Miles Davis: Bitches Brew (1970)

[00:00]In 2020, four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums decided by Rolling Stone magazine. This resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music, excoriated the order, and led us to making this podcast. We are far from experts. We promise to do almost no research. All opinions are our own, unless you disagree. Please sit back and enjoy Beck Did It Better from 1970. 1970. 1970. 1970. Bitches Brew.

[00:30]By Miles Davis. So, folks, I'm so embarrassed. I couldn't think of a intro, so I'll just play the theme song. Sorry about that. Let's hear it. I let you down. All right. If you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time, it's jazz. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, a little jazz flute is nice. Yes.

[01:00]This is what I feel like every day when I wake up in the morning. That's the energy I have. If you want to hear some jazz. I got the perfect podcast for you, Jack. Beck did it better.

[01:30]It's jazz style. Yes. Oh, yeah. That was nice. A little bit of tenor sax to finish things up. Welcome to Beck did it better. If you notice, they only had so many loops in GarageBand that I could use to make a jazz song. But I will say I did do a little bit of scatting there. A lot like probably the greatest artist of all time. The scat man. We could do this for 40 minutes. Call it a night.

[02:00]Do we go to the final ranking system? We don't have to listen to Aaron talk about this jazz album for two hours. So listen, we are talking today about the 87th greatest album, 87th greatest album of all time. Bitches Brew, a jazz by Miles Davis, of course. And we have to I have to be honest with everybody. We are pulling a double header tonight. We have just recorded an episode right before this. We're going to put up the curtain. We're going to put up the curtain. And we are now doing our second episode in a row.

[02:30]So I am starting, for example, at 1230 a.m. New York time. So if things go a little bit crazy, OK, or maybe they get very, very boring, you're going to know why exactly. Listen, I've got three guys here, though, who I you know, there's nobody I'd rather be zooming with for approximately five hours straight today. I've got Matt in Minneapolis. Matt, how are you doing? I'm good, Rob. I'm good. Just getting a snack in. That's great. I've got Russell in Minnesota. Russell, how are you doing? I'm great. This podcast. My friends, it can be a whole lot of fun. We could have recorded one episode tonight.

[03:01]Instead, we did two in one night and it made it a real long run. So did you write that yourself? That's so good. Well, I took it. I took the lyrics from the seventh song or stands or whatever you want to call it on the album, which I realized about 20 minutes ago. That was not part of the original release. There are lyrics. Yes. Was he singing? So listen, we, uh, and then I've also, of course, I've got the guy who, uh, look him up.

[03:36]He looks just like the famous actor, Johnny sins, Johnny sins. I've got Aaron out in California. What the fuck is that? I don't think I want to look that up, but Matt does know who it is, though. Aaron does really look like Johnny sins. That's giving me a big nod. Yep. Johnny sins. Probably his most famous movie is called compilation. So just Google that. Just bring it. I would bring it. Actually. I would bring that and see what comes up. Aaron in California.

[04:00]How are you doing here? I mean, I'm excited. I mean, I'm excited to be here talking about miles Davis and an album that, uh, I really like. Maybe I think I like it. I'm not sure. I can't stop listening to it, but I'm not sure if I like it yet. So let's talk about it. I think that's a common reaction. Like when I put this on today, my wife was like, is this the album you guys are talking about today? You literally can't stop listening to it. It goes on for like two hours. It's impossible to stop. Oh boy. So listen, we're going to get about 30 minutes. We're going to get about three downloads on this episode. So it doesn't matter. Listen, we, tonight we've got air in or air out or air out.

[04:39]Is that Jackie? Do you know that on the drums there? You don't use that microwave. I use the dryer. No, you hang up all your clothes above your bed. All of them. Just that one thing. It shouldn't be that. Air in or air out. Oh, just the ones made of cloth.

[05:00]That's new. Just the, the, the, the, the, the ones that get super wet. I put them above my bed. Okay. So he's got, he's got Russ's club soda. Let's go. That was from last week. Last week. Soda was a week ago. I've cleaned it up since then. Listen, if you guys think I'm going to pretend like we're not recording a double episode tonight, you are wrong because I have dreamed my whole life of recording a special marathon podcast. And I'm not going to pretend like that's not what we're doing tonight. So forget it. Forget it. So you can put that in your air in or air out.

[05:30]Has Aaron always dreamed about recording a double marathon podcast? It might, it might be Wayne shorter than this, this album though, right? Wayne shorter than this album. Jesus Christ. Is that really? Miles longer. You never know. I need to edit all this out. Kilometers. Kilometers. Miles. Kilometers. I think when Aaron texted us and said, guys, double episode, we're all going to wear diapers, right? And then none of us texted back. I think that's okay. And then what's weird is that he did text us and said, I'm the scat man.

[06:01]Aaron, Aaron, diapers were assumed. You didn't need to text it. It was assumed. It was, it was okay. It was just like, this is not part of air in or air out, but this is a good test. So don't say anything yet, Aaron. I got to find my, okay. Okay. I found my dinger. Don't worry. It was, it was tucked away. I did find the dinger. Okay. The dinger is there. The dinger is, uh, acts up sometimes. He had to, he had to pull up a Bing website to chub it up a little bit before he could

[06:33]find it. Do you often have trouble finding your dinger? Is this like a normal problem? Well, listen, let's just, so this is how air in or air out works. I'm going to ask you questions. You too, Matt and Russ questions about Aaron. And you're going to see, do you know Aaron or are you air out? So the first question is what we were just talking about. And I can remember it. I can remember what we were talking about. But can you guys remember, and this is a challenge for you.

[07:00]What was I talking about? What was the first question I was going to ask about Aaron? Do you think Aaron has ever worn a diaper? Matt, do you think Aaron has ever worn a diaper? And this is just a practice round. No. Russell, do you think Aaron's ever worn a diaper? Absolutely not. Aaron, have you ever worn a diaper? Wait, what's, what's Rob's vote? You still get to play. Oh, I still do. Oh yeah, you're right. I still do get to play. This is so fun. He knows the answer. You and him spent a night in Vegas in one hotel room where you guys didn't show up the next day. We assume that. I, well, and Aaron sat on my lap because he was a baby and he was bad.

[07:31]So he did have to get spanked and changed. Don't ever change. I don't think I've ever worn a diaper. See, now I have. Okay. And that's probably good. That might surprise you. But I did dress one Halloween as a giant baby, which required me to go to the local Duane Reade and buy adult diapers. But here's the problem. You did not live in New York then. You did not go to Duane Reade then. You were living in War Road. Duane Reade is like, I probably was. I went to the. You went to the come and go or wherever it is up there.

[08:00]Oh, God. I wish they had a come and go there. Forget about it. Hannaford's is wherever. So you went to the gas station to get your adult diaper. So I went, we went to get the adult diaper and it turns out the adult diaper has a very annoying thing, which is a strip that turns green. If you have peed in the diaper, it lets everyone know that you've peed in the diaper. Great. When you don't, when you want to change somebody's diaper. Very, very bad. When you are somebody with, let's face it, a leaky penis. When you have a leaky penis. When you have a leaky penis, a diaper that turns bright green at a party of 20 year old

[08:32]attractive people is a bummer because it is very obvious when the front is bright green and the back is not, that something has gone terribly wrong. I mean, the way to cover it up would just be to tell everybody that it was, it was more like the chub it up style of leaky and not the take it. What? This kind of leaky. That I came in my pants. I'm going to have to say I came in my pants at this party and that's more normal than being in your pants. Well, you know what, Aaron? Just like the pre stuff. Not the fun one. The pre stuff. I get it. I think you're right. I think you're right. I'd be like, Hey, it's just, we got it.

[09:00]We got it. It's just a pre stuff. We got to cancel the mission here. This is not going to be like the second episode, the Oregon runner, the Oregon runner pre. Now here's the deal. Wouldn't that, now there's a different movie. If you Bing Johnny since pre, it's not the pre Fontaine that you're thinking of. It's different. This is, we're going to talk about Aaron or air out. So Aaron, have you ever worn a diaper? Did I ask already? No diapers. No, I never wanted a diaper. Okay. As far as I can recall. Maybe. You think about it? You think about it? So let's play Aaron or air out. We're going to ask Aaron three questions and see.

[09:31]Wait, I thought we've been playing. How many times did you say we're going to play? No, that was a practice round. Oh, okay. That was a practice round and then Russ got us off course. Here's the thing. I'm going to ask this question right now. This will be an easy one to start with. Do we think Aaron has ever been dumped? Has he ever been dumped? Now, am I bringing this up because I want to cause Aaron pain? No, that's what I'm too sweet. I would never do that. Matt, do you think Aaron has ever been dumped? Like straight up? Straight up. Like he didn't know it was coming. Yes. Like, yes.

[10:00]Yeah. I would say yes. Not a mutual breakup. They're not both like agreeing to it. I would say yes. One time. One time it happened. Just once. Can you imagine dumping Aaron? How sad that would be. Why would you do that? Right? Yeah. Why would you walk away from all of this? Russell. I mean, the guy's got a brand new car for God's sakes. Russell, do you think Aaron has ever been dumped? I'm going to say no from the age of like 15 on, but he, but he's. I'm going to say no from the age of like 15 on, but he, but he's. I'm going to try to be humble about it and tell us about like some 12-year-old girl who

[10:31]dumped him. But I would say from the age of 15 on, the answer is no, but he'll be humble and say some girl in fifth grade dumped him. Yeah. And that problem was that was two years ago. And I think I nailed it. I could see Aaron's face. You know, he's trying to, well, now he's trying to wonder how to handle this question. You most definitely have been dumped. Okay. And actually it kind of still breaks your heart. That's what I'm going to say. Aaron, have you ever been dumped? Well, yeah. I mean, yes. So, I mean. Thank you. Here's the thing. Here comes the humble one. No. So, two things.

