Tom Petty: Damn the Torpedoes (1979)

[00:00]all right in 2020 four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums decided

[00:06]by rolling stone magazine this resulted in a text chain that celebrated music excoriated the order

[00:11]and led us into making this podcast we are far from experts we promise to do almost no research

[00:15]all opinions are our own unless you disagree please sit back and enjoy beck did it better

[00:21]we are all the way up guys did you know that the oldest golden girl was really the youngest

[00:28]a lot of people you're blanche um dorothy of course still getting a still getty she was

[00:36]actually the youngest of the golden girls that's still getting yep still getty could

[00:41]still get it for me oh why would i say that she's dead now here's the thing okay we are

[00:49]top if you were going to date the golden girls how would you rank them in order who would you

[00:53]date first first to last who was i would take ruth actually since we're

[00:58]in ncaa tournament time why don't you give them seeds one seed to four okay you know what i'm going

[01:03]one seed tip the music all right wait let me i got okay here we go called production

[01:08]coming in with the fourth i gotta pull up the names golden girls in the old lady read names

[01:16]all right here we go ready at see your dance team region out west at number four she was lucky to

[01:24]even make this tournament i could not stand her dorothy dorothy you're four

[01:28]okay dorothy was terrible she was always stern and strict didn't let anybody have fun okay she's

[01:35]always kind of the you get i guarantee she wore beige tennis shoes oh a hundred percent a hundred

[01:41]percent coming at number three you know what i gotta go sofia i gotta go the oldest one who's

[01:48]actually the youngest one del getty she's at number three okay that would be a bit insulting

[01:53]to be the youngest one and they make you play the oldest one well i think

[01:58]listen when they were making that show they had to be like listen we gotta crank out episodes so

[02:03]fast they were probably doing like 40 episodes a week they're like if any of these people kick

[02:07]the bucket we're fucked like we have to we have to record as much still getty born in in 20 in 19

[02:14]1923 she had some some of that benjamin button going on a lot of people love this bit born in

[02:20]the 20s guys she would be 103 right now wow who's the two seed oh two seed of course rose

[02:28]all right not very bright is that betty white yeah that could just be a thing on television

[02:34]the betty white character where you're just not bright like that's your character trait it's

[02:37]it's a classic and then of course number one is blanche she could blanche devereaux could 100

[02:44]get it from me all right i think so oh big time and she was always you know what it was always

[02:50]kind of fun because i'd watch that show as a kid i'd be like oh i'm watching like an adult show

[02:53]and then it was extremely horny sometimes okay so even though it was grandma's getting horny i was

[02:57]still like hey i'm gonna watch that show i'm gonna watch that show i'm gonna watch that show i'm gonna

[02:58]i mean if you you think about it there's a whole bunch of internet categories that these women

[03:04]kind of started if you combine this with like married with children there's a oh there's a

[03:11]lot of big searches that's wrapped up in that psychology i'll just say that right now here

[03:15]we have to uh we have to what's that fact check magic mike 69 we're gonna have to magic mike 69

[03:22]oh boy uh-oh rue mclanahan was born in 1934

[03:28]is that blanche that's blanche one seed mom i'd like to introduce you to my fiancee rue

[03:35]b arthur though b arthur was born in 1922 and and what's her name was supposed to be her mom right

[03:44]that was the deal still getty still getty but so b arthur was born before estelle getty right

[03:51]yeah even though they were mom and daughter so that's that's what you can go but were they not

[03:56]was she not the youngest

[03:57]no rue what's her name mclanahan okay born in 34 1934 can you imagine like your wife finds out

[04:06]you've been cheating and then she finds out it was one of the golden girls she'd probably be

[04:10]insulted unless it was blanche and then she'd probably be like well i can see that yeah of

[04:15]course i i think everybody blanche had a very blanche had a steamy sexuality to her that was

[04:20]on almost every watch like that was her main thing she was like sex crazed okay we're like what grandma's

[04:27]getting it and now according to some ads i see before some binks before some videos i watch

[04:31]grandmas are getting it okay and guess what they're ugly grandmas what the porn advertising

[04:38]to me has just given up the ads i'm getting now are do you want to fuck ugly grandmas and i'm like

[04:43]no why why is this is this targeted toward me oh getting older guys uh listen we're talking about

[04:53]tom petty and damn the torpedoes okay 231 i remember listening to this album with an ex-girlfriend of

[05:00]mine okay so i want to be very clear it's an ex-girlfriend it's nobody who this could be

[05:04]related to or track back to now saying this was this was this rue the the girlfriend that your

[05:09]mom used to make fun of yeah oh look at over there that is the voice she would make too

[05:16]oh but you know what russ i'm fine i don't have any smother issues i mean mother issues

[05:21]smother issues

[05:23]now uh i remember listening to this girlfriend with an ex with an ex-girlfriend of mine because

[05:28]she told me it was important to remember one thing about tom petty you should not pet the

[05:32]god damn it when rosie's not here these jokes just never go you need to not sweat the petty

[05:39]stuff but you should always pet the sweaty stuff i think i used that for the last time

[05:44]petty album too but i don't care it's too good now we have hit another problem okay i'm just

[05:49]gonna say this right now i've got a theme song

[05:53]we just cannot play without aaron here it feels too dirty okay without aaron here it feels really

[05:58]mean so we're gonna have to wait till aaron shows up to get to the theme song so you know what we're

[06:02]gonna do instead we're gonna go directly to the voicemail all right it's on the phone

[06:11]we have no more voicemails i am desperate for voicemails please voicemail i kind of thought

[06:21]because we okay so just a little peek behind the curtain okay it's just something about when we take

[06:26]so many weeks off people just don't call so please we are i have a message i can share but yeah read

[06:31]the message i'd rather hear that right now i got a message from one of our listeners nice this was

[06:37]this was on tuesday march 25th quote i know where you are i see you sleeping oh it's my spring break

[06:45]and i need the podcast to clean the house too tell k-rob to get his shit together and launch the

[06:50]episode

[06:51]excuse me rob your thoughts um on last week's episode the what the uh the aretha franklin i

[06:59]told them there's no new episode today everyone's been traveling i think we got to replay it but i

[07:03]could be wrong response quote this is devastating crying emoji looks like i will have to go into the

[07:12]vault and listen to old ones yes that you know what that that reminds me of when i was listening

[07:17]to the golden girls theme song let's listen to some old ones

[07:21]go ahead this is my ex-girlfriend rue that's texting me then she says quote yes not releasing

[07:29]a new podcast was a real blessing in disguise oh the old episodes i listened to while cleaning

[07:34]were solid gold they love the old episodes i'm telling you guys if you're sick go back and listen

[07:39]to the old episodes that's what i do it i was doing it today i was listening to old john

[07:42]coltrane episode and guess what it was really really funny one thing i noticed aaron was there

[07:47]at the beginning so it was actually pretty good my favorite part of the text final text in the chain

[07:52]i said i'm passing along the good feedback to rob it makes him happy she says yes

[07:58]tell him i'm really enjoying the episode where he's he's explaining he's going to the guinness

[08:02]factory and then russ said will there be the lady with the long fingernails and the two fat guys on

[08:07]the bike and ross and rob lost his shit it makes me laugh so much it turns out she was laughing at

[08:13]my joke wow suck it down rob

[08:17]suck it down are you telling me there's like an older episode where we also talk about the guinness

[08:21]book of world records i think we had two of them and once again the only people we could bring up

[08:26]are the long fingernail lady and the two guys on the bike oh my god can you imagine being the guy

[08:32]who spit all those cigarettes in his mouth he's like oh nobody gives a shit about me i guess

[08:36]just not get the same pub does but well i think i think he knew like his he's like i'm gonna see

[08:43]how many vapes i could fit in my mouth you know this new generation russell they had to

[08:47]change it they can't show him smoking cigarettes oh i wonder how many asses i could eat right now

[08:53]you know for the millennials that's what they're into that's what they're into russell

[08:57]with cigarettes no no cigarettes are out that's are they or not uh yes cigarettes are way out

[09:05]right now not not in ireland though i was just in ireland there's a ton of people smoking well

[09:10]i mean once you get outside of america who knows everybody's just like fuck it we gotta get to the

[09:16]voice bill so i can hear about my voice bill so i can hear about my voice bill so i can hear about

[09:17]matt's ireland trip all right here we go hey guys this is mike from paraland i'm trying to get

[09:24]a couple guys together to come up that way whenever you guys have something going on in

[09:29]minneapolis so let me know some dates so that i can just buy this with my wife sarah all right

[09:38]talk to you later love the show all right who who who and what 281 area code

[09:47]that's up north isn't it no so houston okay play that okay no no no no i know i know who this is i

[09:54]know this is let me explain this is a person who earlier through text we thought was charm

[10:00]and it's not and he has sent me a few messages about coming to the live show so this is another

[10:06]strange fan we have yes okay what i mean strange fan i mean that in almost every possible way

[10:11]um and they are wondering okay and this does make me want to wear phone books under our

[10:17]clothes at this live show i can tell you that right now okay i ain't going out like john lennon

[10:22]yeah really i don't know i just this would be awesome well so what how does that what's the

[10:27]charm versus mike versus what's so we thought somebody was charm on a text because they were

[10:32]a fan of ours from texas and it's turned out it was not i think charm might be done with us i don't

[10:37]know i think but this is a fan from houston so this is mike from houston now i i don't know how

[10:44]we're going to keep all all of our mics all these mics yeah

[10:47]i mean it's like when we traveled that one time we tried to record the podcast so we couldn't get

[10:50]our mic straight okay it's like russell before the show we couldn't figure out the mic we

[10:57]technically have we have technically have two random listeners from texas yeah if charm is still

[11:02]listening in the heart of texas yes so stars at night are big and bright listen deep in the heart

[11:10]of texas i'm just gonna say this i'm putting jenny on the live show i'm putting jenny on finding a

[11:17]i'm putting jenny on finding where to do it she's gonna find a thing to do it we're gonna do it i did

[11:23]have a fan invite us to do it at his house no no i'm not doing it in hutchinson i'm out in hutchinson

[11:30]we would do an outdoor show hutchinson yes i'm out on the fuck what are we talking about hutchinson

[11:35]give me a break he mentioned that it was maybe a little bit we're gonna go get on their farm

[11:40]tractor too and like go out and milk the cows out in hutchinson

[11:44]the starshines

[11:47]bright for those of you that don't know hutchinson is kind of the uh houston of minnesota you might

[11:53]say okay well we're gonna you know we are gonna have to like thread some needles uh with with

[11:58]aaron more than anything but you're here for summer break but it's kind of summer break it's

[12:02]a little bit it's last year was a little it was a little shorter than normal because of some trips

[12:07]or something and you're gonna be here a little longer this year though rob yeah usually doesn't

[12:11]hang out with us when he comes for summer he flies in and then like goes weight lifts and then he

[12:17]like it's kind of like you know he's like 74 for 74 now right he was 69 for 69 a couple weeks ago

[12:23]and you know advice and then you know everybody giving him good advice and using none of the

[12:28]advice given he's 74 for 74 it's kind of like that when he comes into town hey guys i'm in town

[12:33]oh but i'm not available what do you guys think the proper format for a live show is it just a

[12:38]regular show is it a double episode oh do we have to get all the bits into one episode or do we just

[12:43]wing it or what would that look like no first of all we're not winging it we're gonna have lots of

[12:46]bits that we have worked on it'll be lots of bit it'll be one episode russell it'll have to be one

[12:51]episode here's how it starts we are gonna get john from edina to play the intro on his guitar

[12:56]okay and then immediately get off the stage he doesn't get to be on the show he doesn't get to

[13:00]say any words okay this is just us four rob is worried that he he could take his role as funniest

[13:06]guy you got to get john out of there we got to get him that's true a plus is threat plus we need no

[13:11]what we really need him is as a fan we need fans there because i can tell you right now it's going

[13:15]to be 50 it's gonna okay it's gonna be 40 fans it's gonna be 40 wives of those fans who are very

[13:22]mad that they're there they're gonna be furious with us okay imagine never hearing this and going

[13:27]and be like what am i doing here will be disastrous would we describe where something is on a map and

[13:31]everybody cheers and they all like want to head out and take their husbands with them we have to

[13:37]be nervous about that then i am going to say hey i'm rob and then each of us is going to walk out

[13:42]to a theme song just like it's wwe wrestling russell so get that ready to go okay then we're

[13:48]going to have a voicemail and then we're of course we're going to have a make fun of aaron

[13:51]voicemail or a question from the audience i think the question from the audience yeah for sure

[13:56]hey matt matt our production value is great it's called hey rob rob it's called production

[14:02]live episode when i go see podcast episodes here in new york as soon as they get to a question

[14:07]who goes to podcast episodes some of us live in cities where the podcasts actually stop by guys

[14:12]sorry about that hey i love my podcast when i go see the episodes as soon as i do live questions

[14:16]from the audience i stand up and i leave i don't want to see it so bad that i leave before the end

[14:21]of the show hey don't eat it wasting my time we could also we would also have to do like the

[14:28]cocktail like pair it with the album like we'd have to go to booze and vinyl and be serving a

[14:32]round of drinks right a hundred percent russell all right i'm gonna get a date i'm gonna get a

[14:37]venue we're gonna be all set you guys and i'll find a sound man we're gonna figure out who's

[14:42]gonna be a sound guy okay we're gonna be set it's gonna be the greatest show guys and i think we

[14:47]have we think we get a band too that we know that'll play you know after we're done they can

[14:50]they can play for an hour i would like to rent out the little uh stage area at paisley park

[14:56]i think that would be the ultimate now that would be crazy that's out in the middle of nowhere we

[15:03]gotta be like somewhere in minneapolis oh my god i would dress up like prince oh my god i have so

[15:07]many good bits to do when i was dressed like prince i i understand it russell but i am going to

[15:12]a suburb like that russell you you you come in as dr conrad murray i'll be prince okay it's not

[15:19]don't worry michael this is me dr conrad murray our first round of cocktails will be the bobby's

[15:29]milk where's my mommy's milk oh the chance of somebody throwing up this live show is a hundred

[15:36]percent oh it just is this is gonna oh this is gonna be so good all right the the more we talk

[15:42]lose more live listeners i think i'm just warning no no no we're gonna gotta get those wives in

[15:47]there russell those sweet sweet wives okay and it's only going to be twenty dollars ahead so i

[15:52]think this is gonna be perfect aaron's here so we're gonna go to the theme song now all right

[15:56]aaron we'll clap first you need to clap for aaron let's go here we probably have the funniest 30

