Jay Z: Reasonable Doubt (1996)

[00:00]Okay, man, let's clap. Let's get going here. One, two, three, four. All right. Here we go. Bumblebee, bumblebee. You cut our warm-ups on tape. Now that's going to have to stay in. Somebody's going to listen to the podcast for the first time and be like, well, time to hear about Rolling Stone's top 500 albums. And they're going to hear Russell going, bumblebee. They're doing their vocalizes. That's a joke we made five minutes ago.

[00:30]Off mic. In 2020, four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums as decided by Rolling Stone magazine. This resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music, excoriated the order, and led us to making this podcast. We are far from experts. We promise to do almost no research. All opinions are our own, unless you disagree. Please sit back and enjoy. Beck did it better. This is from 19, I didn't write down, it says 1964. I think that's a little off. This is from 1996.

[01:00]This is Reasonable Doubt by Jay-Z. Guys, guys, no time to talk. We need to hurry. We're on the Wild Wednesday show. Oh, yeah. Do you guys think Kanye West would have swirmed the stage at the Grammys if Bob Newhart would have won a Grammy over Jay-Z? What are you, stop to be like, stop, stop. Jay-Z's album, or like Bob Newhart's album was the greatest masterpiece ever. Bob, Bob, I love you, but I got to tell you right now. I think Jack Benny had a better album than you.

[01:30]I see it. Hey, did you hear my bit about baseball? Guys, guys, we got to hurry up and get to the Wednesday show. Bring your best bars. Yo, what's up, everybody? This is Jay, this is Mad Wednesdays. Mad Wednesdays. Wait a minute. I see my man over there. Rob and the guys from Beck did it better. The Beck did it better, guys. Game dance, let me hear that little tape of yours. And it's fat. Why don't you come up here. Tell people what you're up to, and maybe Aaron can talk about what he's eating today. That would be fun. And maybe Russ can talk about a date, and Matt, well, Matt can just listen.

[02:00]Irish eyes, which is actually a drink involving, I think it's cream, and then there was some green stuff in it, and then I was a diet coke in it. You always come back to the Irish eyes. Guys from the Beck did it better podcast. Actually, let me stop you right there. It's actually coming out on a podcast episode. The name of the podcast. Oh, wait. Where?

[02:30]Where are you going? Well, it is definitely the bomb. But you know, I do want to say something to you. I know you've been having a lot of problems with the law. Especially with Matt violating a number of ordinances in his city for the number of inflatables in his yard. Russell verbally harassing a security guard at the Rolling Stones concert. And Aaron setting up toilet cams. I'm behind you 100%. Except for the Aaron toilet cam thing. Matt Wednesdays, Rudy King, DJ Ace, Dame Dash, Rockefeller Records. We're all behind you. You can come back anytime. Except for Aaron.

[03:00]Because he also got caught taking socks out of the trash and smelling them. Oh, come on. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Music up. It's time to start the show. Oh, yeah. That was a great Wednesday. That's a mad Wednesday. It's a bad Wednesday. I was thinking, too, like, it would be funnier if Aaron was taking socks out and putting them in the hot dog buns and eating them like hot dogs. But I was like, that's too gross. I can't do that. That's too great. Why would I do that? You just walk in. Aaron's putting mustard on a sock. You're like, what? I would never do that.

[03:31]Beck did it better. I'm going to edit out where you said never. Hey, welcome to all my little foot freaks out there. Hey, all the Beck, all the Beckerhead foot freaks out there. Okay. Listening to us right now. Remember, when we see each other, we say, hey, I'm a foot freak. Remember, that's just something we're doing. And we're doing it all the time. I've got three guys here whose hustle is a podcast that makes no money. And it's probably peaked already. I've got Aaron out in California. Aaron, how are you doing? You know, Jay-Z said on this album, there's too much. And I got to be honest, as a person who lives on the West Coast, I'm going to, I'll be the

[04:05]one. I'll be the one to let people know when there's been too much. Okay. Let's not let Jay-Z step in on that one. We just need to shut this shit down. Just play the final credits. This is done. I was wondering why when you were walking to the Zoom camera, you looked like a cowboy. He had a wide stance. I thought it looked like you'd been wearing a wet swimsuit for a while, but now I realize that it's. Oh, no. It's burn. You got a rug burn. I got Matt in Minneapolis. Matt, how are you doing? Great. Great. Thanks. Thanks for having me.

[04:30]Nothing perverted. You want to say, man? I'll refrain. Okay. Yeah. I'm thinking about his mother-in-law. Russell, how are you in Minnesota? Russell, how are you doing? I wanted to take this time to give you all a piece of my mind. At concerts, I sit in the upper rows wearing expensive Rolling Stones themed clothes. For this stupid show, I sip on knockoff cocktails with spitting my vintage flows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's our dumb shit listeners. They can't knock the Russell. Oh, they can't knock the Russell. It's so good. And you know what?

