Johnny Cash: At Folsom Prison (1968)

[00:00]All right, sleepover update. It is 1.12 a.m. my time. They are watching a movie still outside. There's a sound machine in the bedroom next to me, so nobody cares about audio fidelity these days. It turns out. In 2020, four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums as decided by Rolling Stone magazine. This resulted in a tech chain that celebrated the music, excoriated the order, and led us to making this podcast. We are far from experts. We promise to do almost no research. All opinions are our own unless you disagree. Please sit back and enjoy. Anyway, Beck did it better.

[00:30]Guys, that one was so easy for me to read. That means I need to up my game a little bit. Here we go. We are up to album 164. We are up to album 164. And from 1968, hey, you do me and I'll owe you one. We have The Man in Black at Folsom Prison with Johnny Cash. Wow, we're really here. We really did it. How long have we been saying there's no Johnny Cash on this list? And here we are. Here we are. We made it. I'll tell you what. It is so lucky that his name is Johnny Cash

[01:00]because that hello, you know, hello, I'm Johnny Cash, sounds so much better than hello, I'm Little Dick Nick, the quit-hit dipshit. Like, that would not sound good. If his name was Little Dick Nick, the quit-hit dipshit. Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong. It'd be tougher. Yeah, I can't disagree. Listen, let's, guys, let's clang our cups against our bars. Okay? And let's ask the warden

[01:31]to please put on the prison radio. Let's turn on the radio and see. And don't say anything about prison errands that are going to bum us out right now. Okay? Please, I'm begging you. Okay? I'm begging you, try. Try your hardest. You think they forgot? Now, you have to think about what's something that we talked about in the last two weeks that would just get stuck in my head and clang around? Okay? And I would say even maybe we didn't talk about it. It was just kind of implied, right? But it's been clanging around and then it's just been clanging around. And then it's just been clanging around. And then it's just been clanging around. And then what if you made one of your longest parody songs of all time?

[02:00]Okay? Because it was just such a bountiful harvest of things to talk about. Okay? Aaron, would you like that or would you not like that? I would love it, I think. Well, then hey, happy Valentine's. Here we go. Well, I'm back to it better. Russell comes home and does his night routine. Oh, what a song. He makes her mute the TV, reads his Hulk Hogan magazine. Yes. And drinks a martini made of espresso. Yeah. But he can't He can't figure out how to get the right amount of foam.

[02:30]Then he has to take some notes on this week's podcast. Has to do it quick because Rob didn't edit it fast. He goes upstairs and he brushes his teeth. He has to move eight pillows to get beneath the sheets. Sits in the bed, doesn't have much to say. He's lying there listening about her day. He's going to bed and he's going to tell her about an email he typed.

[03:00]But when he began to talk, then she turned off the light. They are lying there and they're getting to sleep. To the other side, Russell starts to creep. Then he thinks that he has a shot. When she turns to him and she says, I'm getting hot. Russell smiled and he said, all right. Looks like it's going to be one of those days. One of those fun nights. As soon as he started getting close to her.

[03:31]When she said, I said hot, I meant the temperature. Then she looked at him and said, can you move a bit? I need to stretch out. I need to stretch my hip. Then Russell laid back. He began to snore. She poked him and she said, could you move a little more? He looked at over and he said, hey there. The way we split the bed, well, it doesn't seem fair.

[04:00]She looked at him and then she said, I agree. I think I should get the whole bed. Come on, Russell. You need to listen to us. The key to marriage is a nice air mattress. When you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time. I was proud of that one, but I'll tell you, the timing was tough. I will say, we did get an extra room

[04:30]in the upstairs. We did buy an additional bed, like a guest bed for that room. There was no bed there before. And I knew what was going on. This was like the first move towards you're going to have to move to that room at some point when you're annoying me, right? No, Russell, Russell, you know, you know how like just silent. Aaron knows exactly what I'm talking about. No, no, no, no. Russell, you know how when you're about to get broken up with, you try to break up with them first. You know what I mean? It's like quitting before you can get fired. It's that kind of thing. You have to send her

[05:01]to that room before she sends you. You need to preemptively say, you're not sleeping in this bed tonight. Get over to that other room. Just try it. Just try it. See how it goes. Great advice. Just great advice. I think it's going to be fine. All right. I'm here with three guys who want to talk about Johnny Cash. They want to talk about Folsom Prison Blues. I think for all of us, this is a big time album. I've got three guys here. I've got Matt in Minneapolis. Matt, how are you doing? Good, Rob. I just wanted to say, just make sure you're always being a good boy. Don't ever play with guns, okay?

[05:30]Wow. Usually Aaron makes the gun jokes. Right? I'm going to clip that. I've got Russell in Minneapolis. Russell, how are you doing? I'm good. Well, his mustache is very handsome to look at. He's shaggy and he eats ice cream like a hog. And he's famous for choking his chicken, that dirty old Cadbury egg-sucking Rob. Can you hear the dog coughing as he walks behind me? So good. Listen,

[06:02]I've got, and I've got Aaron out in California now. Aaron, a lot of people don't know this. He recently won an award for being the most secretive guy at the office. They don't know anything about him? Secretive? Yeah, yeah. He can't tell you how much it means to him. I've got Aaron in California. Aaron, how are you doing? I just got back from walking these hills in a long black veil. Let's talk about Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison. Oh. Now, guys, which one of you would say you're my best friend? Huh?

[06:30]I'm watching you. Okay. Arms of my wife. I don't think so. Let's get into the voicemail. We have all these bits that are only funny if you've listened to this album one million times and you know every lyric to this album. It's like... Do you guys ever wonder like if you're, if nobody claims you as your best friend? Like, the world can't be a perfect where it's a synergy where everyone has one best friend. There's got to be people who are like, oh, there's probably 10 people that think Rob

[07:00]is their best friend. For sure. But then there's other people where nobody, they're like, no, I guarantee no one thinks I'm their best friend. Wouldn't that be weird? That would be, that's sad. My friend Suzanne and I have this conversation all the time because Suzanne and I, we openly declare that we're best friends, right? But she also calls her friend out in California her best friend. That's whack. And when she said it, she was like, hey, I don't know. And I said, listen, best friend is a tier. It's not an exclusive thing.

[07:30]We can all be best friends. It's a tier. If you're a best friend, that's right up there. It's zero sub game. It's one or the other. Russell, no way. It also depends on how many downloads she's made. Who is Suzanne? Who is Suzanne going to pick between the two of you? That's the question. Oh, me. Comes down to it. I mean, that's the thing is it is me. Okay. It is a tier, but that other one can hit the bricks if she thinks she's the real best friend because I actually agree with Russell. That's totally right. All right. There are so many children wandering around Rob's room right now.

[08:00]It's so underrated. I see a shoulder. Why are these children awake? On the back line, 802-277-BECK. That's 802-277-277-25. I need to say something, but can you guys just check your chat real quick here? Oh, no. Hmm. You fucking A. Russell's lights just turned off. I've got these, God damn it. I've got these track lights in my basement. Yeah. And if they're on for like more than like five, six hours, they just fucking, they'd shut off in the middle of the night. Oh, no. Russell, I was wondering why you were running

[08:30]a 400 earlier. It's the track lighting. You know what that means, Rob? I get to put my spotlight back on. Oh, no. The spotlight. Yes. Now Russell looks like he's on an episode of Cops. Oh, boy, Russell, you're a little flushed out. It looks good. Now, Aaron, if you're going to talk about my text chat message, you have to read it. That's the bit is that you can read it. Why is it in chat? Because I can't say it in front of them. What Rob said in the chat was that they're looking at me, Ray. Rob's daughter's friends are calling him Rob and he's freaked out by like he expects to be called Mr. What?

[09:00]And my son calls me Aaron all the time and he calls my wife Anna and we've tried so hard to break him of it that we just gave on Rob. That is so funny. We just write that down. Anna, her name's Anna. Well, next time you forget. I would never forget. Aaron, I wonder if this is like, I wonder if single children or solo children are more likely to call their parents by their first name. That might be it because he hears us call each other that. I don't know. And now like we've given up on it.

[09:31]Just like I try and then it's like he reverts back to it. I don't care. And then we're like we're at a function tonight and he's like, hey, Aaron. And people are like, whoa, are you calling your dad by his first name? And like, I'm like, should I be upset about this? I don't know. But I don't. But when I was a kid, I never called like my friend's parents like Mr. Mr. Halter, Mr. Casey. It was it was Tom and Kevin. And I don't really their first name ever. I also didn't have a lot of respect for adult authority. I I don't know. Maybe it's just because my best friend growing up, they were big on like,

[10:00]no, I'm, you know, Dr. So-and-so. Like, I think Rochester's a little more formal than most places. It was like, I'm Dr. So-and-so. I'm Dr. So-and-so. I could never call. I don't even know what to say to parents at school. I tell them to call me by my first name and it sounds weird. I kind of want them to call me, you know, Mr. Stud. The problem is, you know, man, I think you're right, though. Big John Stud. Don't say my last name. It is. I do think it's true, Russell. I think kids, they'll hear what your spouse calls each other.

[10:30]And so they'll call you that. And that's why my kids have been calling me Little Dick Nick, the quick hit dipshit. So hard for me to say. It's a long setup for that joke. It's so big. It's such a big setup. OK, so I'm just going to say this. There's a three minute voicemail that is a prior to this that I am not playing. But is this story? It's a good story, but I'm not playing it. It's music. Mike went to see Pearl Jam. They weren't doing big stadium tours that he had to go to Boulder. So he's hanging out with a friend. He goes up to this place

[11:00]and all of a sudden they find themselves in a practice room with Eddie Vedder going to the Pearl Jam show. So what do you do when you find yourself in a in a room with somebody who you're like obsessed with? Wow. OK, let's let's listen to the voicemail because I want I have some opinions about this. OK, so Eddie Vedder sees us. We see him in the practice room. He's aware of our presence, but we don't go over and bother him or anything. So my buddy pulls one of the guitars off the wall and starts playing

[11:31]a bunch of different Pearl Jam songs. I think we played like a live. I don't remember. But the one for sure I remember that he played was Black because that was the one that got Eddie to come over and talk to us. So then Eddie came over and told my friend like, hey, you're an awesome guitar player. I don't even know how to play that song. And great job on learning it. Blah, blah, blah. And talked to us for about five minutes,

[12:00]shook our hands was super, super nice. You know, thank us for not for letting him come to us and not the other way around, you know, not mobbing him or whatever. And yeah, he was super cool. So, you know, Matt, if you ever get the opportunity, don't hesitate because he's definitely a good guy. It's definitely not don't meet your hero stereotype. So, you know, the question I have for you then is have any of you guys met anybody famous and who was it

[12:30]and give me your story. Talk to you guys later. Bye. Magic Mike. What a guy. What a great story. That's a great legend. Am I wrong? If I was with a friend and we saw Eddie Vedder and they started playing Pearl Jam songs on the guitar, I would be mortified. Russell, would you be mortified? What else are you going to play though? It's a little more creative than just going up and fanboying out, right? At least you're trying to do something and you're trying to do it in a fun, fun way. And you know what? If he wants to ignore it, he can ignore it and you're not imposing on him. That's a great point. And that's the thing

[13:00]is I know, I feel like I have social anxiety about that. He wouldn't get mad, right? As long as you're not bugging him, but oh, you're right. I think it is the best. I think that's the best choice you could make. I just would, I would still give me the skeeves. I don't know, Matt. Oh, I'm with you that I'm trying to put into like a sports, you know, analogy. So like if all of a sudden Steph Curry is on the other side of a court or four courts down or something and you just start shooting threes from all over the place and making it, you know, like, you know, maybe Steph comes,

[13:30]I don't know, maybe that's cool or you start hitting dingers, you know, in front of some baseball players. That would be more in the context probably, but yeah, you know, so I don't know. Maybe it's okay. I'm not a musician at all. So I have no idea if that's cool or not, but no, I'd be mortified. It's his song, man. You know, we got to get out of here. That kind of thing. But then when he came over, you would know it was like the perfect, I think Russell's right. You're giving him the option. So yes. Yeah. You know what I would do if I saw Steph Curry in the other room to get his attention?

