Alanis Morissette: Jagged Little Pill (1995) w/ Suzanne

[00:00]in 2020 four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums as decided by rolling stone magazine this resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music excoriated the order and led us to making this podcast we are far from experts we promise to do almost no research all opinions are our own unless you disagree please sit back and enjoy back did it better from 1995 this is album 69 jagged little pill by alanis morissette listen i i think today the goal is i know it's album 69 but i think the goal is we're going to try to keep this episode as clean

[00:34]as possible okay okay i want one that i can send in i can send in with my kids to school they can say hey friends check out this podcast okay that's getting edited out that's too weird but we are going to let's go see what uh just like alanis got her start when they brought the tape over to k-rock and the dj said we got to play this right away i brought a tape today you did it to k-rob and they said oh my god we have to play it nice uh i couldn't believe it i was i was blown away so

[01:02]let's let's listen right now what's up everybody welcome to k-rob k-r-o-b listen the number one thing i get asked on this show is why is it so dirty and the answer is it's not rob it's actually the other guys oh yeah i try every week oh no to keep you the episode clean but then erin reminds that this is album 69 these guys they make it dirty

[01:35]yeah they talk about feet and how they bought some tang well they're trying to bait me and talk about pornography it's kind of like i'm getting gang bangs i try real hard the whole darn show not to say a single thing that i think would provoke but did you hear me about a second ago i said the word hard and i said the word whole i didn't make

[02:06]a joke i think that shows some growth i won't swear for an hour we're going to do a clean episode today there's no jacking off in the shower or dressing up like a chair to get people to sit on my face this will be a clean show

[02:30]huh when you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time but you're just too lazy to look it up online if you want to hear from guys who said it's gonna be a clean show right in the song i've got the perfect podcast for you beck did it better rob i gotta pause for real you gotta turn the i can't hear you guys over the audio right now no i couldn't either that was too loud all right it's not too loud russell

[03:00]you're just too old okay i'm drunk but i'm sober and i'm not young i guess i'm not underpaid either yeah yeah i've got uh one hand in my pocket and one hand just down the front of my pants all right so this is uh i've got three guys here in the studio and i'm going to be talking about who think about going down in the theater is heading down the steps to get some more milk duds i've got matt minneapolis matt how are you doing good i had some milk duds today at a theater after this clean show but man you're a fucking loser what the hell are you getting milk duds for

[03:38]they're like the bottom of the they're like candies for like grandparents your thoughts good caramel good put them together great it's all good no no milk nobody's ever had a milk that oh my god this is great a milk that is like if you're if your church forbade you from having candy and like that you eat that candy you're like oh wow this is way better than good and plenty like that's where it is it's good and plenty and then like almond joys and then it's milk duds that's the hierarchy of

[04:04]the shit list of candy but you can still be enjoying milk duds many hours later you can just be picking them right out of your molars and just have an extra milk through the whole show oh gross uh one of these days one of these days we'll just pick on all of rob's you know like things that he likes and stuff and we'll just let we'll just have a day listen just pick out rob how about that i would love to have like some back and forth with this conversation instead of me just yelling at you i would love it if you guys would like talk back to me and we

[04:32]could like interact and maybe this is the intro quotes rob we don't do conversations in the intro quotes right and that voice you hear is russ russ in minnesota russ how are you doing i'm good guys my dating life is a little bit ironic don't you think it's like t-shirt lines on my concert date it's no uber ride when my date's cold and it's already late it's already late it's already late it's matt's great ticket advice that i just didn't take oh and who would have thought it's a good advice you just didn't take i thought for sure you're gonna do it who would have thought it

[05:02]that's just me that's just me oh no what it's clean from here on out though for sure aaron in california aaron how are you doing hey i'm great i listened to alana's today and she said she recommends that anyone bite off more than they can choose so hey let's make a funny podcast about this album let's go okay we're gonna okay from here on out it's gonna be funny and clean oh my god how could i do either one of those things uh and by back by popular request uh mostly your own it's suzanne suzanne how are you doing oh yeah back in the house happy to be here

[05:35]happy to be here i i had to push and shove my way in i barely got an invitation but i'm so happy to be here because this is going to be clean show and that's what i'm here for yep keeping it clean okay we're gonna keep that in mind as we go and no more talking about all right so matt did you go we just had thanksgiving matt did you go see your mother-in-law over thanksgiving yes how much you

[06:00]talk about the podcast not too much you know because again she understands that we're much more than this podcast right and so yeah no i mean a little bit not too much but yeah i i was i just saw my mother-in-law the other weekend and she was talking to me about the podcast and she told me she just tunes out what do you mean what does she tune out why would you tune out she said there's parts where rob is talking and i listen and there's parts where rob's talking i just tune out and i don't listen to those parts and i was like uh now here's the thing though is that i was

[06:33]like i did tell her i said you know bernie i am playing a character on the show like it's not true like when you meet me in real life i'm not like this i'm actually quite different how so how are you different than that how is the character different than the real life guy i would never pause it let somebody else talk there for example that is true that is true you can either no pregnant pauses in real life yeah you can either talk with me or you can get out of my way because i've got stuff to say you know i'm bringing it like yeah rob has never asked

[07:02]me how it's going in real life he's never done that he does it every week on this podcast well i got in big trouble with suzanne she called me on the phone once okay which by the way psycho psycho stuff to call me on the phone just out of the blue just calling me on the phone and suzanne what did i say when i picked up the phone oh you said i don't know what you said but it was not i said what's up to her and she was furious with me for saying what's up what are you supposed to say no it wasn't it wasn't like what's up it was like what yeah what's up like annoyed like that oh it was like why are you bothered why are you

[07:34]calling it wasn't like the old budweiser thing was uh it wasn't like that it was just like what's what's happening why are you bothered yeah exactly but why why were you it was really important it was really important in the moment and so then i had to train him as to how to answer a phone call in a polite way how do you answer it now how does he do it now it hasn't worked out now he he pauses a very long time he says oh well hello how are you today

[08:01]yeah it's much more pleasant it's trainable it makes me sick i do it very sarcastically it's ironic i mean do you ever get a phone call and you're like oh good i get to talk on the phone when it's me i did have again when i was like 11 years old though i did have a buddy where i'd call up and he'd say like is rob there and the dad it was like his court he said he'd he said call back when you know how to call make a phone call i was like what the and it's not like he could text back then when you were 11 and so i had no idea so i called back up and said is rob there you need to

[08:35]say hello and then is rob there that's a good point say hello and then he hung up said call back again so from now ever since that ever since i was 11 it's wow hello is rob there hello can i speak to rob please something like that you know because of derrick from richfield you know was yelling at me when i was 11 years old so let's get into the uh no let's get into rolling going and like five minutes it's time it's time to see what everybody's up to it's time

[09:03]for uh aaron rolling going how's it going with you out in california you had a busy holiday travel you gotta have something exciting to say i can't wait to hear what this rolling going is oh my god it's gonna be gold oh i can't wait i know you're stoked i know you're stuck i gotta start off i'm sorry guys i have to start off on a serious note it is the day after thanksgiving that we are recording uh this podcast the day after thanksgiving is the day that i was able

[09:30]to convince my lady to start playing christmas music no earlier than the day after thanksgiving so we started in on the christmas tunes today uh which was actually delightful i just i prefer like a good like a one month christmas music period any longer just feels like too long to me it's too much time to do it so i'm going to start off on a serious note it is the day after thanksgiving so we started the christmas tunes today and i might have mentioned this on last year's christmas episode i don't remember but every time every time the first time every year that john lennon says to me so this is christmas and what have you done another year over a new one's just begun i

[10:04]really got to think about what have i done with my year what do you think you've done on this podcast what's been your proudest accomplishment on this podcast i spent my year talking to you guys that's it that's like that's really bad i show up to talk to you guys and you guys show up to talk to me and that's it that's the that's the best thing so i spent a lot of time this year making this podcast with you all suzanne this is your second time with us happy to have you back thank you and uh yeah when i look back on my year that's uh that's what uh that's what i feel proud

[10:33]about aaron enough about us let's talk about you for a minute what else is rolling going that was another that was a good little quote you like that i liked it yeah i liked it aaron i think you're gonna know that your year has not been going very well when your kid sets up like i want to be you know i want to be a part of your life i want to be a part of your life i want to be a part of your it's like a cat in the cats in the cradle type situation where the kid's like i want to be just like you dad and he sets up a little podcast studio in the kitchen right and then he plays a tape of somebody just telling him what a dumb shit he is over and over and he's got to sit there and laugh at it be like dad am i just like am i just like your dad it's like he's got that story

[11:03]was done he's got to be like but over the past week things i've done include uh flying to iowa going to a wedding doing my very best to irish goodbye the wedding we left uh at 9 15 p.m uh that's when the dj dropped hood go crazy by uh t chain to two chains and tech nine chains which was unfortunate because i was ready to leave because they played fortunate son and i was like i'm out of here but uh then they started playing the real tunes the uber was already coming so i

[11:30]had to irish goodbye that that one fortunate son was she was she marrying some guy whose dad everybody called the colonel like why did they play fortunate son not sure unclear unclear the songs going on to the colonel dealt with a projectile vomit situation on the drive from uh to iowa that was uh did you make your wife clean it up or did you clean it up i you know she did end up cleaning it up yeah and were you okay after that i mean yeah the rest of the car but i was i was okay it took me a minute but i was all right yeah it was the most vomit i've

[12:05]ever seen come out of a person except for maybe russell's 21st birthday but it happened it did happen but it was close second this is a close second and to bring it down in my book of least surprising things i've ever heard last night when we got home we had to roll through mcdonald's because all of the um stores in the airport that might have sold milk were closed we had to get my son some milk so while going through the mcdonald's drive-thru i also got a filet of fish i'll be honest it was

[12:31]the first filet of fish i've ever had in my life i spoke last week on last week's episode about a fish sandwich that i had here in oakland which i now realize was inspired by the filet of fish the filet of fish this is a good sandwich i think that people out there you when you went through the when you went through the drive-thru did you get like anything good from mcdonald's you're like well i gotta do it healthy if i'm going through the drive-thru i'm only getting the filet of fish there's nothing healthy about the filet of fish we got we got russell's like what the fuck are you on a diet why are you getting all this health food

