Jeff Buckley: Grace (1994)
[00:00]All right, here we go. Is Russell coming to us from his smash pad? No. Hold on. Shut up. Shut the fuck up. Jeez, Rosie. Don't come in late. We've only been sitting here for 40 minutes waiting to ask him this question. I know. We are dying. You just bombarded before the meeting. We are dying. We are dying to see why Russell moved into a house that somehow has an SD camera now. He didn't move yet. We cannot figure it out. He has not moved yet. What? Okay, we got to clap. Let's get going. On four. One, two, three, four. Like, Russell moved into a lower graphic quality house somehow. Wait, what? Your camera just seems like it's like SD now. It seems like it's like, I don't know. You moved to a house where it's like 1994 and you're running Windows 3.11. All right. 1993. Much more fire. Ice cube coming with the half ounce. All right. So, we clapped. Okay. I bet I know how I can fix that. Oh. In 2020, four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums decided
[01:02]by Rolling Stone Magazine. This resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music, excoriated the order, and led us to making this podcast. Oh, yeah. Mm-mm. Okay. Now, it looks like he's kind of like, he's like looking at the front of his car is what it looks like to me. Like, there's something wrong at night and he's looking at the front of his car. He looks like Rosie trying to read the screen every time Rosie's got to read the screen. Listen, I can't. We cannot talk about this right now. We got to get into it. We are far from experts. We promise to do almost no research. All opinions are our own unless you disagree. Please sit back and enjoy Beck Did It Better. We are all the way up to album 147. 147. I love Seagull. Nailed it. God, that's on the top of the dome. Oh. Frank Ocean, you're next week, but get ready because here I come. And it's Grace by Jeff Buckley. Okay. Now, I'm mad that this is the greatest hit CD. You know what I mean? All right. Because he's died. I get the joke. All right. This is the one and only.
[02:00]I mean, it is his greatest hit CD, technically. You could say it's a compilation, kind of. Guys, we are going to talk about this album, but we got to get right into it. Let's turn on the radio. Okay. We're out on the boat. Let's turn on the radio. Let's see what's on. Okay. And listen, we don't know what song I picked to do a parody of. It could be any of these songs. Okay. It could have been any of these songs from Mojo Pin to... Whatever that is. Whatever that one from the 1500s is. Dream Brother. Corpus Christi Carol. Yeah. Corpus Christi. You know, it could be anything. Let's just find out. Who knows? Let's just find out. We don't know. All right. Oh, God. I forgot what this song was about. I apologize. What's up, everybody? Welcome to KROB. K-R-O-B. Last week on Back to the Better. Oh, yeah. Turns out they had a friend visiting who had their dog with them. And that dog is apparently... Very territorial. And I did not know that dog was there.
[03:00]So I was in the backyard. The dog was in the house. Ran out of the house through the dog door. It bit me on the ankle. Punctured all the way through. Of course, said her dog was up to date. I don't believe it. But I don't think I have rabies. So, yeah. Of course, the lady said, Hey, I'm a dog. You got a shot. Aaron, Aaron, Aaron. Just blink twice if you're going to make that dog get put down. Just blink twice. You're a good dancer. Just blink twice. Aaron. No, I'm not being... I mean, I should test its brain, Aaron. They just do... Test the brain. Aaron hit a ball in his neighbor's yard. A dog came out and it bit him hard. But he won't say what legal actions he'll pursue, yeah. When Aaron was bit, he was really miffed. His kid had to go. So what? Euthanasia.
[04:01]Euthanasia. He wants to make a... Euthanasia. Twice if you're going to make that dog get put down. Just blink twice if you're a good dancer. When Aaron got bit by the pooch, he got to choose what to do. A dog that wants to chew ya. It went to a farmer and told Wallace, but then he'll drive to the vet for sweet justice. He watched and laughed as he ordered one new shoe. Euthanasia. She doesn't do...
[05:09]Top five song we've heard. Uh... Uh... Uh... Uh... That is really funny. Mind you, match him. Everyone's been waiting for it. Everyone's been waiting for it. I would say that's the number two song about euthanasia, except for that song that goes... Youth of a nation. All right. What song was that? Yeah, we are, we are. Youth of a nation. Yeah. I don't know who sings it, but I'm starting to laugh. What else is the youth of the nation? They say it right in this one. Oh, yeah. It's right there. Oh, listen. This is Beck Did It Better. I've got four guys here who want to try bathing on the roof. They seem like they think that's a good idea. Huh? I mean, a flat roof. I'm thinking of an apartment guy. It's not a slanted roof. That'd be almost impossible. Get up. Russell's up there nude on the roof, slant. He can't get down. I'm spraying him with a hose. I would love to take a bath on the roof. Yeah, it sounds nice. It's a sun bath.
[06:00]Sounds great. So with that image, I've got Russell in Minneapolis. Russell, how are you doing? Rob, remember that time when you let me know what was really going on below? But now you never show me that, do you? But remember when I moved you? Hallelujah. You know, that hemorrhoid is gone. So I am back to full strength. Just in case. We're back at it then. Yeah, just in case. Back at it? Back at what? All right. I've got Matt in Minneapolis. Matt, how are you doing? Good. That was the exact same line I was going to say. Something along the lines of, you used to tell us what was going on below, and I'm looking forward to hearing more about it today. So thanks for having me. It's almost like we only know one song off this album. If you would have called Matt first, and he would have stole my quote and stole my bit, it would have been over. Aaron. Now, Aaron, recently he's been traveling, okay? Aaron went to Dubai and Abu Dhabi, and he came back and he told me, do you know what the difference is between Dubai and Abu Dhabi? What's that? Well, it turns out people in Dubai, Aaron was asking if they like the Flintstones,
[07:00]the cartoon of the Flintstones. Okay. Right? And people in Dubai do not like the Flintstones, but people in Abu Dhabi do. Okay. All right. The long setup. Long setup. I got you. Abu Dhabi. This is our last. Abu Dhabi. This is our last. Must I dream and always see your face? Let's talk about Jeff Buckley's grace. Jeff Buckley's grace. Do you think the Flintstones would be funny if it was like what we think cavemen actually look like now? You know what I mean? I have a different line than these other two guys. Rob's really stuck on these Flintstones. Aaron. I'm a bad loser. Listen to Rob's jokes and laugh at his jokes. It's about Rob, Rosie. If you haven't, we're 147 in. If you haven't realized this is about Rob. I'm over here going into the depths of my mind trying to come up with something. Aaron puts on a fancy safari hat, thinks he's the best. He's the star of the show tonight. I do not have to, I cannot get into right now what our Zooms looks like because it looks like we're going to a costume party, the four of us. It's so bizarre. So here's, but Aaron, honestly, I have no recollection of what you said
[08:00]because I wasn't listening at all. And I'm trying to be better. I'm trying to listen to my co-hosts. But I was literally thinking of a scene from the Flintstones where it's actual cavemen. Like ugly, like naked, like monkey type people. That's two weeks in a row we brought up ugly. Wait, but like one of their wives' names is Ugo Jr.? Ugo Jr.? No, my wife's name is Ugo Jr. Camp on Wanda, we hold you in our hearts. Listen, I get why I'm Ugo Jr., but then you named your kid Ugo III? You hated that name. You kept it going? Yeah. The Ugo line continues? Yeah. It's like that one guy who's like, I'm not going to cut hair. I'm going to be a running back. The dad's like, I named you Marion Barb. All right. Marion Barb III. It's funny. I'll bring up this story. I'll bring up this story. I'll bring up this story. I'll bring up this story. Sometimes people don't like their own name, but then they name their kid it. It actually happened with my grandma and my mom. My grandma had a name. She didn't like the name. She had it legally changed to something else,
[09:00]and then she named my mom her original name. Wow. You got to say what the name is, and then bleep it out if we... It's a unique name. It's a Russina. So my mom's name is Marthea. Marthea. Marthea. Not like... That's the only Marthea I've ever met in my life. Yeah, the only one I've ever met. And her mom's name, I believe, was Marthea at one point, but then she changed it to Joyce. Whoa, whoa. She went from Marthea to Joyce? I believe so, yeah. Total left turn. Wow. I would like the name Marthea. It's a cool name. I mean, I'm sure everybody would be like, oh, you mean Martha? And you'd be like, no, it's Marthea. I'm sorry. There's an extra L on there. Well, maybe you'd like it for yourself, or for your daughter, but not for yourself, because that's what happened in my family. That's a great story. I did not know that story. That's amazing. Hmm. So maybe there could be someone who used to go by Marthea, Ugo, senior, named their kid Ugo Jr., and then changed it to something else. It blew my mind again when I was editing that episode, and it was ugly. I was like, I forgot about that. That was unbelievable that his name was ugly,
[10:01]and I never caught that. Just a dumb kid, just sitting there, just a dumb kid, just like watching TV, not getting any subtle, not even subtle joke. His name was Ugly, and I never picked up on that. So let me go back to my notes here. Abu Dhabi do. Abu Dhabi do. I mean, that was good enough to swing around to. Listen, let's get into... Let's get into our voicemail. Oh, voicemail. I got this. I'm ready. Don't worry. And here's my number. On the back line, 802-277-BEC. That's 802-277-2325. What if my grandma's original name wasn't Marthea, but it was actually Ugo? And then that's right. That's going to be embarrassing that I brought that up. That would be so bad if I was making fun of this name, just hammering on it. And then you're like, that's my grandma's name and my mom's name, but somebody legally changed it. Thanks. Honestly, I was thinking more about that Flintstone stuff again with the real caveman. I mean, picture it. They go to a job where they dig rocks.
[11:00]And you're like, what? The Flintstone guys, all they do is they work and they dig rocks. Okay? And you're like, well, that doesn't make any sense. How many rocks do they possibly need? Well, the answer is everything. Everything in their life is made out of a rock. So that makes sense that they need to dig those rocks. Their car is made out of a rock. The country, Iran. Guess where it's right by? Iraq. Iraq. All right. Let's get into the voicemail here. The wise man built his house upon Iraq. Hey, Becker. Name of the city. Oh. Following up on Aaron's story about getting bit by a dog. In college, I had a roommate who once got bit by a monkey. What? What? He had to get the tetanus shot in the stomach. His dad, who was a doctor, called me to make sure I would keep an eye on him if any kind of funny behavior was happening. So my question is for Aaron. Yeah. Did Aaron's wife at Gmail have to do any kind of follow-up to make sure that you are not behaving any more strangely or anything like that? More strangely than normal. Listen. Monitoring. Monitoring. Now, is there a chance that they did the, I got bit by a monkey, and that's why your STD test turned up like that to your wife bit?
