R.E.M.: Murmur (1983)

[00:00]Hey, for four more dollars, for four more dollars a night, we can get the city view. Oh, man, I ain't looking at shit in Vegas. I'm going to be looking at some sporting events. I'm going to be looking at some blackjack tables or I'll be looking directly down in my bed as I stumble into the room and go to bed. That's it. Or maybe the frosted. That one time we had the frosted shower, man. You took a shower. I did look over there. And going to sleep like a baby with your butt up in the air. Yeah, that wasn't a city view. That was a splitty view because I saw your butt crack.

[00:33]And then there was that one time that Russell just hopped into your bed and goes, what's going on here? I was so drunk. This is not your room, man. I had no idea that was our room. Hey, when the boys are watching Draft Day, we all get in the bed and we watch Draft Day. That's the way it is. I literally think we laid there for like eight minutes before someone said something to me. All I know is I came back from that trip and I had a shirt that said in the MasterCard logo. It has the MasterCard. It has the MasterCard logo. And it says, sex with me, priceless.

[01:02]And I was like, when the fuck did I think this was a good purchase? And I realized it was me on the bed next to Matt. We were watching like a pop-up video and somebody was wearing that shirt. And I was like, goddamn, I need that shirt. Better order it. And of course, Matt said, I don't know if you should order that. What are you actually going to do? No, he didn't say that at all. He's like, hell yeah, order that shirt. Let's go. Joe officially has the torch of the drunkest dude ever on the Vegas strip the one night when I stayed in the room with him. I threatened to call his wife on him at one or two points. I was like, this is really bad.

[01:31]And this is coming from a guy that literally called us and said, I'm stuck in the casino and I can't get out. I'm so right. Where are you, Russ? Well, I see some, I see some slot machines and there's a sign that says tower, but I don't know what tower I'm in. They make those places look confusing. You can barely wheel your podcast equipment around. All right. You guys ready? 20, 20, four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums is decided by Rolling Stone magazine.

[02:04]This resulted in a tech chain that celebrated the music, excoriated the order and led us to making this podcast. We are far from experts. We promise to do almost no research. All opinions are our own. Unless you disagree, please sit back and enjoy Beck did it better. We are all the way up to album one 65. It does not seem like we're getting that much closer to 500. I just want to point that out. Like I thought by now, we would be somewhat closer.

[02:31]We don't seem to be at all, but let's not think about it. Point. There's not been a tipping point. No, no, we're still on the way up. Yeah. Speak for yourself. Yeah. Matt's screen went black. I said, we're just at one 65. How much time do we got to go over the tipping point? No, no, no. That drove that car over the bridge a long fucking time ago. Didn't. Yeah, I think so. I think we're going to finish before 2030, right? No. Are you going by military time? Emerson made it like six episodes.

[03:01]That's true. That's true. You know what? I think that's what we're doing though. We just pick up chunks of fan. Like there's a lot of women from the Minneapolis area. I have not heard from on the voicemail for quite some time. So I think we just pick up fans and then we drop some of them. We pick up fans. We drop some. Okay. And they never quite come back around. Who knows what it is, but we got some tried and true day ones. Got some in Iowa. Emerson can complete a hundred mile Peloton, right? But he can't stick with a podcast for a few months. I mean, talk to me about a lack of commitment. He's too busy. Oh, your podcast. It's too funny.

[03:30]And I fall off my bike. Yeah, right. And this is some in-depth jokes. If you know my cousin Emerson. All right. So, and from 1983, we have REM's debut album, Murmur. You know, guys, my mom, my mom, this is weird. In 1983, my mom was down in Athens, Georgia, and she was actually in the studio when they made this record. When they, when REM made Murmur, my mom was in the studio. Wow. Oh shit. Yeah. Yeah. She was. She actually, she had it.

[04:00]Well, she kind of, cause she had a job there cleaning up after them. So when, when they were making this album, Murmur, she was cleaning up in the studio after him. In fact, they said that she was the Murmur maid. Murmur maid? Murmur maid. Murmur maid. I'm a Murmur man. Murmur man, dad. Russell, does he, do you get the, I got no clue. Russell's totally backlit. I can't tell if he got that joke or not. All right. Let's turn on.

[04:30]Oh, uh, and you know what? Yeah. So here we're going to talk about REM, but let's turn on the, uh, let's turn on the radio. Okay. And just like these guys, you know, let's turn on a college radio today and see what's going on. Uh, let's turn on the radio and see what's playing. Welcome to K-Rob, K-R-O-B. You know, it's one thing when you dangle in front of us and you don't get to sleep on the whole bed, but then you won't talk about it. Oh yeah. Oh, Russell's life is different.

[05:04]It's all brand new with his roommates and all he has to adapt to. The TV's on every night. Oh no, he can't move out. He threw away most of his stuff. In bed.

[05:31]Russell only gets a corner. Russell has no room at night. He only gets a smidgen. He only gets to sleep on an inch or two, but by far the worst part about it. Oh no, he doesn't say too much. He won't talk about it with us. Russell doesn't get the bed when he's napping.

[06:04]His mattress doesn't feel like a queen. I think you should talk about it with us guys tonight. When you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time. Russell, a lot of the fans are asking, why is Russell not talking more about how much he doesn't get any space on the bed? A few more to talk about. Well, I think I've written three songs about it now.

[06:32]Yeah, they can just do what they want. I've got the perfect podcast for you, Jack. There has been a lot of vampire shows in the house going on recently, so we've transferred from zombie shows to vampires. Draculas? Vampires? Is that what they're called? Draculas? Vampires? Dracula was a vampire. Well, they're only Draculas if they went to medical school. Otherwise, they're just Aculas. Oh my God. Oh, yeah.

[07:00]They're not Draculas unless they've gone to Dan Putter. Isn't there some Doculas, too? It's like dental school graduates, Entis, that want to be called Dr. Entis. No, that's not funny. Here's my impression of a Dracula that's gone to medical school. I want to make you quit your job and move all over the country. All right. So that was a kind of inside joke. Russell, Russell, Russell, what's that? Russell, didn't you do a pretty, you do a pretty good impression of a doctor. Of a Dracula who went to dental school, right?

[07:31]Oh, no. I want to suck all your money out of your wallet. I want to give you, I want to give you treatments that are not necessary. That would be ironic, though. Well, you know what? The good thing is with a Dr. Acula, with a Dr. Acula dentist, you could at least go at night. You know what I mean? They wouldn't be open during the day. You'd be like, finally, I can get into this dentist. I can get into this office when I want.

[08:00]Do you guys want to go to the dentist at night? No. I'm always the first. I'm the first 7 a.m. Oh, that's sick. 7 a.m. That's sick, man. You just think I have like the hygienists in there. They're tired as shit. Like they're yawning. That's right. You know how quick they move? Because they don't want, they're like, oh, we got to get to the coffee. So they, yeah, they move fast. Oh, man. I like a, I like a 9 a.m. or like a 1045 and just walk out a couple of hours on my calendar. Like going to the dentist, you know, and then like grab some lunch after. Or go to the candy shop, something along those lines.

[08:31]Listen, you guys know I hate talking about this because I get in trouble every time. But I will say, I went again, no x-ray, and they're like, looking good. And I was like, I bet. I bet. I want to cause you as much pain as possible. And then act stupid and act like I have no clue why you're hurting. You know, we can see the tools you're putting in our mouth. We see that they're just metal and sharp. And then you're like, oh, it's so strange. Your gums are bleeding. Yeah, no shit. I've seen those movies.

[09:00]That's like a, this is something I would see in like a torture movie. You know what I mean? Where they're like, I can get this guy to talk. You think cavemen were in there with metal in their mouths? No. God damn. But they, we love them. All right. So let's, we are here talking about the 1983 Murmur. I mean, really, if you didn't do any dental care, you're like, how long is your life going to be shortened by it? Oh, no, it's a lot, Russell. A lot of research on this. Yeah, it's really, it's, you know. Yeah. A lot of research. A lot of research on, you know, your neurological health.

[09:30]I mean, this can affect infection, you know, all sorts of research out there about how much your dental health affects your outcomes. I heard that from my dentist, so. If you're Frenching your wife and she says, oh, you taste like Cheetos and you haven't eaten Cheetos for three days, that's bad. That's so bad. But if you have just eaten Cheetos and that's what she's into, then great. No. Cheetos for everyone. And I'll say this. That's what I, when you are dating somebody who's, you don't, you know, it's kind of a new dating thing.

[10:03]When you're Frenching, you don't taste a thing. That's one of the great things about dating somebody new. You never taste anything when you're Frenching. You've been with somebody for a little bit, you start Frenching, you're kind of like, I don't know, there's some stuff going on. You know what I mean? Like, it's a little too acidic or whatever, you know. Anyway. There's like a couple teeth brushings before you go out on like a first date, right? Yeah. You brush before you get in the shower. You brush after you get in the shower. You do a double check. Maybe go one more time around before you go out, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I'll, well, I tell you, I brush my teeth now.

[10:31]Maybe you lie down and brush. Maybe you brush standing up, depending on your style. First of all, I brush my teeth now when I go to jujitsu. Not before I like make out with my wife. I care more about the guys at jujitsu thinking I smell. Second of all, my wife now, twice in the last two weeks, has put a random cream onto her toothbrush and then brushed her teeth. And it's not toothpaste. Just twice. She came out the second time and I was like, well, I don't know what to tell you. I was like, I put your toothpaste in a bag.

[11:00]I don't know, like label it real bright. Like the second, the second time. And she was like, I brushed it for a long time before I realized it. I was like, what? What is going on here? Well, you're obviously not using that Tom's of Maine. You got to use the Tom's of Maine. Then there's no mistake. No mistake in that. I've been spreading that deodorant on her toothbrush like crazy. She hates it. Just kidding. It doesn't do anything. All right. I need more. We need more aluminum in there. This is. I'd love that aluminum. Listen, this is all getting cut because I don't want to get in trouble with my sister.

[11:32]Anyway, we are talking about REM's album Murmur. And I've got three guys here. And, you know, I was going to make a joke about Michael Stipe being in Gremlins. But I know none of you dumb shits have seen Gremlins. So you don't get that joke. You guys haven't seen anything. Russell, have you seen Gremlins? Never. Guys, I just want to call out to my listening audience out there. I'm on a podcast with three other guys who have never seen Gremlins. What the fuck am I supposed to talk about? What are you doing with your life, bro?

