved that one i'm glad you've seen it you know that reminds me i had a guy that i went to every movie we went once a week to see movies this guy friend and i in rochester every week on wednesday it was actually guys night at the movie theater you got a discount if you're a guy what it was so great you know we just don't have any guys coming in the movies we gotta give him a discount it's like finally something for us guys men are making up only 48 percent of our customers we gotta get that up we saw movies that i had a chance to watch and i was like oh my god i'm gonna watch that movie and i'm never seen released like on video or on netflix or anything like there's a movie called like what was it was like 3-1-1 or something and then i watched a movie that was a bollywood movie about a wrestler who had one move where he flipped you over and broke his spine it was four hours long

[48:00]and there was an intermission in the middle of it it was wild when you don't realize that's the movie you're gonna see when you go into the theater it's crazy but i highly recommend have a period of your life where you just go see a movie every week and at some point you got to pick out you're like i'm gonna watch that movie and i'm gonna watch that movie every week and i'm like well we're down to the shit like what are we gonna go to it's super fun i like that idea oh that's great so yeah rrr enjoyed it on netflix uh it's uh i guess figs are in season now so i got my whole we got so many figs in the backyard the fig tree is blooming so if you need figs let me know um i'm looking for a fig sound clip i have figs yeah check that out no it's just it's that you could talk about that would make us comment less than fig season like how are we because i'm moving on to the next thing that was just i was just that's just i'm gonna blow your mind i'm gonna blow you well you understand the purpose of this right like we're trying to make content or whatever but here's the deal are you gonna take any of those

[49:02]and make a pudding out of it and bring us some figgy pudding well i think we're gonna make jam i don't i mean we're gonna make some jam but i guess we could try to make a fig bring us some figgy jam oh bring us some figgy jam last thing real quick there's a car that i've seen driving up down the street a few times and it has a vanity license plate gnss fan and i could not figure i've seen it a couple times around the neighborhood couldn't figure it out see if you can guess what what the gnss fan is gnss i think i know what it is is it is it uh genesis the band it is genesis every time there's also a genesis sticker on the back and props to this guy every time he drives down the street he's pumping genesis so loud you can hear it i am so stoked about his commitment to being a genesis fan i've not met the guy yet but i love it i love that he's blasting genesis every time he's driving down the street i think it's fantastic is it is it like the book

[50:03]from the bible that he's playing on audiobooks well that's interesting you mentioned that because he is going to and from the church but i think no he's usually listening to but he's listening to like deep cuts like stuff i don't even know say probably can't dance that's why oh my god right i was just gonna say man driving the car i was gonna say well don't go up to the car because he'll know if you gave it an invisible touch i saw when i was 12 i saw genesis played at the metrodome of all places oh that's how big they were and are you serious they were a huge band right i mean they had two hits yep you know i thought it was he was gonna be playing in the car rise from your grave oh he's playing altered beast on genesis this guy loves the genesis game system he like got the license plate like back in 1993 and he's like damn i gotta keep it and pay the fees but i mean now i kind of want to get more

[51:03]into genesis like i had the invisible touch album on cassette but i feel like i gotta go back and listen to their back catalog are they on the list they probably didn't make the list oh yeah like phil collins i don't know how about this aaron so you have a fig tree yeah we have a fig tree could you take a picture of yourself with a fig leaf in front of you when you're naked and we can put it on a shirt have you thought about that i mean hadn't thought about it until just now and then a license plate that says genesis fan and it's you and your wife with the fig leafs on like oh my god adam and eve aaron it's like my brain it's like i'm in the matrix everything is in slow motion i'm michael jordan it's in the zone today god i'm in the zone this is crazy i'm ignoring what russell's face would disagree he's looking like i'm not in the zone but i am i have russell everything's 12 hours and eight minutes until our our shirts go off sale it looks like which so that'll be that'll be about uh three weeks

[52:00]after this this podcast will be released about three weeks after our sale is ended so i'm gonna take a picture of aaron wearing a fig leaf and underneath there's gonna be a license plate that says genesis fan oh my god this is aaron we're gonna be so rich matt rolling going how's it going with you uh good good a couple things first of all happy 30th anniversary and 25th anniversary to pearl jam's album 10 and no code wow 10 no it's 30 years old and matt of course 30 years old you're hearing matt's the song off the album that matt picked and matt that song of course is what uh let's go with off the no code let's go smile off no code okay so you're hearing that right now 30 and 25 are those your top two pearl jam albums no no i've got yield is number one which came out right after no code well two years later but then no code is number two for sure okay it's a great