[12:03]You know what I mean? Like, listen, it wasn't the Peloton. I got bit by a monkey. Okay? Oh, you think it was my two-week work vacation I took in Thailand? That's where the conference was. I had to go. And I told you, I got bit by a monkey. I tried to get to the doctor, and the doctor just said she was going to have to wake me every hour, but that doesn't work in your 40s. So I was thinking about this, though, Aaron, because, you know, rabies, you know what the death rate is with rabies. It's 100%. If you get too far, it's 100%. Nobody's ever, there's been one person that survived rabies. He was put in a coma for nine months. Oh, wow. Okay? The only way you could- How do you know this? How do you know this stat? What? How do you know this stat? Because I teach about viruses. Okay. Oh, yeah. Middle school kids want to hear, they want to hear about people dying of rabies that I am trying to deliver. Is rabies a virus? Karaoke club, by the way, we got a third person last week, so. Oh. In your face, everybody. Okay? Exponential growth. 50% more people. Yeah, yeah.
[13:00]Guys, at this rate, we're to the moon. One up, one on deck, one in the hole. And I was mad because it means I didn't get to sing as much. I was like, fine, you can do a song. This is better with two kids. That's whatever. But did I tell you what song the kid did? He came in and did Freak on a Leash. Oh. And I was like- What? What? What? What? And he goes, oh, yeah, it's a song. And I go, yeah, I know what Freak on a Leash is. Excuse me. Okay? I was there for the 90s. Now, listen. Your roommate gets bit by a monkey. Okay? Needs shots in his stomach. Tells you to be aware of anything strange. Your roommate's dad tells you to be aware. Your roommate's dad calls you and says, be aware. Like, what interaction did you all have with your roommate's parents? Like, if your roommate's parents talked to you, you knew some shit was going down, right? Like, when you're in college, if your roommate's parents talked to you, your roommate's parents got involved enough to call you the roommate. You're like, well, now I know, like, something serious, right? Is it true that your room is haunted because your computer monitor constantly turns off
[14:01]when you're sitting at it when he walks in? Is it true that your door automatically locks and you don't know what you can do about it? And that you need to have Vaseline on your desk for your... I don't know. You guys get the joke. I'm jacking off in there. What was your interaction when you had two freshman year roommates that both... I don't know if either one of them made it a year. Did you ever interact with their parents when they were taking a different route in that first year? Yeah, definitely. I mean, famously, I had two roommates my freshman year, one who dropped out twice before fall break. And that roommate's parents definitely at one point, like, you know, checked in with me at some point when he was dropping out. Like, hey, keep an eye on Jeremy. The other roommate who moved in later never met his parents, not one second. Never. I like the idea. They're like, hey, listen, we need somebody to watch our son. He's just having a tough time, this independence. Could you help him out? You know, maybe help him just with his math or science or whatever. What's your major exactly?
[15:01]I'm a Bachelor of Music and Voice Performance. Oh, my God. He's going to drop out. Oh, no. Terrible. We did. How about you, Matt? Did you ever have interactions with your freshman year roommates' parents? No, I too had two roommates my freshman year. That's right. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. One made it so about Halloween. So past fall break and then another one came in and didn't make it to spring break. How sweet is that week, though, Matt, when they leave and there's nobody to fill in so you're just by yourself in a full room? Right? Just great. I would be like, you would see me, I would just have like half full blue Gatorades in there and be like, oh. It's like the fire in that beat suite, right, Rob? I'd be like, this is land internet. It is hotsex.com is coming in faster than ever before. Would you write like an internet? like a little message on your whiteboard outside your door saying occupied or something like that i put a hair tie on i think we all had there was always one roommate that or that anybody had or
[16:04]maybe i didn't meet a roommate but somebody next door whose parents were always there that maybe they lived somewhat close and the mom was or the mom was always coming on the weekends just to drop off laundry or drop off cookies something so my sophomore year roommate his mom was that person and a great person so it wasn't a bother to have him around or anything so you had a lot of interaction i didn't have like a phone number or anything but i had a lot of interaction if i saw them on the street today i'd you know be able to say hi and have a conversation kind of a thing but and what you realize is you're like that mom has been in your bedroom a number of times like you know what i mean like that's a weird thing about college is that people are just hanging out like you'll wake up and somebody will just be in your bedroom like a stranger like any any other section of your life you'd wake up go jesus christ there's somebody in my fucking bedroom you guys worried about getting bit by a monkey that's really high on my list i don't know if i've ever been bitten by an exotic animal i wish the caller would have told us a little bit more context like where where did that where were they hanging out with a monkey yeah yeah where was the bite
[17:02]yeah where was the bite where was the bite i didn't even think of the stomach i thought he said no he got a shot in the stomach oh the rabies shot is a giant needle that you put in your stomach that's also part of my oh that's also part of my deal and so people if you get if you find a bat flying in your bed in your bedroom you have to go in and get the rabies vaccine and it's like this big scary painful thing i don't think so yeah look away look it up i bet people get bit by bats all the time don't even know it they don't die what russell i've never seen no way get this upset this quick the idea that i've been bit by a bat gives me chills to the bone don't you think you probably have to the bone you think no i know i have not been bitten by a bat russell that would be scary you wouldn't you might not know it russell i have been finding things by doing clicks and whistles no no that's whales aaron that was a
[18:02]dog bite have you guys been bitten before by anything or not no i can't think of the first one i hesitate to tell you how many times my ferret bit me it was a lot but to be fair my fingers look like ferret treats like they were the same shape and then they've been bitten by like a kid at work but that's not little worms yeah it's uh it's uh i i i think anytime you're bitten by a wild animal it's absolutely terrifying it's you can't how is it aaron what is the what happened with your story now did you i mean it's intercalated it's fine it's it's totally fine oh that dog is dead yeah i will say the the dog no no the dog owner left me a nice note in the mailbox oh thanks don't euthanize my dog i a gift a gift card to a local restaurant which i will be using so i gotta give i gotta get props and what's the payoff come on i'm not gonna say this okay aaron aaron i i'm just gonna say a
[19:00]number guys let's decide a number aaron has to say over under okay i gotta say 53 i gotta see if it's over or under 53 i was gonna say it's either 25 or 40 25 there's no way it's over 50 okay so let's not over should we say 28 no 20 32 how about that over i think it's i think it's 50 on the also over over 53 also yeah aaron does live in the bay area things are more expensive out there aaron is aaron is pulling scams you guys seen the price of eggs lately yeah it was it was 100 she left me a gift card for 100 that is that is totally a don't a don't euthanize my dog please right that's all that is and then like a nice note and you could spend that you'd be like hey listen that meal god damn i went to ruth's chris's steakhouse it was so good i want to thank you so much for that i am gonna have to euthanize your dog still because i talked to my friends about rabies and it's really scary so aaron's gonna go i've got a child i gotta think about my child you're dangerous dog aaron's gonna
[20:04]daggle his foot in front of that dog like a fishing lure again next that dangerous dog you keep locked up in that nice fence that you've got yeah that i've walked inside on my own yeah i know your dog was alarmed by my hadeki matt suey jersey but please no i will not be i will not be requesting the dogs you thought it's i'm fine it was not a turn out to be not that big a deal all right now listen let's get into rolling going but before we do i gotta ask you russell what the fuck is going on you're setting up you totally changed it's time for you look like rolling go i mean you look like you've seen a ghost the must be lighting is like the most interesting thing i've ever seen is the beautiful video It's like you might be living in a different place. It's like living in the same place, but I am set up in the downstairs, the basement of my house today. You got kicked out of your normal spot? I've been in that basement. I know that basement. Matt's like, Matt's giving an annoying smile. He's like, hmm, kicked out of the basement.
[21:00]Nice. Yeah. You put a plan down there? Your relationship is progressing so fast, Russell. You're already kicked out of the basement. So I'll bring you guys up to speed. I'm kind of in an interim period where, as you guys know, I've procured a new roommate. And coming up over the next few weeks, the roommate and I will be- He puts the lotion in the basket. We will be moving to a different place. But there was an interim two-week period where this new roommate moved into my house. Oh, my God. She's there with a tiny table? Because my roommate, her lease expired. So there's a two-week period where we are navigating, living together in my old house that I've been in for 19 years. How's that working out? What are the highlights? The fuzzy things stay on the toilet. Do not move these. Did she find that box that the pleasure principal left when he moved out? Did she find that? The pleasure principal called me. Did I tell you guys that? I'm not supposed to say that. I guess. Yes, the pleasure principal picked up the phone and called me on the phone.
[22:00]I had a wonderful conversation with him this week. But let's get back to Russell. No, that's all I got. I'm recording in the basement. What do you want to know? Russell's like, yes, my toilet seats are the padded ones that are soft. Okay? And that's how I like it. And they're extra padded. They're really thick. They're like an airplane neck pillow. They're like an airplane neck pillow. You guys want me to give you four observations for you to ruminate on and comment on? Let me think. Do I want to talk about this for the rest of the episode? Guess what? Jeff Buckley album. It's fine. Let's talk about this, Russell. This is all I want to talk about. All right. The first thing I've realized is I am not a cleaner. I'm not a cleaner. I don't clean stuff. I don't scrub stuff down. I'm not like a spick and span person. My roommate is an aggressive cleaner. They do it. It almost feels like a therapeutic thing. If they see something, they go for it. Now, Russell, maybe, because this is the case with my wife, they actually like to clean. Okay? And they like doing the dishes and they like doing the laundry. Okay?
[23:00]They won't tell you that, but they like it. So sometimes you just got to let them do it. This is a familiar thing to you, Rob. The one thing I said is when this roommate came in, I didn't want to be criticized for stuff. You guys get it? Like, you don't want to be criticized for the way you do things or something like that. Hey, Russell, good luck with that. So the way I look at this, we made a lot of credit. The way they do their intense cleaning, they wait for me to go to work and then they do it. So I'm not around to be like, damn, they're going to town on this stove and I feel bad that they're doing it. So this roommate has done a great job of finding a time when they know I'm not going to be bothered. That I feel like they're... Doing stuff that I should be doing. Well, I think the first time you yelled at them for walking in between you and your video game, they probably learned that they should not be cleaning while you're there. Well, if she walks in front of this podcast, we're going to hear the second time there's been... Oh, no. Oh, God.
