Mary J Blige: What’s the 411? (1992)

[00:00]all right here we go are you wearing a houston rockets shirt uh no uh russell i could see why you'd think that but it's actually a baywatch tank top so good night they they were they they lost they were they were up like 18 with 11 minutes left and oh the knicks came back and got him tonight i thought you're talking about baywatch oh no i was just trying to impress russell with my nba talk upstairs roommate will be impressed this this will technically qualify as a basketball podcast man while i yeah wow i was trying to stay awake at 9 30 on a saturday

[00:31]night for this flipping podcast i thought i better throw on some nba while i was cleaning the house i'll fire you up okay yeah yeah rob who's your mount who's your mount mount rushmore of of baywatch stars who's on your mount rushmore i'll tell you what of course you gotta say it yasmin bleeth oh i didn't even think about yasmin bleeth to be honest with you i was gonna say number one i think is david hasselhoff i know i'm kind of blowing minds that i'm not saying cj but you gotta give it to the hoff i mean that's where else would you know the hoff from if it

[01:03]wasn't for baywatch right david hasselhoff never on america's got talent unless he's on baywatch i'm gonna say number two of course pamela anderson who yeah i think pamela anderson is probably one of the greatest i was thinking about this the other day like just who in my mind was absolute second to the best and i think that's probably one of the greatest i was thinking about this second to the best and i think that's probably one of the greatest i was thinking about this and it was pamela anderson and then it was uh anna nicole smith i was just thinking about anna nicole smith while i was walking the dog

[01:33]like that was a crazy time in a boy's life where you could just turn on the tv and just see a show about anna nicole smith okay uh i loved and then that was that you know what then you know when that was russell what's that that's back when america was great okay first of all let me tell you i got a snow day coming on monday okay i'm not doing my work i got a snow day coming i can wait you already know you've got one we've got 14 to 20 inches coming matt it's a guarantee it's such a guarantee i didn't do work i should have done today i didn't do it because i know i'm gonna get monday you just

[02:03]got chad gp to do it for you anyway so i well let's have true i like i put it on the line for snow days i'm not talking the talk i'm walking the walk i'm procrastinating praying that a snow day hits let's i'm gonna text i'm gonna text neil from lakeville right now and see if you want some action on the line that rob's got a snow day my god monday i'll tell you what though definitely in like what though man my kids they're talking zoom school instead of a snow day and you know what i'm gonna do i'm calling them sick because

[02:31]zoom snow days are anti-american but but hold on real quick though but isn't it more un-american to then have to do another day at the end of the school year because you missed because no that's why what are you talking about that's what they do so that's why they do no way that's why they do the zoom calls no the public schools do russell yeah the zoom things there's many applications there's a lot of applications there's a lot of applications there's a lot of when they had that strike a couple years ago yeah i mean the the minneapolis public schools went to like june 20th it was ridiculous even better matt because then my kids don't come home

[03:04]early okay keep me at school they could be at school all summer i don't care but it'd be like if donald trump outlawed monster trucks you know what i mean like you couldn't think of anything more un-american in your life all right and that's why i'm calling in my kids sick from zoom's class they will be getting a sick note from me do not have to participate in zoom class dad of the year number one true patriot uh and then i would say of course who's the kid sunny right wasn't sunny the kid

[03:32]on baywatch i always liked him i thought no no let's let's not be silly here you can't pick a kid from baywatch what's the what's the i don't think i don't rush more rob stop okay well yes okay so i was gonna say this is back when america their celebrities were i could see rob you being a fan of the the short-haired lady whatever her name was okay let's go look up the baywatch the baywatch okay i have to admit i don't even really remember and everybody and this is just go click on images above rob everybody knows that we're just trying to start because aaron's not on

[04:04]right now so this is no that's crazy okay let's look we've got wow yasmin bleeth by far wow now what is this who is this old guy up in the upper top that's the that would be that would be your guy rob you are the closest to that guy can you imagine me this guy who looks almost exactly like a tall skinny version of my dad he's like a 53 year old balding man he looks to be fair he's in good shape and everything right guys there are

[04:32]like a hundred casts of baywatch there are so many different well here's one of us just the women tiffany tiffany can we pull up the song wow that's a great idea well let's get started we'll get started with the song was tiffany amber theusen and baywatch i don't remember that and then who's this then we have oh my gosh is that carmen carmen electra carmen electra was on baywatch guys back when celebrities were in playboy okay 89 to 2001 wow wow that's how long ago wow all right

[05:03]here we go okay now this is going to be awkward for aaron to come in right now to see what we're looking at rob has picked his mount rushmore and it excluded his baywatch mount rushmore he's excluded carmen electra and tiffany amber theusen he doesn't think they may guys what are we talking about david hasselhoff look at that how could you not choose him look at how baywatchy he is i don't know if you want to expose your kid to baywatch aaron that's i can tell you right now

[05:33]baywatch baywatch was a real gateway drug for me to making dirty jokes when i was in high school around like my friends parents i would make jokes about baywatch instead of like porno you know what i mean like i've upgraded now when i was a child aaron i talked about childish things now i'm an adult i'm making jokes about porno yeah i'm making jokes about porno i'm making jokes about porno is this who did man look up who did the baywatch oh no it's jimmy jameson 501 of the list guys this jim

[06:07]jameson hit is like wait bop isn't jim jameson the name of the lead singer from my morning jacket in 2020 four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums in a sidebar magazine this resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music excoriated the order and led us to make this podcast we are far from experts who promise to do almost no research all opinions are our own unless you disagree please sit back and enjoy beck did it better

[06:33]nice remember when they did they watch nights you know what i mean it was like it was like listen we don't want to wear swimsuits anymore instead we're going to wear busty cocktail dresses my morning jacket is jim james so very close oh wow and we are up to an album my alexa called what's the 411 oh no i know that's not right because i know this mary j blige album from 1992 1992 is called what's the 41 one this is

[07:01]1992 wow did you aaron you got the wrong number joke there i said what's the 41 one do you think she ever did a collab with some 41 some 41 one you that was my that was my college homework album all killer no filler that's number like five that's like number 503 on list i only know the one hit i've never heard the whole i was uh i've never heard the whole album i've never heard the i was a math major and we had to learn like uh sick brag bro uh we had we had to do proofs and

[07:31]that's when i really started to hate math but i was like i was like three classes away from graduating so i just had to get it done you know kind of thing so i would i i was not a math guy so i just had to like memorize the proofs i just went to the library and just would write them out so i could memorize them can i tell you i just have some 41 on go on my math final i cheated on my math final they had a thing that says a equals b b equals c what about a and c and i looked at my shoes you know what i was wearing

[08:03]converses i was like you buy the tennis shoes we gave you advice on that week ago no no time didn't have any time to get there not that was not on the podcast by the way that was the hour conversation we had post podcast where you guys advised that i buy real shoes and russell tried to get me to buy just normal white shoes and i almost threw no that's not what i tried to get you to buy i just bought a pair of white shoes and i bought a pair of white shoes and i showed you blue and yellow ones rob i was giving you flashy stuff i i don't know i don't know if i could just buy regular tennis again some of those steph curry two lows it's so old listen i've got

[08:35]three guys here by the record steph curry shoes have always been horrible the under armor ones i know he's gone now that's the whole joke that the two the steph curry two lows are the ones that came out before the 2016 finals and that's when that was the beginning of the downfall of that season oh honestly my starberries are doing just fine so i don't know what anybody's complaining thank you okay i've got three guys here who are wondering when we're going to get i was they were

[09:00]wondering when we're going to get to a puff daddy at record okay because the price of baby oils this day is through the roof okay i've got actually it's not no it's not anymore it's come way back it's gone way back down it's true it's like september johnson and johnson's like we're guys what happened if i just stop we've got too much inventory okay don't i sound like a businessman i've got mad in minneapolis man how are you doing uh good rob you were talking about the transitive property there's a lot of transitive property there's a lot of transitive property there that's the transitive property yeah thank you very much i i take the i take the trans every day into work all right i've got russell in minneapolis russell how are you doing rob i