[11:00]You got to let me finish here. Okay. Russell is correct. I was. She was in the hospital. The doctor wouldn't operate unless she dumped me. But I think I've told you guys. I think I've told you guys this story before, but I was dumped in middle school, very briefly dated another person named Aaron and she dumped me. Oh my God. How do you go about that? That wasn't a good idea from the jump. So like she just realized that wasn't a good idea. So not Aaron from, not Aaron from Minneapolis. Not Aaron from Minneapolis. No, man. Aaron from Minneapolis. Aaron from Ankeny, Iowa. So she definitely dumped me.

[11:31]Beating somebody with your same name. Yeah. Turned out to be a bad idea. Wow. So she saw that ahead of me. But I've told you guys the story about how I went to the, when I was a sophomore in high school. I, no, when I was a freshman in high school, I went to the dance where the girls asked the guys, the crystal ball dance. Sadie Hawkins type deal. Yeah. And Angie Spooner, who was a sophomore. Oh, she was dumped by the older girl. Yeah. She was a sophomore. She asked me to go to the dance because we were in, I hate my life.

[12:00]We were in biology class together. So she asked me to go to the dance and I was like, I was riding so high. And then it turned out that she. Riding so high. Yeah. Yeah. Turned out she was, had been dating Sean Hammersley. All of his buddies the whole week before the dance were like threatening to beat me up in the hallway. But I was like, it's cool. I'm still going to this dance with Angie Spooner. I go to the dance with Angie Spooner. We do the whole like, you know, Clay and Lindsay. And everybody picked me up beforehand at my house. We do the pictures.

[12:30]We go out to Olive Garden. The whole nine. Do the dance. Get there at the dance. It gets to slow dance time. End of the night. Okay. Here's where we're going to make our money. I'm wandering around lost by myself on the dance floor. I walk. I literally walk right into Angie and Sean making out on the dance floor. My, my date making out with someone else on the dance floor. Like she, she like that corsage that you bought is like rubbing his face. He's like, oh, I love French. She and Aaron's date doing this corsage that Aaron bought.

[13:00]At which point I'm like, well, I'm not sure if I'm, is, is she still going to give me a ride home before? I don't know. Cause like, I don't have a driver's license. You know, I just did. Yes. Yes. She dropped me off at the end. You got a ride home from a girl that dumped you at a dance and was making it, but that was her boyfriend. Was Sean in the car? Was Sean in the car when he was dropping you off? No way. I don't think he was. I don't think he was. Was Aaron. That's where Aaron. That's why Aaron loves this. I sit in the backseat. It's been a fetish ever since that dance where he sits in the backseat with the girlfriend

[13:31]boyfriend up front. He's like, yeah, this is, I will say Sean was one of the greatest 800 meter runners I saw in my life. That kid smoked a pack of cigarettes a day and still ran a one 56 on the 800 meters. That dude was, this is Aaron. He's like, I got dumped once and it was by a guy who was super fast in Iowa. Like he's even got to give himself credit for that. Yeah. I do. I got to give myself credit. And he's like, Hey, I just need to find a girl who's got my same first name and I'm all over that. Oh shit. So yeah, it's true.

[14:00]I would date a Roberta. I would love it. What about a Robin? Oh, Robin. Sign me up. Robin, Rob bumping. I've got it. I've got my vows all written. It's set. No problem. Okay. Question two as Aaron. And I don't know if we've, we, I know we've talked about this. I don't know if he ever gave us a definitive answer. Has Aaron ever sent a meal back at a restaurant? Has Aaron ever sent a meal back at a restaurant? I mean, I've heard about Justin Timberlake bringing sexy back, but is Aaron sending Tex

[14:32]Mexie back? Russell, what do you think? I don't, I think Aaron is on the, I think Aaron's similar to me where it's got to be really bad for him to send it back. I think Aaron can usually find the good in a service industry or the good in the restaurant and we'll find a way to not make a scene over it. But I'm pretty sure he's sent at least one thing back in his life. I'm going to tell you, I have sent one thing back and you have to know that. He had to, he was too salty. They like put like a tablespoon instead of a teaspoon in, had to do it.

[15:01]I think Aaron's running the same situation. I'm going to say he has done it. Matt, what do you think? No way. Never has. All right. So right now, Aaron, tell us, have you ever sent back a meal at a restaurant? It was those breadsticks with Brenda or whatever his name is that started making out with Sean, the fast 800 meter runner. Angie, Angie and Sean. Can I send this meal back? It tastes like my tears. I can think of two things. I can think of two times when I've sent something back. One was at a bagel shop here in Oakland where I did bagel with avocado and avocado was clearly not ripe.

[15:35]But at that point we were regulars there and I kind of knew the owner. And so I could go to him and say, like, I don't want to get anybody in trouble, but this, this avocado. I'm going to step in and say that is not a restaurant. I'm not counting that. So. All right. All right. That doesn't count. And then the other time. Aaron doesn't send stuff back for like getting the wrong order. But if his avocado is not ripe, that shit's going back. Yeah. I'll tell you another time. I, I don't know. The other time I did send something back was on my, on our 10th anniversary, our 10th wedding anniversary.

[16:01]We went out. I had about this. I had 10 cocktails. And at one point in the late in the evening, we went out. I ordered two glasses of sparkling wine, got back to the table, realized I had purchased the wrong glass of sparkling wine. So I went back up to the bar and said, Hey, yo, I got the wrong glass. I apologize. I'll buy another glass. And the gentleman at the bar was nice enough to still count me the new glass because I admitted. So I, I'm right. He is not. He is not. I have to say. He sent that back. He sent the avocado bagel back.

[16:30]I'm right. The ruling is Matt is right. That neither one of those. He sent an avocado bagel back. He wasn't right. No, he just said I ordered the wrong drink. That's all he said. He didn't send it back. I told Blake that avocado wasn't ripe. Not a restaurant. Not a restaurant. What? A bagel, a bagel place is not a restaurant. Are you, are you sitting in a chair? That's even crazier to send that back. You just throw that away and you walk away. Aaron, were you sitting when you ordered? Aaron. No, you know, you're walking to the counter. Aaron, change your answer. This is not right.

[17:00]This, this is a terrible ruling. Wait, I got to turn up the volume. Thank you very much, Emerson. I appreciate it. I am right on that. Thank you. Okay. Obviously, Matt, congratulations. You get a point there. Aaron, did you have to pay for the breadsticks at the Olive Garden as a freshman or did she pay for them? That's a good question. I don't know. Cause it's like, it's a girl invite a guy that's, they pay for that night, right? I probably, I probably, I probably wrote a check. Like you guys remember like, oh yeah, I probably wrote a check. I probably wrote a check. Rob would have called and canceled that shit before he was home at midnight that night.

[17:30]You know, I still am nervous. To me, I think I took a class in high school. They were like, this is how you write a check. And if you fuck this up, they will not accept it. Cause I get so stressed writing a check. I'm like, how do you spell 70? If you leave some extra space here, they will doctor that up and it's a million dollars out of your account. And I still, when I write a check, I get so nervous. I'm like, oh my God. That's true. They can take it. Put that line through it. Listen. Next one. Let's hear it. Last final question.

[18:00]Has Aaron ever been in a physical fight? Not counting siblings, not counting siblings. Has Aaron ever been in a physical fight? Can we clarify? Like, does, does a scrap on like on a basketball court count like a pushing match on a basketball court? I'm going to say pushing. No. But if they grabbed, if somebody got put in a headlock, I'm going to say, yes, that does count. Okay. What about like a, what about an organized wrestling match? No, no, it can't be organized.

[18:30]It has to be organized. It could be planned, but it, it has to be an impromptu fight. They want to hurt. Yeah. They want to hurt each other. It's just anger, not competition. I am going to go out on a limb and I'm going to say, no, I think Aaron is a lover and not a fighter. Uh, and, uh, Matt, what do you think? Anybody who wears purple tinted glasses has never been in a fight. That's a good point. Okay. Appreciate you, Matt. Don't say that to. Rook flair. I'm pretty sure I saw him in purple tinted glasses. He's been in lots of fights.

