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Marvin Gaye: Whats Going On (with all this jazz flute?)

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About this episodeIn this timely episode, we talk about Marvin Gaye's classic "What's Going On" and how his words ring as true now as they did in 1971. Before we get too deep into the percussion and sublime vocals, we take a detour to talk about two VERY important things.  1. Rob's top 10 commandments from dating in his younger years and his embarrassing reaction to getting dumped  2. How Sisqo ripped off the Beatles to make one of his many hit songs and why he has that grey hair (Hint: Look to the old testament!)  Russ gets a record player and we then explore the wild world of the Jazz Flute. Who is the bes

[00:00]in 2020 four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums as decided by rolling stone magazine this resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music excoriated the order and led us to making this podcast we are far from experts and we promise to do almost no research all opinions are our own unless you disagree please sit back and enjoy beck did it better this is album number six marvin gay and what's going on oh hey in fact you know what i just got invited to a party let me let me go into this party here hey not much what's happening with you guys hey what's happening can i put my coat down or can i put my hey well you know anybody got no i already got what's happening but you bring the egg yeah i was is i'm supposed to be suzanne here or no i got this cheese dip worship with the cheese just having a good in the kitchen okay we're having a good time what's up man is russell's bumblebee not here oh look over by the eggs it's matt aaron and russell and they're all eating you rob your phone's ringing oh that's oh

[01:02]this is my ringtone all right so this joke is supposed to go on for another 10 minutes but i think we get started when you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time but you're just too lazy to look it up online if you want to hear four guys who chat and then they get off track i've got the perfect podcast for you jack beck did it better hello everybody in podcast land oh i do not like that i do not like that one bit that is very bad this is beck did it better and today we are talking a tragic story of marvin gay uh and there are six album on the list uh what's going on for a modern day tragedy let me introduce you to my co-hosts say hi so our listeners can tell all of our very distinct voices apart we got matt in minneapolis matt how are you good good thanks rob doing well we have aaron who's residing out in tahoe right now aaron how

[02:02]are you yes hello from tahoe i'm here with the birds and the bees well don't get too excited about it aaron uh and we have russ in minnesota russ how are you rob love can conquer hate every time give out some love and you'll find peace sublime oh my god russ you're such a genius beautiful nice job when when do we get to sublime on this list they're next they're right after marvin gay uh before we get any farther guys i got news for you the beck line is actually kind of taking off so real quick hi my name is krista and i am a first-time listener long-time caller and i just want to share that i feel like you really missed the boat when talking about eleanor rigby in your book the eleanor rigby was the inspiration to listen to this podcast for the classic

[03:02]song bong bong by cisco he um borrowed the beat from the song but he also was inspired by the violinist and the cellist but completely rewrote the string section so that he wouldn't have to deal with copyright issues since michael jackson owned the rights to the beatles music at that time and that was his inspiration for writing that song that i danced to so many times at the long ago bar known as bar abilene in uptown minneapolis r.i.p bar abilene but yeah i don't really know that you guys can call yourselves musical experts for not knowing that thank you listen us dancing at bar abilene to thonks like you don't have to talk to russell and i about doing this that was what just we called a thursday that wasn't even our weekend that was just a normal time so i went to bar abilene to watch the timberwolves play against the grizzlies when they had pau gasol i

[04:03]feel like i was missing the boat oh my god i'm at bar abilene i almost fell asleep from that story and there went all and there went all of our listeners the old pau gasol story i have to say though immediately hearing this voicemail from a woman saying that i did something wrong already it's just it's typical it's frustrating i thought my eleanor rigby take about me being the lonely person who had to pick up the rice was probably my greatest music take ever and then it turns out the one woman who listens to our podcast decided she needed to call it and say actually we got that completely wrong listen if you're a woman who listens to the podcast and you want to tell us what we've done in our wrong in our life 802-277-BECK so let's listen real quick okay so krista in minnesota tells us that cisco let me see that and of course specifically he got inspired by eleanor rigby all right so that cisco thong song okay a very kind of a modern day a classic you know eleanor

[05:12]rigby in many ways um talking about the deeper issues i think like this album today it's talking about a lot of issues at the time uh and then if if you if you you can't really hear it though but you can hear the beat because he actually those aren't samples those are real string players he had in for thong song playing on actual instruments but he kept that same beat and you can really hear it when you mix somebody online mixed eleanor rigby and cisco together thong song check this out i'm gonna explain it again this is cisco i don't think it's that close i i think we're okay it's it's the beat right but he didn't want

[06:06]to pay michael jackson who owned all the beatles recordings so instead what he did is he took that same beat and kind of the same idea and he remixed it yeah he's interpolating but i i don't i don't really hear it that close i mean it's it's there but it's not like so obvious that we should have picked it up obviously our caller is a cisco scholar and when she makes a cisco podcast i will happily call into the cisco to the thong line but i don't think we made such a big let me let me just say this i think i think i know krista from minneapolis minnesota or minneapolis i forget where she's from i i let's i i have her i have her number i could just put it out it comes into the google now we're doxing callers to the back line let me just say that out of everybody i know krista was the expert of the dance floor at bar abilene in the early 2000s and so except for russ and i except for you and russ but

[07:02]i think she had cj the the bouncer at the uh at the door he had a he had like a belt buckle that would light up i think it said his name it like scrolled across like cj was classic i think she i think she had cj on her uh speed dial um so yes if anybody knows about cisco about uh you know anybody else some nelly some um miley cyrus i think krista knows and so we need to uh pay attention to what she's saying and take it her word for it all all all equally good to the beatles i'm saying when she makes the thong podcast i'm calling him this by the way a cisco podcast would be the world's shortest podcast it would be about a half an episode and they do exactly what we're doing now and then they'd be like well i guess that's it i like that drew hill song in my bed that was my favorite cisco song wait wait i cannot hit the sound clip this early in the podcast it was a great great song about finding

[08:01]somebody else sleeping in your bed in my bed by drew okay so you said you weren't gonna call to the cisco podcast and now here i have to do it hey this is rosie i'm calling the cisco podcast so i wanted to talk about actually the other song that we all know from cisco which is definitely called in my bed or something like that uh you know cisco lives in minnesota now no does he hang out with master p he married a girl from maple grove he lives up in maple grove yep i did not know that so cisco is in the suburbs cisco is in the suburbs he's one of us does this mean that i am not the most famous man in minnesota with gray hair that cisco is more famous than me in minnesota so so that cisco's gray hair i was reading i read more articles today about cisco than most people have i bet how many articles are there on cisco there can't be like this plethora this library if you type in eleanor rigby and cisco there's more articles than you would guess and and he said that at the time he had never even seen a thong on a woman before he wrote the song he just knew they were out there

[09:03]they're like this mystical thing because he's like in 90 you know 90 whatever they weren't that popular but he said that somebody said oh yeah i was on a date and some girl handed me your thong the thong thong thong and he's like oh i gotta make that into a song and he said that when he made the song he it's like when um moses went up to the rock and he went up to get the tablets and he had black hair and he was like oh i gotta make that into a song and he said that when he made the song he had black hair and then when he came down he had seen god so he had gray hair that's why he dyed his hair gray because his thong song was the equivalent of the ten commandments thou shall not get underwear that covers your whole butt yeah i think he was a gospel musician as a kid so that makes sense i think he's steeped in the tradition i i cannot play the sound clip this early i cannot play that rosie's left field but you know what you did just say that cisco was a gospel musician i think so oh that was eric's left field taker what the hell is he talking about we've been recording about two minutes keep that one at the top you're gonna have to use it again i'm sure i'm sure i got another one sure

[10:02]i got another one i have to admit hearing his story about his gray hair sounds like a much better bumble opener than me just saying i just look old and my hair's genetic i'm gonna go change that now my hair my hair is genetic i like that i did not do they think maybe you dyed it that way that you dyed it gray like cisco you just tell him yeah you went to cisco's hairstylist ciscut ciscut you better trademark that now just everybody it's just an ad of me cutting hair and everyone coming out has gray short hair hey come on down to ciscut wait i can do this better hey come on down to ciscut only now back to school special 20 off back to school special 20 off if any kid under the age of 17 it's just like a thong it's 80 off by the way thongs i do have to say thongs are like have such a place in my life i need to hear more

[11:04]about this right of like they they basically changed my life when when i started dating a girl and she had a thong i was just like this is the greatest day of my life that the one girl i'm dating in high school wears a thong i was like this and she will just show it to me i was like i was like that was my 10 commandments you know what i mean it was like thou shall look at ass and i was that was one what was number two thou will cover your girlfriend's mom thou shall not or thou shall all right what's number three can we come up with 10 oh yeah i can come up with 10 commandments of being high school all right let's go right to thou shall not covet your mom or thou shall shall ask your first girlfriend to stick out her tongue and you would suck on it for some reason you thought that was a cool thing to do i'm surprised that wasn't a top two but looking back it's kind of like this male like in charge thing that it makes you feel kind of ill now uh those four okay okay thou shall not clean your car even though a girl's gonna get in the car