[09:33]still feel the heat when we share each other do you feel the magic wow whoa whoa that reminds me of when i went to a deep last time i felt the magic i went to a movie theater and a guy was sitting next to me next to a bucket with a bucket of popcorn in his lap but he said i own this movie theater and i said oh my god uh then he went around he went around the back for a special move around the outside around the outside i've got and i've got aaron out in california

[10:01]now aaron uh went to a he was telling us he went to a restaurant really recently and uh uh uh the waiter came up and he said you know can i ask about the menu please and the waiter said well it's none of your business who i sleep with the venue please uh aaron in california how are you doing i did go to a restaurant recently i went to one called belly what's the what's the menu what's the over uh what's the probability that mary j blige had a song on the belly soundtrack what is this podcast what the fuck are you talking about she has a song in the belly

[10:35]soundtrack yes or no the belly soundtrack yeah i've never seen belly i've not seen it but it's a it's a movie that had a lot of r&b songs on the soundtrack wow wow russell what's on the belly soundtrack what's going on what's going on because i've only been there since it was it wasn't they weren't they going to be on bay anymore now it's called new belly russell are you i thought you were looking up the belly soundtrack you look to your left okay let's look up the belly soundtrack

[11:02]to see oh my god this is a bop okay you're not you're not lying i'm telling you that's where i think that's where i think i heard devil's pie for the first time okay angelo devil's pie yeah we've got some dmx on there we've got ja rule jz wow ghostface killer all right so i guess it's a would have been wrong mary j does not have a song on the belly soundtrack wow and you know what that's a great uh that's a great uh segue let's get slowly came to see all the things that you

[11:34]were made of let's talk about mj blige what's the 41 one aaron can i just put a public service announcement out there yeah we desperately need voicemails please send us a voicemails we are we are dry as a bone out here okay it's tough to get a voicemail in these streets send one right now aaron you're welcome aaron you want to know what rob's really made of also yeah lips and assholes wow you know what what okay wait aaron's put his lips up to the screen wait a second

[12:06]okay give me one second yeah okay luckily i'm just wearing sweatpants oh uh listen let's get into the voicemail this is from a longtime listener magic mike let matt know that i also share his opinion of pavement i feel like they are entirely overrated and every time critics cream all over themselves when they talk about the band i just don't get it

[12:30]they had a bit of a feud with the smashing pumpkins back then calling them too commercial but i would rather listen to siamese dream any day of the week that album is a masterpiece and if billy corgan wasn't such a loudmouth prick it would probably be higher on the list having said all that i do have one pavement song that's near and dear it's from the no alternative compilation called unseen power of the picket fence it describes their love of the band rem and specifically their second album reckoning which is a great album and i love when a band's name checked their influences

[13:02]by the way matt would probably love that whole compilation one of the best from that era it had most of the 90s alternative heavyweights including nirvana with an unlisted secret song at the end but i digress well here i gotta i gotta see this i gotta hear this pavement song if he says it's good enough oh my god we should have done this voicemail next week with velvet underground just got it all out of the way at once i do have to admit i do love when a band sings about how much they love another band

[13:40]you know what i mean in place from singing about alex chilton i do get a kick out of that what do you want to see matt you want to see the compilation this is on yeah just what what else is on that if you go back and click on that uh but no alternative track listing i don't know if i have spotify oh yeah here we go uh sexual healing by soul asylum that's a great

[14:00]play it it's great great cover really their live version of that they did at a prom in grand forks north dakota is even better aaron's got hold on what the fuck are you talking about sarah mclaughlin there was a prom and grand forks i think it's going for somewhere in north dakota there was a prom that was flooded out and then when they had to reschedule their prom soul asylum played the

[14:30]prom and they made a live album of it i think it's called after the flood how long is that how long is that prom like 30 minutes i mean there's a lot of covers they did rhinestone cowboy they did sexual healing all right all right baby you know how i know this is a good this is a good compilation man for you almost every song in here is blurred out on spotify you cannot play it but there is a there's patty smith on here there's nirvana well i saw this again got sarah mclaughlin let's hold on by sarah mclaughlin do we know that one i clicked on sarah mclaughlin's name

[15:01]why this makes no sense now we're not a sarah mclaughlin rabbit hole no now i now i click the wrong thing again don't pull up why are you pulling up pictures of dogs don't pull up pictures do it not tonight i don't know what yeah yeah i'll have to look i'll just listen anything magic mike 69 recommends i'm listening to that guy knows his music any any type of 69 he's recommending is fine yeah that's how i ended up at that sex

[15:32]party out at the ranch okay let's get right into rolling going i'm still not totally clear what did he did so i'm not i have i have not watched any documentaries what i haven't done any of this stuff uh i mean human trafficking i guess is one i mean let's this is not a segment killing peggy or killing uh wow shooting tupac wow did he buy girl scale cookies from rob basically stealing every art one of his artists every last

[16:04]dollar they had wow he's kind of the reason craig max broke like terrible person terrible terrible that's so strange that somebody in the music business would turn out to be a terrible person i can't believe that that's so strange listen rolling going on that though he's like into the realm of like presidents and other people of that ilk aaron rolling going how's it going with you before we spiral off into all the bad people before we get yeah i mean i'm having good vibes today i got a lot of good feelings today you ever those

[16:32]days where you're just like you're just like so proud of somebody for like they had a day that was lined up that you thought like this is gonna be a big long day and then they just crushed it that was wallace today man he oh i thought you're talking about your wife there i was like i was like this is kind of condescending to wait she crushed it today too man she was uh she got i got up and went to the ymca today i'm a y member now you guys wow the y is very nice howard like the gym at the oakland y super nice um that's a whole different thing though my jump

[17:00]shot is so broken that like it's a bad scene um like i hit a guy in the head with an airball today and it knocked his airpods out you're like the guy joe wolf who got yelled at by durant the other day or you're the guy you break it so bad people are annoyed with you yeah no totally but i try i was like i was trying to back off and the guy was like no no keep shooting so shout out to that guy for being nice and patient with me and uh always good always good to get that word isn't it just to keep firing from your teammates because it's just it does make you feel good yeah it wasn't even a game we were just shooting around but what was weird was that

[17:32]the oh no the gym was kind of mostly closed off for like uh kids youth basketball so there was only like one hoop open and there were multiple sets of people where one guy was rebounding for another guy standing underneath the hoop and that's intimidating to me as a guy whose jump just like still wildly erratic so like sometimes i'll lace three or four in a row sometimes something crazy happens i don't know what's going on with me and like there's a guy standing under the hoop who's gonna get drilled by a shot and he doesn't care he's like go ahead keep shooting and

[18:01]like we're at the y everybody pay the membership to be there it's fine but man it messes me up i had a tough time with that this morning let me ask you this yeah would you be against going on like fiverr and hiring a jump shot coach like going finding a jump shot coach and having them hold you've got more money than time i'm thinking about this very strongly yeah i need i need somebody to yeah i'm following lethal shooter on instagram trying to figure out if he is ever in the bay area like could i pay him for a couple hours yes i need some help yes aaron you just need some coaching

[18:33]just to give you the confidence just to have somebody tell you keep firing that's what i think we can all use that in our lives right we should all be getting private coaching in something we should all be having a coach in some way yeah that well that's the the next thing i did was go try to do a couple power cleans and i was like well now i need a coach for power cleans so i got the whole thing i gotta need the whole thing but anyway while i was doing that and i took wallace out for a hike they crushed it on a hike and then he came home and he had like 30 minutes to take a break and eat some lunch and then there was a baseball clinic this afternoon

[19:01]that was run uh by mlb it's their it's called loyal to the soil it was a three hour like they kept the kids moving it was really fun because they did a lot of like baseball adjacent stuff that wasn't just strictly like hardcore baseballs it was like they were trying to catch tennis balls and they were like playing some kickball on the bases and it was very cool but he didn't sit down for three hours chewing tobacco chewing tobacco like you know like folks this we're going to give you the the the the cherry flavored okay you're not quite ready for the regular school we're going

[19:34]to build you up to that scanning the crowd for a slump buster you know and you got to know you got to be a mark grace fan to know what i'm talking about and then he came home lying on your birth certificate 101 he came home and he had some there were some friends here at the house they hung out legos for like an hour and then we went straight over to school and played some soccer at school the boy crushed it i was really proud of him so it was a big day and then things i'm rolling going i'm on a high it was a good day so i'm wondering how it's really going with russell aaron can i

