Joni Mitchell: Hejira (1976)

[0:00]Okay Jay I'm not you don't have to Okay Oh She upset that we were touching on her Some of her kinks no no Everything's fine Wait did I say something Rob's right I don't like doing this out loud Rob's right Rob's right It's very It's menacing Can she hear us Jenny blink if you can hear me Jenny blink twice Jenny take your shirt off if you can hear us Aaron that is inappropriate I was trying to get a rise out of Rob On four Are you ready Rob One two three Four Alright here we go Let's do this to this And everybody's fine Alright here we go In 2020 four friends decided to listen to every one Of the greatest 500 albums As decided by Rolling Stone magazine

[1:00]This resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music Excoriated the order and led us to making this podcast That's a lay That's nice I gotta get my internet looked at I just gotta look at my internet that's the problem Get under the hood and see what's going on Maybe if you got a real gong In that small living room of yours Rob You wouldn't forget if it was just like sitting in the living room Did I tell you guys I went down to my sister's place This is her all time early break She was having slow internet the whole time And there's nothing you know There's nothing more humiliating Than when you're hosting somebody And they're like oh your internet's slow And you're like oh I'm a piece of shit I should be alive You know what I mean like So her internet's so slow And we're like what's going on What's going on What's going on We leave And she goes oh guys It turns out I had moved my gong In front of the router And everybody was like What your gong was in front of the router And she's like yeah I just moved the gong In front of the router So there was no wi-fi signal in the house For when we were there This feels more egregious

[2:00]Than me not mentioning my sister enough You have never mentioned That your sister has a gong Your sister has a gong She's the first we're finding out about She got a gong for the baby's bedroom She was showing us the baby's bedroom Like over zoom during the pandemic Okay or the panty as I like to call it Okay those sweet panties Get in those panties You guys know what I'm talking about So here's the thing Is that she would And now I'm going to transition back to my sister Here's the thing Is that she would show us over zoom The baby room right Yeah And so she says And she goes well you know Here's a little changing table And here's a closet And here's a Oh we got a you know A nice little tent or whatever I almost said teepee Aaron But I didn't say it So good job for me Here's a nice little tent That's triangular in nature And then And then oh here's the gong And then here's the crib And we're like wait No no go back Why did you get a gong for the baby's room And why is this the first we've heard of it I don't know Well you can't hit it It's in the damn baby's room Wait I mean there's no worse place For a gong It's like It's like she's trying to make a comedy movie

[3:00]Of like me creeping in Sneaking Slipping in the gong with my head Everybody waking up Oh that's Yeah that's a real Adam Sandler We're like four minutes in And the funniest thing I can I can see Jenny over Rob's microphone right Yeah She has not looked up once from the book She's reading At all the stuff you've said in the last four minutes How much stuff do you Don't Don't call it out Rob How many things How many bad things do you have to say before She actually like looks up and says What the fuck are you guys talking about There's a zero percent chance She's listening to anything I'm saying right now Okay Do not worry about it It's impressive focus And things are fine Things are fine We are far from experts Who promise to do almost no research All opinions are on a list You disagree Please sit back and enjoy Beck did it better We're all the way up to album 133 And from 1976 It's Hajira by Joni Mitchell Now I'm bummed Hey Hey things are fine Do you mean like wine them Dine them upside down Boys on top Dine them 69 Yeah that's why

[4:00]Everything coming at you Yeah well you know It's It's Hey listen It's a tradition Okay It's like Hank Williams said It's family tradition He's like that's why I never sit in the back of a car Oh my heart I thought the album was named It's a bummer I thought this album was named Gojira Gojira And I thought we might get to see the scene Where Godzilla finally meets And falls in love with Truckasaurus Okay Listen it was really hard To come up with something for Hajira I'm not gonna lie That was an all time One of Rob's family members Just finally it happened It wasn't all of them But one of them I guess it's good You didn't make any jokes About making a pilgrimage Or something along those lines then No It's actually not the common Arabic spelling of it So I don't acknowledge it All right Let's listen to K Rob K R O B Now this will be impressive What's up everybody Welcome to K Oh I just have to say this Before we start Listen This parody song is a new low Not only is this song Not on the album It's not even on the album It's not even her version Of the song Because I like the other version better

[5:00]So guess what everyone Rob doesn't give a shit About the parody song anymore It's done okay I guess Joni Mitchell Had a problem with Spotify And also had a problem With the cheap knockoff With K R O B Karaoke versions of her songs too What's up everybody Welcome to K Rob K R O B Today I'm gonna answer A question that no one Has ever asked Rob Why you write these parody songs Oh yeah Oh yeah Oh yeah Time to prepare For another show I need a parody song About the episode What should I write about Well I don't know Needs to be done today Yup gotta do it I could rock about Russ And all his dates I could sing about Aaron His peculiar ways And I haven't done a mad song In about 500 days But they all say They seem cliche

[6:00]Why do I write These parody songs They're not very good And they take way too long And now I've resorted To a song about the song It's almost like I do it Cause I crave Attention Feels like an 80s Sitcom theme song That's even worse I'm singing a needless Second verse Yes Nobody wants it And here's what's perverse It's my favorite part Of the show Maybe I want to be funny That's why I write These parodies It's the only part of the show Where it's just me This is my big solo Oh my god Why do I write These parody songs

[7:00]Lately they've been Pretty long I think they're cool And funny Well that reminds me Of someone It's me It's me It's me But you're just too lazy To look it up online It's me If you want to hear Four guys who chat And then they get off Getting that falsetto At the end there That's beautiful Whose version of the song Is that is it Cher? Judy Collins Judy Collins I don't know It's a much more upbeat Much more Cause I was trying to do it To her karaoke And it was so hard Because it was slow And you know She has that weird It's always hard Joni Mitchell is one of the Hardest to do parody songs for It's almost impossible Cause her voice is so Wild We've talked about that Where she could take a run And just crush it Yeah Her phrasing is crazy Yeah We're not just talking About Joni Mitchell We're talking about the list

[8:00]We are all the way up To 133 Closer and closer To ending the Sisyphean ordeal And I've got three guys here Who want to talk about Joni Mitchell And want to talk about This album And don't care What time we go to bed It's not a big deal Okay Who cares Nobody cares anymore I've got Matt in Minneapolis Matt how are you doing? Good Rob You asked me to be patient With doing this podcast Tonight Well I failed Let me just tell you Oh no I've got Russell Russell of Minnesota Russell how are you doing? Guys the other day I was privately probing Public rooms And peeking through Keyholes and numbered doors And let's just say It didn't help My Valentine's Day Very much So now I'm taking temporary lovers And all the pills And powders I need to get me Through this passion play Wow Wow Put that on a card And sell it This is going to be A great cocktail segment When that comes up This Joni Mitchell She can really write a song Okay You can quote me on Hey Joni You want to put that On the back of one of your albums Feel free Okay And I've got Aaron Out in California

[9:00]Aaron did you hear Now Aaron did you hear Now we all know That California Started as gold country Right But did you hear About the new thing There's a gender binary It may have started Before that And there may have been Some indigenous people Who would Oh my god You're doing the Indigenous people thing to me Don't even think about that That's so rude Yes Why do they call Los Angeles Why do they call San Diego Why is it San Francisco Okay Fine Okay I'm a piece of trash Okay Okay San Diego Wales vagina San Diego Wales vagina I'm listening Please Did you hear about The non-binary gold prospector No I didn't hear that There's gold In them there hills Them there hills Oh I like That's a good one I like that Everybody you think When you It's one of those fun jokes Where when you tell it Everybody goes Oh Jesus Christ I can't believe I'm talking to this guy At this party And then when I say There's It's not so much a laugh It's just a release of tension So I hope you guys enjoyed that one That's great Listen Let's get right into the

[10:00]I didn't introduce myself The people aren't going to know Who I am when I talk I've got Aaron I'm sorry Aaron what's up I'm just here to get high On travel and drunken alcohol Let's talk about Joni Mitchell Nice All right Let's Get away with words Let's Go to our voicemail Rob I thought We weren't supposed to talk About releasing tension While we were on camera On the back line 802-277-BEC Nice That's 802-277-BEC Jenny still hasn't looked up Jenny Jenny still has not looked up Just so we can tell you It's not going to happen Jeff here's a Jenny update Is she alive Do we have a weekend At Bernie's situation Going on back there Hey Things are fine Okay things are fine Here's the deal This is not a Oh what was that movie You think this is a Do you think this is a Weekend at Bernie's situation That's going on behind me That she's just sitting there And I'm going to have to like Move her mouth Didn't I just say Weekend at Bernie's Weekend at Bernie's Alright did you really Yes Okay well I might have a problem here

[11:00]We might be in big trouble Let's get into the voice Yeah Oh boy The cone The cone Oh my god There's 30 seconds left Long time listener First time caller You know This is so fun Oh look what I have with me It's Hi It's Shelly Hi It's Shelly I've been busy Keeping track And folding around Clothes It's like A max Mother I just folded clothes I followed her To New York In Madison Locker room In Manitou Oh I couldn't Get the dog To follow them along What is happening It's Shelly So It's Shelly Thank you Cone and Shelly Now that of course Just picture a