[13:05]it's got american cheese on there and tartar sauce and all that it's delicious mcdonald's drive-thru at like midnight or whatever and you ordered milk and a filet of fish yeah the guy is so high in the car like i assume everybody was like looking out the windows when you drove up it's like how high is this guy he's just getting milk and filet of fish like that's that's a crazy crazy order i assume every time mcdonald's sells a filet of fish like some alarm goes off at mcdonald's

[13:31]headquarters they go what what and they have like a little party or something oh man i was impressed it's delicious shout out mcdonald's for their filets of fish and really does your son need to go like he can't go one day without milk is he gonna get osteoporosis if he goes one day without milk or what no i'm fine if he skips the milk but it's his routine man he's like i want my milk before i'm going to bed don't take those yeah don't take those kids out of routine nah we we had promised him the milk in the car and he was like that's what i'm getting so we had we had to find a place did you

[14:00]guys have the problem i had with kids where the bedtime routine got more and more complicated oh as it was like in the beginning it was putting him in bed and then it was putting in bed and putting five blankets on him and then it was putting in bed five blankets plus 10 different dolls and it was like they would they knew how to keep you in there they're like little negotiators what was your what was your parenting style of putting your you have a son right what was your style when you put him to bed there was there was a thousand stories and kisses good night and then there was this whole routine where he said where'd mommy go and i'd have to pop out and say right here

[14:31]and then would mama go right here oh no i'm so glad to hear that yeah yeah it wasn't good i would have just scared the shit out of that kid once and i would have never had to go through like the late night routine again i would have just been like old man get out of here i need to go to sleep it's they get you though because they don't say like oh stay in here for 10 minutes they're like oh just stay in here for an extra 10 seconds but then after like two months it's 10 minutes because it's extra 10 seconds every time it's terrible yeah it's it's not linear it's exponential yeah they're like they're like a drug dealer but

[15:02]it's like hanging out with them get you hooked and then they're like okay you're gonna do this more and more and pretty soon you just you can't escape it it's bad they lure you in lure you in yeah because they give you a free sample of that love then they guilt you i mean then the guilt comes out like oh you last night you did that oh you know like okay and every night you do this now it's a thing if you do it once right you can do it a thousand times and time goes so matt uh aaron ate a fish fillet sandwich that was pretty much what i heard from his rolling going so we could have had so many good stories but no one's

[15:33]story was i went through the mcdonald's drive-thru and got milk and fish so you weren't tempted at all to like get a fry like going to a mcdonald's and not getting a french fry to me is 100 insane my son would have eaten them all if i had gotten fries i would have just hand them right back to the back seat he would have had to he would have had to take them like i was no like if i get the fish he's not gonna steal it from me the last time i was here you were eating dandelion green so i think this is a move in the right direction it is thank you yeah so i'm i'm impressed with the fish

[16:01]rolling rolling going matt how's it go matt how's it going with you you're up i mean have you guys ever had to deal with a drunk wife like on friday nights just coming in and are you implying that one of our co-hosts is dealing with that right now as we speak yeah i mean like there's a lot for our listeners there's a lot of waving in the zoom call going on right now a lot of waving in the zoom call you wouldn't believe what jenny just came in and asked me like to take like this is the one thing i like to do all week and i've said to her like i am looking forward to

[16:30]this she came in and she's showing me hold on she is showing me the office sorry matt i wasn't listening what you're saying behind you rob because jenny was showing me i know it's kind of we're gonna need a bigger boat but here's the thing is that she is showing me a picture for christmas cards okay oh so i can tell you tonight too yeah oh how about we also oh okay oh yeah that's really important how about we get a time machine and go back 10 years when people still send christmas cards tell them where our christmas cards from last year are i'm gonna send them together yeah

[17:00]yeah we still have every single christmas i got mine i know i got mine in june i i when i was at your place in june i grabbed mine so it's yeah you don't get it second we're only sending you one of our christmas cards this year not both christmas cards we're like hoarders but it's so if we're not going to send out one christmas card what makes us think we're going to send out two this year terrible just terrible i'm sorry man what's your role in the hostage um not much not much enough about rob let's talk about matt for a while what's rob's show guys we got to give him as much time as the main host

[17:34]he needs this uh not tonight he brought his friend suzanne on which per our contract mean he has to cut his time in half he's got to cut his time down so we all get our time i think everyone knows that i'm the main host i think i bring the most listeners so you know i'm just saying i like this rivalry you were telling us last time that you had listeners that listened to the show for about 10 minutes and then literally got up and walked out of the room this one has jacking off in the shower in the opening song like you did that on purpose

[18:01]i tried i sent out an email saying i'm in an inappropriate i'm in an in a god i can't even say it i'm terrible i'm in an inappropriate podcast and nobody listened i was like that to me that's the enticing message like wouldn't you want to hear where does your brother-in-law jack off not the shower oh my god it is over for me no christmas for me i'm not going there speaking of nobody listening matt rolling going how's it going with you does he stand up or lay down standing up forget about it that is a young man's game i've

[18:34]said that before standing up and you're like focusing oh forget about it and god help you if you catch a glimpse of yourself in the mirror like it's just over oh lord forget it no nothing moving on to matt matt how's your what's rolling going with you matt uh not much i was just gonna talk about you know i got last week was nice here so i got all 18 of my blow-ups up uh added a couple new ones i don't know what that means it sounds really questionable 12 foot santa

[19:05]you know it's about six foot wide it's like santa had sex with a millipede he's got 12 feet and then i and then the the only thing i've tried to get a little creative this year and there's this um blow-up of elf you know but it's like it's just his feet so it's like the waist to his feet it's like it's supposed to be stuck in a snowbank and i'm trying to have it affixed to my uh my chimney so it looks like he's going down the chimney but like i don't have the

[19:31]it keeps blowing around up there so trying to get a little more creative this year so when you say when you say elf are you talking about like the the christmas elf or the the alien elf from that old tv show nobody thinks about elf anymore that's what i thought he was talking about it would be interesting to see what his butt looked like though wouldn't it his little legs sticking up he'd be like oh that's elf's butt that's what it looked like remember he just like sat on that couch talking to that old guy the whole time

[20:00]hey hey norm check out my butt it's actually both cheeks are shaved you think there's gonna be hair on them but they're not i bet he was like one of those monkeys you know where like the butt was like a bright pink and then he was like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my they just never referenced it ever hey i want to eat some cats look at my bright pink butt do you guys like my elf impression is that a new one i should put i'm enjoying that no that one that one should that should come into the rotation as somebody suzanne who has grown up in manhattan in their entire life and really never gone anywhere else i i probably should explain to you what these yard inflatables are please okay let's start with what a yard is matt has okay

[20:36]first of all there's like it's like a dog park but it belongs to you okay does that make sense uh and and there's there's like real grass and so matt has only like four homeless guys peeing in your in your yard it's kind of similar to that so matt has spent the last uh what eight years or so buying probably six you know since leo's nine so probably since he was three or four yeah so he has

[21:01]five or six years he has been buying uh you know those things that are like outside of car dealerships that you can blow up oh and they wiggle around yeah those way oh she's doing it she's doing dance okay she's getting way into it she's very flowing she looks just like it's incredible what it looks like matt has decided that those what would look good is a bunch of those in his yard starting on thanksgiving and coming down when when do they come down like march no i try to get by the time look here's the problem with having three or four was great that was funny then we

[21:34]get up to like eight or nine and now the neighbors are starting to say really cool my wife's kind of getting pissed off about it yeah now we're up to like 16 to 18 and the problem is is that they're only getting bigger right oh so so suzanne the joke is is that we started out with mike wiskowski sitting on a present you know the guy from monsters inc or whatever you know we started out with that and like a like a four-foot um darth vader you know that was the blow-ups and then you know so that was like the three or

[22:02]four-year-olds well last year we got like a poop emoji so now that's what that's what the kids are these aren't even christmas themed like aren't they oh they've got oh they've all got a christmas hat on poop emojis got lights going around it kind of you know like it's a tree except it's just a poop emoji and so so we've got that i mean there's like there's a christmas pig it's just a pig that's got a santa hat on there's a duck and they cost like hundreds of dollars right no they're like 14 dollars i think what you don't get is like

[22:31]as matt's kids gets older he's like i can't stand i need to spend less and less time i'm going to buy more and more of these yeah so i need to go outside and it's going to take me like two days to air all of this so i'm going to go outside and it's going to take me like two days to air all of this up it's not going to take me an hour he needs as many problem is yeah the problem is is we're getting bigger right so we got a 10 foot christmas tree last year that was pretty skinny it just goes back well this year we've got this it's a 12 foot and it's and it's as round almost as round as it is tall uh snowman you don't have to point at me when you say that yeah with the wind and everything

[23:04]i mean these things don't stay in the ground right and so if you have one of them you can anchor the hell out of it but you got to anchor down the ground and you've got to anchor down the like 18 of them it's just it's it's a full-time job i like how mad is acting like this is anyone else's fault but his own he's like he's like these things are just getting bigger and bigger i don't know where they're coming from so we've started so we've started we've started transitioning to the lights and so this year instead of just like one string around the front we went all up and down the front and then kind of made like a little uh outline of the roof you know and so next year

[23:33]hopefully we get the whole roof taken care of multiple weekends where he's outside the whole time just like constantly putting stuff up and can't he can't wait to take it down but two weeks later yeah no you did you did ask when do i take him down i took as close to december 25th at 11 59 p.m as possible because i've been i've been out there fixing them and anchoring them back down and putting lights on

[24:00]all that stuff i just want to be done with it by that time and so yeah no i just got a text i just got a text about the christmas cards guys the saga of the christmas cards is continuing and i'm going to tell you right now i am not in the right okay so it turns out i'm actually really excited for double christmas cards this year i think it's actually a really good idea if my text message indicates anything so matt at what point is your wife going to put because now there's guys i think when when kids reach a certain age guys either get into sports like ultra marathoning or whatever they're just out of the house for like 10 hours at a time nope or they or they get into uh extreme yard work or smoking meat smoking meat yes that's

[24:35]that's a 14 brewing kombucha or beers yeah yeah that's a yes that's a classic one so at what point is your wife going to put her foot down and say you absolutely cannot uh buy any more yard inflatables like is that conversation started at all hasn't started but i mean we're getting there we're getting close time for an intervention just live in a small minneapolis yard you know and russell's yard is twice the size of mine his front yard and so you know we can't we can only fit so many

