Pavement: Slanted and Enchanted (1992)

[00:00]Guys, quick, come with me. We got to get, listen, let's get in this machine. Okay, there's smoke, there's rivets. Okay, I know we just got done with episode 200, but guess what? We're going back. We got to go back in time. What? Okay. Oh, we're going back. Oh, look at, hey, there we are doing shot A. Okay, we didn't go back far enough. Let's go back a little bit too far, farther. Man, you're the singer, Rob. Oh, my parents are deep dicking. That's too far. We got to go forward. This is too forward. Oh, okay. Russell broke the handle. He wants to stay here. This is so weird. Oh, listen, okay, we're in the time machine. We're going back. We're doing episode 199. Okay, so don't be confused. That Michael J. Fox's wife slash mom is one fine piece of... Sorry. Sorry. Can you imagine going back in time and you're wearing tighty-whities? That would be a bummer. Oh. You know what I mean? Just like... Risky business style. That's kind of what you wear. You wear normally, Rob.

[01:00]I don't even know why you think it's an issue. They're blue, Russell. And I'll tell you. Do you guys want to see how big the ones they ship me are? No, I don't. I bought tighty-blueys. No. They came. They're... That's it. I'm going to get... I'll be right back. What? No. How did we get here? No one asked for this. It's 1238. No one asked for this. Again, another opportunity for the three of us to show our... Our comedic stylings. And we're incapable. To really bring it. And here we are. Okay. I'm back. Now, when I went into the bedroom, which Jenny was awake in when I just went between our episodes. This time she was not awake. And she asked me a very unfortunate question. Did you take the tape off or not? She said... Jenny asked me an unfortunate question. She said, what are you doing? And I had to say to her... I am getting a pair of my underwear to show the guys how big it is.

[02:02]So, of course, she said, oh, I understand. That's great. Go back. Guys, look at this. Look at these. If these underwear came in your mail, tell me what you would feel about yourself. Why are these so big? Look at this. They look like your jean shorts. Yeah, they're like as wide as your shoulders. They're wider than my shoulders. They're so big. I don't know why. I got the size that Amazon recommended. They're huge. It's like a hot air balloon. So, are you going to wear them or not? Well, yeah, I wear them all the time. They're super comfortable. But... They're too big. I can't... I've seen your swimsuits. You can afford to go a size up. You're fine. I got some more of those, too. In 2020, four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums that's decided by Rolling Stone Magazine. This resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music excoriated the order and led us to making this podcast. We are far from experts, so we promise to do almost no research. All opinions are our own. All opinions are our own, unless you disagree.

[03:00]Please sit back and enjoy. Beck did it better. We are up to album 199. But also back down. Don't. Yeah, okay. For all the people that are listening... Oh, yeah. For all you people who are a couple episodes behind... I know you're lying to me, by the way. When people text that, they say, I'm a couple episodes behind. Don't do that to me. You're not listening anymore. From 1992, we have Pavement with Slanted and Enchanted. This is often pointed to as one of the most... important indie records ever. But I would say my favorite indie record is Most Bad Guys Melted by Opening the Arc. I love Most Guys Crunched by a Big Rolling Boulder. Oh, so good. Most undergrad co-ed throwing themselves at you while giving a lecture. Guys, do we think Russell has seen either, any Indiana Jones movie? He has to. Of course he has. He has to. Russell, have you... Have you seen any Indiana Jones movie?

[04:00]One scene where he rips the guy's heart out. Temple of Doom, I believe, where he rips the guy's heart out. No, I've never... I couldn't tell you one Harrison Ford line from an Indiana Jones movie. Not one. Russell, does he like snakes? I couldn't tell you any lines either. What? Snakes? Why does it have to be snakes? Bad dates? Come on, guys. There's so many good ones. Okay, Russell, I know that you've... I piqued your interest with those lines. Listen, okay? Hey, Russell. Let's... Matt and Aaron and John from Edina discussed the podcast on movies a few weeks ago at the bar, so you don't need to be involved. That... We're fine. That's a dagger. Wow. That's a dagger. We have a pretty good plan for the main host, too. You know, for the first time since I've done the Rob and John show, I get how hurt you guys are, because that was an absolute dagger to my soul. I came up with a fucking idea for that podcast. God damn. All right, here we go. Let's turn on K-Rob. And I'm not going to lie, Pavement, not one of the easier bands to do a parody song to.

[05:05]So sometimes you just wing it, maybe do one take. What's up, everybody? Welcome to K-Rob. K-R-O-B. You know, sometimes you know the parody songs so well that you can just come up with a song in two seconds. And sometimes you have no idea what any of the songs on the album are, so you just got to sing about something you're thankful for. Oh, yeah. Parody songs. I was nervous and I was wondering how I can sing to this, but then I realized that there is no rhyming, but sometimes, well, I can't resist. The parody songs are the highlight of the podcast. You should create a Spotify playlist of just the parody songs. Who knows? Maybe I'll follow the footsteps of Rob. I'll become a crafty. I'll become a crafty song parody writer. But in all seriousness, keep up the good work and thanks for making a fun podcast that I

[06:02]can go to launch to. Oh! This guy's kid's recording. So I could sing about whatever I want to. I could make some clever song about the guys. But instead, I will give thanks to something that has been the main thing in this podcast for all these years. Masterbating, masturbating, masturbating, masturbating, masturbating, this song is now about masturbating. When you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time, but you're just too lazy to look You got to do what comes to the heart. You know what I mean? That's fine. If you want to hear from guys who chat and then they get off the top of their heads. This is the only part of the song where I was like waiting. I know what I'm going to rhyme there. Let's just write the rest of it. Let's get to that. Jack. Beck did it better. Welcome, everybody.

[07:01]I've got three guys here, plus me. I'm a person, too. Nobody ever seems to point that out. We want to go through the Rolling Stones. Well, we don't want to. We're forced to go through the Rolling Stones best 500 albums and talk about the list. Today, we've got Pavement with Slanted and Enchanted. For that song, I did go through our voicemail and type in the word parody songs. And those were the two messages that came up. So once again, hours of my life resulting in two positive notes. Actually worth it for me. I'll take it. I've got Matt in Minneapolis. Matt, how are you doing today? Good, Rob. My eyes stick to all those shiny robes that you're always wearing. Wow. Wow. I definitely know what song that's from. Russell, how's it going with you today in Minneapolis? Guys, let's pretend that this podcast is a trust knot and we're going to watch my yarn of twine unravel. Wow. It's longer than you thought, isn't it, Rob? I'm taller than you thought. It's my yarn. It's longer than you thought. Russell and I were hanging out in person the other day.

[08:01]And once again, I marveled. I marveled at how tall he was. It was crazy. Listen, I didn't know Aaron was a chef. So why does he keep saying, boy, are these balls tasty? I got a question to ask you, Drew. I'm not a chef. Why do you keep feeding me soup? Do you guys remember that song? Got a man. I don't know any lyrics from Slanted and Enchanted, but I'm excited to discuss it with you gentlemen who... Could I give you a second one? Could I do Aaron's intro? Please do. Hey, Rob, could you introduce me again, please? I've got Russ in Minneapolis. Aaron. Okay, I've got Aaron. I didn't know he was a chef, but he keeps saying, boy, are these balls tasty? Oh, I nailed it that time. Aaron, how are you doing? Rob, do you have any tips on how to make this rotten old tree bear fruit? Oh. Yeah, losing weight doesn't help. I'll just put it that way. I thought things would be much different. It's not. Listen. Okay, let's not mess around.

[09:00]Let's get right into our voicemail. The freak's on the phone. Why not? The freak's on the phone. Whoa. Don't leave me alone. Two questions. Number one, what's your take on brands not providing air conditioning in the Olympians' rooms? Okay, let's just stop right there. What do you think? If you're going to the Olympics, you're an athlete, you're going to the Olympics, you're going to the Olympic Village, no air conditioning in your room. It's insane. Insane. Insane? Insane. This summer right now, I mean, yeah, it could get over 90 degrees. That's... Well, I just, I happen to know, because my wife went over there, my wife, a couple summers ago to get a tattoo in Germany. And she can tell you that story sometime soon. But, so she stayed in Paris for a few days. If you're going over there, you might as well go over there. If you're going over there, you might as well go over there. If you're going over there, you might as well go over there. If you're going over there, you might as well go over there. If you're going over there, you might as well go to Paris because it's awesome. And she was trying to find an Airbnb and you could, she could not find one that had air

[10:03]conditioning. It's just, it's like a cultural thing. They just do not have it. That's not uncommon, right? Yeah. They just do not have it there. And so finally she found some place that claimed to have it and it didn't really have it, but she made the best of it and it was hot like that. But picture, and you're going to run the fastest mile you're ever going to attempt in your life. And the night before is one of those nights that you know exactly what I'm talking about. No sheets. Can't sleep. Yeah. Can't sleep. Sweat in your ears. That's how the French dude grew up. You know, like he didn't grow up with air conditioning, things like that. So it's like home field advantage. Now it's fucked. They should absolutely have it. Yeah. Guess what? Guess what? By that logic, people, we should still live in caves. Like that's okay. Like, no, this is, this is 2024. Get the air conditioning. Can I ask a question? Because I feel like air doesn't have air conditioning either. How hot, how hot is it in France, man? How hot is it in Paris? Well, I don't know. It was, it was the nineties. It was like 90s. It was like 95 when Sarah was, that's bad. Yeah.