[20:00]ask you this would you think about going to that baseball camp with headphones on your head and a hat and sit right to the side and if a ball came over you would reach over and grab it would that be kind of a fun cosplay if anybody got that well yeah i think that'd be great i should have done it parents you're not even allowed on the turf it was amazing it was like you can sit around and watch if you want but you're not even allowed out here so it's great like i love it yeah fully stadium yeah it's terrific off the grass how's it rolling going with russell rolling going things

[20:37]are going good rob could you pull up a song yes bring him home are we going back to les mis we're going back i told you guys last week i was going to les mis and i went last night at the orpheum i went suddenly last night went wow we did our typical we love to go to the butcher tail get something to eat get a drink before the show we walk over the show this is the first time i've had a show they send you a voicemail before the show saying

[21:07]you have to be in your seat by 7 30 if you're not you will have to wait outside until the first first 20 minutes so you cannot just walk in there's like a a lumbering in of people and they're like oh my god i'm going to go to the orpheum i'm going to go to the orpheum people about 25 30 minutes in when they'll let people in but they will not just let people filter in at the beginning what are your guys thoughts on the voicemail warning you i thought it was great because i'm typically one who comes right up to about the point of being late yep but

[21:34]if i get if i get a voicemail like that i feel like so we got there 30 minutes early what do you guys think about the voicemail warning about not getting in if you're late i think if they gave you the warning that's all you can do i mean is is a voicemail necessary like that's what i thought 2026 like just one show up on time but two just send a freaking text message so they have to go listen to it listen to a but the voicemail was different

[22:00]if i just got some email to my hotmail account or something i'm not reading that i can even send a text message they've got your phone number clearly right i'll ignore the text though the voicemail i listen to it well i i just i would ignore the voicemail because i only listen to text russell this is text evidence this is evidence that you can show a partner and say hey i'm not fucking around it's got to get there on time okay i know you're going to come up with something to some reason that we can't get

[22:30]there as early as i want to and right now we've got a voicemail you know it's going to stress me out we have to get there on time a hundred percent and i can tell you as somebody who goes to i mean i was at broadway on friday i don't even want to brag but i was there people coming into the spot what's that the pizza spot rob no it was actually it was a show that likes that joke i can see that's a good one that was a joke for one person maybe on this podcast if you pay attention and russell when they come in with the flashlights and they're pointing all around it's so distracting oh it is distracting you are right

[23:04]rob no yeah people standing up and they're going halfway they're going in the wrong they're going in the wrong road we had a wrong rower in front of us with the flashlights you're you're you gotta be you're in seat seven or there they need to go to seat seven and eight right but instead of going to number one they go to where the side's 25 so then they gotta go i got an idea if you're in row a don't go in the second row go in the first fucking row right like don't don't walk down the second row if you're in row a it's kind of straight straight you understand the alphabet or not

[23:34]you should be talking to raymond back behind us because you need to see an usher get this shit figured out that's pretty good i didn't hear any of what you guys are talking about because i was listening to cole wilkinson but i heard your russia raymond joke good so i did have some feedback on my experience uh lay miss please i think you bought a ticket you can share your feedback the music was fantastic the songs that this are are an a plus heard it here first good musical wow fantastic musical however i have some thoughts okay i'm here for it we gotta change

[24:08]the way we're doing musicals like major league baseball has fixed how they do baseball like they don't do three and a half hour games anymore like everything else has adjusted like a movie theater they're gonna tell you there's 30 minutes of preview so you can kind of show up a little late and so the first act there's an intermission like there typically is is an hour and a half and you hit about the 50 minute mark and you're like i gotta get the fuck

[24:35]out of here like this is your legs start to feel kind of twitchy right you're like aaron you're right and this is one of my points when you go to theaters they're not built for me and rob and they're not built for people that are like six feet or taller for some of us on the podcast like your knees are up in your in your chest the whole time it's just an incredibly uncomfortable experience at old theaters it's not like going to if you go to target field you've got a little space to move

[25:02]your legs and stuff you are jammed in that seat and you are stuck for an hour and a half with nowhere to move we gotta change those things were built in the 1910s they gotta change it they gotta change it it's not it's not good enough anymore russell can i tell you the show i saw on friday you know what kind of broadway show do i go see it's the only kind i will go see it's a comedy because guess what they're short 80 minutes no intermission i was home by 9 30 you know what i

[25:30]mean like it was crazy show started at 8 i was home by 9 30 brilliant i love it it's the only other type of entertainment where you've got to be silent the whole time you're not you're not allowed to like you're not allowed to like a little nudge or something gives you the nudge your neighbor next you can say hey that was a great song you got to be silent the whole time it's dark the whole time you're not like if you go to a twins game aaron you can pull out your phone you can look at your phone you can't do any this is the one place in life and i gotta say i do appreciate that where there's no phones for like three hours other than the intermission like no

[26:01]one has their you can't have your phone out right but why why do musicals have to be so precious that we have to decide there's no vendors why why can't we have vendors coming around why can't like why why is this like this no other form of entertainment is like that right like if you go to a football game it's not like that why does it got to be like that and i think i i could be wrong i feel like that's something golly i'm i'm losing track of my musical education i think that's the

[26:31]sort of thing that we learned in music history was that like shakespearean plays and operas were not always a place to be silent like it was understood that it was long and people would get up and move around and might talk like it was i don't think it was always intended to be that and i think it evolved into that because it's you know mostly a place that are frequented by old folks and it's become this sacred place i don't think it has to be that way and i think it would be a great show if it if like rob said if it's an 80 minute show and it's silence it's no phones it's no

[27:03]there's no talking that's great but when you're in when you're at 90 minutes before intermission and then another hour after it just feels like it's just not a sustainable system anymore what do you guys think so what is your solution russell is that you have you it's a baseball game it's the like you can watch the show if you want you don't have to watch it's a concert so you can be into it like why is it different than going to a green day concert someone tell me why so you think it's going to

[27:34]be like this as for the rest right all of them crooks hot dogs yes what do you want you know i i kind of got in late to the office today because i was just hung over a oh my god i tell you that new place over there off nickelodeon just south of night street balloons yeah yep right around the corner from wcc they got the thing up on the

[28:05]because the weather's bad things like that selling a little red come on you can't have people talking during the show i think the idea to watch the show but i think the idea is that there are places built in and they're not going to be able to see you because they're not going to see you because they're not going to be able to see you because they're not going to be able to see you because they're not going to be able to see you because they're not going to be able to see you and i think that's the thing that's in where this could be happening i think there's wow there are stretches i used to go to catholics i used to be a catholic recovering catholic i don't know about you i went to catholic school 271 and we're just finding out man went to catholic school this is crazy yeah so but you'd go to church and then in the back of the church there was always they called it the cry room for the kids you know because they brought your kids to school and they just had it blocked up so russell needs a cry room at the uh

[28:46]at the theater so he can just hang out and do whatever back there and not feel like he's disrupting mass russell what if i said i could meet you halfway smoking cigarettes people can smoke cigarettes in the theater now it's the one place they can smoke inside you know what maybe rob it

[29:02]maybe i can deal with it all if they read it all the seats and these seats weren't from as matt said like the 1930s or something reclining seats reclining make make it an enjoyable experience not a painful experience to be there because it's too long to be like where you literally are unable to move your legs at all because you're just stuck in this one little spot it's too much the other thing i would say can i can i give uh all of our listeners like the text chain guys that i feel like would make this

[29:33]mistake what's the number one tip i would give people on going to a musical you got to read the plot before you go to this shit wow if you go to les mis it's like oh there's this guy and like i this this daughter from these people and he's going to raise him and it's his daughter and then there's a revolution and you're like wait why is there a revolution but then the guy's like sneaking around and changing his costume and it is i read the plot afterwards i'm like i probably

[30:01]got about 40 of that but if you just go into that for the first time you have no fucking idea what's going on they they gotta they should give they should give people a primer when you walk in before they shut the lights down everything this is where my hot dogs are coming out they're they're giving us a uh uh two and a half minute here's the story of what we're trying to tell you because no one understands what's going on what theater did you go to the orpheum matt the orpheum in minneapolis wow orpheus i believe that's off like hennepin and probably ninth wow yeah that's so sick