[12:00]Grown ass man Of course Whoever it is Of course Just picture a grown ass man Who's like 42 years old Staying in his house That's all I could do The whole time Was picture him He's got kids And he's sitting there Doing this somewhere In his house That's hilarious So that was a caller Who used to call When I had a college radio show And he would be Various characters Including as I remember The library slasher Would often call up And just say that They were the library slasher I don't I don't want to derail the show But I don't You guys This is a hole In my St. Olaf College You didn't listen To my college radio show You son of a bitch No I listen Of course I listen To your radio show My The whole of my understanding Of St. Olaf College lore Is I don't know What the cone is I know nothing About the cone This comes up On our text chain All the time I know nothing About it So the cone Was an orange traffic cone That people brought To the sporting events And then would yell Through it Right Yeah So Barry from Burnsville And Pete from Ann Arbor And so these guys Would get Half in the bag

[13:00]What And then they would Just start yelling At everybody And particularly There was one guy From Concordia Moorhead Who they would yell Squeak to Because he was a really Short tiny guy Playing second base And they would yell Through that cone Squeak Squeak And they would just Yell at this guy And it was the funniest Thing in the world For division three Baseball They have fans Yelling through a cone And it's usually Just the two of them Over on the side Of the Down the first baseline Yelling And then all of a sudden They were doing Like the scoreboard Sometimes So that's the cone Okay Didn't they yell At a larger guy From St. Thomas Weren't they calling him Grimace The big guy From the McDonald's Characters The McDonald's Buffets Grimace I can't remember Half of this I could just picture Pete from the world The smile on his face When he had a couple Soda pops And was yelling Through that cone And it was Hilarious I just want you To picture now Waking up And starting to drink At like 10

[14:00]And then knowing You're going to go Sit outside At a baseball game All day First of all It would be The greatest day I've had in like years First of all Second of all There is no way I would survive that I would simply Just fall asleep I think forever I think I would just Fall asleep forever Rip Van Winkle it up I go to Oakland A's games So I can For $32 I can sit just as close Like the last Oakland A's game I went to A guy yelled To Alex Bregman Because Bregman Didn't get to a foul ball Like this guy This guy's at MVP Level third baseman He was like Bregman you're too slow And like Bregman Looked at him and laughed Like there's only 12 of us Sitting down At the baseline So good There's definitely A tipping point in life Where you realize You can no longer Do like the all day Drinking thing I don't know I'm sure everyone's had it You guys maybe had it Years ago I don't know When it happened for me But I definitely know I went to a gopher game This year And some people Were tailgating And I got there And they're all having Beers and everything I'm like I can't I can't start drinking Beer now I'll never get through The day And it was the first Time where it dawned On me like Oh I'm not even Attempting To participate In tailgating

[15:00]Activities in the morning My life at North Dakota Has taught me that There's only one way To survive all this And that's light beer I mean like You can drink a lot Of light beer I thought you were Going to say like Don't drink till 4 I thought you were Going to say like Don't drink till 4 Yoga lots of water I mean you know There's the whole thing You can't drink all day If you don't start In the morning You know and usually It's the morning Before Wow You know things like That so you know So that's the For me that's the Only way Russell If I have one Captain Coke If I have one Hazy IPA If I have one thing Other than some like 4-2 Coors Light beer I am screwed So that's about The only way So I've learned The hard way Most parents learn The hard way When they've got Like an 18 month old It depends on And then they just Have to you know Like wake up Have to babysit The kid all day And you know It's just absolute Pure hell You don't do That the next time Kids and hangovers No good No bueno Guys and that's An official Beck did a better Stance

[16:00]California Before the prospectors Kids and hangovers They are bad together We give that The Beck did a better Seal of approval Let's get into Rolling going You think there's Any podcasts That are pro Having little kids Being hung over It's time for Rolling They are Those are the same People that are Still yelling at Like college kids When they go to games Yeah Be the same Venn diagram Crosses over Rosie roll it Go on How's it going With you It's going great I got some music Thoughts I've got some St. Olaf college Thoughts I have some food Thoughts I'm going to give You a few things Tonight Number one I went back And listened to Supreme Clientele Today It's still great And I honestly I feel like Ghostface I feel like Ghostface Killa And Joni Mitchell I feel like Spiritually They come from A similar place So Ghostface fans Out there Check out Supreme Clientele It's from 2000 It's still good It's still good Another On the music tip I don't know How long it's going To be before We get to Linda Ronstadt But it's honestly

[17:00]Not soon enough We watched I think this Kind of set The internet Aflame We watched Season Or episode Three of The Last of Us The new zombie Show on HBO I might kind Of be out On the show Itself But episode Three is Honestly One of the Most beautiful 80 minutes Of television Possible Linda Ronstadt Figures prominently It's so gorgeous And it And finally At the end Of the episode You get to hear Her voice And it's An absolute Just killer Moment It's so Wonderful So I Highly Highly recommend There's a Linda Ronstadt Documentary I think on Netflix Which is Excellent If you want To hear Just how Like Important Linda Ronstadt Was and what A huge star She is Like it's The one To go to She wasn't Part of She was always Just Linda Ronstadt Wasn't she She wasn't Part of Anything She was In a band Or anything Trio with Emmylou Harris And somebody Else right But that was More like a Yeah but That's later And I Could swear There's only One album And it's At 490

[18:00]490 Oh that's So many years And I swear The old list Had like Four albums And one of Them was Like a Top 100 Album But We've Discussed Her once Before I believe I bought A Linda Ronstadt Album at The record Store on One of my Trips Yeah that's Right Man she Just rules Like I was just Blown away When you Finally get To hear Her voice In this Episode She went To South Africa Against The Apartheid Band Too So just In case Anybody's Getting too High on The horse There She did That as Well So you Know me I like to Swoop in At the end And really Make a Good time Next topic Is I Pounded Some chicken Today I've never Pounded Chicken And this Was a Really I was Really Excited Yeah I felt Really good About having Pounded The chicken And then It cooks A lot Faster But here Is the Most important Thing I need To talk To you Aaron You pounding That chicken This is My sneaky Beat Of the week Okay Makes me Think Aaron Does Sings That song During Really Dirty Things Which Is Kind Of Bothering Me Right

[19:00]Now Like If I Ever Went To Oakland And stayed At Aaron's House And I Heard That Song Coming From The Other Room I'd Be Like Nope I Gotta Go All I Had For That Joke Is I Got Blue Ball And I Crushed It I Actually Believe It I'm Green I Will Die What Was It Aaron If I Were Green I Would Die If I Was Green I Would Die If I Was Green I Would Die But I'm Reminded By our Caller About Our Deep Roots And Connection To St. Olaf College And There Is A Gentleman In My Well He used To Work In My Office Now We Work Virtually Who Is Also A Graduate Of St. Olaf College Maybe 20 Years After Us He's Much Younger Than We Are And Somehow About Five Years Ago I Found Out That He And I Are Co Alumni We're Both Alumni Of St. Olaf College And

[20:00]Anytime That I'm On a Phone call With this Guy I Make Sure To Mention He's Here To Do Our Statistical Analysis And Of Course I Have To Mention That He And I He's My Co Alumnus Of St. Olaf We've Spoken To it In Person Just Him And Me But If I Say It On a Call In Front Of People He Will Not Respond In Any Way He Doesn't Sell It He Doesn't Sell It So Like What How Am I Going To Get Him To Sing Umi Aya With Me On A Work Phone Call Three Black Jacks In A row Three Black Jacks In A row I Think If you Start Singing He'll Have To Join In Right Like Hang Out There Is It Is It One Of Those Things Though Where He's Like Deathly Afraid Of Sticking His Just Even Like His The Tip Of His Nose Out And Being Like You know Having Somebody Above Him Think That They're Yeah He's Very Funny Guy Or Something Like That Very Straight Laced Yeah I Think Very Demure Like It Really Would Not Be It Would Be Out Of Character For Him To Sing On a Phone Call For Sure

[21:00]Yeah Typical St. Olaf Student These Things Yes Aaron You know How to Lead From The Middle You Show Him How It's Done Yeah I've Taken Some Leadership Classes I Could Do It That's What I'm Thinking Is that He Aaron's Like Hey We're Like From The Same School Like Man We're Like The Same Celery And he's Excited About the Celery Part of It When I Was there There was Let's just Call him A coach We don't Want to Call him Out But there Was a Coach Who Graduated In 1989 From St. Olaf College And we Were there I was there From fall Of 99 Through 2003 You guys Were a year Ahead of me And so I can Remember Thinking That the Fall You know Graduating 1989 At that Time Was like So long Ago You know Just think About that So that's Only like A 13 14 Year gap And now you Got a 20 Year gap So that would Be like You talking To a guy Graduating In like