[19:00]Okay. Russ, what do you think? Man, this is really tough one. I don't think Aaron's ever punched a person, but if we're going to count like a scrap, like a pushing match in high school, I would almost guarantee that Aaron is air can get air can get intense about stuff. Like Aaron and I would kind of go back and forth playing one-on-one basketball. We would never hit each other, but like, but Aaron's air can be intense. So I don't think he's ever punched someone. But if you call like a push, match and yelling at people a fight then then yes okay aaron have you ever been in a fight

[19:31]see this is a tough one because russell has definitely seen me not at my best so russell russell knows me in this in this fashion pretty well i would say no i've not been in a fight but i've been on that gray area where yeah it's been mostly in sporting kinds of competition where like i probably took it too far and did a little bit of shoving but i've definitely not been in a like let's meet on the schoolyard punch i've never punched anybody and no one's punched me i'm gonna say no fight to that i would can i can i do my best rob impression guys yeah yeah you guys

[20:04]know what else is intense what's intense camping oh camping i was gonna say that the strippers at the old circuses that would come to tell you yeah but russell knows me too well man russell we did i got it and i liked it i did go a little too far on uh on some one-on-one match but you were tough playing one-on-one basketball russell it was hard hard to play i would fight russell people want to know about our one-on-one basketball games yeah that's important that's what we're here for nobody

[20:32]wants to hear us talk about miles we're recording a third episode tonight that's what we're going to talk about that's right it's time for roll it go do you think you've played the last one-on-one basketball game you're ever going to play in your life at least the one that i will survive if i play another one my guess is that'll be that'll be my elvis moment next one is my achilles getting blown out so yeah you guys can have a discussion with my estate as to whether future episodes of this will ever air if i do play another one-on-one game russell died as he lived using his right hand for a left side

[21:04]layup all right let's pay for his own breadsticks at the olive garden because his date refused to pay russell rolling going what are you how are you doing rolling how's it going whatever what do you think rolling going things are going good last week last week we talked about etiquette but i wanted to talk music with you guys can i bring up a music situation and kind of get your feel for how you deal with music stuff let's get in the corner music podcast it's time for russell my

[21:33]advice for music is to always tell people listen to this and then look at their face when they're listening that always goes well people like that the first question i had is i i was thinking about going to see elton john this week but i had heard he's getting kind of older his music's not as good like what do you think is the right price to pay for like an aging act that you may never ever get to see again do you always want to go see those aaron i know you've talked about prince before like when you get a chance to do that you do it i ended up not

[22:04]going to see elton john but what is your guys advice when it comes to like an aging act might not be the best concert but you will never get a chance to see it again what are your thoughts i i've never i've never had like none of my best times ever have been seen old people play their songs from 20 years ago i don't know i just i i don't i don't like sitting in a giant auditorium listening to something that i've heard on the radio a million times i i don't know i just don't

[22:30]everything and then it's so expensive you're like what was this really worth it like i saw i saw adele at manson square garden i saw elton john i'm a bigger fan of elton john but i had way more fun at adele it felt like like would you say you're a big elton john guy i was a big elton john guy okay big elton john fan hello this is big elton john i think he's got a just to remind you i wrote the song jamaican jerk off a lot of people don't talk about that but i actually want to bring that up again i like how i like how big people don't have british accents

[23:02]when rob did all the cartney ones those guys had british accents but it's like when they sing they don't sing with a british accent when when when the big guy shows up there's no accent okay well let's make an edit point here ready yeah hello governor it's me big elton john i wrote the bitches back and just made a very young rob ward confused about whether or not you can actually say bitch because he heard it quite a bit on the radio saturday saturday

[23:34]man what do you think do you go see elton john for a concert like that or do you skip it it's a it's a sliding scale right i mean elton john with his skills right now should not be charging three hundred dollars to go see his concert right he can i mean this is my opinion right he can he sells out places obviously right so he's got the right to charge whatever he wants but i don't know if i'm going to pay 300 but and that's a round number i don't

[24:00]know what the exact tickets were but to go see that if elton john is playing at first ave and it's like you and 500 people right like well then i'll pay 300 bucks i'm getting that close and can see him or if he's like you know 25 but something it's just it's a it's i don't know if it's a it's a gray area for me right because like i would absolutely like if i had never seen elton john i would probably want to go see him but again there's kind of a it's kind of a you know am i gonna pay 300 bucks sit in the back of an arena and kind of see him struggle through everything

[24:33]that he's doing i don't know if that's a good experience you know i got fucked with this whole thing because you know what i realized i just got i got kissed elton john when i saw him that was his last tour that was his final tour he was never going to tour again yeah just like kiss coming back and doing tour after tour and now russ gets to see him any old joe smoke and see elton john now you should get your money back for that so i did i did not end up going to see elton john but i did go have another piano experience this

[25:00]last week i wanted to share with you guys oh yeah i went to a piano bar in minneapolis nize have you guys ever been to nize piano bar in minneapolis yes i was there the night before my wedding you were how was it aaron it was delightful we were all there we went out after the after the little dinner it was wonderful so still i'm still married so i don't remember that i don't remember being there i wasn't i there for that i cannot remember well that's right i wasn't fucking invited i was not invited to aaron's wedding let's just be very clear aaron

[25:33]aaron were you in my wedding did you have a role to play in my wedding i said technically he was like he was like the staff he was like an employee at your wedding some people would say oh it's kind of like frenching if only one person does it it's weird actually like it's not good at that point it's bad wedding invitations should be like frenching both people need to do it yeah okay there is a you're right rob i i don't know i don't know why you didn't give me an invite and i take offense

[26:01]at that i i you're correct i don't know i wouldn't have gone in my life i wouldn't i want to hear about this real slow because i got very strong opinions about so the one thing that the thing that really jumps out at me about this piano bar is a lot of times at piano bars you go and you pick a song and they just play it at nize though it's a little different it's almost like a karaoke piano bar where if you pick a song they expect you to come up and sing that song right and if you don't they'll skip it and i did not realize this so i sat down

[26:32]and you could order through an app now in a in a post-covid world or a current covid world whatever you want to call it you can now go online and you pick the songs you venmo your tip and so you just pick a song so i pick like a random journey song not thinking at all oh my god i was just like oh this is because they had a menu of songs they had a list of songs you could pick from and i just picked one that's hard to sing man to hear and i picked it i think that's horseshit too though

[27:02]having a menu i think part of the fun of the piano bar is like i wonder if they're going to know this song right i don't like that i like like them being like you picking a weird song and they would know it no i was gonna say like nize is kind of like an original piano bar right so i'm trying to think of like the like an exact uh analogy here it'd be like like nize is the manny's steakhouse downtown right down to minneapolis steak yeah you know and and like all of these new ones that pop up and the ones that are in like vegas or like in

[27:31]all of these like on a cruise ship and stuff yeah commercialized versions they're like the applebees of it's true you know like steak places kind of thing right it's like just because you bring out a steak with a big bone sticking out of it you're not a steakhouse i still call it the tomahawk though anyways and so like nize i mean like they had their own thing going before all of a sudden all of these places you know before it became cool to have like the dueling pianos right and like the bachelorette parties and all that stuff and so it's a little bit of a different scene so

[28:00]anyways matt i'm used to the other ones i've been to the other ones we're like hey michael i'm gonna go pick you know party in the usa and these guys are gonna rock it out people are gonna have fun great great great piano bar song you got bachelorette parties there so you put i just want to make sweet love to you but this one literally if you pick a song is make love to you yeah yeah hey aaron's aaron's date i'll take you to the olive garden yeah and i don't even i don't even care if you make out with the other dude who's an 800 meter champion the thing was is a

[28:32]question i was going to ask aaron for aaron and they're out has he ever been in a threesome his threesome story was the same as when he bumped into the couple making out that's right i already told my threesome story there was he's trying he didn't bump into me he was trying to get in there oh i'm sorry to interrupt your dance yeah the dance floor now all three of us are french in this is a real give and take scenario or whatever i said earlier so anyways i'm sitting at this piano bar and i picked the song and they start calling my name but i'm not i'm not going to

[29:01]go sing if it's if it's a johnny cash song if it's something in my range but i wasn't expecting to have to go sing journey journey and so and you also realize other people didn't know this is how the piano bar worked either because people had signed up for songs and they would call them out and then they would call their name and their friends were like pointing at them yeah i have to say this was a great thing about this piano bar the the bartender like walks out behind the bar and is pointing at this guy like here is the dude who ordered the song he needs to go up there and

[29:31]people wouldn't go up there but what are your guys thoughts on requiring the the audience to go sing at a piano bar well the other thing is is this is this is a new nice piano bar right because the other one got torn down i mean the original got torn down and put a they paved it's still got a player though yeah but like you know but like it hasn't been around in like three years right so like it's not i mean it's not the same crowd you know kind of a thing and so i don't know it

[30:00]feels like it's a good niche thing but and kind of fun to call people out but you can't i mean obviously can't force people to do it but i mean people quick people quickly catch on with the modus operandi if i went to a piano bar and i had to hear random fuckos sing a song i would be so mad yeah exactly furious i'm not here that's a karaoke bar i want to hear those karaoke i'll go do that and so that's what i thought too rob because i would say about 30 of the people who went up and

[30:30]saying we're very very good but the other 70 were very bad and you're like wait why am i even here right now i mean you're at a bar and like that type of bar is not going to have good drinks they're going to have the worst old-fashioned you've ever had in your life right the bartender is too busy coming out and pointing at people he doesn't have time to make it to old-fashioned no but they did ask whether you wanted it wisconsin style or not which i do appreciate no fuck that do you guys do what wisconsin style old-fashioned or not no nobody does sweeter right

[31:00]it's an abomination brandy instead of whiskey right yeah it's it's an abomination to the drink world the fact that we even put up with it minnesota is ridiculous you we you don't live minnesota uh it doesn't i don't want to get too philosophical but it does seem then what people are missing and i don't know what the way to fix this is but people are missing a a good chance to go out and hear live music there's there are so few opportunities to go sit at a cool bar yeah drink a good drink and hear hear a live band that it's

[31:32]either you got to go and pay for a 15 000 seat show yeah or you go to first ave and those shows can be hit or miss if it's not what you're feeling and there's so few chances to just hear somebody play good music on the piano or you can go to a you can go to a jazz club and you can go to the $150 and maybe it's good maybe it's not but it's tough like it's a hard hard hustle man i can't i don't know what the answer is universal basic income probably yeah socialist right snuck it