[53:04]it's also you know like when i was graduating high school and just getting in college so funny that's the pearl jam album right yeah you know things like that so matt what did you think of the vitalogy album that had like the softer cd cover remember i liked it yeah that wasn't like a hard plastic cover it was like a record cover almost right yeah it folded out a little bit yeah no i had i had that no i like vitology i like that better than even though it's good even though they had the bug song wasn't that the bug song on that one yes keeps bringing up the bug song yeah is that on i don't know so what what album are we talking about man no code oh how many times do you think you've bought that album in your life the pearl jam uh well i just bought it again about three weeks ago and then on vinyls and then i was up in north dakota again for a week with the family they continue to learn new swear words and oh nice lots of good stuff up there but um there's a a game called cornhole

[54:07]are you guys familiar bags cornhole yeah and these people up here are professionals they're absolute professionally play morning noon and night every friday there's a a random tournament up up at the the association building i sent you guys a video of it you know essentially this big metal shack that just hosts everything but they have a they have an open tournament every friday night but you come up and you sign up and then you get randomly paired with somebody else okay russell's like this could be a dating scene for me would this be a good let me ask you right now would this be a good dating scene for russell if he was to come and sign up for the bags tournament you know yeah i would say it was a good like 30 to 40 percent of the participants were female you know so it's i mean it's a it's a big event up there rich environments the who's who yeah the odds are good but the goods are odd and the whole time i'd just be laughing about the name cornhole the whole time and these women would

[55:02]be like yeah this is a guy i need to spend more time with they're looking at your shirt it says fan never heard of them they got both kind of music up there they got country and western but so i get i get paired right and i'm i'm okay like i don't play very often but i'm okay and so who do you guys think i got paired with i get paired with a guy who brought his own suitcase worth of bags so he's got six sets of bags and he brings he's got his jersey because he's part of something called the bach and bombers which is like a semi-pro bag so when you say paired you're playing against him or you're his teammate with him so it's teams oh so he's looking at you like don't drag me down oh so yeah it was like nerve-wracking playing with this guy because apparently he this guy throws now get it i could not believe this but looking at the guy and looking at how many bags he brought for a little thing what can i can i just stop you real quick man yeah what if he was absolutely terrible what if he started and he like

[56:03]tripped and fell and he was like i oh no he started crying he just bought himself a jersey and yeah god he throws so he said he throws a thousand bags a day a thousand bags and i said how long does that take he goes between two and a half and three hours i just love i just love and so this guy i mean like literally i don't know if it's 20 feet apart or whatever yeah all he's doing is taking a bean bag and throwing it a thousand times a day to try to and he wasn't that good that's oh no you know so he kept going and so that i was like ready i was ready to go to the championship right this guy's got the jerseys got everything but a thousand three i mean i can't think of a hobby i mean how many hours a week my record for most in a day was 12 yeah 12 bags no no no 12 12 times oh in seventh grade i mean if tlc is coming on if they have a tlc marathon

[57:03]forget about it all times it's easy amateur numbers so i don't know i think i need to get a little bit better bags game but there are some people out there it's fun to see oh go ahead does that really want make you want to get better like doesn't that kind of make you want to just like maybe well not trying to throwing a thousand but like these people you know they're getting together i mean it's what you do i think it's like anything you go like it seems like the most hick thing in the world right yeah but it's fun you're just sitting around drinking beer i mean kind of a thing like that but it's but it's but it's fun it's fun when it's low pressure right like it's fun when you're with somebody it's not fun when the guy freaking shows up in the uniform and the bags because he's expecting to do well and like yeah that would stress me out like crazy you did not you did not win the title we did not win the title but i don't think it was my fault oh my god that makes sense like i was hanging my own yeah yeah it makes sense yeah maybe he's like a guy who shows up for pickup basketball in the full basketball outfit those i mean you know those guys and the michael jordan jersey and

[58:03]shorts do the games ever get heated do people argue does it get does it get intense oh yeah yeah yeah basically the the mayor of of the town up there he's kind of one of the one of the mayors that goes around so he's playing and he's playing against another guy's daughter who's like 20 right and this so he's stepping over the line and he's keep stepping over the line you know whatever stepping over the line he keeps stepping over and she finally just started yelling at him you motherfucker stepping over the line that's cheating he's cheating and she just goes off and it was so yeah it gets heated oh you know that's that she's probably eight beers in kind of a thing but sure yeah that's exciting let me ask you man at any point did anybody make a bet were they you 'll sit with their legs under the beanbag cornhole thing with their balls directly below the hole and give everybody give a person one throw if they make it in the hole perfectly it's gonna blast them right in the balls did anybody do that no but it sounds like something

