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Episode 13

Aretha Franklin: I Have Never Loved A Man The Way I Love You (1967) (..r feet)

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About this episodeThis week the Beck Did It Better boys dive into the 1967 record from the Queen of Soul, Aretha Franklin. We are talking about the great documentary "Amazing Grace" and why James Cleveland bugged us so much. We delve into recording the album at Muscle Shoals and why Aretha's version of RESPECT is so much better than Otis Redding's.  We get a couple of calls from (very nice) people (that we don't make fun of) demanding to have Matt talk more and we get into whether or not Oasis' "Wonderwall" is a good stadium song for the Minnesota United FC or if something more homegrown might work better. We
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[00:00]In 2020, four friends decided to listen to every one of the greatest 500 albums as decided by Rolling Stone magazine.

[00:06]This resulted in a text chain that celebrated the music, excoriated the order, and led us to making this podcast.

[00:12]We are far from experts, and we promise to do almost no research.

[00:15]All opinions are our own, unless you disagree.

[00:17]Please sit back and enjoy.

[00:19]Beck did it better.

[00:21]This is album 13, Aretha Franklin's I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You.

[00:30]And now, here to sing America, the beautiful, the queen of soul, Miss Aretha Franklin!

[00:44]Oh my God, is this real?

[00:45]Is this real?

[00:46]Oh my God.

[00:51]Ooh, this podcast is free.

[00:56]It don't cost no money.

[01:00]And Aaron laughs at things that are funny.

[01:03]After Aaron says, can you guys text to me?

[01:06]Yeah, baby.

[01:08]Text to me.

[01:10]Pictures to my phone.

[01:12]Oh, baby.

[01:14]He wants PICs of F-double-E-Ts.

[01:17]He needs to see those pictures, please.

[01:19]PICs of F-double-E-Ts.

[01:22]Dirty feet of your wifeies, please.

[01:24]Just some feet for Aaron's phone.

[01:30]Just some feet for Aaron's phone.

[01:33]So he can beat his little bone.

[01:37]Oh, Ross, I don't like that you wrote that.

[01:40]Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, respect.

[01:45]When you want to hear about the greatest albums of all time.

[01:49]But you're just too busy to get up on time.

[01:54]I don't get it.

[01:55]But if you want to hear guys who chat and then they get off track.

[02:00]I've got the perfect podcast for you, Jack.

[02:05]Beck did it better.

[02:07]Fuck this.

[02:08]We're going to listen to that again.

[02:09]Oh, I should just start with the F-bomb right off the bat.

[02:11]All right, everybody.

[02:13]Welcome to Beck did it better.

[02:15]Guys, I had a little email.

[02:17]Okay, so I realized that maybe I'm piling on Aaron a little.

[02:19]Listen, Aaron, I love you.

[02:20]Yeah, I want to get that publicly.

[02:22]After listening to the Michael Jackson intro where I also mentioned your penchant for feet and then this.

[02:27]And then now I realize that my next joke is also.

[02:30]Hey, same thing.

[02:30]Aaron wrote the intro today.

[02:32]So let me read it in an email.

[02:35]Hey, say hi to three guys who want to put their F-I-N-G-E-R-S in Rob's M-O-U-T-H.

[02:43]Why did I do that?

[02:48]Why did I say something like that?

[02:50]I think I wrote it in a fever dream.

[02:51]All right.

[02:52]So let's say hello.

[02:54]I got Russ in Minnesota.

[02:57]Russ, how are you doing?

[02:58]Get in the groove and let the.

[03:00]Let the podcast roll.

[03:01]I'm going to stay here till this Moscow mule soothes my soul, Rob.

[03:04]Great.

[03:05]Matt.

[03:06]Matt in Minneapolis.

[03:07]How are you doing?

[03:08]Doing great, Rob.

[03:09]Thanks for having me.

[03:10]And Aaron out in Oak Town.

[03:11]How are you doing, Aaron?

[03:12]I'm recovering from that intro right now.