[12:00]I know I've made Gremlins jokes before. I know I have. Okay. I know I've talked about the dad coming down on the chimney and dying. And that's a story in the middle of Gremlins. That's weird. Do you remember getting a huge laugh on those jokes or not? Well, no, not really. Okay. But I will say in a movie where the Gremlin both has a gun and one gets pushed into a blender and blended up, the story she tells of her dad going down the chimney is a thousand times more disturbing than anything else. In the middle of a Christmas movie. It makes no sense. Guys, can you please watch Gremlins? I know you're not going to watch, but Russell, you did get tickets to RoboCop, right?

[12:32]Yeah. You guys, RoboCop is playing at the local movie theater here at the West End. I have to look it up somewhere in the middle of November, but if you go to the West End's movie website for the movie theater, RoboCop's playing. I'm going. I'll be there. Seven o'clock. Now, Russell, can I just say this? You should dress as Sting and see if anybody gets it. You know what I mean? If somebody gets it, be like, I guess we're best friends now. I've got Russell in Minneapolis. Russell, how are you doing?

[13:00]Rob, it is so much more attractive in the moral kiosk that is the strip club in Fort Pierre, South Dakota. Hey, if those are lyrics from this album, I don't know. It could be. It could not be. I have no idea. I heard one of you say, oh, this song's not on the album, actually. Yeah, no shit. I don't know any of these songs. I'm not going to do a parody song of some of these songs. Are you kidding me? Get out of here. Jesus. What are you going to do when we get to Automatic for the People? What are you going to do when we get to Automatic for the People? What are you going to do when we get to Automatic for the People? Then what are we going to do? I guess you can do Shiny Happy People. Yeah.

[13:30]Oh, yeah. I've got Matt in Minneapolis. Matt, how are you doing tonight? Good, Rob. The podcast listeners, you guys need to decide for yourself if this podcast is going to stay. Let's talk about R.E.M. Again, I have no idea. And I've got Aaron out in California. Now, Aaron, recently, I hate to say this, he was doing a second job working at the keyboard factory. But unfortunately, Aaron was fired from it. He wasn't putting in enough shifts. That's a good joke. Well, you only need the left ones. Nobody uses the right ones.

[14:00]I get it. I get it. I was thinking of a musical keyboard. Don't say you get it. Don't say that. I know you fucking get it. It's a good joke. There's nothing to get. It's just like the sun comes up, the sun goes down, shifts, factory. It's a good joke. I thought you were talking about a Casio keyboard. I was confused. Like a musical one. I was like, there's no shifts on it. Aaron's job is like, hey, does this thing play Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go when I press the demo button? He has a check. That's what the keyboard at my house played.

[14:31]Did you guys have a keyboard at your house? And what demo song did it play? Yeah, fuck yeah. I don't think it had any real songs. I don't think there was any licensing on mine, but it had the Calypso beat, right? Or the, it was like, oh, the reggae beat, the Calypso beat, whatever. Yep. And you're like, I love world music. Yeah. But the whole, well, that's a good segue, Rob, because not everyone can carry the weight of the world. So let's talk about R.E.M. Again, I definitely know that's from the album. Listen, let's not waste time. Let's get on to the Beck line.

[15:00]The freaks on the phone. The freaks. Won't leave me alone. All right. Now here's somebody we, I think we have a new caller this week. Oh, Brandon. Hey, this message is for the Beck line. I'm out in Napa Valley enjoying a fun trip. I saw Aaron out in California. It's great to see. Wait, I know this person. And I went to a vineyard called Cliff Lady Vineyards where they have a rock and roll theme. That's part of that theme. All of their blocks are great. The grapes are named after different rock and roll songs. So you've got Pinball Wizard, Hey Jude, I Can't Get No Satisfaction, Bohemian Rhapsody, and so on.

[15:35]You had Aaron's favorite, Hotel California, Matt's favorite, Intergalactic, and Rob's favorite by Genesis, Invisible Touch. Now my question for you guys is what they do with these wines is they blend the grape from each of the blocks and then they name the song after it. So for example, we had the Cliff Lady Dancing Heart Cabernet Sauvignon, which was a mix of grapes from the Dancing in the Dark. And the Closer to the Heart block.

[16:00]So Dancing Heart, Dancing in the Dark, Closer to the Heart. So my question is for you guys is if you were going to have a wine named after two words from your favorite rock songs, what would your wine be called? This is not Russ. Now see, that's the thing. It would be wild if Russ had called the bag line. That is wild. Now you have to think if that was Russ, and obviously it wasn't because they said it wasn't at the end. It's way too subdued. Yeah, that's right. He almost sounds like Russ. He almost sounds like Russ after touring wine places for three days.

[16:30]Here's the thing. Is that if that was Russ calling? Is that a new high or a new low for the podcast? I can't tell. It's such a fine line. It's a high. We're on a high. I think so. I think so for sure. I enjoy that person who sounds like Russ. And I also have to say that winery, that vineyard sounded like it was made for Russell. They're like, yeah, we're doing this shit with the names of the bands. Russell's like, goddamn, this is the most interesting thing I've ever seen. And they're like, really? Nobody's ever said that before. I got way more into grape grids than you could possibly imagine. I can imagine someone would, I would say.

[17:00]So, Russell, here's what I would say. If I had a wine from two rock and roll songs that I love, I would say Black Betty Davis Eyes. Oh, that's like a run on. Like you're combining them. I like it. I think it'd be so good. Whoa, Black Betty Davis Eyes. That would be a good wine, I bet. Oh, Kim Carnes. One of the women, one of the people in We Are The World. That you don't know who it is. You know when you watch We Are The World and you're like, well, I know fucking Dan Aykroyd.

[17:31]I don't know why he's there, but he's in the video. Dan Aykroyd's there. Is the main dude from Ram Jam in that one or not? Yeah, the main dude from Ram Jam. The main dude from Ram Jam is there. And then Michael Jackson obviously filmed it in his own location because he's only by himself in every shot. You know what I mean? And then you're like, you'll see somebody and be like, who the fuck is that? Then you look and it's like, oh, it's Kim Carnes from Betty Davis Eyes. Apparently that song was huge at the time. Aaron, what do you think? What would you name your wine? Well, I was going to say two of my favorite songs are When You Were Mine and Sweet Child of Mine.

[18:00]So I just call it Sweet Child of Mine. No, it doesn't work. I like Mine Mine. And then you could say Mine Mine Mining Disaster from 1947, my favorite Bee Gees song. But then I was thinking about Raspberry Beret and I want to dance with somebody. So maybe just go Wanna Raspberry and maybe it's got some raspberry notes to it. So I'm going to go Wanna Raspberry. There you go, I like that. Wait, yours is just what? Oh, I Wanna Raspberry. It's two words, right? I can only do two words. So, I mean, Wanna is even like, that's even questionable. But I'm going to go Wanna Raspberry. Wanna Raspberry. I like that one. Matt, what do you got?

[18:30]I always read your text messages wrong. Uh-oh. That's why I haven't done any research. So I'll just go with, I was going to say In Hiding by Pearl Jam and then Rocket by Smashing Pumpkins and try to come up with some phallic symbol of like rocket hiding or rocket in hiding. Rocket in hiding. Hiding my rocket or something like that. That's nice. I'll just go with that. How about that? I like it. Yeah. Matt had the whole thing ready to go. He was ready. He was ready to whine about the podcast. He's like, I don't get these podcasts. I misread this.

[19:01]I was ready to whine about the podcast. Okay. So listen, guys. Wait, what about Russell? What's Russell's? No. Oh, Russell, what was it? And I forgot, Russell, that that was, obviously you would have thought about this an equal amount of time that we did. You didn't think about this earlier. So let's hear it. I have seen the grid of all the grapes that they have here. And I had, I will tell you guys, if it were me there, I probably would have had to host explain to me like three to four times how to call it the grape grid.

[19:30]I was like, are these slabs or like, what are they acreage or what do you call the different? And she's like, no, you couldn't call them a grid or that's what I would assume they would say. But one of my favorites when I was looking at all the different ones in the grid would be dark side of my fire, dark side of the moon, light my fire into dark side of my fire. Yeah, I like it. Well, I do notice that that's not two words. Okay. So that kind of got thrown in my face earlier than the one that maybe you came up with. Now, what's crazy. Is that we got a second text. We got a text this week as well.

[20:00]And it relates to the voicemail. So check this out. Is it also from the Napa Valley? And actually this text came with a picture. So check this out. I walked outside and caught Russ calling the Beck line claiming it wasn't him. So now that's suspicious. When I got that text minutes after that call with a picture of somebody who looked a lot like Russell sitting in a tan chair in California. So how embarrassing. But you know what? Do you guys think it's appropriate to call like a radio talk show line while you're sitting at an outdoor veranda at a vineyard or not?

[20:33]A hundred percent. And I think you should airdrop that number to as many people as you can. They would love that. Well, I do know this was your, I mean, I had some, I have some inside information here. I know this was your second vineyard of the day. And on your, like once you hit your second wine tasting of the day, all bets are off at that point. If you're still standing, if you're still speaking, any phone calls you want to make are fair game. Yeah. Russell's out there like grape, grape, grape. It's a grid. It's called grape, grape, grape, grape, grape, grape. It's a grid.

[21:00]We don't care. Move along. Please. Are you spitting it in the bucket? It's time for. Hey, we got a non-bucket spitter over here. He's asking about the grape. Rolling going. You know what, Russell? Let's just get right to you. Do we really not have voicemails from anyone else? We only have not Russ. We only have not Russ. Russell, shut the fuck up right now. I got to get him. For two episodes. You know what? It's not my fault.

[21:30]It's the fucking fan's fault that we don't have enough voicemails. Okay? It's not my fault. I feel guilty and I shouldn't. Russell, go ahead. Gotcha. So rolling going. As you guys may have guessed, I spent the week out in Napa Valley and I did get to see Aaron at one point. So what I thought I could do is kind of, I was going to share with you guys the do's and don'ts of Napa Valley. This was my first ever trip to Napa. I like it. Maybe some of our listeners are at the point where they're thinking about maybe doing a trip to Napa Valley. And I thought I would give them some of my professional tips. Tips. All right. So I think when you say, I think when you say a do, I think that's obvious, you know,

[22:02]we've got one of these, no problem. And then when you say a don't, I've got to zap your cock cage. I think that's the, that's the key. So, all right, Russell. Maybe the first thing before we get into the do's and the don'ts, I should ask you guys, I know Aaron lives out there, but Rob or Matt, have you guys been to Napa Valley or wine country before? I just drove through it on our way back from Northern California. So we stopped at one vineyard. And didn't really experience the whole Napa thing, if you will, but just one time.