[14:00]What's that? I would start pitching FTX and other fraudulent companies and get paid a ton of money for it, but no one's going to give me shit about it because I'm Steph Curry and they like me even though I'm committing securities fraud. That's what I would do. I would simply donate mostly to Democrats and then they don't seem to prosecute you for that. It's so strange how that works. It seems to be all right if you're on the right side of the aisle there, right? But he's a spokesman for Subway too. Is Subway okay? One of our St. Olaf classmates told me a story that he lived out here, Mike L. from Kansas,

[14:31]who I don't even know where he is now, but he lived out here for a long time and Steph Curry showed up at his church and like nobody even batted an eye. He was like, yeah, he sat right in front of me at church and nobody even did anything. So I guess, I don't know, I guess go to church if you want to meet celebrities. And then you handed them a LeBron James cake he made or whatever that said 0 and 3 on it or whatever they had at his party. Hey, you want this 0 and 3 cake I made? I don't remember the exact story. I have met a couple famous people through my teaching here in the city. Like I had Paul Rudd come in and watch me teach

[15:00]and then he laughed when I told a joke. I thought that was pretty awesome. And then I did meet a cast of, a cast member of friends. I can't say who it is because he was also at the school where I was at, but it was, we were meeting, we were sitting next to each other at brunch and I mentioned that I worked at the school that his kid went to. Now, did I know this? Yes. Did I bring it up because, because of this? Absolutely, 100%. Did he then turn to me and we talked about kids' dental work and then he wanted to set up a play date later? Yes. Now,

[15:30]here's the, here's the real problem here. Was it Smiley Cat? My wife tried to get in on this play date. She was like, hey, I'll come to the play date too. And I said, I don't think so. I set up this play date. I get to go to it. I'm going to go hang out at this person's house because there is a not 0% chance that Jennifer Aniston is going to show up. to this play date. She might just be there and be like, oh, hey, how's it going? And then now, guess who's in Friends? You? It's me. I'm there. Hey, hey.

[16:00]Hey, the replacements. I love these guys. We're at Central Perk. It's me, Rob. I'm one of the friends. Oh, we're Thanksgiving or whatever that shit was. I mean, you know, all those other great Friends bits. A lot of them what you watch now with your kids and you're like, oh, that's not nice. What they just said. Take for you guys. I think I've seen less than three episodes of Friends in my life. Wow. Russell. I know of the show. Like, I know kind of like

[16:30]the stories of Ross and Rachel. Like, I know like the pop culture stuff with it. Okay. But I've never seen the show. Russell. Russell. Were they on a break? I think they were on a break. He was banging like a nanny or something, right? So you also, yeah, you get it then. Russell, if it was Thanksgiving and you wanted to entertain somebody, what would you do? What would you put on your head? This is way beyond me. The answer is a frozen turkey, but that's a good, nice try. If you couldn't get a Santa Claus costume,

[17:01]what would you come as as a secondary option? Easter bunny. An armadillo. You come as an armadillo. Now, man, of course, it turns out, man, is the real friends here. He should be at the phone. Can I just say this, though? The other day at school, I was telling the kids that for Halloween I'm dressing up as Santa Claus this year. That's a good, that's a good, that's a good Halloween costume. So who are the famous people you guys have seen? Well, I tell this one and then people immediately get sad because like his ending

[17:30]was sad, but the sad part is that I, what I'm really sad about is that I played it cool, but I didn't do what I, like looking back, I wish I played it differently. So we were in New York at the Hotel Jane, which is like, I don't know, Lower East Side or something. And on a Sunday morning. And you were sitting inside in an unmade bed. And who knows what was going on? No, we just went there to have brunch. So we went there to have brunch and we were there. And we were like, and Philip Seymour Hoffman was there playing foosball with like what I assume was his kid. And we were also there and like he was just playing foosball. And so it was very like not very many people in there.

[18:00]So I played it cool and just said, you know, just like gave him a nod and that was it. But like now looking back, what I really wish I had done is I wish I had just been like, I loved your work in Along Came Polly. Like that's the one like I so regret that I didn't go up and say to him like, tell me everything about every choice you made in Along Came Polly. Yeah. Or it's like, hey, people say I remind them of your character in Boogie Nights. That's who people think I am. Russell, what about you?

[18:31]What are all the famous people you've met? I've got a couple. The one I've had most recently And Russell, can I just say this? Yeah. We don't all know the Timberwolves dancers, okay? That's only famous for some people. Well, let's just say, what if your upstairs tenant has started going to the Lifetime Fitness at the Target Center and they say, they ran into Timberwolves dancers at the club? Oh, wow. Is there a risk there? I mean, it seems like, yeah, you're going to have to figure out some logistics.

[19:00]What if you saw a crunch go by the area where you do crunches and say, no thanks? That would be ironic. Ironic. I've got three that jump out. The one that was most recent, I think I told you guys about this. I was at a conference and one of the kind of speakers that was there kind of doing some investment stuff was Ron Artest or MetaWolf. Oh, that's a good one. And I hung out with him and probably like seven, eight people. We had cigars, sat around a fire one night, so I sat with him for probably like two hours. He was a really nice guy,

[19:30]chatted basketball if you wanted, but talked other things. So were you at all, were you at all tempted, Russell, to hurl a cup with ice at him? Did that cross your mind at all? No, but I did ask, we did talk a little bit of basketball stuff, but you kind of try to lean off that like he's not there for basketball. You kind of try to, you know, kind of like you were saying earlier, Rob, you try to avoid just, you know, being a fan or I don't know how you put it, but there was a guy there, I think I told you guys this once, that asked him, well, like he was asking like, well, what was the hardest part of your career?

[20:00]And he said, well, it's when I got suspended for a year. And the guy goes, well, what'd you get suspended for? Oh, geez. And because this guy's clearly not a sports fan. And he goes, well, I got in a fight. And I'm like, yeah, you got in a fucking fight. You got in the biggest brawl of the history of sports. The most famous, right? Sports, yeah. He's in a sports fight that's so big. Yeah. That if you say three words, you know exactly what you're talking about. No, four words, right? Ultimate squirt two. If you say, little dick Nick the quidditch dipshit, you know exactly what fight he was in.

[20:30]Really, if you say malice at the palace, everybody knows what that is. There's no other sports fight that's like that, right? Well, not the guy who asked him. So that got a little bit weird. That's uncomfortable. Maybe Nolan Ryan. That's the only other one I can think of. But he was a really nice guy. The other ones that'll jump out. Matt, I don't know if you would have been there or not, but John from Edina. I don't know if this is his wife now or not. I just didn't talk to me for 20 years, but probably about 16, 17 years ago, a bunch of us went out on New Year's Eve and I believe it was to his wife

[21:01]or at the time, girlfriends, friends. And there was a party with like 25 people there. And Doug Chapman, former Viking running back was there and we played him in beer pong. Oh, wow. Wow. That man had some biceps, right? Maybe his triceps were bigger. That dude had some arms. Wow. That's weird because Russell's partner was Ampley. We started playing darts. Scotty Graham showed up

[21:30]for darts later on. Leroy Horde. If you need three yards, he'll get you three yards. If you need one yard, get you three yards. Isn't that the way it goes or something like that? Yeah, that's exactly it. Can I hang out with you guys a little bit? David Palmer is my ride. Yes. That's a good one. Number 20. 22, right? Yep. You know it. You know it. The other one I had was a sports one and this was actually the day after Rob's wedding, I believe. Rob's wedding, I think the reception was at St. Paul or somewhere in Minneapolis

[22:00]or St. Paul, Rob, right? Yeah, somewhere. Who knows? It was in St. Paul, I think. But at this wedding, a bunch of us went back to this hotel afterwards. People were drinking, having fun and the pleasure principal actually was out and he had taken his shirt off, wearing a tie with just like an undershirt. He almost got me in a fight, which again, this one was not my fault either. But he tied one on pretty hard that night and couldn't show the next day, but we had amazing twins tickets

[22:30]behind home plate. One of our friends who worked for the twins got us like backs, you know, we could go back, walk back in the office and everything. So the pleasure principal was sick in the car on the way home and had to vomit into an algae bottle while I drove his car. Wow. But that's not the point. Big mouth or little mouth one? It was a big mouth one. That's good. Thank goodness. So anyways, he decides he cannot go to the twins game that day. We're in the baseball playoffs right now. It was Johan Santana versus Pedro Martinez at the Metrodome.

[23:00]And he couldn't go. And after the game, our buddy who worked for the twins took us in back. We were walking around and Harmon Killebrew was there. He introduced us to Harmon Killebrew. We talked to Harmon Killebrew for five, 10 minutes. It was really cool. You know what I thought you were going to say for sure, Russell? What's that? It was going to be that little guy. They used to hang out with Pedro Martinez. You know the guy I'm talking about? Hold on. Let me pull it up. I have it right here. Is it the little guy? Just give me a second. Let me. I got it. Is it a little quick hit?

[23:30]Nick, the big shit? Is that it? No. Do you guys know the guy I'm talking about that Pedro Martinez was just with all the time? Okay. I got to look this up. Pedro Martinez. I thought it was for sure. Little guy. No, this is going to come up. Now, I do want to point out I spelled Martinez M-I-R-T-I-U-N-W-Z-E. Martinez. And it's still going to come up. There it is. Nailed it. Nope. See, there he is. This guy.

[24:00]Remember this guy? He's holding them up. He's got the beer goggles on. He's holding them up. I had no idea who that is. Russell. Nelson de la Rosa. Nelson de la Rosa. Let's speak his name. Russell. That is a great person to meet. Now, I will say after my wedding, I will say after my wedding, a number of people were very drunk. And I knew this because we had a little brunch afterwards for just the family and like my nieces and nephews and kind of people. And we go out and it's right by the pool, right? Well, as I go down to the pool, I start to notice there are a number of Coors Light scans all over by the side of the pool.

[24:31]Just all over the place. And I was like, huh. Huh. I wonder. This seems like a weird coincidence. And then we go and sit down at our table and there's one person in the hot tub with their head face down and they look like they're about to die. And it was Joe from Woodbury. He was just in the hot tub. So, of course, he had played quarterback with me. So my parents knew exactly who he was. He looked like a piece of beef and stew just sitting in the hot tub like gray and just looked like it. And I was like, oh, my God.