[22:00]82 Right And he's Like Hey Hey Aaron You know I just Get nothing From the Guy I've Tried Multiple Different Ways I say It to Other People Like Oh you know I like Jay Because he And I Are both No I Don't get Anything I get Nothing Clearly He's never Going to Lead from The middle Either that Or he's Going to Be leading From the Top He's Going to Skip The middle Of college Was the Twins Winning their First world Series What about You We're the Same age My worst Memory was The challenger Explosion I can see You guys I can see You being That guy Like hey We're the Same You know Like you And I Hey we're Talking on The phone We're like We're both Oldies And he's And then You're like Hey what's That noise It sounds Like you Opened a Big Bottle of Pills Now it Sounds like They're going Down the Hatch What is That What's Happening Hello Hello Hello Hello Now we're Like I Also Question Like he Doesn't Disagree With me When I Say it But he Doesn't Chime in To like Agree Or say

[23:00]And so Now I'm Like am I crazy Did he Actually Not tell Me this Am I Making This up On these Phone calls What do You think He tells His friends There's This guy He's 20 Years older And he's Just all He's doing He's middle Upper middle Management And all He wants To do Is talk St. Olaf And I Just don't Want to Do it He's dreading He's like I know I gotta be On his Phone call Tomorrow And he's Gonna tell Me This guy's Gonna be Approving PTO Requests For the Next 20 Years Here This is Who this Guy is He probably Gets on the Phone call With his Friends He's like Guys I Think this Guy is Trying to Groom me Yeah I'm pretty Sure He keeps Trying to Get more And more Personal On work Calls It's very Strange And every Time he Ups it It makes Me very Uncomfortable What dorm Did you live In which Room How did You fold Hey did You think Underwear should Be in the Bottom drawer Does that Make more Sense It makes More sense Should be In the Bottom drawer How's it Rolling

[24:00]Going with Matt Good I spent You know Last weekend We talked About this In the Last episode But we Had We're in Between Valentine's Day So we're Post Valentine's Day Planning for The next Valentine's Day Obviously Yeah And I Had the Pleasure Of spending Valentine's Day In San Diego With a About 2,000 Old White Guys Who were All wearing Blue Blazers Talking About Commercial Mortgages So it Was quite The Valentine's Day But I Ended up Going out With a Couple People that I know Fairly well Just because Why wouldn't You spend Valentine's Day with People you Know And we Tried to Get Reservations At a Place And they Were running 45 minutes Behind Which prompted You guys Remember the Old Seinfeld You know Oh I We've got Your reservations Yes we've got Your reservation You know So Anyone can Take a Reservation You need To keep The reservation So that Was good So we Decided to

[25:00]Walk down The street We were In the Gas lamp District Of San Diego If anybody Ever goes It's a Wonderful Little area And stopped In at a Thai food Spot And if You guys You guys Know me I hate Vegetables Somehow I have Been able To find A couple Two three Dishes You know At Thai Restaurants Because Sarah Loves them And so I try To Acquiesce A lot When we Go to Thai food Restaurants One being Road OSHA Here in Twin Cities Wonderful Can I Shout out To road OSHA Matt Can I Guess One of the Meals that You like To eat It Sure Tao Chicken Nope I actually Really only I really I've actually Really only Tried one Ever He was Lying to us I was gonna Guess Chicken skewers It's the Pineapple fried Rice Oh that's Nice You get it With chicken Yeah You should Get it With as Few amount Of vegetables As possible So I'm at This very Authentic Thai restaurant Can I Have the Pineapple rice They have Hey Rob

[26:00]Rob let me Talk Sorry I'm Sorry I'm just Saying that That's the Same meal My 14 Year old Just found Out she Likes the Thai restaurants Too so I Want to see If he's the Same as you Very much so So the buddy I'm with Orders before He orders a Few appetizers You know I'll Eat wontons You know I'll Have a few Things pot Stickers things Like that but You know so He's ordered So then he Orders his I Don't know if He had pad Thai Or whatever he Goes you know Let's take a Little bit more I'll kind of Get like a Medium spice You know you Just wanted to Knock it up a Notch so I Said I can I Have pineapple Fried rice with Chicken or can I Get it without Vegetables and she Goes no vegetable You know no I'm Not gonna do the Voice but she Says no vegetables No vegetables No vegetables Please you sure No vegetables and I say yeah Please I just No vegetables Thank you Know I try to Be very nice About it and I Say oh and I'll take you Know just a Little bit more Spice Just like him You know kind of Halfway up in the Spice so the Meal comes out And I think Those back Those guys in the Back said fuck This guy Because that thing Was the spiciest

[27:00]Pineapple fried Rice I had ever Gotten in the World and so I Think I've learned My lesson to not Piss off you Know a restaurant So have you guys Ever had an Experience where You pissed off Somebody at the Restaurant and you Know that they're Fucking with you Or do you Consequently Do you because I Know you know I Would never I Never send anything Back do you send Things back and Are you worried About it when it Comes back out to You I'm sure I've Never sent something Back no no way Yeah I actively Go out of my way To avoid anything Like that like Like I if I'm With someone and They're saying like Anything that I Think the server or The bartender could Even take it as As the slightest Offense in any Manner I freak Out I'm like I Don't want to do Anything that's Going to piss People off and I Think most people That are more Talkers at a Restaurant and Will say when Something I don't Think there's Anything wrong with That like that's Just what they're Comfortable doing I Just not comfortable Doing that it's like

[28:00]I'm to the point Where if I go to Dinner with someone And I will just Say if you don't Like it I'll trade I'll take the bad Thing and I will Stomach the thing That you don't like Every single time To not have to Send it back I I can't have Anything going back So to be fair it Was it was Wonderful like It was great I Loved it it was so Spicy that my back Of my head is Sweating like Dripping down my Neck I was sweating So bad and so I Just you know Luckily I knew the Guys so my guys Look this is super Spicy I am not Sending it back I Don't know if I can Do anything I think Sugar sometimes helps They used to send Sugar out at Road osha to kind Of neutralize it But I didn't ask For one thing I Ate about half of It and that's all I could muster and I had to get up And go pee like 19 times in the Middle of the night Because I drank so Much water I'm trying to You know so I Don't know it was It was a learning Experience but you Know all at the Same time it was Great and I Enjoyed it I Spent most of my Life thinking I Loved hot foods Like I bet I was

[29:00]28 I bet if you Would ask me when I Was 33 I'd have Been like yeah I Love hot food give Me spicy food and Now I realize I Absolutely do not I Cannot eat it very Well it makes me feel Like garbage I am so Sick the next day a Guy at the gym gave Me spicy ramen and I ate it and the Next day I thought I'm I just want to Say this When I went to the Bathroom it was like The greatest catch Or what was that Show what was That lobster show The world's deadliest Catch it looked like Those traps that they Were pouring out I Was so sick and Then like I would Eat hot salsa and I Would hiccup and I Was like a full pot Not an empty one Like a full pot That's what you're Saying yeah but Matt were there Zero like were There the fewest Vegetables you've Ever seen did they There was absolutely None it was so That's why it was it Was awesome it Was so great so Matt it was so Wonderful do you React differently to This type of thing Because it's like not Good friends so if It's the four of us Out for dinner my Guess is you might Just say I'm not Going to eat it and You'd leave it or

[30:00]Would you eat would You have done this Exact same thing no Matter who was with You so like this one Other than the spice It was wonderful it Was so good like it Was great but this it Was so spicy that it Was more or less that It was just hard to Eat you know like Fast and I don't Eat fast to begin With but like I had To really slow down And again I'm I was just sweating Profusely from my Head I don't know It was I would not I would not have Sent it back it Just it would have Been great if I Hadn't pissed him Off because it Would have been if It was like the Medium spice it Would have been like The greatest Thai Food I ever had me Pretty you know Americanized Thai Food but all in all It was great but I Just I learned my Lesson if I'm I Just have to pick Around the vegetables For next time Rolling going Russell how's it Going with you So you've made a Switch of the Strategy you will Now pick around the Vegetables as opposed To special ordering Zero vegetables Yeah rolling going Things were going Good I know we Talked about this a Few weeks ago I Remember I was Asking you guys for Advice I was going

[31:00]Out with a dinner Going and her Friends there was Going to be a large Group for a birthday Party where I knew The guy's birthday But I didn't know All the people that Were going right Yes so I thought I Could share some of My experience and See what you guys Think so so we End up going in There's a group of Probably like about Fifth probably Fourteen people there And I'm like actively Telling people I'm Happy to sit on the End it doesn't bother Me if I sit on the End and I'm not Involved in like all The conversation or Everything but I'm Still sitting near the End but not all the Way on the end and I Offer numerous times To people like you Know there was Another person coming And they were gonna Have to sit on the Other end I'm like I'm good I'm not Offended you know Like maybe some People are I'm not Offended but so we Get there and we sit Down everyone's really Nice everyone's having A nice dinner and Now Russ were you Yelling this Were you saying it Like a little too Loud where you're Like yeah I'm Actually good down Here on the end Did they want to Did they want to Put you in the Center were they Trying to show you Off a little bit

[32:00]I don't I don't Think why don't you Wait out why don't You wait outside Russ I'm gonna go see my Friends well that's When I offered that That didn't go very Well but so anyways So there was a couple That was there and I've gotten to know Them a little bit They're very nice People I've hung out With them before but They had gone on a Cruise the first key To succeeding at a Dinner like this and When you Find out if anyone's Taken any trip you Ask them every damn Question in the world About that trip people Love to talk about Trips that they've Taken they love to Give advice about if You were going to do This is how you Should do it the key The key the first key To success at one of These things is when You latch on to Something where Someone wants to talk About it you just fire Off questions until You have exhausted the Topic right yes yeah Absolutely there's a Guy there's a guy who My brother knows Actually who lives in My neighborhood who's Whose daughter goes to My son's school and He's the guy where at A school event of

