Kate Bush: Hounds of Love (1985)

[00:00]in 2020 four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums as decided by rolling stone magazine this resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music excoriated the order and led us to making this podcast we are far from experts and we promise to do almost no research all opinions are our own unless you disagree please sit back and enjoy beck did it better this is album 68 hounds of love uh hey aaron you do me and i'll owe you one album 68 hounds of love by kate bush guys let's get back to our roots let's not oh aaron don't it's a

[00:34]compliment uh let's get back to our roots and just turn on k-rob there's no no you know we don't have to do a bit every time like we don't have to think of something very clever and then like oh why are we turning on the radio oh we're going downstairs look at aaron's basement oh what's in aaron's basement oh wow it's just a bunch of feet with a bunch of red threads connected together it's like the psycho's basement but it's just all pictures of feet all right let's check it out i don't think aaron has a basement i do not ob listen this is

[01:00]coming at you and wolfman rob is in a little bit of a legal problem right now due to a legal problem soft scam that was run at him at a karaoke bar where he's gonna be four years and then it was ten times that much i listen back then that's way worse than it was not a long time he does think he shouldn't have to pay if he doesn't want to oh yeah i was at karaoke and i thought we made a deal they charge they charge so much money

[01:32]and my wife she didn't say no to them even though i wanted her to do some quick thinking now we know it's a story that's when i said we should call the credit card and tell them we don't want to pay it money we owed for running up that bill well it was mostly jenny who said it mostly jenny

[02:05]in fact if you were looking at this from a legal perspective you could say my wife was in charge and she forced me not to pay the bill again it's not like i was an accomplice or anything it was actually mostly her when you want to hear about the greatest something right she's guilty he's guilty right

[02:33]listen that was not only a song it was also kind of a testimony i don't know if you guys heard that uh precedence you know we're getting into holidays it's always good to get your wife precedence beck did it i listened back to that too and i felt like we are doing the top go ahead are you seriously fucking over talking under me right when i start i was talking over you not under you over you i always set myself to a couple decibels above aaron in the mix so everybody knows who's who's

[03:04]the main host here uh welcome everybody to better we are talking about the top 500 albums we are all the way up to 68 uh which doesn't seem that high unless you realize we're doing one a week so this has been over a year of our life that we've devoted to this and today we are talking about hounds of love by kate bush you know guys it's really interesting this this this album like kate bush wrote all these songs she sang all the songs i mean she pretty much did everything herself i don't know if you've heard of her but she's a great singer she's a great singer she's a you know exactly how she feels i got russ in minnesota russ how are you doing

[03:31]wait what yeah is it time for the ratings russ how are you doing guys if only i could i'd make a deal with steve that steve and i'd get him to swap our places so then i could run up roads so i could run up hills so i could go on walking dates without sweating profusely if only i could i've got matt matt minneapolis how are you doing matt great rob thanks for having me and i've got aaron love that energy by the way i've got aaron

[04:02]out in california aaron how are you doing today rob take my shoes off and throw them in the lake i'm excited to talk about this album excellent don't know what that means love it though i think it's great aaron doesn't even know we're doing a podcast he was just saying that he's like oh okay uh today guys instead of i'm not gonna lie the backslide is is empty we've hit zero uh well no i was good that's not what i said okay that's not what i was gonna say what i was gonna say was rock bottom uh the the back the back line is not well it's not not great today so we have an

[04:34]alternate idea that we're going to do all right so today we are going to do a brand new segment on the show nice i like new segments and that is uh we're going to call this uh rob's birthday suit everybody let's get in your birthday suit birthday suit yeah this seems this seems bad no this is good this is a good segment we've all got towels with you in your birthday suit we are going to do a little bit of contest

[05:04]okay and the winner and the winner does not get sued by us and we're going to see who had the best song on their 16th birthday now we are going to go to the website www.birthdayjams.com now i was disappointed in this site because i did uh go here hoping to buy my wife some jams on her birthday jams and i was like oh my god i'm going to go to the website www.birthdayjams.com and i was like oh my god i'm going to go to the website www.birthdayjams.com okay and it turns out instead it will find you the number one song on any day that is the plan

[05:30]who has the best 16th birthday jam i have not checked this out before we are going to see so here is mine may 13th everybody just in case you let a becker becker maniacs out there want to send me a gift heads okay you can send a guess of what it is rob or not for for all i know it was whatever was on the oldies channel because that's all i was listening to i mean there's gotta be chumbawamba's 96 right chumbawamba oh my god i know it's gotta be early hey rob what's the what's the last four of your social security just i'm trying to i'll try it is six nine six nine a lot of people don't

[06:03]okay that's a surprising thanks rob what moons what moons were you born in middle middle initial what's the middle initial y'all great here we go find hit song for may 13th 96 yes no this can't be beaten there's no way picture rob say that getting my license right when i turn 16 turning on the radio oh what's the number one hit okay oh it's bone thugs don't like that i'm

[06:30]gonna turn it back to the oldies station oh i almost hit a car true story but i took my first drive after i got my license almost just t-bone somebody how are any of us gonna compete with this well you're not and maybe that was the point of this is that i knew what song i had so that's why i picked 16th birthday and i am indeed uh going to win bone thugs in harmony aaron why is that song so good it's so good because it just like they started out with the oh mary don't you weep the mary don't you weep the gospel they're bringing in all that gospel influence but they got the new inflections and the sing-song rap and they're bringing the west

[07:01]coast and the midwest together is just perfection right and anytime you're thinking about death and you can make it sound fun it's great oh my god i think the rap ballad too you know it's just there's nothing better than the rap ballad tupac's got a number of them biggie's got a number of you know i think that just puts i'll be missing you my puffy right all right aaron let's see when is that song was so overplayed i went went out on a date with a

[07:30]woman and after our first date she texted me and she said can you let me know the day you were born the month you were born the year so your birthday yeah and the exact time you were born because she wanted to do some sort of astrological search to whether we were compatible or not oh wow just give her a fake one right was her dad also the king of nigeria at any point because i can tell you if she starts wanting itunes gift cards russell you're in big trouble okay two three dates most max that's it i'm still waiting for that inheritance i haven't it hasn't come through to my checking account yet i think there's something

[08:02]wrong with the wire transfer so good aaron give me your birthday let's find out when your birthday jam what your january january yeah january 18th january 18th year as you robert all right january 18th let's check out what is aaron's birthday jam if these are all bone thugs by the way by the way i didn't think about this not gonna work if it's all the same oh wait this is also about death what is it what was going on in 1996 yep you know this is a lot of shootings this is

[08:34]the biggie yeah this is the biggie tupac influence yep what song is it this is one sweet day by mariah carrie and boys to men and this has like the one person in the world other than other than who was willing to go toe-to-toe with mariah oney morris he went off he was like i gotta have my spot against mariah couldn't hold a candle watching this video i realized how much i thought mariah this is bringing me back to mariah carrie being hot in videos i know i sold you guys out when we did

[09:03]the winter one and she's just in the red snowsuit the whole time but she was so hot in videos like this she's just in jean shorts and converse and a white t-shirt oh boys to men were amazing back in the day but i i kind of had a moment with boys to men where i remember like motown philly they were very it was fast it was like kind of rap-ish and then and then they got into all these ballads you know i'll make love to you yesterday all those things in it i kind of like when you were a 16 year old guy it kind of like am i allowed to still

[09:32]be a fan of boys to men or are they too much like singing love songs the whole time did you guys ever go through that or not that's the whole r&b kind of thing right yeah slowing down the jams i mean i mean you know dances at richfield high school in 1996 were just filled with boys to men yeah you know me i never i never i never faltered i never strayed from boys to men but i was a you know i was a nerd so guys i didn't want to do this to you but we have a guest coming on the zoom call it's the guy with the deep voice from boys to men where's he been nobody's seen him