[05:00]Let's listen to those dumb shit listeners right now. So stupid. Oh, Russell for me. Dumb shit listeners. And Russell. You probably want to know because you ask all the time at this point. It is 802-277-BECK. If you text or email. Yeah, I guess email because we're good. It's all. It's all together. Okay. It's all Amazon. You know, you guys know what I'm talking about. Let's listen to our first Bext. Nice. And I just want to say this was pretty similar to a lot of the Bext that we actually got this week. Oh, no. Oh, no.

[05:30]Squeeze, squeeze, squeeze these nuts. Please, please, please bring Russell's concert date in for an interview. So can we bring your date on the show? What would it take? What do we have to do to get your concert date to come on the podcast? And we interview her. We need to get to 500 downloads an episode. We're not even close to that. So that's not going to happen. Oh, my God. The only thing I will give you guys is I will tell you, I'm going to give you a little bit of insight, a little bit of insight. My date. Did listen to the episode.

[06:00]She wanted to hear the story. Make sure I, I, I did. I did tell the story correctly. So she listened to it and there were two pieces. So I'm back on hinge. The first, there were two pieces of feedback via the text. When she told me that she listened to episode. The first was there was a lot of poop talk. So there was a lot of poop talk according to her. And that was her first takeaway. I don't remember that at all. I don't think there was. I, and then there's secondly, there may or may. Not have been a mention of annoyance that I brought up the price of the t-shirts.

[06:34]I'll just say that don't bring up that your date is not happy that you may have overspent on the t-shirts. That's something that's got to stay. You keep it to yourself or you keep it on the post game show life lesson learned. Don't talk about the cost of the t-shirts. So, yeah. So I have to say that is one. And then we got another voicemail. So guys, 500 downloads. Russell will bring the data. We could do another Beck to the wives of Beck. Did it better? Russell. Huh?

[07:00]You could host that. We could, they could all meet each other. I think that's a thousand downloads right there. An episode that happens. You see me at the Apple store. You see me at the Apple store with all the iPads download, download, download. I have a reasonable doubt that that's ever going to occur. And then we also got this voicemail from our number one listener right now. Sorry, magic. Magic. Mike has not done shit lately for this podcast. I just want to say, and instead the new best listener award goes to Patty.

[07:30]Patty is back with another email to the Beck's line somehow. Is this Patty from Minneapolis? Last time the stones were in town. Matt actually tried to make it possible for me to go with him. I have a disability, which would have made it difficult, but he was down for it. He said he'd take me to the men's room if need be. What a doll. This year, Sarah told me he was at the stones. And I said, that asshole. My husband said, no text, no call. No email.

[08:00]Well, I love you, Matt. So, so man, she got one chance. The mother-in-law, you said, listen, I know that you, you know, we've got some special needs or whatever. I'm going to bring you to the concert. You know, get this family on my goddamn back. I'm going to carry him to the concert. We're going to have fun. Fast forward. Fast forward. Ghosted. Nothing. What happened, Matt? What happened, Matt? I think, I mean, I think we've all, we all get to this point, right? We're like, you know, when you're, when you're dating. Oh no.

[08:30]You have to. Oh man. You just, everything is great. You're buying Christmas presents and all that stuff. Make an extra effort. Well, I think we're like 11 or 12 years in kind of a thing. And you just kind of forget. Am I right, Rosie? I mean, you get to a point and you just kind of forget about your in-laws. Am I right? That's a great question. When do you guys stop caring about like impressing your in-laws? Have you guys reached your, reached that point or not? I mean, we know Aaron has it because a few weeks ago, he refused to tell the story about meeting his father. His father-in-law because something inappropriate had to have happened.

[09:01]I pictured, I pictured Aaron going out to the freezer, right? And opening the freezer. And so his head is hidden, but his naked lower torso is obviously, and then he closes it. And then there's a father-in-law right there. That's what I'm picturing in my head. And Aaron's like eating like a popsicle or something. I mean, just something like that's, that's what I picture. And I think I'm correct. Aaron, are you still trying to oppress the in-laws or not? Yeah. Once in a while. Yeah. But I can see that like. Sometimes you kind of are like, well, I'm, you know, I like, and Matt has given them

[09:34]grandchildren. So like, that's also, you know, now it's like the grandkids job to impress the in-laws. Like, that's not your job anymore. Like, yeah, that's your kid's job. Yeah. And they're supposed to take care of like my kids. I can just go over there and take a nap. Right. Right. Your children are supposed to charm them now. Like you did it for 10, 11 years. And now that's like, you're passing the torch. To be fair. That is true. Like if you, if you're in the stage where you have kids and you just want to get out for a concert, I'm guessing. You better be careful.