[25:00]Meanwhile, I was hungover but because we had eaten too much cake, we had taken all the cakes back to our room and instead of having like post-marital sex, I ate a ton of cake and then I was like, this is terrible. I got to go to bed. And my wife was like, I guess this is the future. I guess this is it. Like, this is what I get. Meanwhile, meanwhile, I will say, I will say this. She had stuffed a caramel down her bra at the beginning of the night that she wanted to eat earlier. So as she is, you know, sexually, oh, the track lady came back on. The track lady came back on.

[25:30]I'm shy. It's freaky, isn't it? It's terrifying. She stuck a caramel down her bra. So it's like, you know, wedding night. It's like, hey, for the first time, I'm going to get to see nipples. You know, something we talked about last week. And she takes off this dress and her bra has a giant brown spot right in the front. And then I started to eat cake and I was like, this night is a bust. Forget about it. We don't eat it. And I was like, that was a rough night. And then I went down and I saw Joe and I was like, actually, my night wasn't so bad. It seems fine. You know what? I've been to weddings too where they do this, Rob,

[26:00]like you did, where there's the brunch the next morning. I think it's the most selfish thing that bride, the grooms and brides do is make people stick around for another day and like, oh, you've got to come to this brunch. You're super hungover. We've got to hang out with you a little bit more. We didn't have enough time over the like, what the fuck? People go home, right? With this, with this ring I wed, little dick Nick, the quit hit dipshit. I cannot say it. What's the quit? Yeah, quit hit. What are you saying? Quick hit dipshit. It's time for little dick Nick,

[26:30]the quick hit dipshit. Okay, I can say it. Okay. Yeah, you're good, Aaron. You should be, you should read audio books. Speaking of Aaron, rolling on Aaron, how's it going with you? It's going great. I've been thinking about time and life as a concept. Yeah, it's not real. Yeah, it's straight. I've been thinking about how things kind of go in cycles and I remember I don't like Lance Armstrong. Yeah, just like Lance Armstrong. Shout out, Tati Pagacar won his fifth monument today at Lombardia.

[27:00]Third, third one in a row. Like what a phenom that guy is. He's only 25. He's already got five monuments. Aaron, you don't need to explain this to us, okay? We're not dummies. But I was, I've been thinking about how, so I don't, you know, I know we've already done like tell old college stories, but I've been thinking about how similar being a first grade dad is to like freshman year of college because freshman year of college, Russell and I ended up with just like, just a unpredictable group of like a group of dudes

[27:30]hanging out who you would never have put together in any other fashion. But because we're there all living in the same dorm freshman year and we don't know how to find anyone to buy us beer, we just end up with like the weirdest group of dudes thrown together. Now, can I ask you one question, Aaron? You know, I hate to interrupt. I hate to interrupt on the show, but just the worst. Was there one, because this seemed to be true of every group in a dorm. Was there a knife guy there? A guy who had a number of knives in his room for some reason. There is always

[28:01]a knife guy. Chris from Lake Oswego. Yeah, Chris from Lake Oswego was the knife guy on my birthday. They got me a cake on my birthday and then he comes in and we're like, oh, we don't have any knives. He goes, I got a knife. And he comes down with like a big ass scary bogey knife. Yeah. So yes, there was a knife guy. So the first great dad, so I've, I now, a couple weeks in a row have gone to trivia on Tuesday night and there's nothing, Rob, like I think about you every time it's like 5, 530

[28:30]and that there's like a small-ish text chain now just like dudes, I don't even know, like dudes whose numbers are just now in my phone. Like I don't even know who they are. But that little red, that little flare goes up like, who's in for trivia tonight? And as soon as one guy's like in, and he's like, like dads, doesn't matter. Like you're like, I don't know who the rest of these guys are, but yeah, I'm off of bedtime duty tonight. I'm going for trivia. So you end up there with just like dudes you've never met before, but all of a sudden we're on the same trivia team. It's all good. It's just like, well, oh, you're leaving for dinner at the same time at the calf. Yep. Guess we're friends now.

[29:00]So it's just like life comes full circle. The next question is this famous woman's shoe. Aaron's like, Libetan, Libetan, Libetan, I know it. The dad's like, but I also, I sent you guys a text. I was really kicking myself because I, we, there's a music round and I usually dominate the music round and this week I missed three songs. One of which was the great Napster Winamp classic. She fucking hates me by puddle of mud and how I missed that one. I was so frustrated. She fucking hates me.

[29:30]What? I've never heard this. Now I do spell puddle of mud with two D's so I know that. She fucking hates me. I mean, this was on the Winamp for sure and I missed it at trivia. I was so kicking myself. This is in the phylum of songs that Russ likes where it's like self-hate where it's like this, I hate everything by George, what's that song? More like

[30:04]I'm an asshole. Dennis Leary. Dennis Leary. That's right up my, I love George Strait. I hate everything. These songs are all, I love them. Yeah, I was the inspiration for Pile of Shit 2 Yahoo name right here. Yeah, I know I heard this in Russell's room so many times. I got to say, if you would have said this is the same band that did Mary Moon, I would have said, you got to get to the chorus there. Yeah, go ahead. 13, 3.2 seconds.

[30:30]I always do that, don't I? Just, she fucking hates me. Yeah. So good. So I was sad to miss that one, but that's what's up with me. How's it rolling going with Russell? Rolling going, things are going well. I actually went to a, a block party today. It's at Burrow. It's a kind of a restaurant in, in the North Loop area. And they had five bands. It was called the Burrow Block Party there. And I went and saw a band and they were really good, but I was realizing

[31:01]some things about block parties that I really enjoyed. The first thing I really enjoyed is it wasn't too crowded. The idea of like going and watching a band and you can kind of maneuver and see really well. You can, if, if your, your block party goer wants to dance a little bit, they're not going to get in anyone's way. Like, is there anything better than a block party that is not overly crowded? Right. It's like, that's like going to a show where you can like sit down and enjoy it, right? Yes. Yeah. I went to one

[31:31]and you know who was standing, I couldn't even see the band, you know, standing in front of me. Little Dick Nick and the Dick Shit guy. No, I can see over Little Dick Nick and the Quick Hit Dip Shit. Okay. The person saying, Nailed it. The person standing in front of me was Dikembe Mutombo. And I was like, wow, this really is a block party. And then you know what he turned to me and said? Who wants to fuck the house of Mutombo? Who wants to sex Mutombo? Who wants to sex Mutombo? Who wants to sex Mutombo? For those of you

[32:00]who aren't 40 year old men, the reason that is funny is that one time Mutombo stood up in the club. Now this is Dikembe Mutombo, a famous NBA basketball player who's very, very tall and his voice is loud. He's now great humanitarian and generally respectable dude. He has a very distinct voice and to hear him stand up and say, who wants to sex Mutombo would probably be the highlight of my entire life. It's so good. Who wants to sex the Big Dick Nick and the Quick Hit Shit?

[32:31]The other thing I loved about this block party and this band, they had a female lead singer, full band, probably five members of the band. You know what I love about this? What I love about a band is when the drummer is smiling the whole time and having fun. Oh, I like that. When the band is having fun, that makes you have fun, doesn't it? Yeah, I like it. This is like last week you talked about comics being down on themselves. That's why it's like if you're not having a good time, the people aren't going to have a good time. The drummer especially though,

[33:00]I often look to the drummer to get the general vibe of the band. I think that's a good way to tell Russell. I think that's brilliant. The Russell theory. I love it. The two songs that I enjoyed most from this band, there was a hip hop group that played later that was really good. It was called Nerdy. I don't know if you guys have heard of this group before. N-E-R-D? You know what I'm at or no? No, no, it's the dude. He's the Minneapolis guy, right? Yeah, it was really fantastic. He's on, God, I think he just had his set. I think the Minnesota Orchestra or Minneapolis, some orchestra just played a bunch of his songs

[33:31]and he was there singing with the orchestra, I think. But not like the Neptune's N-E-R-D? Not the Neptune's. Nope, I was wrong. Nope, so like, yeah, let's see. I'm trying to, I'm trying to, so I don't know if this guy's name is Nerdy and then he was playing with another band. I had the band written down. N-U-R-D. Yeah, N-U-R-D, but he was playing with the Freaky Neighbor Spider Band was playing with them and he had other members of the band come up and they would sing their own songs that obviously they're working on. He stayed up on stage saying backup for the other people.

[34:00]I love that. I don't like, you guys know I don't like when the lead singer leaves when the other people are performing, so I like that as well. Russell, I just got to tell you because this sounds like this would be right up your alley. Nerdy with the Minnesota Orchestra April 5th and 6th of 2024. He's playing with the Minnesota Orchestra April 5th and 6th of 2024. Hey, what's your friend Matt out? What's his name? Ben? Who? Your friend who's listening to the recommendations. You guys should check that out.

[34:31]Yeah. But here were the two songs that were from the band before Nerdy that played. I forgot this band's name, but a female lead singer. She was very good. The two songs that I enjoyed, the most, Earl Had to Die by the Chicks. Great song. And then the other one I really enjoyed was Skater Boy. Ooh, Avril Lavigne. Avril Lavigne. It was really good. People were into it. It was super fun. Yeah, fun tune. So those are some of the things I enjoyed about the block party, but one thing we have to do,

[35:00]we've skipped this a few weeks now, we have to go to the next part of the DVD tournament quick. These are all my DVDs. She won't let me move all of these. So I've got to take... All right, Russell, let's get into the DVD tournament. So we're in the other side of the Sweet 16. I think these might be some of our toughest matchups ever. So in the one region, the sports region,

[35:32]the first matchup is Major League versus Field of Dreams. Wow. Major League versus Field of Dreams. Now one has something I love which is movies where people choke on hot dogs. Yes. I got to go. I got to go Major League, Russell. I got to do it. It's too funny. Yeah, I mean, Major League is the one I've seen the most. I'm going to go with Major League. Field of Dreams is much more arty,

[36:00]artsy-fartsy as a better movie, but if I'm voting for what I'm going to keep as a movie of all time, I'm keeping Major League. Oh, I'm so glad. That's one of my number one all-time movies, so I'm glad you guys did not vote it out. Next up in the sports region is Slapshot versus The Sandlot. Oh, man. Wow. How do we get it here? Wow. You guys know me. You know I'm taking The Sandlot. That's not even close for me. I said it before. To me, The Sandlot is one of the all-time gross movies.

[36:30]Okay? It's one of those movies I just think is gross. I just don't like it. The CPR scene, it's just, it's a gross movie to me. Absolutely fair. So, Matt, it is up to you. What are we keeping, The Sandlot or the other movie? Slapshot. Oh, Slapshot. Slapshot's a top three sports movie of all time. Definitely keeping Slapshot. All right. Slapshot gets a two to one. I will say, though, Rob, I'm wondering if, part of the reason you don't like that is because that night in Vegas

[37:00]where I kept making you call me The Beast. The Beast. Quiet. Yes, Russell. That's why I get upset. You wake him up. You really like that other night where you made him put on the foil. Yeah. I was skating around in my underwear and Russell said nothing, so I don't even think he'd like Slapshot. All right. The last, the last region that we have to do tonight is the drama region. God, I made out of foil. It doesn't even make sense. The drama region, the first one is, I think, a pretty tough matchup. It's The Godfather versus Good Will Hunting. This is the dumbest show.