[10:07]in girl 15 years how are you guys doing girl out there i just want to say how much i love you guys and i want to say that i'll never be untrue to you i got so many questions for this guy deep voice guy i want to know how it's going at your tour in vegas for like the last 15 years you guys have been performing there girl i just wanted to tell you that motown philly is back again for the last 25 years we have

[10:33]been down there uh boys to men is now we just called men to old men uh is the name now we mostly are eating crab legs and uh living in vegas so uh it is 100 what we always dreamed of motown philly is in vegas hey deep voice guy i got i got a i got another question deep voice guy what fourth boy to bed there there was four boys to bed now there's only three what happened to the fourth guy deep voice guy turned out he was a benjamin button girl he went the wrong way he

[11:02]was going men to boys and he didn't let us know until it was too late we had to kick him out of the group we said nope this is boys going to men he was going the wrong way he is now a spermatozoa okay it's a sad sad sight but it's the way it goes i like i also i also want to point out that erin does not want to engage on the improv bit during this and instead actually wants to talk about the music i just want to hear the music that's all i just want to listen to rob yes take put put your mute on your headphones i just got to talk to rosie for a second let's hear it man hold on a sec rosie do we tell him that deep voice

[11:32]guy is the one that is not in the group anymore he's the one that's been out for 15 years before magic mike 69 calls us up yeah right before somebody calls us out he's the one who's not vegas anymore and he's the one who just flew the coop should we tell him or not no man just let it all right guys come on back come on back great bit rob yeah very timely very topical yeah i'm a sperm that's why you can't see me on the zoom i'm so small that's that's on me yeah i finally got to the moment where one you tries to go toe-to-toe

[12:04]with mariah yeah i don't have any more time boy you guys did you guys could ever ever get into like the boys to men knockoff groups like all for one yep or any of those other groups like that i got shy on cd right i feel like it's like it's kind of like a ska band or some of these like swing if you've got one good one you're good at it you're good at it you're good at it you're good one that you know and you can yeah and you can reference like you started watering it down with two or three other ones well there was something on twitter today saying like hey can we talk about

[12:31]how for two years there was just swing dancing was just swing dance music was big like oh right you knew the squirrel nut zippers you knew brian setzer like it was just two years everybody's like swing dancing is gonna be the biggest fucking thing and i was like well i'm not gonna learn how to do it we'll see if this sticks around and guess what i was right dummies never goes away swing dancing later aaron's doing his own separate podcast if he would listen to more episodes he would realize that every time he talks under me he

[13:06]gets edited out does not matter what he says okay it does not matter if i'm fumbling over the words or trying to think of a good boys to men joke do they really not have a deep voice guy anymore that's terrible i think matt could be wrong on that i think i think that's right wait you guys are listening in i we gotta work on our technology for the earmuffs well matt what's yours then what's yours maybe if it's the same well we can just skip it what's yours uh oh no mass is gonna be a whole different

[13:34]year yeah i'm another year oh that's so exciting august 16th oh yeah here we go august 16th let's see what the birthday jam let's hear a summer russell is okay and this is probably the most ever russell wanted to know what was the summertime jam in 96 yes i'm with an absolute phenomenon i mean it is super fun we went from the songs about death to whatever the hell this is and

[14:04]this was a worldwide phenomenon right you you can take the guy out of 1996 but you can't take the macarena out of my dance moves right now i still got it could you how many how many moves are there are there eight moves could you legitimately do all because i've my kids started to get into this and i you know you get to like the head the head the hip you know i i got lost after i moved well let's see it's arm down this further left arm down right arm up left arm

[14:30]up right arm on the shoulder left arm on the shoulder shoulder i missed that right arm on the hip left arm on the hip right arm on the head left arm on the head shake shake shake shake shake i missed the shoulders that's where i went wrong when i was trying to do with the kids i can see why this is a good workout seinfeld looking guys it had like a princess guy lookalike oh i'm sorry are you talking about los del rio okay yeah i am all i know about this song is that we asked my spanish teacher in high school to translate the lyrics and they would not do it

[15:00]saying it was much much much too dirty wow and i was like i gotta know what the mock rate is about so the mock rate it might be like a song about pegging and we don't even know it right they were earlier early to be like very good we're up here with our hands on our head going pegging in spanish we have no idea what's going on but you know the the not even the the gen z-ers call it the 1900s like the songs the songs from the 1900s so that's hilarious that's no not good you can't be doing that the songs from the 1900s hold up today like

[15:31]yeah because in my mind this is like these songs are like five years old right yeah that was high school 10 years ago yeah right like like in their mind we're listening to the macarena and you're a grand old flag forever and peace may you wait like that's what they thought of music music span well i hate to do this to you but literally like from this to bob newhart is like less time than from this to now when we are like don't do the math it's too depressing we can't do it uh matt give me your uh birthday and don't

[16:07]say anything fucked up and weird january okay 13 you guys have some january birthdays what was that like having a january birthday right after the holidays it was it was i was just far enough away mine yeah it was never an issue it was like three weeks after my daughter's got hers on the 26th of december and she's still excited because she gets to see like my extended family for her birthday she hasn't realized like oh that's actually one of the worst you know like winter birthdays do

[16:33]suck compared to like what you can do in the summer you know like pool parties and yeah going yeah that kind of thing so is she also aware that like nobody wants to celebrate her birthday like they just have to be there for the family thing but nobody's like going to celebrate her birthday it is so hard to when you realize you did not get wrapping paper and like her birthday present has santa on it and you're like oh it's like oh yeah happy birthday ho ho ho you know it's like oh no um it's good now i often i often celebrate my birthday around my birthday in las vegas with

[17:05]you guys so it's been a while now but it's typically a weekend we're there so that's bonus for me don't worry next time we go to vegas we'll ignore your birthday again like i cannot don't worry remember a single time when we have talked about your birthday or mentioned it when i'm eating alone at in and out or shake shack i'm celebrating my birthday so oh my god that's both the saddest and funniest thing i've ever heard you know what was worse was having a birthday in may and again i know i've told this before but it was always during finals it was

[17:32]right during finals like i'd be like hey guys let's go out and party and everybody's like i go to study for my business you know whatever you guys you guys are the whiniest punks i've ever heard in my life you're like oh it's too close to the holidays rob is like it's too close to finals i was a summer birthday and young for my life i was like oh it's too close to the holidays that means i was the last kid to be able to drive in my grade yeah i was the last kid to turn 18 and be able to go to the deja vu or whatever whatever gentleman's club you went to as an 18 year old the last one i was 21 in college and get into a bar yeah i was the last one to do all that stuff

[18:03]legally russell sees all of his friends doing like playing the scratch off lottery tickets and entering the draft and he's like oh darn it we're like son of a bitch i just lost 12 on scratch offs you idiot yeah that's my favorite comment on one of my bits is russell going yeah yeah what's that that means it's time to move on let's hear matt that is high praise this is the worst this is the worst one at

[18:31]all what no i don't know once we see the video you might think differently to be fair this matt's birthday being in a different year makes him a millennial and we were not millennials right millennial by 13 days you can tell immediately it's musical i think i'm technically a millennial well 1980 january 1 of 1981 and shit oh little tony braxton i mean this i mean look at this guy oh my god is it tyson beckford that's tyson beckford oh it's tyson beckford

[19:00]yeah hot hot he's a steamy video jeez i don't know matt might win so this is tony braxton unbreak my heart we'll get to the course this is pretty good yes right russell your son's way better than this one i don't know man this is oh jeez i didn't i don't remember this much logic you know what i was always wondering why i was constantly jacking off in the early 90s and watching these four videos i now realize with the exception of bone

[19:30]thugs these are hot videos you know what i mean when you're doing that thing in the pool oh my god oh erin's not listening he's like talking erin you keep going i'm gonna but like you know can you imagine rob's mom like walking down the stairs and he's fumbling to get the video the vhf's tape off the macarena video he's like no no no no she sees me from the back and it's like my hands it's like yeah i know there's some stuff on the waist but he's doing a lot of stuff like for the whole time it's so crazy intimate this is really