[11:00]Yeah. It's real bad. Now, Aaron, does it ever get hot enough for you where you wish you had air conditioning? Yeah. It's a whole saga right now. We've got two different quotes for a heat pump. We can't decide which company we're going to go with. It is expensive, but we got one from a more established company, one from some young kind of upstarts. And yeah, every time we had a heat wave this week, every time there's a heat wave, we're like, we got to do this. And like last night, my son was like, I can't sleep. I'm too hot. And then, but then it lasts like three days and then it's over and then you don't need it the rest of the year. This, this boggles my mind. Cause I cannot stand like the, I'm like an Uber sweater and like Aaron's Aaron is a sweaty dude. I've seen him and like Aaron, it's, it's not like Aaron's out of shape or any Aaron's in good shape and everything has nothing to do with it. But Aaron, like the thought of like Aaron sitting in like an 85 degree house, I cannot imagine it. It was 81 in here today. Yeah, it was 81 here, but now it's cooled off. Like it's, but then it gets down, it's going to get down to 58 tonight. This is going to be fine. By the time I go to sleep. Oh, if I could sleep with the windows open to 58, I wouldn't have to tape my mouth.

[12:02]I'd be sleeping like the dead. Oh, that sounds so good. It's going to be beautiful. I mean, I will say in this laundry room right now, it's 10 degrees warmer than the rest of the house. So right now I'm sweating my balls off, but once I get out of here, I'm feeling good. But yeah, this is like, Oh God, you've got the world's best athletes. You got to get them some AC. Like you can't have them. That's messed up. Especially there's got to be enough of those athletes. That are used to having it. Can you imagine being like, you're the U S sprinter. You're the guy going to set the world record. Aaron, you and Neil from Lakeville know all these guys' names and everything. You know, all the, the numbers, the nine, seven, nines, you know, imagine you're going for that record in the few nights before that you get zero sleep because it's 85 degrees in your room. No way. It's terrible. I have run into people before that know about track, not just during the Olympics. And it always blows my mind. How do you keep up on runners when it's not the Olympics?

[13:00]Like, how do you know these people? Mostly YouTube and Twitter. Like I just follow the, you know, I know I follow the events and like check on what's going on. I'm going to have to stop you right there. What are you talking about? Following the events? Like on Twitter, do you follow like the 1600 meter? Like what, what does that mean? You follow the, no, it's mostly like a couple of guys. Like there's one guy named Travis Miller who writes a lot about track and he's like tweeting like, here's what happened in the diamond league today. Or like Femke Bull just won, you know, set a new record. A new personal best in Oslo or wherever. And so it's, it's just like you follow the results and you go like, Oh, I might want to watch that race on YouTube. And you go check it out later that night. I know what you're talking about though. Cause I'm well into the world. Thanks to Tik TOK. I know a lot about Brazilian models. I feel like that's my track athlete. I know what's going on. All right, here we go. And two, what's your favorite summer Olympic event? Bye. Wow. What is our favorite summer Olympic event guys? We're talking Olympics. It's that time of the two years. Again, we have now been on this podcast long enough where we have played this bit twice.

[14:06]Oh my God. It's our second Olympics. It is best. It's our second Olympics. It doesn't feel good. That's crazy. Now tell me, what is your favorite summer winter sport? Matt, what do you think? Let's Aaron, what do you think? What's your favorite summer winter sport? Summer Olympic sport. Damn it. I mean, it's, you know, it's track for me. I think, I think I'm gravitating toward the 200 meter dash. I feel like that's my favorite. It's I've been a hundred meter dash guy. Like I'm simple. I like the raw speed. Obviously over the last few years, the 400 meter hurdles on both the men's and women's has been amazing. Cause you've had Carson of our home versus Ray Benjamin on one side. You've had Cindy McLaughlin on the other. And these are incredible. People, Cindy McLaughlin and Leveroni. Now these are incredible athletes to watch, but I think for me, I'm going to be extra tuned in for the 200 meters, but I'm going to watch all of it.

[15:04]Any track event. That's what I'm about. Yeah. Russell, what's your favorite track event? Cause I think Matt's doing the same thing I am doing, which is Googling Olympic summer sports, like events. What is going on? What do you think? I just did what I did. It would be Taekwondo. Taekwondo pops up. Like, I mean, who doesn't love hitting someone with some right in the chain mail, right in the front of the chain mail, right in the face. Yeah. Yeah. Russell, I think you're thinking of fencing. Fencing perhaps? Fencing. Yeah. Fencing. Yeah. And then with your foil, right? I did watch the U.S. basketball friendly the other night because of Ann Edwards, the Timberwolves. I'm waiting for Ann Edwards to take over the, I could care less about the U.S. Olympic team. I want Ann Edwards to just dominate. I'll be all in on hoops. You know, here's, here's, I feel like Aaron will be annoyed. He probably knows this is coming. I kind of want to see the U.S. team get beat. Yeah.

[16:00]I, I, you know, like some of these games mean way more to other countries. Like this is where like hockey means more to Canada than it means to us. Like I would rather have Canada win if they play the U.S. in hockey because it means way more to their fans and their country than it does to our fans. But if Canada, yeah, but if Canada beats and beats us in basketball, that means Dylan Brooks beat us in basketball. We can't have that. Canada is probably going to beat us in basketball. But I did sign a field game. Andrew Wiggins plays his best five games of his career. I mean, right. That's going to hurt. They can't have that. Russell, what, what country is going to win basketball? And that's more important. You don't think the U.S., the motherfucking U.S. of A is the most important basketball country in the world? Are you fucking out of your mind? Anthony Edwards is on the team. I'm cheering for, I'm cheering for the U.S. I'm in. Exactly. Exactly. U.S. and I got news for you. They're going to beat ass. They are going to kill everybody. Okay. It's going to be crazy. What if Wemby goes off, though? What if Wemby takes over?

[17:00]Rudy Gobert. I can cheer for, I can cheer for a team. Les Incompetents. However you say it. I'm done with France. I'm done with Wemby and Rudy Gobert taking out the U.S. I, I'm cheering. I like cheering against the favorites. I want the upset. I want someone who is going to appreciate that forever. LeBron wins a gold medal. It's like number 25 on his list of accomplishments. Wemby and Rudy. Rudy Gobert, take it down. Les Incompetents. I got news for you. The problem with France is, yeah, Rudy Gobert, fun. Wemby, a blast. The guy guarding Steph Curry is going to be some fucking trash collector. Okay? We are going to beat his ass like a bass drum at a Metallica concert. It's going to be out of this world. I don't think they will. Okay? I'm excited for a little basketball. It's going to be called the air conditioning revenge when we beat them. The shit, the living shit out of the French. It's going to be great. Matt, what do you think?

[18:00]Oh, I just, I mean, you go through the whole list and there's just a ton of great, like, non-popular sports, if you will, or I don't know what you mean with the professional leagues. You got basketball, you got hockey, but I mean like the volleyball, watching the countries play the indoor volleyball. Not so much. The beach is okay, but I love watching the, uh, the world volleyball. And again, that is some, a sport where it's huge in the United States, right? Yeah. But all the pro leagues are over in Europe. And so I think it's fun to watch. Uh, what else say like, when did, when did he ever watch table tennis? When do you ever watch ping pong? Like watching Olympic ping pong to me is awesome. Um, there was another one. What was it? Oh, you know what? Badminton. Badminton is Rob likes bad bin. I can't imagine why you got the gymnastics. You got the track. I mean, those are the obvious ones. They're, they're all fun to watch. Right. But like, I just like watching the other ones too. I think there's, uh, they got rowing. That's, you know, rowing is fun because it's, it's one where it's a team sport.

[19:04]It's not too long and you can tell who wins easily. It's, you don't need to know any rules. They're just rowing boats faster than you guys. Cause canoeing is pretty bad ass too. There's canoeing. And I was going to say, I was going to tell Aaron that I'm a, uh, I'm an 800 guy because there used to be a guy named Steve Holman in the 84, 88 Olympics from Richfield. So Richfield's finest was. Oh, an Olympian, uh, went to Georgetown and then was in the Olympics. So I've always watched the 800 because of that. The 800 is a great race. 800 is a great race. Imagine if they led broom ball in the Olympics. It'd just be all Richfield. It'd be like, it'd be craziness. It'd be nuts. It'd be nuts. Introducing Kim Niederlucky standing on the podium. Kim Niederlucky. Right. The whole team would be from Richfield. Now, unfortunately you guys are incorrect again. Okay. The correct answer this year is flag football. I'm going to be watching some flag football. I'm going to be enjoying it. Guys, I got news for you.