[32:01]in there you guys heard me yeah my favorite way to my favorite way to listen to music is seen my date make out with her boyfriend who i knew she had at the time not a surprise should have clocked the guy at the day there was like a week in there where they i thought they weren't together and i was like you know i was like sure jason gassman's gonna kick my ass but like maybe you know we have still work we have we have dozens of listeners right and i'm pretty sure a couple of them in minneapolis but hey we do not just a warning we don't have a dozen listeners on a jazz album we have maybe i'm like okay so this is so this is even better so like we went group of us went to this place

[32:34]called volsteads which is like on the lynn lake area and it's like this speakeasy thing where you gotta find the spot yeah and you get to go down and it's great and that's where i found this this jazz uh trio at the time or maybe it was a quartet but the ct lincoln so charlie lincoln and yeah and it was awesome and there was like 20 people there and it was awesome to watch that you know and so he's been around he's been all these other places

[33:00]it's just too late he plays on like thursdays at like 10 o'clock right i'd love to go just go hang out you know but that's that's the nature of the beast ice house is always having people in minneapolis you know for cheap 10 bucks go watch all this stuff and so there's places around you just have to find them but it is a little bit of a you know with kids and everything it's tough so i can't wait till my kids are grown and out of there and i'm retired and i can just go sit in a jar in a jazz band or in a jazz bar jazz i got my band jazz i got my

[33:31]band watch some jazz drink some old fashions and wake up at like nine o'clock man matt i am with you yes i i i've seen live jazz at a bar once in my life and now yeah i wish i had done it more often in my 20s like i lived like mccoy tyner played at a bar once in my life and now yeah i played at the dakota when i was living in minneapolis working at a school like i could have gone to see mccoy tyner i didn't do it i'm glad you guys are focused on like wanting to see jazz but can we focus on the fact that i wasted five dollars on a journey song at a piano bar

[34:01]so did you not sing the song bullshit i assume they do venmo returns russell yeah i got no return i well that's i mean that's the thing right is that we used to have johnny cash and steve jobs and now we go to a piano bar there's no cash and no jobs something else there's somebody somebody else there no but so imagine you go to that jazz club man you go to the jazz club some fucko from the stand gets up and plays saxophone with him for one song who would want to see that no absolutely nobody get out of here with that shit bad they're good i don't i mean i don't know you know no i

[34:34]don't know answer no uh rosie rolling going how's it going with you oh well uh first thing i i know i've mentioned i don't want to turn this into a wrestling podcast nor do i want to please do nor do i want to turn it into a oh my god i'm getting so old podcast but i have two items tonight and both of them are related to either wrestling or oh my god i'm getting so old so the first is i saw today that the game triple h hunter hearst helmsley has retired from wrestling he's done man this guy russell you know

[35:07]like this was an important guy in her life like he changed the game yeah now you play it yes and he was so good at reinventing himself and constantly staying up on what the people want he used to wear like a frilly pirate shirt and have an english accent and all of a sudden when he was hunter hearst helmsley and then all of a sudden he's triple h and he's this tough guy who's coming out to motorhead so yeah you guys get it man yeah dude like this guy he was

[35:33]an important part of my life so i just want to give a shout out to triple h because he had a great career and he was an important person to me and then the other item that relates to me getting too old and people who are important to me is that my that's all the wrestling we get you want to talk more about wrestling no no we want to talk more about wrestling guys nobody my son yesterday brought home this really sweet uh so he goes to preschool as you guys know

[36:00]in berkeley and they're a they're a zero waste school which means that when they oh my god that's such a small waste how did their pants stay up when they i would have failed out of that in a heartbeat i'm a big waste guy yeah what if you're a four zero waste school i wish we're a lot of waste going on here well they are four zero waste right yeah they are four zero waste oh you're four zero waste actually me too that's great when i go to target i have to like dig through the belts to find the right amount of waste yeah four zero thirty six thank you when

[36:34]they make uh stuff out of uh things that other people have thrown out or donated to the school that means they bring them home so he brought home i'm showing this on the camera he brought that's how there's zero waste yeah so you guys throw it away yeah hey you're not just a parent at the school you're also a sanitation worker for the school thank you so much we appreciate it you're opening that jar he brought this here don't open it yeah and it's it's don't hold in front of the camera you are breaking the

[37:02]rule about does a boy ask you to smell something you must say no i told you that last the other week it's a um it's a white though sort of substance with some crystals inside and then something well now wait now i'm actually very interested hold on some fresh flowers yeah and uh so this is a long story a thursday night meal you guys get to hear this uh he told me um dad like we asked him like wallace that's really sweet like what is this project you mean he was like it's it's lotion for dad's dry feet dad can put it on his feet wow i am so jealous you have

[37:38]the best school my kids aren't doing jack shit with my feet you know what i'm gonna take your socks off dear teachers why dad and the other day my friend got a jar sent home with cream for his feet i have noticed that my kids don't ever get a jar of cream for my feet can we please have a zoom

[38:00]meeting about this okay anna picked him up today dropped him off today and talked to one of his teachers and said hey yeah what exactly i guess i know where this is going what exactly was this stuff and it turns out that yes it's made of and he was right he told us it was coconut oil and salt it's true it's coconut oil and epsom salt and then some flowers and it's a fucking zero waste hey this is a zero waste school hey yeah hey whose kid goes to a zero waste school yeah i've got so much epsom salt i need to donate it to the school yeah okay take your earphones out so you can't

[38:33]hear it so you can't hear it they're coming out you need to take them out don't do it like the guys what is wallace absolutely heard that his dad loves feet he told the teachers and that's what this is going jesus christ i guarantee it all right oh i've got a right okay go ahead got a rob back in there you don't even want to know so wallace told us that it was coconut oil and salt and so anna dropped him off today and talked to his teacher and was like what exactly was that

[39:04]thing and she said oh yeah it's a it's a yeah it's like a it's a balm and it's coconut oil and epsom salts and you know it's it's you know for your skin or whatever and my wife said to his teacher like oh yeah wallace said that'd be great for his dad's feet and his teacher was like that's amazing sofia said the same thing about her dad so like somehow yes all the kids are concerned hey hey that guy's that guy must have a podcast where the co-host makes fun of his foot fetish too

[39:35]yeah i was telling you i was sitting on the couch the other day my kid came by i go oh i go ouch ouch ouch ouch and she goes what's wrong and i said well you know i fell off my bike and the doctor said my toes are too short and somebody needs to pull on them and they can just pick one or two toes any toe and just pull on them and they were like no so i'm telling you right now your kid is the best kid that he is giving you foot cream oh my god i would at school i could kill for homemade foot cream

[40:05]okay my kids are not giving me any foot related items ever what a disaster aaron will give you some homemade foot cream you know what when i come to visit aaron i expect some foot cream i you know what i like coconut oil and epsom salt i mean that we'll make it for you man yeah you could you could set up your cast iron with a little but aaron will probably do a little jazz while he's putting it on your feet for you too just get it all oiled up aaron oh oh aaron i don't

[40:31]want your shirt to get oily you better take that off how i've been my wife i was somehow guessing that your son had gone to school and said told the teacher that my dad's a foot freak oh no that the teacher like that one is not we do usually you know you guys know we do a post game on the on the morning after the show but we've not mentioned the foot freaks yet no that one okay good that one hasn't all right thank god he knows enough other stuff he knows yeah he knows a lot he knows about my skittles

[41:02]drinks he knows your skittles drinks he knows uh aaron i gotta ask you he literally sings aaron loves feet to a beloved christmas song there's only a moment in time before that gets out to the teachers aaron when you're in your new car and it's playing through your new speakers do you is there a point where it's playing and your son's in the back where you turn it off or do you just let it play no matter what yeah there have been points where it's like oh and then and then he gets mad he's like i wanted to hear more back did it better and we're like no it's not no sorry yeah so you're so you you unlike brian from woodbury you actually he lets it go yeah he

[41:35]just he's now explaining to his kid the double entendre that is the scat man russell that was that it for your we're at bat is it time for the rating yeah i need to step in replacement here you got me all fired up with all this foot rub talk

[42:01]matt rolling going how's it going with you oh it was a tough week i gotta say i can i interrupt i know matt you don't like an interrupt but if you say you got through like two more albums over the last hour while we're recording why would you say that why why you ruined my bit motherfucker again ruined it again by butting in okay you're so smart to think of that bit oh my god you're so funny

[42:32]guys he's the funniest guy smartest it was a rough week i didn't get through any songs this week so i can't update it so i'm still at 458 on the list sorry guys uh espn they had uh tearjerker sports movies so what movies you know tearjerking i don't know like like uh rudy or something so it was pretty good um baseball's back the twins i'm kind of excited

[43:00]i'm excited for the twins they don't have any pitching but they might have a lineup so that'll be fun to see and it's like 65 degrees out how many baseball games do you watch during the season man like full games well hardly any now yeah i mean yeah it's kind of the old thing again what we talked about i don't know four weeks ago now whatever it is that time has no meaning i used to sit down watch watch the twins yeah and now we're married but again i i found the worst thing about baseball is that it's 9 30 at night 10 30 your time 6 30 rosie's time and you think that the