[12:07]and it's like the number one thing you can do to show that you're a normal person okay thou shall get upset when this girl dumps you and say that you're gonna regret this to her which is now something actually ironically you regret for the rest of your life that was a big bummer haha i got dumped was the most pathetic thing if i if i could go back in time and tell myself like just i'd be like don't you're gonna get dumped just say okay well it's been really nice and i appreciate all the time you know whatever use in 20 years you're gonna talk about this on a podcast and you're gonna feel real stupid yeah no instead of you're gonna regret this and and this is what i said night this is really embarrassing for me to say this but i'm a new i'm a 2020 male i can say this i said i'm gonna drive my car home really fast i mean you can imagine that's like something my 11 year old would say to me when i was a kid i'm like i'm gonna drive my car home really fast right now and i'm like okay you gotta go to bed i'm gonna go to bed so much i might die and then are you happy that if i die oh my god it's so pathetic meanwhile aaron's like

[13:03]just like making out with two girls i i picture him in a car another girl's driving of course he's in the front seat in the middle he's got two girls he's like is this podcast stereo can you hear this if i go hold on hold on i gotta change my prescription glasses to my purple john lennon sunglasses oh the tint is too dark on these none of those things ever happen i mean the purple sunglasses happen but the question is am i gonna keep this in where i talk about how pathetic i am but i think i have to well you got number six so okay what's number seven rob stay tuned for next week when we reveal the other four commandments of robin high school yeah yeah i think i think it's a cliffhanger oh thou shall wear a sweater vest because your girlfriend bought you one and you everybody laughs at you that's just smart thinking if your lady buys you a shirt you wear the shirt man okay we got we got three more we're getting we're almost there we got three more okay uh thou

[14:04]shall do a weird thing where she gets naked and you only take your shirt off for the whole relationship do we do we need to put rob in the corner for advice or what rob might need some advice okay we got number okay we got two more minnesota has affected me deeply laughing and looking back of course that's the old you know shirt in the pool but like the opposite somehow you know what i mean like you're hiding your best this is like this is my therapy uh and it's actually been more expensive than therapy after buying all this equipment uh got two more two more uh thou shall take a a woman on a date on a first date and order just the appetizer sampler as the meal well i mean that's that's a way to weed out the ones that that are not worthy right like if they're not down with the mozzarella sticks the onion rings oh no that was jenny that was my junior year of college so that one worked when i did that i could legally drink

[15:06]so that just kind of shows like wait but it worked for you so you're saying the whole time when i've i've been wanting to take every girl i've gone out with to perkins for an appetizer sampler and every time i've thought well i better not do that i better not do that i better not do that better not do that you're telling me what it works uh so you're some kind of simp that just orders one appetizer idiot no i think i think what you really want on a date is for most of the time you feel like you need to go to the bathroom so bad that your stomach is going to explode that's the number one key to being on a great date eat a bunch of yeah cheese curds and stuff real early and the 10th commandment of me coming down picture me i've got cisco hair i'm coming down oh i'm coming down i guess the 10th commandment is uh thou shall always act like you're looking around at other women at all times i think women really like that actually i was uh i was in an airport once with jenny and i was the girls were like i don't know what this was after i was married with

[16:02]two kids and the kids were like five and three and this girl started this woman started talking to me at the airport she was pretty attractive um and she said what are you doing i said oh i'm flying with my sister and her two kids and helping out and jenny was right there uh and she didn't look happy but i think it really showed her what kind of alpha male i was and that women like that is everybody is everybody still recording yeah that's still recording oh that's too bad we're at 19 minutes so listen if you want to call in and make rob think about all the mistakes he's made when he was in junior high call in at 802-277-BECK my daughter was just talking to me today about middle school because she's got some hair issues going on and she goes this is the first day of middle school i'm never going to make it and i said sweetie you are tall you're blonde and you're gorgeous going to middle school i said i made it through middle school being me you'll be fine don't worry about it you're gonna be just fine she goes and then she was like oh yeah and i was like well wait a minute wait a minute is that supposed to be this easy rob do we do we owe

[17:03]any sort of apology or anything for not touching on the thong song when obviously it's such a big part of the beatles lore and eleanor rigby and everyone thinks about the thong song is that worthy of a beck did a better apology or not all right this is going out to krista and minis minneapolis or minnesota and now an apology from beck did it better i'd like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody beck does it better podcast no apology but i am gonna cry later about it i am gonna drive home fast from this podcast and now i can't edit that part out all right rob you're you're a new yorker now so what if what if you were to have a breakup in the future and you weren't able to drive fast anywhere what would be your new your new get back i'm gonna do this i'm gonna do the same gag i do with my girls which is where i pretend to jump in front

[18:03]of a subway where i turn to them and i say i love you and then i look like i'm gonna walk in front of the subway when it's coming and they know i'm not going to but they get scared every time it's pretty horrible oh okay so that's not the reaction i was expecting i thought you guys would think it's as funny as this but i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that i'm not going to as funny as i do but you sound like my kids uh and their therapist so uh here's the deal rolling going everybody's how's it how's it going rolling going matt how are you doing i'm doing well we're trying to just hold on a little bit of summer here getting ready to go back to school with the kids so i'm doing well summer's over it sucks uh aaron rolling going how are you doing um well look guys i'm not in a position to say much about the world as i sit here near lake tahoe on my vacation but i can't let this opportunity go by um without talking about how i feel about this album uh i'm going fine hanging out with my wife and my son that's good but um i'm not feeling good about talking about this album uh because

[19:04]the things that marvin gaye was talking about in 1971 are still happening this week uh millions of wildfire uh police murdering people um so i'm sitting here in my brand new uh anniversary gift which is my fuck white supremacy t-shirt and i'm ready to uh give this a shot but i can't say it's going good yeah well i mean that's the thing right aaron is it's like that was me listening to this album too the whole time i was just like god it just is it just goes over and over and it doesn't change i mean the same stuff he's talking about the the the police brutality stuff and the environmental stuff i was like and then i after right after listening to this album i watched some of the republican national convention which was like whiplash i mean you want to do two opposite things it's just it's just wild how much we see this over and over and over yeah i'm excited to talk about the music but i just i had to say what i was thinking about uh as i was listening to this album this week so that's that's where i'm at yeah there's no doubt that us choosing to do a comedy podcast talking about this album is definitely a good idea and not another one of my major mistakes that i've made in my life

[20:03]russ rolling going how you doing i've actually i'm going great and i have a really exciting announcement for for the podcast and for our listeners all right yes a few weeks ago we talked about how i stole records from my mom's house and you guys gave me advice on whether i should buy a record player what type of record player i should buy and so i went out the other night and i bought my first record player i'm so excited and i bought this just at a basic like a target i didn't go to any fancy store i just bought the basic thing you're all about this and when i walked out i decided i'd walk by kind of the music section you just see if they had records or something and i'm like okay i'm going to buy a record and i'm like okay i'm going to buy a record and i'm like okay i'm going to buy a record and i'm going to buy a record and i'm going to buy a record and i'm going to buy a record and i'm going to buy a record and i'm going to buy a record and i'm going to buy a record and i'm going to buy a record and i'm going to buy a record and i'm going to buy a record is what's going on by marvin gaye this is which was on clearance for 8.48 so the first record i ever listened to on my new record player wow other than the star wars theme song was what's going on by

[21:05]marvin i thought you guys would think that was pretty cool i'm so stoked that's awesome for both the listeners out there russ is holding up the album into the zoom camera we're getting a look at that gorgeous cover of marvin gaye and his leather french coat or whatever i love it russell i'm so excited but so when it looks it looks so cool one thing you said aaron is like sometimes you know things don't change it's the same thing same situation we were in 40 years ago or whatever but sometimes the good things don't change either right like i'm i'm also starting my record collection for the first time in 2020 that's right i like that i like the positive russell if bumble goes well enough pretty soon you'll have a kid that will steal records from you and then make fun of them with their friends on a podcast so i think that's that's the best you can i'm just wondering if my kids one day are going to be giving me compliments me like hey you're old man he's got the same color hair as cisco that's pretty cool head of his time it hasn't really gone that direction in my in my past history so

[22:04]i'm interested to see how that works hey check this out i stole a record from my dad it's cisco it's got everybody's favorite song i'm stuck in bed you that one that everyone's talking about oh it's a good song oh you mean the one from the hit podcast uh all right rob how are you doing oh i you know i wasn't gonna wait for you good catch i'll tell you what i'm doing well but it is summer and being a big guy uh it's always tough and you know i'm going back to teaching uh but i was thinking about this the other day when i was getting a massage and i went to a place by the way that this is this is i went to a new place the beginning or the end of your massage okay guys these are legit massages okay jenny was in the next it's not even a room there's like a curtain between us she's next to me so i don't know what that proves but something that's got to prove something

[23:00]she can't see what's going on i apologize no but this massage place well this i wasn't even going to talk about this but now you got me thinking about this massage place offers a four-handed massage what for like 60 bucks for an hour what does what what does that mean what does that mean well i assume it's when two people massage you but now that you've got me now i don't know what that means actually but i think i was thinking like oh maybe i do want a four-handed massage but then i was like i don't think i could ever go back to a regular massage after having two people massage me at the same time i would be you could never go back it's like flying first class you can never ever go back to not flying first class after that but that's not what i was going to talk about what i was going to talk about for my rolling going is i'm thinking about becoming a cologne guy should guys wear cologne what it just seems like a lot of effort man yeah it's a risky venture isn't it i mean because there's such a fine line between wearing just the right amount of cologne and then just wearing too much and if you get branded as the guy that's wearing too much that just sticks with you forever i think i've proven though already with my stories that i