[59:00]that should happen right i imagine man that that guy like he's throwing the bags your partner and all of a sudden doors open to this huge shed by the way it's a giant shed he showed us a picture of it it's like a hanger it's gigantic yeah it's like the biggest bags room you've ever seen in walks the most attractive woman you've ever seen just super tall busty wearing a short shiny dress what and she's like come on i want to get out of here and this guy turns to you and goes what are you gonna do and he walks out gets into a lamborghini with a license plate that says genesis fan and just drives it turns out he's like the happiest guy in the world happiest guy just there's nothing to worry about but throwing bags all day that's nothing to worry about can you imagine throwing bags for two and a half hours is it possible he was lying to you for some reason like is this a weirdo who's a liar i mean it's possible right but the story was checking out everything he was talking about and how he was acting and he was you know that i this side if you need some slip you let this is the slide you want if you need

[60:01]to stick you flip it over and i'll see i mean he had like so maybe a little bit yeah so he he was legit he had it but i just thought holy cow a thousand bags a day the last hobby i really got into like that was i spent many hours a day for a couple days doing it was years ago when i put together a study of trying to prove that the nba lottery was rigged where i did a statistical analysis and essentially to prove that they were rigging it for the big six market teams and then the bottom four market teams how'd that go what what what did your uh results tell you proved it of course yeah and russell's russell's date was like oh yeah that's so interesting listen i gotta go to the bathroom i need to but you don't understand it's the bucks and the spurs they're in the smallest market i have to go see my i have to go see my old boyfriend he plays a lot of bags i'd rather be doing that right now genesis fan on her car listen we are talking about the album marky moon

[61:03]by television a joke that's so good it's happened two weeks in a row a first for this podcast never before but television was is a new york band it was formed in 1974 and really it was uh it kind of got famous playing at cbgb's in um in manhattan in the lower east side guitarist tom verlaine and richard lloyd took the punk sound that they were hearing at cbgb's and actually they were the drummer was more interested in jazz they wanted to make a little more hook driven a little more player friendly you know unlike the ramones at the time they wanted to make it sound like it had a little more musicality um and what's really interesting about this album is if you go look at the lyrics i think the lyrics are a lot more poetic we see a lot of i think patty smith influence who was a contemporary at the time they were briefly signed by island and did demos with brian eno but they refused to be signed eventually by any label that wouldn't tom verlaine wanted to

[62:02]produce his own album and finally in 1976 two years after they were formed electra said that he could do it if they got an engineer that he could work with and he got this guy named andy johns who had recently done goat face soup goat face soup with the rolling stones um they rehearsed for this for six hours a day for weeks and weeks and weeks the album was mostly recording live and basically and i know i say this all the time this album is on the list because it is a cornerstone of alternative music this is starting the post-punk era where you have a punk type attitude toward it with deeper lyrics more musicality kind of a change in music at the time and what's wild is that they were signed by now electra in 1976 by 1978 they had released one other album beside this and broken up and that's literally the history of television so let's get into marky moon by television an album i had never heard of before this nor heard no me either but i

[63:02]remember the first time through the list russell was excited about it i don't remember why this time we've heard a lot more music now so you might feel different so i mean here we're hearing some arpeggios on the guitar like the lyrics are very impressionistic just because i feel i i did not look up anything about television before this but i would have sworn they were an english band or something i did not think this was an american band i thought it sounded like david bowie at the beginning yeah really english like yeah it makes me think of elvis costello too i mean but i don't know who came first with all that stuff that is so interesting that you guys are saying boy to this that's kind of a that is what's kind of thing like if i said is this a punk band that came out of cbgb's you would say absolutely not right i don't hear punk at all but i don't know anything about punk i think the lyrics and the way he's saying him sound punky right like he wants to be a punk band or wants to not be but like yeah that's that's what i got out of the singing

[64:00]style i like that man that's so smart yeah the single stuff next up we have venus this is my favorite song yeah well i like this a lot it might be one of their like this much this sounds like yeah but this sounds like every is like this sounds like modest mouse and friends ferdinand and all those bands that i thought were like you know original and like oh this is where they came from i get it this album i think wins the award for the album my wife liked the least when i was playing it in the car driving over there she's like who the hell are you doing this week it's this is a it's a tough one to listen to i i don't know it's it's just so different it's the more you listen to it the more you get into it i think i tried to listen to it like if i could tune out the singing to listen because i was like there has to be some of the music here right and how they're playing and i don't know anything about playing an instrument right but like there had to be something goofy that they were doing or innovative or new and if i could the parts where i could tune out the