[30:35]let me tell you what oh go ahead man sorry no i was just gonna say my well i don't want to interrupt you but but what what i think you need to do russell is forget the first the first level just forget the first level don't buy a ticket down there at all and you got to go for the balcony and you got to go for row three of the balcony which is right next and then right next to the aisle that'd be real so that you can if you

[31:00]need to get up if you need to get up you can get up just walk around walk right out back there's the bathrooms right out there the concession stands right out there and come right back in without disrupting anybody so we i've got you for most of this matt because i always when we go to these just in case the upstairs roommate or i need to get out it's easy we don't ruin anyone's show we should we wrote we went row d we should have gone row e which was the last row of the first part of the balcony okay so then you would have been no one behind you then you just walk up and

[31:30]get right out boom but here's the big mistake if you were down on the floor there's a little more leg room down on the floor you can kind of put your legs out a little bit stick your legs under those chairs and it it gets steeper and when you're in the balcony matt it is very steep there is no leg room for for us that are above like the five five nine mark yeah that's where i love ideal spot or for a comedian or any show a concert at that place i love the first row of the balcony i try to get that because

[32:04]i you can see down nobody's in front of you all this it's it's my ideal spot at that place to watch it but i certainly understand i'm a short guy so i don't have the uh issue with the knees bumping to the seat in front of me so i will say though i came away from it there was a lot of frustrating there there was a point in the first and this is it's all dark you can't look at your program to see how many songs are coming up next and this is you live if you don't know the show you're sitting there wondering wait is this the last song before intermission and then you're

[32:34]like oh no there's another like 30 there's seven more songs before intermission yeah and that's that's a tough pill to swallow sometimes russell let me give you my theater rule bring it okay reprise is no prize reprise is illegal no prize you sang the song once you don't get to sing it again you know what i mean like if i go to a concert and they sing a different version of the same song i'd be fucking pissed as hell you think you think for sure that's leading into intermission

[33:00]when they reprise you yeah and then it doesn't and and and andrew lloyd weber loves the fucking reprise he comes and hits you with a repeat he's a reprise fighter he's like apollo creed out there he hits you with it again and again little you know it's and just stop okay let's just move on and i have to say russell i was back row balcony for this show 80 minutes i thought my knee was gonna explode explode halfway through i was like i need to move this knee and i have no option because i can't stand up i can't go anywhere i just back

[33:30]row why couldn't you stand up yeah maybe i was the second to back row i can't remember yeah but but also when i when i stand up man it's like i'm moving side to side oh jenny would be mad old theater's rumbling but either way i gotta say the music is fantastic i don't know how long this has this been around for like 30 40 years or something i don't even know how long but i can see why it's fantastic i would go see it again in a heartbeat i just wish it was a little bit more of an accommodating and pleasurable experience from the viewer's perspective is

[34:00]that fair it's fair they should have an option where it's like you know you go see movies and it's like kids time where you can bring your kids and have the lights on they should have russell time at the theater where you go and there's guys serving hot dogs they've got the candy out there people are moving their straws to the drink 50 50 raffle yep at 50 out of 50 50 raffle chuck a puck you know what i mean who's gonna get their puck closest to the flag on the wall you know what i mean like this is great i love it magic mike has no effing idea what chuck a puck is he's like what

[34:31]the hell is chuck and russell at the beginning somebody comes out and goes real quick here's the plot we're just going to tell you what happens i think it would you know what for the people that don't want to hear they already they're smart enough to know it from listening to people singing i don't have to listen they can yeah they can order their hot dog right now they can make that's right um i gotta be honest i can we can we go a little more in depth on chuck a puck i'm not totally oh boy wow okay so aaron picture this yep it's the intermission at a high school hockey

[35:01]game i'm ready okay there's nothing else to do in this small town your knees out it's gonna except for drinking at the bar before you go back to a high school event which was always a little awkward as a teacher but you did it anyway so now wait people went to the bar between periods no but no before the game oh yeah okay yeah and then you would buy pucks for like a dollar and the and then you would have the number they all have numbers they all have numbers so like they know mr that mr rob has oh that was a close one but i didn't let it slip okay that he has

[35:33]numbers one through five that's my daddy then rob's partner takes all those pucks because she loved chuck a puck more than anybody else and you could throw it and the closest to the center face half the money and the other announcer guy the announcer guy would say all right get ready for chuck a puck yeah okay you know on the count of three everybody chuck your pucks you know kind of a thing and then one two three and then everybody's throwing them over the over the glass and you know there's probably 100 to 200 pucks just flying and it was ever close and it's

[36:00]like uh it's like uh what do you call it yeah and i'm touching it with my finger right when i let it go it's no big deal uh thank you thanks for taking me down that trip down memory lane hey rob did you touch it twice no fuck off fuck off what a big surprise that canadian curlers are quick to anger i can i can hardly believe it uh the key was aaron is that you wanted to throw the puck as late as you could because then you got all the attention to get bumped out if your puck was getting close

[36:32]the whole crowd would go crazy but the problem is if you threw too late there was many obstacles in your way yeah so you had to kind of too early somebody could bump you out of there just like in curling you had to be smart you had to be smart and you could throw us from anywhere like wherever you were sitting you could just chuck the puck yeah well you would go towards center ice because of course that was the shortest but if you wanted to really be baller sometimes you'd try to get right by the fence you know behind it yep that's it well i'm going to check my puck to matt rolling going how's it going with you well i think i've got both of you guys just put your

[37:01]guys things right together i've got one i'm proud of a kid for what he did today and two i've got the perfect place for you russell to go see a show love it and that is middle school plays to go to the middle school plays awesome that is perfect um so my kid leo they he's been a theater kid since sixth grade he's now in eighth grade so that's the top of middle school around here and they were doing shrek jr this year and he was shrek so he was shrek and shrek jr

[37:36]that's right and so this kid was up there singing the solos he was you know they they they kind of they almost did the uh whatever the the kiss or whatever but they just put a big cardboard in front of it so love it we were joking at dinner that oh we almost got to see leo's first kiss kind of thing so it's very funny long story but russell lots of room mostly parents mostly

[38:00]kids yeah you know there's a little bit of room yeah i think it was i think it was 65 minutes total you know nobody cared it was great it was good entertainment all that stuff the songs are great you're watching all these kids you're like holy cow how the hell are they doing this so so you might need to go you might just need to check out you know screw going down to the orpheum and seeing all those career professionals who are at the top of their game you might need to go check out a middle school play sometime and see how you feel about that as somebody who has literally seen hundreds of middle school plays throughout

[38:33]my years i can tell you that you are always impressed with how good they are yeah it's crazy especially if you know the kids you're like this kid barely understands mitosis they can't possibly be good in a play what do you think about that i think it's a great idea i think it's a great idea what do you did you go what do you do what's your post game celebration do you bring flowers do you bring pokemon cards did you go out for dinner what's the yeah what's the right question well so i mean the it's it's a weird age for kids right because they're kind of you know they're this is a big deal and they got all their friends and they're almost more want to talk to their

[39:02]friends more than anything so yeah right yeah you start to move past a little bit and it's a big accomplishment right yeah sure it's kind of uh yeah it's it's a big deal so i think it's a big deal so we brought flowers i should say sarah brought flowers i didn't i didn't buy the flowers sarah brought flowers things like that but then this was the the last show so they were having a they're having a party afterwards and stuff so so do you have to sit and hold the flowers for the whole show i'll be just put them in a we got a bag russell can i tell you as somebody who's brought

[39:32]many flowers oh you're you're bringing those flowers out during intermission oh because you look like the best parent in the whole world oh did you not oh excuse me you didn't bring flowers your kids in the world oh excuse me you didn't bring flowers you didn't bring flowers your kids in the play right i mean i thought i don't i just brought flowers i thought my kid would like it i don't know kind of a big moment last show and everything no big deal it's the ultimate flex russell so they went they he they he was getting ready he just wanted to go hang out with his buddies and there was an after show party you know for this one kind of a deal so it was this the only the just the awkward thing all these parents kept coming up to to me and say oh