[10:00]The last thing you want to do here is take your mother-in-law to the Rolling Stones. Right, Matt? No, I would absolutely. Honestly, I would, I would absolutely. I went to Nora Jones with Patty. We went and saw Nora Jones. So Matt's saying Patty next time. Not, not this time. It wasn't this time, but the next time, the next time the Rolling Stones are in town. So I just, yeah, I needed to go out with, with, with some of my friends, you know, I just needed a little bit of separation just one night off. But the next time hit him up. Hey, you know what? You know what, Matt? Patty should have said, she should have asked you politely.

[10:31]How would she have done that, Rob? She would have had to say, please. See, I think Patty's smart because she's not asking to go with Russ because she wants to get some good tickets. She's like, please, please. She's like, Matt, please. I know you're watching the prices all the time. Rob, how, how's your father-in-law, Rob? Like, is he fun to hang out with? Like, is he a good guy to. I do. I, you know, don't make it sound like I say different stuff when we turn off the podcast. Don't laugh like that. You know, I have a good time with him. He texted me a picture of just an alien head the other day. Just the alien head emoji.

[11:00]And I was like, this bill freaking gets it, man. He, we're down. I did take my mother-in-law though, to a two life crew concert. So that, uh, we had a good time there. I need to know more about that. Is that a true story? Okay. No, the idea of taking your mother-in-law to a concert is insane. That is an insane idea. Patty, guess what? You're nuts. If you want your brother-in-law, your son-in-law to take you to, I'm telling you right now, if my daughter marries somebody and the guy was like, Hey, I'm going to take you to a concert. I'd be like, absolutely. Yeah. This is totally inappropriate.

[11:30]We cannot be going to a concert together. What if they wanted to talk about power lifting with you? Then would you go? Oh yeah, of course. I mean, that's anybody in my vicinity. You guys know that. That's I'll talk about that all day. Fast forward a couple of minutes to my role and go on today. That might've made a mistake. I think we should probably issue Matt's mother-in-law an apology because Matt didn't invite her to this. I agree. I think so. I think so. Patty, our number one fan right now. This is for you. And now an apology from Beck. Did it better? Apology. I'd like to take this chance. He probably hasn't heard this one.

[12:00]Matt can't believe this is his life. Beck does it better podcast. That's what the eff it wants. Let's get into our rolling going. Is it time? It's time to see what everybody's up to. It's time for rolling going. Oh yeah. Aaron, rolling going. What's going on with you? Oh, it's yeah. Did your kid hit you in the nuts this week? We, how many, how many days has it been since you've been hitting the nuts by your kid?

[12:32]I think it's been about eight. No nut punches today, but we did have a great day today. Today. Yes. His school was closed today for veterans day. So we took a little family trip to Sonoma, to the children's museum of Sonoma County. And I got to drive because my wife had to do some work in the car. And my son immediately told me that he does not trust me to drive. He said, dad, he said, dad, you're driving. And I said, yeah. And he said, I don't want you to drive. I said, why not? He said, I don't trust you.

[13:00]Yeah. First, first of all, dad, you're sitting next to me in the back seat. I think that's problem. Number one. He said, he knows who the real driver is in the car. I'm not going to talk about anything that I ate today because I didn't eat anything that exciting, but I did. I drank a key lime LaCroix. I get it. I see why people drink these. And it's really tasty. What is LaCroix? A sparkling water. LaCroix. LaCroix. Oh, Jesus, Aaron. You know, you guys know LaCroix is French for, uh, LaCroix. I didn't realize that, but yeah, I did know that.

[13:32]So I drank a LaCroix. It was really tasty. I thought it was English for LaCroix. I get why people like that stuff, but my real rolling going. Can I stop and ask you something about Sonoma though? Yeah. Isn't Sonoma, that's not like wine country, but there is wine made in Sonoma, right? There is wine country. Sonoma County is actually really big in terms of like land. So you go, you go to wine country and instead of going out to drink wine, you go to like the children's festival or something. We went today. We went to the children's museum. Because we had Wallace with us and we were, we were also working.

[14:02]So, you know, like if you go to a children's museum, you can take a few phone calls here and there. If you've got to like do some work. That's sick. But we were not, uh, we were not tasting any wine. Uh, but the actual town we went to. I would fire Aaron's ass so fast. Oh my God. The place we went is actually, is Santa Rosa, which is actually a better beer town than a wine town. That's the home of Russian River Brewing. But, uh, yeah, no, we didn't do any wine tasting today, although we drank. Aaron, this is your boss. This is your boss calling.

[14:30]By the way, I'm doing the phone thing with my hands for people. So you really get the job. Uh, Hey Aaron, this is your boss calling. I'm calling you to do your, something that you do. I don't, I'm not even sure what your job is actually. Uh, wait, excuse me. Do I hear children doing STEM activities in the background? Are they? Do I hear them setting up rapids on a river and they're learning something or other? Oh no, we're busted. We're busted. We're busted. Your kid sounds excited to learn about what lightning is. You son of a bitch. You get. You get back to work right now.