[65:00]singing because i did not like his singing at all or even like his rhythm yeah you know his the rhythm of his singing you know i i mean yeah it's pretty good music right but his his singing style threw me off big time on this album yeah i agree with you there i mean you know hence the punk part of it like you said earlier uh next up friction oh by the way i want to listen to the lyrics we just listened to for venus it was a tight toy night street so bright the room so thin between my bones and skin there stood another person who was a little surprised to be face to face with the world so alive i mean that reminded me of listening to patty smith right where she had obviously written it down as a poem to start with and then put it to music like that is i think i mean i think the lead singer is super into poetry right like his name is not is it verlaine or yeah your name is verlaine you got to be into poetry right but so his name was you know he took that name because he's at some prep school and so he was like tom smith or tom myers him and the original guitarist they skipped out and he was like i don't know i don't know

[66:00]their prep school and then he changed his name to tom verlaine because of the poet kind of a deal you know he's taking on a new identity so aaron let's i listen i understand who verlaine is okay but explain it to our dumb dumb listeners who don't know who verlaine is why would he pick that name well he was a french shit i don't remember which time it was he was he a romantic poet and did he get shot in the hand or something he had you know he was very uh very into like really amazing feelings and yeah he was in yeah rob was pulling it up now but yeah he and rambo who rambo who was patty smith's favorite uh had a long uh romance rambo too and he took out all that whole army like that was phenomenal now russell can i just make a quick note here and i'm going to edit this out but last time we every other time we've talked about french poetry you've asked to edit it out i think this time it's going to stay in i think that sounded really good i know you get sick every time we talk about french poetry on this podcast but this one was really

[67:00]i thought it worked yeah let's not edit this one out noted okay i mean i know we're talking about every week it's so boring but so here we have friction this song is interesting it's a kind of a punkish song but it's in minor key and listen to this guitar solo to begin with it's going down a scale you don't hear this very often it gives a very strange feeling to it right it's kind of spooky i i was thinking gothic country gothic country country song with some sort of i heard b-52s in this song and you know where the b-52s got their got got big or man they were one of the places they got their start were you gonna respond to that i was just waiting for are you gonna i thought you were asking yeah well yeah obviously i'm gonna tell you i mean if you said it it would be but they got it as a little club called cbgb and they're like oh my god they're like oh my god they're and i thought it might be interesting tonight if we go and look at the bands that started at cbgb

[68:04]this is another list going back to school very soon maybe in two days so i have to uh so i have to i gotta get my education on here i'm practicing teaching you guys so cbgb's was a club i mean you could spend a little more time on this it's not like you got our t-shirt shop up or anything this week too you can spend a little actually i did all this today i was sitting there i was like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm with my family i i'm like aaron i don't want to give up family time for this podcast that was like oh yeah we better start my kids will understand when this puts it through college guys buy those pillows come on do it cbgb stands for country bluegrass and blues i think i can't remember there's four it's too many um here's the deal one of the bands like of course so cbgb hey i got a question though are we gonna have a fantasy football league this year or what yes i listen i will deal with it at the airport i will set the date and deal with it just

[69:04]check it aaron doesn't care um i'm out this retired man the the this the course was it was originally like a country bluegrass club and that's how the owner intended it but they would start booking these acts and including punk acts and then eventually including hardcore acts like the misfits i don't have any misfits on here but this became one of the better known clubs and when i say better known you know talking to people at the time they're like at one point it was known by hundreds at the height it was known by thousands and i think in retrospect we we think that it was like like if you watch the cbgb movie it's like thousands of people trying to get in and they're like well no not really the number one band that you think of when you think of cbgb the club and of course the number one thing you think about with cbgb is what cocaine is the t-shirts right didn't that hot girl in your high school have a cbgb t-shirt and you're like what is cbgb but you couldn't say that out loud so you just pretend you're like yeah i have no idea what you guys are talking about i've never even heard of this until this list

[70:03]today are you serious i have no i had no idea russell it takes a brave man to admit that i appreciate it um the one of the biggest bands to come out of cbgb's of course is the ramones and i have picked all concerts from cbgb's their first gig was in 1974 this is about them can you imagine going to a club and seeing the ramones do i want to sniff some glue live this concert is from six months after their debut in the years following they played cbgb 74 times their average set length 17 minutes so you went to the ramones and you were 15 minutes late you only saw two minutes but i'm telling you i was gonna you know i was gonna say you're bringing up the time of their their set their sets when i was in nashville i realized i was doing some research on all these clubs in nashville so the music goes from 10 a.m till 2 a.m. daily at all these bars 10 a.m to 2 a.m and every bar and they each do four hour sets and usually