[40:04]congratulations congratulations you know what i mean i'm like what you know like it wasn't me man i i would tell you there is no way like that's all like and i know what they were saying they were just trying to be nice and it's all fun yeah i was thinking there is no i mean they did they did the play in front of the whole middle school i think the whole middle if not he's just great i think it was the whole middle school on thursday as kind of like a run-through kind of a thing so he's up there doing soul i mean all these kids are doing like yeah solo singing in front of the entire school i would never do

[40:35]that i would never do that not one i there's not one ounce of me that would say that'd be a good idea to go and say i would never do that i would never do that i would never do that i would never sing in front of the entire middle school matt did it get a little did it get a little dusty in there when you were watching or not no it was it was all right you didn't have a tear up or anything when he was crushing the stage no it's it's it's it sounds weird it sounds weird but you know we've been we've been doing this for like three months right sarah is great with uh you

[41:04]know running lines and all this stuff and there was time or her yeah he's not there's no way he he is so far behind how are we going to get through this this stuff so sarah ran through it one time the kid had memorized and like you know once and one and a half times through the whole thing so i don't know he's probably built for the for the theater they come up to matt oh congratulations and matt's like thank you matt the real question did he mention our podcast at the end when he was doing taking bows listen to my dad's podcast

[41:35]wow he did not don't you think shrek could wear this shirt yeah wouldn't this be a cool shirt for shrek to wear great shirt yeah rob rolling that's cool to hear i'm using chat gbt to tell me what to order at restaurants i'm doing it almost i'm doing it almost a hundred percent of the time you've jumped the show you've jumped rob is like

[42:00]a tech simp is that the word the simp rob is that what you called that rob you're a human don't you know what you like to eat in your own human body no i love it i can't get enough and i have to say it started listen it started so simply innocently i'm in france i've got a big wine list yeah how did it end up with all this piss okay which is the alternate version of that song you don't hear very much but uh they played at my prom uh the uh the thing is is that i would take a picture of a

[42:30]wine list in france and say this is what i'm having what wine would go well you know hey that that's fair yeah okay then jenny and i the other night went out to an italian place i don't get a lot of food okay do i know i do i know i probably want some bottle of red yeah i took a picture and i said listen here's the restaurant i said oh that's a roman place you want to get the risotto croquettes and guess what i fucking ordered the risotto croquettes and guess what deep fried pasta it's actually pretty fucking good italians you figured that shit out did you get artichokes or

[43:02]gnocchi no no it wasn't artichokes it wasn't that roman we were looking for the artichokes suggested artichokes like that would put them on a business they'd be at the back of the line of the ai world i'm telling you it said get the cacao the pepe or whatever the and of course it's a classic but it was like if you want to see if it's a good place this is what you order i'm telling you guys i make so many decisions every day okay i'm kind of like a leader among men if you really think about it you need something to be taken off your plate leaders usually make their own decisions though guess what i did it's right there in the

[43:34]name let me argue with you this the next night we went to an omakase sushi where they just make a one piece of sushi and they just make a one piece of sushi and they just make a one piece of sushi they put it in front of you wait yeah omakase means chef's choice or whatever like it means take it like as yeah you're already letting the chef guess what you don't need chat for that no i no i didn't use it there's a human making those choices for you a professional can i ask a real question i didn't get it there i did you my point is did you go over like your

[44:00]chat gpt you know how they're like if you don't have an account there's a limit on how many questions you like did you go over your limit is that why we didn't have a a parody song today i don't want to talk about this anymore okay you're telling me we don't have a parody song no i have the parody song has never been written by chat gpt and you guys need to fuck off about that i've heard i've heard differently that many of them were you have looked up you know what rhymes with baywatch and things like that not so

[44:30]no i do have a chat gpt account it's true and i feel awful about it it's the worst people in the world running this stuff okay and i am giving them money it makes me sick but i'm telling you when i restaurant just take up and here's the thing i just take a picture of the menu and it makes a decision for me i love it it's like i'm having an omakase every single day is there no one at the restaurant you could ask for recommendations they pay staff to be there to help you with that sorry matt yeah but what if they like bullshit or they're trying to sell me something they're

[45:00]trying to sell the shit that's been in that yeah back freezer for a month the problem is is like you can ask but what is chat they don't know anything about that restaurant at all unless they're looking at reviews so you have to check did they just give you whatever the first one was on the list no it said this is i this is the restaurant because they could see it on the menu it's a roman restaurant that's what you need to get listen llms are not looking up anything they're generating text it's just generating text it's not looking anything up it's just creating tokens based on the previous token aaron it's solved more issues

[45:32]in my marriage than anybody else including me okay it's it saved me a lot of time i will say i recently replaced a a wireless doorbell at my mom's apartment would not have been able to do it without nice gpd it would have not happened okay guys i'm telling you just once when you're at a restaurant just take a picture of the menu run it through and then just order what it says it's very satisfying it's disgusting it's sick i know it but it's very very satisfying it has

[46:05]been awkward that i've ordered beef tongue at like the last eight places that's the problem you're on chat aaron you're on chat or you're just getting the shittiest recommendations you know what i mean like you're getting the wildest recommendations yeah and listen it's time for nobody's favorite maybe you should ask it next time what would aaron order at this restaurant then we'll know if it's just typing stuff out or if it knows actually listening to us listen

[46:33]we are talking we are sitting here and we are talking about mary j blige what's the 411 it's a 1992 stone cold classic now we have covered a mary j blige and that's the bottom line said so i don't remember what's the one we did cover i do not recall my life which is her album after this okay right and we covered that and this is so here's the thing this is the album

[47:04]that started hip-hop soul okay hip-hop soul is what we're going to be talking about today uh at that point we've got a split between r&b and hip-hop right we've got r&b in the early 90s we've got like whitney houston anita baker luther vandross where they are singing and they are gorgeous great driving music and it is produced like crazy but the thing is is that the music is made to be very palatable they want everybody to be able to listen to this music meanwhile

[47:33]it's definitely it's definitely church adjacent like you can go to church and still listen to anita baker and be fine hip-hop is the exact opposite right all of a sudden in the 90s we've got public enemy we've got nwa we've got rakim krs1 being super political and street oriented and everybody running a radio station said oh this is a fad i don't know if it's going to be a big deal and all of a sudden right things change a little bit in the 1980s where all of a sudden we get something called

[48:01]new jack swing and it's going to lead into our into uh hip-hop soul and i'm going to take you guys on a little trip down memory lane and i'm going to give you the history of hip-hop soul tonight's list and i realized i didn't even look for a back connection so that's what i did didn't even try on this list first off in 1988 what do you get when you take uh hip-hop drum beats and you put it with somebody singing over the top of it

[48:33]well that's exactly what uh teddy riley boy is apple valley about 1989 the bad boys with new jack swing this is bobby brown don't be cruel the king of r&b so again we've got these hip-hop drums right with an r&b voice over the top yeah and now all of a sudden we're going to take that we're going to go a year later we're going to go to minneapolis and all of a sudden

[49:03]we're going to put some political meaning behind this janet jackson rhythm nation okay we've got the singing over the heavy heavy drums jimmy james terry lewis right after this we got 1992 with uh i mean really it's uh uh mary j blige is like the person who really started this but listen to this after mary j blige in 1992

[49:31]right this is going to continue more females singing over the drum beats with creep tlc always the same stuff though that drum machine that aaron hates so much in the background can't hate this song four years later 1998 we have what many people consider maybe the top of uh hip-hop didn't uh didn't silk pajamas like quadruple in sales after that album came out

[50:05]they should have i can tell you in my mind they did quadruple seems like a low number every woman i knew at school was wearing hip-hop pajamas from about 1994 okay in my mind palace but only buttoned partially yeah yeah my mind palace only had basements it would go from one basement to another basement to another basement and all the stairs are squeaky so you could hear if somebody was coming downstairs uh in 1998 we have lauren hill even more beautiful soul singing with that r&b

[50:39]i'm sorry that the hip-hop background i mean aaron what do you think am i on the right track i love it i'm just i'm just enjoying these are great tracks so now where does this take us where does uh where does uh mary j blige take us now into more modern times well some people would argue 2003 when does uh hip-hop