[24:00]Somebody's listening to you? Oh, what a disaster. The move is going very nice and we're very happy. So that was the first observation. You guys, as your spouse or as your partner, someone who is more cleanly than you, are they constantly redoing? Not redoing what you're doing, but are they kind of more on top of that than you are? Yeah, it's just a different definition of cleanliness, I feel. It's just that I look at a thing and say, well, that looks clean to me. And she looks at the thing and is like, that's so messy. It's just like it's a different definition. And I've learned. I'm getting there. I'm learning to recognize the signs when she would think something is less clean than I think it is. This is why guys, when Bill Clinton was like, well, it depends. Like the definition of is. Like, did I have sex with that woman? And all guys were like, mm-hmm, that actually makes sense to me. That's a good argument. Like Aaron's idea of like, well, it's just a different definition of clean. Yeah, that means Aaron has gotten yelled at this week probably for something. No, I never get yelled at. No, it was never that. It's just like, oh, I thought the thing was clean and now she's cleaning it, you know? Jenny will redo the dishes after I do them. By the way, they're going into a washing machine.
[25:01]They are getting washed and she redoes them and then said to me, I don't want you to do the dishes. So guess what I did? I didn't do the dishes. It took three days and then she was mad at me for never doing the dishes. I was like, I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. Like, that's the way. Kobiashimaru, dude. How about you, Matt? Who rules the roost when it comes to cleaning in your place? Well, I think eventually when you live together with somebody for so long, you end up kind of, duties end up getting split or you kind of have, you know, your lane, their lane. And, you know, I'd say I'm very much more of like a get the dishes into the dishwasher. Sarah maybe gets them out. Sarah's much better about clutter than I am. I tend to pile or, you know, move and shift and condense things instead of putting them away. Okay. Does that make sense? There's definitely been a comment or two on piles that I have been. Like, you are a pile of shit. Get up and help me clean this place. No, pile of shit too. You are too. He's like, I'm sorry. I will say this. Every two weeks, 120 bucks, Norma comes over to our house for about two to three hours.
[26:03]Yeah. And just, we have, we have Norma come over. She's the cleaner, cleans the house. Yeah. And it might, it is the best money we spend as a couple. Make sure that things are going, you know, smoothly around the house. So I don't know. I would consider that Russell. Just give her. Yeah. I would consider that too. Give her 120 bucks. She'll be happy to clean when you know, when she knows that you're paying her and then do what I do with cash. When I give it to Jenny, I go like this. I go, I hand it out. And then when she tries to grab it, I pull it away and I go, there's a little gift from daddy. There may have been a cash payment the other day for cleaning supplies. The roommate came back. I came back with a plethora of cleaning supplies and I felt like it was my responsibility. So I, there was a cash payment involved. Yes. I love that. It's like, but it's like, Oh, and Hey, guess what? I bought you a little uniform that you can wear too. So you don't have to get your clothes dirty. Just put this on. The other thing that this new roommate has done that I have never done.
[27:02]I went to the first day that their new roommate was here. We got this, their computer all set up. They, they're a work from home person. We got everything set up. They were good to go. And I'm not even out of the house for 10 minutes. And I get a text. I get a text saying the neighborhood kid came over and wants to mow your lawn. I hired him to do it. I'm like, okay, great. My initial, my initial line of thinking is like, I don't open the door for anyone. Like, like I don't go like the doorbell rings. I don't go get that. I don't want to interrupt you, Russell, but I just want to say one of the best things we ever did was just disconnect our doorbell. You know, we just, just disconnected. So anybody tries to put, I mean, then you're just, you don't even threaten to be. Seems like it should be illegal. Honestly, that seems to me like you should get arrested for that. I don't know why. But it makes sense in my head. The best thing about it though, is it actually has turned out to be a great decision. So the neighborhood kid came over. He's like, Hey, can I mow the lawn? And my, my yard's a mess. Like I've got weeds growing everywhere. It's one of the eyesores in the neighborhood. There's no question about it. And so the kid's like, Hey, I can do this stuff.
[28:00]So I come back and he, he does a great job the first day. And so I, he comes over and we're start talking. I'm like, I want you to work on this, this, this. And I asked him, well, you know, what, how do you want to get paid? Like, do we want to do hourly? And he goes, why? I'd rather get paid by the project. And I'm like, what's your estimate? And he, he was like, well, I'm not very good at, at pricing. He's, you know, like 13 year, 14 year old kid. Yeah. And so I'm like, okay, we'll just do this. I'll treat you fairly. We'll figure it out as you go. The kid's done an amazing job. It's the best, the best move I've ever made was letting the roommate answer the door, hire the kid, do the yard work. He did the yard work that I would have fretted over for weeks and weeks and hated doing. And the kid's knocking it out of the park. I it's. It's been a fantastic move. Russell, the method that, the method that you guys settled on where you have five, $1 bills out. And every time he makes a mistake, you pull $1 away that you're not going to pay him. That method is working out well for you. The third thing I've learned about having had, having a roommate over at, at my old house is I'm starting to learn that when I decide to work super late, it might actually
[29:03]impact other people. I'd never really thought about that. And I'm sure now, Russell, let me tell you, I'm sure that you found this out by simply having a conversation. And asking instead of doing what you did every night for the last 15 years, not the choice about it and coming home with somebody who's very mad for some reason. What does work super late mean? Does that mean not come home for dinner or does it mean come home and have dinner and then work after dinner late into the night? What's what do you mean by not come home for not come home for dinner? Oh yeah. That one. Yeah. That's very good at say, Hey, what do you guys think? Is it fair to just give someone a heads up and say, Hey, I'm going to be working late. I won't be home. As long as you give them a heads up. Is that cool? Or do you have to be. Make an effort to get home. How often are we talking here? Yeah. It feels like you need to at least have a couple days where you will, you will be home, you know, every Tuesday, two or more than two, more than two, but like, you know, Hey, every Tuesday is taco Tuesday and every Thursday we go out to dinner and happy hour or whatever,
[30:04]you know, kind of a thing. So, you know, there's gotta be, and then she can get in the rhythm of knowing like, well, Hey, Mondays and Wednesdays, Russell's probably not going to be home. Right. I mean, it's, it's just about getting into rhythm and setting expectations. And some couples actually, some spouses really like it when the one works late. So I actually wouldn't worry about it too much because they think it's just great because they could do whatever they want. Nobody tells them what to do. I just kind of figured if I stay away longer, they'll just do more cleaning on, on, on, you know, wait, what? You gotta delete that. Yeah. No. But I mean, and it might be a problem too, is, is this new roommate familiar with your little. You know, the micro area of your, of where your house is, you know, so like, or is it kind of far away from other friends and things as well? The roommate actually has a friend that lives about, I'd say a 10 minute walk away, a couple blocks away. Matt actually would be about on 73rd and Humboldt, Matt, you know, where that's right
[31:02]up against the wall there against the wall. Okay. And so she's actually running right by the, right by the bridge that goes over 35, right back behind the nature center. If you know where that's at too, you know, if you go up to, I think it's Fremont, there's a back door into the back door. I mean, guys, this isn't even fun anymore. Like this is, this is abusive. I'm actually enjoying it myself. Actually the roommate knew tonight that I was doing a podcast. So I came home late again and I got the text heads up saying, Hey, I'm going over to 73rd and Humboldt tonight. So they're not even here right now. So I could have just in theory done it by the recording upstairs. Very nice. Well, so listen, Russell, that explains why you look like you put the wrong bulb in your mirror bathroom. Like, you know, like everybody does that they're like, oh, I like these blue bulbs and you put them in and you look like a zombie. Like Jesus Christ, I got to change this. I got Rob. You don't have to be a jerk and bring up the light bulb in the bathroom situation. We've already had some issues with that.
[32:00]So rolling, go on, Matt. How's it going with you? Blue bulbs hurt. It's a medical issue. I told you I was changing a light bulb and I slipped and that's how it went up there. I don't get what you don't get. Now get me to the hospital, please. We've definitely. We've definitely may have reached a point this week where all three light bulbs in the bathroom were out and it would be my fault. And it admittedly was my fault. Yeah. Whose fault would it be? You've been living there for 20 years. You will probably start just stocking up some stocking up some of this stuff. You know, like you just need to have like at least a half a dozen light bulbs on hand. I think she might have been suspicious because you said, well, I guess you'll just have to go to the bathroom with the door open. I don't know why the light bulbs in the bathroom are out. I guess you have to go to the bathroom with the door open. I don't know. It seems safe. Good, Russell. It's going well. No, no, no. By the way, that was my rolling going. That's my rolling going. By the way, I brought that up. Right there. That was me. So. That was your. That was your. I get to say, I get to say, man, rolling going. I was just going with you.
[33:00]Okay. Yeah. Don't you have a different one, Russell? I do. But we can go whatever way you want to go around. Okay. I got, I got to hang out with some of our listeners this past weekend as I went back down to Olyville for college. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have never been to a college reunion time, and I I. I don't know if, you know, if either of you guys have been back to a reunion for St. Olaf. Twice. Twice. It's the shittiest time of year for me. It's like June. It's like early June. I can't get back because of school. I've been out of the state so much. I've never been to a St. Olaf reunion, and I want to go very badly. It's. So I think I've been. So this was twenty for me. I think I've been to five, ten. I think every five years we go because this group of listeners. Right. are loyalists to the podcast. They like to go. I love it. It's fun. But they had this kind of everything set up in the middle of campus where they had a couple like pop-up bars.