[25:01]but but i think like if she if your wife has to be like i always tell my sister this my sister's husband hunts and fishes a lot and i always tell her like look this is the least of your worries he could be out doing way worse things than that like if matt's worst problem is he's out and he's inflating inflatables way too much and their yard is full of stuff like you got to be thankful for that right like it's the season what more could you ask for than than a spouse that their major issue is they have too many inflatables there there is nothing better and i've said this and

[25:30]i'm going to get myself in trouble here i'm going to get myself in trouble there is nothing better than sarah coming back from a night of boozing with her friends and all the stories you hear they go back and forth yeah so again to your point russell the worst thing that they've got on me is that i buy too many inflatables and put up too many christmas lights so i'm doing okay i think yeah you're you're all right man yeah i like the idea of like that she's actually doing this because it keeps you from cheating on anybody because like the moment you'd be like hey my wife and kids are out my wife and kids are gone

[26:01]why don't you come over we can mess around a little bit and somebody pulls up and they see that you have 20 yard inflatables they'd be like you're out of there they'd be like okay uh actually you know what i gotta go the uber is coming and uh i'll see you later i'm gonna wait by this giant mike woskowski on a present out here you know for for most of us for most of us we're out we've and this is i hate saying this anymore because it's so stupid but we've all kicked our coverage our wives are way better than us they've got at least in my situation this way higher chance that

[26:30]my wife is cheating on me than me cheating on my wife right because like i can't i can't get much higher and that's that's very true i can't get much higher on the old tree so i think it kind of works reverse russell that if some dude pulls up and sees a whole bunch of inflatables you'll be like what the fuck's going on in this league how can she allow these in her front yard i'm actually deterring you know the huge crank from coming over that's a good point i think that's that's a i think that's science

[27:00]right like that's right that's what you're thinking unless you're unless you are like you know maybe like watching through a window while your wife gets pounded by some other guy might be a turn on you know and maybe if you're sitting against a giant inflatable couch man just has a big inflatable couch it's facing toward his house it's like why wait that's weird russell rolling going how's it going with you rolling going aaron you mentioned you were at a wedding last weekend and you didn't want to tell any details about it because you were like hey all the fun stuff i'm just going to ignore we're just going to go straight mcdonald's drive through the whole thing i was going to go crazy by tech nine

[27:30]bov and two chains that's a great track after fortunate son this wedding is whack dude i don't know who's who's running the playlist at that wedding but it is not very good well i wasn't going to ask about the playlist at the wedding but what i wanted to ask about one of the things my favorite part of going to a wedding and i i was paying attention to this every time i go to wedding my favorite thing is the speeches it's the best man speech the maid of honor speech the the father of the bride you know the mother whoever's given speeches i love you like these you like that's the worst part of every wedding

[28:00]so cringeworthy like some of them go so long and you just like are cringing for people up there and they're so out of their comfort zone you have people who never speak in public and they're up there just bombing and i love every bit of it like great wedding speeches i love horrible wedding speeches i love i love like oh my god speeches have gone on for an hour and everyone's sitting there like wait we can't go get a drink we're just still sitting here listening i love the whole thing that comes with wedding speeches them going too long and then they're like oh my god

[28:30]i love it so i gotta know like have you guys ever given a speech at a wedding before or what's your wedding speech style what do you like to hear what do you not like to hear my sister i was talking to her the other day and she and she let me know that i had given a toast at her wedding that was unapproved she had not given me permission to give a toast and apparently i had just thought it was my right to give a toast and she said that i stood up and told a story that was not very good and that the toast was not very good and it's possibly one of the most hurtful things that she's ever said to me

[29:00]because it seems so real like she didn't just say oh you were just told you this now yeah i i was like oh a i don't remember giving a toast but b if i had i'm sure it was really funny i know i have like my top you know just my top jokes i can use but the only ones the i mean again they get so bad i and again the worst ones are the ones that have clearly been written out and then like thought of for like 30 days you know like and they've they've workshopped it and gone through it and you can tell that they're reading about

[29:30]oh and that one time that i knew that we were going to be best friends forever you know and nobody gives a fuck about the story about how you're going to be best friends forever and all that right like that's between you guys yeah you guys talk about that when you're hanging out and having a beer right yeah you know but like nobody cares about that like you you know why you're the best everybody's just gonna assume that you're the best man or the best you know the maid of honor you know for a good reason nobody cares what the backstory is things like that that is so right like this is my favorite part of being at weddings is someone telling like these

[30:00]super hey this this story only applies to two or three people in the whole building and they go on and on and on and you're looking around there's one person like at some random table who's laughing enjoying every minute and the rest of everyone's just like fuck my life this needs to end now like i can't get enough of uncomfortable wedding speeches you're spot on man i love it russell's perfect day is like waiting outside in a slippery part of the sidewalk and seeing people fall and then going into a wedding and hearing long boring speeches and everybody's nervous he's just like yes i love it this is so great

[30:30]and i'm not even saying there were long boring speeches at this wedding it just made me start thinking about like when you see speeches like some people just want them to go really quick i love the cringeworthy ones that go on forever russell what's the worst you've ever seen have you guys ever seen a truly terrible wedding speech um the worst one i ever saw one of our this was one of our listeners um was actually his uh first wedding i don't know if he'll be having a second one but this wedding did not work out but that's what they had announced the wedding like this well they welcome my first wedding everybody thanks for coming there there was one

[31:04]i i had so some not all the time you see like parents will give a speech so sometimes it's just maid of honor groomsmen or best man whatever you want to say best best whatever the the main two people are it's two two speeches one on each side right sometimes they'll the parents will jump in and start giving speeches sometimes they're like multiple people give speeches they go on forever but this one the father of the bride gave a speech and it got kind of in a and then he just started lambasting like the ex-wife who was there so that was the most

[31:34]appropriate one i ever saw was where where ex-spouse stuff came out from the father of the or the father of the bride and russell's in the back just going yes well it's funny you're you're you're making fun of it but my buddy has actually told me he remembers this speech at his wedding and it was so uncomfortable and it was so you're going for so long and he was just saying these things like what everyone's like what are you doing you need to stop and my buddy tells the story of all of a sudden he turned and he could hear me over on this like

[32:02]main table sitting next to him just laughing my ass off like i was like this is so insane it's so crazy i loved it i i my my favorite along that lines was i had a buddy of mine tom tom from richfield one of my best friends in the whole wide world was getting married getting married outside they weren't going to have a priest or anything the brother-in-law got ordained by you know whatever dot com you know so he's up there giving the speech and he's like oh my god i'm going to be you're giving he's doing the ceremony right so he's up there and he's starting to break down

[32:33]it's just such an emotion i never thought that i'll just say you know i never thought that karen would ever find somebody and tom comes along and it's so great you know and everybody's like what and all of a sudden the father of the bride just starts laughing out loud because his son-in-law is balling you know up there giving it and i can still picture the snakes everybody oh what a sweet thing and then the father-in-law just starts laughing at him because he's balling up there so i thought that was pretty funny have you guys ever given a speech at a wedding before or not it might shock you that one of the longest

[33:02]speeches at my wedding was actually my my speech that i gave i had like a four-pager written out making sure i think everybody terrible yeah but so you gave a speech at your own wedding yeah of course oh see i think that's bullshit i think it's your wedding i think you're supposed i think it's 10 seconds thank you everyone for coming you're not supposed to be saying anything else right thanks for coming thanks everybody thanks mom and dad thank the venue yeah can you imagine now i want to preface this by saying i do love you can you imagine being aaron's son right and your dad gets up to give a wedding speech here's aaron

[33:33]giving a wedding speech at his son's wedding and this speech starts by talking about oh this is so great and we've had so many memories and i'm so proud of my son and then it ends with him talking about like well yesterday for lunch i did go and get a meatball sub at one of my favorite sandwich places in the bay area slow clap afterwards like people are just like yes yes people want to know that stuff man they want to know i was like i want to double back really quick the wedding i was out last weekend did play fat bottom girls before they played fortunate son so shout out to that dj

[34:00]for playing fat bottom girls because that got the dance floor moving i just i don't know why the ccr came in when it did i just don't get how you would dance to fortunate son it doesn't know it's not i mean what do you do it was yeah it was an awkward moment suzanne what are your thoughts on wedding speeches have you ever given a wedding speech or have been been at one with an uncomfortable one well i have been a wedding singer i've been asked to sing at a few weddings and that was not too pretty um and then at one of those weddings the wedding was at a wedding and i was like oh my god and then at one of those weddings the bridesmaid the maid of honor gave kind of a bad speech so

[34:30]the bride pulled me aside and said could you please please please do a speech this story is made up this is a made-up story by suzanne no i made a speech it was short and it was punchy and it was funny and the bridesmaid was so pissed at me she gave me the evil eye and i had to hide for the rest of the wedding i would have been pissed too yeah you can't jump in and steal her thunder it's kind of like this podcast that i'm sort of like i'm the main host and rob is like fading into the background you're you're you're a closer we're calling you in i can imagine suzanne's like and that was my speech and now it's time for me to

[35:03]sing fortunate son some folks are born no people ask me to sing the weirdest things like why what did you say i don't know like time in a bottle or something i don't know at my wedding that is bullshit that you would pick that song you know that was a song that aaron that somebody's saying was that you aaron is that what you're saying at my wedding i know i sang uh the prayer by josh groban and uh oh my god is that true lady is yes oh terrible yeah i

[35:35]me me and miss iowa did a duet at your wedding i don't you think the real key to a wedding speech is just don't make it memorably bad like no one will ever remember a good wedding speech no one will ever remember anything you say they're still talking about mine blow it up people will remember that you were a disaster right i think here's the key to a wedding speech is don't make it speech you make fun of the groom you say the bride is nice boom you tell a joke and then it's done that's it right like it's yeah you take that formula and you run with it yeah it's that simple

[36:02]speaking of not being speaking of not being too memorable from our last podcast suzanne nice to have you back rolling going how's it going with you well everything's good um i i have a friend who's now entering the dating world and she actually took us she she took a bunch of friends and said i want you to meet this guy so we went out for some dinner and it was time to order the wine and we were all talking oh maybe we'll get the multipulciano oh and then the waiter said i think you should get this one and it's very expensive