[37:31]Wow. This is crazy. This show is so stupid. How did we get here? It's wild. Okay. I mean, I got a different Godfather. I mean, it's so hard. If I was going to sit down and watch a movie, I'd watch Good Will Hunting, but if I got to pick one, it's The Godfather. Listen, guys. Okay. Let's just take back our answers. Let's not be so hasty. Are we saying The Godfather? It's not your fault. It's not your fault, Rob. Are we saying The Godfather because everyone says it's the greatest movie of all time? Like, are we watching The Godfather every year? Yeah.

[38:00]I haven't for a long time. One and two every year. Every year? Especially two. Every year. Dude, it's a great movie. I got to say, I haven't seen Good Will Hunting in a long time. I mean, there's some funny parts. That part, there's a part about his story hanging out with his dad. That was funny, but there's some parts of that movie. I don't know. Hey, Rob, do you like horse heads? How do you like them horse heads? Oh, my God. That is perfect. Okay, Russell. Because The Godfather's moving on. We'll say The Godfather just because otherwise we look stupid. Is that what you guys think, Matt and Aaron? Oh, I think The Godfather.

[38:31]Yeah, The Godfather. Yeah. All right. The last one, we've got kind of another gangster movie here, matchup. It's Goodfellas versus The Departed. Wow. Two Scorsese movies, right? Versus The Departed. I got to say, I don't know. I love The Departed. I think it's fun. It's like a gangster movie, but it comes with the quick 2000s pace. I love it. What do you guys think? I'm going Goodfellas. I mean,

[39:00]this is a tough choice, but I'm going to go Goodfellas. Yeah, this one's really close, but I'm Goodfellas too. Well, you guys Goodfellas advance. If Rob puts it up, we'll have confusion over the votes. And if not, those will advance. So at some point, at some point, we're doing like Slapshot versus The Godfather. We're down to eight. This is where this is going. We don't have to discuss them. I'll preview the final Elite Eight here. It's going to be Dumb and Dumber versus The Uncle Buck Great Outdoors two for one.

[39:30]Okay. You know what? Dumb and Dumber might end up taking on The Godfather at the end. Yes. That would be the greatest tournament ever. Rob, I think there's a good chance because I think the weakest region is the action, which is Fight Club versus Kill Bill. I agree. And then today, you guys have Major League versus Slapshot and Godfather Goodfellas. Those are the Elite Eight teams right now. Wow. This show is very stupid. Now, Russell, can I tell you the last results from the last show that we did,

[40:00]what they were? Oh, I didn't know we were looking at those still. Does this affect you? Now, I had to scroll past a bunch of pictures from what I've been posting lately for my Amazon account. Okay. I'll give you a hint. It comes with two keys. It's like, it's like Alicia and her twin sister comes in two keys. What about Bob? Lost to Dumb and Dumber, 75% to 25%. Okay. Wayne's World loses to Uncle Buck Great Outdoor Combo Pack, 61%. So the viewers agreed on that one. The viewers agreed with us. Karate Kid 1, 2, and 3 Combo

[40:31]loses to Fight Club. They agreed with you guys there, too. Kill Bill 1 beats Enter the Dragon 100% to 0. Oh, wow. Nothing? Now, do you want to see how many people actually voted on that? If it's one or more, I'm happy. Okay. Not going to talk about how many people voted on that. Don't need that information right now. Let's move it along. Roll it. Move it along. Bat rolling. How was it going with you? Good. I did meet one famous person one time.

[41:00]Richard Keel. Since you guys just skipped over me, I just thought I'd use my rolling goal. Appreciate your battle. Wow. You guys are the worst. I cannot. I cannot think of anybody famous really that I met. So, I don't know. I'm sure I have, but like the only famous story I got is when Sarah and I were on our honeymoon. We were in England and we were going to I think. Yeah. We were going to some some show and Richard Keel. I don't know if you guys know who Richard Keel is, but he was the boss

[41:30]in Happy Gilmore. Oh. Oh, okay. Mr. What's his name? The big tall guy, seven foot. I think he was in the James Bond film. Yeah, James Bond stuff. Yes. I remember this now. Yeah. And so, he could not have been us, but obviously he's huge in the parking lot. Yeah. Thanks for taking my line, Rob. Have we talked about this? No. No. We have, yes. I've heard about it, but keep going. Okay. So, went up to him, big dude. He's sitting on the edge

[42:00]of the aisle. I said, hey, do you think I could just take a picture with you? And he was very hesitant and he was like, oh, yeah, yeah, sure. I go, oh, I'm a huge Happy Gilmore fan. All my friends back and, the states are just going to love it. And he perked up then and so he took the picture and then as I'm walking away, he goes, hey, you can count on me meeting you in the parking lot. Oh my God. It was awesome. Wow. It was awesome. I saw him once, but I was playing Better Man on a guitar and he made no, he had no response to that.

[42:30]So that's on me. No response to that? Yeah. Yeah. That's on me. Yeah. So that's good. Is this guy not even a Pearl Jam fan? No. It's sad. The only thing down I have my list is I've been watching, a few new series and I think, you know, we used to talk about this a lot more like books and stuff we were watching and I think it would be interesting to hear what you guys are watching and reading and stuff a little bit more, but I watched the new David Beckham. It's like a four-part series. Have you guys? I've heard good things. You like it?

[43:00]It's awesome. He's a great guy and obviously it's like, you know, it's kind of like the Jordan and it's kind of all, you know, all these ones where the Florida football one, have you heard about that one? Yeah, I've heard about it. Well, like, that's awful. That's awful, you know, so it's all spun based on, you know, whoever is doing it or whatever, but David Beckham, Posh Spice seem like great people and so it was great. I got to ask, is this documentary done by David Beckham and Posh Spice? Because my kid is obsessed with the Kate Middleton one

[43:30]and it's so obvious that they are also producing the entire documentary where they're like, we tried to save so many orphans and the queen stepped on their head and it's like, well, what? I think it definitely is, but, I mean, they like bring in like his old manager when he was at Man U, you know, who basically like let him go and all this stuff. So they talked to him, so they talked to all these people and it seemed like it was a very therapeutic thing for David, but he had ran into some shit.

[44:00]I did love the Michael Jordan one where everybody was like, yeah, this guy's a real piece of shit sometimes and he was like, yep, that's me. I like that. I mean, that's a real piece of shit sometimes. Is that the greatest sports documentary of all time? That whole series, the Michael Jordan one? No, because When We Were Kings is better. Hoop Dreams, better. I still haven't seen Hoop Dreams. I gotta see that. It's on my plaques and I can't bring myself. I don't like sad stuff. Sad. Before we started recording tonight, I was coming downstairs

[44:30]and my block party goer, she was upstairs and she was going to watch this David Beckham documentary, Matt. And right before I came down, she explained to me, David Beckham is on my list. He is on my list. He's on my hall pass list just so you know. I saw a great comedian the other day who said his wife, his wife came up and said, okay, who's on your, your hall pass list or whatever. And so she's going through, I think she said Brad Pitt, you know, Stu, Stu's, Stu's brother, Stu's cousin or whatever. And so the guy says,

[45:02]you know, his wife says, very nice. Well, who's on your, who's on your list? He goes, oh, you know, Jenny next door. Well, you guys have lists like that, Rob, has your wife ever explained to you who's on her hall pass list? If she, if you cannot be dumb enough to fall for this ruse, this is a trick. They are trying to get you to admit something that you should never admit. You'd say, well, I can't even imagine. You'd say, you know, I just, who, well, who would it be?

[45:30]You know what I mean? Like it'd have to be somebody who's like you, who's like, you know, it reminds me of you. I mean, that's how I just think about you all the time. I could never be with anyone else. So, you know, I guess just be your mom. Maybe like that. That'd be it. Really? I better bing this and see if I can get any tips. Or your sister. I guess it could be like your sister. Aaron, Aaron, I was waiting for you to say. That's actually not a story. I was waiting for you to say. Aaron, you and your wife don't have a list like that?

[46:00]No, no. I just feel like that just leads to danger zone. Yeah. Bam? No. What? It's just dumb. No. Yeah. No. My wife is like, my wife is like, oh, hey, who would you let me have sex with? And I'm like, me? Me? How about that? Let's start there. Can I get on your list? Can I get on your Hull Pass list, please? It'd be great if I could be on that list. However I get on that list, let me know. Is Google Forms somewhere?

[46:32]Do I have to fill it out or what? Would it be a deal breaker if she bent it with Beckham or not? Oh, jeez. If you said to Jay, this is David Beckham, she'd be like, what? From man, you? She would never know. How much can he bench? How much can he squat? Yeah, if he can't squat 600, I'm not even looking. That would be a problem. If it was a powerlifting champion, I'd be in the closet with a video camera like, oh, God. How do you do that?

[47:00]It's right all the way past the hip crease. Yeah, wow. He's down. He put his balls all the way in that exhaust pipe. That's crazy. Was that this episode? I can't remember. I think it was the last one. Oh, no. That's all I had on my list. Rob, rolling, going. How's it going with you? In Memphis, powerlifting nationals. I'm down there. I lift. We go down to Beale Street. Right? Sunday night. Late Sunday night. One of the craziest places I've ever been. I sent you guys a picture. Were your feet on Beale Street? They were.

[47:30]So were they 10 feet off? 10 feet off. I was walking in Memphis. 100% for sure. Okay. Look in one bar. All these bars we pass by, there's like, we're trying to find our vibe, right? I look into one. It is almost totally empty except for a couple eating chicken fingers. And there is a 16-piece big band in there. These guys are just... And I was like, I cannot be the second couple that's going to listen to the big band. Because if it's not full,

[48:00]you just can't go in, right? Oh, I disagree. We finally... Well, we know. Russell, this was... I have to say, I did look to see if I could request a Venmo song because I wanted to play the song. I wanted to play the song. I wanted to play the song for a story, but couldn't do it. We go to a bar where there's a guitar, there's a blues guitarist or a bass player. And he's playing the blues with a piano player and a drummer. You know, Memphis, every bar has music blaring out of it. It's crazy. Russell, have you ever been to Beale Street? I have not. I've been to Nashville, but not Memphis. Russell, it would be like...

[48:30]Do you know why it would be like Greece if you went to Beale Street? Why? It would make you cream your jeans. Okay? You would love it so much. All right? So I'm sitting outside Jenny goes in to get drinks and she's going to, she's going to like, and I see her tip the bass player, right? So of course, who do I think of when I'm watching live music? I'm thinking about you guys. So what do I immediately do? Take out my phone and start videoing him from my outside seats.