[22:32]I told Jenny, I was going to get, uh, take her out to Napa Valley, uh, and that I was going to do a trip. And we ended up driving to Napa and Apple Valley. So I needed, I needed a new muffler. I couldn't think of any other car parts to say. I said, muffler. I can't think of anything else. Hey, go Eagles. Let's import some more wrestlers to our team that don't live in the district. Right? No, come on. Did you get to do, did you get to do oral? Yeah. Did you get to do oral anyway, Rob, or is, does that only work here? No, she said, I, she claimed I taste like Buffalo Wild Wings dry.

[23:03]From the Apple Valley, from the Apple Valley, Buffalo Wild Wings. The only other thing I know about Apple Valley beat their ass in the playoffs, by the way, I can point that out. Go ahead, Russell. So the first do I was going to say, this is a do, do stay in downtown Napa. Downtown Napa has dozens of restaurants, dozens of tasting rooms, a bunch of little shops. If you're into that thing, it's a super cool vibe. And one of the things when I was reading about going to Napa Valley is you'd might

[23:30]not always be able to get Ubers. That's bullshit. You can get Ubers everywhere. No problem. You should stay in downtown Napa and have that be your home base. When you guys go to Napa, Aaron, what do you think of that strategy? I thought that was great. When you, when you told me you were staying there, I thought that sounded amazing. I think I've heard great things about downtown Napa. I personally have not stayed there, but now I want to. So I think it's a great strategy. Yeah. The next do, do take the wine train. They have a wine train that travels up through Napa Valley.

[24:00]You get on this train, they serve you drinks. They serve you like a four course meal over three hour ride. Would you guys ever do the wine train? I would do it with you guys. You would do it by yourself too, Aaron. What are you talking about? Of course you'd do the wine train. Yeah. Geez. The wine train by myself. Now you're talking. I mean, that sounds like my kids coming home on the subway. Wine train. I got to say, I do think a wine train. I love riding on trains. I really do. Yes. I'm sitting backwards. If I was on the wine train backwards, it would be a barf train.

[24:31]I would be barfing all over that train. What do you think, Matt? You going on the wine train? Probably. Yeah. I mean, especially if Russell's recommending it. Matt gets on the train and they're like, oh, welcome to the eating vegetables train. Matt's like, God damn it. Didn't read the sign. I hate this train. Jumping off. They actually do have two types of trains, which they didn't quite explain to you, but we found out when they gave us our bill halfway through, they have a dinner train and then they transfer you all to the dessert train.

[25:01]So you get to sit in like comfy chairs for dessert. They bring out coffee, desserts and all that stuff. Dinner, dessert train. It's great, right? Russell, I'm picturing, isn't it really two trains? Are you like jumping between the train? Like, holy shit, we got to jump over to the dessert train. Like Mission Impossible style. Like you got to show your, like you got to do a facial recognition to open the door and then jump on. I also got to give Rob props for his restraint and sophistication for playing the OJ's train. The train song and none of the other train choices he could have made. I was, I was thinking midnight train to Georgia.

[25:30]And then I was thinking, oh, what's the, uh, is it the 69 boys or whatever? Come on, right? Oh my God. That would have been a good one. My internet is so slow right now. So don't push me. The one thing I'll say, we've got another train one. While the do is a do, you definitely do ride the train. You do ride the three hour train. Do not ride the six hour train ride. Six hours on a train. We did the three hour ride. But there is a six hour option. And I will just say there may have been a train rider with me.

[26:00]That was definitely falling asleep on the train at about the two hour mark. So I think a six hour train ride is out. Now I have to ask this, Russell. If I was on a date on a train, every, every time the train went into a tunnel, I'd kind of give him a look like, Hey, what does this remind you of? You know what I mean? Like maybe did that happen at all? I don't think there were any tunnels, no tunnels. That sounds very familiar. All right.

[26:30]The next, the next tip for Napa Valley, do get brunch or breakfast before your wine tastings during the day. We went to Bouchon Bistro at one point. Aaron came and met us. They had some of the greatest croissants and macarons I've ever had in my life. And the other thing about going to grab something to eat in the morning, you need to take more of that and bring it with you because you are going to need carbs later in the day if you've gone to too many wineries. I can't have too many snacks. You cannot have too many. Are they serving food at a winery, Russell, or is it just wine?

[27:02]We went to five wineries. There were two, one that gave us a charcuterie board, but we didn't even expect it. There was another one that I was going to touch on in a bit where we specifically scheduled. It was a bacon pairing. So five glasses of wine with five different, you know, flavored seasoned pieces of bacon. But otherwise, I was not aware of any food at any of them. Aaron, I don't know if you've seen anything. Different, but no, no, it's pretty rare to have food you and you always schedule these things.

[27:30]They open at 10 or 11 a.m. So you go to the first one at 10, 11, 1130 and you think like, oh, we'll get lunch, you know, sometime. It's like Vegas. Time doesn't exist there. Pretty soon you're finishing up a tasting. You got to get to your next one and you go like, oh, well, didn't have lunch. Oh, well, we'll get something to snack on later. Nope. And then pretty soon you're at dinner at 7 p.m. And ordering another glass of wine and trying to figure out what the menu says. The next two on the adventure. Do meet with Aaron and Aaron's wife at gmail.com for an outdoor white wine tasting.

[28:02]Aaron and his wife are a great conversation. They have such a great energy. They added so much to our trip. If anyone's ever out in wine country, my penis. Make sure you hook up with Aaron and his wife. We had one. It was such a wonderful time. It was so cool that Russell for anyone else's penis. And it's like a traveler having a penis. I've always said, like, it's the greatest thing. I would compare it to my favorite chef's knife. Because I use it every day. We had such a nice time. That's why I'm going to start calling him a penis.

[28:31]All right. So, so now I've seen two out of four people on this podcast in California. Two out of four in this people of podcasts have seen Rob in New York. And somewhere like Rob and I are still, I mean, Rob does meet me more than halfway in Las Vegas. So I got, maybe it's my turn to go to New York. Yeah, I know. I'd love to come out to, I'd love to come out to Napa. I think that sounds super fun. I'd love to, you know what I'd love to do out there. I mean, honestly, I'd love to ride the train. I think that would be really fun. I'm just going to load up.

[29:01]You son of a bitch. Oh, come on. I'm on the wine train. Oh God. Oh, Russell. I don't think this is the wine train. Russell. I got on the bump and grind train. This is the wrong train. I'm bumping and grinding. As we know, Rob's favorite thing to do. Aaron, it's actually my two favorite things. Things to do. Bump and grind. Sometimes I give it just the bumps.

[29:31]Sometimes I just do the grinding. But sometimes I'm doing the bump and the grind. It's a good day. By the way, this version of the song is seven minutes and 30 seconds long. So we better just let it play. That's what I think. We'll just let it ride. It'll be interesting to hear what Aaron thinks about this. Aaron and his wife were a great time. They added so much to our day. I wish they could have spent the whole day with us. It was a ton of fun. There was a don't I will take from my experience with Aaron though. And that is, don't talk too much with your wine host because they may overtake your whole conversation

[30:02]and overwhelm what's going on and almost not ruin the experience but take away from your experience. There's a fine line of talking with your host. I don't think we overstepped it, but he definitely assumed we did. Because Aaron, what would you think? The guy wouldn't shut the fuck up, right? Yeah. I mean, you said it. Our host was very kind, but just trying a little too hard. And I think he was, I think if we had been there maybe an hour or two later when there were some other tables on the patio,

[30:31]he might've done okay, but he definitely thought it was his show. And yeah, a little too involved. So I didn't get as much time to talk with Russell and his wine taster as I would have hoped, but it didn't wreck the day for me. Still 10 out of 10, I'd do it again. Can I tell you what I would have said to this guy? And this is, you're going to get a 50-50 shot here. Hey, Rob, can I interrupt you? I did what you told me to. I went and spilled my drink and told him to clean that shit up. Oh God, I almost passed out. Oh my God, I almost passed out.

[31:00]You need to show your dominance. Hey, I pay your salary. You see these $5 bills here that are your tip? I'm taking one away. You just made a very strong enemy, my friend. I would say to him, I would say, hey, what do you think about the border down on the, the border crisis? You know what I mean? Like say stuff like that. Like, hey, do you think America's not great right now? Maybe we should do something about that. And I think that I have found that gets people to clear out. They do not want to do that. I don't want to discuss that stuff. We didn't try that one. I guess we, next time.

[31:30]I think that's a good one. Another thing I would say do about this. This was something I was Googling before. I'd never been to wine country. You don't really know. Do dress the way you want to Napa. Napa is super chill. You do not have to dress up to go to wineries. You could just show up wearing whatever you want, Rob. Your big daddy, hard daddy shirt. You could wear that. Yes. Your Carolina Panthers jersey. You could wear that. You can wear whatever you want in wine country. And that's kind of what, what makes it fun. Like there there's pretentious people with wine, but you kind of just go with your own flow.

[32:00]Right guys. Yeah. No dress code shorts. If you want, it's always hot there. If the sun's out at all, it's hot. Now, let me, let me ask you, could I wear my big Johnson's wine Napa Valley wine shirt? Okay. Is there a big Johnson wine shirt? Yeah. It's it's have a big corks. We'll screw. Oh, I can't. I got fired guys. Can I tell you something? This is so embarrassing. I actually got fired from the big Johnson's shirt company. What for? Oh, I would say stuff like only a man with a big pencil does his taxes.

[32:34]Maybe like, well, that's not really like that's the big, we get it, but it's not like what we're looking for. You know what I mean? Like we're looking for like, oh, we, you know, soccer players do it on the field for 45 minutes or whatever. And I'd be like, oh, okay. Stuff like that. Like, oh, big Johnson's big Johnson's like a STI tests. Yeah. You know, you, you probably don't have herpes on your big Johnson. And they're like, well, how did you, what you're bad at your job.