[36:33]and we were sort of all thinking about it and a friend of mine we turned and talked for a moment and the next thing i knew the guy was whispering with the waiter and the waiter rushed away and he said oh i ordered a chilean wine and everyone got silent and said you you made you decided on the wine oh no oh you know we all acted like oh no big deal that's fine oh sure we all love a chilean wine oh that's great so i guess i wanted to ask you do you think it's a little odd for the man

[37:04]group of women to make that decision and order the wine what do you think it's a terrible terrible move i think that's i think it's a terrible decision sit back and be quiet man was it a malbec or what's the deal or was it like a was it something was it like a super tannic red yes it was tannic red that's exactly what i was thinking oh i love that band funny they're my favorite i will say i think when you're a guy and you're going out with a friend a girlfriend's all of

[37:34]her friends you've got to be on high alert you've got to be on your best behavior the whole time because that is going to make or break you if those four friends come back and say listen this guy's a prick like you're done you got it you got to sit there and just you have to find out who is the alpha in that friend group and be as nice to her and you know who it is i mean let's be clear it's it's obviously suzanne but you have to be as nice as you can to them get on her good side and just hope it works out you cannot be ordering the wine as much as you want to show

[38:01]those ladies who's in charge you just cannot but it's not just wine right like if that dude started ordering like appetizers for everybody i mean like he doesn't know anything i mean there's just don't order any don't take any sort of like oh let me get you know let me figure this out right kind of a thing yeah that was just an absolutely i'm with matt isn't this isn't this a free pass to just go your evening like you don't have to make a choice you just listen let the let the people decide what they want you can opine later and say maybe i like this better than that but this is your chance to

[38:34]like let the evening wash over you you don't have to step in if you don't have to i think at some point you just say listen your friends are nice they're really funny they're not as pretty as you boom like that's that's that's the move and you move on you don't say like oh hey it looks like she wants some mozzarella sticks like that's not but also it was suzanne you get enough wine one bottle is not enough for how many people were there five no i did not get enough wine and that's probably part of the problem three at least so what what was the

[39:05]ultimate uh what was the ultimate rating of the of the guy was well interestingly she never asked us our opinion now if that were me the second the dude or whatever the person left i would be like okay one to five what do you think i gotta give you a warning here you you may not be aware of this she may not be using you guys for your opinion on this person she may be using you guys as like hey i actually have some friends that's true like you're thinking hey this guy

[39:33]needs to impress us she may be doing this other way around she's like i just need to show that i have some friends like maybe maybe this guy's an awesome dude she's just like i just need to like i'm not looking for your approval i'm not looking for that i'm just i need to show her that like hey i've got i've got people out there well yeah sarah and i have gone on multiple multiple like couple dates with friends of ours who now now have a new boyfriend or new girlfriend and literally it's like hey i just need some normal people to go out with because these people over here my

[40:03]roommates are disaster or my other friends i can't take them into a fancy place or you know things like that like multiple times i mean this this summer a couple times i've been golfing with a guy and he's a great dude but like the only reason i got it was like sarah and then this this gal she works with um her new boyfriend and they're engaged now kind of like that and then everything but congratulations like oh well this dude needs some friends will you will matt go golfing will you let matt go golfing with him on saturday and so then i got to go golfing it was

[40:31]fine and all this but you know only only so that they can prove that they've got some friends i think you're onto something russell the other thing i was gonna ask suzanne is and i could kind of use this advice too like had they only been dating for a few weeks a few months how long are we talking for and like maybe you can give me advice like at what point when you're seeing someone do you go and you take them and you introduce them to your friends is that like until you do that i found this to be a little early i think this was only like three or four weeks in i think i think six weeks is the exact time six weeks six weeks okay yeah

[41:04]yeah i just i just picked a random number but it sounds good i'm gonna stick well that's three weeks longer than i've ever had any woman talk to me so i someday i'll get there and invite you guys out for dinner so but was the wine any was the wine any good that he chose it was it was fair but you know what some of some of us at the table know a lot of things about it and i think it's about wine and we could have really helped with the decision in fact made that decision there are those of us at the table who really don't know about wine and i'm one of those people

[41:30]but some of those women really knew their shit so just lay back yeah trying to do a clean choice i i don't even know if i should tell this story but i'll tell it anyways i have made like a similar faux pas if you will a mistake it wasn't ordering wine actually i was this was years ago i was dating this woman and we went out on a date with her friends first time i had met her the friends similar type of thing suzanne and we can't the

[42:03]bill came it wasn't like super expensive or anything but the bill came and it just sat there for a while and there were four of us and it just sat there for like you know five minutes and finally i just took it and put my credit card in i was like oh i can just it's i'll just get it and someone saw it and like kind of snapped at me and said you are not paying for this whole thing like and it became like i don't know what to do with it i don't know what to do with it i don't a whole thing but so that was the time i feel like i overstepped my bounds i tried to pay for pay for too much one time no i don't i think you were very polite if no one picks it up for five

[42:32]minutes that's just weird yeah keep it snapping at you about that go cram it like this bill's been sitting here russ is taking charge russ is a take charge dude you know what i mean like he's he's he's you know he's i'm trying to think of a dirt joke that's not dirty and i can't do it when i played basketball in like high school in the intramural league that's all i did was take charges i had no other skills i just stayed there and i was like oh my god i'm going to do this and let people run over my ass and besides russell you can you can act like a baller right you throw that credit card down yeah they run it you make a huge give them a huge tip

[43:01]nope then you just run right home and you just uh you know cancel the charge i don't think that's a baller move though because suzanne the guy that was out with you he maybe he thought it was a baller move to order wine for everyone like he may have thought that that was a good move right he may have but he was wrong oh no well i don't i just don't want anybody to order from me like for example when i go out with rob and the the server comes by and he's like oh can we have more chips she's really hungry she wants to eat more chips and i'm like

[43:34]you're the one that said you wanted more chips yeah or you go through a drive-thru and he's like we're gonna have two filet-o-fishes and a couple milks please and they're like okay we have to call the cops we've been told that we have to call the police anytime anybody orders that combination they're gonna come up and do a psych eval on you no i have ordered a drink for suzanne before and she did flash me a look because she even ingest i know what she's gonna have i i said oh and she'll have blah blah and she flashed me a look that was

[44:02]straight daggers it was not good i should not have done that but you know what guys you know me i never ever apologize rob enough about us let's talk about you for a little while you guys fuck with buttonfly jeans what like oh i went to this i went to the levi store and i tried on some jeans and one of them was a buttonfly jeans love those i literally did not know what i was going to do like i couldn't button it i couldn't get it the buttons were so small i was like i don't know what's going on i love buttonflies what are you talking about what you just take forever boom you just

[44:32]rip it off it's awesome no i don't have trouble taking pants off rob i gotta give you a warning i don't think they make like super trendy clothes for bigger people because they don't want them wearing them so my guess is they probably don't have like buttonfly jeans that are going to fit me or you because they don't want us like whoever's making those clothes they don't want you and i wearing them they don't want us being the models for them out in the street i have no idea whether or not these buttonfly jeans fit me because literally it was five minutes of me trying to button the button it's that first button like that first button is a nightmare it's way down

[45:02]there in the bottom of the v that's hard to do if you don't have that one you should never that one always stays buttoned only open the top two that's oh see this is okay that's wise yeah when you're packing like i'm packing suzanne i gotta unzip i gotta unbutton okay okay i want to pull what uh what my friends have called mr two by four out i've got to unbutton them all you know that's why i stand that's why i always stand at the kids urinal and you know what

[45:30]actually calling it the kids urinal i'm gonna edit that out i only stand at the low urinal and then when somebody comes in is like why are you at the low urinal i'm like you know why what's up you need a pencil when you're when you go into the exactly yeah which one of the five of us on this podcast would be least likely to wear buttonfly jeans least likely oh i've got to go with russell i cannot see russell fucking with buttonfly jeans what about bat yeah i would yeah he could yeah he would be like oh family i gotta go i gotta

[46:01]go button my pants for the next half hour out the garage please don't come with me i'm sitting on this inflatable couch looking into the bedroom window you hear these unbuttonings happening yeah i would have an abs i would have had an absolute tantrum in the changing room there's no fucking way i could come up with that a tantrum and you know what i almost did aaron i thought of you i almost went home i almost went home and sat in the bathtub yes to see if it was erotic as you said it was after the show where

[46:30]you're like oh it's so erotic when you do that like it's so hot get those shrink to fits on man you're gonna feel stupendous i don't know i don't think people people i have never had anyone come up to me and say you know what i wish that your pants were tighter so rob you you went out with the purpose of buying button button up jeans or not no i just went out and then they were given to me and i was like mystified it was like a caveman with like a game boy i had no idea what's going on could not use it could not do anything it was pathetic i think too they laughed at me i

[47:00]think they saw me taking the button flies in and they probably like have a camera in there and they just laugh to see what it looks like that's like when you're the big guy and you're at one of the stores and you're like looking at the shirts they're like the ultra slim fit and then they walk by you're like nope that's just never gonna work for that guy you can look at those shirts all they want it's not gonna happen right all right well i was just gonna say i was mystified by the way men's sizing works we took our son to to go suit shopping and he needed a dress shirt and they're like what's his neck size i was like what what what are you talking about they took his neck

[47:31]size and and that gives you a shirt size excuse me like that is so random why don't you take my pinky size and give me my shoe size what like no i don't get it well because if you have if you have a tie and you know like the standard one like think of rosie and then like my neck is significantly fatter than rosie's right yeah we can probably wear about the same shirt size right you know but like i can i could not wear a tie like if i just went to banana republic and bought the shirt off the rack kind of a thing like it fit me but if i

[48:00]had to button up the tie and then i'd be choking to death you know i like that so like i can see the visceral disgust in matt's face just thinking about wearing a tie i tied a tie last weekend it took me three tries i was pretty proud only three tries nice what's your knot style aaron i don't fucking know i think it's a single windsor i'm not sure i usually go on youtube yeah it's just the simplest one possible have you ever tried to do a bow tie have you guys ever tried to do a bow tie no no it might surprise you assholes do you think we are okay well maybe uh somebody i know