[33:00]Parents if you can get Him going and all of a Sudden now there's a Whole circle of people Around him he's the Focus he's telling Stories you're chilling Out there's no small Talk that like that's The kind of person who 10 years ago I'd have Been like man this guy Talks a lot now I'm Like this man is a Hero I'm going to Into a meditative state And I will allow him to Control the conversation Yeah he's the captain Aaron's main social Reference point he has Right now is guy at School function with All the kids like all These parents you're Forced to chat with Yeah and then You just let Don handle it it's Great so then the Next thing that comes Up is I'm sitting There and at some Point the Gentleman whose Birthday it was he He's gotten know me I've hung out with him A handful of times In there I know him But I don't know him Super well but at one Point he was like hey This is Russ and I'm Russ I want to make Sure you meet the Other people that are There he's very nice Very making people Feel welcome Introducing them and Everything so there's A lady sitting next to Me and there was kind Of a break in between Tables it was like a Really long table so

[34:00]There's kind of like a Two or three foot Space so those Servers can kind of Walk in between if you Will so anyways the Lady turns and now we Have to start a Conversation so here's What I went with I Decided to go with Can you explain your Life to me in three Sentences Oh wow That is so aggressive But it's not no hold On but it's like in a Way of like tell me Like three super fun Things about you and So she actually took It very well and she Said she like explained Who she was and how She knew the people That were there and it Actually was a good Starter for a Conversation you guys Might think it was Aggressive it actually Worked the Russell's Like what it was You try that out try That on all three of Us let's see how it Works all right I'll Start with Aaron Explained me Your what's your life in Three sentences I grew up in Iowa and Had a great family I Met a great woman in Minnesota Now we all got to say This now we go now we

[35:00]Easily have a oh how Do you guys decide to Live and move to California that's so Interesting yeah there's There's easy ways to Branch off I'm not Gonna lie those three Facts you can nail it From there it sounds Like you're trying to Get in this person's Pants Russell okay That's the vibe I'm Getting this is I know It's true it's true It's true I just took Mine off what's your Sign all right Matt how About you Matt describe Your life in three Sentences somebody would Have asked me this Question and there was a Gap between the tables I Would I gotta go to the Bathroom I like the Twins I like the Vikings I like the Timberwolves You know knowing that That person probably did Not like know any of Those who those are all Right next you know How about you describe Yourself in three Sentences I would say Yeah I don't know I'm From Minnesota stronger Than you I'm stronger Than people think okay I would say I married a Great woman okay I don't Know if Rosie said great I think he said good so I'm going great and then I would be like and now I'm stuck in pretty much An endless void of

[36:00]Existence and I'm Starting to feel every Day when I go to work and I walk up the same steps And I get the same bike And I ride at the same Time and I go as the Days seem to blend in And even the weekends Now seem to be getting Shorter and Shorter this is where I'm gonna cut you off I Would have said there's No run-on sentences Anyway we're not doing I Should have taken Rob's Approach that would have Been less rude I should Have taken Rob's approach Just go completely dark And into the void yeah so Then eventually maybe it Was because of my Questioning eventually she Switches seats with her Husband so the husband Sitting next to me now for A little bit so I decided To go a different route On this one you gotta sit Next to this guy yeah I Decided to go a different Route how what do you Think of this question I is trying to get in my Pants please switch seats With me please switch seats Do not ask him about his Life do not tell him about Our trip he will talk you Forever about it so the Next guy he sits down and I know that this is a guy Probably about our age I

[37:00]Would say early mid 40s Pretty normal looking guy Or whatever and so I Decided to go with this Question this is my this Is my my icebreaker with Him what are your three Favorite video games ever You can pick old school Games you can pick old School games you can pick Current games you could Pick an arcade game you Could pick whatever you Want I want to get to know You through the video games Or arcade games that you Like what do you guys Think of that as as an Icebreaker I like that one I think that's good but Every once in a while you're Gonna hit that person who Doesn't play video games And it's gonna yeah man What would you say Matt to That I don't know Super Mario Brothers Super Mario Brothers 2 Super Mario Brothers 3 I would go Mario Kart FIFA Super Mario Maybe 95 and missed How about you Rob I would Say Mario Kart 8 I would Say Mario Kart Double Dash Is a huge part of my life And then honestly I would

[38:00]Probably say Battlefield Though considering I played It for an hour and a half Today I'm a 40 year old Man by the way I briefly Got addicted to plans Versus zombies though that One but that one I quit I Was playing my kids played That playing plans versus Zombies in my sleep I Couldn't sleep I couldn't sleep Because I was playing it in My head so that one that's Honorable mention for me if You ever meet Leo you could Talk to him about that he's I will I think we had a Plans versus zombies birthday Cake at one oh nice so we'll Chat about it so I will say This potato on it I wasn't Aware that two of the other Gentlemen at this dinner are Gamers so that was kind of Part of the reason I was like I bet this will work I bet This will be a good Conversation and it actually Started about an hour long Conversation with about four Of us over video games which Was fantastic what are your Top three Russell what are Wait I want to guess Russell's Top three yeah Mike Tyson's Mike Tyson's punch out punch Out for sure golden eye Golden eye for sure tech Mobile yep I said NCAA

[39:00]Football 2000 I love that Yeah I love the PlayStation We spent a lot of time we Said I was on old Rocky Town I got to put in NHL 95 I know it kills the vibe When I add stuff like this but I can't it's good too and Yeah I would you know The NHL's who is the who is 91 from the Red Wings No better off yeah you want To know where I did I felt Like I made a mistake bringing Up video games though so that The two of the guys that were There that I met before I know They're into current stuff They've always been into games It's one of their big hobbies And everything and so I like Talking about this stuff but I'm not a current gamer I Don't know any of the current Games I don't play any of them I don't even played anything In probably 10 plus years so When we start talking about It and they're talking about These games then they're Asking me what I like and I'm Like you know talking about Stuff from like 20 years ago Yeah and then I felt like I'm Kind of loser where it's like It'd be like if we were talking Basketball and Aaron started Talking about Luka Donovich or Whatever the guy's name is on

[40:00]Dallas and then all of a sudden I was like yeah man that Akeem Olajuwon's got an awesome Dream shit you know it's just Like so dated you remember Danny Ferry great But I think video games are Like that right where you can Always talk about the classics I Think everybody can relate to a Super Mario Brothers it comes Especially now it's like with the New switch right I mean then The Nintendo whatever you can get All you know 50 games or Whatever yeah Nintendo had a Great they had a great game where You could play Super Mario Brothers against other people and Every person you killed went to Their screen and so like some People you could just get like I Knew I knew where all the power Ups were as I went I hadn't Played in 30 years and I was like Yep here's a secret block I'm Gonna get all the coins I'm gonna Do this it's pathetic so the Last thing I had to ask you guys About this dinner it ended up Being a very fun time everyone That was there was super fun Super personable everyone Had interesting things to talk About it was a great time to the End of the night comes and the Girlfriend of the guy whose

[41:00]Birthday it was is like I'm Picking up the check I'm doing The wait this is a boyfriend Girlfriend thing I don't know What they call each other they Portray that in public that's so Good on that guy's podcast what Do you think he's calling you Probably annoying video Game guy or stupid video game Guy and your friend you were There with what was he calling That person probably the lady Goes to dinner with the stupid Video game guy you're good at This you're good at this is a Wily coyote he's not falling for These logic traps it's hard to Pin it down yeah logic traps so Anyways yeah obviously clearly Obviously so the bill comes and You know it's like 12 people it's Like an $800 bill and she's she Says I'm getting it and so almost Everyone I make multiple offers I Get cash out I'm like because you Don't know when someone's getting Something like we ordered like an Appetizer I probably wouldn't have Ordered if I knew that was Happening I ordered a number of Extra drinks that I certainly

[42:00]Wouldn't have ordered if I knew Someone was picking up the tab Yeah what is your guys thoughts On when someone picks up the tab I'm of the belief that I offer Twice I offer once and say hey I'd Love to contribute I'd love to Pay they if they say no I make One more effort and after that I'm Going to give it to them and then After the second effort if it's Genuine I think you got to let Them pick it up if that's what They want to do what do you guys Think two or three times you know I would say you know it yeah you Know it Russell when you've when You've gone as far as you can go And they're just you know they're Just gonna they're gonna do it so You I think acted 100% Appropriately there I'm the same I'm one yeah Rob and I are the Same one sincere offer pay it Forward because if it's in your Head that you're gonna pay we've done A lot of great things we've paid a Big old bill for birthday that kind of Surprised everybody yeah and guess what You feel like a fucking baller when you Do that right just feel awesome okay Until the bill comes and you Accidentally add a 20% tip and then it Turns out that there was already a 20%