[43:34]game is gonna be over in 15 minutes and then there's four pitching changes later and 16 walks and four home runs and it's a tie game and all of a sudden it's the 10th inning it's 11 o'clock i hate that about baseball you should try watching sports on the east coast like i'm watching these basketball games they're getting done at 12 30 at night for me like it's yeah but like that that's the good thing about like hockey and basketball right there's a clock it ends i mean even with the timeouts and everything it ends baseball man it drags on

[44:00]so i'm a baseball guy do you do you ever do you guys bring your kids to games are you guys the type where hey the game's gone on for three and a half hours we're getting out of here do you make your kids stay till the end or what's what's your style i've got my finger right over the button i've got my finger right over the button say you leave early come on go but like yeah i mean oh you can't stay yeah no you're uh man's kids age yeah you're uh i mean you're a glutton for punishment yeah if you're gonna make your kids stay there you know and make them be miserable and it gets hot out i mean depending where your seats are it's hot you gotta beat the traffic

[44:32]you know matt's like matt's like blaming the kid he's like the kid has got to get home and like you know traffic we know it's gonna be bad and i park real close i mean the problem is if you just park correctly right like you park out a little bit farther away you park right at the exit so if you're in a ramp this is you back in so you just drive right out and go right to the exit to all those parents out there say hi to your new daddy oh it's been a while from matt yeah it's not about what time you leave rob it's not about what time you leave it's about where you park it's about where you

[45:03]park and how you park you gotta back that shit in so you can pull right out weasel your way out look what i got more notes oysters canned oysters i am now going to eat some canned oysters i bought some now i was told i was supposed to buy crackers with this well i wasn't bought some i was gifted some i'll just put this this is like when this is like when rob remember aaron will remember this when he made us watch him eat cookies yeah before a podcast and you're like no you guys sit

[45:32]here and you watch me eat these cookies what are you talking about you guys are watching me eat aaron did he make us do it yeah oh yes jesus christ how many oysters are in there i'm not doing this there's like a hundred there's 16 just take them all down in one thing oh my god look at this guys look at what this looks like there's definitely oh my computer oh no that's really bad rob's gonna have to bring his laptop back into the it department

[46:08]gotta go to play that anymore we had an explosion of this the club soda last week and look what happened this week no more food or drink no the jingle bells the jingle bells is on a loop okay so that's actually quite bad my keyboard is so once again

[46:33]guy who got cookie crumbs in the power thing i am now gonna have to go oh my god it smells terrible aaron what did you do to me you me so hard aaron oh my god i'm gonna get fired for this i smell oysters oh my god this is so this stinks so bad oh my computer oh it just smells so bad here

[47:01]aaron what did you do to me i well you so did you eat one yet no it smells terrible oh my god it smells like oysters i mean does everybody know what happened so he was you were showing us in the zoom camera and you tilted the can and all of the oyster juice spilled all over your laptop and it turns out there is a ton of oyster juice did not realize how much oyster and then you started hitting buttons no the buttons were the um that was the computer like

[47:32]going nuts okay wait now i gotta see what's actually happening here i can't see you guys i think i just broke my computer with freaking oyster juice that's kind of delightful i'm not gonna i'm not gonna lie to you not delightful actually aaron not oh aaron you fucked me so hard yeah i don't i don't get how that happened you did you made me open this this is your bit kind of

[48:01]wait no it's not yeah it actually kind of is we are so okay listen to you it seemed like nothing went wrong in the audience it seemed like everything's fine not a big deal okay to you it doesn't seem like we just stopped for a half hour and panicked about whether or not my computer is now a victim of the oyster sauce

[48:31]spilling on the computer and by the way i would have to go into tech yet again and tell them that i got more food on my computer i just quickly and this time instead of cookies it's going to be raw oysters out of a can no all of these things are wrong first of all oyster sauce and the oil in a tin of smoked oysters are two entirely different things oyster sauce isn't is a whole different thing it's a sort of uh you know dark gelatinous sauce i know what

[49:00]oyster sauce is don't talk down to me i know what it is i have and these oysters in your tin rob are not raw they're smoked oysters so i just want to interject those two two things and then let's keep keep rolling oh okay so i'm gonna show you i'm gonna not tip don't drop look at this so there are the oysters can you guys see man matt i know you're not looking at purpose man i don't want to yeah i know i don't okay i don't want to watch this advertising

[49:30]they're not meant to look at they know they look like bugs they look like bugs of the sea which is what they are when i'm looking at them now i realize they are just little bugs and yet if i were buying these oysters on the show in new york city i would be eating approximately 20 worth right now so i have put the oysters onto a half of a hamburger bun now i did sop some of the oil off the desk with the bun beforehand so i do have a little extra flavor in there i am now going to try this uh raw oyster uh smoked oysters out of a tin

[50:01]on bread and as i said before no problems have resulted from this this is going to be worth it big time aaron did you take your did you take your date to like an oyster place instead of the olive garden is that why she ended up making out with you know now that i think about it that might have been the issue that might have been the issue if you're going to iowa's biggest oyster place you might be a big problem yeah now now that you mentioned it maybe that was the problem how are the oysters rob's chowing down he likes him he's gonna finish that whole tin telling you

[50:31]listen i had my suspicions that was absolutely delicious i love oysters out of a tin i didn't have to mess with shucking him and i didn't have to put sauce on it i ate it with bread and now my body just feels oily like i feel oily from the inside out guys that was absolutely delicious oh oh oh that feels i feel healthier i feel strong part of the show i feel like really

[51:00]strong like it's unstoppable dude oysters are good for your balls man like they're good for the the male so i'll tell you i think it's the zinc in them or um it makes them zinc down lower yeah they're so low they've sunk down low so far already aaron they do kind of zinc down a little bit yeah that's shrimp i don't know i think it's both well oysters supposed to be an aphrodisiac right rob is it a problem one of them zinc's a little bit lower than the other one no that's normal actually oh actually let's let's test that rob one

[51:31]you oil up with the rest of that oyster oil and then go hop into bed and then let us know next week how it turned out oh yeah yeah testy dad so here's the thing let's talk about what are we talking about again oysters what are we talking about davis bitches brew miles davis bitches brew which i doubt smells any worse than the bunch of raw oysters what did rob call the first album some kind of no don't remember that i don't recall that i didn't think about that every time i was doing research for this listen we're sitting here in 1969 right talking about the this

[52:01]but release uh talking about 69 sure and summer of 69 you have to realize at this point jazz is in big trouble actually jazz has been on the decline and with rock and roll becoming more and more popular jazz literally what's the stat matt from the ken burns documentary it was like 90 of all album sales and then it's yeah like it was like three yeah so however you we are talking here about miles davis miles davis has literally been at the forefront of every major movement in jazz

[52:31]right so he was there with charlie parker for bebop where they're improvising around a chord structure and just seeing how fast they can go so here we have miles davis charlie parker then yeah when you hear that like that sounds still sounds revolutionary today now he did have an album called something cool right there's something birth of the some kind of cool birth of the cool i was right oh who should have been there i was right oh who should have been there

[53:01]apologize who now which was actually taken from a whole bunch of sessions from like 48 until i don't know 52 or something so birth of cool he comes up with cool jazz which from what i can tell is just slow kind of boring jazz am i right who cares we're moving on then miles davis is at the absolute head of hard bop right blue and boogie here hard bop that's what we call it now this is hard bop yeah

[53:31]i kind of want some more oysters it's too bad aaron's high school date didn't screw that up she would have got the hard bop she was getting the hard bop just not from aaron aaron hard bopped into him when he walked in i heard by her bopped right and it was oh i'm sorry i did the oh oh so then then with kind of blue right we're talking about modal jazz with here was so what we're now instead of we talked about it but it's instead of going around the chord they're going around the distance between the notes kind of basically going up and down scales

[54:01]i forget is that jimmy cobb on the drums no then we have here we go what what aaron didn't have with the date which is post bop which he did with his second quintet yeah and here you got tony williams on drums ron carter on bass wayne shorter playing the playing the sax i mean miles said he said you know i'm i'm i want to be different like you cannot grow if you're not changing now the one thing that he would not touch is what was becoming a little bit bigger at that time in jazz it'll it'll grow whether you're changing or not which

[54:31]which is if you have enough of those oysters it's good for your balls aaron said yeah that's true they are good for your balls i don't spend a lot of time thinking about my balls so i'm not going to think about that actually a lot over the next week or so and actually maybe make this part of my regular diet um there's something out there called free jazz which is where miles didn't want to go free jazz and aaron correct me if i'm wrong but isn't free jazz just basically everybody playing whatever they want right the challenge is to go far away from being a song yeah i think

[55:01]it yes i think it was about uh let's let go of structure um because i do think most of these tunes that you played already whether they had different very various uh types of harmonic structure they still had song structure it had it yeah you know it had part a part b part c bring back part a and then let's do a coda kind of hey russell you want to hear something you're really gonna hate check out free jazz

[55:31]hey hey hey who wants to go see the scott highlands high school band i'm in i mean this sounds like if you went to a jazz concert and the piano bar only called up certain people from the was that this episode that's this episode but this is but rob i i wouldn't know this if i couldn't see your screen but this is ornette coleman right yes but i mean the thing is like i still think all these guys and and um you know coltrane also got into free jazz and uh i think his ascension album is the one that i really think of there was still a lot of people who

[56:01]at some level someone leading the whole thing there was always someone saying okay now it's your solo now it's your solo you know and there were still sketches there was still music in front of these people there were still sketches to say we're gonna kind of go through these modes or these these chord changes so that it never got all the way into like let's just play whatever the fuck we want like there was still someone trying to hold it together whether it was rhythmically structurally harmonically it was still happening so at this point