[16:03]minutes we've ever had i believe it i believe it oh god i've only been recording for 20 of it

[16:09]i have heard some reports about how the show

[16:12]goes before i come on fuck off whoever gave aaron those reports and i think i know who it is

[16:17]now aaron if we do a live show is your sister gonna be there

[16:20]i bet yes i bet she would yeah and she's married

[16:24]not um it's complicated no she's not

[16:29]hey hey rob why don't you ask aaron about other things that are going on in his life over the

[16:38]last few months

[16:39]killed a couple years ago you want to talk about that too what are you gonna ask if my dad's gonna

[16:45]be there jesus right jesus rob what the fuck all right i'm so nervous all of a sudden to do the

[16:51]live show is a really bad idea okay so far my crowd work has not gone very well hey everybody

[16:57]here married oh boy oh no what if rob just had a meltdown oh it's you know what's gonna happen

[17:06]where everything's quiet and i'm just looking at the camera and i'm like oh my god i'm gonna go to

[17:09]my hand saying you're an idiot violating myself over and over you're an idiot rob you're i don't

[17:13]want to like project too much but i'm just triangulating your mom you can't have your mom

[17:17]there right because you're gonna keep looking at her in the crowd and if she gives you like bad

[17:21]looks that's just gonna throw you into a tizzy isn't it famously of course during my wedding

[17:26]speech my wedding speech i am the in the wedding i am the groom you're not supposed to give any

[17:31]speech yeah you're supposed to thank everybody for being there you've given speeches at multiple

[17:36]inappropriate times you're yeah you've given

[17:39]thanks everybody have fun i'm a dad thanks for paying congratulations here you go guys your

[17:45]servers how about this f it's always the servers at a wedding that's their job i everybody get out

[17:51]of the dance floor with manny i recall my wife turning to me and saying rob please

[17:56]wedding is going terrible we need you to give a speech to get this place going

[18:01]and no matter what russell as soon as i had to give a speech it doesn't matter because i look

[18:04]over my mom and she's giving me this motion the famous wrap it up motion

[18:09]okay we gotta wrap up this speech i was like i haven't even gotten to the bit about my fingernails

[18:14]yet like that's my closer now listen can i tell you about a speech so i do i do speeches for work

[18:22]and i did i occasionally about once or twice a year i do them in front of like 500 people kind

[18:26]of like a big thing and it always has a fun tone it's something a little bit different

[18:30]i did fine at the most recent one but i had like jokes and stuff at the beginning and it bombed

[18:38]oh bomb

[18:39]i got i got no no audience laughs no nothing wow you started sweating what would you get red what

[18:47]what's what happens then i would start sweating profusely and i leaned harder into it and i just

[18:51]kept going i think i feel like you just got to own it and keep going i would have gone so dirty

[18:56]russell just right away we know that's how it goes something something uh like russell give me

[19:04]one topic that you were talking about and i'll make it i'll show you what joke i would do i can't do it

[19:09]okay i'm gonna assume that you're talking about savings and loans oh yeah i'm gonna say

[19:14]savings and loans these nuts

[19:17]solving all this crowd this is why we can't do a live show because hey is that lee gandhi in the

[19:25]back corner lee gandhi these savings and loans yeah these imagine did you come out to an imagine

[19:33]dragon song hey i'm going back crowd work actually i'm going back to you

[19:39]what did you say you did savings and loans oh yes uh well that's better than shaving alone

[19:43]oh wait oh you better hit the song rob sir what do you do shave with the song please say you're

[19:51]a dildo inspector i shave by myself usually all right listen we've got uh we've got a theme song

[19:58]or we've got a a song this week okay but i gotta tell you not seeing you guys for three weeks i

[20:05]had no idea what we've been talking about no idea what any of the running bits were so i thought to

[20:09]myself i'm gonna do a song for you guys i'm gonna do a song for you guys i'm gonna do a song for you

[20:09]hey what can i do i can make a song about aaron loving feet it's easy okay i bet the number one

[20:16]rhyme i was thinking about this today the number one rhyme i bet i've made is feet and meat i can

[20:20]almost guarantee every song that has feet has the word meat in it for me and i said you know what

[20:25]that's too easy it's two of your favorite things i had an inspiration oh i love feet meat but i

[20:31]realized i think what we're talking about we talked about after the podcast we didn't talk about it on

[20:39]so we'll just see how this fan's even more titillated it really is so let's let's turn on

[20:44]k-rob let's just see what's on there put it right in there

[20:46]welcome to k-rob k-r-o-b we got a special shout out to all those great dads out there who are

[20:54]helping out with their son's team get those together let me teach them how to throw a ball

[21:00]but they're also teaching them how to hit the ball oh yeah aaron wants to be helping so he

[21:06]coaches baseball for his sons

[21:09]team

[21:09]he shows up on the first day and he gets upset with what he's seen

[21:18]listen i am going to be bitching that's the best way for these guys to learn hitting

[21:28]aaron won't let the kids hit off a tee he thinks learning that way is real shitty

[21:36]aaron's

[21:39]says i know the best way that's how i've been coaching my son

[21:42]the first thing these kids need is a huge bat well i think they all should weigh a ton

[21:51]it's physics aaron says i'm the coach so listen to me i'll never let you fuckers hit off a tee

[22:02]well he won't let the kids hit off a tee every practice has three kids

[22:09]it's crying

[22:09]won't let the kids hit off a tee aaron thinks he knows everything about baseball coaching

[22:18]is that true yeah this is this is funny to about 16 people that are on a text chain

[22:26]hey dad i can't wait to get out of t-ball and play real baseball next year let's go hit off

[22:33]the tee son mike and houston has no idea what we're talking about he actually has to hit off a tee son

[22:35]mike and houston has no idea what we're talking about he actually has to hit off a tee son

[22:35]mike and houston has no idea what we're talking about he actually has to hit off a tee son

[22:35]mike and houston has no idea what we're talking about he actually has to hit off a tee son

[22:35]mike and houston has no idea what we're talking about he actually has to hit off a tee son

[22:35]mike and houston has no idea what we're talking about he actually has to hit off a tee son

[22:36]Mike in Houston has no idea what we're talking about.

[22:38]He actually asked to hit off the tee today.

[22:39]So I did it.

[22:40]I made him want to hit off the tee today.

[22:42]He was like, can you hit off the tee?

[22:43]I said, no, we don't have time.

[22:44]Aaron, break that down for us real quick, why we're talking about this.

[22:47]So, Aaron, you coach with a guy, and all of our text chain is all baseball guys.

[22:53]They're like true athletes.

[22:55]And they tell you, you got to hit off a tee.

[22:56]Like, we have baseball coaches galore.

[23:00]Everybody has told you, you got to hit off a tee.

[23:02]You go to your practice.

[23:04]You are not the head coach.

[23:06]You are the lowly assistant coach.

[23:07]You're sly.

[23:07]I'm the assistant coach.

[23:08]I think he's a parent assistant, like a parent.

[23:10]I'm an assistant coach, yeah.

[23:11]Oh, he's got a cap and everything.

[23:13]No, I'm an assistant coach.

[23:14]I did a background check and everything.

[23:15]In fact, this week I was told I wasn't allowed to coach yet because my background check wasn't done.

[23:18]Oh, my gosh.

[23:19]That's a bummer.

[23:20]No, it's not.

[23:21]Sir, sir, you step out from behind the port-a-potty.

[23:26]We see you.

[23:26]Yeah, put the sunglasses up.

[23:28]We see you back there.

[23:29]You can't coach.

[23:31]You haven't got your background.

[23:32]Take that Sacramento A's hat off.

[23:34]Oh, God.

[23:34]We see you back there.

[23:35]With your really thin mustache.

[23:37]So, yeah, you know, I'm very passionate about baseball, but I only played until I was a sophomore in high school, and I rode the bench mostly.

[23:43]So, you know, I have my ideas, but I'm always, I'll be honest, I'm always, like, looking to the text chain to validate my ideas.

[23:50]And I went to them and said, I would like to be hitting off the tee, and our head coach doesn't want to do it.

[23:54]And I will tell you guys this.

[23:56]I took the tee to practice.

[23:58]I set it up.

[23:59]Okay.

[23:59]I said, I'm over here with the tee work.

[24:01]And the kids liked it, and they got better.

[24:05]And now it's a regular part of practice, and it wasn't a thing.

[24:08]It wasn't even a thing.

[24:09]And then Aaron just started bashing home runs.

[24:11]He put the ball there and just crushing it.

[24:14]Opposite field.

[24:15]Hey, kids, go get this ball.

[24:17]It has a happy ending.

[24:18]Oh.

[24:18]It has a happy ending.

[24:20]Coach, most of us don't take the huge bat flip, Korean bat flip, and then a trot in tee ball when we're taking it off the tee.

[24:28]Most coaches aren't doing that.

[24:29]So, Aaron, so it's all going well now.

[24:31]You're hitting off the tee.

[24:32]Yeah, kids are hitting off the tee.

[24:34]They're liking it.

[24:34]Coach is liking it.

[24:35]It's all working out.

[24:36]And today, we had like five minutes, and I said, well, Wallace, let's go take some swings.

[24:40]And he said, can we hit off the tee?

[24:41]And I actually said no, because we didn't have time to set it up, and it was in the car.

[24:45]Oh, no.

[24:45]So that was when I felt like the worst.

[24:47]Then I was like, I don't know, I'm the worst.

[24:48]Plus, it's just fucking grass seeds still out there.

[24:51]You know what I mean, Aaron?

[24:51]They can't get on that fucking lawn.

[24:52]No, we're on the lawn.

[24:54]Don't worry.

[24:54]We're on the lawn the whole thing.

[24:55]You know how long, you know how much that grass seed cost?

[24:58]I do, because I didn't want to pay for sod.

[24:59]I'm cheap enough that I bought grass seed and a sprinkler, and I'm going to just let it grow instead of buying sod.

[25:05]Don't get me started on my sod rant, Aaron.

[25:09]I've got three guys here, okay, who are wondering when the losers get lucky sometimes.

[25:14]Is it before we turn 50?

[25:16]Come on.

[25:16]I've got Matt in Minneapolis.

[25:19]Matt, how are you doing?

[25:20]Good, Rob.

[25:21]We're going to last forever and ever on this podcast.

[25:24]Wow.

[25:25]And you know I can't begin to doubt it, because it just feels so good, and it feels...

[25:29]Oh, so right.

[25:30]I know we ain't never going to change our minds about doing this goddamn podcast.

[25:34]No, we love it.

[25:36]Not a source of stress in our marriage.

[25:38]We're fine.

[25:39]I've got Russell in Minneapolis.

[25:42]Russell, how are you doing?

[25:42]Rob, it sounds like even the losers get unlucky sometime when their main host uses their quote for the intro.

[25:49]Thanks.

[25:50]Thanks for being here.

[25:51]Russell, that was...

[25:53]You know what would be cool is Rob started using quotes from the album, too, instead of the three of us.

[25:58]That'd be great.

[25:59]Listen, I already did my don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff.

[26:02]What other jokes do I have about this album?

[26:05]Now, I've got Aaron out in California.

[26:08]Now, Aaron, I was telling earlier a joke about me and my wife, not Aaron and his wife, so let's be clear about that to start with.

[26:16]This is not about Aaron's wife at gmail.com.

[26:19]And I was telling her that when my wife got pregnant, she just turned to me.

[26:23]She goes, listen, the gynecologist says we can't have sex for four weeks.

[26:29]And I go, oh, my God, what did your dentist say?

[26:33]Especially weird when your sister's a dentist, too.

[26:45]Listen, I'm not happy about that joke.

[26:50]We know.

[26:50]You can just pay those dentists off.

[26:53]They'll say anything if you pay them enough money.

[26:55]I am not happy about making that joke.

[26:58]I feel bad.

[26:59]You do what you have to do.

[27:01]Don't do it like that, Rob.

[27:02]Let's talk about Tom Petty.

[27:03]Oh, my God.

[27:04]At that age, I mean, she'd still be breastfeeding a child.

[27:07]Like, that's how you're talking to her?

[27:08]Terrible.

[27:09]That joke is terrible.

[27:11]That's why I didn't say that.

[27:12]All right, so, Aaron, rolling going.

[27:15]Let's get right into rolling going.

[27:16]How's it going with you?

[27:16]It's going great.

[27:17]Gosh, it's been so long since I talked to you guys.

[27:20]There's so much happening, so much to report.

[27:24]But I think a big thing in my life, two weeks ago, three weeks ago, my son went on a field trip.

[27:31]And my wife chaperoned the field trip.

[27:34]And this field trip was to the SPCA.

[27:38]So they went to learn what it's like when people adopt animals.

[27:43]Can I just, I'm going to stop you right there.

[27:45]This is a fucked field trip.

[27:47]This is such a fucked field trip.

[27:50]They are setting parents up to fail with this field trip.

[27:53]And they fucking know.

[27:54]You know what?

[27:54]They might as well take your kid to the goddamn cotton candy factory.

[27:57]I mean, what the fuck is going on?

[27:59]You guys know how the story is.

[28:00]You know where it's like.

[28:01]Oh, no.

[28:01]We now have a dog.

[28:02]Now we have a dog.

[28:03]Oh, Aaron.

[28:05]They went on the field trip.

[28:07]Aaron, and she chaperoned?

[28:09]She chaperoned.

[28:10]And they got inspired.

[28:12]So then they come home.

[28:13]They're shopping for dogs online.

[28:15]So we go to mom's dog.

[28:15]And you know, son, here's the dog we're about to put down.

[28:17]I've got the needle right here.

[28:19]Oh, if only somebody and their mom right now would agree to take him.

[28:21]Otherwise, I've got to kill this dog.

[28:23]What do you think?

[28:23]Oh, no.

[28:24]Oh, what do you think?

[28:24]It's just so fucked.

[28:26]So we go shop online.

[28:27]So they didn't actually meet the dog on the field trip.

[28:29]But they met other dogs and talked about what the SPCA does and things of that nature.

[28:33]Now, Aaron.

[28:33]Aaron, how is this broached to you at home?

[28:36]How do they say, like, hey, we went on this thing?

[28:40]Well, I knew they were going.

[28:42]And there was, like, a good chance they were going to, like, bring one home that day.

[28:45]But it turns out they weren't allowed to do that.

[28:47]I think we need to.

[28:48]You've got to put your foot down.

[28:49]I just, I've got to call timeout.

[28:51]You've got to let us know.

[28:52]Do you have a dog in your house now?

[28:54]Yes or no?