[20:02]getting into some stuff guys i don't know i think we gotta everybody she's shaving it would you guys ever let your wife shave your face absolutely 100 not that would be a disaster i let her cut my hair once when we lived in northern minnesota it looks like somebody took a five iron to the back of my head and didn't practice with it it was one of the worst haircuts i've ever gotten in my life she was like i didn't know how to do it i was like you don't how do you not like how do you cut chunks out of my hair so yeah i but you know that's the thing is like i think about me like this is how tough my child is now right it's like i'm trying

[20:31]to crank it and meanwhile i'm trying to get mariah without the boys to men in there like that's tough that's only 20 of that video is mariah and instead i'm looking at the low face guy it's giving me a bad connections in my head i mean low faced oh i mean low voice guy he also had a low face a lot of people don't realize that's why his voice is so low long face yeah his his face was down to his belly button walked into the bar yeah he had to lift up a shirt to eat a burger a lot of people don't realize that he'd be like girl she's like who's talking to me down to your girl and by his

[21:00]belt it's like wow you have a low face yeah a lot of people didn't know that well you know that's why the music podcast we're dropping facts all right let's get into everybody guys that segment was a hit and guess what we're doing it again next week because our voicemails really suck so let's get ready for our 17th birthday next week yes just matt is always one week behind the week before aaron what did you say i said my 17th birthday song will be the same as matt's 16th pretty good

[21:34]chance maybe not maybe not but i'm willing to i i'm willing to watch it again yeah you guys i'll make the ultimate sacrifice i will watch tony braxton video one more time aaron aaron i love you okay you know that right but what is your zoom setting on are you just looking at a picture of yourself talking like do you see any of us the rest of us in your zoom like when i'm talking can you see that yeah totally because i feel like sometimes when i start

[22:00]talking that's exactly when you start talking i feel like sometimes when i start talking that's exactly when you start talking oh my god oh my god well oh you know what you want to talk guess what we're only going here and i was going with you it's going great i took a bike ride today which is really nice i enjoyed my bike ride today um it was longer than i usually recovered from your from your previous bike accident like are you allowed to go on like mountains or how are you doing no i've not yeah no that's a that's a fair question russell i am uh i'm not riding on the mountain bike still i'm just doing the asphalt

[22:34]so i'm just out there on my road bike but today was a glorious morning i got out it was really nice lately i would have been going out in the afternoon i feel like i want to die so i got out in the morning and that felt good um so that was nice i want to talk a little bit about something i ate this week and rob um i know you're mad at me so you know do with this what you will but uh we might need the james brown sound cues for this one i haven't been talking about things i eat lately and this week i ate i ate a fish sandwich from lovelies in downtown oakland that was like

[23:08]like when jesus did the loaves and fishes this is the fish sandwich he's talking about so we got no wait a minute perfectly fried perfectly fried rockfish tartar sauce with dill in it house pickles potato bun oh okay nailed it everything everything perfect the greatest

[23:35]fish sandwich i've ever had in my life hit it well yeah james brown and aaron right is that aaron told the story and just kept going up and the story never came to a conclusion like there's normally a tone in your voice so it's like and the potato bunny nailed it potato bun and he's like potato bun and that's it i just was so excited about this fish sandwich so shout out to lovelies in oakland best fish sandwich i've ever had in my

[24:00]life they're a great burger joint and i decided i decided to forego the burger get the fish sandow everything about it was perfect i was so excited and the tartar sauce what set it apart from a filet-o-fish at mcdonald's less cheese potato bun there was no cheese i probably could ask for cheese if i wanted but uh that yeah the martin's potato roll uh fresh fish from the monterey fish market in berkeley uh chili pepper rockfish from the from the bay expertly fried he's just going through it again or i was like what have you done pickles

[24:31]and the tartar sauce and then i mean it was just it's just a perfect perfect yeah fish I went with the fish sandwich because i asked the guy at the counter like am i crazy i literally

[25:00]robbed i asked him that am i crazy for foregoing the burger for the fish sandwich and he said no he said yeah every day this man said to me look me right in my eye holes and he said to me every day i think about eating that fish sandwich and then we and then we sell out of it and i have to eat a burger instead and he's like i'm not mad that sounds like what they tell people when it's been sitting there for like five days and they really need to get rid of it yeah day old bread it was a friday i don't know yeah i'm not sure

[25:32]what day the fish truck comes in it was downtown oakland so it's sort of yeah it's kind of just as long as it's not monday yeah it's monday that fish has been sitting around for a while yeah it was friday so that's your rolling going as a fish sandwich you had yeah it was so good you guys i mean you've been asking about what i eat yeah i mean really listening to aaron tell a story it'd be like james brown doing a concert and then at the end it ends with him like reading a part of the newspaper and then kind of trailing off as he goes off stage like there's no true end

[26:02]you kind of have to say like oh is that all you're gonna say he's like yeah it was good but i am jealous of you eating a good uh fish sandwich i gotta say aaron i gotta warn you if the member of the guy who you booed at the musical if that guy listens to our podcast i guarantee he just booed you on that folks if you are eating a delicious sandwich at any point in this week please text the beck line uh with uh uh let's call it a potato roll yeah let's go hashtag potato roll put your sandwich into the beck line uh i would prefer that over the uh the 10 or so texts

[26:33]i got were just pig scrotums that we got in the last week i would rather be seeing pictures of sandwiches so once again sitting at work getting a text eager to check it it is a pig scrotum so i did appreciate that thanks everybody for sending me those uh matt rolling going how's it going with you uh good i just got back from a nice long weekend with uh joe and matt from woodbury a couple of good hardcore sports fans so we were down in iowa city to see the gophers lose to uh the iowa

[27:03]once again we're going to fight fight well there's there's two things that are extremely fun on this trip down the second time we've made a first one you always on the way down hey rob aaron did you guys get the invite for this trip or not yeah actually i did i'm from iowa and nobody asked me to come along i did i got a text saying hey do you want to come like fly in i'm inviting uh everyone i want to go with please come with me yeah i didn't i didn't make the cut i don't know what

[27:30]happened that's so what was the first thing that made a memorable bat well usually it's you make it you head down and there's the medford mall you get south of where you could turn off for saint oh my god before you get jerseys and there's the nike outlet well the fucking night nike outlet is not there anymore it's shut down and that was like a true nike outlet you know like you got like the fake nike outlets that like the tangiers that are you know they're just selling nike gear they say it's but this was like the true like you go there and you find gems right and so the

[28:00]we spent so much money there last time and it was great and so much fun but that's shut down so that got ruined second thing okay trip going great so far you can tell when a married guy goes on a road trip because like what's the best part of your trip well the mall we go to is normally closed but my family wasn't there so i thought that was really fun couldn't get my normal nike tearaways yeah we got diamond joes just over the border into into iowa okay and they've got uh sports betting you can they got a sports book there you can go there you know and as most of

[28:30]us here well we're all in the annual vegas trip uh joe joe from joe from woodbury loves betting on sports and so i go there and i'm literally like joe what are you betting on i'll just i'll i'll put in whatever you're going with let's just go with it right and so it ends up being awesome because he's got all these insights on this quarterback starting here this one's not here and what do you think about this and let's do this parlay and all this stuff and it's so much fun and so i think i texted you guys on friday night because we were like three for three in our

[29:00]three for three out of like the 24 bets that we made or something like that and i think we ended up like five for 24 yes good feeling you guys did you guys make your bets on the way down head to the game and then stop on the way back to cash out your tickets or what did you do yep yep so and i don't mind you know i don't mind saying what i put in so i put in 200 bucks right and at the end of the day i got back 176 bucks and so i lost admission 24 and that that is a huge win in my book because