[20:01]It's the new wave of football. Okay. No concussions. It's the safest way to do it. Everybody's going to be doing flag football full time. No blown out knees. Shout out to Robert Edwards. Oh God. Oh God. Get my, get my Olympic rant out. There's three on three basketball, which is great. I love that. That's like, it's like. But we're sending Jimmer. Jimmer for dead is our three on three basketball. We're sending Jimmer. This would legit be like sending Aaron as like, like, what are we talking about? Jimmer for dead. Jimmer for dead. Jimmer for dead. Jimmer for dead. Jimmer for dead. Like, yeah, it'd be like if we had like an Olympic sport called opera singing and Aaron went and Aaron's a great opera singer, but he hasn't fucking sung in 25 years. Like, yeah, how is if Jimmer for dead is like a potential medalist in the sport, right? The sport's got to go away, right? Yeah. How are we not just sending like, why don't we just send De'Aaron Fox, Malik Monk and Keegan Murray? And then they would fucking destroy it. Like, why don't we do that? Guys, there is no other player who scouted. As many Chinese basketball games as Jimmer for dead. That's why he's going.

[21:00]He's a, he knows all of them. He played for the Shanghai Sharks. Like they put, they put a medal on his neck. What are we, what are we talking about here? It's, you know what? Shut it down. Dream team. Okay. Dare I say it? Dream team. Huh? Got the U S flag covering up all of the sponsors. He's got, Hey, I can't go under the stand. I'm a Popeye's guy. I can't do KFC. No, no, no, no. Popeye's is way too good. He would be sponsored by like Hardee's. You know what I mean? He'd be like, dude, if you, if you ever a pro athlete that was ever sponsored by Hardee's, you need to fucking retire. That's like the worst. It's like, listen, I got you Peter Pan peanut butter. You'd be like, yeah, I don't know if I could do that. That kind of is like admitting I'm no good. Right? Rolling going Aaron. Okay. Who happens to be sponsored by long John Silvers. Okay. I mean, I got, I used to get sick from lunch on Silvers. I don't think it's a good idea to eat long John Silvers.

[22:00]I wonder what could have made Aaron sick at long John Silvers. I wonder. Is it that you have teenagers cooking fish for you? Yeah, that didn't work out. I got to be straight. Have you ever met a teenager? You do not want them cooking fish that you're going to put in your mouth. It's not like they were dredging the fish back there. Like I'm sure a lot of stuff was frozen, right? Just going straight from the freezer. Oh yeah. And I totally trust them to cook it for the appropriate amount of time. They're definitely not going to slack and do the wrong thing. Can you imagine what the food safety issues are there? I'm not sure how that works entirely. We should right now dare each other. Go to long John Silvers, order some popcorn. They don't exist anymore. Do they? Oh yeah. Yeah. They're out there still. Where's the closest long John Silvers? Matt, everybody. Everybody look at it. Let's look at long John Silvers. Where's the closest? Real far away. It's real close in Cannon Falls. I think. Oh, it's so close. Long John Silvers. Now I am at the cabin, so it's going to be a ways away from me. I mean, it's like there's one in the mall of America, guys.

[23:00]Now my friend Suzanne is visiting from New York city. Should I take her to the mall of America and take her to long John Silvers? And we're going to fucking hammer some popcorn shrimp. Would that give her the true Minnesota? Nice. Most of them anywhere near me are permanently closed, but there is Russell. This is for you. There's a off of 80 between Fairfield and Vacaville. There is a long John Silvers slash KFC. Wow. It's just like, well, they're like, well, we got the grease. Can you imagine if you, if you, if you went up there and ordered long John Silvers, you would see an employee jump through a glass window to get out of there because they would not know what to do. Well, because they probably switch. They probably switch uniforms. Like, oh, it depends on what you order. They like, but on the, they spin it around. Rob, excuse me a second. We're playing. We're three on three. We're flag football team. Who's the quarterback? What do you think? Got to be Matt. No question. Honestly, I might, I might, I might take myself second.

[24:02]Oh, after that. Yes. You got to bet on yourself. You got to be able to see over the line. You got to bet on yourself. Oh, wow. That feels like a shot at me. You weren't, you weren't gloves. You're the center. You're the center, but you're like a center. You don't even hike it through your legs. You flip it back like sideways. That's that's your, that's your, I'm having serious flashbacks to elementary school where I would get picked last. Oh, second to last. Okay. I'm not that big of a loser. Listen, we're only going, how's it going with you, Aaron? How's it going with you? Oh, it's going great. You know, it's, it's one of those up and down kinds of things. Uh, I saw the New York times did a list of the hundred best books of the century. And I had, I had actually read a couple of those books. So I felt pretty good about that. Um, so I feel good about myself about that, but I'm struggling. Uh, I had read brief history of seven killings was one of them. Uh, the sympathizer was another one that I read. Sounds erotic. The synthesizer bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump.

[25:04]Also station 11 by Emily St. John Mandel. Uh, that one I've read. That was wonderful. Those were the three off top minutes. I felt good that I had, I had read some of the best books. Many of them. I have not, there was, there was like several Elena Ferrante books on there. I don't know her at all. There was a Roberto Bolaño book I should probably read. And then there were, um, there was more nonfiction on there than I usually get into. So I got to get back. I got to get back into the list. It was also fun. Cause you can look up, they pulled authors for this. So it's very similar to the Rolling Stone list. Um, so you can look up and see like, Oh, Stephen King's, you know, choices that, you know, that's funny. You're proud. That's what Anna said. She was like, we should do a new podcast. Well, maybe she and I could do a podcast. Yeah. You and I can do a podcast. Oh, what I want to know guys is what I'm down. I'm going to interrupt you. Yeah. What is the key to reading? Oh, what is the key to reading and getting into books? I can't read. I can't do it anymore. I just don't have, I don't have, I can't do it.

[26:00]Do you guys read book, Matt? Are you a book reader? Aaron? Yeah. There's no way Rob sits down with a book. No way. Oh, excuse me, sir. You play video games. You're a video game gal. I haven't played a video game. I played a video game one day this summer. That's it. When I was in Hawaii, I read three books. No way. Yeah. Of course. Three books? Yeah. In a week? Amazing. You guys are so, you guys are making me so fucking mad by being. I'm impressed by this. I read a whole book in a week? Listen, well, I was on vacation, but listen, Russell, you know what I do? Here's the key. What's the key? And then we'll see what Matt has to say. It's just like everything else you do. You know what I did? I like reading science fiction. That's it. That's all I read. I don't need to read other shit. I mean, it's probably good for me. I'm not going to do it. Embrace what you like. I am now going through a list of every science fiction book that won both the Hugo and Nebula Award, and I just read them. That's guaranteed to be the best science fiction books ever. It's probably something you should know if you like science fiction like I do. So I just said, I'm going to read every book. I know it's going to be a banger.

[27:00]I'm just going to do it. That's, that's, it's, it's just like everything else. You make a list and you work your way through it. It tells you what to do next. That's how I watch my action movies with my podcast. That's how I read my books now. Okay. Now that I'm back in like the real world and not on the Hawaii beaches, I have to admit, I'm not reading as much, but Russell, what I would do every night, every night, five minutes. That's it. Yeah. That's how you get into a book. You got to find a good book. If it's something you like and just put in, don't look at your phone during the day too. Like I, if I can get five minutes in during the day, if I do that instead of looking at my phone, then I feel better. Cause then it's like, cause then that night I can watch the tour or whatever. What I am reading right now is a book called the bear comes home. This is by Rafi's a bore. I found this one on Instagram is written in like 1995. It is about, did I tell you guys about this? It's about a bear that plays the alto saxophone and is a jazz saxophone playing bear. The fuck? Now. This bear is I want everybody to hear this. What the hell is he talking about?

[28:01]Oh God. Stop so fast. Go ahead. Great stuff. The bear is really wrestling with the artistic process. What does it mean to be a bear who also has some human tendencies wrestling with his own insecurities about his playing because he's not really on the level of some of his idols, but how far is it? I'm going to the book. Do you guys think I get before the bear is having sex with a woman in a very graphic way? What are we talking about? Yes. I'm reading this book. It's about jazz. Page 58. I think the book. Yeah. Yeah. I think the book's about jazz. Aaron mentioned the bear wrestling with his insecurities and it got a little real for me. And then like, yeah, what are we talking about? This is ridiculous. All of a sudden I get to a page where the bear is having sex with a woman. It's like a 20 page long description of the bear having sex with this lady. I don't want to read it anymore, but I got to finish. I'm like page 330 out of 600. I got to finish it.

[29:00]That's the one thing I've learned with reading is you don't have to finish. You don't. It's true. You don't. I just, I just move on. You have to. I've started moving on and it's only been the last couple, three, four years that I've started doing that, but. I find it just sees how much, it depends on how much sleep I got the night before. My last question is how can you guys back float in a pool? Yep. God, I can't do it. What the hell? What's the secret? Can I? Can I say something? And I'm not being vain. Okay. Do you guys promise that you won't think I'm vain? Bring it on. My legs sink when I do that because they're too muscular. They sink right down to the bottom. Is that what it is? For some reason, my upper body doesn't do it as much, but my legs go right down to the bottom. Aaron, I can do it. You know what? I've got to, I have reached the point. I don't want any, I don't want water in the ears. I don't want to have, I don't want to have like the day where I've got the water and I'm doing the ears shake. I don't want, I don't want to deal with water. I don't want to deal with water in the ears. So like I can swim, I can go underwater, but there's that point of, if you go backwards, water's going in the ears.