[28:54]Yes.

[28:55]Yes.

[28:55]Okay.

[28:56]Because I need to not offend you then.

[28:58]We do now have a dog.

[28:59]No, no.

[28:59]I thought I made that clear.

[29:01]Wait, yes, you do not have a dog is how you answer that?

[29:03]Yes, we do now have a dog.

[29:04]Yes, he is now here.

[29:05]We've had him now for two weeks, I think.

[29:08]Two or three.

[29:08]He's wonderful.

[29:10]But, yeah, he, so they would just, like, you know, they were just, like, looking on the website, shopping for the dogs together.

[29:15]Aaron, at any time, were you promised by your kid that he would take care of the dogs sometimes?

[29:22]No, absolutely not.

[29:24]He'll feed the dog.

[29:24]Nope.

[29:25]We're not, no.

[29:26]We're not, we're not, we're not that gullible.

[29:28]There's no way.

[29:29]Okay.

[29:29]It was, it was just that he wanted the dog.

[29:32]So, we go, the dog that we decided might be good for our family after we took a look on the website was called Calvin Klein at the shelter.

[29:39]So, we went on a Saturday to go meet Calvin Klein.

[29:42]Oh.

[29:43]And they said, oh, we're sorry, Calvin's not here.

[29:45]He's out on a field trip.

[29:46]What?

[29:47]So, yeah.

[29:48]So, we had Wallace's friend with him after baseball.

[29:50]He dewormed or something like that.

[29:52]So, he's one of those.

[29:54]It's one of those cop dogs.

[29:55]They're trading him out of sick on a German command.

[29:57]So, we're like, well, let's, you know, it's two o'clock on Saturday afternoon.

[30:01]Let's go down to the brewery and get a beer and the kids can play pop a shot or whatever.

[30:04]And so, we walk into the brewery and that's where the dog was on his field trip.

[30:09]What?

[30:10]Yeah.

[30:10]Wow.

[30:11]There's like this hippie couple who takes dogs out on the field trip so the dogs can get adopted.

[30:16]To the bar.

[30:16]Yeah.

[30:17]So, we met the dog.

[30:18]So, then, of course.

[30:19]We got our dog at a bar.

[30:20]We got our dog at a bar.

[30:22]What a perfect dog for Aaron.

[30:23]Special.

[30:24]So, then, we brought him home.

[30:26]We went back on Sunday and adopted him and brought him home.

[30:28]It's all been going great.

[30:29]Now, here's where Robby should have.

[30:31]What kind of dog is this?

[30:32]I need a picture of this dog in my head.

[30:34]Yeah.

[30:34]How come the text chain hasn't heard about this?

[30:37]Really?

[30:37]I haven't seen pictures.

[30:38]Because I was waiting to tell you guys on the podcast.

[30:39]I was trying to save.

[30:40]Holy cow.

[30:41]That's a long time to wait.

[30:42]I was trying to save something for the podcast.

[30:44]I was waiting for your reaction.

[30:46]I was trying to, you know, do a better, like, build up to the story.

[30:49]But I thought it was pretty obvious once they went to the field trip.

[30:51]He's like a, he's like, he kind of looks like a dog.

[30:53]He looks like a husky mix.

[30:54]Like a, or like a, we don't know yet.

[30:56]We did the DNA test on him.

[30:58]He looks like a large dog.

[30:58]So, is it a little furry, too, then?

[31:00]He's kind of furry, yeah.

[31:01]He's like 30 pounds, 35 pounds.

[31:03]Husky mix?

[31:04]That was the size clothes I wore from TJ Maxx when I was in high school.

[31:07]Is he allowed to sit on your Eames chair, Aaron?

[31:10]He's not.

[31:10]He's not on the furniture.

[31:12]No, not on the Eames chair.

[31:13]No.

[31:13]I should have asked Rob to cue up his theme song from the Leonard Cohen episode.

[31:19]Because on Monday, my dog...

[31:23]My new dog, Calvin, has not had a good time assimilating with the dog behind us, Arlo.

[31:29]Shocker.

[31:30]Arlo's been mad that Calvin is now around.

[31:33]Yeah.

[31:34]And on Monday, Calvin jumped up two layers in the backyard, two terraces in the backyard,

[31:40]ran up to the fence to say hi to Arlo.

[31:41]Arlo bit Calvin through the fence on his paw.

[31:47]So, we had to go immediately to the emergency vet, like the second we could have the dog.

[31:52]This dog.

[31:53]This dog has now bitten two members of your family.

[31:55]Different dog this time.

[31:57]No, no.

[31:57]Different dog.

[31:57]But yes, now two of us have been bitten by a dog.

[31:59]Aaron got that one put down.

[32:00]That was Coco.

[32:02]This is Arlo.

[32:03]Arlo bit Calvin.

[32:04]So, you would think...

[32:06]I mean, we live in like a...

[32:07]You know, Matt's been here.

[32:08]It's a quiet neighborhood.

[32:09]But the dogs here are wild, man.

[32:10]You do have a responsibility to keep your dog out of other people's yards.

[32:14]He was in our yard.

[32:15]But it was through the fence.

[32:17]It happened through the fence.

[32:18]They ran up to the fence.

[32:19]Are all the cats still coming around?

[32:20]Are the cats a dog friend?

[32:21]Are the cats not coming around anymore?

[32:23]The cats are...

[32:23]The cats are not coming around as much.

[32:25]They're pretty mad.

[32:26]Well, all these cats.

[32:27]Yeah, she's mad.

[32:28]She comes up to the porch, but then she runs away when the dog comes by.

[32:31]I heard, Aaron, that Arlo dog got into Aaron's fence.

[32:34]And there was a court order that prevented Aaron from sending Arlo back.

[32:37]But he did it anyways.

[32:38]Yeah.

[32:40]Arlo's on his way to El Salvador.

[32:42]What are the dog's areas for growth for this dog, Aaron?

[32:47]Wow.

[32:47]You guys, listen.

[32:48]I'm telling you, there aren't many.

[32:50]Like, he's actually true.

[32:51]I wish I could give you, like, some juicy stuff.

[32:53]Like, he sleeps a lot.

[32:55]And he goes really crazy for, like, running water.

[32:59]Like, the water that was running in the streets after rain.

[33:01]He, like, goes nuts for that.

[33:02]And, like, he doesn't walk great.

[33:05]Like, he kind of, like, weaves around the, you know, street when you're trying to walk him.

[33:09]But, like, so that's it.

[33:10]But, no, I mean, so far, yeah, they didn't know much about the dog.

[33:12]He'd been in the shelter for, like, 20 days and was in another shelter before that.

[33:15]So, we don't have anything about his behavioral history.

[33:18]If it were me, I would have told Aaron's wife at gmail.com, you know what?

[33:21]I'll take Wallace.

[33:22]We'll go pick out the dog.

[33:23]You stay here.

[33:24]Have a day to yourself.

[33:25]And I would have gone to some fancy breeder and paid all the money to get the dog that's been bred perfectly and has no issues.

[33:32]Let me just say this.

[33:34]What is it about us as adults that as soon as our kids get to an age where they're not, where you're just not fucked all the time, like, something's not going wrong all the time, that as adults we're like, this is the perfect time for me to get a dog.

[33:50]My life is too easy.

[33:51]I'm sitting around.

[33:52]I'm doing jack shit.

[33:53]I can finally go to Salt Lake without having to bring a whole bunch of million things and strollers and diapers and all that.

[34:03]Boy, I'd love to give up an hour of my time every day and night.

[34:07]I definitely have a lot of time to do with that with, you know, to go walk a dog or whatever.

[34:10]I'd love to give up all my nightly weekend plans.

[34:12]Like, oh, man, I really loved going to trivia.

[34:15]I'm going to say, no, actually, I can't go to that because I have to walk the dog tonight.

[34:19]It's so fucked, isn't it?

[34:20]I know.

[34:21]It's weird, isn't it?

[34:21]Yeah, that's where we're at.

[34:22]That's exactly where we're at.

[34:24]Oh, and yet it's just the best.

[34:25]How can you resist these little sweeties with these little cute eyes?

[34:28]Well, no.

[34:29]Can I go next?

[34:29]Yeah, you can.

[34:30]I was going with you.

[34:32]Well, when I was in Costa Rica, my dog passed away.

[34:34]My dog is dead.

[34:38]So the podcast has stayed the same.

[34:42]Hey, Rob, all the things you were saying about Aaron's family over the last few months are free game.

[34:47]Now, if Aaron's talking about his new dog after your dog died, what the fuck?

[34:51]And I was not here.

[34:52]And so I get a call.

[34:53]I thought it was okay, Rob.

[34:54]Yeah.

[34:55]No, you all, you didn't.

[34:57]So dog's gone.

[34:58]No, you didn't.

[34:58]You insensitive bastard, Aaron.

[35:01]It was a bummer.

[35:01]I wasn't here.

[35:02]So it was a big bummer.

[35:03]Dog was, I don't think it was in any pain when he went.

[35:05]So that's fine.

[35:06]But now we have started the new weird phase.

[35:09]But hey, Rob, your dad's still alive, right?

[35:10]Yeah.

[35:11]Yeah.

[35:11]I did not say that.

[35:13]We can't do it.

[35:14]I did not say that.

[35:15]I just want to be clear.

[35:16]That was not me.

[35:17]Okay.

[35:18]I do not equate the two things.

[35:19]All right.

[35:21]Jesus.

[35:23]Okay.

[35:23]I would never equate the two things.

[35:25]Aaron's dad left voicemails.

[35:26]Okay.

[35:26]I'll try for that.

[35:27]Whoever leaves me voicemails, I treasure.

[35:29]We're out of voicemails, Aaron.

[35:32]We don't have any left.

[35:32]We're running the bill.

[35:33]Okay.

[35:35]So, but that's not important.

[35:38]Okay.

[35:38]Here's the thing.

[35:40]I come back from Costa Rica.

[35:41]Guys, I made the worst mistake I've ever made in my entire life.

[35:45]No, no.

[35:45]Rob, you can get shots of penicillin for those types of choices.

[35:50]I'm allergic to penicillin, Russell.

[35:53]What kind of friend are you?

[35:54]Well, then just tell her it was one of those pellets.

[35:57]I'll tell you what.

[35:58]I don't even know if I am still allergic to penicillin,

[36:00]but I was told that when I was a young child,

[36:02]I got a slight skin rash.

[36:03]But you better fucking believe every doctor I talk to,

[36:07]everybody, oh, do you have any allergies?

[36:08]Yeah, I do.

[36:09]Penicillin.

[36:09]Write it down.

[36:10]I'm a guy with an allergy.

[36:12]I'm special too.

[36:12]Now, I went to a three-day, two-night work meeting with my wife.

[36:22]We went to a three-day, two-night work meeting with my wife.

[36:23]We went to a pathology national meeting.

[36:26]Oh.

[36:26]And it was one of the most boring things I've ever been to in my entire life.

[36:30]Imagine that all day you're in a hotel room with no food.

[36:34]Okay, by the way, if you want food, you have to go to the lobby,

[36:37]like you're some kind of animal and buy individual things of food.

[36:40]Some chip bags at the desk.

[36:42]You look like you're eating at the desk.

[36:43]Well, don't tell, by the way, don't tell my wife about that.

[36:47]I did tell her I went out and bought that food.

[36:48]I charged it to the room.

[36:49]My favorite picture of Rob's snacks from the hotel.

[36:52]Yeah.

[36:53]A few snacks.

[36:54]And then if you look, there were other ones in the trash.

[36:56]So he was on like, he was on like stack three of six.

[37:00]Let me just fill in the listeners.

[37:01]I sat down at the desk to eat my chips and whatever else I had from the-

[37:07]Some other stuff.

[37:08]There was a diet Mountain Dew.

[37:09]You had a diet Mountain Dew or was it a regular one?

[37:12]There was some candy bars in the garbage can.

[37:14]Getting super baked in your hotel room and then going down the lobby

[37:17]when you know they're going to charge it to the room.

[37:19]Oh, that is dangerous.

[37:20]Like I get it.

[37:21]And the guy would be like, that's $40.

[37:23]I'd be like,

[37:23]whoa, that's so much money charged to the room.

[37:26]We get there.

[37:29]We first buy in the lobby, Jenny's favorite candy.

[37:32]And I'm not joking about this.

[37:34]Can we guess this one or not?

[37:35]Yeah.

[37:36]Guess what?

[37:37]I would give you a hundred guesses and you would never get it.

[37:40]I'll go with sour apple jelly rancher.

[37:43]Okay.

[37:44]And Aaron?

[37:45]Runts.

[37:46]No.

[37:48]That's, you know what, Aaron?

[37:49]That's close to mine though.

[37:50]And you know that.

[37:51]A little lime in there.

[37:52]Oh, I love the lime flavor.

[37:53]Swedish, Swedish, Swedish fish.

[37:55]He does love Swedish fish, but no, it's, I'll tell you what,

[37:59]this candy is somehow similar to Swedish fish and absolutely different at the

[38:02]same time.

[38:03]Are there those circle things?

[38:04]Is this six months?

[38:07]Bro, I am not marrying somebody who likes six months of the best.

[38:10]I have standards.

[38:11]Those peach rings.

[38:12]The good peach rings.

[38:14]No, peach rings are good.

[38:15]I'll tell you what.

[38:15]Rob's got those in his, he's got those in his pocket.

[38:18]Yes.

[38:18]Boston beans.

[38:20]Those peanuts with the covering the Boston beans.

[38:23]She loves them.

[38:25]She talks about, hey, I'm going to show you the Boston beans candy.

[38:31]All right.

[38:32]These.

[38:32]Yeah.

[38:33]They're like.

[38:33]Okay.

[38:33]Right.

[38:34]Peanut covered with like a red shell type stuff.

[38:37]First day there, I ate them all.

[38:39]She didn't get a single one of those Boston beans.

[38:41]I'm up in the room.

[38:43]I ate all of them.

[38:45]And who knows why I was so hungry?

[38:47]Nobody knows.

[38:48]Okay.

[38:48]It's a big mystery.

[38:49]Okay.

[38:50]Then I have to go out and this happened two nights in a row to dinner.

[38:53]How many handfuls to take like three handfuls to eat them all or not?

[38:57]Were you just shoveling a bit or eating one by one?

[39:00]Listen, in the beginning, I was like, I'll just take two.

[39:02]I'm just going to have two.

[39:04]And that's enough.

[39:06]That's going to be fine.

[39:07]And then by the end, Russell, Russell, it was disgusting.