[48:33]bought a bow tie because i thought it'd be really cool and then spent about oh i don't know a day and a half trying to tie one off youtube and it turns out it is impossible to do it is not i have an 18 i had an 18 inch neck in high school and my dad used to call me pencil neck because it was smaller than his like i'm in the family of like huge necks like yeah you're like the only guy who could who doesn't have to order the big and tall section in the family i'm still known as little rob in my in my when i go to family functions they're like hey little

[49:03]rob i'm like yes this is what i like more of this please well yeah because suzanne was like what size suit what does the size suit coat mean and i was like i actually don't know what to do with it i have no idea what it means i just know that i'm like chest size pretty much yeah it's like 40 whatever and that's your chest size you were 56 rob jesus i guess that's why you bench price 400 pounds yeah uh it's true but i'll tell you what after after this meet i am having to cut down 20 pounds to 308 so i would assume my next 12 rolling goings are going to be about me trying to lose

[49:31]weight it's going to be an absolute disaster i guess those chips those chips will be for me this time yeah yeah i'm going to just order them for you and then watch you eat them and like zap myself as i do it so i don't have to worry about it i'm going to just order them for you and then watch you ever suzanne i will say i will say real quick real quick i will say that when i finally figured out that like tailors are a real thing and there's something that you should actually spend a little bit of money on you know so like if your son has one suit that's tailored that's probably better than anything you can do you know in terms of trying to figure out a size or something so

[50:00]tailors are absolutely worth it but i didn't realize that till about two years ago so okay i don't know yeah knowledge all right let's get into the album part of the show cut it so i have there's i played that because there's a clip there of rosie saying i think it's my favorite part but then rosie was talking over it anyway so it made absolutely no sense so well let's play it again this is going along let's find out let's play one more time i refuse to

[50:31]play it again oh you're talking about this is my favorite part i love this shit alanis morissette had a career that few people could relate to she started her music career at age of 12 in canada she sharpened her singing and writing skills as a paula abdul type singer and dancer her first album went platinum and she toured with vanilla ice for a bit the release of her second album sold half as many copies and she was unceremoniously dumped by her record company this prompted to move to los angeles where she met producer and songwriter glenn ballard and over the course of 20 sessions they wrote and recorded jagged little pill they shopped the record around but the only company

[51:04]to bite was maverick records madonna's boutique record company however alanis became a household name as soon as her first single you ought to know was played on k-rock and the video became an instant mtv favorite the album got more popular she embarked on an 18-month tour producing six singles lasting on the billboard top 200 for over a year it ended up winning the grammy for best album and becoming a record that every 1990s high schooler owned and could relate to as they dated and broke up sometimes driving away fast

[51:31]as you ought to know blaring for their 1984 pontiac bonneville let's listen to jagged little pill i gotta say guys this record is a straight up 100 certified banger top listen to those first notes yes it's like dylan and petty and then she's gonna do her own thing her harmonica is way better than bob dylan's harmonica it's not even they're not even in the same and then it's kind of like eastern influence like oh it's so good you know what you know what i thought when

[52:03]i heard this i thought of matt matt always talks about sometimes albums like the first song it gives you you know exactly what you're going to hear on this album and when i heard this i was like i know exactly what i'm going to hear on this album like it just banger after banger like commercial hits all across it i knew exactly what i was going to hear i thought of you matt when i was listening to that first song even you know and i don't listen to lyrics but even that first right to have a female say do i stress you out you know from what from what was what music was

[52:33]in like the late 80s early 90s all the dance hits and pop and all that stuff like there wasn't i mean there's obviously some crossover right but there wasn't like this grungy um long-haired female who's wearing baggy clothes and has like some vans on stuff like that you know that you just didn't see that right and we saw courtney hole who's wearing dresses and all sorts of makeup and courtney love i'm sorry yeah courtney love wearing makeup and all that stuff but this was completely different and you and you're exactly right you got exactly what it

[53:03]from the first note and then the first line of the of the album so suzanne are you a huge alanis fan or why are you joining us tonight well apparently i'm only allowed to speak about women because rob only invites you for that doesn't he i'm only qualified to speak about women so i guess that means you guys are only qualified to speak about men so i'll do the talking from here on qualified about shit yeah main new main host no i yeah no i definitely list did you guys all listen to this for the first time for this podcast let's be honest no man these are these

[53:34]are commercial hits from we were teenagers no i'll tell the truth this is full of hits i know all of the singles because they were on the radio for our whole life but i had never listened to this album and we texted about this i had never heard her actually say the word fuck or chicken shit or any of that yeah all i heard were the radio edits so yeah for me this was the first i've heard the full album me dying me 69 me right none of that stuff and then you texted us boner alert and i we've told you don't text us that we don't like it when you send that because you sent us that playa fish and milk

[54:03]too and you're like boner alert and i was like truth i i and then and i actually should have sent my my wife tonight instead of me because she knows the whole album front to back full thing memorized and i only knew the i only knew the singles this album was a stay in the car cd for my sister like the entire time she was in high school this was the album that was in her car i heard this album millions of times with her suzanne what's what's your thoughts what's your like what's well um yeah no i love it it was it was great it's it's a it's it's a woman singing about

[54:36]all the feelings and all the you know all the moments and it just really hits something in me you know when she came out with this the rolling stone magazine put her on the cover and wrote angry white female you know and people just called her angry and all this and she said this is just me being expressive so if a woman is angry we get to get targeted we get labeled you you all i educated you all about the madonna horror complex you know

[55:04]all about that now yeah so but anyway so this is a woman who's empowered taking ownership of her sexuality and she's allowed to feel all the feelings and i love that it's great and i screamed along with her every single moment i love it well every chorus every chorus wails on this album every chorus just destroys yes so right i can imagine that like the anger might have spoken to time in your life but it doesn't strike me as angry now does it know does it sound angry to

[55:33]other people oh yeah i mean like this neck this next song rob play the neck i mean play the next you want to know i mean this is this is an angry this one sure song no true you know but that this is the first one so then everybody just instantly lumped her into angry white female kind of a thing and then i don't i mean i don't know if any of you guys watch this but hbo just put out a documentary on jagged little pill and alanis and one of the music uh critics i guess you would call this and she gets very known for like this song and being like a quote-unquote angry singer but

[56:04]most of her songs aren't of that tone and it's very little of what she's putting out so i think like she kind of gets pigeonholed unfortunately into that lane when most of her music isn't in that in that phylum right right and also what's wrong with a woman who is angry what what happens as we get what what do you call an angry woman that's what the whole b word bitch is right is there a word like that for men no i wonder why i guess i guess man i guess yeah holy shit you just blew my mind yeah yeah you really did

[56:37]what you blew my mind okay here i'll blow your mind again how many words are there to say slut in the english language yeah tons and how many are there for the male equivalent oh it's it's i definitely don't ever get called that none of us would have been all that we would have no experience with those words whatsoever because there's like three versus 45 infinite or more imbo is the only one i can think of

[57:06]okay oh i wasn't actually supposed to think of the word that you ought to know though is an absolute jam i was i was reading somewhere that how she kind of had recorded it once and then i don't know if it was flea and dave navarro heard it and they kind of came in and played bass and play guitar on it but like that song is just an absolute jam isn't it so good well at listen to the record just top to bottom it's just listen to the bass on this song i i was blown away

[57:33]listening to this i don't know if it's the remaster or what this entire album is crystal clear it's one of the best produced albums we've had yet it sounds so good let's just listen to the bass like you need oh of course this is a headphone album i didn't think it would be this is a headphone album it is yeah definitely but the bass on this is jamming the whole time i mean fleek i mean fleek can lay it down right like we know that totally it's it's just incredible next up we have perfect this every time i heard this it got me thinking about somebody

[58:05]i've never heard atlantis related to and that's joni mitchell this was huge joni mitchell vibes for me she does a lot of joni mitchell-esque stuff with her voice where she floats up into the stratosphere and then i mean the the big range like yeah that's exactly what my wife eileen said when we were listening to this yeah it this sounds just like i and i think it has to do with the way right here hold on there's a part where all of a sudden she gets just a little bit you can hear the

[58:32]oh we gotta find it you know hold on oh i don't know where we gotta find it but like all of a sudden you hear it and she gets just a it's just a little bit you can just hear a little bit of angst come into her voice a little bit and it's just it's great and again they talked about it on that hbo documentary that you know the person that was at the maverick record company that's this is the song that he heard first and all of a sudden when her voice does that you know and it's like oh well that's different

[59:03]you know because again like you've got this cookie cutter either you're a great voice whitney houston or you're a janet jackson you dance and you're performing all this stuff and this is completely to me you know like the mainstream uh cornfields middle america this is completely new right like this is just a different kind of music and it just i think it hit everybody at least the circle of people that i was in it hit them hit them hard as like oh i don't have to listen to janet jackson anymore like this is what i can

[59:33]listen to things like this and so and i think i like what you're saying man i think you hear her go to imperfect places to make a point and i think then maybe i don't know i'm wildly generalizing here but i feel like in a super simple simplistic sense you know this happened pretty soon autotune came along yeah you didn't hear that kind of sound anymore you didn't hear people go to the limits of their voice and then we hear beyonce do it on sandcastles right and i'm sure it happened in

[60:02]between but it for me those are like two big you know signposts and again i i knew this album very well you know before watching that documentary but you hear the documentary maybe we'll get into it a little bit about how third best-selling album of the 90s right here yeah yeah you know so she she was this she was the debbie gibson of canada right that's what they called her so the perfect hair dancey tunes supposed to be on radio things like that right everybody was telling her what to do you know she wrote a lot of her songs but the reason that she got cut by her

[60:33]former label is that she wanted to start writing different songs they wanted radio songs right she wanted to write something like jagged little pill and she was pushing back against that so i think half of this is you know i don't have to make a perfect song and to your point rosie it's intentional that she's making these different leaps into different kind of you know like i'm not don't put me in a box kind of a thing i'm doing exactly what i want to do and this is what came out as again russell said it's the third best-selling album of the 90s and i think the

[61:02]sixth best-selling album of all time and maybe the second best by a female if i had my information correct you know all time so yeah this thing's a monster it's huge the whole time i was listening i couldn't believe it's this low on the list we'll get into that later i mean it's not quite ratings time yet russell but oh this song here like this is bringing me right back to being a teenager and i loved it at the time and you listen to it now it's even better i'm just overwhelmed by this album it's so good it's so good yeah well i think a lot of this some of these lyrics they make a lot more sense to a 40 year old than