[03:15]Yeah, well, I would laugh the hardest and it was all my own jokes.

[03:19]It makes me laugh.

[03:20]It's the saddest thing of all time.

[03:22]Why are you looking at your phone?

[03:23]Are you getting text messages?

[03:24]Yeah.

[03:25]Text messages to myself, from myself.

[03:27]Good job, Rob.

[03:28]Thank you so much, Rob.

[03:30]I appreciate it.

[03:30]Aaron's getting some feet.

[03:32]I got, yeah, a lot of them from everywhere.

[03:33]All our listeners in Idaho and other places.

[03:37]Yeah, I got all the feet pics.

[03:38]Hey, can I tell you, by the way, I did have somebody email the Beck at Beck did it better

[03:43]at gmail.com is a great way to get ahold of us.

[03:44]Now, this is somebody I know, but they did email me, first of all, a picture of one of

[03:49]the callers, Kristen from Minneapolis.

[03:51]I got a picture.

[03:52]I'll give you a hint.

[03:53]The person who emailed me did give birth to one of our children.

[03:55]So maybe that'll narrow it down.

[03:57]They sent me a picture of one of the callers.

[04:00]And they sent me a very nice link to a box that I can put children's teeth in.

[04:04]So my wife doesn't accidentally eat anymore.

[04:06]So I thought that was very kind.

[04:08]And I appreciate you using the email, but I did want to reach out and say, if anybody

[04:10]is out there who doesn't know any of us and you listen to this podcast, shoot me an email.

[04:15]I promise I won't email back.

[04:16]I promise I won't do anything.

[04:17]I won't be weird about it.

[04:18]I just want to see if anybody's actually listening or if it's all bots out there.

[04:21]But before we start, we've got, we have to go to the Beck line.

[04:24]We've got a special double voicemail.

[04:27]Oh boy.

[04:30]Oh yeah.

[04:32]This is Barry calling from Burnsville.

[04:35]I just have a suggestion.

[04:38]I think you got edited out the first time.

[04:39]Maybe you guys should let Matt talk a little bit more on the show.

[04:44]We're kind of getting sick of hearing all the Aaron stories.

[04:50]And you know, he's from California.

[04:54]Ooh, we're having notes for a little faster.

[04:57]Maybe avocado toast.

[04:59]Great.

[05:00]And we're sick of those stories.

[05:02]How about letting Matt talk a little bit, Matt?

[05:04]My gosh, the guy's got some of the most smartest things to say, but all you guys always just

[05:10]talk all over him.

[05:11]I mean, let the guys work and talk for one.

[05:14]Kristen from Minneapolis probably is allowed to talk more than he is.

[05:20]So just let Matt talk.

[05:23]Let Matt talk.

[05:25]Let Matt talk.

[05:27]So two things.

[05:29]Hold on.

[05:29]Sorry.

[05:30]Barry, you're going to get edited out again.

[05:31]Matt, why don't you comment on that quickly?

[05:33]All right.

[05:35]Well, I thought I was going to talk about the next thing, right?

[05:37]Guy from Burnsville sounds pretty good for a guy from Burnsville.

[05:40]Okay.

[05:40]So let me do my bit that I wrote.

[05:41]Matt, you got to stop taking over this podcast.

[05:43]Number one, I'm sorry to Barry that he's going to get edited out again.

[05:47]Number two, Matt, why don't you tell a funny joke right now?

[05:50]Tell a funny joke?

[05:53]Yeah.

[05:53]Why not?

[05:54]All right.

[05:54]Have you guys.

[05:55]Oh, no.

[05:56]Oh, God.

[05:56]He's got one.

[05:57]Do you guys know the four kinds of orgasms?

[05:59]No.

[05:59]No.

[06:00]It's getting real.

[06:00]It's getting real in the field.

[06:02]All right.

[06:03]So we've got another voicemail coming in.

[06:05]Actually, you know what?

[06:06]I want to hear the rest of that joke.

[06:07]What are the four kinds of orgasms?