[39:09]Russell, it was terrible.

[39:12]What I was doing at the end.

[39:13]At the very end, Russell, there was one on the floor and I bent down and I ate that one too.

[39:18]There was no more food.

[39:21]I had to go to the lobby after that.

[39:22]Can I ask you a question?

[39:23]Yes.

[39:24]Were you not allowed out of the room except for dinner time?

[39:28]Why were you sequestered?

[39:29]Yes, pretty much.

[39:31]And guess what?

[39:32]Do you want to know what Boston's like in March?

[39:34]Probably sucks balls.

[39:36]It was rainy.

[39:36]It was gray.

[39:37]It was terrible.

[39:38]I didn't want to go out.

[39:39]Have you heard about these people that don't walk barefoot on carpet in hotels?

[39:44]We've talked about this.

[39:45]I believe.

[39:45]Yeah.

[39:46]Didn't we talk about this?

[39:47]How gross the carpet is and stuff.

[39:49]And they like bring extra pair of slippers just because.

[39:52]I can tell.

[39:53]I can tell.

[39:53]I can tell.

[39:53]I can tell you what.

[39:54]If you were in that hotel room that I was in for two days by myself,

[39:58]you also would not be walking on the floor.

[40:02]That comforter, you would be taking that baby off so fast.

[40:05]Didn't you like see if there was like a Bruins game or a Celtics game or something?

[40:08]That comforter?

[40:09]No, that was at night.

[40:10]I was busy all night.

[40:11]I was only free during the day.

[40:13]Guys, that comforter came back like it had been in Vietnam.

[40:16]It had a thousand yard stare.

[40:18]It's seen some shit in that room.

[40:23]Wow.

[40:23]I have to go out to dinner with just work friends.

[40:30]I don't know them.

[40:32]They're not friends in any other way.

[40:34]It's just work.

[40:34]They don't know you.

[40:35]So they don't know your shtick.

[40:37]They don't know you.

[40:37]No.

[40:38]And so I have to be like quiet because she did say to me one, but she goes, you can't

[40:42]talk about stuff like that with my people from work.

[40:45]I was like, oh no, I'm that husband.

[40:47]To be fair, Rob, she's accurate in saying that to you.

[40:53]She has a right to tell me not to do real concerns.

[40:55]She has a right to tell me not to do you.

[40:55]I don't know.

[40:56]You totally should have led with this.

[40:58]I just want to lose enough weight to cheat on my wife right in front of all of her college

[41:02]or her worker friends.

[41:04]So then I have to go out to work and these dinners, guys, when it's just the partners,

[41:09]work friends, I haven't been in this situation in years.

[41:12]I got blindsided by it.

[41:14]What's the appropriate time until I pull up my phone?

[41:16]Oh, you can't ever pull up the phone.

[41:19]You can't at all.

[41:19]Your phone should never come out.

[41:22]I was hoping you'd find it.

[41:23]I'd say seven minutes.

[41:24]Stuff like this is the perfect opportunity.

[41:26]Have a few drinks, have fun, and just ask people questions.

[41:30]People love to talk about themselves.

[41:33]Ask them about everything.

[41:34]That's why Russell's good at it.

[41:35]What shows are you into?

[41:36]You just keep asking people questions and you will be the hit of the show.

[41:40]But they were talking to each other about work.

[41:42]It wasn't like just chatting.

[41:45]Well, you've got to change the tone.

[41:49]You've got to be the trendsetter and start asking real questions that people want to talk about.

[41:53]This is why you should have brought Russell along.

[41:55]I should have done that because I bet I didn't look as cool looking at my Instagram for the last half hour of it.

[42:00]That probably...

[42:01]Her co-workers over there, they're like,

[42:04]are those hot grannies walking through offices on your phone there?

[42:08]Do not even get me started.

[42:09]Do not even get me started about what's on my Instagram right now.

[42:12]It's crazy.

[42:13]You definitely can't pull out the phone, though.

[42:15]Pulling out the phone, I would say that's faux pas number one.

[42:18]Yeah, can't do it.

[42:19]Okay, so maybe next time I'm going to do that.

[42:21]Can I tell you what, though?

[42:22]The ultimate...

[42:23]The ultimate trail was on this.

[42:24]You know why I went on this work trip?

[42:25]Why would I go on a work trip like this, do you think?

[42:27]I thought it was going to be a fuck fest.

[42:30]I was wondering if sex was...

[42:33]In my head, I was like, all right, it's fuck fest time.

[42:37]Work trip, away from the kids, in a hotel.

[42:39]Why did you go?

[42:40]Russell, my wife has one kink.

[42:43]Just one.

[42:45]Expensive boutique hotel rooms.

[42:48]She cannot resist.

[42:50]I was telling Matt earlier, if that...

[42:53]If that fucker has a pink wall, you know it's on, Russell.

[42:57]Rob's painting it.

[42:58]If there's a clock in that room that's not normal, oh, goddamn, I know I'm getting some.

[43:03]Chandelier in the room.

[43:04]Oh, painting it.

[43:06]Oh, comic book in a frame on the wall?

[43:09]Oh, painting it.

[43:10]Give it to me, give it to me.

[43:11]Won't show me the bill at the end.

[43:14]Sliding barn door, bathroom door, Rob.

[43:16]Painting it.

[43:18]Sliding barnyard bathroom door, Russell, forget about it.

[43:21]Half-eaten bag of popcorn on the...

[43:23]On the minibar?

[43:23]I don't like to gossip about my sex life, but one of us ate too many Boston baked beans, and so it didn't go very well.

[43:32]I've eaten too many Boston baked beans.

[43:38]Your favorite candy that you bought.

[43:40]And, oh, and guess what?

[43:41]Was there only one box down at the front desk?

[43:43]Yes.

[43:45]So how many people were at the...

[43:46]Was it like a dinner, Rob?

[43:47]Was it like a big party with hundreds of people?

[43:49]Or how many people are at this?

[43:51]It was a dinner with like 10 people.

[43:53]I think you are fully within your rights to get shit-faced.

[43:56]As long as you don't like insult someone or ruin it, I think you as that person, no one would care if you just kept ordering drink after drink.

[44:04]I think you're fine.

[44:06]As long as you don't ruin the night, you're okay.

[44:08]You know what, Russell?

[44:08]Next time I'm in a social situation, I'm going to take your advice.

[44:11]I'm going to really drill people.

[44:12]I'm going to go full date mode on them.

[44:15]I'm going to be asking them questions.

[44:16]It's going to be great.

[44:17]Get in there.

[44:17]So did Jenny say you couldn't do your like jokes because she didn't want you to have the attention or because she was worried you'd go dirty?

[44:23]No, it's because she skips work a lot to go lift weights.

[44:26]She's like, don't talk about how I'm lifting weights all the time instead of going to work.

[44:29]She didn't want you divulging like where she's like that she puts in like an errand hours.

[44:34]Yeah, because I talk to people all the time about how she never seems to work.

[44:38]And she's like, you can't talk about that when I'm talking to my work friends.

[44:41]Rolling going.

[44:42]Russell, how's it going with you?

[44:43]Rolling going, Rob.

[44:44]It's NCAA tournament time.

[44:46]Hit the music.

[44:47]I'm on the wrong page.

[44:49]It's called production, Rob.

[44:53]All right.

[44:54]So you guys thought I was going to maybe do the co-host tournament.

[44:58]Oh, we were thinking that for sure.

[45:01]Russell, we're not.

[45:02]We're going to Russ's AI chat GPT corner.

[45:06]I've got some tournament questions and I need to share the answers.

[45:09]Is that all right?

[45:10]Wow.

[45:11]Yeah, let's do it.

[45:12]So now wait a minute.

[45:13]Wait a minute.

[45:13]What do you mean?

[45:13]Tournament questions like what this is?

[45:15]Is this a tournament or is this your are we ranking questions?

[45:18]Some tournament questions about our podcast.

[45:22]Okay.

[45:23]First question.

[45:25]Russell's Russell.

[45:26]If the Beck did it better podcast had an NCAA tournament bracket.

[45:30]What seed would Rob be?

[45:34]Wow.

[45:34]What seed would Rob be in the Beck did it better tournament bracket?

[45:38]Number one.

[45:40]You know what?

[45:40]Honestly, I'm going to say three.

[45:42]You know what I mean?

[45:45]What do you think, Matt Aaron?

[45:46]Where's Rob getting ranked?

[45:47]Number one.

[45:48]One is the main host.

[45:49]If the Beck did it better podcast had a bracket.

[45:53]I imagine Rob would be a solid three or four seed.

[45:56]Oh, someone who is consistently great, but not necessarily overwhelming favorite to take the whole thing.

[46:01]Wow.

[46:02]So is this out of like 16?

[46:04]Is this like, is he a one or 16 or is he one out of four?

[46:07]The idea that I would be give leading questions is ridiculous, Matt.

[46:10]So the like the maps theme, I think that's a two seed.

[46:13]You know what I mean?

[46:14]Like there's sound effects that are higher than most of us in my mind.

[46:17]It said Rob is likely a fan favorite who delivers with thoughtful commentary, humor and insights.

[46:23]Putting him in a strong position in a high seed.

[46:25]Wow.

[46:26]That makes a lot of sense, Russell.

[46:28]So then I asked, I had to ask what seed would Aaron be?

[46:31]What do you guys think Aaron got ranked?

[46:33]If Rob's a three to a four, what's Aaron?

[46:35]Got to put him in a two seed, Russell, because the last couple of episodes have shown when Aaron's not here, we are floundering big time.

[46:43]Aaron, Matt, what do you think Aaron got?

[46:47]I think I'm a 12.

[46:48]I'm one of those 12s.

[46:49]Number one.

[46:49]I'm a 12 that could pick off a five.

[46:52]All right.

[46:53]It is actually saying they'd place Aaron at a two or three seed.

[46:57]Aaron seems like the kind of person who brings a lot of energy, expertise and a bit of unpredictability to the table.

[47:03]He likely has strong takes, maybe a little more boldness in his opinions and could be a formidable contender against anyone.

[47:10]Gee, that's sometimes I think that this AI is just making it up.

[47:14]But then when they said some of that shit, I was like, is it listening?

[47:16]Because they're like, Aaron's unpredictable.

[47:18]And I was like, that's exactly how I describe Aaron on the show.

[47:21]A true wild card.

[47:22]You never know.

[47:23]It's going to come out.

[47:24]The question to AI was, how about Matt?

[47:28]Would he be a blue blood high seed or a mid-major in the 12-5 game?

[47:32]What did they say?

[47:33]Mid-major, 12-5.

[47:36]Blue blood.

[47:36]I got to go blue blood.

[47:38]Not having him here, it'd be crazy to me.

[47:40]Matt thinks he would, they think Matt would be a sleeper pick in the tournament, a potential 12 seed.

[47:45]But with a lot of upside, it says he might not be as flashy or well-known as Rob or Aaron,

[47:51]but there's nothing about him that could.

[47:53]It doesn't make him a dangerous underdog, kind of like a mid-major team that nobody expects to make a deep run,

[47:58]but a strong, well-rounded game.

[48:01]Like a Xavier in the 90s.

[48:04]Next question, not leading in any ways.

[48:07]And finally, why would Russ be a number one seed?

[48:11]I got to see.

[48:13]Why?

[48:14]Why would I be the number one seed, guys?

[48:16]Tell me why.

[48:16]Okay.

[48:17]What did it say?

[48:18]It said Russ would absolutely be the number one seed in the back to the better.

[48:23]Podcast Tournament Bracket.

[48:24]First, he's probably the most well-rounded player in terms of experience, presence, and consistency.

[48:31]As a top seed, he brings a ton of authority and credibility to every episode.

[48:35]His insight, wit, and ability to steer conversations would make him a clear favorite.

[48:41]Yes.

[48:42]Wow.

[48:42]Russell, AI loves you.

[48:45]Hey, you should be on TikTok.

[48:46]How are they doing this?

[48:47]Is it reading our transcripts?

[48:49]I don't know.

[48:50]They do know our listeners, though, too, Aaron.

[48:52]I did have.

[48:53]I did have to ask AI one last question.

[48:54]All right.

[48:55]I asked them, which listener would take the whole tournament?

[49:01]And then I listed about 12 of them.

[49:02]I'm not going to read them because I don't want anyone to be offended if I didn't include their names.

[49:07]But who do you guys think would take the tournament bracket of out of all our listeners?

[49:11]Who do you think they would say?

[49:12]Oh, I definitely think Sarah from Eden Prairie would definitely because we've never left her off any list before.

[49:17]She was in the list.

[49:18]I can see her name.

[49:19]She's sure in there.

[49:20]Yeah.

[49:20]You know what?

[49:22]I'm going to say.

[49:23]I'm going to say my sister, who, again, is a real person.

[49:26]It's got to be magic.

[49:27]How about a little Rosie?

[49:28]Let's say a little Rosie.

[49:29]Oh, magic.

[49:30]All these people.

[49:31]All these people are in the email.

[49:32]It turns out if I had to pick a champion, they'd say magic.

[49:36]Mike has the edge.

[49:38]And here's why.

[49:38]Yeah, he's got the underdog charm combined with the potential for some surprising out of left field wins.

[49:45]People might underestimate him, but he's got the right balance of wit, strategy and humor to outlast the competition.

[49:52]I mean.

[49:53]Given the title, the Magic Mike.

[49:54]What do you guys think?

[49:55]I can't argue with that.

[49:55]Listen, I.

[49:57]Oh, gee.

[49:58]My plan is when I go out to Reno to see Magic Mike.

[50:01]It's coming up, isn't it?

[50:02]Okay.

[50:04]And one of you should come with because I think what we're going to do is we're going to go to the ranch and we're going to see who gets charged the most.

[50:10]You know what I mean?

[50:12]Like, we're just going to walk in and say, what would you charge us?

[50:14]Okay.

[50:14]And for me, they're probably going to say $45, $30, something like that.

[50:21]So I think everybody's going to be in big trouble.

[50:22]Speaking of big trouble, Matt Roland going, how's it going with you?

[50:27]How much money would you want to get paid to have sex with me?

[50:30]I guess is the question I'm going to be asking.

[50:32]Are we doing U.S. dollars?

[50:34]Now that I phrase it like that, it's not a, I don't, I do not want to know the answer to that question.

[50:40]Matt Roland.

[50:42]Rob, can you put on unsatisfied by the replacements?

[50:46]Wow.

[50:46]That's fine.

[50:48]Look me in the eye and tell me.

[50:52]Such a great song.

[50:52]Such a great song.