[34:00]And then what I thought would be the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life and just horrible and I wouldn't even take part with it ended up being one of the most fun things that I've ever done. And I can't believe that it's not more popular than it is. Okay, now Matt, if you say that you hopped into the port-a-potty and waited, okay, if that's the activity, I'll be shocked. I'll be shocked if that's how you describe hiding in port-a-potties. Matt, remember what Rob said. That is not what I did. If you come in someone over that port-a-potty water, there's no consequences. I feel like that's taking some liberties with even what Rob said. What? Rob didn't say no consequences. No pregnancy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, STDs are just like a bat. That's like a warm metal. All we needed for Russell to loosen up a little bit was get down to the basement. Now he's just flying around with the dirty jokes. I told you
[35:00]I didn't get that disease from the woman in the port-a-potty. I got bit by a monkey. Would you like to buy a monkey? Yeah. Hey, don't use that port-a-potty. It's got a flash. I think that the technical term is a silent disco. No. I've seen it. I've never done it. I've never seen it. No, and essentially they hand you earphones, right? And so like what Rob's got right now and literally they had three DJs. So they had like a 60s and 70s, 80s and 90s and then like now, right? And so it was like the 60s and 70s were the, I don't know if it's exactly, but like the red booth, the 80s and 90s were the blue booth and the now booth was like green or something. And then you could flip between which song it was. And so then we were one of the first people to, you know, we were there and this guy just, he just shoves earphones into our hands and is like, here you go, try this, you know? And there was not many people. I'm like, oh my God. So then we're waiting in line for beer. And of course you put the headphones on and you're like, oh, there's some good songs here. And then it starts.
[36:00]And so then all of a sudden you go and you hear nothing but the music, right? So you think you are in the loudest thing ever. And so of course you start dancing. Well, then you take your earphones off and it's just people talking. But by the end of the night, everybody was out in the dance. And all of a sudden you're like, oh, you know, go to green, go to green. It's a great song on green. Oh no, everybody's red. And it turned, it was the greatest thing ever. And by the end of the night, they like shut down one booth and they shut down the second booth and it was just one booth remaining. And so then the whole, everybody's listening to the same thing. And so it was, it was awesome. Sometimes you're on the floor, you get your headphones on and not everyone is listening to the same song, but you're all jamming out. Right. And like, you just don't care. Yeah. Then you like see what everybody else is going crazy about. So then you flip it off. You flip over and you're like, oh yeah, that's sad. I've actually got this. Matt, do you want to flip over? Yeah. I'm flipping over to green. Okay, let's flip over. Let's just flip over to green and there's a little space there that might get or might not get edited out.
[37:00]We'll see. They'll see how long this flip takes. Flip it over to green. Wow. You guys got to get to green. Get on green. Yeah, man, John. Wow. You got to be here for this. Hey, this one actually has four different colors. You want to try the other two? Hey, Rob, you guys got to flip over to blue. There's this new hit song. It's called, It's called Euthanasia. Check it out. No, you flip over to blue and of course you, you know, I mean, what other would be over at blue? So I, again, I think you guys know me. I don't like to fall for the gimmicky things too much. It's not my, it's not really my, what I go for. This was, to me, it was about as gimmicky as you get and it was awesome. So much like Russell doesn't answer the front door, maybe I got to get into some of these gimmicky things a little bit more. New things. Yeah. Matt, can I ask you this question? Was it awkward bumping and grinding with your wife knowing that it was silent and everybody's watching you bump and grind
[38:00]in the absolute silence? There was no, there was no spouses there, Rob. You know what I mean? All right. You don't bring your spouse to a college reunion, do you? No way. Nice. So you're bumping and grinding with like Kristen. Yes, fuck yeah. Okay, you're at the bar. She's super drunk and you're like, you know what I mean? The funny thing was is that they're in the, they got a new set of dorms. Oh, is she there? And it's called like New Hall or something and it's awesome. But people brought like their kids, you know, and it's like, you don't feel bad for it, but like people's kids are screaming at 6 a.m. and stuff, so. You're trying to bump and grind with your headphones on out on the yard. Let's just say there was one couple that was bumping and grinding and if you took your headphones off, it was awkward. People bring their kids. Like there's only so many times you get to go back and like relive, relive your youth. Right. And that's one of them. And like for people that bring kids there, I'm out. That's tough. It was a thumbs down. That's one of the least surprising things I've ever heard you say in my life.
[39:01]Now, it would be weird though if you did take off your headphones and like people behind you are bumping and grinding. You're like, wait. Go to the no headphone channel. You got to hear what I hear. Hey, this is your cousin, Barry. You know that sound of you having sex with your wife that you've been looking for? I got it. I picked up a lady at the cafe. It's God. Well, oh my God. Rob, Roland going. How's it going with you? I was talking to a teacher. I want to see what you guys think about this. I was talking to a teacher who had to go to school and then was going to go on like a three day vacation. Right. So they're going to bring their bag to school. Just, it's just a drive, but you got to go from school to catch a train and all that. They were wondering about bringing a sex toy. Do you, knowing that you have a three day weekend. Okay. And you need a sex toy. Oh yeah. I'm going to do it acoustically. Please get out of here. This is 2023. Okay. AI. You think with AI going on out there, I'm just going to be like,
[40:00]oh, let me just do this. Lots of C batteries. Need a second bag just for the C batteries. D's man, D's. D batteries for the D batteries. So what would you guys say? They, what would you guys say? Would you bring sex toys into work knowing that you had to catch a flight later and have it in your bag? Seems like a bad idea. It seems like not something one should do. It seems like a horrible idea, but I mean, the only way to get it, around is just to like wrap that thing up as tight as possible. Right. All batteries got to be removed too. Yeah. That's the name of my sex toy, Matt. I know I was trying to get, I was trying to, is there anything say like, let's be sex positive here. Like that's a perfectly fine version of self-care. Like why shouldn't someone carry that with them? I think, I think if a teacher's bag blew open and their sex toys flew out in the middle of class, I don't think you'd talk about that as a student for the rest of your life. Rob, what if it was the Wu-Tang red, hot poker that came out though? Oh no. Russell in the basement.
[41:00]This is a, this is a new level to our podcast. Russell in the basement. I mean, it does. And the angle of his camera too, it does look like I'm in a hole in his basement. I've got this brand new, trying to put a chicken lemonade truly, which is really, it's. Oh, pineapple. That's the swinger thing, isn't it? Yes. Yes. Pineapple in the grocery cart. But in all, in all, I mean, don't, if you had to do that, if you had to bring something of that nature into the school, wouldn't, wouldn't it be like in three different bags that had four different zippers on them? And just, so you would just wouldn't come across any situation where somebody happened to just look in your backpack or whatever. Yeah. That'd be about the only way to do it. You've got to take every, every precautionary step to make sure no one ever, no one ever is aware. Right. It's just, it's just in a clear, like grocery bag. It's like, Oh, you go into a stadium, but like with all those big beer bags, it's just in the, it's just on the side where the, you know, where your water bottle goes, just slid right into the, the side there. So, Oh, you bring in an eggplant on, Oh, nevermind. Forget about it.
[42:00]Yeah. Okay. So that was my rolling good. I don't know. I just wanted some advice. Sex toy to work yesterday. So the answer I'm getting from you guys is a maybe, maybe as long as it's, as long as it's not, it's a great, it's a great operation. It's like a great, yeah. Rolling, going Rosie, how's it going with you? Oh, it's going great. Oh, my phone must be vibrating. My phone's in my bag. That's what vibrates. Just wait. Your phone right here goes like this. It's going great. That's our first week back from, we went to Hawaii last week and I had to, Russell mentioned that I'm wearing a safari hat. And the reason that I'm wearing the safari hat is that I didn't want to forget to tell this story in my, my rolling gun. So this is my, this is my new hat. I finally, and I don't know, I don't know, Rob, how would you describe the hat that I'm wearing this evening? It's like, it's like friend's dad that you go hiking with and you realize you did not want to go hiking with them. Like if a friend's dad showed up with that hat, you'd be like, I'm fucked. We're hiking forever today. Tall, tall socks, hiking boots. Like, it doesn't let you stop for water.
[43:00]It's got this strappy Teva sandals or whatever that go around, you know, but he's got socks on with them. There's a string that goes on it that like, if you want to, if you want to let it hang while you're sitting in like a camping chair for a little bit, it can hang off the back. You know, back in, back in the 1900s, he probably had a video camera around, but like strapped around his neck, you know, so that he could just video things. But he was always the one like videoing awkwardly the, you know, the kids like, why are you constantly, videoing those people? It's kind of like a safari slash fishing hat for someone who's going to be out in the sun there. They got to be covered up. It looks like a friend's, it looks like a friend's dad. That would be like, okay, remember guys, no sugar in the house. Okay. We're trying to do no sugar. And then you'd go in the bathroom and under the sink would just be tons of pornographic pornographic magazines. And you're like, well, this doesn't make sense to me, Rob. I thought we weren't going to talk about what my roommate found under the sink. I always wondered that. I was like, why? I was like, why are these porno magazines in a bathroom? Like, this is what we're combining now. You know what I mean? Like I, why else would they, I mean,
[44:00]I don't know. That's a place where like you could go and no one's going to be like, Oh, Hey, what's going on in there? You'd be like, Oh, I'm pooping again. I don't know. You'll notice that the hat has a no flap of poop in your hand. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I just think it's like a weird thing to be like, time to go to the bathroom. Also time to get really turned on. You know what I mean? Like that is a weird, that's a very weird combination. If you did that and then also ate a giant juicy burger, you'd be like, yep. Go to the bathroom, eating a big juicy burger, looking at pornography. It's the perfect room. Like it's just weird. You know what? We're 147 episodes in since episode one. We've said this is a no kink shame show. And so now you're, you're kink shaming right now. I think. It's true. So I bought this hat because I finally, you know, you guys know I'm bald. I don't have any hair. So I always wear a hat if we go anywhere, but I finally decided, well, if I'm going to be at the pool all summer, I'm going to be on the beach. I might go out, you know, paddle boarding. I'm going to get a hat that covers my entire head, front to back and my neck and my ears, the whole thing. And then it also has this hat. This guy's, this hat's got a lot of stuff.