[43:00]Tip added and 20% of that is quite a Bit no Rob that's a service charge That's going to the that's going to Aaron's told us that goes to the Restaurant not the server oh no it's True you can still tip on top of that This feels a little awkward though Because I still haven't paid Russell For the hotel room in Las Vegas So I need to text Matt and find out How much those rooms were I'll look it Up that's one offer Rosie that's all you Need that's it that's my offer it was Very nice for to do and I think the key With only offering once or twice is if Someone's doing that like there's Probably one time where they're just Maybe trying to be nice real quick but They're hoping people jump in maybe They don't want to pay it but yeah you Offer a second time and they say no like Part of their enjoyment of that night is Them getting to do something nice for Other people right so I think that's A good thing right and if you Kind of badger them about the check You're kind of taking that the grace Away from them if you will is that the Only thing about it is yes the only Thing about it is is I hate owing people I hate owing people and if I owe anybody

[44:00]Please let me know because I hate it Love when other people owe me right like I'll buy your coffee now you up you owe Me a coffee you know now you owe me a Coffee kind of a thing and then try to Get them to never pay you back or Whatever but I it makes me more Uncomfortable Russell to think like I'm Going to see this person and you know They didn't need to pay for my two extra Drinks or something so I don't know I Might ask can I Venmo you something you Know just to see you know if when Everybody else isn't around even just to Say look though I I ordered too much but I I certainly hear you that it's probably A nice gesture I always acknowledge that I ordered too much like they'll say I'm Paying I'm like oh no I wouldn't have Ordered those extra drinks yeah but That's it there's no other part to that But oh no how will I sleep tonight I'm Like oh you get that receipt and you see Those 12 daiquiris that's me rolling Going Rob how's it going with you listen Disaster for Valentine's Day first of All pulled off the smartest move of all Time which is it was alluded to earlier But I I came to work and somebody

[45:00]Said listen this is the breakfast my Husband cooked for me and I was like Dang that's a great idea so I went on to Google and I typed in Valentine's Day Breakfast and I looked at the image Search and then they were too nice so I wrote Valentine's Day breakfast iPhone And then I found some pictures that looks Like I could have taken it I was gonna Type in Valentine's Day breakfast Amateur but I was like well that's weird That I would go right to the word Amateur right it's like a search term Like that's not even that's not even in Someone's normal lexicon if you use the Word amateur there's only one place That's coming from those links are Purple those links are already purple That's in the Bing search Valentine's Day Breakfast tan lines you know it's like Just another way around the amateur Search so I googled up and I put up Multiple pictures I was like oh here's a Breakfast I made Jenny you know in bed Did it and so many people liked it and Complimented me and thought I was so Great it was so smart guys everywhere I Highly recommend you just Google just Google anything a nice dinner and be Like hey made this tonight and this is Amazing because I 100 knew the second I

[46:00]Saw that this was a joke I knew Rob was Doing a bit right away I saw and I was Like I'm so excited to see where this Goes no got a lot of love got a lot of Positive reaction hey just keeping it real out there Kind of now the only problem with Valentine's Day is that we had a party Here for my daughter my wife said listen You got to go in there's a store that Sells balloons right there go in and buy Some balloons this led to a train of Disasters okay this was just disaster After embarrassment after disaster so Here I am in the Duane Reade buying Balloons immediately I have to go up to The guy hey can I just buy these ones That are already inflated and he looked At me like I was the dumbest thing on Two legs and he goes yeah of course so Now I am walking around and all the Balloons are by the checkout so I walk Around the checkout meanwhile people are In line I'm walking around them looking Up at the balloons like an idiot like a Mole that's a nice balloon that's a nice Balloon so I am untapping the balloons From the decorations of the store so Once again I look like an idiot right as I walk around to the checkout my balloons Get tangled with the store balloons no

[47:00]And immediately it forms geordian knot The likes of which I have never seen Okay I it immediately forms a toughest Knot and the worst thing possible happens The guy behind me starts helping me Untie the knot did your fingers touch or Not they definitely touch you're like Trying to do the knot together and Meanwhile there's like people in line And I'm like and the whole time I'm just Thinking of this voice of Jenny's but Why don't you just go by there buying Some balloons buy some Balloons and I'm like this I knew this Was gonna be a disaster so then I get The balloons okay walk out Of the store so now I am walking down Lexington Avenue in New York City with a Bunch of balloons It is so windy and so cold so what do The balloons immediately do deflate the Balloons are so cold they immediately Deflate like halfway so now instead of Looking like a cool guy with Valentine's Day balloons first of all By the way when you're an adult carrying Balloons on Valentine's Day everybody Every woman is looking at you like you Cheap son of a that's what you're Gonna get your wife are balloons what

[48:00]Is going on you're getting balloons for Your wife for Valentine's I'm like no This is for so I had to like walk around Be like this is for a kid's party this Is for a kid's party they that didn't make Any better no I don't think that makes It better either right no it doesn't Help me yeah hey there's a guy walking Around with balloons saying it's for a Kid's party not great so then it's Halfway deflated I go into the liquor Store okay buy some liquor store Not big enough to hold these balloons Ceiling's not tall enough so the balloons Are bumping everything's moving I'm Looking around everybody's looking at me With the balloons so now I have a bottle Of I have a bag full liquor walk down To the grocery store that Jenny says oh Don't meet me at the grocery store three Blocks away you want to guess what's in Between me and the grocery store only The most sharp pointy trees I've ever Seen in my whole life it was like a Video game level I am walking through Trying to move the balloons meanwhile The wind is whipping the balloons around It's hitting people in the face that are Walking by me and of course every all The sidewalks are super narrow I then Have to go into a grocery store with the

[49:00]Balloons now what does this grocery Store also sell do you want to guess Balloons so I look like a guy Who stole balloons and is now walking Around and I'm like I'm gonna have to Walk out of here and just they also sell These are my balloons what did you buy For liquor by the way what was your What's your liquor style on Valentine's Day it's just some red breast I don't Know if you've ever heard of it it's not A big deal and some grenadine because Again this is for a kid's party I was Making surely demos grenadine I was like Shino liqueur so then oh just you might Think it's over guess what I've got to Take now all the grocery bags because of Course she's off to do something else I'm taking all the grocery store bags to The subway oh do you just walk down the Escalator to get to the subway nope it's An elevator so now I have to get into an Elevator with these balloons then get on Probably the most crowded subway car I've Been on in quite some time and here I am With these giant balloons on the crowded Subway humiliating I come back and my Daughter says oh those are okay so that Is my balloon story you had to know when You got sent out on this mission that it

[50:00]Was gonna be you can't get on a subway With balloons and think that's gonna go So well right you have to be aware of This I would rather get on with the Christmas tree that I get on with Getting out of the Christmas tree was at Least cool and fun getting out with Valentine's Day balloons was humiliating Because it literally they like move Around and bonk people in the head and I'm like yeah I'm sorry the balloon my Balloons are bonking you in the head I Don't know what to do like Aaron and Matt Did you get your wife's Valentine's Day Balloons no no Sarah did give me a Nice card though this year but a very Nice message in it yeah did you give it Back to her did you give it back well I Still have it so yeah I suppose I could Give it back to her no balloons I did Actually I I I got a very nice card It was hand painted and the card was from Des Moines so major shout out to Anna For my my Valentine card awesome wow Your wife gets used up for Valentine's Day yeah and I got some delicious Bitters some tamarind bitters to go with

[51:00]My mezcal I love a good life out here Yes yeah really guys let's get into the Album wait you got tamarind bitters yes Come check them out oh yeah all right I Will listen we are talking about Hajira by Joni Mitchell coming out 1974 1976 and basically the big thing about This album so this is what is this our Third Joni Mitchell is this our fourth I Think it's the third yeah and Hajira is her eighth album and basically This was based around Hajira means Travel and this was based around three Trips that she took one with Bob Dylan On tour for a six-week tour of Her own until that broke up because she Had been dating the drummer who's going To come up over and they had a Bit of a tumultuous relationship due To the fact that she was the guy Who played Chuck Yeager in the right Movie the right stuff so something to Think about when you're watching a movie It's it's better than the Lighting guy or whoever what's her name Fleetwood Mac was getting on with right yeah the grip

[52:00]The grip was that what it is a lady Yeah but it was a lighting guy grip the Gaffer I think they just called him the Grip and then the so then yeah so Then basically and then she took a road Trip with an old Australian steward That she had been having an affair with And did a road trip with him and Somebody else all the way to Maine and Then she drove back to California all by Herself what you're gonna hear on this Album is that by her eighth album Joni Mitchell is bored she's bored of the pop Pop Pop Pop sound she thinks a lot of the Session musicians are missing like the The kind of the effervescence of the Music and so she's they say hey you Should go find some don't make me sound Like a moron when you say that Aaron Wait no I liked it no I was Honestly it was like that's a great turn Of phrase yeah you know what thank you See I take compliments sincere I'm good At it and basically she began to seek Out Jazz musicians who to play Jazz Musicians to play on the album and so She got linked with this Jocko Pistorius Who's a famous bass player and so you