[49:00]I take out my phone from my, start videoing him. He turns to me and points at me over the microphone to the full bar. He goes, no, no, no, you can't do that. An entire bar of 35 people or whatever turn and look at me and I just am like, oh no, I'm a piece of shit. You're that guy. Just, I'm that guy. I'm the, I just have the realization of like, oh no. You were just excited wanting to share with people. I was mortified.

[49:31]I was just like, and they kept kind of looking over their shoulder at me. Like I was like, they were somebody who scraped off their shoe and I was just like, my wife is in there. I thought she, she tipped you. So then I have to like go and I Venmo him like a big tip and I'm like, oh yeah, hey, it's a guy outside. And he's like, oh yeah. It was absolutely mortifying. Then afterwards, he came and walked around and put us on his Instagram live and he was so fucking annoying. I was so mad. I tipped him. I was like, God, he was like, hey, what's going on? I was like, he talked to us

[50:00]for like five minutes and it was like four and a half minutes too long. And he's like, he's like putting us on his Instagram live and I'm like, please leave us the fuck alone. Like this is not a reverse. He pulled a reverse live show on me. I came to see him do a live show. I'm not there to be in his live show. You know what I mean? Don't do that. He put a script on you. What if then, David Beckham pulled a reverse live show with you and Scary Spice? A reverse live show would be when the thunder crashes, a new mother dies and then they play in reverse and they come out and reverse it

[50:31]and they show you how good they are at it. A normal thing that happens at concerts. The placenta stays on the table. The placenta, the placenta picture is never sent to my sister as a joke. Jumps from the floor up onto the table. Oh, right. Now that would, you know what? Hey, somebody send me a YouTube video of placenta going backwards. I'd watch that. Reverse live, the flying placenta show. It's like that Ninja Turtle villain craying, right? Oh. Yeah. When you want to hear about the rain down the hall line.

[51:00]But you're just too lazy to look it up online. Is that Ninja Turtle this episode or the last week? I don't know. That's the last one, I think. Shredder. Shredder. I gave the baby nutrients shredder and now I'm no longer needed so I will fall to the floor. Shredder, what do I hear? It's a new mother crying. And that's the Crane Live mashup that everybody's been looking for. You didn't know you needed.

[51:30]Russell, the number one Crane Live mashup podcast. Cast of all time. We're going to have to put that right under our write-up. That doesn't get us over 300 downloads an episode? No. Right. There it is. Never going to get there. If you would have said to me that we'd have two episodes in a row where we talk about Crane, I would have said, of course. I'm amazed that hasn't happened earlier. Crane was actually quite a big part of my life growing up. Like if you said Crane, I know exactly what you're talking about. That's wild. It's like Madonna, one name.

[52:01]Listen, then afterwards we go to a karaoke bar. There's also a pool hall. Seal. We are shooting. We're shooting pool, the four of us, and also doing karaoke. So Jenny and I go do Love Shack. She can't sing. She's tone deaf. She's terrible. It's great. I've got a great Fred Schneider voice. It sounds, I love it. I think it's a great gag. We go back and I play pool. We played pool for, I bet, 45 minutes, an hour. And they even had those beads on the ceiling, you know, and I would move them back and forth.

[52:31]I don't know what they're for. Do you guys know what they're for in a pool hall? Like you move those beads. Do you know what I'm talking about? Beads on the ceiling? There's like on a wire, there's like a thing and you move them. I don't know what it's for. I know I wasn't doing it right, but I was like flicking it like I was official. I didn't sink one shot in 45 minutes. Not one. I did not hit a single ball in. Wait, that's, wow. No, I didn't. Not one. And I took every shot and it's not like we were sitting around playing slow. I missed every one. Oh. By the end,

[53:00]I was like, like it was not fun. It was like, it took one a good day of my life and I was like, wait, I'm terrible at this. Like it's awful. Sucking it, pooling in a bar with other people. That's, that's, that's about as bad as it gets when you're out doing bar type games, right? Like you're not very good at darts and as long as the darts are hitting the board. Yeah. You're fine. You just keep throwing them. But when you literally can't make a pool shot, that's rough. And, and you know who was next to us is a guy with like one of those finger sleeves over his finger and he had his own cue and he was like, and I was like,

[53:30]well, I'm not hitting balls over at this table, but I bet if I was playing for a hundred dollars a ball, I'd kick that guy's fucking ass. Let's get over there. You know what I mean? Just the obvious. Okay. You guys don't know how pool hustlers work. Have you ever seen that episode of Fresh Prince of Bel-Air? No. Wow. You're missing out. I've seen the hustler. No. 1962. You know what? We forgot to put the hustler in our DVD tournament. We might have to start that whole thing over. Oh, start it again. That's a great idea. Where is it going to be rated though? Where is it ranked?

[54:00]We'll have to look at the alphabetical order. It got beat by Wayne's World. It got beat by Wayne's World too. And I don't know that everyone on this, on this podcast decided to talk about one and a half hours in. A lot of people's girlfriends are at this show. All right. Let's talk about at Folsom Prison, 19, he wrote Folsom Prison Blues, Johnny Cash, in 1955. Right? And then kind of after the height of his career, he, I mean, watch the movie if you want to know what's going on. But basically, he got big into drugs. He got him under control.

[54:31]He was looking for a turnaround. And he said, I want to sing this song in a prison and tape it and make it into an album. Right? So he gets June Carter, Carl Perkins, and the Tennessee Three. He performs two shows at Folsom Prison on 1968. Okay? And then, basically, he did two shows in case one wasn't good. Turns out the second show sucked. He was too tired. Only two songs are off that second show. Stripes, and there's one other one. And then, all the other songs are off the first album.

[55:00]The live single of Folsom Prison Blues is a top 40 hit. And this was in, this was in 78, or 68. This is the first for him in four years. Hugh Cherry comes back out and says, listen, here comes Johnny Cash, but don't cheer for him until he comes out. Is that the single greatest MC move of all time? Like, they know how that's going to sound on the album. How good that's going to sound. Yeah, it makes the album, right? It really, like, makes the thing pop. It really,

[55:30]really does. Now, this album comes out, gets big for him. However, Senator Robert F. Kennedy is assassinated, so the radios say, oh, we can't play a song about shooting a man just to watch him die. The record company edits the song and sends it back out. They just, there's versions out, yeah, there's versions out there where they do not have those lyrics in the song. It's craziness. Now, at the 11th Grammy Award in 1969, he won the album for best album, he won the Grammy for best album notes,

[56:01]best album notes, like the writing in it, like that's a wild Grammy to actually, you can see it on the back of my album here, the notes. I don't know if you call this a note, but it's almost like a, it's very hard to read actually. It's like a letter from Johnny Cash on the back of the album. That's gotta be what wins it, right? I told you my kid got a CD and was like the monkey at the beginning of 2001. She didn't know how to open it, didn't know what to do with it. She was looking and she was, oh my God, Dad, under these, in the front, there's a note if you open it up. And I was like,

[56:30]yeah, I know, like that's what CDs are. And then she tried to open the back of the CD and I was like, don't, there's nothing there. It's not a, this is not an escape room. We don't have to pull that out. Hey Rob, I think he actually might be talking about one of those cock cages in the beginning of these notes here. Okay. The culture of a thousand years is shattered with the clanging of the cell door behind you. Isn't that it? Well, if it's behind you, Russell, you know you're in trouble. Life outside behind you immediately becomes unreal. You begin to not care

[57:01]that it exists. Now, all you have within you is the cell, is your bare animal instincts. Can I, can I ask you, is he kind of jail baiting here? No, I don't like that way that came out. I mean, is he pretending that he was, is prison baiting? It was, he pretending so much to be in prison and kind of like making a thing. I think it's a little bit of a, I think it's a little bit of an expansion on what he did. Like, I think he spent one night in jail for like drunkenness or something, right? Like it, it makes it seem like he's kind of a hardened criminal

[57:30]when I don't think that's really the case. Yeah. So I, like I, you know, I like everyone else in this podcast. I love Johnny Cash. I read his autobiography twice and then I read someone else's biography, biography of him and he's not telling any lies, but he's certainly, you know, if, if other people were telling grandiose stories about him, he wasn't necessarily saying those weren't true, right? Like he was okay with what this said about his image without it being all the way true. Let's get it.

[58:00]He's like, I mean, he's like he, he was as poor as pork gets growing up. And I mean, he's not like, did not come from any sort of privilege whatsoever. And I think that's where, you know, these are, some of these people are his people, you know, that are in these prison. So I think he sees a lot of where he could have been or family or people he's been around, you know, in some of these prisoners and stuff like that. So I agree with that. So this song, Folsom Prison Blues was off his first album

[58:31]in 1955, which is pretty crazy. It's a great song for a first album. Listen to this intro. I mean, iconic. Hello, I'm Johnny Cash. Got to make sure you drop that needle in the right spot. I was sitting with my, my, my, where did I go to today? It was a block party goer last night and she set that record up and hit it in the middle. The song like, nope, nope, got to rewind. It's got to hit before that opening. You got to hear it. Now, this song combines

[59:00]two things I love, a train song and a prison song. It's both. It's got that train beat. A lot of these songs are train songs where it sounds like a train in the background. That was their style, right? The Tennessee T. Yeah. Just like when you know your crab has gone, no, dungeon, nevermind, dark as a dungeon. No laughing there in the song, please. It's been recorded on O'Hell. It's been recorded on O'Hell. Oh, yeah.

[59:31]In a drunkard with his wife. Listen to this crescendo of cheering after he says it's been recorded. Like, I get a rush. The reason I put that is I get a rush every time I hear that of like these people realizing like, oh, we're going to be like in history. You know what I mean? Like, here are these people stuck in this prison and all of a sudden they're like, oh, everybody's going to hear my voice. Oh, so good. Next up, I still miss someone.

[60:01]Written by Johnny Cash. If you ever did get your iPhone 14 Max caught somewhere, would it be dark as a dungeon up in there, Rob? No. We've actually installed track lighting. Okay. It goes off once in a while. Sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes so, so bad. In fact, it does the opposite thing lighting is supposed to do. Now, can I tell you, Jimmy Buffett, four days after Johnny Cash passed away,

[60:31]Jimmy Buffett, Jimmy Buffett played that song as a tribute. Okay, so. And we all know a couple of weeks ago. Wait, who are we going to hear from here? A couple of weeks ago, somebody Hello? Passed away. Hello, Russell. I'm calling from the afterlife. Hey, Russell, it's me. It's Jimmy Buffett. Oh, Jimmy. I'm sorry you passed away. Thank you, Russell. I appreciate it. But, you know, Russell, there's one problem. What's that? When I passed away,

[61:01]I went straight to hell. And you know what? You know what? You know what I'm doing here, Russell? Wasting away? I have an office job that goes till 6 p.m. I have to be at the office every day until 6 p.m. Till 6? You get to work from home or no? No, I have to go to the office, Russell. And I don't get to leave till 6 and really it's 6.15 by the time I get out of parking. I mean, can you imagine for Jimmy Buffett? That would be hell. Are you kind of getting what this bit is? Maybe a little bit. Russell, you know, the other thing I went,

[61:31]I went, I went, I went after work, I go to the bar. What bar did you go to, Jimmy? Actually, well, actually, I'm not quite, I didn't plan enough to talk about that. But I went to the bar. You know what I ordered, Russell? You know what I ordered? Was it neon green yellow? Fish tacos. A margarita. And they had a margarita. They had a margarita. They did. They delivered it to me. They told me they didn't have any salt for the rim. No salt. Where's the salt? There's never any salt for the rim, Russell. Where is the goddamn salt? Russell, I'm Jimmy Buffett.