[45:00]It has, has a special stash pocket in the top of the hat. So it's got this very nice stash pocket. We were in Hawaii and I went, I tried to go body surfing, which I am not good at, but I enjoyed it anyway. Is anybody, is anybody good at body surfing? Does that really work? Body boarding. Yeah. I mean, I tried to go body boarding. It turns out you need flippers. If you're going to do a flip reel, you have to have them. Yeah. You got to have flippers. So like doing it from, from the shore, you can like, you can take a wave into the shore, but if you go out paddling the waves at all, you can't catch a wave. Can I ask you this Aaron, at any time when you had the board, just for a second, where you're like, I might try to do a 360 out there. Like I might try to do a spin, you know what I mean? Like a spin on the board. So, so the thing is, so the, the local kids, they do the thing where they run from shore straight at the waves and ramp up off the wave and do backflips and shit like into like they, it's like, yeah. And I thought for one minute about trying that and like, that's not, that's not me. So I mostly, you're too old. You're too old. When you're covering from a dog bite, there's, yeah, that wasn't gonna, yeah. I mean, I thought about it,
[46:00]but I watched these kids, man. And they like, they, they do some crazy stuff. That's not for me. Blood is just pouring out of your ankle in the ocean. They're like, shit, we don't want to swim by you. Well, it's like, you know, it's like, if I go, it's like my, it's like, oh, you know, we were at the pool all morning or the beach all morning. And then like, Wallace is going to like watch a movie for a couple hours to relax. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to go down to the beach. And like, what if I break my collarbone? And it's like Tuesday of a six day vacation. Like, that's not a good idea. You seem Aaron, like that you still have like a youthful enthusiasm though, to try stuff like that. True. Yeah. True. I thought about it. I, yeah, I thought about it, but I, I didn't go for the flips. I just went in and like rode some small waves. Like I didn't go all the way. Russell, let me get this straight. You're not boogie boarding on vacation. Come on, Russell. No way. Get a boogie board out there. The boogie board is fun. And also it's like fun. You can pedal out. Come on, Russell. Let's go boogie boarding. You're just hanging out. Maybe you see a turtle. It's beautiful. What are you? You're seeing a turtle. Sorry, Rob. I'm on the red channel.
[47:00]Listen to radio head on the beach. Not having any fun. You can see turtles out there all the time. I see turtles. They just like, they just come swim up right next to you sometimes. But I did learn that if the seals come in, if a monk seal comes in, they can be aggressive. So when the monk seal comes into the Harbor, you got to get out of the way. Cause the monk seals will fuck you up. I learned that. And the other thing is he can solve cases that other people wouldn't even notice because he has, he thinks differently. It's a monk. It's a monk seal on USA. Let's say, listen, it was a hit Tony Shalhoub. If we're doing like mid tier cable TV show jokes, we've got to shut this shit down. Oh, mid tier. Mid tier. Monk? I'm not relitigating this from last time. I thought it was cause he'd been, he'd been kissed by a rose. I don't know. Monk was not mid tier. Okay. Okay, fine. You don't like that joke? Listen, I got another one. Let's try it. So I finished. No, Aaron, excuse me. Guess what? Hans Blix part two. Look out. Oh,
[48:00]stamp on an envelope. Well, that was that monk seal. That's what he got. That's what you got interrupted for. Yeah, that's it. That was the one he said. Okay. You know what? Let's see if this, this story is better than a monk. I get done. It's a, it's a decent story. I mean, and now it's going to take way longer than it deserves. This is, I don't done finish my boogie boarding session, which is not that successful. But the thing is you can, you can always like at the very end, you can at least ride a wave into the shore, but it's a very sandy, uh, bottom. And you get kind of get tossed around when you land. So I'm like, my pockets in my board shirts are full of sand, just pockets full of sand. So I walk back up to the shore and I go pick up my hat and my, and my phone and my stuff. And I try to put my phone in the stash pocket of my hat. And it seems like it won't fit. And I'm really frustrated. Like, man, I've got this new hat. Should I have a stash pocket where I can fit the phone in?
[49:01]Like that's not working. I'm going to the car. I don't want to put the, you know, phone in my pocket where there's like sand all in my, uh, board shorts. So I put the phone on the, I put my phone on the roof of, of the car. No. And it, it's a hatchback. I opened the hatch of the car and I don't know what the hell, I don't even know how this is possible. But I hear like this crunch sound and I look and my phone has wedged itself in the, in the crack of the hatchback of the car. And then I'm like, okay, well the phone's kind of wedged in there. If I like just pull the phone, the door down a little bit, then maybe it's going to pull down here. Another crunch. And I have completely fucked up my phone. Yes. Yes. It's like, it's Wednesday of, of vacation where it's not over until Saturday. And my phone is completely cracked top to bottom. I've completely fucked up my phone. There's nowhere I'd rather go on vacation than a phone store. Every time I've been in a phone store, it's been such a pleasant experience.
[50:00]I was able to find some packing tape at the drugstore, which I walked to the drugstore in the pouring rain. And I think at least, at least if I'm walking to the drugstore in the pouring rain to get some packing tape to fix my broken phone, maybe I can get a Stein lager because that was my favorite beer in Hawaii. This is a New Zealand lager. It's basically Heineken, but I think it's better. How are you taping the phone back together? Isn't it destroyed? No, it worked. It's still, it made it. I got the packing tape phone. I was able to keep the phone alive through the end of the trip. That's a new phone once I got home. So, but, and then addendum, the phone actually, I just, I hadn't actually figured out how the stash pocket works in the, in the hat. Like the phone could have been in the hat. How complicated could it be? I don't get why. Yeah. I can't figure out the fucking hat. The story relates to the hat. Yeah. You managed 13 people, Aaron. Yeah, I know. I couldn't get the phone. Upper middle management. Have you ever heard, have you ever heard somebody tell a story and have it end with, well, I finally figured out how to put a phone in my hat.
[51:02]What? How is that the crux of the story is that a phone goes in your hat? So Aaron's hat is very good and it holds a phone, but not that time when he crunched it. It's a great hat. You know what though? I don't know. I think Matt wears a lot of baseball hats. I used to wear a baseball hat almost every day up until the age of about 25. And now I never wear baseball hats. Never. Are you guys normal hat wearers? I wear a lot of baseball hats. I can see Matt wearing hats a lot. I'm bald. I have to wear a hat all the time. Have you ever seen me in a hat before? I don't think so. No, you never will. I almost never wear hats. What size head do you have Rob? Eight. Are you an eight? I have no idea. It's just big. I, if you get those snap ones, it's like the last one, maybe like, I'm usually one or two. There's some hats that don't like low price. I'm a seven and five eighths. That's what size head I have. And that's pretty big for, you know, most normal, but I think you, I think you're a couple of sizes bigger than I am even, but yeah,
[52:00]it's hard. Well, you know, on, on the same old football team, we had to have a helmet buddy who would give you a helmet. If you needed one, if you forgot to bring one, right. So we need to know who had our size. Well, there's one guy on the team who was a fucking freak. He had a huge fucking head. And we would always say how big, how big this guy's head was. I mean, he is a huge lurch head, like just giant. Well, guess who I was fucking helmet buddies with? Lurch head? Lurch head. Yeah. It was me and lurch head. It was crazy. I was like, Jesus, this guy's head is huge. We'd make fun of him. And then he's my helmet buddy. Depressing. All right, listen, let's get into the album. When you're making fun of people over a physical deficiency, and then you realize you also have that. Yeah. It's not a good moment. Oh, is this a music podcast? Oh my God. His balls are so gray. You know, yeah. It turns out we're balls buddies. I didn't know that changed as you aged. We're jockstrap buddies. We both have gray balls. Russell, if you want to, Russell, if you want to see how being married is so wonderful, just, I just want you to keep in mind that Aaron kid was watching movies.
[53:01]The wife is in the hotel and Aaron's like, I'm going to go boogie boarded. Goodbye. It was dad time. It was my dad time. It was just like two hours. It was fine. Okay. Got my phone in my hat. I'm out of here, sweetie. See you later. Okay. Goodbye. Like not really listening. All right. Listen, let's talk about Jeff Buckley and grace. So basically here's the deal. Jeff Buckley. He was a studio musician for a long time. His dad was a rather famous, I guess a musician and he was a backup guitarist. So he's playing all these different things in California or whatever. And he's like kind of just playing backup for, for different albums. He plays at a New York tribute to his dad as a musician and he closes the show and he gets noticed. It literally happens where he gets noticed. And they asked him to come play at some of these cafes and like the Lower East side and stuff. And so he gets a bigger and bigger following, including like Clive Davis is coming in. All these people are coming in to hear him sing. Musicians absolutely love Jeff Buckley.
[54:01]He goes from this basic, like, like getting found plucked off the street, records grace and tours with it for 18th month, 18 months, Jimmy plant and Robert plant and Jimmy page come out and say, this is one of their favorite albums of the whole decade of the whole nineties. Oh, like every buddy that the number of musicians who cite, this is one of their favorite albums is staggering. They're like David Bowie. Yeah. David Bowie says it's, imagine being a musician. And David Bowie says he likes your stuff. They would like, you would just be like, I'm the greatest musician of all time. Like it's crazy. And so then he works with Patty Smith after touring for this album for about 18 months, he works with Patty Smith and he meets Tom Verlaine. Now, Russell, do you recognize that name? Tom Verlaine. Is that the guy on, on succession, Tom? Yes. But what is the driver? That guy is, this is from talking heads. He is the lead singer of television. And he asked, he asked the lead singer of television.
[55:00]Can you produce my next album? The guy agrees. A friend tells him, Hey, you should really go to Memphis to record. He goes down there. The band finally flies down. And basically one of the, after a couple of days recording, he is out swimming in the Mississippi and the band members watch sitting there, watching them. Boat goes by. Nobody ever sees him again. Like he just drowns after that first album. He had played a couple of songs from his new album. But that was it. Like this was, it's Jeff Buckley. And I think, I mean, I think it's worth noting that they said that he's, there was no drugs, alcohol, anything, nothing, not, there was nothing involved. He just, a bad accident took his life. Just this, just what everybody fears all the time. So this is at 30 years old. He was 30 years old. It's kind of eerie though. When you know, he dies like that. And then you listen to the songs that he recorded, the songs that he recorded beforehand. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And they're just, they're haunting. Like they sound like someone drowning. Yeah. Yeah. All of these sound like songs that you would play at a funeral. That's why some of these ones at the end, there's a couple where you're like, it's like crunchy blast rock.