[33:02]So that's how I got, that's how, that's why I work at big dogs. Now. Do you, do you keep that on your LinkedIn profile, Rob? Like the eight months at big Johnson t-shirt writer or not? Yeah, I do. That's how I got hired at Spencer's. They hired me right in. Absolutely. I mean, look at now I'm looking at big Johnson shirts on eBay. Big Johnson's card and casino. I mean, obviously liquor up front poker in the rear. I mean, I think we all saw that coming right now. If you wanted this shirt.

[33:30]Oh, geez. Now here's something that's not going to shock you. Big Johnson shirts on eBay, only available with XL or double XL sizes. From what I've seen. And if guys in my high school are an indication, that is 100% correct. $40 pre-owned on eBay, $40 for a big Johnson shirt. Goodness gracious. Big Johnson's rednecks. Everyone's got a little redneck in them. How would you like a whole lot? See, I could have written that. I could have written that. Keep going, Russell. I just saw some big Johnson's shirts I cannot talk about.

[34:01]The next, this is a don't. This is a don't. This is a lesson of what not to do in wine country. As Aaron mentioned, we saw Aaron. We met up with him and his wife beforehand. We got a quick bite to eat. We went to our first tastings before noon. We did three tastings in the day. Do not, don't do three tastings and then expect to have any life at all at a dinner. I will say. One of the, one of the people at our dinner was about asleep and I may have been almost asleep as well. I like to have it be out.

[34:30]Only, if only we had a friend who I remember saying very clearly, clearly, do not do more than two wine tastings. You cannot do it. It will not work. Do not attempt it. Okay. So it seems like once again, maybe somebody says, oh, here's where you buy tickets, you know, at a stadium. Here's how many wine tastings you go to. And Russell kind of just blows through all those things. I'm starting. You know, Rosie, Russell, we take your headphones off real quick so we can talk. You know, okay.

[35:00]Talk about, you know, Russell loves to give the rest of us advice, but if we try to give him just a tiny bit of advice, he never listens. He's got to take the advice, right? That's right. He's got to take the advice. He's got to take the advice. We cannot, we cannot let his roommate know that you told him, Rosie, that only two tastings in one day. We just can't let that happen. Nobody can let that out. Can't let that cat out of the bag. Yeah. You know, what's really fucked up is I've never given him any good advice. That's why I've given him lots of advice.

[35:31]None of it has backfired. Russell, put your headphones back. All right. Russell, here we go. I like that man's signal. It's my favorite. Good thing I didn't listen to Matt because I heard every damn thing you guys said. I'm not taking that advice and taking my headphones out. Russell does what the fuck he wants. Russell's only taking one piece of advice for this podcast. Here's my next don't. The cheapest cock cage possible, please. Don't do this in Napa. Don't schedule tastings at tasting rooms that are in downtown areas.

[36:03]If you go to a tasting room in downtown areas, it's just like being in a bar. Oh, yeah, right. Like, if you can't see, like, out into the fields and into the wilderness and everything. Grape grape. It's just like being in an indoor bar. You might as well be in Minneapolis off like 66th and 35 or somewhere, Matt. It's like my dad always says. That's in Richfield. It's like my dad always says. If there ain't grape grids, it's horse shit. He also worked at Big Johnson shirts for a while.

[36:31]He wasn't very good either. That doesn't even rhyme. If I can't see the grapes reflected in my disco ball, then I don't want this anywhere near my balls. Let's see. Again, I also couldn't work for Big Johnson. Disco ball don't shine. We ain't 69. That was the title of a VHS tape in my basement. I never played. I was too scared. The next don't. Don't say anything negative about a wine at all. It just gets awkward, and there's no way to get out of it, right?

[37:02]Not awkward. Matt had mentioned before how he had once made a joke about, you know, do they just mix the two wines? They kind of got annoyed with him or whatever. But I was at this winery, Charles Krug winery, really fun, but they had a more pretentious style host, if you will. And he came out, and they gave us a few wines. The first two were awesome. The third one, it just wasn't my favorite. And I didn't say anything bad, but he asked what we thought of it. And I just said, oh, it wasn't my favorite. I liked the two other ones beforehand. And he kind of looked at me like, you know, well, fuck you then.

[37:33]You know, like, do they expect you to say great things about every wine or not? No, that's perfectly fine. If you mean you're just, hey, I like the other two better. How about I say this, zombie A, I get an always A. This guy doesn't know shit over here. You know what I mean? This is going to be one of my last show. This is. I think the most important tip I have for going to wine country. It's do know what you're looking for when you're going to wine country.

[38:02]Are you looking to go try good wine? Are you looking to sit outside and relax? Are you looking for like a super comfortable chair somewhere? What are you trying to get out of your wine tasting event? So I had a few different experiences. One with Aaron and his wife where we sat outside, had a beautiful view. The view is amazing. I sat at another one in these super comfortable chairs at a place which was super quiet and relaxed. And then I had a couple other ones where the wine may have been better. But like one of them, we were just standing up at a bar the whole time.

[38:31]Like that's not relaxing to me. Like, but the wine was better. So what would you guys want to do? More relaxing atmosphere and experience? Or do you want the better wine? Can I just tell you every time I go to a wine thing? Because I think as an adult, you just find yourself like, oh, I'm at a vineyard or I'm at a wine place where they have a wine cellar. Let's go down and do a tour. I know so much about wine for about, I would say anywhere from 45 minutes. To an hour and 20 minutes. And I feel like I'm a fucking genius on wine. I know all about it. I know about the, I know about the Biff Tannins.

[39:00]I mean, we haven't even brought up Biff Tannins yet. Honestly, which is embarrassing. Hey Rob, I got one more tip. Don't bring up Biff Tannins jokes in wine country. They're not appreciated. I always feel like I'm an expert for a while. And then like, like within two hours, all that knowledge has been erased from my brain. I think you got to go just for a chill atmosphere. And if it's good wine, great. Honestly, I couldn't tell you if it's great wine or good wine. It's all kind of similar. And I think that should be okay to say and not be treated like you're a big dumb guy who got fired from the big Johnson's shirt factory for trying to make that Biff Tannins

[39:33]shirt. Okay. Back to your, it was, it was just to let you guys know it was backdoor to her future. And that's the thing. It didn't even make sense. A lot of great wine in the world. We haven't run out yet. You can always find a good bottle of wine. You don't know for me, you don't know if a wine's good until you've had most or all of the bottle. And enjoyed it with some food and some people. So tasting wine is whatever, but if you can do it in a beautiful setting with people you

[40:00]enjoy, that's what's important. Well, we've talked enough about guys who've gotten fired from the big Johnson's store. Let's go to someone who had an illustrious career there. Matt, roll it, go on. How's it going with you? Good. Russell, Russell, I just want to say this 12 months in a row. I, I, I, I kind of missed, I was typing a joke. I want to just say, Russell, I want to thank you for taking us on. The trip with you and my internet is slow as shit. Everybody stop streaming in this house. I'm doing a podcast for God's sake.

[40:30]We talk about this. I want to thank you for letting me be myself again, which coincidentally is Slystone's autobiography. Guys, thank you for riding on the wine train with Russell. Look what we're going into, Russell. It's a tunnel. Russell, look what we're going into. It's a tunnel. That was an echo. Matt, how's it going? How's it going with you? That's a deep cut. That's good. Good.

[41:00]A couple of things. Rob, I got a new perfect song. You got to, you got to get ready to pull this up. My internet is so slow. I cannot tell you again how slow it is. Okay, go ahead. But I just. Oh yeah. This song is a flop. Right. You can do worse than listen to Black Crowes all day, right? For sure. Right. I know. So Black Crowes. Is your, is your perfect song list a zero? Some game? Does something get knocked out or do you just add? Are you constantly adding? No, my, my top 100, I have a top 100 list where I'm currently at 107.

[41:33]So I got to cut that bad boy down to keep it at 100. I got to, I could probably get it down to about 104 real quick, but, but no, perfect song list. No. I mean, this is like, you know how you talked about Russell, you just play a song to death, right? Like you could play this song for about 17 times in a row before you get sick of it, I think. So I don't know. It's got piano in the back. It's got piano in the background. It's my perfect song of the week. I like it. This might be a Pandora station maker for me. I might have to make a Pandora station off the song.

[42:00]These are the guys, like these, like this is the band that I imagined, like in the perfect bar. This is the band that's playing. Yeah. There's only 50 people in there. These guys are playing whiskeys, $5 a shot. Like that's, this is what I imagined. Oh yeah. Nope. Um, our illustrious quarterback in the great state of Minnesota is a guy named Kirk Cousins. And I think we've talked about him. You know, the, uh, what was that documentary or whatever on Netflix quarterback? Is that what it's called? Quarterback?

[42:30]You know, it was good. And I think everybody came around and, and it got to him, but Kirk Cousins, God bless him. He did something that I would never do if I was a professional athlete. Never, ever, ever, ever, ever do get married. Professional athlete. Wait, what? Hey, not cheat on my spouse, right? Oh, what's the point of being rich? Rich and famous and good at sports, right, Rob? I mean, guys, just imagine, I just want you to imagine you go in front of a crowd, you

[43:01]dunk, you have a huge dunk over another adult and just throw it down. Everybody's going crazy. And then later that night, you go out and cheat on your wife. I mean, what a perfect night. You know what I mean? You're just out there banging somebody you've never met before, underwear you've never seen. What is this? I don't know. I thought you were going to say you come home and your kids don't give a shit. They don't care that you dunked on another human. They don't go home. Nobody's texting me. When are you going to order dinner? Mom says we can't order dinner. It costs too much. God damn it. I hate you and mom. Okay.

[43:30]Sorry. I'm out dunking basketballs and cheating on your mom. What? Huh? No, I'm just doing the podcast. Yeah. Aaron made a joke about cheating on his wife. It was really disrespectful. Oh, Jesus. Trying to explain to his kids. So what did Kirk Cousins do? Oh, God. What the fuck? So Kirk Cousins, the Minnesota Twins were in the playoffs, right? And they were in the White House. It was a wild card game. It was a Tuesday was the first game. And Kirk Cousins just decided, oh, well, Tuesday's our off day.

[44:01]Might be a good idea to go with the wife and kids to the Twins game. So he just went on StubHub and ordered four tickets and sat in like section 117, row 20 with like the beautiful people when he could have made like one and a half phone calls and been in any suite or any front row he wanted to be. But this guy just went and sat. And just with a with a with a random people at a Twins game. That's weird. He's probably like, hey, that's weird.