[53:00]Hear a lot of kind of I don't know like Running fretless bass on this album you Hear you know just kind of a more of A I hate to say it Aaron but I think This album is influenced by Jazz I think It's fair to say with this album and I Think it was a gateway for her because Then she ended up doing albums with Wayne Shorter who was in weather report With Jocko Pistorius right and with Charles Megas so I think this I think This truly was but Rob you play some Bass have you ever played fretless bass I don't even know how this works yeah of Course I bought you know that when I Bought my first base it was immediately A six-string fretless bass one of the Hardest instruments to play an Incredible waste of money for my Parents the worst thing you could Possibly buy to learn to play the bass And just how the hell yeah how do you Even begin learning this instrument you Just put your finger on the thing and Then it makes notes and then everybody's Like yeah that's okay I guess but I mean That's crazy right so that means I I know We need to play the music but that means That all of the tracks that Jocko was Playing on here yeah we're listening he

[54:00]Just knows by what geometric feel There's little dots those little inlays You know like the pearl inlays on a Guitar so they'll tell you where to put The fingers but yeah you kind of have to Guess and then use your ear to hit that Note I mean it's like playing an upright Bass okay you know they don't have frets All that stuff like that's true but Yeah it turns out it's actually really Hard to learn and it sounds off-key for Most of it so it's not great not a great way to play the bass That's a great decision okay and once Again Rob just going to whole hog Immediately on a hobby oh that's so Weird by the way where am I going to put My four microphones and headphones I Have for my in-person recording setup That I have anyway that doesn't relate That's not important let's get into Coyote the first song now Aaron this Might surprise you that this album which Is jazz inspired did not sell very well All right all the bad I can't understand How this wouldn't have been a bunch of Radio hits it's been reassessed now as One of our bigger albums but let's start You're just going to get a taste of it Right here Coyote Are you guys Coyote guys or Coyote guys Coyote I like Coyote who says

[55:00]Coyote I like this guy the cowboy hat It's fun to say I like saying Coyote I see Coyotes on my street I've seen one Once here in Minneapolis they see they Think that this song might be about Sam Shepard the famous playwright who also Played Chuck Yeager the right I will say That this was I think the only Single on the album is that right I Really like this song I'm glad they put It right here because it made me listen To the rest of the album to try to find A song as good as this one Still listening but it was a good way to Start the album let me say this song Has a lot of references to hitchhikers Or hitchers as she calls them you guys Ever hitchhiked or would you ever pick Up a hitchhiker oh I've never have no I've Never done I I think if my life was at The absolute bottom I think picking up a Hitchhiker would be kind of funny be

[56:00]Like talking to that bus driver except He could kill you know what I mean Like it's just that much more it's like Oh this is it's like having a Conversation Russell oh what do you give Me three things about your life you know Well I'm a large barge picked you up Though that'd be bad that only thing is Out of me growing anywhere close I've Done is I bought a guy a burger in Berkeley once and it was a guy who was Like asking for money outside the burger Shop and I tried to give him some money And he was like no actually I just need To eat so I went inside the burger shop And like bottom of burger we sat down And he ate his burger but he wasn't in My car I wasn't taking him anywhere so Like I've never pitched like I've never Actually picked up a hitchhiker well I Told you guys that story that one time Where I was driving Jenny was we just Had a baby or Jenny was pregnant so she Was in the back seat I can't remember Why she was in the back seat but she was In the back seat it was New Year's Eve Ask Aaron he probably knows why maybe she Was stuck there after Valentine's Day she Can't get up filthy she's like I'm still Recovering from the cone probably Appreciates that joke can you imagine

[57:00]Asking your wife hey it's Valentine's Day Should we go out to the back seat of the Car what no I'm tired and you're making Noise of the podcast it's keeping me up Or whatever they say oh the one time she Swoops in right there no I don't Think I don't think she would want to go Make love with me in the back of a car I Don't think that would happen what Were we talking about hitchhiker or Something hitchhikers don't have back Seats oh yeah well that's true me I just Only have one seat next up Amelia Was inspired by her breakup with the Drummer John Guerin and then she compared It to Amelia Earhart the Navigator hey I Believe another person who died in a Plane crash right Rob Is she gonna call the podcast don't make Me do it guys I've never heard from her before this is

[58:00]Terrible this is really bad hello This is hello is this the cone this is Amelia Earhart I heard you disappeared Many years ago whatever happened to you I'll tell you what I was You didn't have any hits is the thing Because we don't know what happened There's no help this is oh I I gotta go This is actually bad this makes me Uncomfortable doing this don't like this Hey Amelia one quick question for you Yes what were your thoughts on Orville And Wilbur Wright when they Made the 20 000 foot club and they Changed that plane to the name titty Hawk First of all the joke if I Remember it is that it's the 20 foot Club And kitty hawk is the name of the town Where they did that but that's okay Big fan of the podcast keep it up but This I just cannot keep doing this thanks Amelia we know you're up in heaven as

[59:00]Opposed to me love who's in hell thank You for calling you would actually be a Base at what's a sin okay and it turns Out trying to explore the earth is one I Am in hell okay and I feel bad even say That I'll see you guys amazing jokes That Amelia song has a vibraphone on It's kind of like a xylophone remember We talked about this once it was on I Don't remember what list it was on but We did the best vibraphone songs and it Was when Aaron had one of the best jokes In the podcast I I don't understand what's going on at All I'm totally confused by this whole Conversation let me ask you guys this Would you buy a shirt where it had airs Jordan and it was Michael Jordan playing A vibraphone is that an idea did I just Have an idea yes and you just see Michael Jordan and he's like and I took that Personally You know who else would buy it Rob our Loser listeners that's who airs Jordan

[1:00:00]Beck did it better somebody's like can You explain the shirt to me and they're Like actually no I can't I mean can you think of anything else but A skeleton playing this on his own ribs It's the only thing I can think of when I Hear this That's your best joke in like a month That's so good About the Roy airs playing the xylophone On the bones on his real old rib cage or The skeleton airs Jordan that was not a Joke airs Jordan playing right here is Coming out of the grave and playing This I'm telling you guys this show is Dumb we are getting dumber you just said That's the best course it is we've got a Cone calling in we've got a cold calling Into our show it's just when Russ said Oh yeah we did a vibraphone list I was Like we did yeah I know we did because

[1:01:00]We've talked about it multiple times yeah Right I was like that's even sadder than A Neil Young album but we remember some Of them Whitney love or Whitney Whitney Houston love will save the day Violet Femmes gone Daddy gone steam nah Nah nah remember the vibraphone yeah Good tracks we went out for pizza on Valentine's Day we're going I'm going Back to the Valentine content we went Out for pizza to my son's favorite pizza Spot and they were playing this was Incredible they basically played every Other song was Whitney Houston and then It was like some other slow jam so it was Like I have nothing and then I'll make Love to you and then it was I want to sex You up and then it was greatest love of All it was incredible I don't know who put The playlist together I it was so Fantastic I should have put it in my Rolling gun you know who didn't put it Together Elizabeth Holmes she would Never do anything nice for you never Ever she would never do something for me I think we can tell what good planners We are because all of our Valentine Day Content is coming out like March 4th This is terrible we're terrible at this

[1:02:00]We really are next up one everyone Enjoy your shamrock shakes tomorrow Thanks for listening God I love Those next one Aaron's really interested In this year furry sings the blues Aaron Was like This is Neil Young on harmonica Russ's Favorite instrument he sounds good Though right this one jumped out to me I Was like I like this harmonica We we've always liked Neil Young's Harmonica it was Bob Dylan's the One where he's just blowing the shit out Of it that you can't handle So this was actually about her Meeting the blue singer furry Lewis in Memphis so I wanted to get a little Furry Lewis you got to watch this guy Play sometime He's got like this slide style and he's Picking at the same time it's very Interesting Awesome oh this is great thanks Rob it's Almost like a claw hammer type thing A strange boy

[1:03:00]A strange this is about the Australian Steward Error flight attendant That's the word I'm looking for how Would you feel if Joni Mitchell was Calling you strange Really strange yeah you'd be like hey I Made it I think I'd like to have a song That Joni Mitchell wrote for me because It means I had sex with Joni Mitchell What's the script I mean agree go Ahead Rob Russell oh I was gonna say There's this thing about Joni Mitchell's Voice it's so distinct I don't know the Way she uses it it's you immediately Hear you know it's Joni Mitchell and I I'm not even a huge fan but listening to Two albums I know exactly who it is and Her voice is almost so prominent that I Almost can't hear anything else in the Music all I'm hearing is her voice Because it's so distinct I even have a Hard time like hearing the music behind Her sometimes does that make pretty sure That's the way it's supposed to be set up You know that's the way they mixed it And yeah she's got it well that's that's Why I think sometimes the bass comes in

[1:04:00]It's so forward it's kind of sure Shocking now when I heard the beginning Of this song tell me what this reminded You guys of I heard Neil Young To me this sounds like the beginning of Neil Young's songs all right Hey Yeah I bet it's the same thing it's Jenny's got a gun okay turns out you Guys are idiots didn't you ever watch Law and Order listen to the theme song From Law and Order I know I didn't watch Law and Order You don't think they listen to strange Boy listen to this it's your strange boy Again I wish our listeners could see Rob's Airbase stand up It's the same spot on yeah you're Definitely right I think it's closer to Janie's got a gun I think Rosie's right