[24:03]often make great decisions and i normally do the right thing so yeah i would go for it but i was reading that i was i was i was reading a story about somebody who ran into steve martin literally ran into him and they said that steve martin ran into him and that steve martin smelled really good and i was thinking to myself if somebody ran into me and said oh my god that's rob from beck did it better i don't think they would say like oh he smells so good and i'm a big guy and i don't smell bad right i'm not like bad smelling that's like the classic stereotypical big guy thing but i think i could smell good like if i used cologne right right i think if someone one of our listeners ran into you they probably wouldn't talk about your scent they would probably talk about why you screwed up the whole eleanor rigby thing on the podcast that would be the first thing they would probably talk about but but you're trying to you're trying to brand yourself as the good smelling guy it sounds like couldn't you brand yourself as as the guy who wears the bow tie or the guy who wears the suspenders or something else it feels like you're trying to brand yourself as the i already have a number of suspenders that's the problem that i wear to school

[25:06]i'm already you're already that guy so you want to be you want to combine multiple things well let's see that's the other problem right is that being a teacher i don't think i can wear cologne and be a teacher that's weird but i think like on the weekends i could wear cologne rob if you were to be a cologne guy how would you apply it would you kind of like spray it through a few times or would you put it on the how would you how would you apply it you don't even know how to do you put it on your wrist i don't even know if there's something that like what if there's a list out there the 500 greatest colognes my dad should have sat me down and been like son this is how you put on cologne and then like i don't like do you put on your wrist i thought that was like a perfume oh man in seventh grade when i wore cologne you know you spray it out there and you walk into it matt we need to hear more about your cologne experience i was never a cologne guy back in the day i probably got cologne once in my life and it was never really my thing matt matt what was your alone style i mean i never i never bought

[26:01]a bottle of cologne you've always got a couple buddies who think they're pretty slick and decide they're going to be cologne guys right and then you're going to the junior high dance or whatever uh you know and so they think hey i got some cologne let's you do you know put some on and like well how the hell do you put cologne it's the exact same question we're asking right now we're 40 years old but no man you just spray it out there and walk into it that's the best way to do it i think you don't want to overdo it you can't overdo it you don't want to be that guy i think that's my number one problem with cologne is that it goes too fast no i'm just kidding if you've ever had a bottle of cologne it lasts about 30 years for some reason the bottles are so big it just kind of like chapstick does anybody ever get to the end of the chapstick no anybody ever get to the bottle you lose it first you know the only time i've seen cologne used often is i have a friend who smokes occasionally and will be at like a corporate event or like an industry event and he'll go out and smoke a few cigarettes and he doesn't want to come back into the room smelling like smoke and so he'll go get his cologne and he'll spray it and do the walkthrough a few times

[27:02]so he doesn't smell like smoke have you guys ever done the thing and this is truth time you have to tell the truth or something's bad it's going to happen to you tree of trust have you ever taken cologne from a magazine and just rubbed it on you oh there's cologne in magazines okay neither have i oh my heart hey sorry we just exposed rob's commandment number one now rob has to edit the commandments together for sure because you just made a call back to it you what kind of magazines are you guys reading where they don't have cologne that you can rub on you i told you i only read rolling stone i'm reading it rolling stone magazine home of the 500 best albums you smell like russell's friend you smell like cigarette and cologne you're like it's the keith richards odor all right so experience uh what's our experience with marvin gay i'll start real quick for me it was just i basically knew you know all the oldies like the old motown marvin

[28:02]gay and then i also knew uh sexual healing and i will say i sang let's get it on at a karaoke contest at roosters in northfield a bar in a college bar in minnesota and i won a hamburger i won a free hamburger in the contest uh yeah it's actually the greatest day of my life uh actually it's between the birth of one of my children and the birth of my other child so it's right in the middle there but it is it's a top three uh and and around their wedding okay um so yeah so that's i i mean basically that's what i know about marvin gay i had heard this song but never this whole album and again it's one of these it's like the beach boys right where i got the album and i'm like okay i can't wait for let's get it on and then it's like it's nowhere to be found i was like oh sexual healing it is not on this album russ now that you're a record guy what's what's your experience with this album kind of like you rob there are certain hits from marvin gay that i knew i know this song i know the the song that the california raisins covered i believe

[29:04]you did it oh hey oh sure i mean i love you guys heard it through the grapevine so i know that i know i know that the hits of the marvin gay songs but i don't know i don't know his whole history i did i did one thing i've been trying to do through this whole quest is kind of watch i watch a documentary or something or trying to learn something new about this musician so i did a pbs documentary on marvin gay called what's going on fancy title it i'll give him credit for that one but one of the cool things is real original like obviously motown is such a huge part of music and we're going to be touching on a lot of motown albums as we go through this quest but i don't really have a huge history with motown and so it's really interesting to me to hear how

[30:02]motown was kind of like a car assembly line where the the writer gives a song to the producer the they give it to the engineer and it's kind of this assembly line where the songs could be given to anyone so i really i really got a kick out of learning more about motown and then hearing how marvin gay kind of came up through motown and then at one point the hit songs on this record were not appreciated by barry gordy the the founder of motown so that was really interesting to me but overall i didn't really have any history going into it but it will always be the first record i've ever owned that's so great i'm so excited about that matt what's your experience with uh very little i have very little experience i mean i think i know the the five marvin gay songs that have been the top of the charts and stuff like that but other than that uh you know other than listening to the radio host dan borrero on kfan here locally he opens up with uh the opening of the album every show he's got so that's about the extent

[31:04]of the experience i've got with the album so very very little aaron how about you well once again i'm a big fan of the album and i've been listening to it for a long time and i've been listening to it for a long time and i've been listening to it for a long time and i've been listening to it for a long time and i've been listening to it for a long time and i've been listening to it for a long time and i've been listening to it for a long time and i've been i have more to say on this topic than anyone cares to hear about but um i would say nothing nothing affected my uh listening to music to pop music as a kid more than motown so my my dad played motown a lot uh around the house uh so i had one uh motown greatest hit cd that had um you know ain't amount high enough uh heard through the grapevine um let's get it on absolutely blew my mind as like an 11 or 12 year old like especially when um like i would get embarrassed when color on in the car with my mom and then i heard let's get it on i was like whoa the people were doing this like 30 years ago like this was amazing um so definitely like motown was always in my mind always playing at my house like maybe it wasn't actually but memory is a funny thing um i would say then the the marvin gaye album that i really got into as a younger adult uh was here my dear

[32:03]um i think because i read an article about it in you know rolling stone or something um this was essentially his breakup album with anna gordy barry's sister um that's like some super space funk kind of stuff um that he basically made like well i gotta make one more album and give you half the the royalties so here you go so i got super into here my dear um what's going on i came to later in my life i don't think i was really ready for it uh like emotionally for the themes um but it's definitely now an album that i come back to a lot and play around the house a lot because i love it and um it's just like just one universal groove that i can always get into uh and obviously i mentioned the things he was saying i think are always relevant so that's um that's how i feel about marvin i i would say my one marvin record that i own um is a record of his duets with tammy terrell um that has um something stupid on and a couple other great things so just great music and tammy terrell is a huge part of marvin gaye russell aaron one thing

[33:00]you mentioned is that album he made about his ex-wife at the time what was her what was that album again uh hear my dear about anna gordy so one of the coolest things about anna gordy is that i found out when i was watching this documentary about him is he essentially wrote this album because he owed her alimony right and he was he was going to try to make it the worst album ever so she would get no money out of it because he was behind on all these alimony payments so they the judge essentially said right make another album you got to give her half the money and so he goes out and he tries to make the worst album ever so she gets nothing and it turns out it turns into this amazing album anyways that's i just thought and it's really good an amazing album amazing story i mean it was nothing that could be played on the radio because all the songs were like six seven eight minutes long like these extended jams but yeah it's a great album i love it that's why i can never get divorced i don't want my wife to get half of this podcast it would be terrible if every other episode it's like us talking and then she's over top like oh

[34:01]that dummy what's he doing he should be washing the dishes uh so aaron is it true that when you declare me bad she goes you know actually you have to uh lick it before you stick it what i what i was thinking of was um i want to sex you up because that was like that was number one on the q102 top five at nine for a long time and i'd be driving home from choir practice and that would come on but it was not like a free stick oh okay that's my bad sorry i thought i heard that i must have been mistaken uh so real quick talk about this i think the best way to talk about this album putting in context is just talk about marvin gaye in general uh marvin gaye was born in washington dc we're starting away with when he was one he uh and then basically he came up and moved to detroit and he had his first hit was how sweet it is to be loved by you in 64

[35:02]i want to stop and thank you baby i want to stop and thank you and then he started cranking out these hits with tammy terrell we talked about like ain't no mountain in 67 and all of a sudden so think about this he releases ain't no mountain in august of 67 it's their biggest hit right and in october so two months later um terrell faints in the studio while they're singing it turns out she's she's suffering from a brain tumor in 60 then the next year he comes out with that um the the herded through the grapevine and in 70 terrell dies and at this point marvin is totally destroyed by her her passing away um and stops doing anything stops making music decides for a little bit he wants to become a professional football player and goes and tries out uh he's thinking about trying out for the detroit lions