[30:01]I can't do water in the, I'm out on water in the ears. Why don't you just be, you just got to be a earplug guy. No, no. Then I got to get a nose plug. Then I got to get goggles. I've got to do all this shit. I'm not doing that. Do it, man. Do the whole thing. I'm just not flowing backwards. I don't know, man. I can't. I'm working on it. I haven't figured it out yet. How's it rolling going with Russell? Oh, that's so good. I'm doing pretty damn good. Yes. Here we go. I, um, we talked last week about fever up, how I went to the, the concert candlelight concert for the hip hop fever up, had another cool event that we went to recently and it was called the Edgar Allen Poe speakeasy. Wow. This speakeasy was at the Gale mansion. Oh, Aaron, have you ever been to the Gale mansion? Tell me about the Gale mansion. I was there one, only once I got married. There was really beautiful, beautiful day. Really wonderful time.

[31:00]I was actually thinking about this. We went in and this was the Edgar Allen Poe speakeasy. What they were doing is like four rounds of drinks kind of had a, had a spooky theme to them. And they were going to do is maybe you guys know this better than I do. Edgar Allen Poe, these stories, the telltale heart, the Raven, are these poems, are they short stories? I don't know what you consider these. Is it poetry or is it short stories? Short stories. Short stories. Short stories. I think you could say long poems maybe, but I would say it's more like an ode. No, it's not. Sorry. Keep going. Rob, I'll show you my long poem. But so anyways, so we go to this event and you get it, Rob, like untwine, like we were talking about earlier, but no, we go to this event and the way they set it up is it's like an hour and a half long show. Oh, so what they were going to do is they have four people who are going to go up and tell these short stories over like a 15, 20 minute show. 20 minute period. You get a new cocktail with every short story. So there's four stories, the Raven, the telltale heart, something about a cat.

[32:02]And I forgot the other one, but, but they give you a couple of drinks, something about meow. I don't know. Yeah. And then there's some Lenore, listen more or something like that. Whatever the more one is, but something about Lenore. You're right, Rob, you know, all this stuff, but it was a great time. They went in and you know what? I got to give these people who do this credit. It's very entrepreneurial. There's like four or five. There's only five people working there. There are four people that are doing the, the presentations, if you will, the acting out the scenes, you know, they're, they're up there by themselves, but they're making the drinks. They're serving the drinks. They're clearing the drinks and they're doing the show all on their own. What? So, so wait a minute. So you're, oh, wait a minute. You're going to a thing. They're playing spooky music. They are then acting out. Oh, my God. The stories. Yeah. So they do. And then, so, so let me get this. An actor will be like, and then they locked my ass behind the bricks.

[33:00]And boy, that taught me a lesson or whatever. And then that person goes, oh, are you done with those shrimp? And then they come and take your plate and walk into the back or like right off the stage. There's no food, Rob. It's only drinks. Yes. But so that is crazy. So at one point you see like the person who's up there doing the telltale heart. 20 minutes later is the person busing your drink or serving you your next round of drink. But I got to say, these people did an amazing job. They got up there and there were one or two of them that were fantastic. You were, you were clinging to every word they were saying over like the 15 minute. And they're telling you about how they were feeling when they killed this cat. And when they buried their spouse's husband in the wall of the basement, it was so good. The drinks, I was told by the upstairs roommate were a little too sweet. It just means Russ got double the drinks on every round upstairs. Roommate wasn't having any of the drinks. But I drink every damn one of them. I got, I got into the, the Edgar Allen Poe. And here were the drink names.

[34:00]We had a pale blue eye, which Rob had citrus and blueberry infused vodka, fresh squeezed lemon juice. Oh no, we're doing every simple syrup. All right. Topped with a blueberry eye. Oh, what? I was told by the upstairs roommate drinks with simple syrup. Not happening. That was one of the drinks we can go through. Well, we're known to need to go through all four. But it wasn't Russell. We actually do. Let's let's drink. Number two. Let's go. Drink. Number two is the cat's meow. Aged bourbon with fruity brandy. Wow. Accompanied with a vanilla cinnamon milk with sweet cream. A lot of milk. A lot of milk. A lot of milk going down the hatch here. And maple syrup, Rob. Wow. That is very sweet. Very sweet drink. Next one with the Raven. We've got a Nevermore.

[35:01]Fresh lime juice. Okay. Wait, what? This is a Nevermore. Yeah. This is the third one now. Third one. Round three, if you will. Getting up to like number two or three. So, so far, Russell has had four drinks at this thing. Yes. Nevermore. Good start. Fresh lime juice. Oh, I thought you said slime. Slime juice last time. I was like, what's slime juice? Wait for it, Aaron. Can you imagine? Although you do, you have to, you have to admit this. When you see Slimer, you do kind of think about putting them into a big press and drinking when it comes out, don't you? Because you know what comes out. Check it out. Ecto-cooler. Ecto-cooler. You know what's Ecto-cooler. That stuff is great. We saw Jeff from Apple Valley send a picture of that drink today that looked like Ecto-cooler. Ecto-cooler. It looked good. The perfect summer drink. You know what? Honestly, it looked better than any drink I've ever seen you send us, Rob. So it's like funnier, better looking. Better athlete. I mean, he drinks better drinks than you too. You fingered me so softly. This Nevermore drink also included peach and orange infused vodka.

[36:04]That's where we're getting the peaches involved. There we go. Get them in there. Get those peaches involved. Peaches. Let's do a little simple syrup, which means upstairs roommate ain't drinking it. It's coming to the rust man. It's coming to the rust man. Yes. And crushed charcoal. What? Wait a minute. Crushed charcoal. What? Crushed charcoal? Going backwards. Last drink on the list. The cocktail of red death. Oh, God. Oh, wow. So, so far, so far you've had fruits. You've had a normal drink. You had one that from what I could tell was mostly milk. And then you had one with charcoal in it. Yes. Russell, did you pay over $5.65 for this event? It was worth every damn penny, Rob. All right. Honey, I can't. I drank too much charcoal tonight. Please. You know what I will say about this? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I was so impressed. They did, I believe, three shows on Friday. I think it was seven or eight shows on Saturday and another four on.

[37:01]We went. Everything was sold out over three days. We went to. This is when you know you got a problem. Oh, my God. When you go to an Edgar Allen's post speakeasy at 4 p.m. on a Sunday, you got a fucking issue. You gotta look at the mirror yourself and be like, what am I doing here drinking these drinks at 4 p.m. on a Sunday? Right? Yes. Right? Because you leave and there's still, it's still light outside. And everyone is still light outside and people are getting in line for the next show air. So it's, it's, it's like 530 on a Sunday and you're like eight drinks deep by the end of this thing. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. You've had so much charcoal. Honey. Double two rounds. Honey. I know I told you I wasn't going to drink any more charcoal. I couldn't help. Myself. It's part of the drink. Rob, you want to know what almost was the end of me and the upstairs roommate at this cocktail party? No, we don't have time.

[38:00]Yes, of course. Russell, give it to me right now. We had a drink and the upstairs roommate had it. And there was like this super intense part of where they're telling like the telltale heart and like you're super into it. Upstairs roommate started crunching her ice on her drink. Like, so you're sitting there and you're so into it. And then there's just ice crunching next to you. Who's crunching this ice? Oh, it's mine. And it's the worst because little do the people around you who are furious, they each paid $7 and 77 cents after a Groupon to come to this thing. And they are absolutely furious. They cannot hear what's going on. And yet they don't know that somebody in the audience is having a worse time. And it's Russell thinking about whether or not to shush her. And Russell decides on what does Russell decide on a little touch on the arm? I bet. Did you do a little touch? Touch on the arm. And that was it was a turn. It was like a turn in a look. And did that get met with a super nasty look coming back? Because I could see that happening for sure.

[39:00]It ended the ice crunching, but it probably caused me more problems afterwards. Yep. I got to tell you, Russell, here's some advice from somebody who's with somebody similar. It doesn't matter what anybody else thinks. They're not going to be with you the next day. Okay. Because that person is crunching the ice. Let them crunch. Okay. They they will not forget the next day. Okay. Quoth, quote, quote, quote, me raven. Never more. Should you shush your date ever? Just trust me. You got to eat it. Quote, Russell. Never more. Matt rolling going. I was going with you. Ah, good. I don't got too much. Stop. Stop. Apologize. I have a song. We're going to play a song. Okay. Let's hear a song. The song that I would want to hear is save it for later by Eddie Vedder. On the bear. On the bear. Oh, I was. I've been watching the bear. Neil from Neil from Lakeville has been watching it recently. Matt, him and I were talking about it. It's very bad. It's a tough show to watch.