[71:05]they take some breaks i was at a blues bar this week weekend and the one band played four hours straight no breaks what yes they were awesome oh man that's working that is working that's how long i was throwing bags today like that's a long time i missed yesterday so i had to get my extra thousand um a band that opened for the ramones in on june 8th 1975 were the talking heads oh you mentioned you know i i think the talking heads were either an influence or influenced by television i think so oh well i mean television is the one of the big bands that come out of cbgb so these guys were all watching each other they were all seeing each other it's so funny though to think of talking heads with an acoustic guitar opening up for the ramones right it's like right this guy's doing this next band up is like i just want to snip some glue and you're like next up in 75 there was a woman who

[72:06]was in a couple bands in uh in cbgbs and eventually became known as blondie well she was the first album it's good where she is singing punk it wasn't until 1979 that she had a disco backbeat and hit a number one hit with uh heart of glass but here we have blondie in 75 this sounds nice playing at cbgbs russell's like i could have put a list together rocks it's cool yeah i like this a lot a band that actually played first in 1982 uh with two members the uh adam horvitz didn't join until later this is the beastie boys they were originally a punk band that would play cbgbs female drummer yep our mothers this is them singing egg raid on mojo wow russell if you went to this concert would you be happy

[73:06]no but when i go to concerts i just request troubadour over and over i heard it like four times and i was at one country the redneck riviera club on the strip and broadway and i reached a point where i had tipped them enough via venmo where they were starting to be like they were calling me out by name over and over me and like every time i was there i was like oh my god everyone was cheering me when i would make new requests it was pretty awesome russell what was the best song you requested down in nashville well why don't i walk you through my venmo please from last night or a couple nights ago well you know what you know i've already looked at him because you know i love doing that that's true oh actually no you know what i probably paid him well more than 120 oh this is a sober russell checking his venmo receipts a truly i did so the first venmo this is two years ago and i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm some guy named isaac hayes who was the lead singer of this guy please call himself isaac hayes guys

[74:02]buy some shirts russell's broke he's spending money sorry isaac harris buy some guys and pillows russell needs it and this was mostly a country band so i'm mostly picking country we got my first request for 40 alan jackson little big town miranda lambert or classic country oh no i'm gonna be playing clips under each one of these figure if you give them choices they can't say no they got to come up with something all right 40 dollars what time of day was that russell did you send that well it appears to be 1 32 in the a.m yes the next one was at 202 in the a.m no half hour later john denver or something else you crush crush by dave matthews yeah oh i think it was crush by m&m too by rem and the final one orange crush the final receipt was at 220 in the morning

[75:04]oh no it was for wagon wheel or any fun song russell can i just tell you right now you're a true american hero okay you are the you are the grease that moves america's wheels for sure rob i thought you were going to bring up the other night i was texting you guys my thoughts on music i thought you were just going to read my thing like remember when we had aaron do the diary of when he was stuck in the thing i didn't want to get you mad at me no here's the so i'll read i'll read this began at 10 57 this was a different okay first text was the median average song at a honky-tonk in nashville slash rock or country song is hard to handle by the black crows that was when i figured if it's better than hard to handle it's a great song if it's worse than hard to handle it's not a great song how often did you hear her to handle one tonight twice twice

[76:03]russell would you like to start a podcast called yes hard to handle did it better and we judge each song and whether or not it's better than hard to handle by the black rose that's a great idea god that's so good so then later 1102 in the pm i say they're playing the stones if we don't have a nashville trip set up by the next podcast i'm done i threatened to quit the pod funny nobody planned anything yeah at this point there's no way i thought i would be harassed over text about this said nashville 1106 so shortly thereafter i'm frustrated that i'm not getting responses to my text now they're playing tnt by acbc the more time that goes by the more i wonder if rob even wants a podcast when is our trip no response meanwhile i'm setting up an e-commerce site trying to make some money 1107 this is a minute later where i'm continuing to be frustrated and just texting

[77:02]kiss for 20 with four exclamation points matt would make us walk out of this place i missed that one 1109 people love kiss people love kiss matt which what what kiss did they players oh i have no idea okay i have respect for you again if you don't know what song they're playing russell you and i can well russell bought seats in the honky tonk bar you don't realize this but russell got tickets actually for the upper deck in the back so he couldn't hear any songs he was been moaning crazy couldn't hear anything 1114 shortly thereafter sweet emotion this text chain is my new notepad at this point i'm just sending you guys my notes finally aaron acknowledges me my text is finally gets a response from you guys there it says crushing it russell yeah so good then we got out there man a little bit later ccr really loud this is a wild and then and then the final text of the night was collective soul rob sleeps while