[61:34]they do like a 13 or 14 year old right but that's wild because she was like she was like 19 when she wrote this i mean that's wild i have a quiz for you guys so she's always talking about suzanne rob aaron matt she's got one hand in her pocket and the other hand is doing other things i want to see if you can get the five things that she is doing with her other hand there's one hand in her pocket what is she doing with the other hand can you get all five okay let's start matt name one

[62:02]uh hailing a taxi cab okay hailing a taxi cab she is that is correct suzanne give us one more holding a cigarette holding a cigarette it's actually flicking a cigarette but i'll give you that's right oh i would have missed that uh aaron what do you got playing a piano playing the piano is correct that's all right so i'll have one two more okay and i'm gonna go just like me at thanksgiving when i wanted some of that pumpkin hi i was making a peace sign throw me a piece over here you know rob was given a peace sign you guys have four or five can you get the last one what

[62:34]was she doing giving the middle finger giving a high five yeah wait she never gives the middle finger on this song right is there anything she was giving yeah yeah is there anything more satisfying than a great high five like when you have a high five and it just sticks and it's like i told you about my filet of fish right like what i mean i pictured a high five with aaron after that filet of fish is just all oily to kind of like

[63:05]you slowly hit each other and then it kind of oozes down his hand you're like oh that wasn't one of the worst over tartar sauce on the side of his hand but haven't you ever had like a bad high five oh my mom my mom gives the worst high fives oh my gosh does she go straight ahead what's yeah she pushes forward yeah oh no that's why the pot that's why the knucks pounds came into it it's really hard to mess that up you got to get a good slap in there right it's got to get a good slap i think a good high five too goes up i think when you touch it you go up have you ever

[63:35]done that like you you keep high-fiving and you add pressure and push up and then you kind of end like an eiffel tower it's good times robin suzanne what's the key to a good hailing of a taxi cab in new york how do you hail a taxi cab in new york i'm so good at that you don't even want to know good how are you good oh it's okay so you raise your hand in the air one finger up and you got to make eye contact with the driver oh okay because then they can't turn you down right yeah now

[64:00]you've made a connection or at least they'll feel bad about it they'll feel sad yeah what i do is i let somebody else hail and then i just hop right in and he's excuse me very important businessman okay off to wall street please and then as soon as i get in i'm like please no i'm going to the frozen yogurt place quick i gotta get there i've got to record a podcast i gotta get there right away right through you so this was a song basically to all the uh record companies that didn't sign her and kind of holding a grudge against them and saying hey

[64:30]i'm a zillionaire now you're gonna come crawling back to me and your name's not in the credits this is like this has some of the most clever wordplay on the whole album so it's not just because she's this wine 9 69 do you think they put this album in 69 just because of this song you think this was like a growing stone trying to be like worse absolutely yes otherwise it should have been way higher way higher way higher yes you think they put atlantis morissette as 69 as a joke that would be because she says you took me out to wine 9 69 me in this song to be fair aaron's not completely off there was a point where on the previous list the b-52s were ranked at 152 and so they

[65:06]haven't done something like this before it's not impossible do you guys remember when when when uh sea bass and dumb and dumbers were in that hat that says wine me nine but the best part is the the word that she the lyrics after that she said and you didn't hear a damn word i said yeah yeah so if the night probably didn't end with it probably was just wine and dine and the rest yeah but how could you how could you hear what they're saying you're wearing your noise canceling

[65:31]headphones like leonardo dicaprio you're not gonna hear anything give me my vape pen i'm doing the leo style over here babe i think a lot like uh jackanoff standing up i do think 69 is a young person's game i don't think there's a lot of couples that are together like 20 plus years and they're still like hey it's wednesday night it's time to 69 there's just a lot going on there's a lot that can go wrong there's a lot that's got to be clean i just don't think a 69 is a real i think it's just like a movie thing right am i wrong

[66:02]how many movies everyone's laughing aaron's listening very intently like he's examining this with you right now i'm thinking like yeah i guess yeah i guess you're right like things gotta be clean that's true no i'm just thinking like obviously this is rob's wednesday night thing maybe it's just him but i'm just saying if you went right now and said your spouse hey let's 69 i would get laughed at you gotta wine them and dine them yeah you're gonna you need a better term than that like you can't just be like let's 69 i don't think i mean i don't know i haven't

[66:31]tried it but oh you know aaron says mutual oral sex aaron that you dog you dirty dogs using that respectful mutual oral sex you're so smart hey babe you want to have intellectual intercourse let me finish this milk and flame fish oh my god i'm so sick i can't do anything i'd have to lie down for two days forget about it uh then do you guys have though i i do have some towns that didn't hire me when i was growing up and i still hold up my middle finger every time i drive through moose lake i mean i used to be mad

[67:00]about like people who didn't hire me as a singer but i'm actually not a good singer so like i'm over that yeah that's fine aaron you know i gotta be honest it really pisses it pisses me off when you say you're not a good singer like really badly because like you're the best singer i know so when you say you're not good it reflects on me and myself so could you not do that anymore yeah we don't need to do that like i'm not a good singer i'm not a good singer i'm not a good singer i'm not like i went to one of your i went to like multiple recitals i know to see you sing so when you say you suck makes me feel bad about myself i'm not do it anymore i'm sorry for wasting your time russell the deal was i didn't make enough sound i was pretty good i just didn't make enough sound like

[67:34]no one's gonna hire me to sing with an orchestra i just pursued the right i'm sorry russell i didn't mean to offend your sensibilities matt yeah well i just i want to go back to the song right through because i i heard it a little different than i think you guys are i mean like again let's watching that documentary yeah as a 15 year old i think her parents basically like sent her to toronto right like like here you go here's your career wow and she was absolutely taken advantage of yeah um i think professionally and then you know

[68:02]socially as well and she never comes out says that she was raped anything like that but she absolutely was taken advantage did she i don't know if she did i think it's very much implied in the documentary very much implied that's why i want to make sure that's implied right but this whole thing about the seeing right through you like after she's 15 you know she just starts to like think that this is just normal then she kind of comes to a place where she says this is not you know this is absolutely effed up you're right and now she's starting to see right through all these people like oh you want to take me out to dinner and

[68:32]you know again wine me dine me 69 you know you want to you want to play cool oh yeah i'm your best friend and then you want to you know try to take take me back to your hotel room things like that like i think she's absolutely like has grown up really fast in a really shitty environment yeah you know and a lot of these songs are coming out and she was she was in an all-male you know all the all the other um instrumentalists were men um she was surrounded by guys older older men and i read something about how this

[69:03]song was possibly about when she was a 14 year old um an executive at a record company took advantage of her or assault of her i'm not sure the details and that this song may be about that it it i i highly recommend people need to go check out the hbo documentary about it it just came out a week or so ago but there's part of it too where you were talking about like her band all being men so she's backed by four um the her whole band is men and an interesting part

[69:30]of the documentary they're talking about how they're out on the road and she's singing these songs that have like all these meat like real meaning to people about like her independence i think it's her having a voice right but she's singing all these songs and then she's got these four bandmates that are just like picking up groupies left and right yeah and so there became like a tension on the tour at some point where it's like i'm singing these songs i've got all these girls coming to my concert and then i've got four bandmates behind me that are out like trying to pick up every groupie they can it's just kind of a weird dynamic but everyone has to check out the documentary it's a

[70:02]it's a good interesting to watch you will view that you will listen to the music differently i think matt you kind of reference it yeah you hear it differently you listen to it differently once you watch that did they send the drum machine out on tour with her too or what because that that's an unofficial fifth member of this band like there's so much drum machine in the south like if the drummer was picking up groupies people weren't listening to the music now the drum machine was also picking up groupies and that was part of the problem okay because it was kind of a robot situation yeah it walked around you know but again like the the band

[70:34]was a touring band right so like musicians that that created the whole thing and then they had to like oh we got to find four people to be my backup band essentially so you know there's even some tensions there like no this is you know this is my shit you know i you i hired you to just be at my tour she's you know that kind of a thing you know and so but as a 19 year old she had to learn to be a boss right people are telling her like you got to be a boss you know i think she absolutely listened to this album and you realize it's written by a 19 year old

[71:02]and you're blown away until you realize that that's like her seventh year in the music industry like she's she was a veteran by then it's yeah this is her third album right yeah here we have forgiven oh my god she turns it out on this one holy shit this is all about the guilt of her growing catholic and then kind of going through all this stuff rob never went blind for the things he did rob suzanne so there's a broadway in new york right now jagged little pillow you guys went to

[71:32]see the musical at all or not my wife did with her friend and she said that i should never ever go see it because as she said there are a lot of emotions in it and she knows that when things have a lot of emotions i don't do well every year every year you don't do well that google ad comes on right where us a year in review and they're like it makes you cry like crazy it's like here's all the big news things here's all the really sad things here's all the really happy things it's like do you guys know what i'm talking about it's like a three minute google ad i don't care if you know

[72:00]what i'm talking about or what it's it's the saddest thing and then at the end it just goes google oh yeah i always tell my kid i go look at these ads trying to get emotional and then it's for like duracell batteries it's i don't need that shit i am not buying fucking batteries because you are talking about how much you're helping people i am by that's not what i want i do not play with my emotions i get the same way when i go to like a musical if it's emotional or sad or talking about angst i don't need it well if you like this album then you are comfortable with emotion oh i'm comfortable with the motion okay i i i have all my emotions all the way from angry to mad

[72:37]right like those i i have the whole span of emotions you're a man yeah i i can dial into those at any time okay and if something strange happens i don't know how to feel i just shove it down and guess what it eventually goes away it's not a big deal so when when when rob when i went out to visit rob in new york suzanne also didn't come to meet me that was kind of unfortunate rob and suzanne both didn't come to meet me the one night because rob got too drunk on halloween rob didn't even tell me you were there and i saw

[73:04]i saw i walked through broadway and i saw the jagged little pill i saw the the the arena what do you call that the theater arena that and um i read that they that that has got 15 tony nominations for the year it premiered and i believe it was about 2018 but i thought we could maybe do a list about the greatest songs ever that have inspired broadway musicals could we do a list oh we can absolutely you know we can do a list i definitely wasn't surprised by that another list about russell