[62:00]I'm in hell. I don't know if you're quite picking up on this, what we're doing here, but this is, I'm Jimmy Buffett. We're in hell, so. Okay. Russell, you know, Matt or Eric, do you want to take over the other side of this? He's talking to you. I mean, he's talking to you, man. I'm not. Russell. You're on the phone. I can't even hear his side of the conversation. Russell, do you know anything else about Jimmy Buffett? Because I'm, even me, Jimmy Buffett, I'm having a little hard time remembering any other bit that we could do with this. I did read a great, his op-ed in the New York Times

[62:30]was great. When he, he had to flee Jamaica because the Jamaican government thought he was running weed, which he may have been. And when this, when this happened, Bono was on the plane with him. Like he had this private plane. He was just wild. Like his life was pretty wild. And you know, but you know what? He, they shot at his plane. They like filled it with bullet holes. They apologized to him. And in classic Jimmy Buffett fashion, he wrote a song about it. And do you know what this song is called? And this is not a joke. I swear to God, this is not a joke. Cheeseburger in Paradise.

[63:01]No. And I, and I know you want to say Jamaican jerk off and that's not the song. The song is actually called Jamaica Mistake-a. I mean, literally a genius. All right. So we're sorry that we, we're sorry that Russ wanted to set up this bit where we made fun of him. So that's, all right. See you everybody. I'm Jimmy Buffett. Hi Jimmy, thanks for calling. It's actually pronounced buffet. A lot of people didn't realize that. All right. Let's get back to this thing. Now I have to admit,

[63:30]I wrote down, I wrote down that bit. Worth it. It was good. Cocaine blues. Aaron turned me onto this song. Aaron, you remember when we heard this, where we became big fans of it or not? Yeah. I heard Hank three do it. Hank Williams do it on a late night show. I had never heard it before. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I hadn't heard it. I had, it was before I had heard Folsom Prison, the album, and that's where I heard it. This is an all time song, right? It's all time song. And Hank's cover is great too.

[64:00]Yeah. You've been talking about Matt. You were talking about what we're watching, what we're listening to, giving out recommendations. I have a recommendation for your friend, Ben. A few months ago, you guys, or it was probably almost a year ago. Now I went and saw the Folsom Prison experience where they do like the live show that is actually back and they're doing it again. Friday, January 12th at Alpen St. Cloud, the center for the arts, the Folsom Prison experiments experience. And then Saturday, January 13th, the Ames Center in Burnsville, Minnesota, Burnsville is just,

[64:30]South of what would it be? Matt, South of 494 by 20 minutes. Minnesota Valley. Yeah. That's where 35, 35 W connect. 35 W. Yeah, man, you cannot yawn audibly on the podcast. We just can't do it. We all got to ask the question. No, it's terrible. So I, I went to this and the pleasure principal took up this recommendation once and he went to it and had a great time. So someone go see,

[65:00]see this in Minnesota, the 12th of the 13th of January Folsom prison experience. You will have a great time. Russell, wait the sponsorship money. It's so great. Next up 25 minutes to go literal gallows humor. Now this song was included in a shell Silverstein book along with the long with the anaconda, the famous poem where somebody getting eaten by an anaconda wrote this. Yeah.

[65:30]He also wrote a one AM suit. Didn't he? He did. There's another one. He, you guys remember the song cover of a rolling stone. Yeah. That was shell Silverstein to Dr. Hook. Yes. The Dr. Hook song. Yeah. What a poll by Rob. Rob's smart. That's good. Awesome. Were you guys a bit bigger out light, the attic or where the sidewalk ends poem book where the, where the sidewalk ends? Probably sidewalk ends too, but I was a big giving tree fan. Oh,

[66:00]Oh, the one you didn't expect, but you know what was really in it. Russell were those scary books with the scary drawings in there. That's what I had hidden inside that I was really reading. Yeah. You take off the red scarf and her head falls off. Do you know the books I'm talking about with the scary drawings? I don't think so. Nightmares to tell in the dark. Is that what it is? Like these drawings. Remember this, this book? Oh, geez. I'm out. Huh? Trying to go to like that. They are scary. And it was a kid's book and you could just buy it at a book fair. Okay.

[66:30]I just wanted a poster of a Lamborghini and some scary stories. I didn't need that fucked up shit in my house. Okay. Just awesome. That was the only place Lamborghini sells posters. That book fairs. It's like, I'm getting a Lamborghini and I'm getting a fucking stealth bomber and I'm going to put that shit up in my house. It's going to be awesome. And then I go to college and I made stealth bomber poster and everyone else has like the pink Floyd butts. And I'm like, Oh, am I a child? I'm going to throw away this copy of the giving tree. I have. I don't remember if this was this episode or not, but I had a Godfather poster and I

[67:02]was like, Oh, I'm going to be cool and put up a poster of the Godfather. That's good. And then you're like, Oh, I should have framed this because now it's just silly putting to the wall. Well, yeah. Yeah. And the corners are all ripped because you had to move it a couple of times. Speaking of posters that had to be discarded when I moved in with the block party goer, I had to get rid of my Johnny Cash giving the middle finger poster. Wow. No, the whole thing. Jeez. It was time. I suppose. Russell,

[67:30]can I just tell you, this is a tip for all those married people out there. If you have a picture, let's say you have a picture from when your wife was pregnant and she was taking belly dancing classes. And let's say that picture is big. It's like 11 by 14 for some reason. And you went and got a professionally framed in a very large frame. So now you have this huge piece of art that is your wife pregnant in a belly dancing outfit, right? It's like a, it's like a class photo. She will not let you hang. No, listen to this. This is garbage. She will not let you hang this anywhere up in the apartment.

[68:03]So guess where I hung it, Russell, the bathroom. No, it's in my closet. When I move my clothes, I could see it back there. And it brings me joy every single day. The back of your closet is a place to put posters. Your wife won't let you put up. And that's a normal sense. I really like that move. That's a good move. Think about that. When that sentence comes out of my mouth, that's normal thing to say. Okay. Hiding posters that I'm hanging up. I like that move. Orange blossom, special, the fiddle players, anthem. And you realize when you hear this harmonica,

[68:30]it's like, yeah, I could use a fiddle instead of that harmonica sometimes. This voice. Yeah. You can hear the power in his voice with, you know, cause like sometimes it, I feels like it gets to the edge of what the recording equipment could for sure. But the other thing too, is, you know, people have long talked about his backup band, but you can't imagine a better combination of that spare musicality, with his booming voice.

[69:00]Like he didn't need a whole lot. You know, well, the real backup band was when he played this with the Muppets, Rob. I don't know if I gave you that clip. Johnny Cash performed orange blossom special with the Muppets. Oh, amazing. Now, Russell, are they all on a train? That's what I'm picturing. There's a train coming behind them. But right before this, he does do the duet. He does Jackson. He does Jackson, he does Jackson, he does Jackson. And he does Jackson. I don't know. I don't know. He does Jackson with his piggy, as well.

[69:30]Yep. True sign that you're a music legend. If you, you kill it with the Muppets, right? I will say if you saw a frog and a pig having sex in real life, you probably would think that's weird, right? Like that's not happening. And then a guy's hand was in behind each of them. And well, that's, I don't know what you're doing, Matt, but for my relationship, that's actually quite normal. It's on my hall pass. I said, my hall pass is your, your middle finger. And that's, speaking of finger,

[70:00]this is going to have to be bleeped out. I didn't bring this up, but this was a line in the movie Saturday night fever, which is kind of bad, but I kind of laughed. Like he's getting into the car and they like slammed the door and he goes, careful. You're going to hurt my finger. Oh yeah. Yeah. I was like, you gotta be shitting me, right? I already knew what you were going to say there. I was like, wow. Yeah. I was thinking to myself, Hey, we got a double. We're starting late. This Johnny Cash episode. We're starting late. We're starting late. We're starting late. We're starting late. I was like, we better try to do it real quick. Yeah.

[70:30]And then I saw the email that you sent me of songs that we're going to play today. And I was like, Oh, that is totally awesome. Russell last week sent me four songs this week. He sent me like 45 songs on an email. It was crazy. This side. Did you see this email, Aaron? You got all the songs that we're going to be playing. Look at that. It's crazy. I don't want to see. Well, I don't want to see Russell's list before the list. All right. Well, one of them, one of them was just that Muppet song. So, so I'm going to think about, oh, that's part of our bits.

[71:00]Rob might not be a good one, but it's part of it. Hey, even if the bits not good, even if the bits not good, you should try it out. And Russell, you know, if the bit doesn't work, you know, you know what you can do? Sometimes you extend it. You just make it longer. And pretty soon it gets long enough where it can't help, but be funny. If the bit don't fit, then you must go to a different bit. So in 1994, you guys know he was playing a show in Los Angeles. Guess who opened for him? It was Beck. Oh my God. Johnny Cash. Wow, my God. And actually, Beck and Johnny Cash kind of had a unique relationship.

[71:33]Beck played this song, Rowboat. Have you guys ever heard Rowboat before? I don't think so. Yeah. Row me to the show. You ever heard that? Oh, yeah, I've heard that one. Well, there was a guy who heard it. It was Johnny Cash. He covered it on the American Records album. So check out the Johnny Cash version. Wow. Rowboat, Row me to the show.

[72:03]Something about Johnny Cash's voice, it crushes, doesn't it? Well, I think Rick Rubin knew what was good about Johnny Cash on the Folsom album, and that's his voice is front and center. Like, put it up front. So I gave you another quick clip, Rob. You guys got to check out Johnny Cash talking about Beck and what he admired about Beck. Just like a quick 20 seconds. You got to listen to this. I swear to God, if this guy's trying to hone in on our podcast, I'm going to be so mad. Okay. This should be the number one Beck slash.

[72:30]What else are we a podcast of today? Dickie Nick Quick and the Quick Shit? No, we wrote something down. I thought that we were going to put into our search term, but yeah, you nailed it, Russell. I was so impressed with the way he could do Appalachian music. You know, Hillbilly? He's really good at it. And then his own songs. And I especially like Rowboat. It sounded like something I might have written. I might have done in the 60s. You know, I was going through some kind of weird times.

[73:04]So either way, the point is, he hears Beck, he covers Rowboat. So when it comes to inspiring Johnny Cash with Appalachian music, who does it better? Beck did it better. That's pretty awesome. That might be your best. That might be your best pull. Is that awesome or what? Yeah, that's great. That's incredible, Russell. That's great. Nice work. That was three songs. And Robin, it only took about a couple minutes. Russell, listen.

[73:31]Yeah. When you get, I'm not criticizing you, okay? And you shouldn't, it's, listen, we don't need to react to criticism in a negative way, okay? That's something I do. You don't have to. Okay, I'm trying to make a joke that I hate criticism, but it's coming off as me being an even bigger dick than when I criticized you doing all the work and sending me an email, which would be hard to do. Long Black Veil. One of the few songs that could be both a Johnny Cash song. And a Metallica song. Yeah, this is one of my favorites.