[50:53]Since we're only allowed 80 minutes for this, this podcast, this week, I'm just going to go real quick.

[50:59]So a couple of things.

[51:02]I took a couple of long flights this, this past week.

[51:06]And so I've a couple of quick things that I've learned.

[51:10]We watched Drop Dead Fred while we were in Ireland as a family.

[51:14]Did you know that Drop Dead, do you guys know that movie Drop Dead Fred?

[51:17]No, no, not at all.

[51:19]A little bit where there's like the, the ultra personality.

[51:22]Fred comes back, but the whole thing's filmed in Minneapolis.

[51:25]So right away, I had no ideas from like 1990s, things like that.

[51:28]So Drop Dead Fred, good, good movie for the kids, things like that.

[51:31]Not to be confused with Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead.

[51:35]That's right.

[51:36]Starring a still Getty.

[51:37]No, that was Don't, that was, that was Don't Move Where My Mom Would Shoot.

[51:42]Born in 1923.

[51:45]And so then this, this song, I put this song on because there is a documentary on Delta right now.

[51:52]If anybody's flying.

[51:52]In Delta called Flipside.

[51:54]It's about this guy who's a, a documentarian who had some success early and then kind of started making commercials.

[52:01]He's a director for a bunch of commercials and kind of had a midlife crisis and said,

[52:04]dang it, I'm a documentarian and I need to figure out how to get back to doing that.

[52:09]And so he went back and he started going back to his hometown in New Jersey.

[52:12]And he was doing a documentary about the record store that he worked at in his teenage years

[52:19]and how it's kind of failing and not going in with it.

[52:22]The Times and stuff like that.

[52:23]There's a bunch of other stories with it.

[52:25]But if you have any chance to watch Flipside documentary about a, a kind of a failing record store,

[52:34]it's pretty darn awesome.

[52:35]Russell, I think you would love it if you got a chance to watch it.

[52:38]So if you see Flipside on your next flight, watch that.

[52:40]But the ending scene, the ending credits were to this song.

[52:45]And I knew right away because of our guy, Replacements guy, this song was playing.

[52:49]I'm like, this sounds like the Replacements.

[52:51]And so.

[52:52]I got it, man.

[52:53]I had to look it up and it was the Replacements.

[52:54]And I had not heard this.

[52:56]Please tell me this was not on the album we did.

[52:58]Do you know?

[52:59]I don't think it is.

[53:00]I think it's on.

[53:01]No, it's on the album.

[53:03]No, it's on Let It Be.

[53:04]So I totally forgot.

[53:05]Yeah.

[53:06]Which one did we do?

[53:08]We did Tim, right?

[53:10]No, no, no.

[53:11]We did Let It Be.

[53:12]We did Let It Be?

[53:13]So I totally forgot that this was on it.

[53:15]But like, just maybe helps out that this album was way high on the list.

[53:20]It was a 160, I think.

[53:21]Yeah.

[53:21]Something like that.

[53:22]So what's one lesson you learned about a record store?

[53:24]Like what made a successful one or not a successful one?

[53:28]Did it get into that or not?

[53:29]Well, so the, I mean, a little bit like what this ultimately this guy, he had turned into

[53:35]more of an archivist than a record store sale.

[53:38]So like he'd have albums that he just didn't want to get rid of kind of a thing.

[53:42]Or he'd keep them in the basement, stuff like that.

[53:44]And there ends up being a competing record store that comes in.

[53:47]And the guy, all that guy wants really to do is be a bookstore, but he's realizing that he's

[53:52]selling more records than anything because he just doesn't care.

[53:55]You know, he's, it'd be like, you know, it'd be like if I got a whole bunch of Pokemon cards,

[53:58]like my kids love them, but I don't really care.

[54:00]Right.

[54:00]So somebody's like, Hey, five bucks.

[54:02]They'd be like, yeah, great.

[54:03]They're like no emotional attachment to it at all.

[54:05]It's just strictly business where this guy's been doing it for 30 years when they first

[54:09]kind of start this.

[54:10]And he's ultimately 40 years by the end of it.

[54:12]And he just can't, he just can't.

[54:15]That's, that's the name of the record store, but he just can't get rid of stuff.

[54:20]And he just doesn't care.

[54:21]You know, he doesn't.

[54:22]He doesn't want to try to be on social media, things like that.

[54:24]And so it's almost endearing.

[54:25]Like, you know, everything doesn't have to be about the last buck or selling everything

[54:30]like this is my life and these are my records and people want to buy what they want to buy.

[54:34]Great.

[54:35]If they don't, well, they can go fuck themselves kind of a thing.

[54:37]And, you know, so Matt, at any point, was there a record in that store that had a topless

[54:42]woman on the front holding a cat?

[54:43]What album was that Russell that you have?

[54:45]That was something about my dirty.

[54:47]Yeah.

[54:48]Oh yeah.

[54:49]My keywords.

[54:50]Something like that.

[54:50]Nope.

[54:51]Did not.

[54:51]I'm guessing, I'm just guessing by looking at this guy that that album is in that record store.

[54:56]But no, we did not.

[54:58]It was not featured.

[55:00]Have you guys ever thought about opening a shop of something?

[55:04]I used to.

[55:07]I would say it always sounds great, but I will never, ever, ever, ever.

[55:12]Matt ran a pizza shop.

[55:13]Ever do retail hours ever again.

[55:16]Ever, ever, ever, ever in my life do retail hours ever again.

[55:20]Also, no.

[55:21]Matt was a shop owner.

[55:22]It's almost like when your kids are growing up and then all of a sudden you add some more stress to your life like a dog or something.

[55:30]It just prolongs your freedom for the next 10 years.

[55:34]The difference is, Matt, is you can get rid of the pizza shop.

[55:36]You know what I mean?

[55:37]Yeah, that's true.

[55:39]A little bit harder with a giant, with a dog that seems to just be getting bigger and bigger every day.

[55:43]Someone else got rid of that dog.

[55:45]It's used to it, Aaron.

[55:45]You can send it back.

[55:46]It's true.

[55:47]I was going to ask that.

[55:49]If this dog's like two or three, like,

[55:51]what the hell happened?

[55:52]We don't know.

[55:52]It's confusing.

[55:53]You know?

[55:54]Yeah.

[55:54]It's really confusing.

[55:55]Aaron, if you, do you need any dog insulin?

[55:58]I've got a ton of dog insulin over here that I don't need anymore.

[56:01]If you know anybody who needs it, let me know.

[56:04]Just think of all the money you're going to save on not having to buy insulin, Rob, and not having to buy new underwear all the time.

[56:09]Wow.

[56:09]The fate of the world brought Calvin Klein into your life for a reason, Aaron.

[56:13]And we're happy that it followed you guys.

[56:15]I'll just tell you guys, I was sitting on the side of two ladies, my wife and my daughter, who were both looking at PetFinder.com.

[56:21]Of different dogs already.

[56:22]Yeah.

[56:23]And I was like, oh my God, you guys, let us, let us go.

[56:26]Yeah.

[56:27]So since we've only got 80 minutes, we better, we better wrap this up so we can fly through the album.

[56:32]All right.

[56:32]Let's get to everybody's, let's get to everybody's favorite part of the show.

[56:35]Oh, it's a music.

[56:36]Let's talk about the album.

[56:37]The show.

[56:37]Let's talk about the album.

[56:39]Oh, now listen, Tom Petty, born 1950.

[56:45]Okay.

[56:45]It's everybody's favorite part of the show now.

[56:47]Actually, it's October 20th.

[56:48]Sorry.

[56:49]What?

[56:50]I just said that Russell, nobody has ever cared about the date.

[56:55]When I say when people were born on this show, it is only the year.

[56:59]I guess no one cares he was born in Gainesville either.

[57:01]I guess.

[57:02]Well, that's good.

[57:03]Actually, you know, if our conversation, Rob and I had a conversation beforehand while we were waiting for everybody, it kind of does matter that he's born in Gainesville.

[57:13]I think his mom was a local tax office worker.

[57:16]I'll tell you, man, this guy looks like he was born in Florida, doesn't he?

[57:20]He looks like a Florida man.

[57:22]You're like, you're like this fucking guy.

[57:24]If he wasn't a famous rock star, you would be like doing something at a gator show.

[57:29]You know what I mean?

[57:29]Like he'd be trying to get you to come into the gator show with a toothpick in his mouth and be like, yeah, come on over.

[57:35]I think he's driving one of those.

[57:36]What are those little like swamp fan boats?

[57:39]Yeah.

[57:40]Fan boat.

[57:40]Yeah, he does.

[57:42]But he does look like he'd be a record store owner too in Florida.

[57:44]Doesn't he?

[57:45]Just stoned to the bejesus.

[57:46]Like a sweaty wet record shop.

[57:48]Yeah.

[57:48]Just sit back.

[57:49]Right.

[57:49]Yeah.

[57:50]I'll tell you what, old jeans, sweaty record.

[57:53]That's what I had my junior year of high school.

[57:55]God, I was roasting.

[57:58]Now, listen, listen, uh, Tom Petty before this, he releases two albums.

[58:06]Okay.

[58:06]I look back at those two albums.

[58:08]I got to admit, they look like they really sucked.

[58:10]One, uh, basically the only song American girl and breakdown.

[58:13]Okay.

[58:14]American girl is on his first album.

[58:15]Great song.

[58:15]Breakdown.

[58:16]MCA or MCA buys ABC records.

[58:20]Which has the contract for Tom Petty.

[58:23]So they say, okay, now MCA owns you, Tom Petty, make an album.

[58:26]And he goes, no, no, no, no, no.

[58:28]I don't, you're not, I, I was not supposed to get sold with the contract.

[58:31]So now I'm, so now he gets sued by MCA.

[58:34]So what does he do?

[58:36]Declares bankruptcies.

[58:37]So what does MCA do?

[58:39]Renegotiates a contract with him, sets them up with his own label.

[58:42]This is how big they thought Tom Petty was going to be after two albums that weren't that good.

[58:46]They were convinced he's going to be the future of rock and roll.

[58:48]They are throwing the bank.

[58:50]The bank Adam, uh, Jimmy Iovine produces this album.

[58:53]This is Petty's first.

[58:55]Have you guys seen, um, what's the, what's the HBO documentary about Jimmy?

[58:59]Have you guys seen that?

[59:01]He's the death row interscope guy, right?

[59:02]Yes.

[59:03]I will say I, I don't, he's worked with Dr.

[59:07]Dre, I think on beats headphones, I believe.

[59:09]Yeah.

[59:10]Um, I think he owned a big part of that, but, uh, I would highly, I don't know if Matt,

[59:13]you know, the name of that offhand, but people should go check out that.

[59:17]It's like a three part, probably six total hours.

[59:20]Uh, Jimmy Iovine, I think it's on HBO max.

[59:22]It's, it's really good.

[59:23]I know him from American idol.

[59:25]He was on American idol all the time.

[59:28]God, I watched the shit out of that.

[59:29]The defiant ones, the five, 2017, the defiant.

[59:32]So this is Petty's first top 10 album.

[59:35]It stays at number two on the list for seven weeks behind pink Floyd's the wall.

[59:43]It never gets to number one.

[59:44]Uh, and basically I thought this was interesting.

[59:47]The heartbreakers music is characterized as Southern rock.

[59:49]And Heartland rock, which is a term I haven't seen before, but then when they described

[59:54]Heartland rock, actually, Rob, I believe we may have, no, we may have done a list on

[59:58]the best Heartland rock songs before, but that's okay.

[60:00]Are you fucking serious?

[60:01]There's no way.

[60:03]Yeah, we did.

[60:04]There's no way.

[60:05]What episode is that?

[60:06]I don't believe you for a second.

[60:08]Keep going and I'll find it.

[60:09]I'll find it.

[60:09]Do you guys have any recollection of a Heartland rock list?

[60:12]I mean, if Russell says it, I believe it.

[60:14]Oh, so we got Bob Seger, John Mellencamp, which is like John Mellencamp to me is Heartland

[60:19]rock, like personified born in the USA.

[60:22]We discussed the most famous butts in music, Springsteen's deceptively depressing music

[60:27]and the best Heartland rock songs.

[60:29]We've done it before.

[60:30]We've done it.

[60:30]Fuck.

[60:31]Was it John Mellencamp and Bruce Springsteen on the list?

[60:35]Oh, did you refer to him as John Cougar Mellencamp?

[60:38]Cause that's the only way I recognize him.

[60:40]Maybe I, maybe that's why I was confused now.

[60:42]Uh, so let's get into the Heartland rock songs.

[60:47]Bob Seger, night moves.

[60:49]Tom Petty, American girl.

[60:51]Ryan Adams, summer of 69.

[60:54]John Mellencamp, small town.

[60:56]Yeah.

[60:57]Melissa Etheridge, come to my window.

[60:59]Ryan Adams, Canadian.

[61:02]And then we did something with Bruce Springsteen and Etheridge singing together.

[61:06]Thunder.

[61:07]Wow.

[61:07]Wow.

[61:08]All right, Russell.

[61:09]I stand corrected.

[61:10]I apologize.

[61:11]We also, this was also our Muppets phase when the Muppets did dancing in the dark.

[61:15]Just a reminder.

[61:16]Oh, we did a strong Muppets phase.

[61:18]That's true.

[61:19]Yeah, we're, we're out of the Muppets phase.

[61:21]I'm realizing now.

[61:22]Sometimes you don't realize things are over until it's too late.

[61:25]First song, Refugee.

[61:27]I have to.

[61:28]Guys, I'm just going to tell you something right now.

[61:32]I don't want to be negative.

[61:34]I hate this song.

[61:35]I've always hated this song.

[61:37]This is a song that I turn the radio station all the time.

[61:41]What's on the oldies station.

[61:42]What's on the talk radio.

[61:44]I mean, what's in the high school.

[61:46]What is it about?

[61:47]High school weight room.

[61:48]Oh,

[61:49]Oh, if this came out in the weight room, this would be turned so fast.

[61:52]I have never liked this song.

[61:53]Is it too slow?

[61:55]I think it's this creepy voice, but I'm just going to tell you guys right now.

[62:00]I'm not the biggest fan of this album.

[62:04]I'm just going to say it.

[62:05]I'm just going to be honest.

[62:06]I'm going to, I'm going to be positive about it, but this song has always just driven me crazy.

[62:13]But I got to admit, the chorus is pretty good.

[62:15]It's kind of got a little hook here.

[62:16]I was reading something about Petty.

[62:19]He said when he does, when he used to do live concerts, um, he would always get requests

[62:25]for like three songs.