[44:30]Hey, we get five dollar hot dogs if we're up in the upper deck. So this is great. You know what I mean? Like, this is where we should be. What? Yeah, that's I got to give it up for Kirk Cousins. That's a great move. That's not even safe. It's not safe. It's kind of, you know, kind of it feeds into his, you know, that he just doesn't pay attention to what's going on in the world kind of a thing. I kind of believe in that because if he was the one he just ordered tickets and just went to the game. So I have 90 percent of me respects him for it. Like, hey, great. Good move.

[45:00]Have fun. Your kids, your kids aren't going to be spoiled little brats, all that kind of stuff. The other 10 percent is like, what? What's the point of being the quarterback for the Vikings? If you can't, like, get in the suite at a moment's notice, things like that. So his contract in 2020 is a 66 million dollar contract with 30 million guaranteed. And he's like, you know, I don't know. He's like, it doesn't say these tickets are the best. It's the best value on StubHub. They seem so expensive. It's only a 6.2. It's not up in the eights or nines.

[45:30]My friends say I should sit up front, but I'm going to ignore them and sit wherever the fuck I want. That's what I do. How many times do you think he turned back, like, tickets? Because he's like, well, I didn't realize the fees were going to be as, but I didn't realize I was going to get like $17 in fees on these. Maybe he ordered them at his third wine tasting of the day. He was like, third wine tasting. I got to go for it. Yeah. You keep crawling up. You're like, I get this expensive ticket. I get this one. And then you turn. You turn on the fees. You're like, God damn it. I can't get any of these tickets. It's terrible. Are you guys neurotic like I am when it comes to like SeatGeek and StubHub where you're

[46:01]constantly like refreshing, constantly looking for the best deal possible and you spend like hours and hours doing it and then you should have just bought what you had when you went on the first time? Russell, it depends on what I'm doing, right? If it's a game or a concert I know I'm going to go to, you know, like, yeah, I'll look for a little while and I'll wait till the very end to pull the trigger. But like, I'll just wait until a half hour. I'll wait a half hour before I know I got to buy tickets because I won't put myself through that agony anymore of like knowing like, oh, I could have had, oh, I could have

[46:30]had those. Oh, you know, and I know I'm just going to wait anyways. And so I try not to do that. But if I'm like, but I was watching like twins tickets during the playoffs just to see when I was at my desk kind of a thing. And I wasn't, I wasn't really planning on going, but I kind of just wanted to see where the prices were and what was going on and stuff. And they got cheap, man. At least that first round, they got cheap. So yeah, I don't know. It was, it was, I try not to. You can definitely go down rabbit holes. Do you guys also think he, you also think he like had to like try to refresh his password

[47:02]like five times, like whenever you get tickets on StubHub, like you always have to reset that stupid password, like man, I suck at playing quarterback one apostrophe or like what is his reset code for, to get back into his StubHub account? When your password is always 69 boys ride that train, then it's not, then you never have to remember a thing in your life. You know what I mean? Rosie, how's it going with you? Rolling going, how's it going with you? It's going great. I want to just once again, say how wonderful it was that Russell and his one country traveler

[47:35]allowed us to join them for, for a bit on Monday. And I wish it could have been longer as always, but any amount of time you can spend with your, your dearest friends is valuable. And it's so much fun when you see how much other people enjoy your friends. I saw that when Matt was here with his family, I see it with Russell and I see all the people and I see all the things that I've loved about these people for so long. I noticed how much other people love them. So that was just, that was wonderful. So I got to say that.

[48:01]Why didn't you hang out longer? Did you think it was time to go or did Russell kind of imply, maybe like a wine host, it's time to get on here. You're been talking a little bit too long. I don't know. I, you know, honestly, I don't know. I, I do. I do. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I had, I had other things I had to do. I had to get home and I had to get home for soccer practice because we didn't have a, we didn't have a solution for childcare. So we still had to get back. Get back home, get Wallace and, and well, I know we had a friend pick him up from school and then it had to go to soccer practice. So now is this the soccer team you're coaching?

[48:31]Yeah. So I had to be coaching soccer at five. So we got up, got up in that bed at 10:30, hung out as long as we could, raced home. We got home, ate some tacos and then I went to soccer practice. Does our kid's soccer coach seem really drunk right now? I will say we do have the text chain and we have this, we have this, all groups of friends should start this group text chain. So once in a while, someone's having a cocktail at like 4:30, it's a picture of you in the cocktail or picture of the cocktail who's drinking.

[49:00]And it just starts off a firestorm of, you know, the three, four of us that have a drinking problem that are always drinking, but I did notice on the same day that Aaron came and met us at wine country, there was a who's drinking later on, I believe, and Aaron was drinking tequila that night, if I remember correctly, I got to have some tequila after soccer practice. I can't, I can't do the soccer practice. I don't need anything to drink after that. He's like, I got so tired from making these kids practice bicycle kicks all day. Like he's just doing shit like, so no, I'm, I I'm guilty.

[49:32]I'm the one who cut it short. I like to think that if we had said we'll stick around for longer, Russell would have, it would have been awesome. Yeah. I enjoyed that. But I'm also, I believe in kill him and leave, you know, like we had a good time. We left it on a great note and I'll see Russell again soon. Aaron did. I was told this air did think the, the Napa Valley go or afterwards he said, my understanding is he said. Yeah. Thanks for spending time with Russell. I did. I did indeed. Oh my God. Yeah. I, I, you know, I, I like that about her and I'm glad they found each other.

[50:02]So that's true. I did. Oh my God. Thanks for spending time with rough side. Sounds like they're leaving. It sounds like they're leaving a Costco. Yeah. It's like this little orphan person. Really? Thanks for hanging out with them. Yeah. I mean, that feels like enough of a rolling gun. Should we move on to Rob? No, no, no, no. Let's hear your wrong going. I'm going to edit all that out. Don't worry. I was going to ask you. I want to know, Matt, I know you've coached your kids with baseball, Rob, I don't know if you've coached your daughters in anything, but I got to know what kind of coach are you in soccer here?

[50:30]And are you like a, let's go out there and have fun. Do you ever yell it up? What's your style of coaching? I need to know this. Yeah. Well, I'm, I'm the assistant coach right now, so I'm, I'm really, and I have been on, I've been the assistant coach for T-ball and for soccer. So I'm not the one laying out the plan for practice. I'm not in charge. So what ends up happening pretty frequently during practice is I'm the one who's trying to corral the like real spacey kids. So like the ones who are like digging a hole and burying the ball in it, or who are like

[51:01]given each other horsey rides or like stuck in the net and trying not to like get the, and then just like begging them to come on or like the kids who like brought his wimpy kid book and is sitting on the field of wimpy kid and reading it. And I'm having to be like, Si, can you please close the book and come out on the field? Like, so that's, I spend more time doing that. Aaron's out there. Almost anything else. Aaron's out there. And the kid's like, wow. What's that man city song, right? This is the man. I get it. Soccer man city. I get it. Great song for soccer. Aaron's out there on the field.

[51:30]And some kids just looking at the ground and he's like, Hey, you know, you can eat a lot of those weeds. A lot of people don't realize that because like, I want to go home. I did yell during a game because, because my guy, Teddy was, Teddy was balling out, man. Teddy was playing hard. He was running the whole field and none of the rest of the kids during the game were helping Teddy out. So he was playing offense. He was running back to play defense. Not helping them out. So I did raise my voice at those kids and tell them to get back. You got to help your teammate out. He's back here trying to play hard, like get back here and help Teddy.

[52:02]And my wife was like, you get your ass in gear right now, you're three foot. Nothing. You're a hundred and nothing. And you're doing dog shit out of the field right now. Teddy's dragging your ass. Teddy's back hurts him. Carry this team. You sons of bitches. You get out there and you win. Yeah. Once again, man. And the children are six. So it's, yeah, that was maybe, maybe that was a little too much. So yeah, my style is mostly like, I'm trying to connect with the weirdos because I feel

[52:31]like I am the one who's best at connecting with the weirdos. But then during the game, I do get a little stern if I have to. There you go. Aaron, let's hear the rest of your, oh, okay. Whatever you want. I feel bad. I talked over your rolling goal and I totally interrupted to make it awkward to see if Russell or you ended it first. That was a good one. I've been a dick to you guys two episodes in a row now and it feels so good. That's all I needed. It feels so good. I'm addicted to it. All right. Here's the thing. I need to go into the corner. Hey, Rob. I've been a dick to you and it feels so good.

[53:00]The corner. Oh yeah. Big Johnson Ford clinic where the addictions are big. You know, stuff like that. Like, all right. Big Johnson's rehab. Addiction. Okay. I don't know. There's something there. I'll save him. I'm going to save him for the end. Oh no, you can't. We have so many big Johnson jokes at the end. I've got two written down. All right, listen, I'm in the, I'm in the advice corner.

[53:30]Okay. And here's my, here's what I need. I needed to say fair fall on this. Okay. I'm biking to work. I parked my bike. Now that the bike, you know, the, the city bikes all have the baskets in the front. As I parked my bike, I noticed something catches my eyes a little gleam, a little glimmer. Okay. And I look and on this bike, that's a, you know, so you kind of park it into the rack. The person was just there and the lights were kind of like blinking. So I knew they had just been there. There is a Yeti mug. Okay.

[54:00]Now these, I just want to let you know, a Yeti coffee mug is like 25, 35 bucks. All right. And it's just sitting on this and it's just sitting on this bike. All right. Now keep this in mind. My mug at work is kind of breaking because I keep dropping it. Okay. So the top is kind of breaking. I need a new mug. So I walk, I walk past it and then I go, I don't know. I kind of look over both shoulders, which is tough because I have limited mobility. So I'm going to have to do the Batman look where you're moving your whole body.

[54:33]And then I grabbed the mug and I do walk a little bit quicker. There's a hop in my step. I go to my work. I tell everybody at work that I've done this. They're disgusted. They want nothing to do with me. Okay. They think it's terrible. Something about, I don't know, the flu season or whatever. Right. So I clean the mug, wash it, soap and water, sit in hot water for a day. I am now using it. Okay. What do you guys think of that? Fair or foul? It is an expensive mug.