[56:31]he is also married to um betty davis she is the betty davis or the betty davis that died recently she was a big freak yeah she was the betty davis died and she saw her and you see her oh my god so she was a funk artist she died in betty davis eyes confusing yeah it's so scary in the cemetery

[57:01]that's because betty davis died i thank you very much um but basically she got him into seeing um sly and the family stone jimmy hendrix and he sees all these bands getting huge numbers with kids and he goes i have to start incorporating rock into jazz and basically this album is what comes out of this jazz fusion which i like to think about as being the opposite of what frank zappa was doing where he was putting jazz into rock miles davis is putting rock into jazz so we're seeing more

[57:31]very smart stuff to say and that's actually an original thought um i like unlike most of these the other big thing with this album that we're going to hear is tape edits which have never been a part of jazz jazz was always recorded just as a take and and this was recorded as takes too but he would go back and chop it up mix it up and uh and kind of rearrange it so that we haven't seen on another jazz album before and it worked he got a big audience his album went all the way up to 35 on the billboard top 200 one of his best-selling albums of all time except for the best-selling jazz album of all time which is also his i think the two records are two totally

[58:04]different things the first side of the first record is just one song pharaoh's dance and you can hear this the tape editing going on right in the beginning here listen to this yeah and that's what's wild about this whole especially the first two songs is that uh his producer teo macero took so basically it was the same kind of same kind of process that we talked about with uh again i'm going to talk about voodoo where it was like let's just put players in the studio

[58:35]let the tape run and then go back and listen to the tape and see what we got and that's what they were doing and then eventually like all the stuff we hear at the at the outset of the album is not the first notes that were played especially for pharaoh's dance like tamacera wouldn't put it back together later but miles famously said musical direction by miles davis miles did not want anyone else to think that someone else had control over this album and he did have control but he was also a control freak in many parts of his life which

[59:04]we may may or may not want to get into but i also think he's probably had lots of stuff stolen by white guys in studios before like this is not exactly and he didn't know this is a ray charles getting paid in ones type situation as well uh so that's the other thing about this album right is that we look at the instruments we've got miles davis on trumpet and we've got somebody on soprano saxophone bass clarinet drums drums drums percussion two electric pianos two bases one electric one string and an electric guitar so i mean all new stuff here's miles coming in on

[59:34]pharaoh's dance listen to this trumpet man it's so yeah he doesn't play for the i mean at least the way the album was put together you don't hear him for the first two and a half minutes and this album has put all of my sound systems of various like i've listened to it in head and headphones i've listened to this album a lot i used to listen to it at the gym because i'm weird

[60:01]um mostly in headphones i've listened to this album a lot you you go to the gym and you listen to this yeah back in the day when i used to go to the gym yeah aaron i i did a workout today listening to this it's fun right it's fun as shit like it puts you in a weird mindset you feel like almost like a naughty pervert because you know if anybody knew what you were listening to they'd be like what the hell but you you're like oh i'm not you know it's like when you were in middle school and you're reading like a stephen king book after taking a test natural naughty free jazz and i remember distinctly i was reading stephen king after a quiz and there was the nastiest

[60:36]dirtiest sex scene you know only like stephen king would write it like just terrible and i'm sitting there reading and i'm like i am reading a sex scene in school this is so wrong and i know it is and i love it that's how i felt listening to this album working out i love it when you're walking around in the normal world this album's in your headphones you're like oh i'm i'm on a different plane than everyone around so so how can you how can somebody listen so here we have soprano and keyboard how can we listen to especially

[61:01]these first songs where this it's this fusion idea where it's not as strong of a melody as like bob like you couldn't hum this song right no i've been i've been and uh here we got the bass clarinet from uh benny mopan which i really enjoyed uh you know it was an inspired choice for miles to choose uh mostly bass clarinet and soprano and then i've been listening to this soprano sax as the other horns which could have been particularly would have been alto sax and

[61:33]tenor sax for most of his other contests and he chose uh just listen to benny like he's really going here um i mean the the best description i read was that uh best description i was i read was like let's just treat this as like a well you already talked about the jungle at some point in in the night tonight but like treat this as like a sonic jungle and just drop it anywhere and see but um russell you asked me earlier if i was going to talk about the bass clarinet and i do think uh

[62:02]inclusion of benny mopan on bass clarinet here is great uh the other famous jazz bass clarinetist that people typically think of is eric dolphy um who i you guys know i love but russell what are your thoughts actually aaron there's a different jazz bass clarinetist that actually this was the first album that featured a bass clarinet as the lead the lead instrument i want to hear it's our guy herbie man oh man the great ideas of the western man check this out this was the one of the first jazz albums to

[62:32]feature the bass clarinet as the lead instrument this is herbie man yeah her guy that's it that's so great i did not know he played the bass clarinet i dare you to bring someone home that you want to start making out with and then put on this to play dude i mean why not i'm gonna spill oyster juice all over a bit then i'm gonna play this album yeah sorry my hands smell like garlic and my apartment smells like oyster juice i think the bass clarinet is a fantastic and in like when it gets up into its upper register i think that's just like it's a really unique sound

[63:02]i love it and if you guys remember we've heard the bass clarinet before on like a pop album it was the beatles remember that song when i'm 64 that's the bass clarinet on that i always remember it always remember will you still need me yeah i think it kicks in right here yeah right that's the same yeah yeah yeah it's just beautiful right that i i got a big kick out of the bass clarinet on this it added something totally different from other albums we've listened to i enjoyed it i like it russell i agree with you man i don't know i i feel like

[63:34]i might be a bass clarinet like if me walking around you know if peter and the wolf style like i'm walking around and it's a bass clarinet that might be me it's like the tuba version of the clarinet right rob it is like the tuba version of the clarinet you're totally right about that yeah uh let's see the tuba version of the clarinet i love that that's just the tuba is the low thing sax and clarinet counterpoint i mean listen all the echo here this is something you don't hear in a lot of jazz albums right is this distortion yeah and then here you have this is the soprano

[64:08]saxophone so wayne shorter played tenor sax for most of the albums that he did with uh the dates he did with miles previous but they they did soprano sax on here and it was kind of led to miles's interest in indian music later because of this kind of eastern sound of the soprano sax i can make a sound of a soprano sax hey forget about it we're gonna have sex now

[64:32]ah marone we're having sex over here will you pass the fucking zd on twitter today they said that they're saying madone the whole time and it's short for like madonna and i was like that can't be true right huh i don't know man i i we have a friend from we have a friend from new jersey and she was over here for a christmas party and she was like we had some prosciutto sitting out and she was like hey leave it to your friends from new jersey to come over and eat up all your prosciutto

[65:04]and like that's just how they talk like let's but did she say madone at any time or more as a person who recently re-watched uh sopranos you know and usually watching it with subtitles on it was always marone you watch with the subtitles on yeah you gotta watch everything with subtitles you gotta do team subtitles right here yeah i don't yeah if i have to watch something with subtitles i turn that shit off i'm out i'm subtitles russell you don't have a wife all your subtitles yeah you don't have

[65:35]a wife who goes to bed at nine o'clock you know kids that you don't want to wake up things like that yeah and you also pick things up and maybe you're working on your reading too like it's not a big deal right maybe that counts as reading books maybe it's a good thing i spill my oyster juice on women instead of having kids right don't say you can't oh no let's go oh you've gone too far russell too far we don't need to hear about your oyster juice all over if it's too far if it

[66:00]reminds anybody in any way of oyster juice you need to go to the hospital you need to go get checked out please i guess two pianos going right aaron i thought so i mean when i heard this because uh and one thing i read was in pianos yeah i thought it sounded like hey it was a bit let's have fran come up and say hey i'm a pianist i'm a pianist i'm a pianist i'm a pianist sing pharaoh's dance please i i don't know if i could hear this when i was listening but i and we're gonna get too too far into the night before we finish all this but i did read that when they

[66:32]remixed this they put they they considered it chicoria as the main keyboardist and then guessed because it was either been dave holland i think or joe's avenue so they put chicory on the right always and then the other keyboardists on the left whenever they when they remix this but uh chicoria uh who just passed and by all accounts from everything i read was just like a wonderful man it kind of the opposite of miles uh everybody loved chicoria we talked about him didn't he play with uh steely dan at some point is that right yeah yeah he played a time he played a ton in the

[67:05]70s he was a band leader and then played on a ton of stuff and i think people loved working with him from everything i've read and uh just passed was that um was that chick south korea or north so listen we got the groove here in bitches brew on the other side oh yeah here's where the yeah like here's where one of the one of my favorite grooms on the album so do you call this the titular track or the titular movement or these songs or what do you even call the 25 minute deals 25 minutes it's longer than some of the

[67:33]albums we've listened to yeah it's kind of long i'm saying russell's russell's guy he's saying something i don't quite understand i think it's so subtle so this is more of that before this is more of that uh i don't know it's just not that i think yeah yeah here comes injected genets laying down the groove and he got some bass clarinet yeah

[68:03]and this to me is like where he's really getting into the funk a bit what's interesting is that they're all playing together they're all watching each other right very little this is planned i mean he would tell them very little not barely even chord structures but he had a theme that he would blast out on his trumpet when it was playing and he would tell them very little not barely even there's time to change what they were doing and he listened to the theme right here for bitches brew yeah right there yeah we're gonna hear that a couple more times now here