[51:01]soul become global okay okay crazy in love we're combining this so much jay-z has a verse on the song we've got the horns in the background just like an r&b track now they have babies together the whole thing i mean truly aaron this is a herstory of i love r&b of hip-hop soul yeah rob and then russell you're probably saying well this this kind of music doesn't affect us anymore in the 2020s does it got to well i would argue for my last song on the list sizza with kill bill

[51:35]from 2022 oh oh oh oh still that drum beat in the back but now it's all kind of infused like it doesn't even sound strange being together anymore and that helps us track the path of a little something called hip-hop soul nice which mary j blige is the queen of nice list also thank you

[52:03]this is a nice one to finish with because this has been so many nice collabs with kendrick and mary j had a nice you know back and forth with method man so it's a it's a cool little like update of of some history very cool mary j blige born in 1971 at 18 she goes to the mall we talked about this last time we talked about her the mall she goes to the mall are you going to the mall spencer's gifts where she goes to damn it russell where she goes to spencer's gifts

[52:33]okay she gets a shirt that says what does the shirt say i can't remember orange julius she gets an orange julius uh can we uh can we uh stop at the cinnabon over there on the other side of the escalator oh my god hey should we uh stop at the place that just serves uh uh potato soup and a bread bowl and eat that during the school day yeah we should because that's what robby the mall all the time i can't believe i'm overweight that's a lot of starch on starch what's the

[53:00]chinese restaurant at the panda what's the what's the panda express have you ever been i've never been to a panda express my life yeah of course but i bet it's got to be a amazing it's got to be so good russell you're looking at a guy that often often would think of sabaro's as really the height of pizza they gotta bring that shit back oh the slices were so long russell when i got a sabaro slice i was like god damn this is a long slice man i can't remember that but wasn't there a sabaro when we were on our miracle mile track following joe from east st paul i feel like i saw a sabaro somewhere in there

[53:32]in las vegas guys you can get your own fucking podcast and talk about your sabaro memories right now we're talking about rob and ice sabaro memories yeah i would like to actually talk about that's a real new york slice there there can i tell you there is nothing in life as sweet as going to the mall and your friend who works at baskin robbins is working there oh holy shit i'll tell you what the sample spoons

[54:00]have never been so loaded with so many delicious flavors okay you want to see a guy put anything in a blender and blend it up my friend was the place for you where are you going to a mall like you walk into a mall today where's the where you go like give me the three places you're going oh i'm sitting on a bench and letting my kids walk around i'm not doing what am i okay you know what i'll do here's what i'll do i'm going to the video game store i'm gonna play a couple video games by james store yep no not the games by james i'm not gonna play it i've been doing banana grams yeah i'm like

[54:30]off to i'll tell you when i was younger it was like a toys r us i'd head into a radio shack toys that's not in a mall that's like a strip center that's different well that's that's like a that's big box that's not a ball well okay okay i'm going okay russell you want to hear it i'm going by the victoria's secret okay i'm going by the victoria's secret i'm trying to look forward but yeah with my eyes i'm looking sideways okay and they're like this kid keeps walking by this kid's walked by 50 times in the last hour what's he doing what are you doing at

[55:02]the mall russell what's your all-time mall memory i if i were to like i haven't been to the mall of america in probably five years if i were to go i would go find the college store like the college sports store where you can get like like man i really need a clemson double weave reverse weave sweatshirt and you're gonna find it at the car i'm gonna i'm gonna go to the college store and get some sort of like some college sports gear if you want to go to a top i would say the top two loudest bathrooms ever to exist would be the minneapolis airport

[55:31]and number two close behind is the mall of america if you are in the bathroom of the mall of america you are hearing plate toilets get absolutely destroyed in there oh you know what i mean like somebody has eaten a giant cookie somebody they are not eating right they are eating some funked up food and they are in that bath because if you're in the bathroom going number two at the mall of america you need it real bad aaron what's your all-time bad bathrooms do you think where do you not want to be in the bathroom uh well the oakland ymca was a little bit rough i'll be honest we we did go swimming on monday when wallace said the day off he was like i want

[56:03]to take a shower here i don't want to take a shower at home i was like well i forgot a towel yeah so we can't but i want to take a shower here and he like immediately opened the shower still he's like nope i want to shower at home wow change my mind that's too bad matt real question right real quick is the bathroom we're talking about at the mall of america by the sunglass hut or is it further down what's further down there are two bathrooms on that back wall once you walk

[56:32]in i don't know if it's further down i don't know if it's further down i don't know if it's further down i don't know if it's right by the print store is it by the print store the sunglasses hut well i always park on the third level east side and i'm trying to remember what i think it's i think i think it's an anti-ans i think there's an anti-ans right there when you walk in so that's the one i always walk into i think it's the florida ramp the florida ramp i don't know oh wait no what are you talking about you're talking about the mall of america matt we're talking about the airport where the guy got jacked off oh yeah i'm talking about i'm talking about

[57:03]craig matt's thinking about a time he had at the mall of america growing up yeah no it's across from the sun the not is it the sunglass it's next to the sunglass hut okay no it's so it's further down russell's holding up right around the corner from the of a store i was asking for a friend rob all right the main it's there's a main booth where you can talk to somebody you know answer your questions like information here kind of right when you get in there it's right next to that wow

[57:31]thank you moving along please rob mary j blige is 18 she records a karaoke track at a kiosk in the mall in the mall yeah this would be like if i got famous because i bought a head scratcher you know what i mean like that is the mall equivalent uh and she somehow that gets to a record producer at mca uptown they sign her at 18 from 18 to 21 she is making this album her debut album all of a sudden they have this intern you it big shit they had an anr intern turned producer named

[58:03]puff daddy he's taking charge and basically he's going to take new jack sounds and then have somebody who can really fucking sing go to town over it and kind of talk about like what it's like to be a woman in the streets behind these sounds you know uh and all of a sudden he's getting beats from schooly d mc light biz marquee ohio players the album gets all the way up to six on the billboard top 200 so if it's okay with you guys let's get into what's the 411 by mary j blige her

[58:33]debut album what's the 41 one but i want to go back what's the 41 one we'll we'll get into this but no go ahead get started aaron knows how to aaron knows how to entertain on the podcast i love it you said he's getting beats from and he's actually just jacking beats i was like wait schooly d and mc marquee gave him beats oh no and then he's the ohio player so he's just jacking beats aaron can we have one episode where you're not talking about jack and please not take

[59:02]it please mary j blige she's so awesome i don't like the opening on this no terrible i don't i i they just gotta let her like let's get rid of stuff yeah this is typical p diddy i know i'm saying i don't like it this is one where everybody who knows her is leaving a message saying how great she is it's kind of like the mc hammer music video where they're talking about how great she is but i'll say this i've turned this album on jenny told me to turn it off immediately she was so annoyed by this first song so then the second one should have ended it with that

[59:32]if they want to have it if they think it's going to add something i would end it agreed next up reminisce okay got mc light stop looking listen sampled here she's 21 here yeah that's wild she can sing like crazy she's talking about she's talking about lover's lane was there a lover's lane at your guys's hometown lover's lane what is that and did any of you know about it i suppose matt did for sure but it's like where you go to park no but there's i mean we used to have the

[60:03]airport right was on the east side of town there was a there's dead ends there's dead ends down but we're gonna watch we're gonna let's go watch some airports wow so you're sitting at this so so if i'm parked over in the cell phone parking lot i can look over and just see high schoolers making out it sounds not good i mean maybe but there used to be the ball fields that are gone now yeah so if i was creeping around the cars or whatever yeah how about you russell where is lover's lane

[60:34]rob i i must not i must not have had enough people inviting me to that place go over there and smell some of that oil at the oil refinery what's that called oh the the refinery coke yeah coke refinery yeah yeah that'd be a perfect place you want to go to a coke refinery and sit out in the park a lot just let everybody know this is a famous stinky area of

[61:03]minnesota this this refinery smells so bad that when you drive by you have to control the windows up but it would be a perfect place for an early sexual experience you know what i mean if just everything smells like sulfur nothing smells like sulfur russell it's a brilliant idea god damn that's smart why are you making out with me in a fuddruckers freezer you know what i mean like the sexiest place i can think of yeah okay make your own fuddruckers joke as home i'm simply too