[15:00]I'm just in Sonoma County drinking wine. I'm sorry. I'm not, I'm not at a children's museum. Are they putting ping pong balls through a tubular vacuum thing and shooting them all over the place? Are they blowing a beach ball up in the air and it stays magically balanced? You guys understand, you know exactly what we're talking about. Is this a multi-level, uh, slide that your kid's going down and then climbing up the ropes and having so much fun? Is that what I hear in the background? Aaron, you're supposed to be working from your residence, not the hall of dead presidents. Oh, I'm not from presidents.

[15:30]I'm a poet. You don't even know it. Presidents to represent me, but I got so many of those guys were so racist too. I mean, I think about I'm the, I'm the one who's supposed to bring us down on that tip, right? Sorry, Aaron wanted to pull the brakes, wanted to pull the brakes on your story. Go ahead. My real rolling going, because I know I have a reputation out there of saying something boring first and then something slightly less boring or more boring. Is that reputation you have? Yeah. I would actually say, Aaron, nobody actually talks about what you do on the podcast ever. I don't think you have a reputation.

[16:00]Oh, he does. He's the, he's the guy who eats dandelions. Yeah, that's his reputation. That's a good thing to be known as. People think about you, Aaron, on this podcast, the same way we think about like walking through air. Like you don't come home from work and everybody's like, Hey, how was your day? He's like, well, I walked through a bunch of air. Like it's just there. Like it's just something that happens. That's your reputation on the podcast. So this album, you're kind of the vanilla khaki pants of this podcast. This album, Reasonable Doubt is from 1996. I knew that. So in 1996, I was a junior in high school.

[16:32]It is, it has come to light that on YouTube exists a full high school football game with commentary in which I played in my junior year of high school in 1996. What position were you playing? I was playing left guard. Oh, so you, so they called you all probably like every play. Like, look at this guy. I don't think, yeah, I don't actually think my name got called up, but have I stayed up too late multiple nights and watched the entire game?

[17:01]Yes. Oh, glory days. We call that glory days. Have I forced my family to watch the game with me? Yes, absolutely. Yes. It includes such highlights as my team throws a wide receiver pass, like a double pass. Yeah. And for some reason I, as the left guard end up 40 yards downfield celebrating with the wide receiver who looks at me. No, no, no flag. I was, I was no flag, but I had this habit of running downfield to celebrate. Like, as my quarterback is like, you know, pancaked in the backfield and like, I get, I like run

[17:34]35 yards downfield to celebrate and the wide receiver looks at me like, what the hell are you doing here? But also fun fact for our football playing football fan listeners in that game, I was playing against Jamie Burrow, older brother of current NFL quarterback, Joe Burrow. So if you can think about that, if you know how old I am, Jamie was a year older than me. Joe is now a second year player in the NFL. I mean, this is pretty amazing.

[18:00]We need to shut this shit down. That is amazing. Aaron played guard against the older brother of some quarterback. No one's ever heard of him. Well, you know what's, but you know, what's even weirder about that is that Aaron, Aaron played three man football, right? So those are like, those are the only people on the field in Iowa. Three man football is one of the biggest ones they have where only the guard can cross the 50 yard line. Like the receivers and safeties can't, but the guard can play both ways. If you get, if you get big enough, you get beyond the one-on-one football.

[18:30]He's not just a left guard. He was the only guard left on the field for the three man football. That's what left guard meant. Aaron, it's also come to light that at the time you were in high school, your school played, what did they play? Three on three basketball where you could not cross the mid court line. No, that was before the last year before I got to high school, I think was the last year of six on six basketball in the state of Iowa. We six on six. Yeah. So, so six on six. So you have three people on offense and three people on defense and they, especially two half-court games of exactly male and female.

[19:01]Cause that used to be just like an old female thing. It was just the ladies. Yeah. Iowa, Iowa and Oklahoma were the last two states to play six on six. If you play, if you play, you're saying, if you play offense, you can't go play defense. If you play defense, you can't go play offense. You got to stay in your head. That is correct. It's basically two split three on three games. Yeah. How fucking old are you? Like, I don't get this. Like, do you remember world war two? Like this, this is crazy to me that we would at the same time have like a computer. And at the same time, somebody would be coming home and being like, Oh dad, I'm so mad.

[19:33]I played defense this week. It's like, what? I mean, can you imagine playing defense on the three on three basketball team? It would be terrible. It'd be like, you just see, you see your teammates like scoring and swishing. Everybody's cheering. And you're like, you're just side to side getting exhausted. Terrible. Terror. It'd be humiliating. I have, I have two things. One, Matt, I'm convinced I would be the greatest Iowa basketball player ever because I would play defense. But instead of when I would get a rebound, I wouldn't pass. And ahead, I would always shoot from half court.

[20:01]So I would leave the league and rebounds and I would always shoot from half court and our offense would just hate me, but I would win like player of the year. I would have been four time Iowa player of the year in Iowa. I would have just gotten like steals, rebounds, blocks, and then a ton of three pointers. I don't know if they have a three point line in Iowa or not. I'm guessing. I'm just guessing that given these rules, they made some rule about you can't shoot from the other side. I don't know. Yeah. I believe they outlawed dunking for a dual Jabbar.