[40:00]So well done. It's just really look how they do it. Amazing show. But one of the big scenes, they played this save it for later song, which I believe is done by who's the band who does the normal, the original, the English beat is the one who does it. But there's a version by Eddie Vedder and they're showing the whole city of Chicago here. Amazing song. And Matt, I would like to let this play while Matt's doing his role. This is such a great tune. I just, I've got, I've got list clean up day to day. Okay. Now, have we other figured out flashlight under flashlight for men's photos of feet? You're so good. Yeah. People wonder why I do the podcast. I had one of them probably in some sort of drunken stupor, you know, back, back to the office. How are we handling? And I realized we've talked about that like three times. So I crossed that one off the list a long time ago, but, um, I've a couple of things in the Skyway that I've seen and I'm wondering why they, why they don't catch on with other

[41:04]people. I saw a lady pulling a wagon in the Skyway and it didn't look like she was like, it looked like she was going to work and it didn't look like she had like a lot of things, but she had like her lunchbox and her backpack in her wagon going to work. Are you surprised that more people don't? Pull away. I remember the people used to pull like rolling suitcases, but a wagon is like, that's next level. I like it. What are you guys talking about? It's like somebody's pulling a wagon. I think it's great. If I saw somebody pulling a wagon, I would go kick their ass. You can't just be pulling a wagon around. You can't just be kicking people's ass. We live in a society. A society that rules. We can't kick people's asses. If they have a wagon. I like it. Aaron, this is probably particularly if they have a wagon. It's not just, just. It's a life lesson. It's not the fucking Oregon trail. We just. If you can't carry your stuff, you got too much stuff. But at the same time, it was like, you know, probably pretty practical.

[42:01]Just pull the wagon. Next thing, there was a guy. Can you imagine though, when you get back to your car, you've got to lift the wagon up and put it into the truck. Good luck with that. That sounds like a pain in the ass. Oh, now you got to get a bigger car because you have to have somewhere to store your wagon. Oh, well now you need a bigger house to store your bigger car because you got to need somewhere to store the wagon. Where does it stop? Well, I got another one for you. I legit, I was sitting outside Dave's downtown, one of, uh, Barry from Burnsville, one of his favorite spots to go to breakfast. Um, and I'm waiting for a buddy. We're going to go just get a bowl of soup. And a guy walks by and he's with other people from his office. He's got a legit kilt on. A legit kilt. Nice. Are you guys surprised that kilts have not taken off more than they are? They're not. I mean, if you're a five. I mean, short guy, you might as well go to the kilt, right? It seems to go. This is comfortable. Can you imagine how good that feels on your balls? Just picture it right now. You're wearing a kilt.

[43:01]You're, you're walking around downtown. No seams up under there. Wearing a kilt. Oh God, I would love that. No seams? I haven't thought about such a world. So it just, there was a guy who was wearing a kilt and it made sense. And like, you know, how come that's not taken off more? I don't know. With that little, uh, bag they have in the front. It's like a fanny. It's a fanny pack. It's brilliant. Yeah. Uh, next, last couple of things. We went up to, went up to North Dakota for, uh, over the 4th of July weekend. Of course, one of the great things, we go to the, the Belva, which is home to Dots Pretzels. Dots Pretzels were born in Belva, North Dakota. We go to the Belva parade every year on the 4th at 10 o'clock. It goes right down Main Street. We sit at Main and, Main and First or something. We sit right, right there. Um, but so the, the best part of that is, is taking a look at the t-shirts. And really, there's only a couple of really good t-shirts this year. Oh yeah, here we go. You know, at a 10 o'clock, 10 o'clock in the morning. Yes. At the town parade.

[44:00]Give it to me. One guy walks by and he's got a shirt that says, you look like I need a beer. It's 10 in the morning. What do kids ever wear? Good start. Good start. Good start. Rob likes, look at Rob. Look at Robby. Look at Robby. He likes it. He's going through his closet this day, this day and he's like, wow, I only got one. I only got one shirt that's red, white, and blue. So I better put it on. An ad at the end of the video? Now you're fucking me for real. And then the last one, there was, so there wasn't too many, but there was a couple of these and it was like, you know, big black, it was a black shirt, American flag, kind of a silhouette in the background, an eagle. And on the front of it, it just said, I'm voting for the convicted felon. I saw two of those in downtown. Okay. Well, yeah, we're wearing this. I'm just afraid. What am I doing with my life where I'm not making those shirts? Can you imagine? Sam Jacobson is going to win big. Former gopher player who defrauded those people going to win huge convicted felon, Sam Jacobson

[45:06]from the gopher. I mortgage fraud. Yeah. Mortgage fraud. I liked, I liked watching Sam Jacobson play so much. I had to get him those iTunes gift cards that he wanted, but he called me. He had a, he had a bunch of money. He just needed to unlock it with some iTunes gift cards. So that was my rolling going, Rob rolling going. How's it going to you guys? I got a big news for you. I'm going to talk about a flight tonight. I've alluded to it and I am going to tell you a vacation story. I know Russell gets mad and I go on vacations and never talk about it. Well, I've got a vacation coming up where the upstairs roommate is leaving earlier than me. She's going to, she's going to fly back on a flight tonight and she asked me, she goes, what do you think about me doing the first class upgrade? I said, you go for it. First class upgrade for the upstairs roommate on the way back from the Midgey airport.

[46:03]Well, technically I haven't, technically I haven't reimbursed anyone, Aaron. So let's not, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Yeah. When Russell kicks the women out of the family cabin, he sends their ass out first class. You're not missing that flight. Yeah. Baby, let me get you an Uber black, but you got to get out of here. This is the green cabin. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. Listen, here's the deal. Jenny has some issues with time changes. Okay. They affect her like nobody I've ever met in my life. She'll talk about it for weeks. Like when Joe Biden is like, yeah, I was like for two weeks. Everybody's like, that's crazy. I was like, actually, that's not crazy. That's actually a very normal part of your life is that you hear about jet lag for multiple weeks. It's actually quite normal. Now she will be president. We are flying back from Hawaii, leaving at 5 PM,

[47:01]landing at 9 AM the next day. A terrible flight for anything. What is the actual time in the air? 10 hours. 10 hours. Okay. My wife's number one dream. Jenny's number one dream of all time. Every time we pass them, she points them out. Delta one. Now Delta one is the seat in the very front of the plane. Look at Matt perk it up. Matt likes it. Matt likes this story already where you are in a pod by yourself. Russell, there are walls that go up. Nobody can see you. The chair goes all the way down into a bed all the way. It turns into a legit full on bed. Jenny gets upgraded to Delta one on this flight back. It's she has talked about it. This is literally honestly when it happened, I was happy for her because this is like an aspirational dream of hers. Okay. We,

[48:00]we get on the plane. My daughter and I, of course we're back in cattle car. We're like standing room only back there. Just the worst seats right by the bathroom. Somehow the lights always in my eyes. We go to Delta one. I look around. Oh, where's Jenny? I can't. She's not there. I said, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, because I know again, Russell, she's not there. She's not there. This is very bad for me. This is going to be a bad thing for me. I go back. She is back in comfort plus. And she said, I was upgraded, but then one of the chairs broke. So I could, so they had to move this person to my chair. And then they booted me back a level. Oh, and it was one of the saddest things that I've ever seen in my entire life. Oh, because I knew to have it there in your reach and then it's gone.

[49:00]No, no, no, no, no, no. This was sad because I knew that for the next two and a half weeks, almost every day, I was going to hear about how bad it is that somebody almost had Delta one. And it didn't have it. My life is a nightmare. Okay. I'll, I hear about Delta one, literally every day. I dare you. When you see your wife, my wife does just say Delta one. I get, there's a thousand percent. I will bet you a million dollars to your penny that she will bring up this story. If she had stayed in Delta one, would do they allow conjugal visits? Cause you kind of missed out there too. That'd have been so great. That doesn't even count as the 20,000 foot club. If you like, if you've got like a little pod, that, that, that's nice. No, I mean, I'm just saying like, it'd be something to do on the flight. Uh, yeah, that'd be great. And you know what I do, Aaron hit the stewardess button. Hey, watch this. Ooh, turn on the air too. Uh, now here's the thing.