[56:00]They're like, Oh, so let's get into this. Okay. Uh, and just, can I ask one thing before this? Yes. You guys know any, did you know, did you know any of these songs other than hallelujah before this or no? No. Yeah. I knew this whole album. Of course. I mean, yeah, I knew the whole album. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Of course you did. When would you have listened to this? Like, were you into this in the mid nineties or was this later in life that you came across it? Um, in, and why were you into it? Was it because of his, uh, his vocal chops or was it because it came out in 1994 at the greatest year that albums ever greatest year? I just think, no, no. I feel like I was probably like in my, I, I know I had at least one, like, it feels like every music department had at least one kid who was way into Jeff Buck. At least. So at some point in my four years at St. Olaf, at least one person would have had Jeff Buckley on if we were hanging out. Like it was definitely like a music major, you know, staple. Um, and then definitely like in my twenties when I was like,
[57:00]Oh, I got to figure out what were the greatest albums. I was like reading Rolling Stone magazine and like, Oh, I got to buy this CD. So I don't know exactly when I, I mean, it was never something I listened to like with people other than the people who would have introduced me to it. Like it was like, you put it on by yourself in your car or whatever, but, um, I knew the album pretty well. A couple of songs I know really well. Um, but yeah, it was all, it was, it just feels like a, you just feel like I, I, I, I, I'm going to get my takeaway too early. Like Rob talks about like dorm room vibe albums. This is like a dorm room. Like, are you okay? Dog album. Like you walk into the dorm room and someone's playing this. You're like, Hey, you're right. Dog. You're asked, you're, you know, your roommate got dumped. Like, you know, they got dumped, dumped. Yeah. Like it definitely, like definitely knew it. From, from undergrad, but not, not from times with you guys, I guess. You're too sad to even think about that person while you're pleasuring yourself. You know what I mean? Like it brings you to it. You're like, Oh, I can't believe they dumped me. All right.
[58:01]My hamstring. Uh, listen, is this album on this list? If Jeff Buckley is still alive, I'm going to ask the hard questions. Let's go. Let's go through the songs first. Then we'll answer it at the end. I think it is. I think it is. Yeah. I mean, there's, this is about, this isn't really like anybody else's. Well, I mean, I'll talk about his influences later. Yeah. I mean, how do you classify this music? I heard, um, Chris Isaac, wicked game in this song. Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's sort of like dark pop. I mean, I, I feel like he listened to a lot of Nina Simone and a lot of Jimi Hendrix and a little bit of Zeppelin and those other bands. And that's kind of what his influences were. He said his, he said that, uh, Zeppelin was his first album he got.
[59:00]So that makes sense. You're picking that up. Uh, next up grace. This is about him saying goodbye to his girlfriend at the airport on a rainy day. Listen, for some people dropping people off at the airport, you would just be blasting the happiest song ever. When you drive home, Matt, I got, I got to ask Matt, like Matt's a 90, 1994 guy. Is this like upbeat grunge or how, like, what do you think of this? I have no idea. And I try, you know, when I, I look at the album cover and I had no idea. This was from 1994 until like two days ago. Like even when I listened to the first time, like I thought I would've thought this was like a mid eighties kind of a album, maybe early eighties. You know, I have no idea what it is. I'm, I'm lost. Uh, the last, last goodbye guys. It might surprise you. This is a breakup song. This is the song. I love singing along with this song.
[60:00]This like, so I think this album, like, I'm not sure actually if this album is good. Uh, I love the album. I know it pretty well, but there's definitely parts of this album and next week's album that are like, you know, like I can't play these with people around because I'm going to sing along obnoxiously. So like, these are like, beware of halfway through. I don't know. Yeah. This is the one. I love singing. What did you say, Matt? Get into the lyrics of this one, which is so we can hear what Rosie's talking about. I just realized I forgot to pick any times on these albums. I mean, it's not unrelated to some of the neo-solo that was going on at the same time. Some of his vocalisms, I think. And then, you know, the music, it's like, well, this sounds like the verb or somebody. There's like some, some strings in there. Well, that's where I think you hear a lot of people say this was very influential. They didn't have rock like this with a falsetto voice. Is that what you would, you know, classify?
[61:00]You know, nobody thought that you could sing falsetto with rock. And he was kind of the first one that people, at least commercially heard him do that. And so that you hear a lot of what you, you know, the verb and some of these other groups that say that, you know, this is absolutely something that helped us get to where we are now. Kind of an emo, emo pop. I mean, this is, you can think of this as like a nineties emo, right? Like, yeah. So lilac wine here. This is a Nina Simone song. And this is where we kind of get into the, this album is a lot of covers, right? Yeah. This one's a cover three or four. Obviously hallelujah is the famous cover. Yeah. I wanted to play for you the Nina Simone version. Oh, please do. Let's play some more. I didn't know if Aaron would want me to play this or whatever, but I'm just going to guess. Took a chance there, Rob. We didn't take a chance. I'm brave. My hero. Yes.
[62:00]I do think he is very faithful to her version. And I think he is really purposely paying homage to her. I think. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Now. So real. Just like my favorite show. Real world. Seven people. I like it when they gave their real world jobs. You know what I mean? They're like, okay, you guys are going to work in a bar now. That was my favorite. We had some friends at the house tonight and we were talking about reality television. And I was like, well, was there, and someone said there was a scandal on this reality TV show they were watching. And I was like, what was it like a scandal when David, David from railroad Seattle was dating the producer. And they looked at me like they had no idea what I was talking about. And I was like, well, yeah, yeah. Were you wearing the hat when you had the friend? Yes. I was not wearing this. Excuse me. I'm getting,
[63:01]I'm getting a call. He opens it. He looks. Oh, it does fit in the stash pocket. Aaron. Can I tell you the truth about this album? Yeah. I could not make it through this album. I could not do it. I'm saying, I said to you over text, this might, be the album that sucks the most that I love the most. Like, I think this album might suck and I love it. So I don't know. I mean, it's like, it's a nostalgia thing. I tried to listen to this five times and I never even got to hallelujah. I just couldn't, it, I couldn't, I would like do anything else. And then today I was like, okay, I'm going to sit here and I'm going to listen to it. And then I listened to the next album and I, then I couldn't stop listening to that. I listened to that three times today. I don't know. It was very uneven. I mean, it's, it sounds, it's a young artist who had like had a bunch of ideas crammed all together. And maybe could have used an editor or like someone else to collaborate with. Well, and I think when you hear this, right. Hallelujah. I think that you realize how great a second album from him would have been.
[64:02]Like we see it over and over that a second album. I believe he does have a second album. Yeah. But it's just like a music out there. He recorded. Yeah. But it's not a full, like put together album. Like I want to see what this guy, cause he's obviously like a genius of some sort. Like there's no, no doubt about that. Or did he just listen? Like, was he just a fan of good music? Yeah. This is the most beautiful song ever. It's gotta be in the top five, right? For sure. I would say it's this scat man. Daru Sandstorm. It's right up there. God only knows. Rob, I got a question for you. You've talked about God only knows being one of your top five. Yeah. If you, if you could live in a world and there are only one, one of these songs existed, hallelujah, or God only knows, which one would you, which one would you pick? Listen, I, I can't say anything because there are members of my family who, this song is a very special song. Like it's a song they sing to their kids. It's a really, they want to sing it all the time.
[65:02]It's a very beautiful song. I cannot fucking stay on this song. I cannot. I, I heard it so many times. This is a fucking wall. This is a Rob. I don't like Ferris Bueller. I don't like funny movies. There there's Rob's got certain things that he gets kind of a prickly about. Where you wouldn't expect. As soon as I hear him breathe out at the beginning of the song, I could hear that. I'm like, God damn it. I'm out. I'm not listening to a guy who heard a breath on the record. And it's like, yeah, I better keep that in. That's a really important part of the song is me breathing out. I mean, I like this. I like these takes. This is a, this is a wind amp classic for me, but it's, it's a, I listen, there's a cover of course of the Leonard Cohen version. Now I got to say this, Jeff Buckley blows. He blows. Leonard Cohen out of the water. Like I thought Matt liked the Leonard Cohen version. I just like the song. Listen to this. It's a great song. The fifth, the minor,
[66:00]fall, the major. Yeah. He doesn't have a, I mean, there's not enough forward motion here, but it's still a perfect song. Yeah. I like the, I like the deep verse, but you know, I think like, I think Jeff Buckley's versions, like in the whatever hall of fame or the halls of Congress or whatever, things like that. I mean, I think it's just universally, I definitely accept it as the best version of that song ever. I thought about doing a list of the most beautiful songs ever. I didn't do one, but when I was Googling it, that comes up on every list you read, there's no exception and it always shows up on there. So it's pretty amazing. And it's the Jeff Buckley version or it's just the song. It's always the Jeff Buckley version. Well, I can tell you, listen, you know, my thoughts on the Jeff Buckley version, not a fan. It blows the Leonard Cohen version out of the water. Like there's no time where you're listening to the Leonard Cohen version. You're like, Oh, I wish I was listening to this. Version instead of the Jeff Buckley version. You guys can be, you guys can say whatever you want. I like his voice. I like a lot of his songs. Not that one. I think we should get a sound clip of Rob saying blows Leonard Cohen,
[67:01]just in case we need it. Well, I mean, that's, he says it in one of his songs, right? In that song about Janis Joplin blowing him. are you good? You're doing well, the Chelsea hotel on unmade bed, giving me head. It's in, it's right in the song. It's about Janis Joplin. I, you're, you're blowing my mind right now. And at the end, she said, I want you to come on, come on the towels. All right. So you don't have to sleep. So, well, you don't have to sleep in the wet spot. All right, lover. You should have come over. Hey, I mean, what a coincidence. That's the next song we're in here. Oh, wait, wait, go back to the beginning. They can come up. Squeeze box in it. What? Hmm. Mama's got a squeeze. Yeah. Right. Isn't that a squeeze box? I'll tell you what. I bought my, I bought my wife a squeeze box. I haven't gotten a wink of sleep since then. I wish somebody would have warned me.
[68:03]So we should write a song about this. Yes. You guys were talking earlier about kind of the influence he had. And I started thinking, you kind of hear this where you're talking about like emo rock or whatever. So I started reading about all these bands that were influenced by him. So I thought we could do a list of the greatest songs and bands ever that were influenced by Jeff Buckley. Oh, I just want to say this. Everybody got on me about interrupting and shutting down songs or dumb stories. Aaron made me go to that part of the song. Did you guys hear what we were listening to there? Wait, how often do you get to hear a squeeze box on this podcast? He gave you a perfect comedic opportunity, Rob. You passed on it. So he nailed it. Well, I don't want to talk about how I enjoy it. I mean, I dated somebody. All right. Before we talk about the artists that Jeff Buckley influenced, there's actually an artist that really influenced, Jeff Buckley. I needed to hit on that one first because it's one of Matt's favorites. The first song on our list is a song that was very influential for Jeff Buckley.