[36:00]and eventually decides not to he probably made the right decision there right like he i'd probably rather just make make no professional life for myself as opposed to being a detroit lion right i thought you were talking about like his his physical health you know you're like no the detroit lights yeah wait wait wait you're recording all these number one hits and you're going to play for not the steelers not the cowboys the detroit lions i think this is the first person on the list where it is a possibility they could have played professional football right like you don't see ringo in like a football helmet he's like oh hey hey paul pitch me the ball heck one hike two huh i mean uh and that was an excuse to bring up my awesome beatles impression mike love i mean mike loves the uncle of an nba player like maybe he could have made some professional sports but you can edit that out that's a great point let's i'm gonna photoshop mike love we're gonna photoshop all these people into how awesome how awesome would it have been

[37:03]if bob dylan was a quarterback and he got to do all the calls like out on the field like he's like mom is in the basement looking up to medicine x y left right delay a game delay a game that was a seven minute song bob bob that could work who keeps blowing that fucking harmonica all right the refs instead of the whistles they have that bob dylan should buy the xfl i saw the rock just bought the xfl if bob dylan bought the xfl just just heard all of the things about the xfl like they get rid of the funky kickoff rules and instead it's just bob dylan making funny sounds while the players react to it that would be amazing i'd watch the hell out of that i honestly would watch that more than i've watched the other xfl for sure um bob's fl damn it i gotta edit that out that was not a good joke it didn't even make a sense in my head and i still said it so basically

[38:00]uh then the the guy from the a guy from the four tops saw um some somebody uh at a anti-war protest in berkeley getting beat up and writes a song what's going on and they tried to give the song to joan bias they tried to give the song to the four tops they tried to give it to a couple other people and finally marvin marvin gay records it sends it to barry gordy at motown and barry gordy says absolutely not i'm not going to release this it's too political this is not what motown is i this is going to destroy your career there's no way they did release it it goes on to be number one for five weeks it's the fasting selling fastest selling single in motown history um and after this barry gordy came back to marvin and said i want a full album and marvin was like and and it's really interesting when you hear this album because all the songs relate so much to um what's going on and in fact the last song loops back around this whole this whole album if you listen to it it's real hard to see when songs start because they just it's just this continuous cycle and at the end it actually has the same music as what's going on so it comes

[39:04]back in but all of that was not written at the same time it's all based off this first song and he says i'm going to bet you some amount of money that you cannot finish an album in 30 days and marvin said i can do that and so sure enough he came out with this album made it produced it mixed it got it done in a month after this which is absolutely unbelievable and in fact it was such a rush that when they were printing out the album art he took all the masters and flew to los angeles and actually made totally remixed the album in the last couple days because this is one of the first times where the artist was now a producer at motown like you said normally this was where it was just an assembly line getting picked up and now this is like on the simpsons where homer designs his own car right and it just normally would turn into the homer car just a terrible terrible idea and this is just again we see in this list it's a true genius having total control and he comes up with his magnum opus in 30 minutes i mean it's and nobody else thinks it's any good

[40:00]it's it's just it's insane to me um and a big part of that was that this grabs me too because when i when i hear it i think it sounds like a west coast record and i realized that he recorded most of it in detroit but you know i don't think he made huge changes to the sound but to me it sounds like a west coast record it sounds like he's adding in sounds he did make changes for motown because you know most of motown was using these funk brothers as their backup band which is by far the best name of a backup band it beats out wrecking crew by a little bit but to be if i could tell you right now that oh yeah i used to be a funk brother oh my god that's so awesome right we'd get married right now we'd be married will you marry me i'm a funk brother yes i will will you marry me funk brother um unlike fat boy slim fat boy slim it's not like fat boy slim where he was like i want to marry a funk soul brother and basically marvin gaye instead of using all of the funk brothers he decided to go grab some jazz musicians um that were playing in detroit and that's why what's really interesting in this is the percussion on this album there's no kit there's

[41:01]no drum kit on this album it's all congas it's all that it's all latin percussion it's all like triangles and like that scratchy fish thing that russ used to play when he was in the elementary school music that would be the weero and it didn't stop in elementary school i still play it on my second date hey hey you want to hear my version of what's going on on the weero man major oh major props for knowing that dude that's that i would think a weero is more of a third date hey what are you doing what are you doing in the back seat i have a whole collection of weeros and the best part is they're all different types of fish like i have a walleye euro a salmon euro a crappie euro a bluegill euro is a weero weero not a euro that's like the things yeah those are the sandwiches a weero the currency of a whole continent if you don't have a picture of you playing the the weero on your bumble profile wrestle you're making a huge huge huge mistake few edits definitely make a mistake just put you playing the weero and underneath put

[42:01]funk brother number one oh my god brilliant stuff going into the album let's let's go through it um the the album is based around the idea of a vietnam war veteran coming home and that's why this first part is um the talking at the party this best opening song yet i think i've said that every podcast but this one i mean you think so yeah this one yeah when that bass hits you guys rank this ahead of like a rolling stone you rank it ahead of the beatles opener you rank it ahead of that sounds yeah i do i i wasn't singing like a rolling stone over and over and over today and listen to this and i want to say rob you you said you listened to this album listening for let's get it on because you were like you know that's what i know about martin gay uh if you listen to his 1974 live album which was recorded uh at oakland coliseum uh his last 1974 live album uh he plays what he plays let's get it on into what's going on and they work together

[43:05]and if you read interviews with him when he talked about let's get it on i mean maybe he was full of shit but he talked about let's get it on as being more than just about sex it was spiritual it was let's all get it on let's live in harmony and so the the music is more related than we might have thought that's a third date thing do you believe that though because when i was watching the all right i'm gonna have to take a note for that too do you believe that though aaron because when i'm watching the documentary like a lot of his performances near the end of the career like he's literally singing these songs while he's taking his clothes off on stage i don't yeah i mean but this was 74 so i think he believed it for a time and then yeah it worked for him to you know but i mean he was a complicated man he contained multitudes i mean first of all taking off the clothes singing marvin gaye is how i won that hamburger and ate that hamburger but also say like in 74 you can't come out and say like oh yeah that song is about fucking like

[44:01]you just can't be like oh yeah let's get it on and also i'm going i'm circling back again to a joke i would sing um what's going on first and then let's get it on because that's the question right hey what's going on let's get it on you can't say like oh let's get it on and then be like hey what's going on you know what's going on yeah that has definitely been a problem with the way i've approached women over the last few years this is russ trying to sneak out of some girl's apartment and she goes hey what's going on after he said let's get one thing matt mentioned about the song is that there's a local radio show in minneapolis that the song is kind of their opening bumper and i have to admit i love this song but the fact that it's been used on a radio show over and over for so many years has kind of ruined it for me and i'm kind of curious when i listen to it i want to think oh this is one of the greatest songs ever but that's not the way i hear it i just hear it as this song that this radio station has poached and and the more i thought about it it kind of makes made me think it's kind of self-indulgent and and arrogant for a radio show to take one of the five

[45:03]or six greatest songs ever and put it as their opener for for the lead-in for their radio show that would be like a couple years from now kristin from minneapolis using the beck did it better soundtrack for her radio show like it's kind of arrogant to use the greatest one of the greatest songs ever isn't it when you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time i don't see what's wrong with it all right uh if maybe russell how about this then i have the before he remixed it on the west coast to go in aaron style i had the detroit mix does this help i'm still here in local minneapolis radio show oh no but you can hear there's a little rhythm guitar more in this one yeah his yeah the guitar is higher his final version is so much better than that detroit you can go search that detroit mix version on youtube it's so warm and round and starting with the talking

[46:00]coming in and that one actually has the talking at the end and it's a whole it's a whole different vibe when you don't when you it just it sets it totally differently i do want to talk real quick about the bass on that song because a lot of people think that the bass really makes that song and basically the story is and of course who knows all these old stories you don't know what they're true but he went and found the bass player at a club and the bass player was just drunk as hell so he brings this guy james jameson one of the funk brothers um brings him back to the studio and says here's the bass line i want you to play and the guy is so drunk he has to play the bass line and he's like oh my god i'm so drunk i'm so i guess i'll lay down on his back but because of his state that's why this bass sounds the way it is now the story sounds totally made up to me but it's kind of a fun story the other part of this is that they claim that marvin gaye heard this double they they recorded his lyrics twice on two different tracks and that they tried to play one to see what he liked more and they played both at the same time and marvin was like that's what i like and that's why for the songs from here on out you hear marvin be double tracked singing it so you can hear both of those things here

[47:02]see russell this is what you'd be saying if you were a funk brother this so good i've been swiping furiously for the last 20 minutes since i've updated my profile to claim that i'm an original funk brother just man any isolated marvin vocal is just i mean you can't beat that it's just there's nothing better good all right uh next song also i forgot to mention that marvin gaye has my favorite version of the national anthem from the 1983 nba all-star game peep it out when you get a chance it's good i listened to that too it's a good one um and definitely wasn't a list idea that we were tossing around so this is one of the few albums of all time that starts