[29:30]nothing to me there's nothing you know most people love betting on sports because it just makes watching that game that much more exciting right well half the time i don't remember like who we bet on or what we did joe's got this all in his head and you know like oh it's 24 and a half points not 21 and a half points and then you end up doing so many bets so you don't know what the hell is going so i don't it ends up being more stressful for me i think i would rather just bet on the teams that i want to win so like we bet on the gophers yeah but the under right and i was like

[30:00]i want to bet gophers and over because i just want the gophers to keep scoring like that's what i want to cheer for kind of a thing and so i don't know so i i think i might be like in one of the five percent of the population that thinks that betting on sports is more stressful than and it's not as fun as just watching the game but i don't know do you guys i'm picturing joe with like a gun to your head being like oh i noticed you haven't put a bet yet you better put one down you're like please no i don't like gambling i don't like putting money on this it ultimately ends up being like six o'clock on saturday right and it's like

[30:30]he he bets so that he's always got something going yeah you know at all different yeah all different times and so he goes oh geez well we shouldn't put that money on uh akron state or something like that but it makes it fun but are you guys sports gambling people do you like betting on sports i absolutely love sports gambling one of my favorite things to do because you can put down 20 bucks and you can sit there for three hours and enjoy the 20 that's true whereas blackjack that's like that can be a two 30 second hands you know it's like gone right away and the reason i love sports betting too

[31:04]is that you can take a game and make a bet that's always going to be good so you can say like oh i hope that this tight end is going to score one touchdown this game that's all you're watching for the whole game you couldn't care less what's going to happen you're like god please throw it to number 84 i'm begging you please please please and it's just it's so exciting i love it one i have i have a buddy i have i sports game with you guys in vegas i used to gamble on sports when i was younger a little bit but i think it was probably going to go the wrong route so i kind of stopped doing that i have a buddy and i kind of like this he is now he's a big minnesota sports

[31:35]fan he's one of our listeners and now he always bets against his minnesota teams so he's essentially trying to buy wins so he will bet against the vikings bet against the gophers bet against the twins and then if they win his team wins if they lose he wins money on it so he kind of looks at it as i'm gonna win either way so he's probably rich in the last 25 years his name is elon musk he made it all through gambling against minnesota sports team yeah i will say this though like you

[32:04]show up in like at the sports books and there's people there that haven't taken a shower in like three weeks you haven't bought a new jacket like 30 years kind of a thing degenerates right and so like the way you do it and i think is the best way you bet like 20 bucks a game right like hey i might lose it whatever that's that's the that's the worst thing that happens to me 20 bucks 20 bucks three hours of entertainment it's fine i could not make a living doing it i don't know how those people what happened to you i don't know i don't know what happened to you i don't know what happened yeah what happens when it's legal in your state and all of a sudden you're like oh i could just go

[32:34]on my phone real quick and put a 20 bet and be like well that didn't win so you know what i'll do is i'll put a 40 bet because that's exactly what happened to me when i got into i think every guy does this right where you get into gambling at some point you're like you do well one time and you're like am i a professional gambler is this my thing now and so i was doing online video poker when jenny was in medical school and so i i know absolutely nothing about poker i signed up sent my money to like cameroon or something and then they sent me double the money in chips right

[33:03]so i was like well already i've made a hundred bucks or whatever so i got 200 bucks of chips enter uh like a 500 tournament or 500 person tournament i get third place just total blind luck just end up to the final table i get third place win a ton of money and all of a sudden i'm like buying like sunglasses with the eyes on it like trying to think of like what my nickname is gonna be i'm like oh my god measuring your wrist size to see what size your world series of poker is gonna be and so then like then it got to the point where like we were having a party at our

[33:33]place and i was playing two tables of poker at the same time on the computer so i'd be going because i was like i don't like all this folding so i'd be like i'm gonna go back and forth but i'd stay at like a 25 cent like buy-in or whatever like a small blind right big blind and then i read in a book that if you were really really good at poker you could make one big blind an hour and so i was like oh i'll make 25 cents an hour this is not worth it to me i'm going to stop doing this and i decided exactly the point where i ran out of all my money and cameron who the guy in cameron

[34:02]got every single cent plus the free 200 which ended up not being a free 200 if you really think about it so oh man i've only done sports gambling i never understood sports gambling it never made sense to me i still don't understand money lines or any of that uh but i was throwing my cash with you guys when i'm in las vegas and i enjoy how it enhances the viewing experience for games time doesn't exist in the sports book i mean maybe it's the gummies but you just you're in the sports book you sit down in the nice lounge you get a coors light or whatever

[34:34]and you're just like watching a thousand games and once in a while you cheer for something and then it's always like i really love that moment when another group of people across the room is cheering for the same weird bet you are totally enjoy that yeah but russell i like your i like your friends um tactic because as you all know my only college sports team that i care about is the iowa state cyclones and i think they are now two and seven against the spread this year so i should have just been betting against them every week and i could have made some good cash on that

[35:03]one russell rolling going how's it going with you rolling going it's going pretty good i have a kind of another musical adventure i went to the stones i had another musical adventure oh god this one it was actually a musical i went to a musical this last weekend and i i went and saw wait wait was this a real thing or were you on like outside on the docks and still water you're like getting a discount musical or is this like a junior high somewhere this is not like the billy joel one where i didn't know what instruments they were playing and didn't remember any of the

[35:32]songs different i actually went to the orpheum and i saw the musical oklahoma have you guys ever seen the musical oklahoma before i you know i didn't see russell it was at the uh chan ass and dinner theater though and it was horrible you know like what made it bad man i'm interested because why didn't you like it i can imagine that the actors at the orpheum great but like the actors at the chan ass and dinner theater and i don't know these people if they're good or not again i don't know

[36:02]music so rosie well i think the reviews are in i think you've already they wouldn't have hired me that's actually a tough gig to get they wouldn't hire me so yeah well i'm the guy that was doing the whole like you know the only thing i remember is the guy who's doing the you know what you guys were just singing the oklahoma part it just it was just not currently hitting at all or something like that so you know everybody else was probably great but um so i did see it but it was you know it was at the chan ass and dinner theater so you know i was i saw a play once the chan ass and dinner theater i was in my fair lady in high school because

[36:33]the uh play director was like hey do you want to be in my fair lady you can pick any uh female you want to dance with in the school and like bring her along like looking back i don't get how that works it sounds like it might have been sort of a questionable thing so i had this crush on this girl so i was like hey let's you want to be in the play with me and so for like days we would practice this dance like we're holding each other on stage in retrospect probably one of the greatest things that i've ever done in my life and that's why i'm doing this over zoom rob like listening to

[37:03]me on a podcast where i get to edit what comes out of my mouth is probably the best way to get a crush on rob i know a lot of our listeners a lot of the foot freaks out there have gotten uh crushes on me and and send me uh pictures of pig scrotums you're like a you're like a monet painting aren't you rob like if you're far away yes full-on monet yeah yeah i'm like i'm actually more like one of those magic eyes like you've got to kind of sit there and stare at it for about five minutes with your eye on it and i'm like okay i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it i'm gonna kind of like like a little bit close and you're like i think i see something i like and it's like

[37:33]all right where the so then i would just be in the first half of my fair lady right and then my friends and i would go and get uh dinner and then we'd come back for curtain call and come out for everybody cheering for us and stuff so it wasn't until i was like 25 where i actually figured out what my fair lady was about and i was like that's what henry higgins was up to that whole time i was like oh they actually did work out because i never saw the second half but it's really low stakes i'm sorry we tried to watch my fair lady on uh netflix recently because i'd never seen it and

[38:04]my wife is a fan of the show first of all the movie version the colors incredible cinematography fantastic but so much talking there's so much goddamn dialogue in that in that movie i just want to hear the people sing it's all dialogue and then it's like it's really low stakes like it's just a guy who's like i think i can make this lady sound like she's higher class than she actually is it's just it's just it i don't get it uh i had a hard time with it we never finished it it's kind of like it's kind of like an old-fashioned how high