[50:00]Hey, I bet she'd be like, did you ever know my husband's ankles could go behind his head? Get that call back, Rob. Oh my God. Well, no, that's it. We got to move on. I will tell you a good Reddit, a good Reddit, uh, feed is looking at the Delta. And then the, uh, everybody always talks about the upgrades they've gotten. And you see people who get like a Delta one upgrade for like 10,000 points or something. And everybody's just going bonkers for them. Cause usually that's like a $200,000 upgrade kind of a thing. So that's, that's a little bit of my, uh, we're doing Matt's kinks here. Uh, listen, we are talking about slanted and enchanted by pavement. Now here's, here's my attitude toward this album. If you like slanted and enchanted by pavement, you couldn't care less what I have to say about them. There's nothing I'm going to say that's going to, you love pavement and you are always going to love pavement and you're not going to get anything out of this podcast. Okay. You know what? You're good. Turn it off. If you like pavement already,

[51:00]just get out of here. You're not going to learn a thing from this. Matt knows what he's talking about. And when you saw the band name pavement was on this list and you were like, what the fuck is going on here? What is, there's a band name pavement. Do they mean garbage? Do they mean, what's some other words that sound like pavement garbage that are band names? Uh, sidewalk. Oh, Karen, you fucking nailed it. God damn it. That is the right in between garbage and pavement sidewalk. That's both. God damn. You're smart. I don't think there is a band called sidewalk, but oh, don't say that. They're dang it. There's got to be, there's got to be, there's got to be, there's got to be, uh, this is a band that pavement formed out in Stockton, California, 89. And essentially it's, it's from Stockton. This is a, yes. Yes. And here's the deal is that essentially this came out as a recording project. They were never going to, uh, they didn't want to do live gigs. This was just kind of a project they were doing, but their little things they sent out got so popular that they literally, I think this might be the truest. And I've said this a hundred times.

[52:00]This is the first indie band. This is the most important indie band. This might be the biggest indie band pavement never signed with a major label. Okay. However, if you read like through a blender top list of the nineties pavement is all over it. They are like your favorite music critics, favorite band. Like this is if you like pavement, I mean, is that true? The alternative music, you know, I mean, so it fit the indie college vibe, you know, and doing our own thing, get rid of the record companies. And then it fit absolutely right into the alternative rock, uh, genre. And so it kind of hit both of those. And so of course, all the obscure people and all the people who knew everything, this was like the ideal situation for them. These guys weren't on MTV. They weren't selling a million records. They weren't going to Iggy, pop and all those different festivals and stuff like that. So yeah, that's why everybody liked them. They kind of just held true. And you know what band we formally done that seemed to come up a lot when I was doing research on this band,

[53:00]the replacement, the replacements. These guys are so, I mean, they said, Oh, you're like this. And they're like, no, we love the replacements. Like this is a band that you can see definitely the replacements reaching out and just forming this band kind of whole cloth. They said that they, so pavement is a kind of band. They're so Indian fact. I think Matt makes a great point. There's, there's, there's so one of these alternative bands. They get both. Yes. How indie are they? Well, Russell. Okay. They're so indie that they sneak aboard a submarine and you wouldn't get that. Cause now here's the thing. Okay. Russell, have you ever heard of a crystal skull? Something to think about. Okay. My favorite Indiana Jones movie. Here's the thing is that these guys are so alternative. Yes. Why, why are, they're always snakes. I don't like snakes. Oh my God. Russell, you have seen it. He did it. He did it last week. That's good. Now, Russell, I have to ask you this. If Indiana Jones was like Devo,

[54:02]how would you say Indiana Jones is like the band Devo? What would you say to that answer? I whip it good. Thank you. See, you have seen it, Russell. You know it. You're a genius. Here's the thing. So into, so alternative. This band is so alternative that when they got booked on Lula, Lollapalooza, 95, they didn't, they did what they did for every concert. No set list. They never came up with a set list. They just went up and played whatever they wanted until they got pelted with mud and were forced to leave the stage. And this is the last and the only album with the drummer, Gary Young, who was kicked out. If you look at who's been in this band, there's been tons and tons of, of, of members. However, this is the only band that we've done so far that has appeared on an episode of space goes coast to coast. One of my favorite shows of all time, and so therefore this is one of my favorite bands of all time. Let's get into pavement slanted and enchanted. And I will tell you this, when you're doing, trying to do parody songs and you listen to the album and literally none of the

[55:05]words rhyme, it's challenging. This is your genre way more than me. I heard smashing pumpkins with this opening song. This is, I don't know what comes first, but the same thing or no. Uh, yeah, no, it's called the lo-fi or the noise pop is how they technically define it, which I, you know, I kind of get the lo-fi more than noise pop and shoegaze and all that. Um, but you know, the lo-fi nature of it and that deep guitar, you hear it in a million bands, right? And especially in the early nineties, I think it's all great. And that's what draws me to this band right away. I hadn't heard this band of this band ever. You know, of all the, if you weren't at MTV, so I never heard of them. So when I heard this first song, the first time we were going, I was going through this list. I was hooked immediately. This group, arcade fire,

[56:01]uh, and a lot of Delray, you know, pavement, arcade fire. Those are the three bands that all of a sudden I got, I got hooked on from doing this project. And so I don't know. I don't know what you guys have been able to describe it. I could, that lo-fi guitar smashing pumpkins. It's not a little bit of, the other ones that you know is, but it's not like the California it's weird that they're from Stockton, right? It's not the California red hot chili pepper song they recorded in New York. Stockton is a pretty like, I don't know why it's kind of a lo-fi place. Like it was like shipping and the cattle yards at, you know, a long time ago. And then it's kind of like a in between sort of town where there's like, maybe not a lot going on. So like a lo-fi, lo-fi sound different kind of sense for, for guys. When you guys start about lo-fi, like I was, I actually have, I have nine pages of notes about lo-fi music. I was going to do a list, but I'm not going to do one,

[57:00]but lo-fi music is like, it's embracing kind of this, the imperfections of music, right? Like you can hear the static, you can hear the noise, you can hear the people chatting in the background or whatever. I was reading all about this, how this goes back to like the sixties and all these artists that did this and everything. You know, there's some, there's some artists out there other than pavement that did lo-fi in the nineties. That was really popular. And it's back. If you want to pull up, if you want to pull up a loser, whatever song I gave you, my back. If you look at, I was reading the best back song. There was, there was like a, this is lo-fi. He recorded this in his own kitchen, I believe. And part of it is that where you kind of recording in your own studio. There's not a lot of production. I would go through the whole thing, but it would take, take too long, but there's all these articles. If you read about lo-fi, especially in the nineties, people talk about lo-fi and like back is the pinnacle of lo-fi music in the early nineties.

[58:04]So I got to say, when you guys hear this stuff, when it comes to lo-fi music, you did it better. Did it better. It's, but it's interesting though, isn't it? Cause if you listen to back later, he goes the exact opposite. The way like the sea change and all those, I think they become very sonically lush. Very different. Yeah. It's interesting. Now this band is from Stockton. I grew up, I had a cousin, of course, I grew up in their twin city, uh, Hornacek, California. Oh, ah, ah, you're an idiot. You'll never be funny. These are jokes. I'm funny. That's one of your best ones ever. Oh my God. Yes. I was like, I feel so good now. Uh, trigger cut. Could you, uh, could you regale us with all your Caramelone, some jokes over the next 10 minutes or not? No. I will not. Uh, oh, wait a minute. Here we go. Trigger cut. Wounded kite. 17. Can we go back to the opening track?

[59:00]Yeah. The opening track feels like a, like very pop, not pop, Matt, but, um, it's very catchy. It feels sort of anthemic. Right. Yeah. It feels different from a lot of what comes after. Most of the rest of the album does not feel as like catchy or commercially. The, the first one, it feels like it could be a commercial hit to me. The rest of them do not. I don't know if you guys heard that or if you hear it differently, but what do you think? I would agree. It kind of fell out that way too, because Summer Babe is on a lot of lists of like the best songs of the 90s and things like that. And it's about the only song that had, I think, any commercial success at all. Not that they wanted it, but I think that's kind of the one that everybody picked up as their first song. Okay. To stop me here from the critics standpoint. No, I would agree. Oh, sorry. You guys are, God dang, you guys are smart. And me too. No life singed her. Oh,

[60:00]I got it. We got to go back once. We got to go back to trigger. We got to go back to trigger real quick. All right. Okay. Can you go see at the end there where it stops? And they do just this little kicker at the end. Right. And it's become kind of a popular thing to do. Like Pearl Jam still does this all the time now. And every, every time somebody has these little cool kickers at the end, I just love this song. This is the best song Pearl Jam's got on their new album. It's called waiting for Stevie. And they do this exact same thing. So I was listening to the album this week and I'm like, oh man, this has been around forever. So I don't know. I'm a big fan of the little tails at the end. That's cool. It's kind of fun when they're like, here's a little jam that's fun, but we can't make it into a song. You're like, yeah, sure. I'll take it. Great. It's like, it's like Rob's a little kicker at the end when he cries after sex. Right. What the hell? Sorry. I thought that would be funny, Rob. I apologize. Can I, can I say this guys? My hamstring cramp issue is getting worse. It's getting worse. It's almost every time now where I have to immediately go to the bathroom and

[61:03]spray hot water on my hamstring. Icy hot. It eases the pain. It's crazy. I had to do that like four times on the vacation. Hey, nice work if you can get it. Yeah. And the third time I came out and I go, oh God, that hamstring cramp hurts so bad. And Jane goes, oh, I didn't know you've been cramping up. I was like, I've been running to the bathroom right after for the last three times. And she's like, oh yeah, I didn't really think about it. I was like, what? She really has no idea what I woke to. In the mouth, a desert. I mean, do you think Weezer listened to any of these guys at all? Right. I mean, you can go down in this list and tracks and pick out a, for every song. Cause they are pretty unique. Each different song, you know, it's not like one song the whole time too. So you, you, you hear all sorts of, it's, it's, it's so interesting. It's before we started this podcast,

[62:00]I never thought about how artists either had, cause they might be giants. All the songs are so different on an album. And then some of the albums are more similar, but there's artists like last week, next week, 200. Wait a minute. My mind's breaking. Last week. Where, you know, a shot a, every song sounds, the same theme or the same tones. And this one clean. Yeah. It's, it's exactly the opposite. It's almost like a Beatles album. Is that a good example? Am I smart? I think that last one is probably the second, my second favorite song next to summer, babe. You know, I went to those two and then kind of gets a little weird at the end. Yeah. Conduct for sale. Exclamation point. What are they making a password? Well, we're listening to this one. I was going to tell you guys, I had a music experience. The other day, uh, the taste of Minnesota, which was like the big food event, kind of like a fair or whatever, but they have a music stage and they had the fucking wallflowers. And I missed the wallflowers just by like 10 to one minute.