[55:00]Somebody was going to take it. If it wasn't me, it would have been somebody else. Okay. So am I in the right to take that mug? Don't talk about whether or not it's gross because it's not. I cleaned it. Okay. I'm a science teacher. I know about bacteria and shit. All right. Oh God. Shit. I didn't even think about that. There might've been shit in it. Fuck. That's why my wife said my mom said shit. Who was the player from the University of Miami who was taking shits in people's coffee cups? Mark Jumeirah. No, she didn't. Mark Jumeirah was in the hot tub. Sorry. I got to do this.

[55:30]We don't need to do Mark Jumeirah jokes. Nope. Nope. Don't need it. Wait, I'm confused. How do we know that the original owner of the mug is not coming back? How do we know you didn't steal it? Yeah. It's on a bike in the middle of New York City, man. They ain't coming back. Do people not ride bikes? Okay. Let me ask you this. Why are you putting a mug- Is it one of your rental bikes? Is that what it is? Yes. Yeah. Not somebody's personal bike. No. Not a personal bike. So it's a rental bike. Okay. So why are they putting a mug on the bike? I think they just put it there to maybe leave it as a treat for somebody.

[56:02]For you. Yeah. What do you think? Aaron, yes or no? I think it's fine then. Yeah. Rental bike. Okay. I think maybe wait and come back the next day. I might give it one more day. But I mean, yeah, I don't think you're going to hell over this. Bro, that shit ain't going to be there the next day. That's not going to be there in 10 minutes. I got to grab it while I can. Matt, what do you think? I think if you have to ask, then I think you know the answer already. Oh, that's a strong dad move. That's a strong dad move. But at the same time, I appreciate the move.

[56:30]I think I would have waited like three minutes and just stood right by that thing to see if somebody comes running back like, "That's mine." And if somebody else asks like, "Is that yours?" Then say, "Oh yeah, it's mine." But wait to see. Yeah. I'm just waiting by it. But you do have to get going. Yeah. So it's a little bit of a gray area. But do I have a couple- Like my balls. Do I have a couple ball field chairs and maybe a mug or something like that from the same situation? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[57:00]So it's kind of the natural order of life. Russell, what do you think? Fair or foul? Like a bird belonging to one of two biological orders, Rob. This is foul. This is a foul move. I don't know, man. I would never ... You saying it was on a rental bike makes it way more acceptable. If that was on someone else, like a normal bike- Oh yeah. This might be like- That's what I was assuming from- This might be the end of the podcast because then I would think you are a psychopath. A common thief. Yeah. Yes. Well, with that, and then when he canceled his credit card that one time. That was bad.

[57:30]I mean like, "Holy cow." Right. Yes. We get into some patterns where we're concerned about your- That was a scam. I was scamming the scammers. But it being on a rental bike, I could ... It's fair. Slightly get it. I think it's slightly foul that you took it. I wouldn't have liked it. I wouldn't have liked it. I wouldn't have liked it. I would have liked it. But I just think it's more weird that you would take like a stranger's cup and be like, "Oh yeah, this is going to be my cup." I know it's not weird. Watch it up. You do it in like a restaurant all the time. People drink from cups at your house, you drink from other people, but I would not have taken it. No.

[58:00]It would gross me out. Can I ask you guys a second question? Two girls might do something in the same cup. Like whatever. It's like cups can be shared all over. Can I ask you guys a question? Do you guys ever get like these warts onto your lips? Like both top and bottom? Is that normal? Yeah. Yeah. That's my other question. I have to ask. All right. Let's talk about that. I'm going to edit this together so it sounds like I wasn't certain. One real quick story. When I was in college, I worked as a city worker, right? And we'd drive around. This is old guy, Zeke. And he would look at any bag, any bag. He was convinced he was going to find a bag with a bunch of money in it on the side of

[58:33]the road. He was convinced. Yes. And so anytime we were driving around a city truck, he'd pull over, he'd stop and get it. The last one I remember him doing, he pulled over, opened it up. Oh, jeez. Holy cow. Somebody had taken a shit in a bag and thrown it out and opened it up. Oh. Yeah. Oh. That serves you right. Yeah. Classic shit in the bag trick. I got to ask more questions about this bag that somebody took a shit in. Do you remember? Is it like, are we talking like a plastic Target bag or are we talking like a nice-

[59:00]Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like a plastic bag. Yeah. Like a Target bag thing. Oh, man. Can you imagine the situation where you're in and where you're like, well, I guess I'm shitting in this Target bag. I cannot imagine where I am in my life where I'm like, well, the best option for me right now is to shit in this Target bag. Like, that's a wild, like, at least get the nice handle, like the brown bag, you know, with the handles, you can kind of spread out wide. So Rob, would you have taken anything, like if it was a Kit Kat bar on the thing, would you have taken that? No. Or is there limits on what you have taken or not taken or not? How about if it wasn't a Yeti? I mean, like, because everybody knows Yeti, like, if it was just like, you know, some

[59:32]Joe Blow brand. No. If it was any other mug, I wouldn't even thought about it. It wouldn't even cross my mind. Hydro Flask. No. No. No. Something about the water makes it gross. The Yeti. Yeah. I mean, now let me just follow your story with my story. So there's a company name on the cup. I look it up. Very nice. I look it up. And this sealed the deal that this was actually the best decision. I looked it up. It's a venture capital company. So I took a mug from some dumb fuck who works at a venture.

[60:00]Ooh, I'm actually helping the economy. This is like a conference giveaway. Now I'm totally fine with you taking it. This is someone, something picked up at a conference or from a client and they thought, oh, this would be cool. And they're like, I'm not putting this in my bag. I'm putting this in my suitcase. And they gave up on that. If it's a, if it's a branded cup like that, that's all yours, Rob. You enjoy that. Honey, I'm back from my meeting where we talked about synergizing growth and they gave me this cup and I cheated on you, you know, or whatever. All right. Let's talk about this album. Let's talk about this album.

[60:30]Jesus. Or whatever. Yeah. Angel, Angel, her investor. Big Johnson. All right. Uh, so that was my angel investor. Nevermind. I get it. Don't say that anymore. Goddammit. Don't say that anymore. Uh, so these guys are from Athens, Georgia, uh, REM is who we're talking about. And basically they, this album just captured their sound immediately. Mumbly voice, jangly guitar, super, super forward base. I was amazed with how forward the base was on this album and how melodic it was.

[61:02]Uh, and basically when I was listening to this, this, this album, a lot of people say it paved the way for alternative music. I mean, here's the thing. This is what I thought. This is a nineties album. And it's from 1983. It sounds like this album came out in 1993, right? It is so far ahead of its time, which is why I think it's so high up on this list right now. Am I crazy and thinking that anybody? No. I mean, I think, I think of it as like the talking heads without like the new wave sound, right?

[61:30]It's just like talking heads, rock and roll kind of thing. I don't know. I completely agree with you. Yeah. I can only think about the replacements and it's in part because I read about the collaborations between the replacements and REM. But this sound is definitely what made the replacements think they could, they could change from a hardcore band to a more pop influenced, you know, melodic band. And so a lot of what we're hearing is to me, what like Tim and pleased to meet me became Rob's right in 1983, by the end of 1983, this album had sold 200,000 copies, barely, not

[62:05]many. That's not many yet. It was picked as rolling stone magazines. Album of the year in 1983, beating out a little album by you two called war a little album. I don't know. Have I heard this album by the police? It's called synchronicity. And this album, what is this? Michael Jackson's thriller. Wait, I know this. Album of the year. That's wild.

[62:30]That's crazy to me. Like this, this album doesn't even sound like, I mean, it's crazy to me. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, we're getting, I don't know. We haven't even played any of the music yet. I'm already talking a bunch. Like this, this, the point of this album is not to be on a list of great albums to me. It's like this album just exists for the music itself. I don't know. Yeah. It's wild to me that this is on this list at all. Play radio and I enjoy it. Play radio for Europe and give me some of that mommy's milk, please. I want mommy's milk and I want radio for Europe. Yeah. Do you think Michael Jackson and Quincy, Quincy Jones listened to this album? Yeah.

[63:00]When they were doing, when they were doing this album, they listened to it. Yeah. When they were doing this album, they listened to it. Yeah. Do you think Michael Jackson and Quincy, Quincy Jones listened to this album? Yeah. When they were doing, when they were doing fucking, uh, USA that's on. We are the world. But I, so apparently when Michael Stipe wrote the lyrics to this, the band heard the lyrics and they were blown away by them.

[63:30]To which I say, what? I don't. Yeah. I think the melody is unbelievable, but he intentionally writes unclear lyrics. I think as one of his tools, right? I think in one of the interviews, this is when we talked about this before, this is Ubu and what's the other one, Aaron? Oops and Ubu. Only one perfect sound. Yeah, but it's kind of like we've talked about nonsense lyrics on the, on the pod before, right? It's not about what they're saying. It's about what they're, how they make you feel. Right? Right. But I, but I think he said, I was reading that he said like on some of these songs,

[64:02]like. gibberish because he just couldn't finish the songs in time but if it works it works right so this is i don't know is this a major label album was that were they under pressure to to get it finished no so this album i actually was going to talk about that a little bit later but essentially there was they they were signing with this no it's kind of like a small who was it with it was like uh irs yeah irs and then and then they they had problems with a producer and so they got a producer who they had done radio for europe with earlier and so they just kind of like

[64:32]i think they had a pretty good time making this record from what i saw that label also if you remember was a former tag team champion with the million dollar man they were always money incorporated irs everybody's got a price john from edina's favorite part of the podcast oh this is our price wasn't yeah wasn't irs one of those guys who like looked like a bodybuilder but couldn't wrestle for shit like it's always it's always the guys who like terry funk who

[65:01]he had to wrestle wearing black suit pants suspenders a short sleeve dress shirt and a tie that's what he wrestled in yeah i mean that's not easy it was it was weird i saw him wrestle once where he's like did you guys see a mug i think i left it on my bike but it's not it's not there anymore uh pilgrimage you should wear that outfit to your next jiu-jitsu class rob oh that'd be so good if i showed up like that if i brought like a briefcase who wants to take this from me take a turn i gotta say the first when i saw this album i gotta admit i was kind of bummed because i was

[65:36]like i don't know any of these songs not a single song and then when i was sitting at work playing this it was just one of those albums where it didn't matter what song it was didn't matter what was going on it's an upbeat album like almost every song except for the last one or the second last one is like a true pop alternative sound i loved it i thought it was just so fun to listen to in the headphones i still don't know any of these songs i listen to it all day i still would