[38:32]right where red man and uh red man who's the other guy that was at that method man method man and red man went to harvard and they were just super high it's kind of like that a little bit right where they're like i bet we can get into harvard and then they do it's yeah right i'm a smart i'm smart for saying that so russell you saw oklahoma at the orpheum that's real life shit it was legit it was really it was fun to go to but i've realized like musicals i don't go to a ton of them but i like them when it's like you've got this rousing

[39:01]chorus and people are having fun and dancing around and singing and having fun but this one got a little dark and violent and i was like i'm out on this i don't want any part of this you know they were firing off you know fake guns in the room and i was just like i'm out on this i don't want any part of this what is the best musical aaron what is the best musical you've ever seen best musical i've seen in person yeah i mean i saw rent in new york in 1997 96 97 yeah summer of 97 and i mean that was to me at that time that just blew me away um so like i

[39:37]was listening to rent every day and you know to see it live that for me was the best i would say close second though book of mormon that shit is hilarious i loved that one so that one i've seen more recently yeah book of mormon guys right book of mormon was super funny and then avenue q i saw that jenny and i were in london one time and we said okay we have enough money to go see a show or and we're like ah let's go see avenue q and then we slept in the airport so we saw avenue q and

[40:03]there's a bunch of puppet sex that's happening throughout the whole thing highly recommend it great don't remember anything else about it but it was really i loved it yeah i saw hamilton i think you know let's see the original cast that's a good one yeah there's a touring cast that came through here which is pretty darn good but the one that hit me the most was the lion king and you know the the music and the pageantry of everything and the way they've got the costume um that one actually hit me the best is like that was the best one i've seen from us just a pure

[40:34]musical standpoint with everything they had going on but the rest of them were great wicked you know avenue q all of those we've seen a lot of them and it's they're great it's like you know for guys like us who are degenerate sports gamblers who love going to vegas once a year and stuff like that like going to a musical is good it's something that we should all do a little bit more because it is a lot of school art even though it's all new things like that but it's good point on hamilton

[41:01]matt i did i did not want to like hamilton i went into it like i don't want to like this i think lin-manuel miranda is corny it's going to be a lot of corny rippity rapping and i yeah i absolutely loved hamilton good good call i did have a question about musicals for you guys so the next time i go i'm curious when do people clap after songs because sometimes people clap after a song or like a presentation sometimes they don't is it just like hey if they really crush it we're out of applause or is it supposed to be clap after every song every song whatever you feel

[41:32]you got to clap every song there were songs last night where people were not clapping afterwards then there were other ones where it was like people were really into it and when the people didn't get an applause i was like i felt kind of bad and and i don't even think they were necessarily better or worse than the other ones they just no one clapped for them you just hear like the one clap it's just it slows down it's like oh no that's but again you know for for guys like us i mean it's it's a win in rome scenario you're not going to start the clapping on that thing you know you just

[42:01]follow along with the crowd and you can't go wrong right like but if you're the one who's starting all of a sudden when nobody else is supposed to be clapping that's but if you feel it if you like it and you feel like clapping you should do it and some songs are you know i want to remind everybody aaron has also booed people at a show like that so i don't know if we can take right because you gotta do both you gotta give you gotta give them what you feel you're a good audience you paid your ticket man you paid your ticket that's your seat you're there to give them what you feel i think doesn't kate wish sing about one hand clapping on this album i think she does right

[42:32]yeah it sounds like me watching that boys of men i was trying to set you up uh russell how much was a russell how much was an oklahoma t-shirt was that uh did you get out of there for under 50 bucks i did not get any swag at this one i did not get any swag but i did do something completely different i got tickets and i wasn't really paying attention but i was like no balcony this time i'm not risking the balcony sat on the floor but i wasn't paying attention we ended up in the very front row so you couldn't really see in the back so i've kind of i've screwed up tickets i'll say this though russell

[43:01]hey i'd like the orpheum or the state theater yeah the first row of the of the first balcony is the best seat to sit in you see everything done i'm not lying i'm not i'm not trying i'm just this is for future reference yeah actively seek out that first because you've got nobody in front of you and you're looking down at everything you can see a lot of stuff that's going on it is awesome russell just the next time you go my my advice russell would be to take the tickets you're buying and then do the exact opposite of what you want to do and that would probably be the

[43:30]right decision that seems to be the pattern that we're finding here so you sat in the first row of the or i just i went on stub hub i clicked on like whatever the best seats were then they looked like a good value and i bought them and i wasn't really paying attention and then we kept walking down to our seats and we were in right in front right in front but then you get to see the orchestra right i mean that's cool no the orchestra was back behind on the main stage so you couldn't see them at all actually russell so my role going this week i i got a i got a thing russell i think i need your advice as a uh as a single guy i need your advice so i'm gonna get into your advice

[44:02]nice okay you're gonna get to the corner huh yeah advice corner oh this is kind of erotic over this corner uh do you feel erotic when you're in the corner don't answer that uh so here's the deal uh i the other day i came home and jenny goes hey do you want to hear a secret and i was like oh yes this is gonna be great maybe it's time to get pegged or whatever uh and then she told me a so my question is this russell how do i avoid like how do i avoid coming home and just talking

[44:33]to my wife about work and kids like how can i start a conversation that is not talking to my wife about work my wife has one of the most boring work scenarios ever and i bet i hear about it for 35 minutes a day so what can i do to a start a conversation that's not about that and b bail out of a conversation that has gone terribly wrong what can i do to pull that ripcord and get out by the way marriage going fine just want to remind everybody i i think you're you're 16 years in or

[45:02]whatever i think you're stuck i think you just got to keep going with the way it's going right i don't think i don't think there's a way for you to pivot at this point is there all right let's get into the album for nobody's favorite part of the show let's talk about my favorite part oh yeah guys guess what i'm back on my npr bullshit here let's hear it kate bush was really only happy when

[45:33]she was in charge of things in the mid-1970s progressive rock was becoming more and more popular with pink floyd jethro tull rush and yes all getting top albums in the u.s record companies were desperate to find the next progressive superstar it turned out to be a perfect time for kate bush she had already produced 50 demo songs with her family and these tapes were given to david gilmore from pink floyd after he listened to them he was like oh my god i'm gonna do this he agreed to help her record a proper demo along with jeff emmerich the sound engineer for the

[46:01]beatles so first of all can you imagine that like you you're like oh i'm gonna make a demo tape oh i've got david gilmore and jeff emmerich you'd be like i'm set star-studded lineup emi eventually signed her but to her frustration they put her on retainer so she took the time and her sizable advance and spent the money on interpretive dance and mime classes which kind of tells you where we're going with this album here by 1977 she had made demos of over 200 songs and was finally allowed to release her first album um a kick inside with the hit single weathering heights emi wanted a different song for the

[46:31]lead single but assertive bush insisted on weathering heights and would assist again with running up that hill on this album the kick inside was a hit kate bush became the first uk woman to achieve a number one hit with her own written song with weathering heights in 1978 when she was 19 she was also the first female artist ever to write every song on a millions selling album emi pressed her to make another album quickly and she did and it came out and she was disappointed in the rushed album she learned her lesson from not

[47:01]listening to herself and to allow herself to have the maximum amount of control she set up her own publishing and management company while also building a 24 track studio in the barn behind her house this is also where she started the extensive use of the fairlight cmi sample synthesizer that we hear on this album so here we have the first album where kate bush got what she always wanted to be in charge of everything let's listen to hounds of love nice now this album is set up in an interesting way okay and i'm going to put interesting maybe in

[47:31]quotes the front half is a classic album right the back half is what we call the ninth wave it's a sweet about a woman afloat in the ocean after a shipwreck so let's get through the first five songs of the the front side of the album this is the hit and kate bush's uh biggest hit running up that hill and big boy's favorite song which i've mentioned a thousand times i listened to this song two dozen times this week i loved it i thought it was so good