[73:34]and his broadway shows okay because i just went to oklahoma a week ago i was like i'm i'm all about the broadway plays or a broadway guy now let's be clear the guy who just said he's way into broadway plays is the same guy that last time was thinking about taking the show and he was like taking off at intermission but he was sitting up front so he couldn't leave it was really long it was really long violent these winds keep coming down these planes forget about it all right first

[74:01]song on the list this is from a band who just put out a new song this is abba mama mia check this see now this musical i loved no emotions whatsoever humor great music i'll take it right up my alley didn't have to think didn't have to feel love it rob it ran on broadway 14 years made it the ninth longest running show on broadway history yeah ninth longest and it should have a fucking rocks the fact that we haven't had an abba album yet is a disgrace you put on their greatest hits it's some of the greatest songs most singable

[74:34]songs they are straight up bangers i love those tits have you ever listened to a whole abba album i haven't either so i mean i can't say but you guys abba people are abba i call it abba probably probably abba oh i think i said abba because that's a rap that's how i say it he's the main host man i gotta get on board i got in trouble last week for talking while he's talking so i gotta just do a rap dose you know what i got i got in trouble today for eating milk duds i mean i got you know the thought in my head that i like something i

[75:03]don't know you guys are bringing up a strange feeling in me called regret well time to shove that down uh that's on abba's fault right if we don't know how to pronounce her name that's their fault get a real name guys yeah definitely get a real name they are i saw they are doing like they just released like this new album right and they're doing a concert have you guys seen with avatars yeah it was like avatars like they're not even it's their old selves wait did you guys say avatars are they not called avatars they really missed out if they're not avatars so

[75:33]they're dressed are you telling me they're dressed like those big blue people and then they have sex by putting their tails together i gotta go see this abba show right now my understanding is it's the singers but they're they look like they looked 40 years ago because i don't think they've released 30 or 40 years and so you go to a concert you see them from 40 years ago singing these songs now that's just sad i mean that says a lot about how we feel about age just bring them out come on right and it's not like your wife wants to get a pillow with a picture of you on it when you're 25

[76:04]and as a christmas gift like a full-size pillow that's not what's happening in my house so it's my avatar she's like this is a pillow that looks like you and it's soft just like and i'm like okay i get it next up on the list this one also won a tony this is billy joel moving out inspired a broadway musical tony winning an absolute jam of a song this ran for three years from 2002 to 2005 on

[76:34]broadway and actually this guy i never knew this these are called jukebox musicals did you know that i call jukebox musicals where essentially it's featuring music from an album on broadway i thought that was pretty cool billy joel billy joel very important in my life when are we when do we get to billy joel don't don't look it up hopefully someday before this boy matt won't we've asked him like three times in the last three shows it looks up and then he just kind of sits right he just stares yeah but i won't be i

[77:00]won't be allowed to speak about him because he's not female oh right you know what suzanne we'll have you on the business this is what happens he's a new york guy maybe you could come on for that oh yeah we'll invite him have you ever seen billy joe in concert or not have you ever seen his russia show where he was in russia and he kept yelling at them to turn down the house lights because he didn't want to see the audience that he was singing to oh it's one of the funniest shit because he's like he's like that's what it's all about turn off the fucking house lights what the fuck are you doing with the lights turn that shit down it's just like screaming during the

[77:32]song it was kind of like it was kind of like you could picture him as like a parent like right that's what i'm moving what are you doing over there what are you supposed to be doing right now you told me you had homework to do that's it well suzanne you can come back in uh 100 albums because 169 is the stranger by billy joe that's the only one there was like five on the last on the last list i think he was like a top he might have been like 51 or 52 on the last list but all the way down to 169 thanksgiving 2023 we'll see you then this is gonna be a great time

[78:03]this show is definitely still gonna be going we won't have quit by then and all not talk to each other we're gonna make it through well if you get rid of the l and billy joel you get billy joe who is the lead singer for green day and green day actually had american idiot had a broadway show tony award winning did you guys know that oh yeah it's huge is it big rob yeah it was when uh this came out i actually prayed so i was in i was in uh a bridge league in vermont i played competitive

[78:34]bridge oh my god how competitive was it uh well it was rob talk about bridge one more time it was it was competitive enough can we not go one episode without rob talking about his fucking hey how about you guys play the dummy and you don't get to say anything and i will tell you uh this conversation trumps what you're doing uh so here's the deal is that i played competitive bridge i got my ass kicked routinely by multiple 70 year olds but one of them they did have a

[79:01]grandkid who was like a stagehand for the show american idiot and he said that the kid said that the green day guys were just some of the nicest people you could ever meet like they were like they just were great on the show they did a great job handling it well it turns out that the producer because everyone thought that that was going to flop on broadway but it turned out to be really successful and it turns out the producer for american idiot on broadway was also the producer that helped bring jagged little pill to broadway i thought that was very interesting oh they've got it they've got it figured out there they just take the albums that they fucking loved in the 90s

[79:32]they're like here's what i'm picturing right i'm picturing that a person comes in off the street like this is the next musical that you're like this is good you're going to go to the thing and have to sit there to the show and be like oh yes this does relate to this person's life we should give them a tony for this that was a good bit don't look like that i was just listening to the song man i like the drums on that one okay this was the song i was going to pick what about a musical about this you could play all of eiffel 65's hits it would be the shortest musical of all

[80:10]yeah there would be no intermission i wouldn't have to worry about trying to leave early i'd just be like this song sucks we're out of here you go in there you sit there you're like okay well see you guys later that was great did we finish russell's list already no next up on the list is this is the lead song from a very very popular musical that started in 2005 it's still

[80:30]playing the musical is rock of ages the first song in rock of ages is come on feel the noise by quiet riot oh you have you seen rock of ages or not no no yeah that was a movie came out with tom cruise right well it's also a broadway musical that was nominated for a tony for best musical now can you guys tell me and i and i swear to god i'm not making a joke okay i'm take please take this as seriously as you can why is come on feel the noise spelled c-u-m feel the bad spellers

[81:05]n-o-i-z-e did they mean like you can't just spell come like that and not have some sort of ulterior motive right no right i know when i said rob my list i spelt it the way i thought it should be spelt and i noticed that the youtube link was spelled differently yeah the word come that's the that's a legit one i mean originally until they were sued by dominoes i mean let's come on feel that noise that was too much they couldn't do that oh no

[81:30]avoid the noise because you bust all right last song on the list last song on the list suzanne almost laughed at that one oh i almost laughed so hard i passed out just thinking his little clay face and his little look of disgust i'm like avoid the noise look of this just his little sad little clay face as i bust all right go ahead sorry the last on the list this musical opened in the middle of the pandemic october of 2019 it closed it just

[82:05]reopened we're gonna all have to go see this this is tina turner the song is proud mary which is the last song in the musical jeez man she could rock tell me you wouldn't want to go see this yeah my cousin saw this and said it was amazing man is the person who plays tina can they hit the notes like she does or yeah apparently i don't know okay was it good did she say it was good she said it was amazing incredible

[82:33]aaron who do you do you think aaron if i have to ask your professional opinion do you think that broadway singers would have a better chance of winning the award for the best song in the music scene because i think that's the thing i think broadway is a better voice than your average pop star like could you you could find singers that could sing tina turner right because they're better singers than tina turner right than a pop star i don't that's a hard call i i don't know i don't know enough about broadway i mean i think both broadway and pop music people have to look a certain way they have to be able to move they probably need some kind of power behind their

[83:03]career so i okay i'm waiting for you to get to one thing that shows i could be a broadway star yeah you could be a broadway star anytime okay can you dance can i dance i mean and you're good then you're in russell let's ask russell that question russell can i dance you can dance i was at a wedding this weekend and i danced the entire time and when everybody asked me my mother-in-law asked me my kids asked me they said how were you out on the dance floor i literally was on the dance floor like three and a half hours that's

[83:32]all i did how are you out there this long and i said nobody has ever gone on their deathbed and said oh i wish i would have danced less like what am i gonna do am i gonna sit at a table and talk to these bozos that i just spent the whole dinner talking to cut a rug no get on the dance i have been to a wedding before with rob it was not this last weekend or it may have been this last weekend but i've been to weddings with rob and he does cut up and dance floor he is out there the whole time like he's a great dad his daughters are probably out there dancing the whole time he's out there making the dance floor

[84:02]i can attest to this this is true and i can tell you yeah suzanne's seen me chaperone middle school dances you want to see me cut up a rug that's when you start dancing like nobody's watching that's right everyone is watching their teachers dance and you cannot make a mistake or they will make fun of you but that's just rob because you like going up and like breaking up kids you're like i'll break it up over there break it up over there that's true that's my favorite thing to do russell you're right just breaking up kids grinding at a school dance i just love it uh but i will say at this wedding i went to one of the most offensive things i've

[84:35]ever seen at a wedding happen and that was they played and you're hearing it in the background right now this is how we do it and nobody was on the dance floor but by montel jordan by montel jordan dance so this is how we do it i was the only one showing people how to do it and you know how i started the dance oh the same way the video starts you watch that this is how we do it video when the music starts a guy walks in holding his sandwich way up in the air and going like this with the sandwich

[85:02]as he walks past the camera it's the same dance move i did getting that sandwich up in the air showing everybody this is how we do it we go to a house party we bring our own sandwiches we're just we're rocking when i go to weddings i try to watch rob dance and i live and i learn you live and you learn that's that's how you do it this is our fifth single off the album third in the top 10 man i mean there really is something about having an album sung by a woman and written

[85:31]by a woman you get this such a unique viewpoint that we haven't gotten on any album really since jody mitchell right have we had another i guess kate bush there's another female singer oh well okay suzanne do you have a favorite song on the album or so far now what's what's your jam on this one what's your favorite song that's a really hard question there's a lot of tens aren't there so true so true i don't know speaking of tens i mean this is what aaron's

[86:03]talking about when he thinks about 10 he's got 10 little toes he wants to put them in his mouth he's gonna put his head over those feet once again not a true thing okay but this is real though what's your favorite love this song what's your favorite love this song this is the point on the album where i'm like can we can i have a human play the drums i can't do the drum programming anymore we're only halfway through i love this album i'm gonna talk about it later but this is like this is screaming out like i