[63:01]Ah, man. The headliner was, and Matt, you're more of a country music. I think that Aaron and Rob was Martina McBride. Are you guys Martina McBride fans? We listened to Martina McBride stage for about an hour. What do you think? Yeah, there's nothing better at our cabin. Eddie, Eddie and I, we play ping pong. And we put on nineties country and that's, so that's our ping pong music. And what's your big, a lot of Martina McBride comes up. What's her, what's her big hit? She independence day. Yeah. Oh, go down. Right. Go down. Rob, go down a little bit. Broken wing. This time. They reached a point where Rob, you can only stand up. So one, and then you got to go sit down. You know how it goes, right? Yes. So Martina came out and people were into it. It was a great show. And I, I didn't get to go with the next day, but I was going to, I really wanted to go. There were two days of this festival. The next day, Aaron had Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis performing on stage.

[64:02]And they don't, they're not normally performers. I don't think. No, not really, but they were more like behind the, behind the keys kind of, but they had more stand. Is it more stand? The time we go more stay in the time. Nice. I didn't get to see those groups, but I saw Martina McBride in person. And I thought that was, that was a pretty cool. She was really good. A great show. That's great. We can get back to the alternative music. Well, did you guys, I used to be a big fan of Martina McBride's husband. I thought it was her brother, Martin McGroom. What? That might be one of the best or worst jokes ever, because I've never heard of Martin McGroom. You really worked, worked at that one. Let's Google Martin. See what, let's see. It sounds, it does sound like somebody, an alien who would steal like your French fries at McDonald's. Doesn't it? Yes. Martin McGroom. Okay. Martin McGroom. He's like the evil boss in the show. Rose. Broom.

[65:00]No, there's only McBrooms. Okay. Minnesota. Rob, don't click on someone's LinkedIn because they can see if you click. Go back, go back, click search only for you guys. Think I have a LinkedIn. My LinkedIn would be so sad. I don't have one. Okay. I'm just going to type in. LinkedIn. No. Well, yeah, some do, but they're pretentious. Let's see. Terry McGroom. Terry McGroom, a professional boxer. So there are some McGrooms, but we have not seen a Martin McGroom. Of course, husband of Martina McBride. Oh yeah. Good for him. Now, Russell told me actually, he didn't, he didn't want to tell you guys this, but at some point in his dating life was not going well. And I think we remember there were some days where it was just not going well. I think there was a lot of days where it wasn't going very well. He said he was going to go online and order a McBride. It's probably one of the highlights of my dating life. Yeah. I'll have a number two. All right.

[66:00]Zurich is stained. But Rob, the postage was higher than I thought it would be. Russell, when they cut holes in, it's more expensive when they're cutting holes in the box. Oh, I thought that was what you meant. I love this song. I do have to say that this was fun to me. Yeah. I like what's going on with the guitar here. Like, is it, is it not tuned? Is it tuned differently? I never quite understand that stuff. And I like what's happening. Guys, this is one of the albums where when I'm listening to it with you guys in little chunks, I'm jamming on it big time. I think I, I think I need to give this a play while I'm doing something else. Yeah. I couldn't do it. Like I couldn't make it all the way through. I just, Hmm. Chester's little wrists or Chesley's little wrists. Hey, what do we think of the name Chesley? It's fun. You think so? Yeah, I think that Leslie, no Chesley, CH. Rob,

[67:00]a badge. I don't even know if it's a man. It doesn't matter if it's male or female name. It's harder to listen to. Oh yeah. I thought, I thought there were a lot of songs that were hard to listen to on this. Rob, I think Rob has been picking out some, some favorable sounds. Some bites on this album so far. You, you did a lot of research. I forgot those favorable. I kind of have just been moving into 30 seconds. Honestly, like Loretta scars. And I got to say guys, 38 minute album. Oh, I'm done with that. That's that should be it. Any album over 40 minutes. Illegal. I've said it before. I'll say it again. I love a short album. Short songs. Great. Uh, Matt here. No, here. One. They here. Did you guys rehearse this?

[68:00]Oh yeah. We did. And then later we're going to bust your drinks. Hey, sorry. You done with that? Sir, did you bring in long John Silver's into the play? You know, there's nobody else has food here. This is just drinks. So that was established earlier. And yet you're eating. One of those big long fish sandwiches from life. Now, can I ask you this? Did they have a long, they had a long sandwich, right? If you're long John Silver's and you don't have a long sandwich, you're missing out. You have to do it. Right? Aaron does officially at McDonald's have cheese on it. Uh, yeah. The by default. Yeah, that's disgusting. Like a cheese on the fish. Flake. It'd be, I know it's an odd choice, but it's American. She's American. She's really just as texture, you know, guys, you know, I drove to the cabin. So, you know what that means? It's my first McDonald's stop of the year. Did you get a fish filet? So I stopped at McDonald's. I've got my mother-in-law and the seat next to me. Wonderful person. I then have a nephew in the back seat who immediately,

[69:02]when we pulled up to the drive-thru starts yelling, get me ice cream, get me ice cream. This kid hasn't said a word the whole trip. He says, give me ice cream, get me ice cream. So the woman comes on the speaker thing and it just, all she can hear somebody yelling, get me ice cream, get me ice cream. And I'm like, hello. I'm like, why are you down back there? So my mother-in-law bless her heart orders a ranch. She goes on her phone. She goes, okay, McDonald's menu. I'm going to order a ranch chicken McWrap. Well, that's Russell. I didn't say that. Okay. I didn't say that. I would have turned the volume way up on that one. Here's the thing. I ordered it. I was like, I don't see it on the menu, but you know, it's my mother-in-law. I'm going to do what she says. I order it. They go, we don't have that. And so she says, ask what wraps they have. So I asked what, Hey, what wraps do you have? I don't think they have. I don't think there's anything. The woman came back and said, you haven't had wraps for four years. I got absolutely dunked on in the drive through.

[70:05]I don't think they have a wrap. What do we do? It was like, it was a pie comes down hard. Strong side to weak side. Then of course, my mother-in-law, she's the best. I love her. Orders a grilled chicken sandwich. You haven't had that in years. What are we talking about? She was looking at a menu from like, no, I don't know the internet archives. I don't know where she was in a time machine. Here's the thing. Smoke. Okay. So then we got ice cream and gave it to that kid. So he didn't yell as much me. I could barely eat anything. What's your mother-in-law get? She got, what did she get? Oh, that's why I thought of the story. Cause she got a fish filet. And I was like, you want cheese with that? That came around. The perfect story. She had a fish filet.

[71:00]Hey, Russell, can I bust that your table for you now? I'll do the fish. I'll do the fish. Can I get a fish filet? Excuse me. That's kind of the risk. Really? Going right from the wraps to the fish. You can just hear like the deep freeze opening that hasn't been opened in like three years up there, right? Yeah. They have to get the person who's worked there the longest. Do you know how to make one of these? How do you get all the ice off of this before you put it in the deep fryer? Oh my God. It would be like those Thanksgiving turkey frying videos that I always watch. That's right. Just popping out. Yeah. They're just popping in frozen birds, burning down their house. Two states. Okay. I'll say Massachusetts in denial. I'm living a moment with myself. Rob's picking great tunes. This might be better than I thought it was, but this is not my experience. They make you earn it, right? Because they make you get through this stuff.