[20:31]Like it would have been the, the Russ rule where like you cannot shoot half court. Like, cause this guy's one Ford state state player of the year words. So what did they do? I mean, literally the defense would rebound it. And then what I, what I picture is like the ref goes and gets the ball and then they slowly walk over to the offensive side and hand them the ball. Like it would be so boring to watch that. I think they still had to get the ball. Like I, I mean, I got to, I should, I should know this because I watched a lot of games as a kid. And I think my high school won the last, uh, six person, uh, state championship. State title. But, um, I think they still had to cross the center line, but you could only dribble once

[21:05]before you passed it. Uh, so obviously like every time it was just like, get up and get a big, yeah. Like you needed a big person. So like Rob, if I were playing and I got a rebound and my offense was waiting for the ball, what would they have screamed to me to get the ball from me? I'll tell you what though. Oh no. Hold it down. Uh, but I think, I think the most impressive part was the fact that I was able to get the ball. Was that Aaron, the basketball team's coach was, uh, James Naismith.

[21:32]And he was the one who also hung up the peach baskets. But you know what? Like while we're here, before you, before you move on, just, just, just shout out, just shout out to Dara Sharf, shout out to the Voss sisters, shout out to coach Dick Rasmussen, shout out to coach Scott DeYoung, shout out Erica Juno, shout out Tracy Jones, shout out Lindsay Eggly, all of my folks who won state titles, shout outs to all of them. Cause we had a dominant girls basketball team. Matt's going to shout out that broomball coach. He had that ever Kim Niederlucky or whatever her name was. She probably didn't want to say that.

[22:00]Somehow you remember. That's so good. You nailed it. Aaron, what was that coach's name? Coach Dick Rasmussen. That's what I'm going to start calling him a P. You idiot. All right. All right. I actually had two other questions about Aaron's rolling going. The first was Aaron mentioned racquetball. I used to play racquetball with both Rob and Aaron. Matt, I don't remember playing with you, but we may have played back in the day. But one thing I remember is Aaron was the king of hitting the ball into your back as hard as he could. He would do it. At least twice a game. And Aaron, you need to admit now,

[22:31]were you doing it on purpose just to make people wary of where they played or was it on accident? I don't, I mean, there's no way it's because Russell and I standing in front of you took up a 50% of the racquetball court. It had to have been a mix. I definitely did it on purpose a few times. I know I did it on purpose to our friend Zach, but I don't know if I did it to you guys. I don't know if I did it to you guys. I don't know if I was good enough to do it on purpose. I can't remember who I was playing, but God,

[23:00]we did play a lot of right. Like we played a, we've told a lot of racquetball stories, way more racquetball than we should have for like who we are like racquetball. We would go. And instead of doing a podcast, we would go play racquetball. You would have think at some, at some point we would have gotten better shape after playing on that racquetball. I think we thought that was going to do it. You played until Russell's shirt got so sweaty. He couldn't stand it anymore. And then that was the end of the game. Both better racquetball players than me. You guys are both more skilled than me. So I did have, I did have one more question too, though, about Aaron's role. And the question is like,

[23:30]so when you're playing guard and you're making your family watch this movie, are you telling your Aaron's wife at gmail.com and your son that you're playing running back? Or are you admitting that I'm the guard? Are you acting like you're the star player? No, no. I was pausing the video to say like, no, look, that's me down there. Like that's like little number 52. That's me. No, no, no, that's no, no, for sure. I was giving them the whole rundown. Offensive offensive lineman actually can be star players. Russell. A lot of people don't realize that they can actually kind of be superstars, even if maybe people don't notice. And maybe, maybe when your girlfriend comes to see you in college,

[24:00]she says, wow, you just fall over a lot. And I'm like, actually, I was falling over a lot. That can't be true because I put in hundreds of hours of my life into crafting this, what I'm doing. And for you to say, it's just me falling over. It sounds a little bit insulting. My other question, Aaron is, this is a great role to go. My other question is when you were rewatching this, did you, were you like ashamed of how bad you were? Were you like, Oh, in my mind, I was much better of a player than when you were watching now as an adult, watching you back then or not? I don't think so. I'll be honest. I mean, I knew I was too small to be playing that position and I knew I got my ass

[24:32]kicked on a few plays and I definitely saw myself get my ass kicked. But the couple of plays where I didn't get my ass kicked, I felt pretty proud of myself. I definitely saw my quarterback thrown off the back foot a lot and running for his life a lot. Oh, pointing fingers. Yeah, that was probably my fault, but no, I really, I was, I felt like I acquitted myself. Well, I almost recovered a fumble on a punt. Very close. Didn't quite get it, but it came very close. Clay Newman got it. So congrats to Clay. Hope he's listening. Shout out Clay.