[1:05:00]It's pretty similar to me I like that Janie's gotta go Ajira Which track is this from as Jira Oh Aaron what tracks to be a this must Be a titular track it's a very spiritual Titular track What is the scoop though so Russell only Hears Joni's voice and I think that's How it should be but what's the scoop With the guitar so we know there's Fretless bass but what is this guitar Sound it's it's a very metallic Sound right how does she get that Or who's playing guitar here it's not Just a an acoustic guitar I wonder if It's a 12 string like a 12 string Acoustic where they're miking it way Behind the bridge I mean that's where You would get that sound or or plucking It way behind kind of by the bridge okay It's a real specific sound it's a very Metallic song sound yeah so that was That song was about and that's a you can Hear a lot of the bass from Pistorius on That and he would actually multi-track

[1:06:00]His bass and play with him like four Times over himself which is how you get This kind of deep song sound my thing About Jocko is I just don't like how He's like telling everybody to get up Early all the time and it's like get out There and get after it and it's just Like parents can't you know do That man relax yeah it's weird that he Played on this album and joined the Seals yeah it's so crazy how he did that You get a roll in in your garage when You guys I don't need an alarm clock my Vibration wakes me up you know you guys Were talking about the fretless bass and This is that's the one thing other than Joanie's the voice that I heard on the Album it was super interesting to me and So I thought we could celebrate that a Little bit I didn't want to interrupt Your extended discussion over the Fretless bass at the beginning of this So I thought I could interrupt you now And we could do a list of the greatest Songs ever featuring the fretless bass And keep my streak alive for stepping on Russell's list intros nice work I didn't See I didn't see some people called the Fretless bass the old slippery neck so

[1:07:00]We're going to refer to this as the old Slippery neck like that hey you know What when I think about this bass I don't even worry much It's fretless So we've actually heard the fretless Bass on a few songs before I know Rob had Mentioned this one to me earlier tonight The bass on Graceland if you remember On diamonds on the souls of her shoes And you can call me Al the backwards Forwards the forwards backwards You have the repeat bass yeah that was a Fretless bass which was fantastic another One that's absolutely fantastic that was One of our favorite songs ever was the Band up on Cripple Creek has an amazing Amazing fretless bass on it right during The same time where they're doing the Oh my God is this the last Waltz it's Like I'm there but so anyways so my Understanding is this fretless bass kind Of came into popularity in the 70s Jocko Prestorius he was saying I read This quote he said I'm not a star I'll never be Sinatra Elvis or Ray Charles I'm just an imitator man I'm

[1:08:00]Doing a very bad imitation of the base of Jerry jamat Jimmy Fielder Jimmy Blanton Jimmy Hendrix John Coltrane Charlie Parker James Brown and Bernard Odom the cats man I'm just trying to back up the Cats that's how you man that's cool when you mention those guys you know you're good It's like I'm just trying to be like you know Jimi Hendrix or whatever and maybe like fairly Coltrane sure Jimmy Garrison no big deal next on the list is from 1979 hopefully we'll get the right song the Cue on this one this is staying walking on the moon or the police yeah you hear it Geez so the sound is different it's it's it's a fuller more forward kind of sound because you Don't have that metal from the fret so it's not like oh see this is why you're here it's Kind of more fluid between the notes is what I read yeah I like this Sting sounds good there too not that Sting needs anybody to pump him up but he actually was in a

[1:09:00]Jazz and fusion bands before forming the police in 1977. I believe it and he actually said in an Interview I was reading it was with music radar he said that he was playing these jazz and fusion Bands before he formed the police and Jocko became very much more prominent and totally recalibrated What it meant to be a bass player so I thought that was interesting he was definitely inspired by Jocko Notorious you think there's a musician where you would go to the bathroom faster than Sting when he Started playing his solo stuff he'd be like okay these are on the fields of barley I'd be like yep See a sting I'm out of here I wouldn't go to the bathroom if he was dressed in that crow outfit that He wore for his WCW NWO days though right he comes in with the bat and then the he takes off the mask And there's another sting mask underneath you can't leave you never know when he's going to Actually man that guy whoever promised more and gave less right he must have been hurt His whole career what I I know this is not a pot I know it's not a wrestling podcast you've done

[1:10:00]Your sting rap before I've heard this but I know all right next up on the list this is I think One of the most prominent fretless bass players there is this is Primus the song is Jerry was a Race car driver it's let's play right you can hear in the back there are you guys Primus guys To me they're a little too strange a little too weird what are your thoughts no every time I hear Primus it reminds me that I got a bass and I wanted to be like Primus and then I bought a Primus CD and then I hated Primus and I didn't like any of the songs and I was like what I thought I Hear Primus like just right now I get so stoked I'm ready to run through a wall and then if I Were to ever play Primus in my house on purpose I would be like I got to change it this is too Intense for me yeah all I told you about that apartment we rented right I told that story we're In this apartment and literally we're renting it in Maple Grove and literally every corner where you Turn on the wall is a framed Primus ticket so this guy had gone to like a hundred Primus shows

[1:11:00]And then like gotten like he had Primus posters all his whole house was decorated in Primus Stuff I've never forgot it it's been in my head I was just like what is going on there's so much Primus in here and nobody else noticed I was like this is crazy I read that Les Claypool interviewed Or auditioned to be in Metallica after Cliff Burton died and they said he was actually two Good and two weird to be in their band so he did great Metallica that's great all right here's Another there's another song from 1991 Matt this one's for you this is Pearl Jam even flow oh very Nice sounds from like butterflies Jeff I had a little harder time hearing this one so I gave Rob A separate time where I think it's just the fretless bass near the end so we can make sure we Heard it Yep I think he's I think he's like one of those guys that plays every type of bass he could possibly

[1:12:00]Play I think you're right and so he's got like three or four songs in each album that he just Uses a completely different bass yeah when you see him live does he switch basses Yeah oh yeah I mean he's you know like typically you see like the lead guitarist like when I went To the Smashing Pumpkin you can see that Billy Corgan's got 33 different guitars because he's Got 33 different songs and each one is set up you know for each one and you can see you don't Typically see that with a bass guitarist but you know he's got a he's got a set sitting back there That he goes and changes out so I we in my day we called those guys utility infielders because they Could they could Denny Hawkins yeah they could play every base yeah I one of The greatest bass holes I ever saw was when I went and saw that Prince concert and somebody handed him A bass and he ripped a bass solo and then put it back and I was like what yeah what He doesn't even play bass Rob as a bass player do you hear does it jump out to you when you're

[1:13:00]Listening to albums do you hear it more than like maybe I would or other people would yeah 100 I See and I I've never played music right and I can rarely hear the bass guitar I have to listen for It like I don't know it must be because I don't know what the hell I'm talking about but I cannot Hear bass sometime unless I'm really listening to it that's why Matt every he listened to the Song Elvira man I was like I don't what's everybody singing for yeah I can't hear that part what's this Pause yeah why are we pausing all right last thing on the list we're gonna go back in time A little bit to 1980. We might have covered this song I don't know for sure but this is Kate Bush The song is babushka oh oh I hear you yeah I can't hear it at all this wasn't on the album we heard though right I don't think so no no it

[1:14:00]Wasn't not I can hear the friendless base but I cannot tell you how many times Kate Bush has come Up just like and I'm like oh I know who that is now I sound smart yeah thanks to the podcast Josh Giblin was the fretless bass player and it was interesting they actually had a fretless bass On a lot of Kate Bush's songs and what they used it for was to like mimic a male voice so they were Always using the fretless basses like the male voice counterpart in her song so I thought that Was really interesting but Kate Bush she once said that Joni Mitchell is one of the very Few female influences on her Joni Mitchell stands alone so obviously Joni Mitchell big influence on Kate Bush who's had a big resurrection in the last year or so right popping away on the Zeitgeist Russell that was a top five list great list great list Sweet Try to think of another fretless bass joke but I just can't it's just not coming song for Sharon Rob do you want to work on your what was it called the Slippery Deck Slippery Neck the old

[1:15:00]Slippery Neck North Dakota there's your spot Matt I've actually listened to this album a lot Because I once heard that Prince liked it so I was like well I gotta check it out and once you Know that like not knowing that you wouldn't ever make the connection but you can I mean Prince was A known Joni Mitchell fan and you can hear once you know that you can hear where he borrowed from Her phrasing and her mannerisms in terms of vocally do you guys does Aaron does your wife Does she listen to a lot of Joni Mitchell or not yeah I mean yes I would say in recent years less So and definitely this one like when this one was on she was like wait what is this one so this Is not one that she's listened to as much but yeah definitely listens to a fair amount What does your son think of her he kind of dug this one but he's you know what's weird is like Now there's they're playing more music at like it is aftercare program at school so he's more into