[66:00]i don't know the names i don't know any of the lyrics but i like it like i'll put it on again like but i don't know any of them i don't know how but i definitely know radio free europe i don't it must be a current like must be on the regular uh rotation at the current or something like that but that's definitely about the only song i could pull out uh first time through laughing it's almost kind of strange that we don't know any of the songs from this like i'm not a huge

[66:33]rem fan but they were so big when we were younger that it's almost surprising that we hadn't we hadn't heard more of these right this is like i mean their second and third album or third and fourth whatever you know the two albums in the 90s i mean we probably know half of those songs on each of those albums so i don't know it just feels like this is so new this is 1983 right so it was so much earlier than those other albums so i don't know i think we get a pass because of that

[67:01]i totally forgot we did another rem album didn't we yeah how did i forget about the one with night swimming yes russell perfect song this is huge rem or whatever you said earlier huge rem man i'm standing yes i'm huge rem i'm standing in this corner and i was wondering if you'd like to go night swimming hey do you know the quarterback for the philadelphia eagles russell that was a pretty good bit that i didn't think of three days ago

[67:36]that would be pathetic if somebody remembered that joke and then did it so we did automatic for the people which was at 96 or 93 96 i think and that came out in 1992 oh what were some of the hits on that one was it everybody hurts let's look here i'm just going drive everybody hurts man on the moon night

[68:01]swimming so those are the big ones that's pretty much everything but uh end of the world as we know it and uh shiny happy people right well that one dumb song about me and the being in the whole religion yeah losing my religion yeah that i don't think that album's on the list uh listen talk about the passion this is one of the songs where that actually has a message and they drove it home with the video which they played with uh images of people who are starving so super fun i also like that the the lead singer on this is uh michael stipe a good friend of stipe

[68:39]miocic who's going to be fighting in the ufc championship right rob that's so good i love that i like that i like that if i if i call them michael stripe from gremlins you guys are like i don't get that at all but if i say michael stipe you guys are like i get that that's smart shit uh all right moral kiosk have you guys been to a mall lately we got some great malls close to me like some

[69:04]some that have like some indoor outdoor spaces and they got like a have you guys been to a salt and straw ice cream oh that sounds good now but have you noticed that malls lately there's just tons of kiosks like that's a new thing you can just start a kiosk in the middle of the mall like you know the one where they have the head rubbers or like the pillows the foam free real estate yeah free money for the malls i was in a mall the other day and it had hermit crabs in the middle i was like that doesn't seem right that you're selling hermit crabs i i would start a stand

[69:33]with big johnson shirts rob and i'd have one for your jujitsu class it would say it's not the color of your jujitsu belt it's what you do with that belt in a hotel room that counts oh god jesus and you want me to take out their runaway train joke which i can now because i mentioned it okay and if it got edited out i'm sorry it was not that great that's what the bleeps are for it's always funnier if you bleep it russell i hope you did i cannot wait to hear all of

[70:02]russell's big johnson shirts i'm so excited i'll have to cruise you know for a few songs here and go back to the my search okay russell aaron works in some insurance shit or something come up with that all right perfect circle that's not true you know for a few songs here and go back to the my search okay i'm cruising russell aaron works in some insurance shit or something come up with that all right perfect circle that's not true you know for a few songs here and go back to the my search okay i'm cruising russell aaron works in some insurance shit or something come up with that all right perfect circle is this what the what the band is named for what there's a band called the perfect circle oh maybe i thought you were talking about the band or rem and i was like i don't get what you're talking about and fair this was written by the

[70:33]drummer bill barry the only ballad on a pretty upbeat album that's one of the least rock and roll names i could ever imagine bill barry it feels like he should have been playing backup for well for buddy holly next week maybe honestly it feels in the crickets it feels like he should be getting his ass kicked by irs in the ring you know what i mean like from nebraska bill he's a jobber yeah exactly oh my god bill barry slapped him or whatever those guys are they're always laughing if you're a pro wrestler

[71:02]and you come in for your work that day and you're like you're losing to irs you gotta be like fuck i am going nowhere this is the end of my career yeah don't get the clown is like you suck if i have to take another bushwhacker finish i i quit i've had enough catapult i love this guitar and bass at the beginning that's why i picked this part sounds like liz fair wow that album's a long time one thing i was reading about this song rob and a lot of the

[71:37]songs in this is they represent the post-punk movement of the 80s that is known as jangle pop do you guys know anything about jangle pop oh i love that name though it's kind of a return to chiming guitars and pop melodies of the 60s it was real popular in the mid 80s it has a bright jangly treble focused electric guitar minimal distortion and catchy pop harmonies dating back to kind of like a george harrison sound a buddy

[72:03]holly sound oh yeah we've heard a lot of bands that have played jangle pop before uh the beatles um i don't we've never heard the everly brothers but the smiths the pretenders the rembrandts the cure even the replacement of the jangle pop is kind of a return to the jangle pop sound i believe we have some jangle pop songs so i thought we could do a quick list of the greatest jangle pop songs ever oh wow love to hear it russell you know my favorite kind of pop iggy i think you're gonna say like a leftover root beer that was left on a bike

[72:33]in the middle of manhattan no my favorite pop is actually tart maybe a half finished root beer on the nightstand when you wake up in las vegas oh god oh that's so good next year shawarma most excuse me could i have a warm blue gatorade please thank you i just woke up in vegas first song on the list is from 1965 this is before the term jangle pop was ever used but this is always kind of referred to as the beginning of it it's the birds turn turn turn

[73:01]i feel like in my life russell everything before this moment is before the term jangle pop existed i've never heard the term in my life here wasn't your dad a big fan of the birds or something one of these bands or not yeah i'm sure my yeah i'm sure like we definitely had some brunus hits stuff in the house for bands like this yeah i would have heard this in time i actually talked to aaron's dad and you know what he said he goes i'm a big fan of the birds baby yeah they make me horny i'm randy yeah

[73:31]his dad's dad's awesome powers jim mcguinn from the birds got randy when he heard george harrison playing a hard day's night and so then he kind of wanted to you know repeat that sound that but it's interesting because so this was their follow-up song to uh tambourine man by bob dylan and if you guys remember in the lyrics from tambourine man they referred to that jingle jangle morning so later on in the 80s when people started replicating the sound they called it

[74:00]jangle pop after that phrase in tambourine man pull it to the cider baby yeah yeah wow another intense callback from hey you don't get it you don't get it go fuck yourself we don't need to go back to episode 22 yep aaron are you the one who made the original pull it to the cider joke or not i know rob did i think rob did what it could have been any of us we're all looking for the guy who would have made that joke i think but i think let rob know about

[74:30]something when i did meet aaron's wife at gmail.com and she talked a little bit about the podcast and she said you know aaron and russ and matt aren't that bad but rob can be pretty terrible on this sometimes it's sounds like i'm making somebody randy baby it's getting better i think my austin powers impression is coming along quite nicely let's keep working the next song on the list is rob this might get a little personal it's

[75:01]from the band called the soft boys the song is queen of eyes from 1980 i've never heard this listen to that guitar right that's the perfect jangly sound linking on and off it's the queen of eyes guys this is awesome this is my austin powers impression singing a song yeah i know this is nice dude this got r.e.m randy baby r.e.m said this underwater moonlight album to have this song was a major influence on them and that eventually brought kind of that

[75:31]jangle rock sound to college rock with r.e.m wow beautiful i think major influence fought sergeant slaughter at the third wrestlemania i still got it next song on the list is one of matt's favorites this is from 1976 it's tom petty american girl hear that jangle this is so good god dang that's a good song

[76:01]do you think do you think and i hate to say that right after you commented that erin's wife thinks i'm dirty but do you think women who slept with tom petty feel like i do when you open up your screen from the night before accidentally and you're like oh my gosh like you have that post nut clarity you know where you're like yeah i just fucked a rock star this is awesome and then you look and it's tom petty and he's like he's like you're an american ghoul because he looks so much

[76:31]like the crib keeper do i make you randy keeper why are you so stiff oh oh oh no the awesome okay if austin powers ran into the crib keeper i think it would sound something like this so tom petty actually acknowledged this was an homage to roger mcguinn from the birds they had two six string guitars that were mimicking the birds 12 string guitar from turn turn turn

[77:00]and um mcguinn actually loved american girl so much he covered it right after tom petty released the song and then when tom petty died um the day after peter buck from r.e.m actually joined coldplay to cover a tom petty song so obviously there was some mutual appreciation between r.e.m and tom petty no doubt i don't know anybody who hates tom petty though like everybody i think tom petty is a he's a blast i have a greater i know i like tom petty i had his greatest hit cd

[77:30]growing up i watched the the wallflowers documentary have you guys seen this wildflowers no of course yeah matt was recommending it wasn't he yeah matt i finally watched it on the airplane a week or so ago it is absolutely fantastic it is a must-watch i'm gonna stamp uh matt's recommendation on that documentary it's so good so that album top three album for me of all time i can see why kind of learning more about it and rick rubin's involvement and kind of where the band was and where they were going i i thought it was i'm with you matt and so it's like 294 on the list that's obscene 294 or something like hey we're gonna get there

[78:05]i saw a documentary it was weird it's only 30 minutes long and it was just a guy going hey do you know who my dad is and that was the wallflowers documentary that was really weird that was so so strange the fact the fact that we've talked about irs the wrestler on this podcast before tom petty wallflowers is is an embarrassment true wildflowers wildflowers is 214 so it'll be coming up sooner than i also like that matt said hey you should watch this music documentary i'm like you should watch robocop

[78:32]and gremlins and what was that other shitty movie you're talking about yeah teen wolf or whatever excuse me you make me sound like i just watch horse shit all the time that's crazy next song on the list is from 1988 so this is after rem and murmur comes out so definitely some influence here this is an indie pop band it's called the band is the primitives the song is crash let's see if you remember it into me yeah here you go yes you guys remember this

[79:05]what movie was this i know the movie i was gonna quiz you guys you guys know and i'll give you a hint this movie is in the g8 of the dvd tournament isn't this a great jangle pop song yep not godfather i'm pretty sure i had that one yeah this is what they shoot when they shoot up the sun in the car right yeah