[48:02]out with a double question double double double question rob i'm gonna stop you i gotta stop you here what's up i've i've read that what's going on is not a question it's a statement and so i think you need to rewind that well like we we look at it as being like a a friendly greeting if you will it's not it's actually a statement hey ross you know what i'm really really now an apology from beck did it better i'd like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody beck does it better you know i actually just i actually just carry around this sound clip with me at all times if any chance i have to apologize i play that people are like what's beck did it better and then i have to explain i have a podcast and then they just feel bad for you should hire a little irishman to come walk around and do it in person for you rob that would be much i that that is a great idea nothing could possibly go wrong with that what's happening brother this bass line on this and you can hear how it flows on the album

[49:02]it's so good this sounds like a much better version of the love boat theme song right here right here that would oh it cut out that would that would be so insulting except you said a much i said a much better version i didn't say beck did it better i said it's a much better version of the love boat song well you have to imagine like you know whoever wrote the love boat theme song probably listened to a lot of what's going on yeah you did mention rob though you kind of mentioned it a little bit but i think it's a much better version of the love boat theme song as a question and i noticed the first two songs in this album like you said rob are kind of these friendly greeting phrases right oh yeah i i didn't know and so we got what's going on what's happening brother it made me start thinking how do i address you guys when i see you as my friends and i started thinking what are the greatest friendly greeting songs ever what are the greatest songs ever that are titled after a friendly greeting that you would enter you would say to your friend when you saw them so we came up with a list rob

[50:02]oh man there's no there's no song here called can i rub your back can i give you a four-handed massage that's the thing you can't ask that it's impossible but there are things you can ask so maybe we want to maybe we want to tee this up robert dr rob i'm ready i got the list right here i'm ready no no no no don't we have a sting oh shit that's right okay wait don't laugh at me missing the sticks i totally forget this sometimes i also want to warn you guys it's getting dark in tahoe i know shit we have a camera we can see the guy on the west coast is like it's getting dark yeah it's been fucking dark here for three hours all right i'm saying i could get eaten by a fucking bear that's what i'm saying i'll keep that in out of respect it's like grizzly man we have we have what's going on what's happening brother but the real question is is where do these rank

[51:02]on the all-time friendly greeting titled songs number four we got we got a top four friendly greeting song list for for you guys to decide what's number one the first song i can't believe you were able to find four friendly greeting songs that's wild to me number four is actually a recent hit with the kids these days we're gonna go to adele hello mad just got up and went and got his wife out of bed they're slowly dancing right give me three minutes god i'm just i flipped over another car holy shit that's so good it's so good i her voice i don't often say hello from the other side though when i greet people but that's a clip i was told to play the next one rob do you ever say good to see you because sometimes neil young would sing good to see you so let's go neil young good to see you good to see you

[52:02]i don't know this one what that's i recently read a joke on twitter that this is what celebrities say because they don't know if they've ever met someone before or not so they just say it to be safe which i've also done but i'm not a celebrity yeah i always say what's your name and then they're like huh and i'm like no no your first name do you do you guys have it never works it never works as well as you think you guys have a fake name like if you were a bartender would you call everyone champ or superstar what's your name for people that you don't remember in new york everybody calls each other boss and i love that like they hand you a bagel and you're like thanks boss it's so great that's good my wife and i also have a policy if we're at a party and we don't know somebody that we're introducing to the wife or if she's introducing someone to me that she doesn't know their name she'll be like oh this is my husband rob and that's a signal to me that she doesn't actually know their name so i should have to ask got the same thing i'm horrible with names and so i tell my wife if i don't introduce you it's not because i'm being rude i have no idea who that person is so you have to be because i've forgotten which wife i'm with

[53:02]which wife which family they're all across the country right yeah right sometimes i got to go back to ankeny iowa and stuff happens i gotta hang out with my other family what am i gonna do but either way no matter but that's a good question russell because i i i dream about being a bartender and i know that only one of us on this podcast has actually been to bartending school i do dream of being a bartender but i've never come up with what my bartender nickname for for um customers would for most of the bars i've been in it would be you piece of shit well actually that's the next song on my list but rob only let me have four this time so i had to cut you piece of shit out of the list but sometimes you're gonna meet one of your one of your wives across the country and how would you greet her aaron hello darling conway twitty hello darling nice to see you it's been

[54:02]a long time you're just as lovely as you used to be you're just as ugly as you used to be conway twitty what a voice man jesus i think the problem with my opening lines with dating is sometimes i forget the hello darling and i just go right to you're as ugly as i've always remembered you to be or whatever the end of that was and it's never gone back hello from the other side you're as ugly as you used to be but sometimes when you see your buddies what do you say to him conway just say what's up by the four non-blondes what's going on it's called what's up it is called what's up you know that i didn't know that pink live twice and the second time i saw pink she covered this and it was brought the house down you want to talk about a song

[55:01]that japed my junior high and a song that i have sang a karaoke before this is it right here i don't think yeah like i don't think you guys understand the restraint that i'm exercising to not sing along with these songs right now because i don't want to subject our listeners to that says the guy with the masters in vocal performance or whatever yeah don't sing you what do you guys think matt aaron what would you put as the number one friendly greeting song of all time you could i'll even let you pick a marvin gaye song if you want to i'm gonna go with conway twitty yeah conway twitty aaron yeah i'm with matt conway twitty i was so stoked by that one both are great answers but sometimes you guys are not creative enough and you just stick with the list and again we're gonna go off the chart this time he's doing it again because we live in a pandemic world and sometimes a friendly greeting when you get up in someone's face has got to be get back by the beatles hey like get away from me dude in the grocery store get back

[56:01]six feet and also i got news for you rob who's playing keys on this billy motherfucking preston that's right the fifth beetle billy preston is playing keys i have no idea who that is uh i actually god damn it i actually took a chance and i got on russ's bumble earlier and i uh messaged some of the women to ask them what a good opening line would be and this is what a lot of them said and i was like that's not nice not just you come on like disrespectful you know he's a good friend he's one of the original funk brothers uh all right man when you hear that like john's vocals are really good we're not talking about the beatles rosie we're not talking about the beatles we have we have we are talking about the beatles like beatles the beatles 10 more times on this podcast i'm not going to spend any time that i don't have to talk about the beatles talking about who do you guys think flew higher in their lives marvin gaye or the beatles

[57:01]marvin gaye what does that even mean flew higher i don't know that's the title of the next song oh marvin gaye had sex with like he had sex with a million women he also had sex with like marlon brando like the dude was living well sometimes you measure the success of your life by how many people you've helped not how many people you've doinked yeah i respect women okay it's not just about doinking them yeah so sad that we're laughing going into the saddest song on the album uh yeah so this is a fun song about that same vietnam vet coming home and getting addicted to heroin which is a major issue at the time also just more incredible bass work like the bass work is so good you have a brother in vietnam that a lot of this was uh taken from his conversations with his brother oh is that true i'm gonna edit that in earlier i think that's right yeah no i think that's right

[58:01]one of the saddest songs yeah it's not just that he's playing uh you know something that somebody else wrote i mean if you're talking to your brother who's come back who said he's having some issues with coming back i mean you're gonna get some some deep emotions out of that yeah he was living it and it's really wild is it really was a pre it's really a precursor what happened to marvin himself in the 70s with cocaine i mean it just was it's almost like he saw it coming right uh so the next song you know what sometimes after a song like that you just need a nice upbeat song here's one called oh save the children all right so only marvin gaye could take something that's where he's talking and singing live life i mean this should be lame and it's so good i mean he's talking and singing the words that should sound so stupid if i did that you i would sound dumb that was gonna be my question that i do i did little research but that's him both tracks

[59:00]right yeah he's talking and singing the words that should sound so stupid if i did that you i would he's talking and then singing so okay yeah yeah yeah the one other the the strange thing that's also tragic that that this track reminds me so much of old dirty bastard saying wu-tang is for the babies wu-tang is for the children get the button ready and they're both tragic figures right like they get the button ready yeah you know so like i think of old i think of odb rest in peace when i hear this track i was just about to say that rosie um by the way just to give you an idea that was the first time i heard this track and i was like oh my god i don't know if the fourth single off this album you imagine that a talking track yeah being the fourth single but it's a good it's a it's a banger so were there aaron maybe you know were there a lot of is this considered spoken word or were there a lot of these types of tracks back in the 60s and 70s or not um you know i'm gonna get out of my element really quickly but um i would say i'm gonna quickly put in a plug for another podcast uh that has talked about this album which is the heat rocks

[60:00]artist a spoken word poet about this album and um yeah i think i don't i don't know that you would consider this spoken word but i think marvin was surrounding himself with himself with poets and people from that genre at the time and he was certainly influenced by what was going on um around that i don't know when gil scott heron was releasing stuff i mean i think gil scott heron is kind of the um preeminent um you know yeah spoken word guy i don't know when his stuff came out but um yeah i think marvin was certainly influenced by by people like that in fact i think he brought them on tour with him just to give you are you guys and our listeners a little insight into the background search i may or may not have spent a lot of time trying to find a beck song that was spoken word and i did find one but i was terrified if i played it for you guys that you would you would kick me off the podcast because there's no way it's even close to as good as marvin gabe that's never you're the you're the progenitor i'm so proud that you showed restraint there russ nice work