[74:01]Friends wide. Did I hear somebody applaud? The gallows humor is great. You know that he's done that joke. He's just the perfect showman. This is a guy who's been on the road. He's done all the small circuit stuff. He knows what he's doing with the crowd. He knows what he's doing with the crowd. He knows what he's doing with the crowd. He knows what he's doing with the crowd. He knows what he's doing with the crowd. He knows what he's doing with the crowd. He knows what he's doing with the crowd. He knows what he's doing with the crowd. He knows what he's doing with the crowd. He knows what he's doing with the crowd. He knows what he's doing with the crowd. He knows what he's doing with the crowd. They're right in his hand for this whole thing. Send a picture of mother.

[74:33]Can I tell you, I honestly picked the beginning of almost all these songs. Because to me, it's the most iconic part of every song. It's what I remember the most. I don't know. This album was just such a huge part of my life in my early 20s. Huge. Same. Yep. Now this one, probably the most famous song ever with this song. With this title, The Wall. Thank you.

[75:04]Strangest. It's fucking torture to sit here and try not to sing along with these two. It's so hard. It really is. I know this music so well, there's almost nothing to say about it for me. I think there's something about Johnny Cashberg. I think, Rob, you hit it with karaoke when we were younger, but it's kind of that baritone voice. You can get that voice without straining. You can kind of sing. You can learn the lyrics. This is as easy of an artist to sing as you can. To sing along with, right? And all the songs on this album are like three minutes long.

[75:30]You're chopping along and all of a sudden you're to the next song. It's brilliant. Dirty old egg-sucking dog. This was off his album called Everybody Loves a Nut, which of course made me think of Aaron. He's always saying that. Yep. Especially your car exhaust, right, Rob? If it could do that type of thing. Hey, Loves a Nut. This sounds like it could have been a Shel Silverstein song, too. We should get an electric car. I don't think so. I got a special relationship.

[76:02]Yeah. Flushed from the bathroom of your life. Now, Russell, I remember when we talked about this album once, you said there are some slow bits in the middle of this album that you do not remember. Is this what we're talking about here? Yeah, I think so. Are you retracting that statement? No, I think so. I think when you think of this album, you think of Folsom Prison Blues, you think of Cocaine Blues,

[76:30]25 Minutes of Gold. I still miss someone. You think of like five or six songs and there's some of these songs that are kind of, they drag a little bit. I like them, I enjoy them, but it's not as exciting as a lot of the album. It goes to show, no matter who it is, when you get to that point where the singer just takes out a guitar and starts singing to just you, you're like, no, want that whole band in here. We got to get this whole thing chugging, right? We need it to be cruising. That's what should be happening. Well, they get it cruising back with the next one. It's kind of like, it's like a wrestling match,

[77:01]John, for me, Dinah. They slow it down with a popcorn match and then they ramp it back up for the main events, right? Jackson reached number two on the charts with June Carter. Go comb your hair. What a line. Got the Grammy Award for Best Country in Western in 1968. Now, in the past, I've said if I could go back and see one historical lie, it would be a live concert. It would be live at the Fillmore with the Allman Brothers.

[77:34]Play Whipping Post. That one? Yeah, that one. But I don't know. When I put on this album, it made me so happy to hear it again. If you would have seen this live, you could have got one of those tattoos on your chest like Aaron's got. Right, the lady's feet. Oh, yes. Oh, God, you got me with my own joke, Aaron. You know. You know that's my Achilles heel. My own jokes. It gets me every time.

[78:00]Give my love to Rose. Please, won't you, mister? He actually re-recorded this in 2002 and got a Grammy for it. Now, that's baller. Guys, I got to take a piss. Give me one second. See, Rob? I don't know if he does extra. He does. This does slow down a little bit at points, though. That's Johnny K. She is, but... Yeah, no, it's true. Like, when we're sitting here listening to it now, like, okay, not everything is, like, rips.

[78:31]But you can play the... I mean, you can just put the album on and enjoy it. So, I have this one. I think I bought this in Nashville when I was in Nashville. I went to a record store in Nashville and bought five records. This was one of them. I think I got Code of Many Colors by Dolly Parton. Oh, great one. And I got a couple other ones. I can't remember. But then, Aaron, also, you sent me, for Christmas, when you're live from San Quentin. I sent you San Quentin, right? With Johnny Cash, yeah. Now, you guys just saw something,

[79:02]and I want to talk to you about this. The listeners at home, I had to go up and go to the bathroom during that song, which is why I played so long. It's come to my realization that we're an open-the-door-when-you're-peeing house. Is that happening with you guys? And you can be honest with me. I think you guys do a lot of nudity. There's, I think, a lot of stuff that's not happening in most house shows, Rob. I'm going to just give you a heads-up on that. Okay. Okay. So, that's a maybe from Russell. What about the rest of you guys? Number one, yes, for sure.

[79:31]Open. Thank you, Matt. See, Matt and I should get married. Matt and I are... We have three boys in my house, though, and just one female. She usually shuts the door. Yeah. In this house, the female is never shutting the door, ever. Even when sometimes there's kids' friends over, and they get mad at her for it. She has the door open all the time, to the point where now, I'll say to Amelia, hey, mom wants to talk to you. And she'll say, no, she doesn't. You're trying to get me to go see her when she's sitting on the toilet naked. Which is true. You guys know I have an obsession

[80:01]with that toilet naked thing. I used to take the photos. Still show up in the photo frame every once in a while. I've got to take them out of there. Everybody's singing happy birthday around the cake. They look over. It's a picture of my wife on the toilet going like this. No. I'm just not sure. Brings down the vibe a little bit. You're going to be glad this is where you went in this discussion. Hey, I love how this is cool, but the idea that they would have a cheat code and a cheat list. Oh, that's beyond ridiculous. I got stripes.

[80:32]We were talking. We've been talking a little bit about Johnny Cash and his vocals. He won best male vocal country performance for Wilson Prison Blues, the opening song. And he went 35 years later. He won best country vocal performance for Solitary Man. And then again, with Give My Love to Rose, on American Records, way later. So he's won this three times. He also won it for

[81:00]Boy Named Sue four times. So I thought we could do a quick list. We'll go quick. No, no, no. Russell, I want to hear all these songs. I want to hear them for a long time. I would never criticize having lots of music on a music podcast. That'd be crazy. I'd look like a real shithead. The list of the greatest male country vocal performances of all time. Wow. Of all time. Okay. All right. All of these songs won best Grammy, or best country performance. I'm excited. I'm excited to see what this goes. Russell, you know,

[81:30]do you know anyone who won the Grammy list more than I do? You know that's my jam. I love the Grammy list. Especially if this Grammy list turns into like the best of They Might Be Giants. Wow. Somehow. And then all songs that played backwards, but then we really just don't know what the list is. I could only find Jock Jams, the album, on one eBay site. I don't think they make it really. I saw it on one eBay site. But I haven't bought anything on eBay in a long time. Is that still a safe space to buy stuff?

[82:00]Yeah. Or champion sweatshirts. Yep. Yeah. You can still get stuff. Russell, I have to say too, there's one song where all of us were like, we've never heard this song before in our life. We've never heard it. And then when I pulled it to put it on the episode, it's the Mortal Kombat song. I heard that. I was like, we all know that song. We just didn't know what it was. Mortal Kombat. All right. First song is from 1966. This is Roger Miller, King of the Road. Oh, whoa. Great one. King of the Road.

[82:33]You got to appreciate this, Aaron. You're a singer, right? These are fantastic voices. I love this stuff. Yeah. I could listen to it all day. The phrasing's great. Like the one, you know. I'll tell you, this is, and the recording of this is so good. It's so clear. I have always loved this. He beat out Johnny Cash in 1965 with a song called Dang Me. He beat I Walk the Line

[83:00]by Cash. But he actually appeared on the Johnny Cash TV show and he played King of the Road with Johnny Cash. Check this out. Oh, fun. Very cool, huh? That's cool. Look at that. No, don't rustle. Okay. Don't rush this. I know you're trying to, you're trying to rush this. We're gonna, we're gonna sit in these songs, Russell. We're gonna listen to them for a while. The next song is from 1980.

[83:31]We were talking about this guy I think last week with the Bee Gees writing a song for him. This is Kenny Rogers, The Gambler. Great country voice. It's got that kind of gravel on the edge of it, but it's still a nice sweet voice. You know what was always fucked with this? People called Kenny Rogers The Gambler. The Gambler after this. And in fact, I think he had a TV show or something, right? Where he was a gambler.

[84:00]But you know who the gambler was? The guy next to him on the train. It's Stolen Valor. Kenny Rogers is a gambler or Stolen Valor. He was sitting next to the gambler. He's not the gambler. Now, I will say this, Russell. We got to the bottom of that. Kenny, Kenny Rogers. Well, wait till you hear this story because it's even better. I would say it's even better. My wife saw Kenny Rogers in Turkey in like 2002 on a college trip.

[84:30]He wasn't on the list, was he? That's how he came up with the name Kenny Rogers Roasters. I think this would be a tough thing if you're a celebrity because the group that she was with, believe it or not, was not maybe the most socially appropriate group. And one of them went up to Kenny Rogers in this bar and said,

[85:00]and I quote, are you Kenny Rogers? That would be tough to hear as Kenny Rogers, wouldn't it? Just to be Kenny Rogers and somebody's like, are you Kenny Rogers? Are you Kenny Rogers? I've always thought about that just devastated. It would just be like, oh, I thought I was famous enough, but I'm obviously not. They thought you were the former Tigers and Twins pitcher too, right? That would be the one Kenny Rogers. Russell would notice as the old Twins pitcher. No, I didn't cheat on you

[85:31]with that Kenny Rogers. I cheated on you with the other Kenny Rogers, the Twins pitcher. He had a good career for a guy with like not super lively stuff, you know, like probably that guy. We could not be talking, guys, we could not be talking about the pitchers Kenny Rogers on this podcast. I beg you. You know who did have super lively stuff? It was this guy, Doug Schlitz in Nashville. He wrote that song, The Gambler, and he was pitching it to all these artists. Another artist that he pitched it to who recorded it, before Kenny Rogers was Johnny Cash. Check this out. You gotta know

[86:00]when to hold them. Know when to hold them. Know when to walk away. There are these recordings where like Johnny just doesn't feel like he's, it's off to me. It's not there. When you, if you fast forward a little bit, Rob, a lot of people call this like spoken word. He's like barely been singing through part of this, but I never knew he recorded this. Did you guys? No, no idea. And when he finished speaking, he turned back toward the window.

[86:30]Just no effort, right? No, this is one where they're like, Johnny, do this. He's like, shit, I gotta go get high. All right, I'll do this real quick. All right, speaking of getting high, next song on the list is from 1982. This is Willie Nelson, Always On My Mind. Oh, great song. How have we not heard Willie on the list yet? Breath-taking, right? Yeah. Can I say, this is another Rob, classic karaoke track. I'll break this out every once in a while. Not a karaoke club.