[68:31]i mean this is a good trumpet solo listen to this yes would you say that's a pretty epic trumpet moment it is an epic trumpet moment it's like i heard i read a lot of people say this was miles at the height of his powers playing the trumpet you know what sometimes we got to celebrate the trumpet and i don't know if mad has celebrated the trumpet once before but if not we're going to celebrate the trumpet by doing a

[69:03]list of the most iconic trumpet moments in pop music history yeah trumpet 2020 i don't know if this is pop but normal music not jazz music is what i'm trying to say normal music not jazz music yeah just it's different i mean honestly like there's there's amazing trumpet players on all the jazz albums these are songs other other songs yeah normal music yeah just normal all right first

[69:30]up is from 1963 we may have talked about this guy earlier this is ring of fire johnny cash trumpets at the beginning right we do not talk about johnny cash enough ah that's a trumpet that's epic trumpet opening isn't it nice yeah happy to hear that anytime you know we used to have cash steve jobs it's a burning flame and now we've got no cash no jobs no hope well the bob hope jr but he's he's actually a really bad person canceled so the trumpet player on that guy named bill mc bill mc roseanne bill mckinney

[70:04]good point he was a musical arranger in nashville and he actually became the leader of a jazz musician band in nashville i thought that was interesting so not normal music not normal music outside the barbara it says warning not normal he was doing normal music and they went to the not normal pay five bucks and you can come up and play some not normal music with us speaking of not normal music this is also not normal but i know it's one of aaron's favorites and i like it oh yeah this is herb

[70:32]albert from the spanish flea song albert the spanish flea song also i like that russell put song at the end of all the songs yeah this is the stairway to heaven song now i don't get it because i bought a ton of this at the gas station once it didn't do anything spanish flea i don't think it bc boys lied to me no uh tone loke you lied to

[71:01]me miles davis once had a quote about heard out herb albert he said you hear three notes and you know immediately it's herb albert i mean he's not yes he's not right listen to three notes of mine yes there's also three no's when i bite somebody yes a whole note more like a bite the size of a quarter note yes no rest no for me barb albert yes an eight note damn it that's a way better one my dates all are eight notes because i bit them

[71:35]yes and i was in a hotel way downtown next time next time listen i know we already touched on the beatles earlier but this is beatles penny lane from magical mystery tour 1967 you guys will know the trumpeter right a piccolo trumpet i believe right yeah aaron used to sit on his bed when his parents would

[72:03]leave and just yell out that trumpet line on his you know that i own this i own this on cd you know that rob i mean i was more yeah you're 100 right our son is upstairs playing his trumpet again i read that that trumpet player brought nine trumpets to that audition and decided that was the trumpet to play can you imagine having too many trumpets too many trumpets i mean if you if you saw a guy with a big bag and you said what's in that bag and he said nine trumpets you'd be like dude you know you can just say you don't want to

[72:32]talk you don't have to lie to me nine trumpets how you said nine is too many how many is just right probably one one trumpet is just right that is a good number of trumpets i think one have you ever seen have you ever seen like like people that are really into bowling yes yeah how many how many balls they've got yeah well now at one point i did own two separate bowling balls but you do need a spare ball for my spare ball had the grenade in it if you remember it was stolen from my jeep yeah we used to have a there there was a ritual lane i forget god i

[73:05]forget airport lane no there was airport bowl which is on the east side of town i'm a lariat guy yeah it was owned by a family and they're in our and so these guys they had they had six balls and would you know each ball was dependent on how much oil was on the lane yeah and so you didn't know you would have to take six balls with you to each of these different these uh matches or whatever

[73:30]you have for a bowl a game because you didn't know how the oils or how slick the lanes were so yeah i've got i've got oil on my lane too but what i'm talking about is the l-a-n-e key on my computer it's on that land and i can tell you that's going to be more than a penny lane too that is a very expensive lane well if any of you guys were to be really good what the fuck that was a great joke i mean the oil get in my microphone hello hello if any of you guys were really good at bowling you know what i would give you is a trophy and that's the next song on the list this is trophies

[74:02]by drake oh drake oh great trumpet opening nice trumpet so much better if it wasn't drake so good yeah i like that last song on the list aaron you wanted this to be a wrestling podcast i've gotten a lot of texts from people saying they want more pro wrestling on the podcast so the last song on the list from here is the time my time is now the john cena theme song check out the trumpets oh look at those trumpets yes hey rob you can't see me

[74:39]might be the might be the dumbest finishing move of all time from like a top 10 wrestler right you think of like the top 10 wrestlers of all time what's this finishing move wait he hangs over the guy and does he can't see me and it goes off the left rope off the right rope and then like drops an elbow on him it is the dumbest matter your kids you can't see me do

[75:01]they pull ever pull the john cena on you or not no we don't i don't show him that crap yeah he's a wcw guy he's not forget about it he got the old vhs tapes that's down for the iconic trumpets moments of music rosie there's one there's one that's missing that's a pretty darn good list oh matt opie spody opie spody dopealicious or whatever by outcast i was gonna put that on there but

[75:31]we've covered it and i thought you also put it on another list when you did the best trumpet songs and i can remember it so spend too much time together we are together too much if you guys can tell what your favorite man is that the one i missed that's the one that is really good guys we need to take a break from this podcast we should not know each other i've been saying that for six months season one over we did it welcome back to season two we're not gonna finish this

[76:01]over like 85 uh wayne shorter on sax here hey wayne shorter this album would have been better if it was wayne shorter i want to make sure we gave gave the sex one a little bit of a little bit of love am i gonna need my umbrella i'm gonna need my umbrella i'm gonna need my umbrella today i hope it's wayne shorter not longer out there and here we have chick korea again with a solo to end the first side of the album now or to end the second side of the first lp right this album the next album is actually more it feels like bop almost like more it's just more accessible

[76:35]like the grooves are sort of more it's more yeah it's more like songs that you can kind of grab on grab a hold of so aaron when somebody who doesn't understand who's this sounds like rand what's the what's the correct term russell not real music all right i that was aaron's term not mine okay so like aaron says not real music what the fuck are you talking about aaron if somebody wants to listen to the first album of bitches brew what do they need to understand they're getting into just yeah they have to just let go of trying to understand what's going on

[77:04]when because let's see like the album wasn't even put together in a way you know someone later went through and said i'm gonna kind of make some structure out of this so you just have to try to put yourself in a mind state that i'm not going to understand this the first time through i just have to enjoy it and sit back and relax now listen to this and tell me if you think miles davis was listening to funk at the time i mean you can just hear it right is this spanish key this is spanish key first song off the second album yeah i mean you hear the

[77:35]rhythm is much more driving the groove is there it's more like they're landing on the one and then whatever goes on in between is yeah i spent like 17 minutes today trying to figure out if there was a flamenco guitar involved here so then i could play the don flamenco mike dyson's punch that song yeah turns out i can't sadly no no sadly it's more about spanish harmony or something i was reading something that spanish key is supposed to be somebody waking up and going through their

[78:00]day so there's you waking up right and now the electric piano comes in and you're kind of heading out to work things are picking up pace a little bit okay yeah i'm certainly like another day in the life kind of a thing yeah and now we get to the hook of the song i thought the keyboards on this were fantastic yeah yeah it's your career

[78:32]there's something about having two of them right where you can really it's yeah they're they're playing off each other yeah and from there we're going into a big build then we can hear that theme again coming through here yeah he really does play in a different way on this album like really

[79:01]forward it's not the it's not the muted you know sound we heard on kind of blue like he's really out there powerfully but this there's not as much cutting out of it as there is in this album it's not as much cutting out of it as there is in this there's not as much weird editing going on i mean it's a much more straightforward right jazz tune and it kind of slows down at the end as we go to bed or maybe stay up late to do a double podcast that has gotten extended because somebody spilled maybe a mollusk oil on their computer uh john mclaughlin was a guitar player i'll just put a little bit i'll tell you a story

[79:33]about him he recorded this whole album and it's like i don't know and he went in later to the offices and he heard this music playing he said to the secretary like who's who's the guy who's playing this day this is crazy i've never heard this before she goes yeah this was you and miles like last month like this is your new album that just came out right yeah because this was an out to this was essentially like an an extra outtake from the from the bitches brew track that it was like oh the producer was like let's put it on the album that was john mclaughlin the name of

[80:01]you guys know when you're when you're supposed to spin miles davis i would guess this album or in this when i'm trying to relax after my psychedelic dorm party or whatever we did last week anytime according to booze and vinyl you're supposed to spin it when you're trying to impress a dame you guys think this is good music to try to impress a lady a dame a dame yes i don't know i played it to impress it impress a new dame so maybe it's not not the old dame but a new one

[80:33]like if rob was stealing a new if he was stealing a new dame yeah or if i was in france you know what i'd call it what's that a note oh yeah yeah listen i didn't mean to burn it down okay it was my bad i already sorry about that so booze and vinyl suggests that you set out some classes i love smoking and fine art yeah smoked almonds marinated olives a hunk of hard chief's milk cheese

[81:00]dim the lights set the mood for some sensual lounging and they suggest wait a minute sensual lounging what's sensual lounging aaron what's sensual lounging i i guess like some some cuddling on the couch maybe was there any sensual lounging at the olive garden at that city honkin state yeah definitely not i like this i do i like this new narrative russ is telling where aaron went on a date to olive garden the guy is there in the booth with the girl aaron has to sit across and then has to say like so are we gonna split the guys like we're gonna split the