[78:07]his podcast fades away because i was convinced the podcast was over because he was not setting up a trip for national for us this i well i think i texted back at some point didn't i and i said you're in national why don't you plan the trip and i think i found things for us to do right i found like a top five list of us things for us to do i was too busy i didn't have time to respond to your guys this my whole life is a waste of time russell excellent and you kind of are stepping on my list okay not a big deal but i didn't want to point that out rude beastie boys so finally the number one person to come out of cbgb's absolutely patty smith her first gig was in she played the last show when it closed in 2006 at this punk club she was in the crowd for the first television show ever here's patty smith dancing barefoot oh i see how you brought it

[79:02]back around there rob nice i'm sure you're gonna spring this up but patty and the tom berlain dated for a while and a lot of people uh don't know this but patty smith and tom berlain actually dated for a while there's a couple youtube videos where you can find them singing together it's kind of fun but maybe hard to find out where patty's singing exactly so it's not as easy to use russell this song above or below hard to handle what do you think i don't know i think this is below hard to handle hard to handle did it better that would get exhausted i did also have a moment where i was getting my custom cowboy hat made and the whole time i just wanted to get expected and better branded like in the side of it but i was like i can't have my all this than possible so i had to ignore it good call how about a shirt how about a shirt that says like the big alligator greater than sign and then hard to handle is there guys i'm gonna make so much that was a great list rob definitely probably a top five that

[80:04]was awesome in the last four weeks that's definitely been a top five list uh marky moon this got all the way up to number 30 in the uk rolling stone says the 381st greatest song of all time so are these guys big did they have a ton of fans when this album came out or is this just kind of history gives it credit but they weren't that popular critically acclaimed is what this said over and over yeah but not necessarily a big seller do you like the music heads like this is a cool song yeah i mean this you know me i'm a produced production nut i love how this sounds oh no it's definitely well produced i hate it i i read the wikipedia article about these guys too and i i fucking hated how any any band that's like a little bit intellectual or thoughtful gets labeled with oh they're

[81:01]they're sort of jazz like i hear no i hear no jazz in here except occasionally some of the drumming i kind of get it but i just i don't know why they always label it that way that way and it's just i don't hear it so here we have a solo that's in the mixalodian mode mixalodian mode now we talked of course about the mixalodian mode when we talked about miles davis coming up with different modes for his so okay so maybe i'm wrong i'm listening oh is that exactly the opposite yeah the article i read he said he was heavily influenced by the miles davis electric when he when he turned electric oh that makes sense okay yeah that makes sense i think this is the point my wife is like what band are you doing who is this yeah no just i i left the room and i came back and and and it was like yeah they were doing like a doors style like a jam session i was like wait what guys we got to get her on the podcast that's such a smart thing to say the wrong person on the podcast elevation what's this song about it's about elevation how it's going to his head it probably is like when

[82:10]i went up to pike's peak and you go up to like 14 000 feet and you go into the store right now pike's peak there's a store and all it has up there is there's people working there and all of them are dressed in orange because they're all emergency response people because you're up so high that you feel light-headed when you're up there and a lot of people get altitude sickness and then they sell stuff like fudge and the magnets and all that stuff and i was up there and i could barely catch my breath i was like and i went up to one of the people working there and i was like i need some fudge i got some fudge it was so good i heard this like this last few songs i started to like this album a little more but it got way more guitar heavy in my estimation so i don't know if you guys heard

[83:00]that at all listen to it seems like there's a little more guitar here towards the end i would say guitar forward is an accurate description of this album i mean there's a lot of it's a it's a ton and what's interesting is there's not one rhythm one lead they're kind of playing together guiding light i hear the bowie influence here for sure for sure dylan oh yeah next up we have the second single prove it single charter for four weeks in the uk i mean these guys are big in europe actually i do love the sort of like american soul kind of rhythm and stuff like that stand by me or something this one was about um i like that by the way you you can definitely hear that i this one was uh they think it's about plato's shadows on the cave were you guys as obsessed as i was with shadow puppets growing up what like being able to do shadow puppets like i