[62:25]I forgot the first one, but the other two were last chance with Mary Jane and refugee

[62:30]was always one people wanted to hear.

[62:32]It's very sing alongable.

[62:33]Like I, Rob, I will, I will come to your side.

[62:36]It's not my favorite song either, but on the graph of songs that I don't love, but we'll

[62:41]also sing along to as loud as possible.

[62:43]This one's way in the upper quadrant.

[62:45]Aaron, you're so, it's the don't and then whatever that bit, that.

[62:48]And next beat right away.

[62:50]Don't boom, half boom to live.

[62:52]You know, it's just, it's a great sing along.

[62:54]Like you said, so you guys are good.

[62:56]Uh, listen, here comes my girl.

[63:00]The guitarist wrote this and refugee in one week.

[63:02]And Tom Petty said, listen, I can't quite figure out how to sing this song.

[63:05]So the experiments in a lot of different ways.

[63:07]And he kind of does this half singing.

[63:09]Can I ask?

[63:12]I got to ask Aaron right here.

[63:14]Yeah.

[63:14]I'm not trying to shit here.

[63:16]It seems like he's really strong.

[63:18]He's straining here.

[63:19]Like this seems out of his, am I wrong on that or not?

[63:22]No, but I think that's the charm of it.

[63:25]Part of the, part of the appeal.

[63:26]He's like willing to try it.

[63:28]Yeah.

[63:29]I mean, it's like, I mean, it's kind of Springsteen-esque, but I don't think he has the same power that Springsteen does.

[63:33]I think it's the art of the lyrics.

[63:36]He's straining with the, and then it's very calm.

[63:40]Yeah, it makes sense.

[63:41]I think it's just the, to me and I, Rob, I love this album.

[63:45]So I'm going to tell you, you know, we're a little bit of on opposite sides here, but

[63:48]I think it's the nuance in Tom Petty that you don't hear on the radio.

[63:54]But if you start listening to a ton of songs together and I'll, I'll, I'll let Joe from

[63:59]East St. Paul, you know, kind of take the credit for this.

[64:03]Like you put all of these together and you're like, God damn, this guy writes good music.

[64:07]There you go.

[64:07]And the heartbreakers and all of them.

[64:09]Can I tell you part of the, part of the problem?

[64:10]Yep.

[64:11]Did you see the cover of this album?

[64:12]It looks like he's like torn on this.

[64:15]I thought he was in some underwear.

[64:17]I was like, is this?

[64:18]Is this like a teen magazine cover?

[64:20]It's like Mandy Moore or something.

[64:22]Yeah.

[64:23]You can.

[64:24]He's a weird fucker.

[64:25]Guys, he's a weird fucker.

[64:27]Tom Petty looks so much like my female chemistry teacher.

[64:30]It's crazy to me.

[64:32]Tom Petty.

[64:34]You think he's wearing pants under the guitar?

[64:35]It's this, guys, go look at the album cover for Damn the Torpedoes and just say to yourself,

[64:42]who thought this was a good idea?

[64:43]It's a weird album cover.

[64:45]Tom Petty should be so far in the background.

[64:48]He should be, you should have to get a microscope to look at this guy.

[64:51]I mean, it looks, it looks like I would be worried he's going to try to eat my brains.

[64:55]Honestly, look, just looking at him.

[64:57]And this is him at his youngest.

[64:58]Can I just back up by the way and say, Russell, can you imagine going to a concert and hoping

[65:03]you hear Last Dance with Mary Jane?

[65:05]Like the banger of a song.

[65:07]What do you do?

[65:09]You dance along with it?

[65:10]Like it's a weird tempo.

[65:11]Oh, you sing with it.

[65:13]You're singing it?

[65:13]Last Dance?

[65:15]I mean, Tom Petty, if you want to go back to like, this is for the play.

[65:18]Pleasure Principle, Tom Cruise with Free Fallin'.

[65:20]Tom Petty's probably got, he's probably a top 10 all-time sing-along band.

[65:25]Yeah, Free Fallin' and Refugee.

[65:27]I mean, just those two.

[65:29]I think I've identified it.

[65:31]I think I'm a Tom Petty hater, but I do think Running Down a Dream is one of the greatest

[65:34]songs ever created.

[65:35]You know what I mean?

[65:37]Like he's, I think I like later Tom Petty.

[65:39]I like like that 90s.

[65:40]You know what it is?

[65:42]What?

[65:44]I think the Tom Petty for our age, it's the Tom Petty's greatest hits.

[65:48]I had that CD twice.

[65:50]I bet all of you guys had the Tom Petty's greatest hits.

[65:53]I think this is an awesome album, but when you've got all the greatest hits, it's hard

[65:58]to kind of peel back from that and not hear all of them in a row.

[66:00]Yeah, that's true.

[66:02]That's true.

[66:03]Because what bugged me on this album were the Filler songs, I thought.

[66:05]But it's only Filler because he's got so many other good songs.

[66:09]Because the rest are his killer.

[66:11]Even The Losers.

[66:13]I mean, this is a pretty strong opening three songs.

[66:16]It's very true.

[66:18]It's probably the three best sing-along songs for an album ever.

[66:21]Now that I know this is from 79, it makes me think of Elvis Costello, too.

[66:26]It's like similar.

[66:27]Oh, this whoops the shit out of any of these Elvis Costello albums.

[66:32]Really?

[66:33]It sounds like him, though.

[66:35]I hear it.

[66:36]It sounds like him, but here's what I think.

[66:39]He's like, Elvis Costello is like the beatnik, right?

[66:43]So all the people from New York City, like, but Heartland America.

[66:48]And kind of some of the Southern rock people, they just, this is the guy that they like, I think.

[66:53]And that's probably why he sold so many albums.

[66:55]Here's how you can tell.

[66:57]How many people that we went to college with had Elvis Costello on their win and player?

[67:01]Zero.

[67:02]Yeah, right.

[67:03]Everybody had Tom Petty, right?

[67:04]Tom Petty.

[67:05]Now, guys, I'm going to sound like a hater for saying this, but just bear with me.

[67:08]Hater's going to hate.

[67:10]I'm going to sound like a hater, but I hate this fucking song.

[67:12]No, the quote on Genius is that the guitarist Mike Campbell is struggling to come up with a guitar solo for even The Losers.

[67:18]And so Tom Petty turns to him and goes, what would Chuck Berry do?

[67:22]And so I was so intrigued by that.

[67:24]I was like, I have to go listen to this guitar solo.

[67:26]This guitar solo must blow my fucking doors off.

[67:29]Listen to this.

[67:30]Dude.

[67:34]I didn't even realize it was a solo.

[67:40]It's so far back in the mix.

[67:41]When we get to Century City, there's another Chuck Berry one in there.

[67:45]And I was, I was looking, reading about this today.

[67:48]The reason is Mike Campbell, right?

[67:51]Yes.

[67:52]The reason he is in the band is because Tom Petty went to watch a drummer audition and Mike Campbell was playing with the drummer.

[68:00]And he heard him and he said, that's the best rendition of a Chuck Berry song I've ever heard and hired him because he thought he did amazing Chuck Berry work.

[68:08]Wow.

[68:09]That's crazy.

[68:10]That was just the same note over and over, wasn't it?

[68:12]Can I play a Chuck Berry solo?

[68:14]I feel like I could now.

[68:16]It's pretty simple, isn't it?

[68:16]Yeah, it feels like.

[68:17]I mean, it's simple.

[68:18]Simplicity is valuable, right?

[68:19]It can be beautiful.

[68:20]Shadow of a Doubt, Complex Kid.

[68:24]He does have a fun voice.

[68:30]He can sound so many different ways.

[68:32]Chameleonic.

[68:36]I was going to ask Aaron about this next week when we talk Coltrane.

[68:41]Like if he knows, like when he hears a song, if he knows what song it is.

[68:45]And when you hear these Petty songs, you know it.

[68:48]You know exactly who it is within like three beats, right?

[68:51]Yeah.

[68:51]100%.

[68:53]Century City.

[68:54]This is a, this is a song about moving out to California.

[68:58]Rob, go to about a minute 50 and a little before two minutes.

[69:02]This is where I heard, I heard just straight Chuck Berry here.

[69:05]Yeah.

[69:08]Okay.

[69:08]Yeah.

[69:09]That's for sure.

[69:09]Right?

[69:10]Yeah.

[69:10]Wow.

[69:13]Ain't no note over and over.

[69:15]At least this guitar.

[69:17]The guitar's a little forward in the mix.

[69:19]That last guitar was so far back.

[69:21]I was insulting.

[69:22]It was like, Hey, great solo.

[69:23]Turn it down.

[69:24]Turn down the volume on it.

[69:26]Sometimes I have to do that with certain people.

[69:28]Turning down the volume so people can't hear their jokes as much.

[69:32]And maybe concentrate on other people's jokes.

[69:33]So I've actually been working really hard on them.

[69:35]My sweat, the petty stuff joke.

[69:37]Aaron, did you hear that one earlier?

[69:38]Do you guys know anybody that moved out to California?

[69:41]Like, you know, it was like, I'm going to be a superstar.

[69:45]I'm going to do something.

[69:46]Rob, man.

[69:47]Yeah.

[69:48]Aaron knows this.

[69:49]I actually went out with a friend and he broke the news to me that we were out for beers

[69:52]that he told me he was moving to California.

[69:54]We had like a, uh, a friend moment.

[69:56]It was Aaron.

[69:57]That's right.

[69:58]Aaron and I went out to watch the Vikings jets game when Brett Favre threw his 500th

[70:03]touchdown to Randy Moss.

[70:04]And we went to champs in St.

[70:06]Paul and Aaron, Aaron broke the news to me that he was moving to California.

[70:10]Wow.

[70:10]That's going out here to be a big star.

[70:12]I didn't know at the time it was going to be on his wedding too, but Rob, you weren't

[70:16]invited to that.

[70:17]So I think we would have shared it with you, but he was like, I'm not inviting him.

[70:20]Terrible.

[70:21]Man.

[70:21]You know, anybody that moved out to California to pursue fortune and fame?

[70:24]Yeah, this guy, uh, I mean, Dick Fritz.

[70:27]I don't know if you guys remember him from St.

[70:29]Olive.

[70:29]He moved out there.

[70:30]It was been in a few things and, um, St.

[70:34]Olive guy.

[70:34]There's, there's, there's been a few, there's been a few, uh, goodie baseball players and

[70:39]he out in California at a winery.

[70:41]Yeah.

[70:41]But I mean, like Rob's talking about like trying to go be a movie star or rock star

[70:46]or something like that.

[70:47]Not just, not just moving out there because some girls made him move out there or whatever,

[70:52]things like that.

[70:53]So, yeah, no, I mean, there's a few other people.

[70:56]None that have made it, made it, if you will.

[71:00]But there's a guy from Richfield.

[71:02]Uh, he's a lot older than I am, but he was in some TV shows and stuff and trying to stall

[71:08]while we look at Rob.

[71:09]If you were going to be, if you were ever going to try to make it as a singer, where

[71:13]would you have gone to try to make it in the music business?

[71:16]I guess I would have tried to go to New York because of the kind of music I was trying

[71:20]to do.

[71:20]But if I was going to try to do, if I was going to like try to do pop music, I would

[71:23]have come out here probably or gone to LA.

[71:25]Guys, I'm sorry.

[71:27]I'm going to the bathroom so much.

[71:28]I drank like a gallon of water before we started recording.

[71:31]Huge mistake.

[71:32]Why would I do that?

[71:33]What am I thinking?

[71:34]Uh, I had a cousin who went out and now he was a, uh, he, he does like a, he does like

[71:42]drone shots with cameras and stuff as he worked on all the Transformers movies.

[71:45]We are always so jealous.

[71:46]Uh, Russell, our intramural soccer, uh, teammate, um, came out here and she was in

[71:53]Spider-Man two.

[71:54]She was in some other stuff that we can't talk about too.

[71:57]Oh, well, that was my cousin's first thing is he was like, yeah, my first job was I held

[72:01]lights for like a Playboy shoot.

[72:02]And I was always like, okay, no, awesome.

[72:05]God, I'm so jealous.

[72:06]Oh my God.

[72:08]I would love to do that.

[72:09]And you know, that would be like the worst thing to do.

[72:11]You'd just be like, it'd be so businesslike and so like, you know, it would, it'd just

[72:15]be, it would destroy.

[72:16]It would destroy your whole image of it.

[72:17]And I would just be like, yeah, it's like, Oh, this is like work.

[72:21]Yeah.

[72:23]Tell the guy, hold the license.

[72:24]Stop saying, Oh yeah.

[72:25]Oh, the mic is picking up his moaning noises.

[72:33]It's the, it's the sweaty petty guy over there.

[72:38]What do you mean?

[72:39]I don't get my own.

[72:40]What do you mean?

[72:41]I don't get my own trailer.

[72:42]He keeps passing the director a note about petting the sweaty stuff.

[72:46]We're not, sir.

[72:47]We're not going to use that line.

[72:48]Okay.

[72:50]It's kind of a punch up.

[72:51]I think it's pretty good.

[72:52]Don't do me like that.

[72:54]This song is a bop.

[72:56]I like the piano on here.

[72:57]At one point, he wrote this song and almost sent it off to Jay Giles band.

[73:08]Cause he was like, this sounds just like the Jay Giles band.

[73:10]And I was like, I hear it.

[73:11]I hear it.

[73:12]Okay.

[73:13]Yeah.

[73:13]Yep.

[73:13]Huey newest Huey Lewis in the news.

[73:15]Jay Giles band.

[73:16]They, Jay Giles would have crushed with this song.

[73:19]Rob, you mentioned at the beginning of the podcast that this made it to number two.

[73:23]I don't think it ever made it to number one.

[73:25]No.

[73:25]So I started looking.

[73:26]What are the other great albums that made it to number two, but never made it to number

[73:30]one.

[73:30]And I thought we could do a quick list of those.

[73:32]Wow.

[73:33]Wow.

[73:33]Russell.

[73:34]I'm.

[73:34]These are some different ones.

[73:37]We've never heard.

[73:37]I don't think any of these artists, maybe one.

[73:39]I feel like I did a number two list.

[73:42]I'm not kidding.

[73:43]You did.

[73:43]I feel like I did.

[73:44]Yeah.

[73:45]Cause you did it twice.

[73:45]Well, no.

[73:46]I did it with Credence.

[73:47]Clearwater revival had like, that might've been number one.

[73:50]That might've been number.

[73:50]Credence didn't have a number one song.