[81:32]bill 50 50 aaron's like well you guys ordered two meals i only got one oh you could eat and you guys actually ordered more expensive stuff i just got a salad so booze and vinyl suggests that you set out a bumblebee which is dark rum fresh lime juice but if you accidentally used all your lime juice on the previous drink that you screwed up you have to use lemon juice honey syrup and we know i don't know how to make honey syrup so you just put a little honey in there put a little water in there it counts oh my god oh my god and then as you guys know

[82:01]half an ounce of egg white we've got egg white oh my god that is a bumblebee and it's probably the worst drink i've had on a podcast it's the worst drink i've had on a podcast tonight oh it looks okay it looks like a sour it's not good well i yeah i don't know i think this podcast is now gonna called who has major stomach issues i just ate a bunch of oysters out of a tin and russell's drinking egg whites like

[82:32]rocky this guy russell's like a modern day rocky he's like rocky going to brunch i'm like the john mclaughlin of this podcast that makes sense to everybody miles runs the voodoo oh speaking speaking of john mclaughlin on that song so i started researching there's this uh bass player on this album dave holland you guys heard of him all right no i mistakenly identified him as a keyboard player earlier yes speaking of mistakes genius also doesn't know what the hell they're talking about with dave

[83:04]holland because i clicked on him in genius and it brought me to a list of his songs and it told me judas priest turns out after a little bit of research this guy does not also play drums for judas priest makes sense that's good because otherwise he'd have to get arrested for breaking the law breaking the law so for all the people who rely on genius for their music information don't do it that's so weird that the people upload the stuff about the drummer for miles you'd think

[83:34]that actually they would know what's going on that's very strange here we have you can hear here we have a xylophone in the background i was reading one of the things that makes miles davis a little bit is that a piano is that he has any go ahead russ he has he has numerous drummers so he has numerous drummers to be very precise is that right so like he's got like three drummers playing at once is that correct yeah i don't know if it was about being precise or just about he didn't he he had an idea

[84:04]for what the sound he wanted was and then if one guy couldn't get it he'd bring in the next guy but we want to know what the next guy is going to be like so we're going to look at the next guy but we want to know what the next guy is going to be like so we're going to look at the next guy but we want to know what the next guy is going to be like so we're going to look at the next guy but we we heard uh what's his name was doing that live the last james brown had multiple drummers but part of the reason he had multiple drummers was if he fired one he'd have another one yeah yeah miles only fired people for being addicted to drugs from what i know who was the last jazz guy we did coltrane coltrane had two drummers on his live on that live album yeah oh

[84:30]yeah absolutely uh soprano sax coming in for miles runs the booty down yeah it's way in again i enjoyed this second album so much more but i think it's because i don't i'm not smart maybe i think maybe that's it like i'm i'm a dumb guy it's just because it's it's it's a it's more aaron doesn't think so no i don't i don't think so that's why he's so sweet when i say am i dumb aaron says no and honestly that's the bar for being my friend yeah uh listen to this closing

[85:03]solo here by miles so this is the first album i've ever listened to and it's the first album i've ever listened to i could hear the influence on john cena steve's song i've been i've saved this for far too long but i listened to i don't listen to other podcasts as you guys uh as we've discussed but i did listen to a podcast about prince's coming to america

[85:32]album which was released posthumously and the drummer was john cena steve's song and i was like who ended up playing on the coming to america album told a story about when prince called called him or her up might have been a woman uh called them up and said uh do you want to play on my album um prince said do you like the drum rolls of jack dejanette and it's true like you hear it in this song like that like he'll just mix one in just like randomly like in the middle of a groove just like because it's pretty impressive so prince was obviously listening

[86:02]to bitches brew oh yeah i think everybody every musician has listened to this right like this is a this is a huge this is a huge album and say it's i would say it's a i would say some people would think this is maybe a top instead of 11 inches i'm 14 inches i don't fit on normal record players well that's when i whipped that out sanctuary

[86:35]this was the one that was composed by wayne shorter right and miles wanted credit for writing and he wouldn't give it to him so miles redid a lot of the song i'll just play the end of the album we made it we're at the end of the album i don't know my computer just says need more oyster juice so i think i've actually created

[87:05]a monster here wayne shorter also played with steely dan nora jones art blakely and ted nugent crazy long career right he also wrote an opera that was recently performed in berkeley california like the man just had a wild career wow we got guys we should should we be jazz musicians no i mean doesn't that sound like fun getting together and doing that stuff yeah i mean it sounds fun if we could learn how to play okay i agree with aaron let's start a jazz band okay

[87:33]a jazz pop band podcast oh my god a jazz podcast though we are the best jazz podcast one could argue one could unless maybe you listen to a bunch of podcasts to study for this and there's actually some really good ones i was really impressed listen that was bitches brew so now we get to everybody's favorite part it's patented it's copy protected it's the rating system i will tell you rob tonight right now this is my favorite part yes no no no we didn't know this man but we're

[88:04]doing a triple header devices are gonna run out of battery by the time we try that so for listen is this a rolling well toned okay uh if this is has just the perfect amount of oyster juice in the computer that means it's great it's rolling well toned everybody loves it it is perfect at 87 okay should this have been higher on the list now in my mind higher means earlier on the list okay which is also a

[88:34]lower number now you might be wondering why is it higher on the list because it's higher on the list you might be thinking what other things have lower numbers higher up and the answer is if you're diving down deep into a lake okay you would actually go higher up and those would be lower numbers talking about the depth so that's something to think about if you want yeah it is interesting and or is this a rolling groan you did not like this okay it was uh not very good it should be lower on the list and in this case lower on the list i mean it's a higher number so

[89:01]what things go higher as we go lower and again we're talking about diving so i'm picturing a poster with different things you could dive to in the depths lower number is a higher number is lower on the list hence the diving poster i think they're going to become big so if you want to invest now please email into beckdiditbetter at gmail.com we've got some great investment opportunities for you okay we could put you in a new hondai today okay and we're not none of us are regretting the decision of doing a double this is all fine

[89:30]okay this is a good idea maybe we should do this every week maybe every day okay we should be doing this more often okay and if we did this every day for like the next year matt would still be ahead of us on the list oh my god you're totally right that's that's not good not good but it's what we've chosen okay we're going to be doing this for the rest of our lives this is the business we've chosen aaron what do you think rolling well-toned rolling bone or rolling groan we're talking miles davis we're talking bitches brew it's the life we chose or rather the life that

[90:01]chose us i am on record as saying i don't understand why they pick and choose jazz albums for this list uh it doesn't make sense to me why this is the third jazz album on the list when there's been no thelonious monk there's been i'm not going to get into it uh i'm going to call it rolling well-toned i'm confused but i think it matters i think a lot of artists listen to it and it it influenced a lot of people and it made a difference in popular music that followed it so i'm gonna call it rolling well-toned listen aaron's saying the label because he's on the record uh i've got russell

[90:35]in minnesota and i'm doing the wrong part of the podcast russell rolling well-toned rolling bone or rolling groan what's your rolling going i enjoyed listening to to the album there is a lot of cool music stuff in here the the the the bass clarinet was cool i enjoyed the the musical talents of all the artists but like aaron said i don't really understand how this fits with everything else we're listening to it's just so different so i'm not really sure how to include

[91:04]jazz on the list but i i did see a cool quote that i wanted to share it was from the jazz times i don't know if that's a magazine or a website but it said the recording time zone the recording of bitches brew was a stream of creative creative musical energy i thought that was a great way to sum up this album because math you just you just got like a vibe listening to this it almost like was overtaking your body your body and your your soul when you're listening to it it's so much

[91:33]coming at you and it was constantly changing and and i have i have the utmost respect for it but for me it's just not what i want to listen to on a daily basis so i'm going to say a slight rolling groan uh and so i think i think we agree with russell this album is the perfect length matt what do you think rolling well-toned rolling bone or rolling groan i feel like maybe as part of this quest i'm finally starting to at least appreciate jazz you know having never played

[92:04]an instrument never really listened to it you know this is a little bit kind of all over the place for me but i think that's the whole point of it um and so i'm with russell and then i don't know if i'll go back to it and listen to it all that much but i think this historic significance of it sure uh is makes it good at 87 you know somewhere around there so i'm just going to say rolling well-toned listen if your wife if you ask your wife if your penis is big enough and she says

[92:34]it's fine it's fine that's okay right if she just says it's fine like that's a compliment some of us in the world have gotten a worse response to that question so i think you go with it maybe she means fine in like the thin sense like hair it's it's fine it's fine it's fragile it's not so bold listen guys unfortunately i hate to say it but you are on a you're on a roll and it's not a good kind okay you're on a bad roll kind of like a roll covered in oysters this is a

[93:04]rolling fusion fusion in true zone in true zone yeah guys once again he has changed the face of jazz and music and i mean there's no artist that we've talked about on this list who has been at the forefront of so many major changes in music with a possible exception of the beatles i think if you said which album which artists you've listened to have influenced most people it's miles davis and it's the beatles it's not even close then the john cena theme song that beats

[93:32]that's the list and herb albert herb albert that being said guys speaking of big herb speaking of big now were we speaking of changes speaking of ch-ch-ch-ch-changes it's david bowie hunky dory next week hey when you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time yeah this is the one right before spiders from mars how many artists have been three albums so far is it just the beatles

[94:02]bob dylan bob dylan jack beck did it better well it's a good thing my computer's a clamshell because it smells like oysters