[84:05]watched that sesame street thing where they would do the where they would do the elephant i was like god damn i gotta get good at shadow puppets and i'll tell you what i work two hours a day but i mean were you guys did you guys want to be good at shadow puppets i mean i had a book for real oh yeah i can show you the the rooster ah put your pants on the dog let's see i thought wasn't this from that movie the waiting the goat or whatever it was here's the dog watch this watch my duck to the dog my dog's different than yours mine looks like this oh wow i like that dog sweet so we're doing shadow puppets on zoom so for those of you that are still listening sorry this is the only podcast you listen to dummies aaron what's your best shadow puppet my best shadow puppet yeah like the butterfly because it also kind of looks like

[85:03]the wu-tang so i like that one that's a good one cash rules everything around me for sure with that i'm gonna show you the rooster again by the way my fingers are so short you can see what i'm doing shadow puppets maybe that's a problem with my shadow puppet career my fingers were too short uh let's see torn curtain up where where you couldn't have been an organ player right all right i saw that organ player the other couple weeks ago and we talked about how he makes appearances every once in a while So this is about Torn Curtain, how you see the play within the play, what's going on backstage. Kind of like how maybe if your podcast co-hosts are actually making fun of you in a hurtful way, you can't say anything because it's being recorded. This is like, this is one of those songs where I agree with Matt here. Like, I don't love listening to this guy's voice. And it's like a lot of the songs by the band where I'm like, I think this is a good song, but I want to hear a good singer sing it to know for sure.

[86:09]And that was it. So let's get into our final discussion. It's a very patented and popular rating system. You guys hear how young I sound there? Happy, excited. So long ago. So long ago. Listen, this album, 107. And again, right above James Bond on the list. And that's it. That was the best joke in the podcast. We didn't top it in the last hour and 38 minutes. Is this, okay, the perfect album to put at 107? Listen, this is, we look back at this when we talk about post-punk, when we talk about alternative music, like picture this album comes out in 77.

[87:00]It is huge. Like this is a total deviation of music. Starts in a small club, influences everybody, even if maybe you've never heard of it. It's huge. I thought it wasn't huge. Well, it's huge now because it's on the list at 107. Gotcha. Okay. So it's obviously better than a lot of artists that aren't listed. Now, listen, if that's wrong, okay, if they should be behind some of those other artists, okay, that would be a rolling groan. It should not be up this high. Or is this a rolling bone? It should have been up higher on the list. Okay. Raise that marquee up. Okay. This would be a song. If it was higher up on the list, even if it doesn't eat meat. It sure got rolling boned. It should be higher up on the list. I missed my timing on that. That's not bad. Is that Dead Eye Dick? Is that the name of that band? Oh, I think it might be. I think you might be right. I'm going to see. That actually, the Dumb and Dumber soundtrack was great. Remember the song Peter Pumpkinhead? Oh, my God.

[88:00]Hooray for Peter Pumpkinhead. I'm going to check out. Guys, unfortunately, I'm just going to tell you right now. It also was The Bear Went Over the Mountain. Remember, it was like a metal song. The bear went over the mountain to see what he could see. It's when the guy's freaking out because he ate the hot sauce or whatever. They put the peppers in his food. Check it out. I think that also had. Eat that burger and we'll tell you. I mean, that also had the hit song. Do you guys remember on the Dumb and Dumber soundtrack? There's a part with like Russell saying with the hot sauce. The hot sauce on his feet. Oh, no. Why do you want this to be the hot sauce? Why did you choose tonight to be the hot sauce on feet episode? Do you know how much self-control it takes for me to not to make this a sound clip that I can just play whenever I want? Oh, the hottest sauce. The bigger question is, how did you ever come across this, Rob? Where did you find this? I don't know. It was just on my dad's computer. I don't know. I'm going to tell you right now.

[89:03]I looked up Did I Dick to her. They broke up in 2014. Oh, so sad. I wonder if they played Mary Moon on that. You never know. So what do you think? Rolling well-toned, rolling bone, or rolling groan? And Aaron, you always try to get me distracted during this time. Don't do it. Okay? Don't do it. What do you think? I think that this album inspired a lot of bands that I went to see in the early 2000s. And I never knew the band. I don't listen to this kind of music much anymore. So it kind of misses me a little bit. But I think. That it's really nice musically. You're right, Rob. It's really well produced. I think the guitar is great. I think there's a lot I would probably listen to again. I think it's a fun album to listen to. But I think because I'm just not really down for lens singing, I'm going to give it a rolling groan. All right. Russell, what do you think?