[06:08]All right.

[06:09]Well, there's the positive.

[06:11]Oh, yes.

[06:12]Oh, yes.

[06:13]And there's the negative.

[06:14]Oh, no.

[06:15]Oh, no.

[06:16]And then there's the religious.

[06:19]Oh, God.

[06:20]Oh, God.

[06:20]And then there's the fake.

[06:22]Oh, Rob.

[06:23]Oh, Rob.

[06:24]Hey, oh, Rob.

[06:27]Oh, Rob.

[06:27]That's going to be a running bit through the whole thing.

[06:29]That's going to stay in this pod.

[06:30]Rob, you're going to have to edit this part out.

[06:32]I'm editing all Barry's stuff out.

[06:34]They're going to have to edit this out.

[06:35]There's the Rob's wife.

[06:36]Oh, Steve.

[06:36]Oh, Steve.

[06:37]I'm always running Rob's own jokes back on him.

[06:44]You know, I cannot wait for Thanksgiving break where I'm just editing this podcast.

[06:48]All right.

[06:51]Let's go.

[06:51]So the person has spoken quite slowly, and they said that we want to let Matt talk more.

[06:57]So we will definitely.

[06:57]Now, I will say.

[06:59]We have not released the the Lauryn Hill episode yet so that you're going to get a big dose

[07:03]of Matt coming up next week where he's actually given the history.

[07:06]Why am I saying that now?

[07:07]Because you're going to hear this like three weeks ago.

[07:10]This I'm so confused.

[07:13]This is definitely a looper type situation.

[07:15]This is like back to the future, but I'm like somehow not wanting to have sex with my mom.

[07:21]I'm just dumb.

[07:22]Rob, your mic's off.

[07:26]All right.

[07:27]Hit the brakes already on the podcast.

[07:29]Pump those brakes.

[07:29]All right.

[07:30]There it's back on.

[07:31]I constantly get questions or people that say, oh, that Russell, he laughs so funny.

[07:39]Who are you?

[07:39]Why are you outside my window?

[07:40]And they're really I mean, they're talking about Rosie.

[07:43]So I don't know why my friends who listen to this, they cannot get this straight.

[07:47]But Russell Russ is in Minneapolis is in Minnesota.

[07:51]Say hi, Russ.

[07:52]Hello, everyone.

[07:55]Hello.

[07:56]Rosie.

[07:56]Rosie is out.

[07:58]Ranger.

[07:59]Rosie is out in Oakland.

[08:03]That's me.

[08:03]He's the one that laughs all the time.

[08:04]Yeah, I don't tell Rosie this.

[08:06]I don't tell any jokes.

[08:07]Russell tells the jokes.

[08:08]I do the laughing.

[08:09]Right.

[08:09]Russell.

[08:10]Russell's the one who comes up with all the funny stuff.

[08:12]Yeah.

[08:12]Rosie just laughs.

[08:13]I just laugh at it.

[08:14]I wouldn't say that.

[08:15]I think people are confused over who's laughing between Aaron and Russ.

[08:19]I think if it's a Rob bad joke and someone's laughing, it's because Rob has piped in Aaron's

[08:24]laugh, which he admitted earlier that he does.

[08:28]So if it's a real good joke, then it's probably Russ laughing.

[08:31]All right.

[08:35]So once again, all that is getting edited out.

[08:37]Next.

[08:39]Now, I don't.

[08:40]Let's be clear.

[08:41]I don't pipe in.

[08:42]Rosie's laughs on the podcast are all legit.

[08:44]Now, have I edited something I've set out that Aaron laughs at afterward and just kept

[08:48]in Aaron's laugh for the second time?

[08:50]Yes, I have done that.

[08:51]Do I sometimes extend Aaron's laugh into an edit so you can't tell where I edit it?

[08:55]Yeah, but it's still there.

[08:57]Do I always laugh?

[08:58]All my own questions?

[08:59]Yes.

[09:00]Yes, I do.

[09:00]Okay.