[86:32]want to hear this whole thing and i'm sorry i only know male drummers but i just want to hear the whole thing re-recorded with bernard pretty pretty i don't want to do the goddamn drum machine anymore sorry i just want i want to say one thing about this song oh the line the line i know you do um she says you asked how my day was and that's supposed to be such a big deal this this woman i i feel bad for her she and like many women who have been

[87:00]mistreated it's like this is a song about how great this guy is and she's fallen in love with him all he did was ask how her day was come on it's a low bar that's a little far for for us i need i'm gonna write that down for the next how does that go how was your day how was your day that's yeah you gotta go up from that that's true that's all right mary jane mary jane so take this moment mary jane no this album is so good like at first when i listened to this

[87:32]the first time through i listened to this numerous times at first i was like this might be my least favorite one and then you listen a few times like this song is an absolute crusher everything on album is destroys right yeah yeah i mean it's tough when you put up a song and then the song after this is ironic like it makes everything else look small but compete with us right yeah this album i played this putting up the christmas tree today that's how much i enjoyed it i was like

[88:00]putting up the christmas tree listen to ironic the perfect holiday so i once again like i said i only know this from the singles what was the biggest hit on this album like not not billboard i mean i know we could look it up on billboard but i couldn't decide for me whether ironic or you ought to know was the biggest hit i think for me you ought to know is the ubiquitous one but maybe i'm maybe i'm i think there's i think there's three or four of them i think there's a lot of them i think i think ironic though is the one that is yeah okay yeah i mean that video alone i mean they're you know they've got the car and they've got the four different

[88:31]versions of her there's nothing i would love more than singing along with myself with four different outfits four different hairdos like suzanne i interest you in this time machine idea listen we've been kicking around this idea for a time machine okay i like how all of us are going back in time and kissing ourselves okay all of us by the way said that and suzanne would go back and sing with herself i love that idea oh yeah there's i mean it looks like so much fun i do have an important story to tell about while we're listening

[89:00]to this song so the other day of my neighbor he's an old man and he turned 98 and he actually won the lottery what and he died the next day and he turns out he left me all of his money as will oh yes tonight i'm celebrating with a gorgeous glass of oaky shard god damn it there's a black fly in my chardonnay okay so we know that you don't actually have any chardonnay or a black fly so what did you replace those with i got red wine i don't want to drink chardonnay so i'm drinking red wine there's a fly in it i've got maple syrup and i put a chocolate chip in there like i

[89:33]a little too ironic all right just like me much of my mom's disappointment not the doctor another one you don't expect this is going to be your one of your favorites on the album and it's a destroyer yeah it's great yeah yeah she's like i'm not gonna fix you i'm not gonna take care of you she's this is what feminism is all about it's like i'm an independent woman i want to be with you um but we're not going to merge as one i'm not going to take care of you take me as i am

[90:05]she wants to be her own person yeah hmm that was deep that's the smartest thing anyone's ever said these guys are so terrified of me these guys are absolutely terrified of me when you say something profound like that they are just like please rob shut up don't say a word after that you know you're gonna have to edit out whatever joke you make we figured there was don't do it

[90:31]coming there they're acting they're acting like you and i don't hang out suzanne they're acting like i don't say things to you where you say oh please don't ever say that again to my face okay ah the lady will have a margarita extra salt please wake up oh no matt you're a construction guy what do you think of this is the closer on this album you know the last two songs i to me it's the problem that the other ones are so iconic that i think you could just kind of listening to it now they kind of drop off for me because

[91:02]they're so iconic the five or six that that rosie would know as he said because he heard him on the radio kind of a thing did you mean ironic i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know did i say moronic more ironic more ironic that's yeah the contraction is moronic you're right yeah um no so it's just listening to it now it falls off a little bit to me right and there's no there's no reason i mean the songs are still great uh but i think i just it kind of falls

[91:30]off because i don't know them from listening to them as much as i did on the radio all right let's get into everybody's favorite part of the show because it's the end this this is a pretty good back half if you think about it you've got like head over feet you've got mary jane ironic this is all on the b side of the album that's a pretty epic b side of the album and i love not the doctor yeah this yeah this is one of the few albums we've done in the last i don't know half dozen where i could say oh this is in the top 20 i would easily believe it this is a almost a top 10 for me like it's i i guarantee next time on

[92:05]this list it's not going to be wine i'm dying i'm 69 i'm uh that's just the way it is uh listen so the rating system suzanne okay i know you listen every week and definitely last time you were on you didn't uh fumble this completely uh and not uh pay attention to what's going on by the end i think as you said i just listened to the parody songs and then i shut it off those are my favorite parts they're very clever and good never said that uh so here's the deal is this a rolling well toned at 69 okay everybody thinks this is right where it belongs 70 ugh too high 68 i don't think

[92:35]so uh this is perfect at 69 it is an absolute uh masterpiece but not that good or is this a rolling grown okay you did not like this album it should be higher on the list now of course higher on the list in this case means lower down on the web page but it would be a higher number okay actually it would be higher up on their web page so ignore what i just said it's higher up on their web page it's also a higher number so it all makes sense or is this a rolling really grown or rolling what's my other one rolling drone you fly

[93:06]this thing way up high rolling drone or was it rolling bone this is never should have been back at 69 we should have covered this way earlier we should have had suzanne back as a guest way before this one this is an absolute disaster why is it at 69 it should be at 68 67 66 63 maybe up in the top 20 like i heard some smart guys say earlier uh suzanne uh let's actually start with you what do you think

[93:32]is this a rolling well toned rolling boned or rolling grown bone why do you say that suzanne it's awesome it's it's that simple i think that's that makes and because of course the list does not do justice to the women and people of color but putting all that aside this album stands alone as just awesomeness aaron what do you think rolling well toned rolling boned or rolling grown same rolling bone this thing is a absolute monster it as russell said it's full of tens i

[94:05]mean um there are so many songs on here that i don't know how to describe it but it's a incredible song songs that we knew by heart whether we bought the cd or not uh i got beef with some of the drum programming on it but all that aside i think no come on i think i think that this thing is an absolute monster it's far better than a lot of stuff we've heard so rolling boned russell i'm just picturing like i'm just picturing like a rolling stone write-up and it's

[94:32]like album's very good drum machine too much everybody's like what is he talking about russell what do you think rolling well toned rolling boned or rolling grown or you know what i'll let you give it a rolling drone if you want i'm gonna look at from where why did your voice get low why did your voice get low with the drone that doesn't make any sense i think this is obviously a very influential album for a lot of artists and i think that's a really a relatable album for a lot of people i think it's probably very relatable for women but i think you listen to the lyrics it can be relatable for everyone i think the lyrics are great bass guitar is amazing the chorus is just

[95:04]crushed there's just there's a lot of stuff that's going on in there that's going to be there's just commercial hits all over this how many albums have we listened to so far where there are like no hits on it this has got them from top to bottom this is rolling grown it should be way higher on the list and guys i gotta i got an update for you this made it into my top five i had to do a an actual you guys know i like to do lists i like to score things the fifth album

[95:30]on my top five was amy winehouse back to black oh wow i went back and i listened to amy winehouse one i scored every song on a scale of one to ten amy winehouse got an 8.27 average this album here 8.66 it knocks amy winehouse out jagged little pill is now in my top five albums of all time this is rolling grown it needs to be way higher on this right you mean rolling boned oh no russell can i ask you this yeah when you're going on a date in the next couple weeks are you going to

[96:01]tell any of your dates about your numeric rating system of different albums comparing amy winehouse and alanis morissette is that going to be a conversation that comes up well rob i may or may not have one of my dates participated in my ranking system oh no oh russell time to go buy a ring because that is the one person in the world who would do that with you lock it up yeah you gotta lock that down seriously rolling bone way higher way higher on the list oh i thought you were talking about your date again uh rolling well toned rolling bone or rolling grown matt

[96:32]what do you think i think you got rolling boned i think you know we look again the construction of the list as we've brought up numerous times how can you app how can you rank this against uh you know john coltrane things like that right well i think you do it by the influence that they have um you know us growing up when we grew up uh kind of starting to listen to music in the early 90s if you will you know for me it's pearl jam and urbana and red hot chili peppers and all of them just got away from hair metal and i thank god they don't have to listen

[97:03]to hair metal anymore because i've got this well to me this album made me not have to listen to whitney houston anymore you know i'm offending rosie here oh you know things like that but like you know the poppy you know uh perfect um perfectly constructed albums you know that were out there just for radio things like that you know this this album i clearly remember it's just like yeah you know this is great this is this is what i want to listen to i don't want to listen to other stuff so

[97:30]uh had a huge influence on my musicality kind of growing up if you will where i know we've talked about it at length i could go on for so much longer to talk about and everything else that was constructed again to russell's point go see the or take some time and watch the documentary because it's awesome on hbo um so all of that to say that it's rolling bone should be way higher i'm picturing matt at home and his mom is like matt go fold that laundry and listen to that whitney houston he's like i don't want to do anymore i hate both

[98:00]i'm so tired of the bodyguard soundtrack man listen to this whitney houston i like he's got an atlantis cassette in the whitney houston cassette case he like takes out places like nobody knows guys unfortunately you were incorrect this is a rolling relation ships okay this is an album that you was essential listening as soon as you started dating in the 90s and the first time you got dumped or maybe like the third time you got dumped you just realized like oh yeah atlantis knows this is exactly what i'm feeling and i'm telling you we're going through

[98:34]that in my house right now because my oldest one is not getting dumped she's not dating but she is become a gigantic taylor swift fan and i cannot believe that atlantis is not compared more to taylor swift it's it's such a similar vibe of like my daughter is literally learning what it's like to be in a relationship through songs she's knowing how to feel what about olivia olivia rodrigo rodrigo rodrigo excuse me yeah i think it's it's that same idea of like these strong

[99:04]female singer songwriters and and me having a 12 year old you know female growing up in this house it's been a giant influence my daughter has such strong opinions about jake gillenhall has never seen any of his movies she hates the guy cannot stand him and i'm all for it listen next up we've got the first rap album to ever hit platinum guys oh we got an appointment with the doctor we're gonna see eazy-e and let's put some ice cubes in this drink because they're

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