[48:01]rips like i'd never heard this album when i put this on i was like this is where we're at this is what this is what i've been missing this thing rocks and i i think a big reason this song got all the way up to this is three in the uk 30th on the billboard it's it's by far her most popular song but she has never performed this song live until she did a show with in 1987 with david gilmore so she she wrote this song put it out in 85 didn't perform it live until 87. she never toured after 1979 and then she did a 22 show set

[48:34]in 2014 i think so that's why i mean i think kate bush never really took off because you just have never seen her play live because like i said she didn't want to she's like yeah fuck it i don't want to play live nobody's going to make me do it uh the original title on this song was a deal with god but the the record company thought that was way too controversial so instead they made it running up the hill what do you guys think i think deal with god is a much better song title yeah for sure you know two things one be a 19 year old and tell a bunch of studio execs and

[49:02]all that to f off and you know play you know that her first album good for her all that stuff you know i think this song if if the whole album sounded like this song and i'm not saying that it doesn't but like this song absolutely caught me when i've heard it the first time yep um you hear it lately in some groups like churches and i think the whole synth pop you know kind of uh early 80s is back and it's big and it's awesome and the euro synth pop is is great and so you know i think it's

[49:30]only gonna get that much more popular and i think she'll be even more popular in the next 10 years because of it but um yeah i think you this the second title what did you what did you say it was a deal with god yeah would have been great but you can see i think in the 80s that just wasn't going to fly in england jolly old england she said the song was about men and women swapping places and being able to understand each other better if i gave you like a week where you could live as a

[50:00]woman would you do it do i have to go out with you or not yes let's wrestle no no big deal but let's just say yes i kind of want to see what a bra feels like have you guys ever thought about that like just but like i don't even get how would i put on a bra to begin with i don't get it like do i have in movies they're always doing that like reach behind the back i can't reach back that far in sports bras your physical therapist do it after your treatment oh my god that reminds me

[50:30]my wife's going there tomorrow i mean i kind of feel like it's one of those things where you where you'd find out too many things you just didn't want to know and like you just can't come back from it and then i don't know like you're better not knowing what you don't know yeah blissful ignorance i mean i'd have to try it but yeah i think i think i think everybody i think everybody's seeing it have to try things are more difficult for them i think i think i'd rather shave my legs too than my face because i'm always cutting on my face like in my mustache you can see it's not even you can say disaster if i screw up my legs a little bit who

[51:02]cares you can shave your legs there's a number of there's a number of our buddies brian from woodbury he shaves his legs can i should i be shaving my legs is that something i should be trimming i don't know if he shaves like don't you need to look good in your singlet rob don't you need to grease up and and such like you should yeah you should be shaving your legs i like how you guys are thinking that i look good greased up and with no hair on my legs like it's just a couple hot dogs yeah that's what i'm saying like i can tell you right now it does not matter what i do in my singlet i don't look good there's there's

[51:32]just nothing when you go to the arnold's you got to shave your legs also you need to get tanning trim them just trim them i look like a sack of potatoes some potatoes being smaller than others let's say well brian brian only because he's commented like i think it's hilarious that brian listens to this to this garbage on a weekly basis and then comments on it i better call him so you know brian he trims his leg he says you run a lot faster if you have trimmed legs that doesn't necessarily shave i mean i'm impressed if he can still run i can't i tried to run

[52:02]in the street with my son today it's not happening it's a young man's game that guy's still hitting home runs and yeah yeah what's your league baseball i think that's been my problem with running is i'm too her zoot i think that's that's the only problem and i did just russ i did just edit out a 20 minute bit russell i had about being a woman for a couple weeks but we don't have time we gotta cut that out all right hounds of love this is the third single off this album i think it's a pretty strong start to the album the first two songs i was into they get a little

[52:31]bit stranger in the second half where we got like monsters yelling at us and everything but the first two songs i thought were jams the i'll admit that this album didn't grab me like i think some of you other guys and i think it's because i liked the first song so much but this one right to like you're right you know and just it kind of lost me right away at song two but it's interesting though i mean this is the kind of music we haven't had yet on this list right we haven't had any just straight 80s real synthy stuff really honestly the closest thing we've had to it which is kind of i

[53:07]mean talking prince is the closest thing to me is the the closest analog to this and i think they did do some work together i don't i didn't read enough about kate bush but i do hear prince in this music and i hear her music in especially in stuff in purple rain the kind of squealing guitars in the background of these driving drums and the synths and the drum machines so he's the one that

[53:30]i thought of but you know i think of him a lot anyway but but i was wondering like why is this the first album where i really had never i had heard of kate bush kind of not understanding who she was i've never heard any of these songs i know that i've never heard any of these but it's my fault right i should have been looking for well but she she didn't perform the hounds of love live until 2014 but i don't think she had a lot of success in the u.s right that first the first track on the album i think made it to like 30s on the charts but no other songs she had charted in the u.s like all of her success was in the uk she was not very popular over here

[54:03]when she was performing live in the 80s it's so strange that the british invasion even i mean because there were british bands in the 80s that made it over here and it just kind of skipped her the big sky this song about me the big guy when you mentioned like very 80s like to me i'm hearing from her or her she takes from madonna but that's what i'm hearing here this album knocked off like a virgin from the uk number one okay no i've been trying to figure that out too i don't know who was borrowing from whom but you're totally right russell that's what i hear too one cool thing i

[54:33]read about that song is she wasn't really getting the right feel for it since she brought in this bassist martin youth glover i don't know if you guys have ever heard of this guy before but anyways he comes in and he's doing the rehearsal and he said he had previously rehearsed with motorhead and lemmy and so he said on this song he was trying to sound like remember family man barrett from bob marley the guy who had all the kids he was trying to sound like a cross between family man barrett and lemmy as the

[55:00]bass player i thought that was kind of a cool approach we gotta hear it we gotta hear it again there's so many bands i'm like can you please stop doing songs where you're trying to sound like lemmy and the bass player from bob marley please let me amplify the bass sure why not i believe him now we start to get a little weird this song is called mother stands for comfort this is a song about a mother who knows the kid did something wrong so i've been in that situation right the kid comes in chocolate all over their face hey do you eat this chocolate no uh but the

[55:35]mother is willing to lie for the son because she admitted later in an interview the child had murdered somebody so fun fun stuff this one's the one that's got sound effects all over it right yeah oh yeah for sure and a lot toward the end of the album this is where she starts really letting the freak flag fly right yeah and now on number five she has a song called cloud this is an anthem this thing is a monster that i don't know if that's a synth doing those strings i'm assuming

[56:05]but that is badass isn't it yes this is the one matt was matt was thinking about current artists uh the other person i think of is billy eilish and i haven't listened to her enough but i wonder if if she takes from some of this too so cloud busting is about a peter reich book called memory uh peter peter reich book called book of dreams does that book sound familiar to you guys at all

[56:30]no okay i'm gonna keep going he was a psychiatrist and his dad was a philosopher no we're close and we thought that maybe the dad got abducted by aliens okay the dad did invent a device where you could sit in it and collect up your uh orgasmic energy all right this is the this is no this is the same guy that patty smith wrote uh birdland it's the same exact book that patty

[57:00]smith wrote birdland about about the guy who collected the orgasm energy uh and and she made a video that was directed by uh that was conceived by terry gilliam from uh monty python and brazil fame and had donald sutherland starring in it like it's it's this weird like connection you gotta read this peter reich book and let us know how it goes it has inspired so much great art i'm doing i know you are that's what i'm telling you and not these other two i'm reading uh dead astronauts by jeff andermere right now which is like super