[25:00]Shout out Clay Newman. Shout out Clay. Aaron went and got his screenshot from that part of the movie tattooed on his arm. He was like, Hey son, this is where I almost recovered a fumble on a punt one time. Yeah. So Aaron, was it bad when your kids saw you? So here's what I'm picturing it. This is a story in two parts that your kid sees you, you got your helmet on long flowing hair over a neck roll in the back. Yeah. And your kid goes, what the hell happened to all your hair? Like that's what he gets out of the story is like, Oh, you used to have a ton of hair. And then the next day, the second part is, has your kid like thought asked you what it's going to be like when he's

[25:33]bald and has that affected him at all? Like, has he looked at you and realized like, Oh shit, that's going to be me. Does he have that realization yet? No, that has not dawned on him yet. No, that part he hasn't figured out. His big takeaway from the game was that we were playing at night. Like that was it. That was like, what was the most interesting thing? That was the most interesting thing to him. He was like, Oh, you're playing at night. And I was like, yeah, this is me when I was a teenager. And then like two weeks later, he was like, dad, when you were a teenager and playing football at night, you usually won,

[26:01]right? And like, we lost the game that it was on the videos. I had to tell him like, ah, we lost that one. No, no, you got to tell your kids you were a superstar. There's no, well, I was a state champion. I mean, let's be real about that. That's what I'd say. I'd say football where the guards not allowed to cross the 50 yard line. I knew something was weird. Cause before Rosie got on the podcast, he, he, you turned to his son and said, kiss, this ring. And he made the sun kiss the championship ring like three times. He's like, Oh yes.

[26:30]He doesn't go to bed until he kisses the ring every night. Nightly thing. That's what we do. Yeah. That's how it goes around here. Uh, Matt, we're only going, how's it going with you? Um, I realized that, you know, we had great weather this fall in Minnesota, right? Russell, you're, you're the only one who can, you know, it was, it was warm as warm as the average, but it absolutely cut down on my prime champion reverse. We wearing season. You never needed them. And so I've been trying, I've been trying to catch up, but it's getting now too cold even. So like, I have to put like jackets over the reverse weave.

[27:00]So kind of pissed about that, that I'm lost out a little bit of season there. that's a, that's a bummer. You know, what's rude about a reverse weave is that's what Aaron used to run in high school with his two man basketball team. Two man basketball. Um, I actually, I have a, I have a VHS Rosie and I've been trying to figure out how to do this. And it's, it just sits in my back room of 1997 Richfield versus Edina football. And so somehow I got to get that because my brother was a year younger than

[27:30]me. He's on there and Joe and some of these other people that you guys know, but, um, my brother about six months ago sent me a link to a basketball game. So Richfield class of 2000, their senior year was playing against Roosevelt and it was, it was super fun to watch all those guys playing basketball. You know, I had graduated. So there's the people that I played with the year before, things like that. So that is, it, it must be fun. I mean, I can't imagine today's, I can't imagine today's youth, right? Like my kids have so many damn pictures of themselves. Right.

[28:00]Right. And so many videos, I think like my wife's taking like a second today, kind of a thing. So like at the end of the year, I love watching it. I think it's going to be 365. I love that stuff. It's fun. It's cool. But like, you know, like how many pictures of yours, I don't know if I've seen one video of myself, like under the age of 16 ever. I don't know. It's fun. It's like seeing a ghost. Yeah. I have the, the video of me being in the bad boys band. Man, if you need me to convert that VHS, I know how to do it. Cause I converted the bad boys.

[28:30]We might have to do that for a holiday special. Take a little detour, do the bad boys album. It's so good. Last thing is Rosie. I got a big, I got a big, big trip. I'm leaving on in like eight hours here. Oh God. Heading out with Joe. It could have been nine hours. If someone would have been on time. Well, that's how I usually feel about all our episodes. We're about to start recording. This is why I sit here and wait, twiddling my thumbs, but you know, nevermind. I apologize guys.

[29:00]I, I, I got my centrals and Pacifics and Easterns mixed up today. So yeah. So I'm heading to Iowa driving down. Part of it is a stop at diamond Joe's to. So our friend, so our friend Joe, who, when we go to Las Vegas, he won't go eat at any fancy places because if he spends, you know, like 50 bucks at a buffet, that's $45 that he's not able to spend on betting,

[29:30]like San Jose state versus Pacific on some like random Saturday, 11, that Joe degenerate Joe. We got that Steve. We got that Joe. I honestly don't know. I've never seen Joe eat in Las Vegas. Like I've eaten, I've eaten burgers with you guys, but I don't think I've ever seen Joe eat at all. No, I think he's just, no, he's a true degenerate. Yeah. He's a, he's a loser. He's a loser. I mean, Hey, I get, I don't think they reimburse you for meals when you're on a work trip. When you work at. Well, the worst part is the worst part is though, is that when I was,