[79:35]sunny you it's like you're running at an incredibly fast rate you come to me you're taking care of me you're taking care of me you come to me the day of my daughter's wedding baby you watching me stroke this cat yeah baby yeah that's godfather impression is him saying you're watching me stroking this cat

[80:03]so good last song on the list is from 1990 check out this this is the laws there she goes oh my god this is such a jam isn't she's all that this was in the movie too yes i yeah i think it was this is like where she's taking off her glasses and everybody's like god damn she's beautiful before that was a joke like

[80:30]well they could really do that in the movie russell i think i love jangle pop there's some grooves on this isn't there and rob i would see like a guitar player there's got to be some appreciation these seem to seem like fun songs to play right i think yeah what i mean who doesn't love like the guitars on these songs it sounds so good i gotta say if this was your roommate practicing with this noise you'd go crazy but i love it no song no gallagher lead guitar player for the offspring once said that this is his favorite song from the 90s oh no wow that was it

[81:03]but another interesting thing i was reading this review of this and it said this song sounds like there were moments where the guitar hooks are like drugs the opening guitar riff sounds like it's peter buck come down from heaven to save your soul with the heavenly hit joined by roger mcguinn from the birds what an amazing review for that awesome jangle pop song right just perfect uh real quick i need help with a joke what is that offspring song how does it start

[81:30]give it to me uh-huh uh-huh baby yeah guys if austin powers sang for the offspring i think it would sound a little something like this i'm lost in my own joke guys i've gone into a joke-ception and i don't think i can get out if the offspring met the crypt keeper more like off sting and you're allergic to bees oh halloween episode doesn't come out till next week guys i know you think that's what i'm doing

[82:04]right now but are there more songs on this show? i'm trying to think of a kirk cousins crypt keeper joke and it's not coming to me right now but it'll be there sitting still this is the b-side of radio for europe their first single and michael stipe literally has come out and said yes these lyrics are nonsense listen he said they're just vowels put together so good i like this

[82:35]i enjoy it too yeah but i don't know what the hell he's talking about nine nine i love the syncopation in this oh that's so many 90s songs i mean you think smashing pumpkins listen to this song at all yeah i was thinking uh what's that band out of uh australia with the 15 year olds the hives

[83:00]the jonas brothers can you imagine being in austin? band at 15? god that would rule tell you gotta do your homework hey my homework is cheating on my wife okay i'm in a real band it's i mean it's why you're in a band you're on the road all the time what are you supposed to do that's true i'm listen i play this guitar and i f***** chicks that i don't know that's the two things i do i'm waiting for matt to pull this band

[83:31]silver chair silver chair i forgot about silver chair yeah this is we're we're pulling it all which uh tomorrow no the the other silver chair song i was a little shocked when there were multiple in the uh youtube let's go up to 30 seconds you hear that you hear the beginning of this song and hear the others yeah yeah you know what they're doing in the video too is that they're all pulling out progressively bigger

[84:04]knives so that's why they're all pulling out bigger knives that's how you know where they're from you know what i mean have you guys seen crocodile dundee have you guys seen crocodile dundee have you not seen crocodile dundee hey rob only way to get this to go that's not i have seen the crocodile dundee thank you thank you i i saw when he got stung by that stingray in that youtube video there's a lot of bush play that play the beginning of that last song one more time there is so much night early 90s

[84:31]you're in glycerine or what? aliens but pull up aliens by uh bush okay so wait a minute there's a lot of purple links here when i search this but uh now okay aliens bush reminds me of one other thing i got to show you so don't let me forget okay alien by bush holy shit oh there it is whoa man you're like a fucking genius

[85:02]i don't care what these guys say when you step away that's what i'm saying those three notes right there i mean that's like half of the 90s alternative rock bands starting right there okay so i'm going to show you something so matt just came out with something really smart i'm going to show you something really smart check this out if you type in ufo porno look what comes up what what do you mean no russell you're not even giving this a chance russell okay when i play ufo porno and you just go oh like that it makes me think you don't actually care what the video for ufo porno is going to be let's watch it

[85:31]you're not even giving this a chance russell okay when i play ufo porno and you just go uh like that it makes me think you don't actually care what the video for ufo porno is going to be let's watch it it makes me think that you don't care definitely lack of hot sauce in this video now russell can you describe what's going on describe what's going on it looks like three uh a three-man tag team of the 1980s wrestling tag team the conquistadors wearing like gold suits and gloves shaking through at least one of them is pregnant

[86:00]it's not normal fun fun fun this album is fun it is a fun album the whole thing i love it jangling this next song uh is actually it's a pantera cover we walk that's that's a good joke it's a live show fave this was the song for me this was the one that it sounded different than a lot of the other ones i like that kind of catchy hook i like this one this one got a plus

[86:31]on my spotify added it to my normal list yeah i like this song this song is a commentary about the mundane everyday life and i gotta say i get it life is so mundane every day it's just the same goddamn thing and then i get on here and i finally have three guys that are being forced to watch the ufo porno video with me and they can't ignore it when i text it to them like so many people do with the videos i text out okay except for aaron aaron's good at that west of the fields i love this ending

[87:02]i think it's a fun ending to an album this sounds like the smith i mean this is fun fun fun i can see where if you heard this album you were like i am into rem i get it love it but of course this is not about whether or not we like the album this is about one thing and one thing only everybody's favorite part of the show

[87:33]like amory said it's that one thing where does it fit on the list where's the amory album on the list now is this album at 165 okay is this an appropriate place for murmur all right all right and remember that murmur made joke i made it seems like a lifetime ago all right is this album at 165 is it perfect right here okay that would be like i don't know maybe if you had some feet yeah fuck yeah put some hot sauce on it it's perfect okay that would be a

[88:05]well-toned yeah all right or maybe it's watching the ufo porno that would be a rolling groan okay if you think the album should not have been this high that would be a rolling groan and of course how many versions of the matrix do you think have ufo porno and hot sauce on feet in the same version like of scenarios of the world oh none of them that's why i live here i got to pick i was like oh you're gonna give me a life that seems like a gray abyss every day i go to the

[88:36]same job taking the same bike going the same route finding the same coffee mugs but then i go home and i get to watch ufo porno and hot sauce on feet i'll take it no problem in or is this a what else is left a rolling bone it should have been way higher on the list this is a fun album it's 83 it's literally this album sounds like it's the 90s as matt the genius pointed out okay before he made us watch that ufo porno video uh what do you guys think rolling well-toned

[89:04]rolling bone or rolling groan rosie what do you think i like this album i don't understand what an album like this is doing on a list of the best albums of all time it sounds like a lot of other albums could have been here um but maybe this was the first to do it and i do like it i'm struggling a little bit because i know what's coming next week which i know is a compilation but i kind of like better but all that said i think it's important i think a lot of people liked it i'm going to give it a

[89:31]rolling well-toned uh russell what do you think rolling well-toned rolling bone or rolling groan murmur i thought it was catchy there was a lot of i like that jangle pop sound i can definitely see where this was influential for other bands too for me it seemed you know there's a handful of songs that changed it up a little bit it felt a little one note a little bit to me i didn't feel like it was all that different from song to song um but for me i think there i don't need more than one rem album in the top 500 for my taste and the first one we had had all those hits on it

[90:03]andy kaufman in the wrestling match that's all i needed from rem so i'm gonna say it's a slight rolling groan i liked it i enjoyed it rem became a huge band after this album and a few other ones but i didn't need more of it i think it's a great album i think it's a great album i think it's a i was good with the first round i thought this was more of an excel album than a one note album is that a joke is one note a business thing i think so yeah thank you nailed it business guy over here nailed it matt what do you think rolling well-toned rolling but you guys reminded you all

[90:33]of your jobs microsoft sweet definitely joined this podcast to talk about the shit that i deal with my work guys we should get on teams should we get on teams and do this podcast over teams uh matt what do you think rolling well-toned rolling bone or rolling and groan well we brought up uh wildflowers right so i mean now everything's going to be compared to is this better than wildflowers and there's not going to be a lot that is i hate to tell you so you know i i just i

[91:00]it's a great album i can hear it i can hear how uh probably influential it is but man i started falling asleep after the first song for me anyway so it didn't hit with me per se so i'm going to say it's rolling groan should be lower on the list guys unfortunately you are incorrect shit this album this album gets a rolling smirger stone as you guys understand that it doesn't matter if you understood that okay you don't need to know the lyrics you get the vibe from the album i want to put my gurgle stone in a bourbon stein until it makes me so you didn't understand that

[91:34]and yet you got the vibe i was going for you know what i mean like you don't have to know the lyrics to get the joke it's kind of your usual vibe i mean i can guess that vibe pretty pretty perverted isn't it yeah my usual vibe is the one that goes like this boom boom boom said nobody turn it on max why are we fucking around with these vibrator settings uh next up big johnson vibrator that was my that was my one where they're like this is too on the nose

[92:06]you've gone the other direction uh big johnson vibrator use it to masturbate i thought it was a good shirt i thought that would save my job all right make sure you have enough c cell batteries on oh i did order batteries off of amazon and that was the one thing my wife asked

[92:30]are there c batteries in this i was like are you spanish now all right uh i said c batteries yes batteries i don't know what okay i put that joke i went to take it too far uh so next up where the fuck did i put the next album what finally an album i got i got i got i got a girl named sue would peg me oh no don't read my stuff i want to put my harsher rush herman inside of you

[93:01]finally finally an album for me i dated a girl named sue and she would always peg me peg me sue peg me sue i want to put my irish bergen in you oh peg me when you want to hear i really went there well i love a girl when you peg me like you do if you want to hear shit i'll be right back guys i gotta record a parody song real quick i've got the perfect podcast for you jack beck did it better rob i got i got two new big johnson

[93:38]t-shirts here that i'm gonna be putting up on the beck did a better song the first one is we should put this up on our site let's steal all the copyrights who cares anymore left-handed five-time cy young award winner from the diamondbacks and mariners known as the big unit big johnson do i make you randy baby it's time russell get it randy johnson i cannot believe that we have two equally good sports jokes

[94:04]to end this podcast because you know what i you know what i just got in the mail let's hear it it's my number 14 extra extra extra extra large vikings jersey yes it's my big brad johnson shirt oh i'm gonna pass big brad johnson the only other one i had rob was oh big johnson wine train the court goes in the pink and the caboose

[94:32]oh you , you,