[69:02]It's Soundgarden Black Hole Sun. Oh, wow. Yes. Chris Cornell loves Jeff Buckley. You're right, Matt. He did. He did like two peas in a pod, right? Buckley actually was a huge fan of Black Hole Sun. He actually hired Soundgarden's sound engineer and said, I want the same speaker that you built for Chris Cornell. Wow. Nice. And when a lot of people talk, but like voices from that era, they talk about Cornell. They talk about Buckley and a really interesting thing. The reason I had to bring this up is after he died, Jeff Buckley's mom actually talked about Chris, how Chris Cornell helped her, helped her kind of like navigate the music world and help him get his music out. That was recorded into another album because she needed help. She didn't know what to do. And she was like, Jeff Buckley couldn't complete these songs and they weren't ready to be put out. But she also was like, I can't just let these go nowhere. They have to go somewhere. So Chris Cornell, was actually really influential in helping him get that other music out. But I thought that was really cool.
[70:00]That's cool. And what I didn't get is that Jeff Buckley is quoted as saying, I didn't think the Black Hole Sun video was scary at all. It didn't terrify me. It wasn't the scariest thing I ever saw. Only person on earth who wasn't scared of that video. It's the first time I watched that. You're like, Oh, all right. First song on the list that was really influenced by Jeff Buckley. It's I'd say this is another emo rock band. It's Coldplay. The song is Shiver from 2000. And the lead singer for Coldplay is who Russell? Do we know it yet? I have it written down as Curtis Martin. Curtis Martin from the Jets. Nailed it. Curtis Martin. Might be in the Hall of Fame someday. Do you guys hear the similarities with Coldplay and Jeff Buckley? Yeah. Oh, for sure. Similar juxtaposition of like acoustic. I mean, maybe Zeppelin did this first, like some acoustic guitar with this sort of, with electric and then the soaring vocals over the top. Chris Martin, Curtis Martin said, you know, passing, 10,000 rushing yards. He said, this was a blatant Jeff Buckley ripoff.
[71:00]He admitted to it. And he said, he wasn't quite as good as Jeff Buckley, but Jeff Buckley was always a hero for him. Right. So I don't think without Jeff Buckley, I don't think there's a Coldplay, right? No, probably not. I'll tell you what. I, I, I know I'm wrong about Jeff Buckley. I know I'm wrong about this album. This is, remember when we started this podcast and I kept telling you, I have a little brain and I know that. And so when I think things like this, like, Oh, this album's not my favorite, but a big head we've learned. So big. There's so much that's in there. A lot of skull. Well, what did you guys say that one time? I looked like the Rocky Dennis from the mask. You said that once. What? Nobody said that. You did. You said Rocky Dennis from the mask. Somebody said that. I did. Not a great thing to hear this in between. This is Russell thinking I stink. This podcast has been hard on me lately. You're the one you had, you had, you had random poop on your jacket. That was the logical question. Was we don't know where it came from. So yes, it was random poop. And yes, it was on my shirt, but that's not my hygiene. Russell. Okay.
[72:00]When, when poop hits you, that's not on you, man. If you were walking around with random poop on your jacket, I think that counts as your hygiene. Yep. Oh, you guys are getting enough of me. Cause I sent a picture of from the urinal where I was on my phone. Did you guys like the artistic? Oh, I set that photo up by the way, at the urinal selfie camera over the shoulder. You could see the only thing that could have been better is if you just had your pants down. It's all the way down. Like a, like a kindergartner. I saw one of those guys. I saw one of those guys at the, where was I? I was at a game with, Oh, I went to that gophers game and I went into the bathroom and there's an old man pants all the way down. Everybody in the bathroom was laughing at him out loud. Oh no. And then I had to go out and explain to Amelia what I saw. And she was like, what? And I was like, I don't know. It's like seeing, it's like seeing a unicorn. Like every once in a while you get to see the old man with the pants down, but for the grace of God, go I, you know what I mean? Like it's going to be close. So anyway, I know this album should be good when all these musicians who, I think are very, very good. Like it. I must be, I must be wrong.
[73:00]Cause next band on the list is not one of my favorites, but heavily influenced by Jeff Buckley. This is radio head, fake plastic trees. Oh yeah. Oh, but this is a great list. Beautiful songs of all time. At least it came out of the nineties. It's a great song. Is it Tom York's man? Jim York. Jim York. Jim York. He was saying that he was, they were actually having a really hard time. Like finishing fake plastic trees. They didn't know how to finish it. And they actually went to a Jeff Buckley concert. And that's what really inspired him. And they were blown away by Jeff Buckley. And that's what kind of inspired the vocals on this song. He came back in, blew it out of the water. So I don't know. I don't know if radio head sounds the same way they do. If it isn't for Jeff Buckley. And then what I don't get is what I don't get is when Tom York said, listen, Jeff Buckley also said, why don't I take a bunch of toothpaste and put chocolate around it? Boom. It's a peppermint patty dog.
[74:00]Yum. Yes. Jim York. I mean, that's a flavor of a York from a patty. It's toothpaste surrounded by chocolate. And I love them. I eat them by the ton at work. All right. Next song on the list. This is an artist we've talked about a few times before. The song's from 2015. The artist is Adele. The song is when we were young. Adele. Adele. She's got to be a Jeff Buckley fan. She's a huge Jeff Buckley fan. Actually, one of the best comments I saw on the internet about it was this is the reason why Adele, always sounds so sad is because she's a Jeff Buckley fan. How could you be anything but sad? If you listen to any Jeff Buckley song, like it's going to make you sad. She said, she's super into music that uplifts her. That's for some reason she doesn't connect with, but she said she always grew up. Her mom was constantly listening to Jeff Buckley grace. And so that's what she grew up with. It was, and she said, the grace has always been around me. So it was a huge influence on her. Okay. Guys,
[75:00]guys, huge. Jeff Buckley is about to go on stage. Hello everybody. Yeah. I'm actually, I'm actually a big fan. Hello everybody. I'm huge. Jeff Buckley speaking falsetto or not. Guess what song I'm going to open and close with. What's that? Then there's a 10 minute intro. Do, do, do that. You have to find a clip from the podcast I put over. Cause you forgot the intro was so long. It's a minute long. Is that the end of big Jeff, huge Jeff Buckley? What? That's the end of huge Jeff Buckley. Yeah. Huge Jeff Buckley has one joke. Oh, like this album is one song. All right. Next song on the list. This is one of Matt's favorites. He's talked about this artist a few weeks over the last few months. The next song is black beauty. The song is by Lana Del Rey. Oh, American treasure. You know, this one matter. No, I don't know this one either.
[76:00]I listened to, I celebrate her entire collection. I don't know this song. I'll tell you what black beauty was. What they popped out of my bag at work. I had to go on vacation. Bringing it with me. I can hear the Buckley in here. It's like this sort of like cinematic. I think she moved to New York and she was saying she fell in love with Dylan Sinatra, Leonard Cohen and Jeff Buckley. Oh, there you go. And this song is actually called black beauty. It's a reference to a line where he's saying black beauty, baby, black beauty, baby in the song mojo pin at the very beginning. So that's the influence for that song there. And then you guys will appreciate this. She said, hallelujah would be the perfect song to die to heavenly voice, heavenly tunes. Jeez. All right. There you go. I'm with her. Oh no, I'm not actually. If that, you know what? That would be such a bummer for me. If that was a song that was playing, like I'm just on my deathbed and I just hear, I'm like, no softly in the background.
[77:00]I hear it building. And then you're back and I'm back. I write, I'm like the undertaker coming up out of the grave. I'm energized by hot teachers. They, they raise your hand in bed. Like, like they do in wrestling and the jobs raised it again. And all of a sudden you hear the high hat coming back up. Here we go. The teachers in a bikini with a beauty contestant sash on. If you remember from the video, that's what she was wearing in the classroom, which was awesome. Last song on the list is, I believe we may have talked about this song maybe a long time ago. It was the, it was the final song from the TV show six feet under the artist is sea of the songs. Breathe me. Do you guys know this one? Yeah, I remember this from, from the show. It was like a law. You can picture this as a long outro to the whole thing.
[78:01]Yeah. Kind of given like an update. And so I don't know a ton of CS music, but she's got huge songs and I was in the leader. She was very, very influenced by Jeff Buckley. She said there was a part, there was a part where she was touring a lot. She started getting really into music, but she said up until then she had only owned two albums in her life. The Jackson five best of grace by Jeff Buckley. So she was really influenced by Jeff Buckley, but the really, the interesting thing about see us having a good day or a bad day. Let's check the record player. Like just ABC or, but one of the really cool things about this is she was actually touring with a group called Britain duo zero or a British group called duo zero in 2001. And there was an artist that was touring or heard her sing. It was back back. Actually asked her to come sing with him at his next concert. They saying like a dark version of you're the one that I want. That's the grease. This song, right? Yeah. What they did a dark version of that. And then he said she killed it.
[79:01]She ended up touring with him for like the whole tour. And that was a part of her, like becoming a much bigger artist. So I thought when it comes to helping artists make it big, that were inspired by Jeff Buckley, who did it better? Beck did it better. Not even a Russell. That was a, I love that list. You know what? Anytime you want to do an influence by list, you know, I love that stuff. You got to do it. It's awesome. Isn't it? That's a great list. Well, I, you know, the talk about Sia though, reminds me of my roommate in college, my freshman roommate, because now he works at his dad's Sia dealership. All right. So let's just move on stolen all the time. Let's not think about that one too much. And that the fact that I actually wrote it down to not forget it. And it looked bad on the page when I wrote it. Is that your new opening comedy joke? If you do, if you ever do stand up opener. Hey, you guys know that artist Sia reminds me of my college roommate works at his dad's Sia dealership. I don't know. That's pretty good. Yeah. It's not,
[80:00]that's better than my other one. Can't say the other one. Cause the kids sitting right next to me. That's really, all right. Corpus Christi. Carol reminds me of a girl I dated named Corpus Christi. Carol. You see like this right here. This is like in the choir nerds. Like this is, we ate the stuff up. Yep. No idea. This is like a song from like a fit from like the 1500s that has made it through. And then he was influenced. By somebody who's saying it. I don't know. So here's so bizarre. They put this on this album, right? It's bizarre. I mean, and here's what I don't get. How bizarre is that? His next song. I mean, this is going to blow your mind. His next song was this one. He put this on the, well, this is the Gregorian chant version. That's right. Forgotten. Oh, it was, he called it a funeral.