[90:00]Rolling well-toned, rolling groan, or rolling bone? You know, you singing that in that cowboy hat is just, it's awesome. You might have to wear this cowboy hat every time we record. It might just be how late it is. I just Venmo'd him 40 bucks. That's what I mean. 2 a.m. Give it 15 minutes, he'll be sending a hundo. Rob, you should send, I should give you that guy's Venmo and you can send him a tip right now. Yeah. With the Beck did it better request song. Play a song you're good at. Play a song you're good at. Play a song you're good at. Hot sauce on feet, 20 bucks. You should have written, play a song you're not good at. See what he does then. This was a fun album. I remember, I remember Aaron, the first time before we ever started the quest, I did say, hey, this is great music. I like listening to it. I enjoyed it. But for me, it's probably not something I'm going to go back to listen to it over and over. The only time I listened to the album on this, preparing for the podcast was on the plane. And I pretty much spent the whole time being disappointed that the brim of my one side of

[91:04]the hat had gotten bent too far. So I wasn't even that into it. So I don't think. I'm going to go back and listen to it. I'll say it's a slight rolling groan. It should be lower on the list. So, Matt, listen. Shit. I had a show rolling groan. Matt, what do you think? Rolling well-toned, rolling boned or rolling groan rough? I think it's rolling groan. I, you know, a lot of these ones that are probably getting a little higher in the list, but, you know, you think of like the Sex Pistols and. And who's that other guy from the with the Nico early on? What was his Velvet Underground, Velvet Underground, you know, Velvet Underground, Patti Smith, some of these other ones, I think you can hear a direct line to future music. I don't know if I can personally hear the direct line to the Nirvana's and Pearl Jam's and Sound Gardens and Replacements and all those other kind of alternative bands that

[92:02]came out of the mid 80s through the 90s. And so I don't know. I just can't. I can't connect the dots. I can't stand the singing. So I'm going to say it's rolling groan way lower on the list. Russell, I'm going to edit this in earlier, but at any point, did you yell whipping post when you were in Nashville? Oh, absolutely. Didn't I text you guys that I yelled whipping post? Oh, I didn't know you actually were truthful about that. You really did. Did anybody play it? I was at a blue, a great bar in Nashville and people should check it out if they go. It's called like the Boogie Blues Bar or something like that, but they play a lot of blues and stuff. And. In an hour, I heard Statesboro Blues and whipping post. Oh, my God. Yes. And when they and that right when whipping post started, when I realized what it was, I did definitely yell play whipping post. Yes. Whipping post. Did they look at you like, yes, we know that reference. We also are fans of the podcast that just came out. They're like, I can't believe you've had mode this guy 40 bucks for or who'd even the blowfish

[93:02]or whatever I requested. They're like, oh, we're going to go sit down on these pillows we have. Oh, my God. They're back to the better. I can't believe that. That's incredible. Listen, unfortunately, three rolling groans. It doesn't happen very often. But what can you do? Unfortunately, you're incorrect. OK, damn it. This is a rolling history. Less own. Less own. Yeah. Now you might think like, oh, is this the first funk song ever? No, that was different. Those are different. This what we're listening to here. I mean, it really is like if you compare this to other albums that were coming out in 1977, this was a total derivation, a total deviation than what we were used to. It wasn't big at the time, but you listened. The bands now and they talk about how much they love television. We've got R.E.M. We've got all these other alternative ones. I definitely read on the Wikipedia that I remember. And they all point to television as changing their lives with the sound. And for example, Tom Frechette from the Red Hot Chili Peppers said this changed the way he played guitar, where you could just play with emotion. That's why it's. I know. You got to stop.

[94:00]Correct me. It's not even close to his name. I just watch him on the VMAs, but I do. OK, Tom. Isn't it John Frechette? Wait, no, no, it's Tom Raymond Usher. That's what it is. I remember now. Guys, this is a music podcast for sure. Next up. Next up. We have an album by Fiona Apple. Oh, shit. And I'm not kidding. The title of this album is. When the pawn hits the conflict, he thinks like a king when he knows throws the pawn. The blows when he goes to the fight and he'll win the whole time or he enters the ring. There's no body to better to batter when your mind is your might. When you go solo, you hold your own hand and remember that death is the greatest of heights. And if you know where to stand, then you know where to land. And if you fall, it won't matter. That's really because you'll know that you're right by Fiona Apple.

[95:01]So I don't think this album is going to be. I don't think this is going to be too artsy. That's what we should have. Oh, my God. That's like Dikembe Mutombo's real name. That's like Dikembe Mutombo's real name. It's got a pretty long real name. Anybody want to sex Mutombo? Who wants to sex Mutombo? Who wants to sex Mutombo? I told you it's a very long name. Rob, I saw it. I went back to it. T-Public. Spunk McCullins is on there. He's got baby onesies out there that say hot sauce on feet is our motto. The perfect pitch. Close out, man.