[57:31]fucking weird so i'm i'm into it i'm ready rob you mentioned that fair light that fair light synthesizer at the very beginning i noticed that like i'm not really even sure where all the fair lights come from i'm not even sure where all the fair lights come from i'm not even sure where they're coming in but there's so many crazy sounds on this there's all these different instruments but i was reading a little bit about the fair light and it sounds like it was like this first digital synthesizer where you could sample and reproduce acoustic instruments and different types of sounds right so i thought we could maybe do a list of the greatest songs ever featuring the fair light synthesizer my my cousin had a rudimentary version of this this is the cousin's

[58:05]uncle had all the cool stuff and the only thing we would do is make fart sounds and then play different songs as fart sounds so i was 25 years old as well all right first song on the list i don't even know if our podcast would exist without this song the band is yellow the song is oh yeah which rob has borrowed or sampled for our podcast oh yeah that's the sense yeah i think yes wow and then you guys all remember what

[58:36]this is famous from what movie is it famous in barris bueller's day barris bueller's day off and hate that oh my god i cannot fucking stand that movie it is such a stupid ass movie and i have held my tongue long enough on ferris bueller i've often lied and been like oh yeah i don't mind that movie it sucks the times i've tried to watch it it is absolute torture why don't you like rob doesn't hate anything except for my ruling goings and he hates ferris bueller this seems

[59:03]like the type of thing where it's funnier than he is and he doesn't like that they're funnier than he is that would be my guess first of all rude to teachers okay first of all it has ruined my life it's teaching wise okay but second of all it's not the principal to the administration not the teachers the principal the friend is depressed like it's just not and then like a car the the big scene is like a car gets stolen then he sings it's just too weird to me i don't i've never enjoyed it and i uh and i think i'm right and everyone else is wrong in the world i think that's

[59:33]how it goes did you guys know did you know that shaking shaking a baby now or whatever it's a song i didn't i had no idea that was a beatles song until about three years ago shaking a baby i thought you were talking about a song called shaking a baby and i was like what the fuck are you talking about you are coming in from nowhere just don't just don't shake the baby don't yeah that is that that song actually was a huge problem people should not be doing that's like

[60:03]that's like my mom kept catching me doing the woolly bully and i was like mom it's boys to men on the street what am i supposed to do yeah says that the eisley brothers did it first but the beatles definitely covered it yeah woolly bully russell and that version that version in uh the movie is the beatles version i had no idea for a long time so next song on the list this is interesting this was actually a famous kind of orchestral sound and these guys who were using this fair light synthesizer they didn't really know how to use it but they were just searching through

[60:32]stuff and they came across this sound effect and it became like a like a uh a pivotal sound for hip-hop the song is called planet rock by africa bombata oh oh yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yes yes yeah that is badass isn't it yeah definitely oh man did you hear about the song that beat this one on the charts though what's that it was called planet paper planet scissors oh yes i like paper paper planet paper next song on the list

[61:07]i'm not really sure the name of it something by frankie and someone it's called relax check this one out russell gave russell like drove by this list in his car and was like yeah it looks good to be russell this is frankie goes to hollywood relax to hollywood relax check this one out you know what this song is about you know what i was reading about it it turns out it's much

[61:32]more sexually explicit than you would originally think if you're not really paying attention to the lyrics oh this one oh yeah yes it was actually a super super interesting thing rob when you say that it was actually banned by the bbc radio and it was one of the only songs to ever make it to number one in the uk while being banned on bbc radio oh wow yeah it's about jerking it to boys to men and mariah carey at the same time down in your basement aaron you got to relax all right last song on the list this is i think it's yes from 1983 owner of a lonely heart check this one

[62:05]out this is such a kind of a nice groove in there such a good song so one of the reasons i pulled this one up is i think they're using kind of a a backbeat here they're using a drum beat or a backbeat but it's interesting aaron your boy quest love your guy quest love your favorite drummer yeah said this was the actual the first use of a sample as a backbeat as opposed to a sound effect

[62:30]really yes i didn't know that i thought that was pretty cool i still have knows a little bit about drumming that was a strong one that was another i will i did a better list by russell that was a top five and another instrument russell's an expert now in instruments for sure russell could see the orchestra he just didn't recognize any of the instruments he's like why are those people on stage why does that guy keep pulling that bow across those strings so now we start talking about the ninth wave so here's she is this is a woman has a shipwreck and

[63:03]she's floating out at sea and her memories are keeping her awake listen i'm not gonna lie we're gonna cruise to the last this was this shit was i mean yeah this was in my wheelhouse because uh rob i think it's correct to call us we're not cruising through but it also would have been called a song cycle and this is the kind of stuff i studied in an undergrad and it reminded me so much of this song cycle called the andre expedition which is by dominic argento of the university of minnesota and it was all

[63:34]i did a balloon exploration in the arctic and they all died and then many years later their three bodies were found and the guy's journal was still intact and so dominic argento set the whole thing to music i one time decided i really needed to like study this myself so i sat in the music library at our alma mater and put it on on a friday afternoon listened to the whole thing and i'm sure i proceeded to go to hogan brothers and get blasted on bush lights

[64:00]because it was the saddest experience you're telling me this is what they gave you the huge music scholarship you do and this is what you were doing like this is how you earned that scholarship that's it happened once it happened once i know can you imagine going on a balloon expedition to arctica like there's got to be like two three balloons they're tops yeah you're not seeing any balloons i mean it just it just can't be that many bodies were discovered like 30 years after they died and then the one guy's journal it became famous because he kept the whole journal of the whole thing i think that's the dream is dying in a mysterious way and then they find you

[64:34]on the toilet with a bagel in the tank and everybody's like oh god gross he died just how he lived disgusting but at least you would be probably would be remembered as a legend for the guy who like invented the the small fridge in the bathroom though right like you would it's full of toilet paper and cream cheese uh that that's not i was thinking about this i saw i was thinking about what is your greatest fear like do you ever see something and you're like

[65:01]this scares the hell i saw a a tiktok the other day of people who are cave diving and they're going through a very narrow part of a cave underwater and i almost passed out like i really did i was like this makes me ill you ever see anything like that like or tightrope walkers or anything oh god just thinking about that makes me sick too i your cave thing i think you did you send us a picture of that where they're like going and they're like squeezing through i can't imagine i did that would be rude i would think that's like cruel now sending you a picture of a guy stuck in a balloon but he just kind of likes it that's

[65:31]awesome okay and none of you still haven't gotten a comment on that text yeah terrifying now underwater stuff drowning no good that i don't like that one like i like being in a submarine like could you be in it could you be in a submarine like for 45 days or something like that i think i'd freak out yeah you hear like creaking stuff as you're like 600 feet down i'd be like no absolutely not run into an uncharted mountain underwater mountain that's not good oh god and speaking of that under ice

[66:04]yeah this is when this is getting into that laurie anderson sound like let's get weird i just love how deeply weird this album is it's very strange another fear of mine by the way you ever see people scuba dive under the ice oh the idea of scuba diving out of the ice and not being able to find the hole coming up i'm convinced that's another thing guys do when they start a family they're like oh got a family well i need to go scuba dive under the ice

[66:30]more fun uh by the way going fine uh waking the wit this sounds like a euphemism but also this is like actually we had this on the house today my wife was like oh is this tori amos this is definitely the one where there are demons yelling over like a pink floyd riff right yeah what is that what is that we have to stop and address like man there's random like beast voices right now on the 68th greatest album of all time yeah meanwhile aaron this is what he was writing papers about in college i was like memorizing vast

[67:03]things about science and aaron's like this music is like sad so the the next three songs that those kind of past present future so that was her as she's drowning thinking about her past and kind of helping her survive now she goes and she does some kind of our town style shit where she's looking at the present and seeing everybody mourning her not coming back what's been can you imagine a more boring part of

[67:33]your christmas story like the ghost from the ghost from christmas present gets you and they just take you to see your family i'd be like oh god are you serious like i gotta go see what my family's up to because i can tell you what they're up to they're sitting in their rooms on their ipads like that's what they're up to i bet you kanye listened to this album and john brian who did his uh was it late registration it's that kind of like i like that few an apple john brian stuff that's such a good taker and i love that here we have jig of life oh here we go