[1:16:00]Like what's going on on the bus no or like the pop music like the other day he was like dad play that Song Stitches or like he'd be like can you play that song like we'll never ever ever get back Together so like that stuff he's like discovering Now like that's what he's lost yeah Aaron he's going on this journey where he's gonna have music Taste you have no idea what's going on it's a weird part of parenting I'll tell you that right Now I can't imagine I can't imagine Black Crow is talking about her trying to get To her second home on the British Columbia's Coast I love the intro to this song I know it's So different than the other songs I thought this sounded so cool it's more like your flight To the night song you're like it is that's what I thought of too this I just I didn't like this song At all I don't know like I just didn't feel like it fit in with the album no it really doesn't it's Very different and especially like the harmonics you can hear him playing that on the bass it's a Little it's a little bass heavy even for me and you guys know I like things a little

[1:17:00]Bass heavy but that was a little much even for me blue motel room Talking about getting back with the drummer that she broke up with saying hey tell all those girls You got German measles you're hanging out with me God that'd be awesome wouldn't it she says Like what Rob do you think you could pick up German measles from a Peloton seed in Vegas or no I you know what actually you can okay yeah that's a fact I read that on by the Way I have stopped saying that I see things on TikTok and I've started just saying that I see Things on TikTok and I've started just saying that I see things on TikTok and I've started just saying I read it in the times nobody cares nobody checks it source documentation isn't that important no Yeah the times has never made a mistake ever it's it's the same thing it's all great it makes me Sound so smart Refuge of the roads now this was a song about she visited a Buddhist meditation

[1:18:00]Master in Colorado and there's a little suspicion this guy's Wikipedia was pretty Good because he was famous for getting very drunk And then doing Buddhist monk stuff like telling you about Dharma and stuff like that and he once Drove a car into a toy store which oh I gotta admit kind of made me laugh like think of a car Just blown into a toy store just Rubik's cubes and like those paddle games just flying everywhere and Hitting little cars I mean guys it's one of the funnier places a car can crash if you think about It Rob I actually forgot to bring this up on Jerry was a race car driver by Primus but the that Story was about a race car driver who crashes into a telephone pole it's like if the macho man Or any Savage was a race car driver right oh yeah brother heart problems gonna go on a ride for my Jeep hope nothing goes wrong with me and the Mrs Elizabeth down in Florida oh yeah I had a problem Impression you guys know I can't help when you start talking about wrestling I had a problem come

[1:19:00]Up at a party recently we had a Hanukkah makeup party we were invited to and this guy shows Up wearing a pink macho man t-shirt he's wearing a macho man t-shirt so immediately I want to talk Wrestling and it becomes clear very quickly that he just liked the t-shirt and just is not a wrestling Fan it's like it's like the video games I bring up video games and the only thing I can talk about it It's not a good look I like to mourn you as a macho king I think that's kind of an aggressive Stance to take right off the bat it's true that didn't last that long all right let's get into the Rating system that's a good joke you didn't tell him about how the night before on Valentine's Day How your Mega Powers exploded thank you yeah I did it better it hurts if I can't do it it's Actually a medical condition oh please help me out oh yeah oh now I've heard my voice I can't Do the rating system Ms Elizabeth I know you're tired I know you got early meeting tomorrow but

[1:20:00]The doctor says if I don't Get the bad stuff out I can get seriously hurt Rob who would you have rather dated Ms Elizabeth Or sensational Queen Sherry oh that's not even close Ms Elizabeth come on all day oh yeah I The idea of Rosie Russell can you do one impression of Macho Man with blue balls please just for me Please I need what is what would you say Macho Man with blue balls he's got blue balls he wants to Get rid of that hot nut what would he say Elizabeth I have to release this tension or I could get severely injured like the atomic leg drop From Hulk Hogan yes he's the attention oh my God it's so good it's just it's the best Macho Man Impression there is it's so good I love it listen this album is coming in hot okay everybody was

[1:21:00]Asking me what are you doing his year what are you doing his year and this album is coming in hot On the list here's a question what percentage of your friends you think have ever heard of this album And for Aaron it's a hundred percent but for the rest of us 0.0 Yeah I don't listen some of these albums we just got to get through guys it's just the way it is It's it's the way that our life has been cast okay yep it's the life we chose or the life that Chose us at 133 is this album a normally fretted base it's perfect at 143 it's got the perfect Amount of frets it's just the way it should be it's at 133. If this album okay should be up higher on the list you think it's better like a fretless base Okay you think it's up higher this album got boned it should have been higher up on the list that Would be a rolling bone or is this album like something I tried to invent did not go very well It's the only fret base there's no strings there's no electronics it's just frets okay it doesn't Make any sense okay I was like we're going to the other extreme okay it's all fret bass that would

[1:22:00]Be a rolling groan you did not like this album what do you think Matt rolling well-toned rolling Boned or rolling grown 133 Joni Mitchell ajira from 1976. We've got four one two three we got Four Joni Mitchell albums on this list number three blue came out in 71. Number 110 Court and Spark which obviously we've already done I I honestly guys had do not remember that we did This album at 110. Yep Court and Spark came out in 71. This album at 110. Yeah Court and Spark came out in 71. 1974. Hegera comes out early 76 at 133 and then 258 is the hissing of summer lawns that's 170 in 1975. I just think this is way too much Joni Mitchell I can't believe she made this many Great albums in you know like a four or five year period to Rosie's point we haven't heard Linda Ronstead yet we've got so many other great albums coming up I just think this is too much

[1:23:00]Joni Mitchell and that this album should be lower on the list meaning it should have a higher number So I think it's rolling grown Matt how could you not remember these Court and Spark Episode which featured the following comedic bits okay the Alan Jackson Chattahoochee video breakdown oh the video that's probably I remember it as the video breakdown Episode I remember it as the Joni Mitchell Court and Spark Rob's classic comedic bit also known as Time plants how big would they get oh God damn that was an episode this episode sucks if we move On to Aaron that episode also featured Aaron buying solar panels from a door-to-door salesman who was Giving figs from his neighbor oh I got an update about that I have an update about that what next Episode that was because the song was also about figs that I did it was about Aaron being run over By like overrun with figs yeah God that's a good guys you know what stop the podcast right now go

[1:24:00]Back and listen to that episode that was actually a good one the other amazing thing was a Matt Contribution it was the peewee balloon deflating of the balloon up here people go back and listen To Court and Spark episode we've lost that is still one of the funniest peewee bits ever God that's hilarious and to think we just were talking about large Marge time is a flat circle Russell what do you think rolling well-toned rolling boned or rolling grown I I think Joni Mitchell is amazing her voice is one of a kind like I said earlier I enjoyed the fretless bass On this Jaco Pistorius I learned enjoying or listening to fretless basses where I could pull The right times so I I like listening to the album but for me it's just not my style of music there's Something I I don't want to use the word noodling I know we've used that term before but there's Something about the vocal style that's only when talking about fish only when talking about fish There's something about the album that just doesn't really appeal to me a whole lot so I I think Joni

[1:25:00]Mitchell is amazing but for me I don't think I'll come back and listen to this again so I'm going to Say it's rolling grown Aaron what do you think rolling well-toned rolling bone and Rolling grown and again I am thinking about Macho Man with blue balls so something to think about I Like this album a lot I've listened to it a number of times I'm not kidding when I compare it to Ghostface and then it's an album that I can put on and I'm not going to understand half of what He's talking about but I'm still going to enjoy it and let it wash over me but at the same time Matt is right this is a lot of Joni Mitchell in a short stretch on this list and I don't quite See why we've heard this now ahead of several other things that we're about to hear so as much As I enjoy the album and I would play it all day long and I have I would give it a rolling grown Unfortunately you guys are incorrect this album we're correct this time we are correct this album This album we're correct this time we are correct this album this is the one this gets a rolling Derivation okay guys when you're on top like Joni Mitchell was with this run she gets bored she's

[1:26:00]Got to change this up she's going from folk Joni to jazzy Joni with the help of her friends and a Road trip guys should we be doing a road trip now that we've kind of reached our peak creatively Obviously like we're going downhill everybody knows let's do a road trip Matt a road trip And drive to the desert and record a podcast that is such a cool idea and nothing could possibly go Wrong with that next up did you guys hear that the Fugees were making a soup and they forgot they Just had forgot they had to add one herb one time it's the score oh one time that's Such a good But you're just too lazy to look it up rolling grown I'm calling it already Tell you what white clef jean shorts can you guys remind me of that I think that's a good

[1:27:00]Joke for next week white clef jean shorts Beck did it better ultimate warrior at Wrestlemania I'm gonna get all baby oiled up Climb to the top rope and drop my elbow on that old slippery neck oh yeah It's time to say goodbye that hurts yeah it's even funnier when you realize that You know macho man had the smallest balls Well he was a baseball player makes sense oh you're thinking of Randy Poffo What if you would have yelled at him what if he was like the division three player of the year That played at St. Olaf who was getting yelled at by the guys with the cone what would he have done Hey Poffo you suck Oh brother yeah wait till I get my jeep and drive after you oh does anyone else smell toast oh no

[1:28:00]The good stuff is after the ding again Hit it one more time after the final There we go It's like valentine's we can ding twice Hit it once more hit it again It's like Hit it again NHL 95 style well that was fun guys I gotta say That's the only thing that's going to change is you're going to have to try and get the most out of this Because you're going to have to try and get the most out of it And you're going to have to try and get the most out of it You're going to have to try and get the most out of it You're going to have to try and get the most out of it

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