[61:00]uh all right so uh song number five god is love i mean listen to those listen to those congas i'm pretty sure i could say anything or sing anything over the bass and drums on all these songs and it would sound fantastic but can you imagine being at motown with all like the best artists of the time being there and they're all helping you write songs i mean one of the people that wrote helped write this album and didn't get credit for it was smoky robinson i mean like can you imagine sitting down he wrote tons of albums for the motown label can you imagine sitting down writing an album then you're working with smoky robinson like you'd be like oh yeah this is this is easy no problem i think this is interesting too um because to be able to sing about god on record for a long time artists had to choose between gospel and pop music like you know we know sam

[62:00]cook made a choice he left the gospel gospel world to be oh yeah we know that aretha struggled with that her whole life and um it's really fascinating that you know by 1971 marvin was able to bring in gospel on a pop record when that was a thing that just didn't work for many years and so he was really blending you know genres and and um styles i think piggybacking off what aaron said this is a little bit different but it feels like the themes of his songs here really vary right and not all albums do that so he he starts off with what i would consider protest songs and then songs about drugs sounds about god it's really kind of a versatile album if you want to look at it like that right yeah i agree although i think as we talked about like i think in his mind it was all yeah absolutely i was gonna say exactly that it's kind of everything that's going on from east coast west coast north south everything you know here here's what's going on let's talk about it in each of these songs that was matt's smart comment of the

[63:00]week oh that's some smart shit oh yeah stole it right out of rosie's hands it feels it it feels like it's actually not that smart when i play a sting afterwards but i was really impressed by that i don't know it feels like it kind of cheapens it when i have a sound effect where i go oh yeah that was fucking brilliant like can you imagine einstein's like oh this is relativity you know as things speed up they'll actually change size because the space itself contracts and i'm like oh yeah e equals mc squared oh yeah and i know that's not relativity fuck off i know you actually know that what's i don't know that's what relativity was that's impressive i don't know shit you could you're the science do you guys think that einstein would have ever figured that theorem out if he ever listened to our podcast let's say podcasts were a thing back in his day and like he's right on the cusp of figuring this thing out and one day he's like oh i gotta i gotta get rid of this record player i don't want to be part of people like russell in the future i'm gonna get rid of the record player not listen to this music i'm gonna listen to this podcast instead and he heard us and we would have just

[64:02]totally diverted him from figuring out the world hmm this is very interesting e equals mc cubed oh well off to spencer's gifts to shoplift something all right god i have so many good impressions rob's doing einstein impressions now this is what are you some court of einstein some court of einstein god dang it i'm dumb again all right court of einstein just a court of einstein another pint of newton a bit of uh one more scientist think of one more scientist rosie galileo i guess i don't know good ball also a music figure so i don't think that if you're the indigo girls all right and then we have a mercy mercy are they on the list mercy mercy this is an unbelievable song this is the one that messes me up man because i'm living through an environmental disaster he was talking about it before anyone else was this he was talking about it so early mercury he was

[65:02]talking about so early that they had to explain to barry gordy what the word ecology meant right like that's wild and and not only that marvin gaye is so freaking cool that he can sing a song about ecology and it's the number two single on this album like and i just took my pants off like imagine what ladies were doing listen i just you know baby i just want to save the wetlands all right and i have to keep that in my final change of the bumble profile tonight to see how it works tomorrow original funk brother wants to save your wetlands uh all right right on i mean listen to this here we have that this is just uh we're all solo russell let's see that weero action oh he's taking his pants off why is he doing that i was trying to find a sand this one sounds like the band war to me that's where i'm feeling the

[66:02]west coast influence yeah santana west coast bay area zone there's what i'm saying this is the west coast song to me those drums it was just also i it turns out i love jazz flute i just love jazz flute i love rassan roland kirk get it ready i love the eric dolphy stuff from his live and i love you like rassan roland kirk you fucking noob as jazz flute ever been referred to in media before other than wasn't like it referred to an anchorman this has to be the first time it's ever been referred to an anchorman yeah rosie thought he was serious he's like oh yeah aqualung it's not even jazz it's what i'm saying eric dolphy has a fucking rad jazz flute recording off of his live and europe album you guys should check it out russ bought it at target yeah i think i did they didn't i went through the jazz flute section in target they didn't have anything there it was kind of disappointing but they had record players it was picked over it was half the store at the jazz

[67:05]section yeah target really ought to change their focus no wonder they've been struggling through this global pandemic it's carl malone holding a flute oh god i just aaron can you i have a serious question though do you listen to a song and you say oh i can hear the jazz flute what um no i just i mean yeah i can hear the flute in this song and what i'm saying is there are other songs i really enjoy his wife rolls up that limo driver window it's okay honey great i'm glad you can hear the jazz i'm saying i enjoy the flute in the i think i think rosie's gonna have to come up with the top four jazz flute songs of all time for the next album oh how can he only pick four to the country baby i want to go canned heat right can we just restart this i would love to just do the whole

[68:05]the whole podcast about that song instead is this a country joe podcast now that is right country joe and the fish bones i think it was candy i was thinking it was canned heat but i think you're right no no i think you're right it is country joe it's canned heat okay i thought maybe they're too mainstream aaron wouldn't know yeah no i'm saying it turns out i so i end up you guys know i listen to the radio what there's a station that plays a lot of that plays k-102 jazz flute featured all the time from nine to five the jazz flute in the mornings i don't know why crank that radio and listen to your jazz flute i'm i listen to am radio because they have the wiro station also i just heard a thumping noise on the deck out here it may or may not be a bear so if you guys never hear from me again that's what's up that's what's going on can you imagine if you get eaten by a bear and the last thing you said was something about a jazz flute i'd probably rather get eaten by the bear listening to jazz flute than listening to radio head and then at your funeral we're

[69:05]playing um sexual healing on a brass band you guys get it you guys you guys get me that's why i'm on this podcast and we're we're talking to your wife and we're like listen whatever your name is we're so sorry that this happened are we talking to the des moines wife or the oakland one what nights would you be willing to be on our podcast would you be able to be on our podcast how uncomfortable would that be if you had multiple lives and when you died they all had to come together and figure out like hey who's paying for this who's paying for this expense and that's who's gonna be on the podcast that's the most baller move that's having multiple families that's a huge and then they don't find out until the funeral straight up baller totally i could never do it i've always been a big fan of polygamy i think polygamy should be legal but not me like my wife should have another husband that's what i want

[70:00]i mean she'd be like oh why didn't you wash the dishes before you put them in the dishwasher be like well that was fucking roy roy thinks that the dishwasher washes dishes it's the goddamn name of the appliance it's what it does we shouldn't have to wash the dishes before we put them roy you fucking idiot and then i just give roy the fucking business and meanwhile five minutes before roy and i have been playing you know mario kart together or whatever like it'd be awesome if my wife had another husband that'd be great i would love it i also like that it's just your name with one letter change like well yeah for all of our listeners out there if you want to see some good jazz flute players google uh herbie man and look at the herbie man push album that's when you're looking at a pull him up rob so you can see what he looks like i don't know that one i mean many jazz flautists are multi-instrumentalists like russ on the twitter multi-instrumental eric dolphy multi-instrumentalist go to the image go to images go to images

[71:02]russell herbie man push just give everybody idea there's a guy who kind of looks like one of my friend's dads from middle school who is holding a flute over his naked torso that is your new bumble profile now russell put your head on that picture and let's go i have something to say here but i realize if i say it i can never take it back because i know rob will never delete it on the podcast so i can't decide if i should say it or not russell i promise i'll delete it you can trust me when i raided my mom's record collection the record under her mattress the the artist that she had the most of i think was jim croce number two was herbie man the flute player 100 there was at least five to six herbie man albums

[72:03]and this is the greatest moment on this podcast i would i would be happy to go back and and sneak into the back back door like you know make sure the motion detector doesn't go off sneak back into my mom's house and they're legit six to seven herbie herbert man herbie man that's with two n's m-a-n-n for all our listeners i even asked her about i didn't even ask her about most of the albums but i did when i went up before i stole them all i i asked her i said hey who's herbie man and she was like oh he was some flute player who was really popular back in or whatever that's mr man do you russell yeah he does look pretty intimidating yeah i wouldn't mess with that guy i just got done played the flute now i'm gonna kick your ass maybe maybe we could get my mom to do a little cameo we could talk about the herbie man era back in the 70s yeah it's it's it's it's time for one-on-one

[73:07]herbie man and russell's mom oh yeah all right good one i legit had to sit there and stew over whether i would say anything for about 45 seconds to a minute no i'm definitely gonna cut it don't worry about that very happy that you said something it's so good my god i like that aaron that matt is taking the time to just what did you i was trying to see if i was trying to see if there's any other songs other than canned heat and then uh you know this song they had the jazz flute and rosie actually knew what he was talking about and uh can i have to ask a really really stupid question right now is is the jazz flute an instrument or is it just the flute playing jazz music it is no it's not a stupid question as far as i know it's the flute playing jazz music but i could 100 be wrong so i don't