[73:52]This is albums on the top 200.

[73:54]This is not number one, number one hit songs.

[73:56]Okay.

[73:57]It's number two on the billboard.

[73:58]200 albums.

[73:59]First song on the list.

[74:01]We've never talked about this band.

[74:03]I don't know if this is a math style band or not.

[74:05]The album is hybrid theory.

[74:07]The band is Lincoln park.

[74:08]Wow.

[74:09]This is a band I never liked.

[74:13]And anytime I hear a Lincoln park song now, I'm like, yeah, this is right.

[74:16]I like, yeah, kind of does rock, doesn't it?

[74:19]We did not know how good we had it, right?

[74:21]Yeah.

[74:21]There was like fucking hard rock on the radio.

[74:24]We could have all gotten into it.

[74:25]Instead, we made fun of them and we continued to listen to Christina Aguilera.

[74:30]The videos.

[74:31]This was, who's the Canadian band.

[74:34]Everyone makes fun of.

[74:35]Oh, Nickelback.

[74:37]Nickelback.

[74:38]Like, is this in the Nickelback?

[74:39]No.

[74:40]Who is, what is this compared to?

[74:42]This is like, wait, these guys are unbelievable.

[74:45]Chester Beck.

[74:46]Eddington.

[74:47]Yeah.

[74:47]Lincoln park.

[74:47]This is literally like a new music.

[74:50]I mean, new metal.

[74:51]It's like a real.

[74:52]Here's the way I want to ask.

[74:53]Let me ask this differently.

[74:53]Matt, if you were going to see Lincoln park in a concert, who, like, who is the band that

[74:58]opens for them or who do they, who do they, who would they tour with?

[75:01]That's what I'm trying to get at.

[75:03]Well, back in the late nineties, it was, it was some, you know, it was.

[75:06]Incubus.

[75:07]I'm trying to think of like the, the rap rock.

[75:09]I bet atmosphere is done.

[75:10]Yeah.

[75:10]Maybe like a.

[75:11]Limp Bizkit or no.

[75:13]Yeah.

[75:14]Like a Limp Bizkit or like a, who's the other.

[75:16]I'm drawing a blank.

[75:18]Yeah.

[75:18]It's a cheesy mustache.

[75:19]It was a lot more of that hard rock rap kind of stuff.

[75:24]So this album was on the, on the top 200.

[75:26]I bet it would be like people like earth gang and stuff too, though.

[75:28]Like, I think it would, like, I think they would have had actual hip hop groups.

[75:31]They were on the top 200 for 350 weeks, seven years.

[75:35]That's amazing to be up there that long.

[75:37]Wow.

[75:37]Guess the band that kept them out of number one.

[75:40]Had to be creed.

[75:43]It is creed with the album weather.

[75:46]I was going to say they would, they would tour with like a creed, but they're just, you

[75:52]know, they're just a little bit, you know, but yeah.

[75:54]Wait, we get, we, you know what?

[75:55]We've talked enough about creed.

[75:56]Let's listen a little bit.

[75:57]Oh, this is huge.

[76:00]Oh, right.

[76:01]This was everywhere.

[76:02]Creed's touring with somebody.

[76:05]Oh man.

[76:05]This, this just reminds me of like thinking about kissing girls all the time.

[76:12]When this song was on, I was thinking about kissing girls.

[76:15]Thinking about kissing girls.

[76:16]75% of the time.

[76:16]Oh, Aaron, I cannot tell you how much of my brainpower in my life has been dedicated to

[76:22]kissing girls.

[76:23]Like it's all I thought about every day in college.

[76:26]It's all I thought about.

[76:27]There's a, there's a summer of 99 and beyond festival this summer, the 18th and 19th of

[76:33]July.

[76:34]And I'm not trying to figure out where it's at, but, uh, night one Nickelback is, is the

[76:39]headliner, uh, opening up in reverse order.

[76:43]So the second, the second to last group is live.

[76:46]His favorite live album, Daughtry, Tonic, Our Lady Peace, and Lit.

[76:51]Wow.

[76:51]Our Lady Peace and Lit.

[76:53]Yep.

[76:54]Creed, Three Doors Down, Seven Dust, Mammoth, WVH, I don't know them, Hinder, Vertical

[77:01]Horizon, and Fuel.

[77:02]I don't know Mammoth, WVH, but Hinder, Vertical Horizon, and Fuel.

[77:06]That is going to have some, some late forties people drinking Bushlight beer.

[77:13]Wow.

[77:13]Here's the Linkin Park show from May, 2015.

[77:16]Um, Slipknot, Linkin Park, Papa Roach, Marilyn Manson, Papa Roach, System of a Down, Fall

[77:23]Out Boy, Modest Mouse, Incubus, Weezer, was under the edge and I'm about to break.

[77:27]Is that Papa Roach or not?

[77:29]Yeah.

[77:29]Was it the wrong one?

[77:30]They were, um, it's cut my life in two pieces.

[77:33]This is my last resort.

[77:35]Yeah.

[77:36]Last resort.

[77:37]All right.

[77:39]Next album on the list that made it to number two did not make it to number one.

[77:43]This is from 2002.

[77:44]The artist is Justin Timberlake.

[77:46]The album is Justified.

[77:48]Oh.

[77:48]Did not make number one.

[77:51]This album didn't make it to number one?

[77:55]That's crazy.

[77:56]Yeah, this thing was everywhere.

[77:57]You guys want to guess?

[77:59]The artist that kept him off the list.

[78:02]What year is this?

[78:02]Eminem, 8 Mile, 2002.

[78:04]All right.

[78:06]8 Mile.

[78:07]Boy.

[78:08]That was an even bigger album that this never beat that.

[78:12]That's crazy.

[78:13]I bought that CD.

[78:14]It kept it out of number one.

[78:14]I bought that 8 Mile CD.

[78:15]It is not.

[78:16]It is not good.

[78:16]It doesn't hold up.

[78:17]Not good?

[78:18]I mean, I shouldn't say it's not good.

[78:20]It's just the one song.

[78:21]It's just got filler on it.

[78:22]That Justin Timberlake album, man.

[78:26]That is a hot album.

[78:27]Oh.

[78:27]All right.

[78:28]Well, let's stick in 2002 for another album.

[78:31]Made it to number two, not number one.

[78:32]The album is Let Go.

[78:34]It's Avril Lavigne.

[78:35]Wow.

[78:35]Oh, that's a fun one.

[78:37]It's a jam, right?

[78:40]Giant.

[78:41]You forget how giant Avril Lavigne was.

[78:43]This song was everywhere.

[78:44]You could not.

[78:46]You could not turn on a radio without hearing this.

[78:47]Another female act that kept her off the list.

[78:52]Who was the act that kept her off the list?

[78:54]In 1998?

[78:57]2002.

[78:59]It's a band we listened to recently.

[79:02]It's the Chicks.

[79:03]The album Home kept them out of number one.

[79:06]That makes sense.

[79:07]Like you're something else.

[79:08]All right.

[79:10]We're going to 2004.

[79:11]I think we've covered this album before.

[79:12]I could be wrong.

[79:13]The album is College Dropout.

[79:15]It's Kanye West.

[79:15]Made it.

[79:16]It's number two.

[79:16]Yeah, we did this one, right?

[79:18]We've done all of them.

[79:18]Yeah, we for sure did this.

[79:19]Necklace.

[79:23]Say what you want.

[79:25]His album sounds so good.

[79:26]Listen to this.

[79:27]2004.

[79:30]He was kept out of number one by none other than Nora Jones.

[79:33]Feels like home.

[79:35]I mean, that album, everybody had that CD.

[79:37]That was everywhere.

[79:38]That's crazy.

[79:40]By the way, Aaron had an announcement to make about 8 Mile.

[79:42]I want to make sure we get this clean.

[79:44]Aaron, what's your announcement?

[79:44]Go for it.

[79:46]It's a better soundtrack than I remember.

[79:47]It has Wangstown on it.

[79:48]You Want to Be Me by Nas.

[79:51]Spitshine by Exhibit.

[79:52]What an apology.

[79:53]I got to give an apology to the 8 Mile soundtrack.

[79:56]All of everybody who burned their 8 Mile soundtrack CDs in the last five minutes,

[80:00]you should get them out of the fire because it's actually good.

[80:02]See, now that's, I got to say, that's where CDs were confusing.

[80:06]Because when you said burning CDs, Aaron, what I pictured was that guy I knew at St.

[80:12]Olaf had like 100,000 burned CDs in his room.

[80:15]It's apparently all he did.

[80:16]Right.

[80:16]But when you said burning CDs, like if I worked at a factory and they were like,

[80:20]hey, we need you to burn the CD, you got to ask a follow-up question, right?

[80:24]Right.

[80:26]What's the follow-up question?

[80:29]What kind of burning are we talking about, Russell?

[80:31]Right.

[80:32]Are we talking about throwing it in a fire?

[80:33]Mm-hmm.

[80:34]Or do you want me to replicate this on my early CD burner,

[80:38]which works apparently one out of every five times?

[80:40]They just didn't work that often.

[80:41]It would take like 10 hours to make it.

[80:44]Why did it take 10 hours?

[80:46]10 hours to burn a CD.

[80:46]You would, it would take you so fucking long to burn a CD.

[80:50]Can you imagine if I showed my kids how long I sat to wait for a CD to burn with 18 songs?

[80:55]I'd be like, yes, I would often wait upwards of five hours for that to be done.

[80:58]They'd be like, dad, that's insane.

[81:00]You could not have waited five hours.

[81:02]And your computer would start making the weirdest sounds.

[81:03]Your laptop would sound like it was like lighting, like trying to launch a missile.

[81:06]66% of the time, it would just say at the end, it would go, error, didn't work.

[81:10]You'd be like, what the fuck?

[81:11]Oh, that's the worst.

[81:12]What the fuck?

[81:13]And you're like, now this lady's never going to kiss me.

[81:16]You just made her my mix CD.

[81:18]Last album on the list.

[81:20]This is from 2010.

[81:21]Rob, I believe you've seen her in person.

[81:23]The album is the fame.

[81:24]It's Lady Gaga.

[81:25]Number two, not number one.

[81:27]Wow.

[81:27]Banger.

[81:29]The act that kept her out of number one was from a talent show.

[81:39]Britain's Got Talent or The X Factor.

[81:41]It was Susan Boyle.

[81:42]I dreamed a dream.

[81:44]Kept Lady Gaga.

[81:46]From number one.

[81:47]Is that crazy or what?

[81:48]Susan Boyle.

[81:49]I dreamed a dream.

[81:52]She was on Britain's Got Talent or something, right?

[81:54]The audition is amazing.

[81:55]Well, I mean.

[81:56]I mean, she rocked it.

[81:57]Yeah.

[81:58]You know this one, Rob, or not?

[82:00]Yeah.

[82:01]I just, it's so weird, though, because Susan Boyle, everybody like, it's like she's a

[82:08]good singer, but really what she was.

[82:10]Was an ugly lady.

[82:12]Was ugly.

[82:13]And everybody's like, isn't it crazy?

[82:15]This ugly person.

[82:16]Can't sing.

[82:16]Everybody's like, wow.

[82:17]This really lifts us up.

[82:20]I mean, she's a crazy good singer.

[82:22]Susan Boyle was a phenomenon.

[82:30]Do you remember the Susan Boyle phenomenon?

[82:31]She was such a phenomenon.

[82:32]She kept Lady Gaga out of the number one spot.

[82:35]Crazy, right?

[82:36]That's absolutely crazy.

[82:37]Russell, that's an incredible list.

[82:39]Lady Gaga also said after Tom Petty died, she had an Instagram post.

[82:44]Thank you for the gift.

[82:46]Thank you for the gift of music that you gave and will continue to give the world through

[82:48]your legacy.

[82:49]You were a gift to the world.

[82:51]Hashtag Tom Petty.

[82:52]So obviously a Tom Petty fan, right?

[82:54]Respect.

[82:55]Hmm.

[82:56]He probably, good thing she didn't go to his funeral.

[82:58]She'd be wearing a meat suit down in Florida.

[83:00]Oh my God.

[83:01]We're in a meat suit when it's that hot out.

[83:03]You guys know what I'm talking about.

[83:04]Lady Gaga meat suit.

[83:05]I'm not old.

[83:06]I was, that made me think I'd rather see a feet suit.

[83:11]You know you can run meat with feet, Rob?

[83:15]Why would you even do that to yourself?

[83:16]If you still got it, you still got it.

[83:18]I don't care what you tell me.

[83:20]You got me thinking though, with a feet suit.

[83:22]I got to admit, I am thinking about it.

[83:23]We can fly through the endless.

[83:29]Like this is Bowie influence for sure.

[83:33]What are you doing in my life?

[83:35]Trying to do this podcast.

[83:37]Oh, we got a little Jerry Lee Lewis happening on the keys.

[83:45]Anybody still listening at this point in the album?

[83:49]Man, no.

[83:51]Man, come on.

[83:54]No, not listening.

[83:56]I moved on to Wildflowers.

[83:59]Oh, that's Louisiana rain.

[84:02]I just wrote terrible songs at the end.

[84:05]This feels like, this is like a Dylan song, right?

[84:09]No, it's a Rolling Stones, isn't it?

[84:13]Yeah, I mean, you know,

[84:14]he's clearly trying to, you know,

[84:15]trying to set up his album here, right?

[84:18]So he had that little guitar or the little piano one,

[84:21]and then he kind of goes into this slower one at the end,

[84:23]but it just doesn't hit.

[84:25]It's a great ending song.

[84:27]I mean, you know, it's like,

[84:29]it's a good tone for the end of an album,

[84:31]but it's not a very, it's not that good.

[84:33]It brings you down, right?

[84:34]It's a good fit.

[84:35]So maybe Tom Petty's biggest problem

[84:37]is that he's Tom Petty.

[84:38]He's got so many other good songs.

[84:40]Because guess what, guys?

[84:41]If he was some hot chick with good looking feet, Rob,

[84:43]he'd be all over the song, I can tell you that.

[84:45]Oh, man.

[84:46]You think a foot thing is that she has to be hot?

[84:49]That just shows that you're not a real foot guy, okay?

[84:53]If it was Susan Boyle, it doesn't matter, okay?

[84:56]As long as she's got nice long feet with toes

[85:00]that look like flesh-colored Skittles.

[85:01]That's all Aaron wants.

[85:03]Oh, Rob, look at those Boston Beans candies down there.

[85:07]I mean, I would eat up of those Boston Beans toes.

[85:10]Weird image, Rob.