[30:00]when I was with Joe in Vegas, this is, this is what a degenerate is, is that he literally, we found a quarter that had, it was Idaho on the back. And so we bet the Idaho state basketball game, uh, Boise state and Idaho, which I didn't even know was a college. We bet that as a parlay. And I was like, we should do this. And he was like, that's one of the greatest ideas I've ever heard. And I was like, Oh man, you're a loser. You are a huge loser to agree with me on that. Somebody has got to stand up for us. And it's obviously, it's not you. Well, you're an Iowa man. I highly recommend that they're having the state championship of a hoop and

[30:31]stick, uh, that they're doing right now. It's hoop and stick season down in Iowa. The state championship is this week. So go check it out. Uh, please. It should be, should be lots of, is that the 75 meter course or is that the a hundred meter course? Well, you know that they still go by yards there. So it is the four 40 yards. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's what we're talking about down there. Uh, so it better. You really going to stop at diamond Joe's for a little gambling. I got it. I got an itinerary here. It says seven o'clock. Yes. Pick up. We'll be at diamond Joe's by eight 30.

[31:01]Yes. We'll depart diamond Joe's by noon kind of a thing. And then there's a, there's a basketball game. Uh, Iowa's playing against like the Kansas city ruse or something. Kangaroos. They just play the gophers up here. So go to the basketball game Friday night and then the football game. But yeah, I get to, but yes, diamond Joe's, you have a two hour and a half hour stop there. That's all. That's all I get. Matt having a written out itinerary for his vacation is one of the least surprising things I've ever heard in my entire life. It's not me. I am. Yeah, this is, this is Joe. He has to make sure that he gets just enough gambling time.

[31:33]How many bets? Cause you guys can picture Joe, right? With all of his bets and he's, and he's fumbling through them. What a loser. You know, Russell has this thing, but he's fumbling through it and looking, you know, thinks he missed one, you know, things like, meanwhile, when I'm in Vegas, I'm wearing fine clothes. I'm going to museums and getting culture. Okay. Don't have time for sports gambling, not, not really my thing, not interested in it at all. We do some, one of these, one of these times we need to go to a concert for real.

[32:00]I know we talk about it, but we really need to do it. Russell. Oh yeah. We'll see you there. Yeah. I've been to, I've been to diamond Joe's once. I went on a road trip. We were going to Kansas city with a few buddies. A few of them are dedicated listeners of the podcast, but on the way down, we stopped at diamond Joe's. We went in and we were going to play blackjack for a while. None of us want a hand. We lost like a combined thousand dollars in like 20 minutes. We went and got back in our car. And then there was a car wreck in front of us. So we sat in traffic for like two hours. It was the worst casino experience ever. It was horrible about,

[32:30]about a diamond Joe's. What was more horrible that, that casino trip or going to the Rolling Stones concert? They're about fucking even. Russell, have you not learned your lesson? Have you not learned your lesson about what not to say about that Rolling Stones trip? My God. Oh yeah. Sorry. Rewind that. But no, the Rolling Stones was probably a little bit better until I heard how much fun Matt had. And then it made, it worked. So yeah, it was diamond Joe's. Rolling Stones. Russell could barely hear anything,

[33:00]but he looks out on the floor and he sees Matt going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just gets so mad. He's like, what's going on down there? I hate this. I, the, the best part of diamond Joe's was getting like a subway sandwich. Cause they have a subway in the casino. Whether the subway was better than the tacos I had at us big stadium. So I'm going to take this. Can you imagine a sadder site? Here's, here's Russell sitting down to a blackjack table. He pulls out from in front of him, a plastic bag, subway opens it up. Meatball sub. He's eating a meatball sub, spilling it all over.

[33:31]Nobody cares. He doesn't say anything. Loses $300. Goes to his car. Guy next to him is ashing into a sandwich. What kind of, what'd you, what kind of sun chips did you get? Oh, I got the blue kind or whatever. You know, it's blue and red. We don't know what the flavors are. Red all day. No way. Cheddar. Oh, red. Oh, so much better. The cheddar fingers. Oh yeah. I'll fucking kill you Aaron. Okay. I will come over there and fucking kill you. Shut the fuck up. Things are really taking a turn once again. I mean,

[34:01]your son saw championships and now we're fighting about sun chips. So I got invited. My rolling going is I got invited to lift in March at the Arnold in Ohio. Every year. Arnold Schwarzenegger sets up a strength expo where basically it's like the biggest, it's like the biggest strength event in the United States. And so because I was a national champion this year, I just get to go because I, but it's like the, it's going to be like, because you have bodybuilding and power and power lifting and strong man.

[34:31]And so like the best of the best in the world are there. I can only imagine who's going to attend the 40 year old fat guy power lifting competition. It's going to be like me and Jenny and the judges in a room. And that's going to be the only people watching. And all the foot freaks listening right now, all the foot freaks right now are going to show up. They can come on out. They're going to want to see you in person. I mean, cause you know where I'm going to go. I am going to go straight to the female bodybuilders and I will be there for three weeks. Three straight days. I will not move. Okay. And I'm going to dress up like a chair or my face is my face is the seat.