[72:00]They get some catchy books. There's some gurus in here, man. Next up, Perfume 5. I was on a plane the other day. the uh flight attendant had on a ton of cologne i couldn't believe it every time this person passed by i was like are you seriously wearing cologne as a flight attendant like enough where i can smell it when they walk by that's that's that should be banned right right that might be the low moment in the history of the podcast rob does his bit on it should be banned that you can't wear cologne and aaron just goes wait aaron just goes right and then there's no it's dead silence after that there's so many songs still left why are we talking about cologne i'm flight attendants i freaking hate the hard workers of america okay oh no we've oh god we've

[73:05]it's so fucking hot in this laundry room there's a song there's a song by this guy keep it going okay we have to i'm sorry i gotta talk to aaron's wife at gmail.com and tell her just to crank that heat if you're telling everybody get going and i'm telling everybody to get going maybe you know we'll come from both sides to get this thing yeah yeah you just hear out there baking tons of sparkling water it would be baking hotter aaron as if there was a flamethrower in that room wow russell that would be a great transition but i want to talk about a song by a guy i know named martin mcgroom okay who's best titled songs i fucking hate the hard workers of america it's one of my favorites okay it's the opposite of independent state fame thrower rough start for me but this is a little more a little more experimental uh jackals false grails the lonzo

[74:07]one other thing who is the uh lead singer on this band steven malchemus is that his name yes what was his name i believe matt or rob one of you guys sent a message over the last few weeks about how he performed in beck's house when he was a youngster but it turns out back years later also produced him the lead singer of this band back produced him he came up with a band it was steve malchemus and he was the lead singer of this band and he was the lead singer of this band and the jicks was the name of the band back produced their album mirror traffic and here's one of the songs from this album see if you guys can hear back in this album what's it called russ tigers i believe is the name of the song oh wow so this is the lead singer from this band that's this that's the lead singer from this band

[75:07]and singer from pavement 15 10 15 years later is produced by back on this album so when i hear producing the lead singer of pavement who did it better back did it better i actually love this it's kind of nice guys i'm a big steve malchemus and the jicks fan now uh all right i lost my place so we have to go back to the beginning uh our singer oh big time i've been waiting i don't know guys you got this on it you come you're meeting your roommate for the first time in college you come in this album's on questionable questionable right i'm sorry man this is what the roommates play and i'm

[76:02]probably you've got the you've got the the punch in the bathtub they're unplugging draining out the punch in the bathtub party foul okay i've been getting back in the same party foul as much as i can now it's great your kid spills it listen to this now you kids love to fucking spill it's one of their favorite gags the more you're in a rush the bigger of a deal the thing you're going to is to the chance of them spilling goes down goes up up up the next time your kid spills and then says oh i didn't see it there or you know some other thing you say party foul instead of what the fuck what are you doing it makes you feel way better when you say party father i'll just say that right now uh our rating system this is album 199 okay does this belong right below which of course is coming next week

[77:03]all right uh that would be rolling well time if this is perfect at the 199er all right or if you think this should have been higher up on the list which of course would have been a lower number also a lower number date wise because we would have already covered it okay uh eric clapton cream okay great albums like that that we've already covered for sure that would be rolling uh boned if it should have been higher up on the list or if it should have been lower on the list a higher number a later date that would be a rolling groan pavement where does it belong on the list rolling well tone did it get rolling boned or is it a rolling groan uh matt what do you think rolling well toned rolling bone really grown pavement slanted and enchanted i think 200 now 199 sounds like a great spot for this i would put this ahead of a few albums so i'm not going to say it's rolling bone should be higher uh but i'll say it's good here you know but i'm thinking things

[78:00]like uh t-rex leonard colin album um there's just been a few in the last like 30 or so that i've i'd maybe skip it ahead four or five uh on that list so i don't know i'm not going to get too technical i'll just say rolling well toned right here at 199 it's almost like the longer we do this podcast the worse it's going to be it's crazy it's crazy wait what it's gonna get me it's the albums are getting worse over the next eight years i don't know how it could be any worse than this moment right here it really can't oh i can tell you how yeah russell get russell gets married yeah russell getting married is a disaster might as well just wrap it up rocks the foundation of which this podcast was built on it would be like if aaron comes back and literally says all right guys i actually just like normal stuff now what i'm into normal stuff what are you talking about aaron are you

[79:01]currently reading a book where a bear who plays a saxophone also has graphic sex yes i am don't change okay now okay russell what do you think rolling well toned rolling grown or rolling bone now i was reading a summary of this album and it said who do these enchanted boys conjure up horses of nature like captain b fart swell naps puree abu the fall thinking fellers union 282 giant sand and the minute men these are the bands that this inspires can't be this timeless for me so i mean other people can't enjoy it i just can't see like if that's the inspiration and i don't know any of these bands and the one i have heard of is garbage i can't i can't do it i will say that first song summer babe was a super cool hit and i liked a lot of them but i was driving home and i was listening to this album and i made it about

[80:02]four songs through and i had to stop and i said there has to be something else for me to do and from somewhat of this era that i would enjoy more and i put on bush 16 stone wow and i listened through that album and made it about eight songs through and i think that album whoops this ass i think that album is 10 times better than this one and it doesn't mean this album isn't cool isn't great isn't influential but it's not for me so i'm going to take bush 16 stone over this one i'm going to say it's rolling grown wow are you ever going to come back down brilliant uh aaron what do you think rolling about telling rolling bone rolling grown i think there's some cool stuff on here i i think that uh both matt and russell make good points i i just i i need better singing for for albums for me to to want to be into them unless there's like some really great music going on i just need i need i need better singing for me so for me it's rolling ground unfortunately you guys are incorrect what shit okay this gets a rolling summer vacation

[81:07]listen we know nobody's listening anymore hey hey it's we we know people are going up north and not telling other people about it they're wondering hey maybe they're around this weekend i don't know what's with all the questions what's with all the questions i said my mother-in-law home i'm not putting her in first class i'll tell you that right now embarrass me at the drive-thru i don't think so now okay listen you're on summer break you're not listening to this especially when you see that we're not listening to this we're not listening to this we're not listening to this we're covering pavement you think you're pushing play on this slogging through the first part of this podcast just putting on the boots out to the bogs going through trying please this is oh my god you look at the runtime what the fuck they talk this long about payment they must have been on some real bullshit okay yeah it doesn't matter all right it's okay flight attendants in their

[82:00]cologne in the hour okay they should be the night they should be it's kicked out of the country It's okay. Next month, when everybody's back in school, we'll be listening to everybody listening again. I can't wait for that. I'm serious. Don't fucking say that shit anymore. I'm serious about that. Okay. I looked at my plane ticket flying to Minnesota and back. It said 40 days. I was like, yes. 40 days, baby. 40 fucking days before I have to go back to work. It's named work. It's named after the worst thing. Rob takes more days off in a year than I take off in like 10 years. You know what? And the argument is, and it's a good argument. You can change your life. You can have that life, Russell. You can do it too. You can do it too. I can't. I can't either. Doesn't matter if you can or can't. They can't fire you. I'm in the union for Christ's sakes. Okay. I'm like those flight attendants that were in all the cologne. Now, here's the deal. You deserve a break from listening to us. Okay. You deserve a break from listening to bands that you're familiar with. I paused. All right. What? Did you say pause, Russ?

[83:01]I was frozen for a second. It was like the fourth time tonight. Jesus Christ, Russ. You know I'm a direction and a number. If you had like a bunch of big jokes coming, Rob, that was the reason I didn't laugh. I was frozen. No. Oh. No. You didn't miss any big jokes. Oh, we're good. You said, oh, you said pause because you were paused? I was paused. I thought you were telling me to pause. I was frozen. Wow. Sorry. No, that's okay. I didn't think you'd see that part of me. I didn't think you could see the other parts of me either. So, I apologize for the other things that occurred. The tubing part. Listen. What? What? What? What? What? What? thing. Of course we're fucking listening. Okay. Listen, I know no one's listening to this part. It's fine. We're all on summer break and you deserve a break from listening to bands that you've never heard of before. Go out and listen to Katy Perry. That's fine. Martina McBride. That's fine. This new guy I'm into. You'll never believe. It's called CEOs Should Get Paid More. That's his hit

[84:00]song. It's by a guy named Martin McGroom. Martin McGroom. We should do that, guys. We should swing so far, right? God, we'd make so much money. Rob hates his family and life. He doesn't want to go to bed. Look at this shit. Yeah, I know. Rob. Aaron's sweaty. There's a glisten on your head, Aaron. I can see it. Rob, I've been told she's got the tape on tonight. Alright, I'm signing off in two minutes. Rob, I'm not taking this shit anymore. Here's the deal. I did go to the doctor and they're like, they're like, your blood pressure's high. They're like, how do you sleep? And I was like, great. I sleep like a baby. I get so much sleep. It's crazy. Okay, here's the deal. Next up. Hello, switchboard. I need to call the hospital. There's been a terrible. What's that? You want me to pour you a scotch and then lick every inch of your body until I'm filled with the lust that the human body cannot contain? Wow. You are one smooth operator.

[85:00]We've got Sade. I'm into the next wops. I thought we listened to that one. I'm so confused. This was like when Rob tried to figure out that Beatles infographic a few weeks ago. That was rough. When I was editing that, I was like, I should just take this out. I should just take this whole part out. Beck did it better. Wow. Nobody's got a little kicker at the end. I got nothing. No, no kickers. Party foul. Party foul. Ding. We still got it. We got it. We're alive. Undertaker rising up. One more, Russell. One more. You got it. Aaron's logging off so soon. It's time to say goodbye. I can't. All right. I am taking a sound clip though of Russell just saying

[86:01]how do I read? I'm sorry. I'm sorry.