[81:01]It's the funeral version. Yeah. Jeff Buckley was like, Hey, this is kind of a upbeat one. I like this one. Now you might say, Rob, you didn't delete that sound clip. No, never, never will. I love that one. Russell, real quick. The only thing I, I happened to see this and I didn't text it to you, but Jeff Beck performed that song, the, the Corpus Christi Carol or whatever. For real. In his Buckley inspired interpretation in 2010. Awesome. Oh, so when it comes to playing the Corpus Christi Carol, uh, inspired by, uh, uh, Jeff Buckley, who did it better? Jeff Beck did it better. Can you imagine? I feel like I can say he's doing this on his guitar and his electric guitar. Jeff, I think it's speaking, isn't it? I would be so pissed if I went to the concert and Jeff Beck was fucking playing this shit. I'd be like, I paid 300 bucks for top balcony seats for this.
[82:02]Rob, would you be one of the people in the audience that you'd act like it was really cool for a while? And you'd be like, what the fuck? Would you immediately be pissed off? My brain is so small. I would immediately, I would immediately be like, I love this. This is so deep. That was it. That was, that was it. And he plays the day in the life. Man. Yeah. Interesting. That's very cool, man. That would be fun. What were you going to say, man? I was just going to say, is that tough to play? But then he only plays just like a 15 to 20 second intro of it. So it's not like it's even tough to play. I don't, I don't play the guitar. You do, but Aaron, if he played that, would you recognize that as a Jeff Beck song? Or as I, I don't know. I, not if I hadn't listened to the album recently. No, I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have picked up on it. Yeah. Uh, eternal life. Now let me ask you this. Does this sound like the red hot chili peppers? Do you, this? Yeah. This intro. Yeah. I hear it. Yeah. I mean, yeah,
[83:02]this song surprised me. This is a scary song. It's crunchy. It's like, not super sad. Although still kind of sad. For this album to go from the last song to this within like a 12 minute. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's almost too much, isn't it? It's completely, it's not even it's, it's, it's hard. Like putting on at home. I was like, I was like, I don't really listen to Jeff Buckley. Grace. And she's like, Oh yeah, I remember that one. And then there's so many moments that come on. You're just like, Oh, I can't like, I can't listen to this right now. Like it's, it's grating. It's hard. It's jarring. It's a, yeah, it's, let me ask you, do you think John's for Shantae was listening to this album at all? I mean, listen to this. No, this is not song. What is the song that starts like that? Let's not get on top. Oh, I just had it. What is that song?
[84:01]Yep. That's it. Can't stop. Guys, when this edit comes together, you're never going to know that I sang you the song. And then we had to figure it out by me going. And it was one of the most entertaining parts of the episode, actually. I mean, listen, I hear it. There you go. This is great. This is a great intro. This is a great intro. This gets me hyped every time. And then it's bangs. Yep. It's like the Lenny Kravitz vibrato from a few weeks ago. And Rob went, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Remember that Rob? Yes. This is fantastic. I mean, that is Jeff Buckley all over it. Russell, what did you think of the chili peppers when you bought your roommate a ticket and you guys went together? That was one that was too expensive. Oh, that's right. I forgot. Oh, geez. I can't believe I brought that up again. Some of us have a child labor to pay for here. Oh my God. You guys are having a baby.
[85:01]You're paying for child labor. Is it Facebook official? Can we, can we tell all the, all of our fans? My advice is when your wife gives birth, you got to tell her to clear the weeds. You know what I mean? It's like, well, what? Hey, Rob, that joke should get a euthanasia. That baby came out looking like that. That thing of the magnetic board, you know, like the hair you can move around. My favorite part of a double record. It's Rob delaying the end of the first episode. Just, just try to stretch it as far as I can. Just like, Hey, just like all Kogan. When he talked about the cranberries dream, brother, speaking of baby pictures, this has happened like twice within the last few years where I've had a friend who's had like a kid and they've sent like a, you know, the, the text to all their friends with the baby picture, but it's been like, how do I say it? Like not like a wrapped up baby and like someone, someone's arms looking happy.
[86:00]It's been like the, like freshly born picture, baby. Like what do you think is the right type of picture to send to your friends after you've had a kid? It's gotta be the freshly swaddled. Yeah. The swaddled baby with the smiling parents. That's what it's gotta be. Listen, is the baby, is the baby a color where we're not worried about them? Then you can take a picture and send it. Okay. If the baby is a weird color or its head looks like an alien, like something you'd see in a jar in a science, fiction movie, do not send that picture yet. You gotta wait. You gotta let those things like bananas. Don't try to, don't do it too early. They're no good. Same with avocados, man. You gotta think it's just right. Yeah. And don't put the baby babies with the other fruit. They make them go bad. All right. So that was a bad, it was a good one. Let's get into the rating system. Now listen, this album is at one 40.
[87:01]Let's see. Seagull. Seagull. Is that what it was? Was that seven? Is this one 47? I remember that. Cause I said, wasn't that what I said? I love at the beginning. I love seagull. So that's how I remember it. So one 47 guys, my brains, my brain's normal. Okay. This is not a weird, Oh no. She's somebody walked in and Russell's looking around. Like he's in a horrible Russell. The call is coming from upstairs. I'm kind of getting, I don't like sit down here. How do you think we feel? We feel like we're in a hole. Is this just like Jeff? Buckley. Okay. Jeff Buckley. Perfect. Right at Rob. Watch it here. Right at one 47. Okay. No Russell. This is going to be even better than you think. Okay. Trust me. This is going to be good. Okay. This is Jeff Buckley. That's a rolling well tone. Just like Jeff Buckley. It's a perfect thing. Is this even better than Jeff Buckley? It's Jeff 20 Buckley. Okay. Just as is this a Jeff 20 Buckley? That would be a rolling bone.
[88:01]It should have been higher up on the list. This album is too good. Just like if you thought you had a Buckley and it turns out you had a 20 Buckley. 20 Buckley or is this like a album roll? Is this a Jeff? Jeff Nicoli. Okay. Is this a Jeff Nicoli? Not as good as you thought the nickel, probably one of the worst coins because penny, you can just Chuck, right? We're throwing away pennies. We don't care. Right? Everybody we're in agreement there. Come on. You've never thrown away a penny. Aaron, don't lie to me. Aaron, if you were throwing away a penny, just cannot help him. So he has to keep it going. Do you want Matt to, you want Matt to cancel next week? So Robert right now, listen, the nickel, the worst court, the worst coin. Nobody likes the nickel. That would be a rolling grown. Nobody like this. That's just like Jeff Nicoli. All right. So Aaron, what do you think? Rolling? Well-toned rolling, boned or rolling grown. And I was right. You guys did like that. This one, once again, this is one of those for me that just has to stand outside of the rating system.
[89:00]It's a, it's an album that I love personally. I don't know that it holds up. So I'm going to give it a rolling well-toned because I love the album, but yeah, I'm going to go to rolling. Well-toned. Matt, what do you think? Rolling? Well-toned rolling, boned or rolling, grown grace, Jeff Buckley. I think if I hadn't listened or if I just listened to the album, I would have said it was rolling grown, should be lower on the list. But then I did all the research. I know he promised to do no research, but I did a little research and found all of these great connections that Russell brought up and you know, you brought up and you know, it's a, and you can, you can connect the dots. It's an influential album for a lot of artists that came after Jeff Buckley here. And he was well-loved I think by some old time artists, David Bowie and Dylan and some of those guys. So I think I'm just going to say it's rolling well-toned that it's, it's pretty good here, right in the mid one forties, one 47 Russell, what do you think? Rolling? Well-toned rolling, boned or rolling grown. Speaking of roommates, grace by Jeff Buckley.
[90:02]I'm kind of torn on this one. I liked, I mean, it's got hallelujah on it. That's an, that's an all time song. If you have an all time song on it, you've got to be, I think you got to get credit for me. It's just a little too all over the place. I think Aaron put it really well earlier. Like I don't remember what song it was, but you get to the end and you kind of get a certain vibe with it. And then all of a sudden it's just loud as shit. And it doesn't seem there's parts of it that don't seem to make a lot of sense to me, but I did really enjoy seeing like how influential he was for a lot of these bands. But honestly, a lot of the bands he's influential up for, aren't my style. Like, hopefully it's not my type of band. You're going to make it out without this. We were so close. So I really liked a lot of the music, but it's, it's just not for me. It's not the right tone. They were actually that, that radio had something I was talking about. It was actually in the movie clueless and share Alicia Silverstone was criticizing her stepbrother's taste in music. When she heard that saying this is cry baby music. And honestly, it's just not my type of music.
[91:00]So I love hallelujah. I think it's an all time song. I think some of the other songs are really fun, super talented, super influential, but I'm going to say it's rolling grown. This quote on the back of the album cover is cry baby music. It is. It's I get it. Listen, this gets a rolling one album. Okay. This, the greatest, the worst thing about this album is knowing his second album was going to deliver. It was going to be crazy. I mean, think about this guy cranking out music. Everybody loves him. Everybody thinks it's great. He just refines and he finds his own vision. He's doing less and less covers as he goes. And we get to see what he would have created. What a bummer that we don't have him around. This is one where he's, this would have been really interesting to see what he would have done in the future. Next up, we get an album. That's appealing because he's singing about a small version of himself. What's that? I, God, I wrote this joke and then I didn't realize why I wrote it.
[92:01]Channel orange by Frank ocean is a channel is smaller than an ocean. Greatest albums of all. I mean, should we just quit appealing? Cause he was going to appeal to orange either way. If, if we quit, right now, would I have to edit this episode and then they get off track? Yeah, you know, you would still have, you would still, you'd want to, you would do it because you want to. All of our advertisers would be really mad if you didn't get this episode out. Rob. Yeah. Hey, Rob, my, my roommate, I'll go and just poked her, hit her lurch head in the basement. I got a scat man. Good night. My God. It's time to say my breath out. I have breath that there's so much there. I mean, I thought he was going to say I got a skeet, so it's different, but he didn't say that. There's so much there. Aaron, Aaron, you put that hat on. Doesn't mean you can make those jokes. Yeah. Aaron, we have to, let's turn our headphones to orange. If we're doing orange, but Frank, let's go to orange. Okay.
[93:00]Yeah. I think I'm going to go back to the drinks on the, on the lawn. I really think we should quit guys. I'm going to save. Yeah, me too. Well, don't bother. Move it directly to the trash.
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