[68:00]we got an irish river i like this one with this one for sure this is kind of our first river dance irish jig we've had on the list isn't it oh absolutely i would say so closest we got so far as van morrison right yeah let's keep tracking that though how many irish jigs have we done so far the answer is one what's good it's it's excellent and i like when she does that can you imagine going back and meeting yourself in the past like our time machine bit

[68:33]i bet i'd go back and meet myself and be like oh shut up like and then i'd be like oh what are you doing now in the future future robin i'd be like well i have a podcast with russell and aaron and matt and i'd be like oh yeah who the hell's man what would you you know what would you if you were if you go back to when you were 16 or let's move it forward a few years when you're you know us in college and you were to you were to come forward and you get done with the makeout session with yourself outside of the the machine that's yeah and then you find out like your big

[69:02]creative outlet your big achievement is a podcast with us that gets approximately probably a legit 15 people that listen a week i gotta say as a guy who wanted to go into radio i'd be thrilled this would be that would be great i would love it i think i'd be happy as a clam you say what's a podcast yeah hello earth here we have hello hello earth or as kate bush would say hello earth this one builds to a pretty amazing crescendo i kind of like this one i didn't love the second half the album but this kind of built for me i like the way it built

[69:32]and it got pretty haunting at the end too yeah i like this drum sound too this lets you know you were in 1985 no question like this is 1985 drums right in your living room and now we have a morning fog it's all about feeling better taking your life more seriously after a brush with death uh that happens to me every time i like hurt my back or like i get sick i'm like i'm never going to take for granted being healthy again yeah i feel that and then a week later i'm like i'll

[70:00]spend all day on the couch today i know that matt's the construction guy but i kind of like a little bit of the upbeat ending here it got you know you kind of had those the jams at the beginning of the 80s like poppy songs and it kind of got strange for a while and then the last song kind of brought it back a little bit for me to back what i was enjoying at the beginning and that is it for kate bush uh hounds of love it's a super creative super interesting album let's get into my favorite section it's the rating system

[70:30]and now it's time for everybody's favorite part of the show the patent and very popular very popular better rating system oh all right so listen this album is uh it's at 68 oh you want aaron you know what i'm talking about uh this album is it at 68 is it a rolling well toned it is perfect x68 it's right where it belongs you look at this album you go boy is this album at 67 no no too high 69 oh way too low 68 oh it makes me happy uh this is right where it belongs in the

[71:05]pantheon of all-time great albums is this album rolling boned okay it should have been way higher we should have gotten to this listen i'm getting in a time machine talk to my younger self like a year and a half ago like hey this podcast you're starting is still going i'd be like oh shit that that is now that is depressing um like i think going back to slightly in the past rob meeting slightly future rob and finding out that literally nothing in your life is going to happen to you changed oh okay still doing that thing great uh or is this a rolling groan you did not like this

[71:36]album you think it should be higher on the list it does not belong on the list okay it should be a higher number which of course would be lower on the list because we are starting up high and coming down low much like uh if you were on a balloon expedition to the arctic okay and coming you start up you're like hey let's take this balloon over the arctic i don't see what could possibly go wrong uh it doesn't seem like cold weather and balloons mix all that well but uh who knows uh and it turns out of course it doesn't uh with aaron who read the diary meanwhile

[72:03]i was out trying to meet girls and i was dealing with somebody who was like hey what did you do today oh i read the diary about balloonists who died in the arctic and those girls were still making out with aaron more than they were making i listened to the song cycle i listened to the how the music was the lyrics were set in the song we already know you went to cycling today and we heard about your cycling my god stop talking about it jesus we could spend more time on that potato roll if you wanted though aaron we could hear more on that

[72:32]potato roll the martin's potato is absolutely the best burger but it's so squishy it's full the string russell you know it's like talking to me about the los rios boys macarena uh rosie what did you think of this album i loved listening to this album it was a new discovery for me i liked it especially after last week when we talked about reasonable doubt which is an album that i know really well and didn't actually enjoy that much anymore so this album is going to be an album that i'm going to be listening to for the rest of my life

[73:02]so i'm going to be listening to it for the rest of my life and i'm going to be listening to it for the rest of my life and i'm going to be listening to it for the rest of my life and i'm going to be listening to it for the rest of my life and i'm going to be listening to it for the rest of my life and i'm going to be listening to it for the rest of my life and i'm going to be listening to it for the rest of my life and i'm going to be listening to it for the rest of my life and i'm going to be listening to it for the rest of my life and i'm going to be listening to it for the rest of my life i know it's been super influential for many artists so despite uh the downturn in the second side i gotta give it a rolling well-toned all right matt what do you think rolling boned rolling grown or rolling well-toned i did out of order there kind of switching it up

[73:32]i i wish the whole album and i know this is ridiculous to say but i wish the whole album was very similar to the first song that euro synth pop 80s vibe of duran duran and aha and you know some of those other groups that i think we're going to get into a little bit more of as well as we get into a little bit more of uh as we get into a little bit more of uh as we get into a little bit more of uh as we get on the list here i think it's great i think everybody it's like got this resurgent here with church i mean yeah yeah yeah as i hear a lot about a lot

[74:00]of that in that song for sure you know things like that that it just was great and i could see i think it's that one song alone that kind of pulled it up into the 68 uh range you know i don't know i didn't vote for it so i'm not quite sure but i wish the whole thing was there it got too weird it got too madonna-y if that's even a thing um and it got really weird real goofy in the last half of it which just wasn't for me i understand why rosie like it is weird it's good you know if you're into that stuff it's good you know it's unique uh but for me it's

[74:32]rolling groaned i we've got atlantis more set coming up next i would put jag a little pill way ahead of this one in terms of its influence on everything so that's why just because of that alone i'd put it as rolling groan yeah uh russell what do you think rolling well toned rolling boned or rolling grown i like some of the synths i like there was a lot of instruments on the album that we haven't heard before a lot of different sounds i enjoyed that i enjoyed a handful of the songs but i just can't get behind an album that's got a monster yelling at me being the 68th greatest album of all time i'm gonna say

[75:04]it's rolling groan that's so weird russell because you're nikki you're nikki minaj that you did on monster was so good and now you're telling me you don't like the monster i mean i mean yeah that's all you need to know like nikki minaj doesn't have an album above this give me a fucking break unfortunately you guys are all wrong this is a rolling stay at home right like this is an album that was totally made in her own it's it's totally a singular vision i couldn't use that one because

[75:32]i've already used it but this is a lot like a kind of a gingerbread house right like if somebody gives you a pre-made gingerbread house it it's never very good it just kind of sits there you're like but if you're there making it all on your own and it's exactly what you want you at least know hey this was what i wanted this is my vision even if it's not like the favorite thing because you're eating those gumdrops and you're like oh my god i'm gonna eat this i'm gonna eat this i'm gonna eat this you know and you're eating the little stuff and you're eating the frosting then you're eating part of it and you realize that there's actually styrofoam inside and maybe that gingerbread actually isn't safe to be eating that's kind of like this album uh listen next up okay it's like

[76:04]when you okay wait it says here i'm supposed to sing this part it's like when you try to save money at a concert oh no but you spend 200 bucks on some t-shirts it's like picking up your kids don't take the bus but when you get there they hit you in the nuts isn't it ironic we've got alanis morris and jagged little pill for our 69th album awesome

[76:34]when you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time it's true though it's like hey son i'm here so you can have a ride he's like here's a and again we're gonna talk about it enough we should bring it back up to throw a rock better caveman style it was a small rock but yeah i don't got anything

[77:03]guys we went the whole thing without making any bush jokes let's give ourselves okay let me unfold the banner mission accomplished a copy of joke from like two episodes ago there we go we have so many new listeners that aren't going to listen to those episodes we've gone one episode without mentioning And glycerine.