[61:35]busy next up real love can i tell you guys this fuddruckers for food fuddruckers for fun this guy who wrote this song went on to write independent woman for destiny's child yeah she had some real hits she had some real hit makers on this record with her can i tell you this aaron this is the first time we've ever done one of these albums where i have made love to it oh and recently

[62:00]i can tell you what the first two songs first song at first song first song and a half maybe first song perfect the intro okay yep well no i know you skipped the intro you can't track it yeah i tracked the intro or like do you have the intro playing while like you're brushing your teeth in the next room no i i skipped it because i knew it annoyed her i didn't play it again i tracked it went on and i can tell you this is a great album to make love to

[62:30]okay it goes by a little quick but i should have been doing that rob because i'll tell you the hardest thing in my life as a judo musician is trying to figure out how to drum along with that drum beat i cannot i just can't like the little tripping forward thing i can't get it i should have been trying to make love to it instead this aaron i you couldn't do not make love to music aaron okay your brain is going to be somewhere else you need to be focused because we've talked about this yeah making love some people are like oh it's fun let's laugh no it's not it's serious business

[63:00]okay we're not talking okay we're not saying anything to each other it's what's we're punching in we're punching out okay aaron and don't look at me like that aaron when i say that by the way the most famous version of that song real love is probably on the remix album which i downloaded 18 times by accident i believe we call it a reprise no prize no prize for the reprise okay this is on the remix album and it's not on the remix album it's on the remix album it's on the remix album oh my god you know it we've got a biggie sighting

[63:33]a 1993 biggie smalls on the remix this is not on the album nope it's only on the remix album kind of fun wow thank you rob you remind you remind me listen to this voice they dropped this as the lead signal on the strictly business soundtrack puff daddy knowing

[64:01]this wasn't even the best single knew it was so good the album was so good he could put out subpar singles to draw people in quick question yeah is it about those wind chimes i like those can't stand them why i'm not gonna ask aaron may have man i'm not sure have you heard any of these songs before rob no aaron man heard real you know these songs or not oh yeah i know a few of them i mean real love for sure i only knew real love i think well i mean i know sweet i know sweet thing but not not mary jay's version you have to understand russell in 1990 i didn't start

[64:36]listening to the radio until like 93 and then i was like listening to like classic rock but this also this is for sure an album that four white dudes from where we grew up are not the right people to be commenting on whether we've heard this music or not like this is one of those albums that i'm sure was played non-stop in many households that was not the judge thing that was just me asking you guys because like i don't think i had any of these on like a winning player right no this this is stuff that missed us the first time right except for real

[65:03]love next we have another guys it's another just speaking one no but it's buster rhymes and the end i wanted to like it i i don't i didn't need the interludes i think she's damn good this feels like a cd album where like they knew people were going to skip this stuff but it was like well we know people can skip like i i feel like i don't know what it's like with streaming now but i think they would put stuff on cds and just know people would skip yeah i think matt's right i think this

[65:33]is classic puff daddy and i swear this is after watching that documentary this is him just trying to get as many people out there so that he could spread his web and then he could screw over more people when their albums came out and just he was just trying to worst overtake everything sweet bad person sweet thing now listen to this now aaron who sings i'm gonna do it the original now don't forget about rufus but now you know i'm gonna say here's the original

[66:08]so good right there's no one named rufus in the band rufus wow wow this is one of the all-time groups right all-time group you know what's funny there's no one on our podcast named back either wow true like do you think our podcast would be more successful if it was called rob did it better

[66:34]we can always rebrand this thing into her new thing yeah according to what was going on during the first couple songs of this that rob did not do it better okay rob was just fine you know what i know what do better yasmin bleath did it better that podcast would crush baywatch baywatch is going to be a great thing i'm going to do it all the way to the end of the show baywatch baywatch nights that's a better podcast uh love no limit it's got a little lower voice on this one yeah man what do we think of this album i mean where does this fit in this whole thing right

[67:11]this is a it's a seminal album but it's i gotta admit i i just am so not familiar with i think it's a great i can't stand it because of the puppy documentary now like wow not it's not it's the album because i know puppy was if if anybody else would have just put mary j blige with eight to twelve

[67:33]songs and just let her cook it would have been way higher on the list kind of a thing but puff and his just effed up way of doing things and just absolutely screwing people over i cannot get over that to say that this is a good album i can't because he thinks it's his album right so i don't want to say this is a great album because of him yeah not a great guy is what i'm learning i don't want to do anything this is her singing

[68:00]with casey haley oh this is written by jojo haley casey's brother and uh worked with jodeci now casey and jojo casey and mary j blige would eventually actually get together oh their relationship leading to a lot of the next album my life and they have an especially steamy duo together on mtb unplugged the mary j blige unplugged so beginning of which we got unplugged album coming up pretty quick slow down slow down baby about being more present in a relationship

[68:32]does she have a verse about how it's good to wear noise cancelling headphones around the house it actually helps listen i kind of enjoy the recorder sound the pan flute thing going on wow that's some what was the pan flute guy's name zampier zampier is the master of the pan flute everybody knows that you know what though he went to pan flute school for a couple more years you know what he is now the doctorate of the pan flute he actually he went off he took a step all the way up

[69:05]yeah he got a phm what's it called aaron is it a phm now you of course embarrassingly had a bachelor's of music in college so you were a bm i was in college that is uh well it depends and you can get a doctorate of music arts that's what you can do in the performing arts and then on the academic side of music you can get a phd wow julius the doctor he's out there with the pan flute my wife anna is a doctorate of musical arts so she is a doctor

[69:34]okay dma okay we don't need to brag if our spouses are doctors she'll sing a shit my love we got i we got some of the weaker ones toward the end here but it's a overly long album right it could have been a nine song album you know yep five song side or four song side and nail it changes i've been going through a lot like my life okay the song about

[70:01]like skin tone on her inner thigh turning color for some reason nobody knows why it's got to be it starts gets formulaic right it's like we're gonna have a dance floor song although i think i mean it's a 52 minute it's only 52 minutes long so it's not like it's overly long but it does feel overly right i mean blackheads in my armpits is that a change i've been going through i don't know there's what yeah what uh huh what would you guys say is a change you're going through oh never mind don't ask that i forgot it's a depressing question every time i ask depressing

[70:34]questions i'm gonna skip those okay oh yeah my eyes are getting worse and when i try to jump it feels like i'm not able to get off the ground or you know because aaron i'm just telling you right now sprinting you're you're still sprinting you and matt are still sprinting yeah i'm impressed by that yeah well i don't if you saw it you wouldn't call it sprinting but i have seen it i've seen you hit a shot in basketball one of the greatest moments of my life i appreciate you yeah we've

[71:01]got grand poobah oh miss missy elliott actually sorry missy elliott actually sampled this song in 2005 that's pretty sick if you have a song sampled by missy elliott that'd be pretty good listen that's it that's hey you asked me what the 411 is that's it and now the 411 that's that's the sum 41 that you know what to me russell i've got 400 of these things i've got 10 and then

[71:31]i've got one more you know what that is 41 one some 41 one yeah if you add them up not all just some 41 one hey how's that for acting what a cough listen this we're not we don't care about the albums okay we don't we don't we don't we're not here for that what we are here for is we are kind of like explorers of the list okay we're walking down this list we're seeing if the

[72:00]list is in a good order do we agree with the editors of rolling stone magazine okay who probably put in what do you think a thousandth of the time we have on this list we're not here for this they probably put in a what a millionth of the time we're really the list experts if you think about it so what do we declare is this at 271 is this perfect that would be rolling well toned okay if we think this is worse than going to the mall of america bathroom that would be a

[72:30]rolling groan it should not be up this high okay yeah is this a rolling groan at 271 or is this okay recursively kind of like the second song is this a rolling bone it should have been higher up on the list all right it's it's a it's a hip-hop soul classic whatever that means and maybe hey if you don't know what that means go back listen to my list a little history lesson for you okay just like my favorite michael jackson album black or white oh that wasn't the album was it dangerous oh you oh that was good you were