[74:00]know maybe somebody has another another thought but yeah my thought is it's the flute playing jazz music but it's typically like multi-instrumentalists like they'll play herbie shows up with a regular flute and he's like he's playing with the jazz band and he starts playing flight of the bumblebee he's like oh shit this is my jazz flute it's my regular flute wouldn't it be awesome if it was like some tuba looking instrument like some some instrument like the big fat guys had to had to play in high school but it made it sound like like the flute like that would have been rob's number one commandment don't show up with the tuba that sounds like a flute on the first date oh my god put that in your bumble profile russ big fat instrument but it's a flute oh god do you think herbie man's got a twitter account we gotta follow him now yeah this is officially a herbie man podcast and that's not even something that rosie brought up i can't even believe it that's not even something that's something that matt and russ had to talk about i don't know am i the coolest guy on this podcast am i the normal

[75:01]guy on this podcast yeah oh my you don't know herbie man you fucking idiot god russell's mom and i were listening to all these herbie man records i'm gonna go home and steal her let's pause this podcast for a minute i'm gonna go home get a herbie man album and you're gonna play it for our listeners right now let's just give them a little bit of listen wow that was an amazing song that was well well worth me driving home sneaking into my mom's house stealing the eight herbie man albums and playing that song that was fantastic is it true russell that your mom caught you stealing the herbie man albums and cried for five straight minutes while he loaded up in the car and you didn't even care no wonder my son's still single can you imagine getting into some

[76:05]guy's car and you look in the back seat and there's like 30 herbie man albums on the back seat with that one oh man somebody was dating my daughter and they pulled up with a herbie man like shirt on i'd be like uh-uh out guys we gotta get herbie man shirts we should call spencer gifts and see if they've got them in stock herbie man skin flute spencer's gifts that would be a holy holy moment rob i caught it this time okay so for all of rosie's talk i this this is the one every album gets two the good news with that song is it's a minute and i think 55 seconds left or something it's it's

[77:04]very short don't you guys think aaron you haven't really touched on this yet but i kind of when i was listening to this album like i started thinking man he marvin gaye is just an amazing singer right like i know john lennon is way up there on the list for amazing singers but aaron what what do you as a as a singer where do you kind of put marvin gaye on the all-time list i think he's ranked six by rolling stone so there's a few that are above him but what what is your what are your impressions when you listen to him yeah i i should have mentioned that one of the things that i was like when i was trying to learn how to sing as a 12 13 year old kid marvin was one of the ones i was always trying to sing like so i yeah he's he's he does stuff that i could never do um yeah my personal list of of singers includes uh otis redding sam cook marvin uh david ruffin from uh the temptations that's probably the top four for me was he was he the really low guy no he was the david ruffin was the he was no he was the lead singer on my girl basically he was like you know their their best

[78:05]you know main guy but um when i was growing up my as a big guy my favorite singers were guys that could do the really low voice so i was a big oak ridge boys fan statler brothers uh and the guy from uh papa was a rolling stone yeah yeah the temptations had a good base but yeah i mean i've been super stoked uh and i don't want to give away my uh my final rating but yeah this is the first album that we've talked about that has like a truly great voice and marvin is yeah to me one of the greats so it's interesting though that's what i thought marvin gay that's what i thought at first too aaron but then when i was looking at the top five lists we don't need to go through them all but john lennon is actually ranked ahead of him and based on the albums we've listened to and this album that that was shocking to me like what am i missing here i added that's a weird that's a super weird choice i mean marvin could have sung circles around john lennon that makes no sense also i shouldn't have mentioned uh my top four should

[79:02]not have been all males that's uh kind of embarrassing uh aretha and whitney houston be in my in my top so but i don't understand how anyone would listen to marvin gay and john lennon and think they're in the same class in any way i believe i believe aretha was ranked number one by rolling stone the one the only one i believe you did not mention was ray charles is number two that was the only one you had not mentioned aaron oh he's got a great can you guys believe you know that herbie man is ranked third on the rolling stones greatest jazz flutist what i know number one is think of one other flute player can't do it uh i'm gonna edit in something later that i say i'm on burgundy well jethro toll is aqualung so you i mean i don't know who played flute for jethro we're gonna look that up damn it no he did jethro tall was jethro tall is not the guy right i don't know i don't know

[80:01]anything about that band we started talking about raston roland kirk and eric dolphy and you guys took it in a different direction i could always relate to jethro tall but i don't know what he's jethro tall because he's always like looking at panties he was like the old he was like the cisco in the 70s right he's like see the panties in the park i was like this guy i could relate now you guys are strong because you want to hear me go off about make me want to holler you guys don't want to hear me go off about make me want to holler you guys don't want to hear me go off about make me want me you don't hear what i have to say about make me want to holler you're stalling all right so now this is our officially our longest podcast but i don't think i'm going to edit much of it because i love it inner city blues this song my god this was the third single and it was the third single off this album this was the third single off this album to be cracked the top 10 making marvin gay

[81:06]the first male solo artist in history to have three top 10 singles off a single album and he wrote this in a month just the the quiet intensity of this song is what i think about every day when i think about jacob blake and brianna taylor and george floyd and michael brown and all those people who you know who have had to know those people and see them go and not see justice i just think about the the simmering anger people must have to live with every day who are trying to raise black kids who are trying to be around black people this is the song i think about the most and it's the same fucking shit from 1971 just over 1971 50 years 40 years i can't even do math no 50 years right yeah almost 50 years

[82:01]some would say 49 but it's not a math podcast it's not a math podcast but it's i mean it's also a great piece of music the the bass is again great the percussion is great and then anything with marvin's vocals you know to me is great but i should stop talking about the song i honestly think inner city blues might be yeah i think so too and it just again i'm i like the construction of these albums kind of figuring out you know somebody makes a decision how to arrange them where songs go and stuff to have that as the last song is phenomenal way to end the album yeah the sequencing yeah all right so let's get to our final rating of this album rolling well tone this is the rating system again taking the nation by storm our instagram is blowing up and it's definitely not just other podcasts that are following us and trying to get me to follow them i'm telling you guys it is a pathetic world out there trying to promote a podcast it is the saddest group of people they're like following me and you're like i'm not going to listen to you you're not going to listen to me why are we faking this why are we bothering with this who has time to listen to a

[83:02]podcast when you're recording a podcast like there's no time for that i don't have time to listen to podcasts i am making my own podcast i'm not going to listen to you i'm not going to listen to my own art talking about jazz flautist and protected wetlands we're the eddie van halen of this podcast shit yeah don't act like your podcasts are equal to my podcast we're bringing the shit over here big time okay uh our final rating system that i came up with and not anybody else is rolling well toned which means that this deserves to be number six on the list it's got rolling bone meaning this is too low on the list is this album a rolling groan it's too high on the list let's start with you matt what do you think did it get is it rolling well toned rolling bone you know brief quickly i think it's very much a rolling well toned album um you know the musicality of it the message from the lyrics everything fits in perfectly and uh you know the construction of the album was awesome and so it's very much a rolling well totally all right russell what do you think rolling well toned rolling bone rolling groan

[84:05]overall i would say rolling well toned i think the music is really good music is really beautiful and it's pleasurable to listen to and it's thought-provoking and i think aaron said it best i don't know if it was subtle but whatever however aaron characterized it earlier was was really articulate and spot on and i just think the music is is really beautiful and thoughtful is it one of my five favorite albums personally ever or five or six probably not but i can absolutely see why it's ranked this high so i'm going to say rolling well toned aaron what do you think i mean you know i'm going to say rolling boned uh i think this is better than anything we've heard so far it's real musicians playing real music talking about real life so i'm gonna say and those are great answers but the correct answer is actually rolling what's rolling what's going on with how low this is this is this only has one bad song on it this should be way higher you can't tell me that there's five albums that are better than this one when i was playing this around the apartment today everyone listening loved it they just could

[85:03]not get enough of it and they like this even more than when i'm editing a podcast and listening to the same podcast over and over trying to take out a breath they like that more they like marvin gaye more than listening to that is unbelievable uh all right so real quick we're gonna go to we're gonna go to the beck line 802-277-BECK so we call this get back to us get back to us i wish my dates would get back to me more often sorry russ i wasn't able to get back to you in the last minute few weeks i was doing some background search for this podcast i'm doing which happens to have a rival podcast out there and we don't really know how to deal with it if you have a if you have a date say that to you and they know you're doing the beck did it better podcast you need to get out of there because that is some misery shit they're going to take you out to the woods they're going to lock you up and make you do a podcast with them where you talk about jazz did i tell you that i i i finally used the podcast in the conversation to see just just to see what happened

[86:04]what are you doing you fucking idiot how did it go oh no um there was a conversation going back and forth and and she essentially said you know i said you know what's been the best part of your week or what are you looking forward to and she said something and asked well what are you looking forward to and i said i'm taping this podcast i do with my friends because i was just like why not what what's the worst thing that happens she ignores me like everyone else who's doing their background search instead of going out with me and so there was she responded but literally there was absolutely zero response asking like what's the pod there was nothing no regarding the podcast oh no telling people you have a podcast in real life is the saddest experience it's just it's pathetic this is part of the show we call get back to us finally a question for rob that i'd like to hear your opinion on if you had to choose a song from the first four albums that you guys have reviewed