[87:01]Not appropriate for a karaoke club, but. So eventually, he becomes the Highwayman, right? With Cash, Waylon Jennings, Chris Christopherson, Willie Nelson. They have, the Highwayman becomes the number one hit in 1985. Yep. And then, I don't know if you guys remember this, Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson did one of those VH1 storytelling albums, like the live album where they played back and forth. Do you remember this? I had the album one of my favorite albums. It's so good. I was going to recommend it at the end of this thing. It's such a good album. So I think, Rob,

[87:30]I gave you the Willie Nelson version where he's playing with Cash. I don't think Cash is singing on this, but you guys have to hear this is so good. If I made you feel second best. That almost makes you cry, doesn't it? Yeah, it's so good. They start this album with a version of both of them singing Riders in the Sky. Ghost Riders in the Sky. Ghost Riders in the Sky. So good. I was going to say Riders on the Storm, and I was picturing Johnny Cash playing like a keyboard, you know? You'd be like,

[88:03]wait, why is this a Johnny Cash? Okay. From 1985, this is Merle Haggart That's the Way Love Goes. Not the Janet Jackson one, right? That's the Way Love Goes. I'm back. That would be wild if those were the same song. Like, I wonder how many steps did you have to take to get from Merle to Janet? Probably Merle

[88:34]to one person to her brother and then her brother to her. Yeah, that might be it. One of the things I learned when I went to the Live at Folsom Prison experience, there was a person in the audience at San Quentin when Johnny Cash performed his first ever concert at a prison. In 1958, the person in the audience at that prison who had been arrested was Merle Haggart. He heard Johnny Cash play at San Quentin and was a huge inspiration for him.

[89:00]He said he had the right attitude. He chewed gum. He looked arrogant and flipped the bird to the guards. He did everything the prisoners wanted to do. He was a mean motherfucker from the South who was there because he loved us. When he walked away, everyone in that place had become a Johnny Cash fan and he ends up inspiring Merle Haggart. That's so cool, isn't it? Yeah, it's so, so good. All right, last song on the list is from 1981. This is George Jones. He stopped, loving her today. He's got such a unique voice, right?

[89:39]Do you guys, are you guys George Jones fans? I really wasn't, but I love him. Guys, should I be making a Pandora station of songs like this? These are strictly my jam. I love all these songs. Country vocal performances, right? Oh, Rob, if you have to ask, the answer is yes. Definitely. I mean, it sounds like some crazy Travis might come up on this list. No cost to you to make a Pandora station, right? I mean, you can make

[90:01]as many as you want? Wait. How does that work? No, it charges me every time, but I have to send it via Zelle to some guy in Romania. He says his name is Nick Pandora. He says his name is Quick Dick Nick and the little hip shit. Pandora.scam? Am I at the right site? Johnny Cash covered He Stopped Loving Her Today, but Johnny Cash also, both him and George Jones, got arrested for one night. And so because of that, they recorded a song together. They recorded this song

[90:30]we were just listening to, I Got Stripes Together. And it didn't come out for 20 years and then they released it. Check this out. Oh my God. Stripes around my shoulders And them chains, them chains They're about to drag us down This is amazing. Johnny Cash, all these country stars. I can't get enough of it. You know who hates that song, I Got Stripes, more than anybody else? Who's that? Gizmo. That was another Because when Stripes around, I mean those gremlins are causing so much trouble.

[91:01]Oh man, forget about it. Oh yeah. Wow. Great list, Russell. Great country vocal performances. Other country singers all day. You guys don't want to talk more about gremlins? You know I've got a good gremlins bit saved up. I'm ready to do it. I have never seen gremlins, so I don't know what you're talking about. My gosh. We should get together one night and watch Friends and Gremlins together. Oh. Oh my God. I want it. Can you guys just take a picture of that? We could put it on the Instagram or do like a live stream.

[91:30]Do an Instagram live stream. I know a ton of people who want to see that. I'll bring my blanket over. We can just get on the couch, have some popcorn. It'll be good. Last up, Greystone Chapel. We just got to keep one foot on the floor. Wait, what about Greengrass of Home? Greengrass of Home. This is what I'm talking about. These last few songs are, they drag. Yeah, they definitely drag. But this one, now Greystone Chapel, Glenn Shirley wrote this song that Cash had heard the night before. Glenn Shirley was in the front row, did not know the song was going

[92:00]to be played. This was news to him. Yes. Absolutely unbelievable. Now, when Shirley got out of prison, Cash was there and picked him up and said, now I want you to be part of Cash's, my show, this Johnny Cash show. And then he threatened a number of the cast members and he was going to kill them. So Johnny Cash said, you can't be part of the show anymore. You got to go. Goodbye. Yeah. Not a happy ending to the Glenn Shirley story. Great song though. I mean, it's kind of up there

[92:31]with everything, right? Like, wash your hands, hold doors open, don't kill people. That's it. Yeah. I mean, it's just kind of a standard thing. I understand him getting fired from the show. It makes sense. Yeah. I'm trying to think if I would have to see HR. Probably. You know what I mean? Yeah. All right. So how are we going to transition

[93:00]from that? Is there another friends bit? Do I have another friends bits sitting around somewhere? That went over really well. You can count on me transitioning. You can count on me meeting you at the rating system at the end of this episode. Yeah. Yes. Tying it together. Russell, I don't care what these other guys say. You saved my bacon there. Thank you so much. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're very popular. Beck did it better. Rating system. And I want to be crystal clear. Russell can send me

[93:31]as many songs as he wants. I'm not mad. Okay? I'm not mad. It sounds worse when I say it out loud. Oh my God. That sounds terrible. I'm a monster. Listen, everybody. I'm just disappointed. Okay. Oh. Flashback. Listen. Okay? You could have at least had sex with the real Kenny Rogers, not the twins pitcher. Not the pitcher. Disappointed. I forgot he picked up the pitch for the twins at all. I think of him as a ranger. Maybe the Tigers too? Now, you know what? If Kenny Rogers,

[94:00]the pitcher, had kids over, you know what they would have to call him? What's that? Mr. Rogers. Okay. Let's be respectful. All right. Listen. You should see what he can do with his left hand. This is at one. This is at 164. Okay? We are trudging through the 160s here. 150s went so fast. 60s are slowing down a little bit. We're at 164. Is this album,

[94:30]does this deserve to be the 164th greatest album of all time according to the geniuses at Rolling Stone Magazine? Okay. If you think this is perfect, that's rolling well-toned. If you think, okay, this is better. All right? This should be way up on the list. Listen. It's hit after hit. I know every word. Do you know how much willpower it took to not play John Henry's Hammer? Do you know how good that I think that song is? I mean, it's one of my favorites. In fact, it's so good that I used it once for a work conference.

[95:00]Okay? And I played it in the background while I explained to people how AI is actually a good thing. Okay? And it actually helps teachers and they can do a lot of things. I see. I get it. You did a little callback. That's either a very smart bit or a very dumb bit. I'm not sure. Or is this a rolling groan? Okay? You did not like this album and it has nothing to do with the question. It's the quality of this episode. Okay? It's totally separate. You don't like the album. Okay? If you think it's a rolling groan, I'm just going to tell you right now

[95:30]you're a real piece of shit and I never want to talk to you again. But hey, don't let that influence you guys. What do you think? Rolling well-toned, rolling bone, or rolling groan? Matt, what do you think? I, you know, the fact that we've got one Johnny Cash album on this whole list is a little weird to me. Very shameful. You know, so I don't think this is the best album of his. You know, I don't know if I can name my favorite in order or anything like that. But you know,

[96:00]having a Johnny Cash, everybody, having Johnny Cash at 164 just feels like it should at least be in the top half. So I'm just going to say it's rolling well-toned here at 164. Russell, rolling well-toned, rolling groan, or rolling bone? It's kind of weird. We shit on compilations all the time on this, on this podcast. We say they shouldn't be on the list, but sometimes rules are made to be broken. And for me, the rules are made to be broken on this. This is an all-time album for me. I'm going to say it's rolling boned. It needs to be higher

[96:30]on the list. A few weeks ago, Matt was talking about pulp and that's the bellwether of where should this stuff be? You can't tell me that pulp should be ahead of At Folsom Prison by Johnny Cash. This is rolling boned. It should be higher on the list. Now, Russell, unfortunately, you did break the rules. Okay, you said they were made to be broken, but you did break them. So guess where you're going? You're going to put on these handcuffs. Okay, you're going right into the cell. All right, and you're going to stay here for a long time. I don't care if you are in heat. There's nothing we can do about that. All right? Oh, wow.

[97:00]You guys haven't seen Caged Prison Girls in Heat? It's a real movie. All right. I was going to say, who gets the two keys? Russell's like, a part of me is in jail every day. Yes. Wait, what? The glass case of emotion. Aaron, what do you think? Rolling well toned? You're going to solitary, buddy. I'm struggling a little bit. I've loved this album so much. Russell mentioned compilations and it does feel to me that whoever made

[97:32]the choices here could have actually chosen one or two fewer songs. I can't even believe I'm saying that. And I'm also shocked. Are none of the American recordings albums in the top 500? It feels like one of those should be in there. But all that said, it's Johnny Cash. We have to have Johnny Cash at least this high, if not higher, rolling mode. Aaron, I agree with you. I think I'm going to write an email to Rolling Stone magazine right now. Here we go. Dear Rolling Stone magazine, we noticed there's not enough Johnny Cash on your list. Please come out

[98:00]with a new list immediately. Okay? And switch a bunch of albums around and nobody will even care because nobody's devoted actually way more hours of their life than they have to a number of things. Signed, Rob Studd. Rob Studd, he does say in the back, he says on his liner notes, which won the Grammy, you sit on your cold steel mattress bunk and watch a cock wrote, which crawl out of and you don't kill it. If only everybody

[98:31]could have seen you look up from whatever you're reading, make eye contact with us and then go back. That was genius. We need to be on YouTube. You guys got to read this liner notes on the back. It's great. Oh, Russell. He's in the album corner big time. Russell, what do you think? Rolling Will Tone, Rolling Bone, or Rolling Grunt? I already rated this one. I think you're right. I remember that. That's no problem. Unfortunately, you guys are, yeah, unfortunately, you guys are incorrect. Aaron,

[99:00]if you have a problem and you can't control your laughing, I recommend this next joke, okay? This will stop most laughter. I can't believe I wrote this down as something to say. Now, listen, unfortunately, this gets a rolling prison. Prison? Okay. Prison. Yeah, not many people could go into a prison and sing a song about getting hanged and get applause. That's a prison revolution. Yeah. Maybe the prison revolution was, maybe, should we do an in-prison podcast episode? Should we ask them if we can get in there? Now, listen,

[99:30]a lot of our shirt money I have been donating to this for-profit prison corporation that Aaron recommended. Okay? I think this might work. Next up, okay, for the, for both of you still listening, this is an R.E.M., next up, we have an R.E.M. album. We have an R.E.M. album, okay, where, where the, the baby is, do you guys remember the show Dinosaurs? Okay, it was, don't hit the baby, don't hit the baby. It was a show,