[73:05]setting up a good joke there thank you bad fuck that was the better answer uh listen aaron what rolling well toned rolling bone or rolling groan mary j blige what's the 411 ah matt matt makes such a good point and given the list where it stands today was made before i mean i'm sure i don't know there's no good way to say this anything that puffy touched should be lost in the dustbin of history unfortunately he touched albums by people like mary j blige and biggie and so they

[73:35]exist and it's uh i think great music and so i'm gonna call it rolling well toned um but it's a tough one it's a tough call i'm also gonna say this and this is apropos of nothing let's not relate this to anything that aaron just said jacking off with baby oil overrated just gonna say that right now harder than you think to do okay everybody thinks oh it's gonna be so fun oh it's just like a neuro massage that i saw online actually it's terrible and it's a huge

[74:00]mess and then what do you do with all the extra oil if if uh if if jeff from rosemont is walking around the track right now he's he's laughing out loud and somebody's wondering what's going i'm just here right now here's here's something you've never heard i used all my baby oil nobody has ever finished a bottle of baby oil in their entire lives like you can hear someone like in the other room rob like yeah hammering the bottle and like try to get the last like you hear this like slamming of the bottle like they're trying to get the last drop out like it's like hey what are you

[74:30]doing in there i'm trying to get the last drop of the baby oil out of the bottle it would be a bummer though if you turn on this album you turned your phone sideways yeah and then you have half an hour left to listen to it and then you have to wait for it to come out so of course this is when my kids come out all right uh let's move on uh russell what do you think rolling well toad rolling bone or rolling grown mary j blige what's the four one one i'm really torn i think mary j blige is so talented and i love listening we've listened to so many albums where like i don't think there's a whole lot of talent with some of these bands but here's where i had the hardest

[75:04]time with this one this is a thousand times better than the horseshit we're gonna listen to next week wow there there is like there is okay you're already working you're already working you're already working a week ahead when you listen to the so i listened to two albums back to back and i was listening to these in my car for part of the day this is like an a plus compared to the dog shit we are going to listen to next week and there's no getting around that so there's part of me that's like it's not my favorite album but if i'm comparing it to what's coming up it's pretty

[75:33]awesome but i'm going to say it's a slight rolling girl and it's a little too high for me on the list although i think she's super talented i could listen to her sing all day what do you think rolling well-toned rolling bone are really grown mary j blige what's the six just combine them uh the queen of hip-hop soul queen of r&b those are what she is called and you know she deserves every accolade that she gets as a as an artist right but this this album

[76:01]we're just talking about the album on the list in terms of top 500 albums of all time i'm going to say it's rolling groaned i don't know if it should be on the list i don't know if it should be on the list down on the list it's got one on the russell russell-o-meter it's got one absolute banger of a like a radio hit right but oh there's the doctor what's up doctor ask her if we're right about the baby oil real quick before it goes away damn it ask her quick ask her ask her ask the doctor

[76:30]he won't ask her um so i i don't know if this album belongs out there anything by mary j blige deserves to be on the list but i don't know if this album belongs out there anything by mary j blige deserves to be on the list but i don't know if this album belongs out there anything by mary j blige deserves to be on the list but i don't know if this album belongs out there anything by mary j blige deserves to be on the list but i don't know if this album belongs out there anything by mary j blige deserves to be on the list but uh to russell's point there's a lot of stuff coming up that's way better than this question and rob can delete this if you want all right so like we penalize mary j blige for working with puff daddy daddy whatever he goes by like there's stuff with with other people who've done bad things oh yeah and like what about what about

[77:03]the beatles who's the beatles guy who murdered that lady oh uh wall of sound like isn't he a part of a bunch of those albums or not bill specter yeah more beach boys than beatles but okay yeah yeah that's where that's where i think i'm trying to but it's probably but like the puffy stuff is very recent and okay you know i don't know uh it's we can delete it if mary j blige had done this out if she was like the producer the producer and like putting

[77:33]everything together if she was like more t-swifting this album than the p diddy like then that's why i'm trying to separate the two of them right like as an artist awesome great wonderful listen to her all day kind of a thing but this does this album by p diddy that happens to seems like feature mary j blige in my opinion no you know i don't i don't i'm gonna say it's rolling i think there's some stuff too russell with like the time like when the songs were made right you know what i

[78:02]mean like back in those days with the beach boys guess what you could bring a gun to the studio you could take it out every once in a while swing it around not the end of the world all right but we can't you know it just seems so much worse because it's modern day now i don't know it's tough isn't it because all these you could pull the thread at any of the bands we cover and they're not good people like they're it's bad there's bad there's somebody along the way there's somebody really bad i mean mick jagger has pictures with epstein right i mean there's things like that like we're you know i don't know what the extent of it is but

[78:31]i i've seen pictures of it so you know yeah to your point rob you can start pulling threads all day and don't throw a what is it don't throw a rock in a glass house or yes whatever you want to call it things like that so i don't know i just if there was a couple more hits on this maybe um that's it it's just not quite good enough russell that's the bottom line it's not quite good enough it's not quite good enough it's called rolling girl i mean it's entirely derivative it's like it's borderline karaoke itself it was like oh we took someone who can really sing and just put her on a bunch of songs

[79:03]that already exist and it sounds good it feels like it's on the list because it's her first like big album right and then like the next one awesome album that's why it's higher in the list so yeah we we love thriller we didn't say anything with thriller that album's a really good uh listen unfortunately you guys are incorrect what shit this gets a rolling throne this is the queen of hip-hop soul oh okay we're talking about leading i just said that leading into d'angelo leading

[79:31]into beyonce leading into frank ocean i would argue this is a transition time for music and this uh and this 21 year old started the whole thing okay with a little bit of help from dr baby oil he actually had a doctorate baby oil a lot of people realize he was doing his studies i don't i feel like they're like different yeah it's neo soul aaron after the beat was like yeah he was like looking back before her i don't yeah he was out of the matrix that's why it's called neo soul okay it's different than you know mr anderson i mean i guess they probably still come from the shaka con part of the tree i don't

[80:04]know i'd have to see the tree aaron listen you're talking seriously but listen to this joke do you want cum gutters mr anderson that's neo soul take the blue pill if you want this podcast and now take the red pill oh you look down all you've got are purple pills what the fuck listen next week we're doing a velvet underground album that most people describe as the one between their two good albums oh my

[80:33]god abomination but it also describes aaron after his visit to thailand for his business meeting white light and white heat why do you have to go to middle management this is the closest aaron's been to quitting the podcast he loves the culture i know actually rob while we're wrapping up here i did much earlier ask i said it better you were talking about ordering food at restaurants i said what

[81:05]would aaron order if we went to tga fridays can i give you aaron's order please tj fridays please first they're saying he's ordering a beer something ordinary like a sam adams or a local ipa and somehow it would become a 20-minute saga on the next episode which tracks with his getting a beer turned into a crazy story vibe wow all right the second thing he's getting is a whiskey glaze sampler wow because aaron often seems torn between decisions on the show

[81:31]a sampler fits his chaotic energy perfectly wow that means chaotic aaron getting a sampler tj friday this is one of the funniest fucking things i've thought about in my entire life sampler appetizer jazz he's got a whiskey glaze sampler he's following it up with the classic whiskey glazed burger simple solid universally liked much like the way the hosts rely on him to stabilize the episode once nonsense has gone too far wow then aaron might need to go to the hospital after this meal then he's getting boneless wings oh wow they're getting boneless wings third aaron that's

[82:03]fuck mild but he'll rob they're mild but he'll claim they're spicy wow he's very on brand for the tangent the spirals that everyone roasts him for wow and finally it does know really well with the brownie obsession because he would talk about it for way too long in the voicemail segment so aaron's meal yes is two whiskey items sam adams whiskey glaze sampler a whiskey glaze burger boneless wings and the brownie obsession you see what i'm talking about

[82:35]aaron just let it order doesn't that sound good just let it take over why does a burger need a whiskey glaze why are we glazing our burgers i don't know oh man aaron's eating aaron's eating burgers a lot of whiskey glaze i'm sorry i'll have my burger non-glazed record scratch whole restaurant looks you probably wondered how i got in this place aaron you know who was in the band rufus ironically there's one a guy named floris oh god sometimes i try so hard not to laugh

[83:08]and then they uh