[87:00]that you have to try to pr your deadlift to which one would it be interested to know which one you would choose uh great job guys love the pod keep it going and we'll see you next week all right so he obviously hasn't listened to the last couple of episodes because he says great job keep it going uh and he also said there's only four albums so we are talking about what are our favorite and i'm going to extend this to everybody i think we all know what it's like to max out on a deadlift uh let's talk about what are our favorite songs to rob why is he asking you this or do you power lift or why don't you tell our listeners about your lifting why would he even ask you that i do not like to talk about it but i am currently the number one ranked uh male power lifter over 120 kilos over 40 years old yeah why do you guys refer to it as kilos nobody knows what the fuck that means why don't you just use pounds it's actually it's actually really interesting to nobody else but me but once you start lifting with kilo plates you don't think about pounds anymore like when i'm lifting i have no idea how many pounds it is i know about but it's every everything's in kilos and pretty soon you just

[88:01]switch over to that and then when you weigh yourself in kilos you're like oh you know 145 kilos that's pretty good i can relate to that because i watch a lot of bike racing and i understand kilometers like i know kilometers when i'm watching bike racing i couldn't i couldn't tell you how many kilometers per hour all right moving on we've made it this far before someone yelled who the fuck cared like all the stuff i've done like i took you guys down the round like no one at any point yelled who the fuck cares listen i'm gonna make that into a sound clip who the fuck cares way too off with me let's not make that but i want to know i want to know the answer to the to the caller's question well aaron uh what song would you pick i'm gonna have you go first which should be a sign that you picked a really good one compared to us well here's the thing i'm gonna switch it up because i've been stuck in quarantine so i haven't touched a barbell i haven't touched

[89:00]a barbell since march and so my deadlift uh would not be great so what i'm interested in is how quickly can i do this and how quickly can i do this and how quickly can i do this and how quickly can i do 100 burpees so i chose right on from the album that we're talking about right now because the quickest i've ever done 100 burpees is in nine minutes and 36 seconds and so if i could put this song on and i would come over and play the weero in your garage while you did burpees here and i would do that for you if i could finish 100 burpees in the time that this song is playing which is what like seven and a half minutes i would be in rocking shape so that would be my max i would be 100 burpees within right on matt's matt's on the congas i got a flute your third wife is sitting in the corner like wow this band is amazing we're missing a jazz but the regular it's like a perfect it's the perfect groove to do burpees too it's just that's what i'm that's what that's my choice his current wife drives by with somebody new in the back seat and goes man all right uh i think that was a good so funny to joke about uh all right so i think that was a good choice you could really do 100

[90:05]burpees in nine minutes and 30 seconds yeah like 10 every every minute on the minute i'm starting at zero and then you start your last 10 at nine minutes crazy i'm gonna do that right now let's pause the podcast while i do that let's do it okay so i did it nine minutes and 15 seconds that really wasn't that hard it turns out all right so i think that's so funny all right so for me my song that i would pick the max out to this was a tough one because there's you know i was thinking about yellow submarine and i was thinking listen to the beatles but instead the one i picked like a rolling stone i didn't know green day covered this you dumb shit i enjoyed it wow it's good it's it's fitting that uh somebody with a voice like that you're

[91:07]saying that was green day that was green day covering that yeah that was green day covering bob dylan i like that and yes thank you that's the best choice oh i'm feeling pumped i just did three burpees and i i don't think i can ever get up again uh matt what about you i had this was hard question i mean we've got three beatles albums we've got the beach boys trying to figure out their feelings we've got bob dylan trying to save the world and we're supposed to max out to you know these albums so i you know i i went uh i went off the off the charts a little bit did a cover as well i did uh i think it was tom petty um and who else was on that jeff jeff lin uh george harrison's kid prince comes in with a guitar solo here prince we may need to link to the video of

[92:04]this it is the most gangster thing on youtube burn the house down yeah man this is tell us why the end of this is so gay prince one he leans into the crowd you know he's got his bodyguards and pull back up and then as he's exiting the stage he just throws his guitar in the air and it doesn't come back down and he walks off so we'll have to it is just awesome next time i go on a date i'm gonna throw my jazz flute in the air and it's gonna disappear because rob's gonna be like sitting up on the balcony and these women are gonna be like damn that was impressive you picked the right guy to have hide up in the rafters just to be sitting up there russell who's russell who's that man up there talking about his 10 high school commandments holding your jazz flute right now now we all know matt doesn't just max out once a week on deadlift he's gotta you gotta do legs too right great son you can't just do upper butt you gotta do legs well deadlifts are technically legs but

[93:01]that shows how much you know because actually you do use a lot of upper body when you do deadlift as well so i like that this i have to say matt this find blew my mind i don't remember what oh yeah i don't remember i don't remember what song it is but it's so good matt i already forgot what it was this is like when you ask like your wife like oh you remember our first date and she's like no you're like oh okay that was really important to me this is a little band known as herb albert and the tijuana brats oh this is nice wow one of the greatest friendship songs ever oh my god come on matt lift it here did i get low enough did i get low enough oh this is nice so everybody knows that's herb albert i don't know if there was any jazz flute on that herb albert album but it's pretty good and i realized i was just fiddling through the albums i stole

[94:04]from him and i was like oh my god i don't know if there was any jazz flute on that herb albert album but it's pretty good and i realized i was just fiddling through the albums i stole from my mom and the ninth song on the list is also whipped cream so that has to be the title track from whipped cream and other fancy delights gotta be it oh yeah it's gotta be you can't have i think i think if you're the tijuana brass band you cannot have more than one song about whipped cream do you think herbert man and the jazz flute was featured on tijuana brass album or not uh yeah the brat no is it a it's not a brass instrument it's a woodwind it's true yeah you think there's an oboe on there get out of here that double reed shit there's the perfect opportunity for your you're a dumbass drop or whatever you were gonna put in earlier i can't do it i'd play it too much i play it more than my erin left field drops russ the ultimate deadlifter okay when you're not on dates you know we know that you're out getting jacked okay now that you uh you're so jacked that your elliptical machine only

[95:01]one half of it works only one half of it works what is your song my song i was thinking about this i knew we got this call because i i monitor the phone phone lines daily and we've got to get to delete that voicemail box it's full so fast we got to make sure it stays clear you know chris and i apologize for deleting your other 12 messages it got a little bit overboard yeah sorry yeah sorry got a little overboard but that was fine you know we appreciate your participation even though sometimes you're off point we appreciate it but so i started thinking what is my debt my ultimate max song if i'm gonna max out and i'm gonna i'm gonna lift 112 kilos or whatever that means and i was thinking i don't think there's a beatles song that does it for me there's not a beach boy song that doesn't for me no bob dylan doesn't do it for me no there's only one artist who has been featured on all of these all of these podcasts so far that his song would do it for me and it turns out his song

[96:04]actually made it to number one on the billboard charts it's e-pro by beth yes this is the choice all right yeah you're ready rob could you set the new world on steroid record with this song absolutely not i do have the new york state squat record you do it raw too right right actually i have the new york you know what i have the new york state deadlift record too so next time if i'm at a meet where i get to pick a song i'll pick e-pro come out and i'll set a state record and you know what the fans will be chanting rob back did it better i was gonna say when it comes to songs that you can max out to back did it better all right so that is it for today next week we are coming back guys this is crazy we have a new band weeks in a row nice yeah we're

[97:01]talking but i will say this is gonna confuse me we're talking about the rolling stones on the rolling stone top 500 oh album list with exile on main street this is going to be a disaster when i'm explaining that we're doing rolling stones on the rolling stone list to my dates please don't do that i'm begging you i honestly i feel terrible goodbye podcast land no i don't like that it's not when you want to hear about the greatest album all right andy rosenberger here with the little rosie recap so excellent episode on highway 61 uh first of all the erin anecdote of the day

[98:00]he mentioned that he owns three dylan albums and it's not sure how he came to own those i'm certain that i gave him at least one of those if not all of them uh i guess it might have been a little more memorable if i would have given him a ma rainy record or something i guess that just means that the rest of my vinyl gifting will have to go to russell and his uh little pin box record player kind of thing he's got going on uh mentioned going to a hootie hootie and the blowfish show and booing if darius harker plays his country tunes i had that experience at the iowa state fair last year admittedly the iowa state fair crowd is probably there to hear darius record play country uh the hootie stuff actually completely slapped and i should have booed at the the country sets that he played in honor so i apologize for that stop russell should maybe change his bumble bio to friends road to the danger zone it's a little bit high-minded so probably would not elicit a whole lot of dry shaving but uh might help him find the woman of his dreams so give that a try uh great job guys love the pod keep it going and uh i'll see you next time bye bye

[99:01]we'll see you next week you guys the one the cool thing i heard about the the coolest thing i heard about marvin gaye is he had two wives one that was 17 years older and one that was 17 years younger what do you think the youngest age of the oldest age that i could date would be oldest 85 don't go any older don't go any older if you if you're dating somebody they need to know who herb albert is that's how you know they're the right that's the only that's your only barometer hey you want to go to this herbie man concert tomorrow night i gotta get my walker

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