[35:03]Is this in Vegas or is it in Iowa where you can only use one arm to lift the bar? Like Iowa power lifting meets where you can only use your right arm to lift the bar. You have to lift a big thing that says a hundred pounds on it. Let me ask you, are you still thinking about me disguised as a chair? Is that what you're thinking about? And then leading into the, my chair just said, good luck to me when I stood up,

[35:30]my chair is a good luck. That can't, that can't be right. Oh, my chair has multiple speeds. Who could imagine? Why would the charity, my chair, my chair seat has a mustache. It said, let me clear off a space for you to sit. And then he went like this real loud. That can't be good, but see, yeah, I'm going to go see the female bodybuilders and admire their physique and stuff. So I think, but my question is this work, there's a chance I'm going to more like body of twerks,

[36:01]sit on this. The best thing about these jokes on this particular night is Jay-Z would approve of all of them. Jay-Z would really like I, sometimes I feel bad about like what we're doing to the artists in question and like Jay's all in on this. We don't need to spend too much time on this album. This album is Jay-Z, Jay-Z, of course, famous on female bodybuilders sitting on my face. Part two. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no.

[36:30]Huh? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Yep. And then meanwhile, right? You're the one in trouble. Cause you're dressing up like a chair at a female bodybuilder meet like, excuse me. That's probably what's going to happen. He's gonna be like, excuse me, sir. You have to leave. You're dressed up like a chair. I would advise not doing an Arnold impression when you meet Arnold. I mean, maybe you've already thought of this, but I was going to say this is much better than the Hulk impression.

[37:00]I think this is a pretty darn good impression. I think if I stand there, I think here's the plan. I think if I stand next to him and he says, Hey, that was unbelievable out there. Great lifting. I'll be like, Hey, this is like the movie twins, right? That's like a good gag. Him and I think that's, I think you should, you know, you're growing. It looks like you're growing your hair out. I think you should like get the exact haircut that Danny DeVito had. Yes. You know, just figure out, just figure out whatever he's dressed. You know how they dressed the, they had the exact same suit when they came to town and stuff like that. Just find out what he's wearing. Yeah.

[37:30]If you had the little gray suit on that would be amazing. With the red tie. Uh, let's talk, get to Aaron's favorite part of the show. You skipped me. I'm only going again. Oh my God. I did. I would love to know. It's the second time in three weeks. Russell rolling, going, how's it going with you? Oh, we can just skip it if we want. Yes. This is how we know it's going to be a good one. No legit. I have to go. Yeah. Yes, of course you get to go, Russell. We don't say, it's Thanksgiving. It's Thanksgiving. This is coming out right before Thanksgiving.

[38:00]You know, some of us look ahead for times, Aaron, Matt, Robbie refused to look ahead to what's going on in the world, but I'm looking ahead and it's Thanksgiving best Thanksgiving songs of all time. No, I don't have a list. I don't have a list, but what I was wondering, so I've kind of reached the point where, you know, I'm a little bit older. That's the family Thanksgiving song. Yep. All right. We got it. So what I was wondering is I've reached the point where I'm a little bit older. I don't have kids like you guys. And so at some point your extended family get togethers start fading away and they just

[38:32]go away. And so whether you stop hanging out with cousins, like at some point in life, you stopped going to like Thanksgiving with your cousins, right? Right. At some point in life, you stopped maybe going to Thanksgiving with your brothers and sisters at some point, right? It's just your family. And so I think I'm kind of reaching the point where my brother and sister, they, they're a little bit further away, but they've got their own kids. They've got their own family, their own traditions, which is great. But at what point is it okay for like,

[39:00]at what point did you guys stop doing like the extended family for Thanksgiving? You're like, you know what? I don't need to spend this much time with my extended family. It can go away. I'm just doing my own thing with my own, the, the, the people underneath my house. I think logistically, it happens. Why do you have people underneath your house? I think you should ask yourself what's going on. There. I think half of it is just logistically, right? Like your brother gets married and then all of a sudden like his, it's a huge deal for his wife's family to have Thanksgiving. So they just all of a sudden drop off and they're going to spend all the time over there. Or, you know,

[39:30]like my family, we had, my mom's got six siblings. So eventually it just got, there's not a house big enough to hold all the cousins and all of their kids and everything. And so then one family kind of drops off and then it just kind of goes away. And then it just kind of goes away. And then it just kind of goes away. And then it just kind of goes away. And then it just kind of goes away. And then it just kind of goes away. And then it just kind of goes away. And then it just kind of goes away. And then it just kind of goes away. And then it just kind of goes away. And then it just kind of goes away. And then it just kind of goes away. And then it just kind of goes away. And then it just kind of goes away. And then it just kind of goes away. And then it just kind of goes away.

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