[85:11]Hey, those heels go all the way up.

[85:13]All right, listen.

[85:15]Congratulations, guys.

[85:16]You have just listened to the last Tom Petty song

[85:19]you're going to hear on this entire list.

[85:21]This is the last album.

[85:22]Oh, that's tough.

[85:24]There are no more Tom Petty albums.

[85:25]So no Last Dance with Mary Jane?

[85:28]Was Last Dance on an album?

[85:32]Or was it a single that just got added to the great album?

[85:34]It was a filler song to fill out.

[85:36]He had a contract to fill out.

[85:38]Yeah.

[85:39]And he recorded it while he was doing Wildflowers.

[85:42]What about Free Fallin'?

[85:43]Where did that land on the album?

[85:44]And Into the Great White.

[85:45]That's quite open, right?

[85:46]That's earlier.

[85:46]That's on his 1991 album that basically,

[85:49]when I'm watching VH1 trying to watch Salt-N-Pepa,

[85:52]it would just show him as the bad hat.

[85:54]That's him and Johnny Depp.

[85:55]I've got weird issues with it.

[85:58]Now.

[85:58]Speaking of weird issues,

[86:02]you guys should subscribe to my magazine.

[86:03]What's it called?

[86:06]I was hoping I'd think of a joke by now.

[86:09]This is not good for the live show, guys.

[86:13]If this happens in the live show,

[86:14]I'm in big trouble.

[86:15]Oh, you're going to go dirty.

[86:16]You're just going to work.

[86:17]69.

[86:18]I mean, it was right on the tip of my tongue.

[86:19]I had to say it.

[86:20]We can give you cue cards

[86:21]with just a bunch of dirty stuff

[86:23]so it's available for you.

[86:24]Okay, good.

[86:24]Barry from Birdsville can hold it.

[86:28]Yeah, Neil from Lakeville.

[86:30]They can hold them up in the back.

[86:32]Okay, I'm seeing they're holding up a card

[86:34]that just says double H-J.

[86:35]Okay, yep, that does have to be good.

[86:37]Good, good.

[86:37]I'm ready to go.

[86:38]I was down.

[86:40]See, he gets a laugh from Aaron.

[86:41]It gets a laugh.

[86:43]That's the problem.

[86:44]Of course.

[86:45]The problem is not me.

[86:47]It's you guys.

[86:48]You reinforce it, Aaron.

[86:49]I know.

[86:50]I know I shouldn't.

[86:51]I know I shouldn't.

[86:52]Oh, Aaron, by the way,

[86:53]we got to cut some of your laughs.

[86:55]We need you to say like three or four things.

[86:56]Uh-huh.

[86:57]Like, oh, Rob, that's so funny

[86:59]and things like that

[87:00]so we can cut them

[87:01]so you're not at the beginning.

[87:02]We've got a little,

[87:03]we've got a computer, Aaron.

[87:04]This is 231 on the top 500 albums,

[87:07]but does it belong at 231?

[87:08]Should it be a little bit higher up on the list?

[87:11]Now, you might say to yourself,

[87:11]well, higher up,

[87:12]that must be a higher number.

[87:13]Eh, sorry.

[87:14]It's like,

[87:15]it's like an elevator.

[87:15]Don't ask me to expand on that.

[87:19]If you're going underground

[87:20]to a bunker, Aaron,

[87:21]okay, the lower you go,

[87:22]the higher the number.

[87:23]That's what's happening here.

[87:24]That's a rolling bone.

[87:26]If you think it should have been

[87:27]higher up on the list,

[87:28]it shouldn't be this far back.

[87:29]It should have been up

[87:30]with a lower number.

[87:30]Is this a rolling groan?

[87:32]Okay, we actually didn't like this album.

[87:35]It should have been a higher number,

[87:36]lower on the list later in our lives.

[87:39]Okay, or is this,

[87:40]you know what?

[87:40]It's perfect.

[87:41]Rolling well tone.

[87:42]Okay, and it's not that

[87:43]we really don't care anymore

[87:44]because it seemed like a good idea.

[87:45]When we were doing like the top 10,

[87:46]we had strong opinions about it,

[87:48]but now that we're doing

[87:49]Damn the Torpedoes,

[87:49]we're kind of like, whatever.

[87:50]That would be a rolling well tone.

[87:53]Okay, what do you think?

[87:54]Rolling bone, rolling groan,

[87:55]or rolling well toned?

[87:57]Aaron, what do you think?

[87:58]I enjoyed listening to it.

[88:00]There's a couple songs

[88:01]I think are really great.

[88:02]For me, I think there's

[88:04]a few things coming up

[88:05]that I like better.

[88:06]So looking at it at the micro level,

[88:08]I like that it's on the list,

[88:10]but I will give it a rolling groan.

[88:11]Russell, what do you think?

[88:15]Rolling well tone?

[88:15]Rolling bone, or rolling groan?

[88:16]I'm a little confused.

[88:18]There's commercial hits on this one.

[88:20]I expected to love it,

[88:22]and I really did enjoy it.

[88:23]I think part of the problem for me

[88:25]is we listened to Wildflowers

[88:26]just a few months ago,

[88:27]and I think Wildflowers

[88:29]is a better out.

[88:30]I shouldn't say far better.

[88:32]I enjoyed Wildflowers more.

[88:33]I felt more of a connection

[88:35]with that one.

[88:36]There's certain songs

[88:37]that just grip you by the heart,

[88:38]and I don't get that from this one.

[88:40]So I'm going to say

[88:41]we've got Metallica,

[88:43]the Black album coming up

[88:44]that's got,

[88:45]Enter Sandman,

[88:46]Sad But True,

[88:46]Unforgiven,

[88:47]Wherever I May Roam,

[88:48]Don't Tread On Me,

[88:49]Nothing Else Matters.

[88:51]I don't think this album

[88:53]is better than that album.

[88:53]I'm going to say it's rolling groan.

[88:55]I liked it,

[88:56]and I think I'm a bit skewed

[88:57]because I liked Wildflowers

[88:58]a few months back so much.

[89:00]Matt, what do you think?

[89:01]Rolling well tone,

[89:02]rolling bone,

[89:02]or rolling groan?

[89:03]I really, really like this album,

[89:06]and we'll listen to it again,

[89:07]things like that,

[89:08]but I don't know if it needs

[89:09]to be on this list, right?

[89:11]I mean, we've talked about

[89:12]how many different albums

[89:14]are not,

[89:15]on the list, right?

[89:16]We talk about

[89:17]Wildflowers,

[89:18]Sixteen Stone,

[89:19]there's just,

[89:20]there are so many albums

[89:22]that could

[89:22]kind of fill in this slot.

[89:24]I think Tom Petty,

[89:25]he's almost

[89:27]Prince-like,

[89:30]where after he died,

[89:31]people started appreciating him

[89:33]a little bit more.

[89:33]You know, that kind of a thing,

[89:35]and he's a wonderful songwriter,

[89:37]all that stuff,

[89:38]so it feels like he should have

[89:39]two or three albums on the list,

[89:40]but I just don't know

[89:41]if this album,

[89:42]I think it's got four

[89:43]commercial hits.

[89:44]It passed

[89:45]as the Russell test

[89:46]of having commercial hits,

[89:47]if that makes sense,

[89:48]but I'll just say

[89:50]Rolling Grown

[89:51]should be lower on the list,

[89:53]if not just,

[89:54]feels like the next time

[89:55]this comes around,

[89:56]10 years,

[89:57]well, actually,

[89:57]more like five years now

[89:58]when they redo the list again,

[90:00]like this one

[90:01]could either go fall way off

[90:03]or just be replaced

[90:04]by other things

[90:05]that are a little bit

[90:06]more timely,

[90:07]so, yeah.

[90:08]I'm going to take a point,

[90:09]the album cover,

[90:10]I don't like the album cover,

[90:12]and that's part of the album

[90:13]to be.

[90:13]Yeah.

[90:14]Yeah.

[90:14]Honor,

[90:15]100%.

[90:16]Man,

[90:16]you talking about them

[90:17]redoing the list

[90:17]does make me think

[90:18]we're real close to that time

[90:19]where like,

[90:19]they might just fuck around

[90:20]and redo the list.

[90:21]Like,

[90:22]it's getting to that time

[90:23]where it's been like

[90:24]a year and a half.

[90:24]There's 2012,

[90:24]and then what was it,

[90:25]2020?

[90:26]Yeah.

[90:26]It's going to happen

[90:29]this year.

[90:29]2027 is probably

[90:31]the first time

[90:32]that they redo it.

[90:32]If I have to review

[90:34]a Jelly Roll album

[90:35]by the end of this,

[90:36]because they decided

[90:37]to put Jelly Roll

[90:38]on the top 500 albums,

[90:39]I'm going to fucking quit.

[90:41]Does he have a whole album?

[90:42]Yeah, yeah.

[90:42]I don't know.

[90:43]I mean,

[90:45]I'm going to fucking quit

[90:46]if that happens.

[90:46]Teddy Swims

[90:47]or something like that.

[90:48]Oh, my God.

[90:49]Listen,

[90:49]unfortunately,

[90:50]you guys were incorrect.

[90:51]Shit.

[90:52]What?

[90:52]This gets a rolling

[90:54]short album.

[90:55]Short album.

[90:56]Yeah, listen,

[90:57]we're men who are busy.

[90:59]And yet,

[91:01]we still got

[91:02]a two-hour episode

[91:03]out of it.

[91:04]Yes.

[91:04]Matt's doing yard stuff.

[91:06]Russell's going out

[91:08]to dinner

[91:08]or going out

[91:08]to a movie

[91:09]or going out

[91:10]to a fun thing

[91:11]that he's doing

[91:11]with his upstairs roommate.

[91:12]Okay.

[91:13]Aaron is,

[91:14]what did I write?

[91:15]Oh, Aaron's out

[91:15]buying a certain kind of fig.

[91:16]We don't have time

[91:18]for all these double albums.

[91:19]All right.

[91:20]We want a nice album.

[91:21]And this is a 36-minute album.

[91:23]It is great.

[91:24]They should all be 36 minutes.

[91:26]It's so good.

[91:27]Thank you, Tom Petty,

[91:29]for an album under 40 minutes.

[91:30]We love you.

[91:31]Next up.

[91:32]Rob, 36 minutes.

[91:35]Could you imagine?

[91:35]Oh, 36 minutes.

[91:37]I can't.

[91:38]My phone gets so hot.

[91:41]You know what I mean?

[91:42]So here's the thing.

[91:45]If you got to plug it in

[91:47]at some point,

[91:48]that's...

[91:48]It's great.

[91:51]He's got to up their game.

[91:52]Honey, I need to buy

[91:54]a longer phone charging card.

[91:55]Can we move that charger

[91:58]over to this side of the bed?

[91:59]Please.

[92:00]Are you sure your headphones

[92:02]aren't going to pair

[92:02]with my phone?

[92:03]Are you sure?

[92:04]This is why I use

[92:06]wired headphones.

[92:06]If she put in her headphones

[92:08]and heard, like,

[92:09]these ugly grandmas

[92:11]want to fuck you,

[92:12]I'd be like,

[92:12]that is...

[92:15]An ad.

[92:16]I am not choosing

[92:17]to watch that.

[92:17]This is personal.

[92:18]It's private.

[92:19]Next up.

[92:20]Now, guys,

[92:20]we're doing ads now, okay?

[92:22]So we're making a little money.

[92:23]This is an ad

[92:24]for a Disney Plus show.

[92:25]Okay.

[92:26]We have an album

[92:27]about the shooting guard

[92:28]that went from Davidson

[92:29]to the Golden State Warriors,

[92:30]but now he wants

[92:31]to fulfill a promise

[92:32]to his daughter

[92:32]that he would play

[92:33]in the NFL for New York.

[92:34]It's Giant Steph.

[92:37]Giant Steph.

[92:39]The big three-point shooter.

[92:41]John Coltrane.

[92:43]Giant Steph.

[92:44]So...

[92:45]You know what the other joke

[92:46]I had written down was?

[92:47]Literally,

[92:48]it had to be a Mongolian.

[92:49]I was like,

[92:50]does anybody know

[92:51]about the Mongolian steps

[92:52]beside me?

[92:53]Hey, I'll tell you what.

[92:55]When I used to live

[92:55]in that yurt,

[92:56]I did a little Mongolian

[92:57]two-step.

[92:57]You guys are like,

[92:58]oh, oh, oh.

[92:59]Rob, maybe you could

[93:00]pull up the song.

[93:01]I was thinking of

[93:02]that Patrick Duffy,

[93:03]Susan Summers comedy,

[93:05]Step by Step.

[93:07]Oh.

[93:07]Russell, that's so good.

[93:10]Well, that's going to have

[93:12]to be the intro song.

[93:13]Oh, shit.

[93:14]Let's see the next one.

[93:14]This is the part of the show

[93:15]where we make jokes

[93:16]about something we talked about.

[93:17]It's called production, Rob.

[93:19]Oh, okay.

[93:19]Hey, Aaron,

[93:22]if it turns out

[93:23]you don't like

[93:25]that Calvin Klein dog name,

[93:27]you could name it

[93:27]Meredith Baxter Blodgett.

[93:29]Oh.

[93:30]What?

[93:32]That's a callback.

[93:36]That's a callback.

[93:37]That's what you call

[93:37]the callback.

[93:38]Production business, Rob.

[93:39]Holy shit.

[93:41]All right.

[93:41]Let's land the plane.

[93:42]Hit that ding.

[93:43]All right.

[93:43]Oh, that's right.

[93:44]That's right.

[93:45]Hey, Aaron.

[93:48]I heard

[93:50]I heard you were

[93:51]hitting off me,

[93:53]but then I realized

[93:53]I misheard.

[93:54]You're not hitting off

[93:57]Mr. Loti.

[93:57]Hey, Dad,

[94:02]this tea is too high.

[94:04]My doctor hasn't said that

[94:06]to me in a long time.

[94:07]You don't have to call him

[94:09]Mr. Loti.

[94:10]Yep.

[94:11]Hey, kids,

[94:13]this is RFK Jr.

[94:14]I'm also a big fan

[94:16]of more tea.

[94:17]More kids should be

[94:20]taking more tea

[94:20]so they look like me.

[94:21]Buff,

[94:22]but in a weird old

[94:23]band sort of way.

[94:24]You get that

[94:25]Elon Musk chest

[94:26]where he looks like

[94:27]a cyber truck,

[94:28]but it's like in skin form.

[94:29]It's so weird.

[94:29]All right.