[09:01]And plus, I mean, Rob's bad jokes.

[09:03]Rob's like the Brett Favre.

[09:05]Like, Brett Favre used to always do that.

[09:06]What?

[09:08]Do's to do what?

[09:08]He would always say, like, he would always ask himself the question and then answer the

[09:12]question.

[09:13]Move on.

[09:14]Move along.

[09:14]Should I show a text of my small penis next to these crocs?

[09:19]Yes, I should.

[09:20]Thanks, Brett Favre.

[09:22]Nice to hear from Brett Favre.

[09:24]Nice to hear.

[09:27]Oh, I just got a text from Brett Favre.

[09:28]Brett Favre.

[09:28]Oh, no.

[09:29]All right.

[09:30]Is it his feet?

[09:33]Yeah, it was the definition of dirty feet.

[09:34]It wasn't focused on his feet, but his feet were in there.

[09:36]All right.

[09:38]Hi, this is Claire.

[09:41]I am a long-time listener, first-time caller, and I also happen to be one of Rob's cousins.

[09:46]I am calling to weigh in on the topic from a couple podcasts ago about Wonderwall and

[09:54]whether it is a good stadium song to be played for.

[09:58]As a season ticket holder to MNUFC, I will say I do understand the history of the song

[10:09]and why it is the current celebratory song when the team wins a game.

[10:15]However, I will agree with the Beck Did It Better members that it is not a good song

[10:25]for a celebratory win.

[10:27]Right.

[10:27]In fact, I agree.

[10:28]I agree.

[10:28]I think that MNUFC should actually use Prince's Let's Go Crazy like other Minnesota sports

[10:36]teams have.

[10:37]It's just a better song.

[10:39]Imagine that.

[10:39]It's actually upbeat, and it makes you want to dance instead of Wonderwall, which makes

[10:43]you want to stand there and think, wow, why is it such a slow song playing after everyone

[10:48]is so happy and hyped up?

[10:50]Smart, yeah.

[10:51]Keep up the good work, gentlemen.

[10:52]I really enjoy this podcast, and it is a bright spot in the doom and gloom that is 2020.

[10:58]Okay, three things.

[10:59]Three things.

[11:00]Yeah, three things.

[11:00]I got three things.

[11:01]Number one, how is her mic quality better than Aaron's voice in the first three recordings

[11:05]of this episode?

[11:06]That sounded so good.

[11:08]Whatever mic or phone or whatever she's using, we should use that for the podcast.

[11:12]I think I fixed that problem, right?

[11:13]I feel like the mic.

[11:14]Okay.

[11:14]Number two, no offense, and I want to be clear.

[11:18]We have the dumbest callers.

[11:20]That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my whole life, okay?

[11:22]Our listeners are the scum of the earth.

[11:25]They have no brain cells whatsoever.

[11:27]That is a terrible take.

[11:28]Listen to this right now.

[11:29]You're at a soccer game.

[11:31]Somebody just scored a goal.

[11:33]She said she is a season ticket holder, goes to the games, and doesn't like the song.

[11:41]I'm singing.

[11:43]Aaron, you want to sing right now?

[11:45]You're going to be the one that saves me.

[11:47]Oh, saving.

[11:48]What happens in a soccer game?

[11:50]Saves.

[11:51]Thank you.

[11:51]Yes.

[11:52]Oh, I'm so pumped.

[11:54]So pumped.

[11:55]This is so exciting.

[11:56]I think I...

[11:57]If you imagine a whole...

[11:58]I don't know.

[11:58]I don't know.

[11:58]I don't know.

[11:58]I don't know.

[11:58]If you imagine a whole stadium...

[11:59]Yeah, that's the problem.

[12:00]I want to disagree with her until she suggests, let's go crazy, and then I can't disagree.

[12:04]So let's say the Wild, or whatever the soccer team's name is, score.

[12:08]What do they play?

[12:09]The Wild.

[12:10]Wild, the Ludes, whatever it is, yeah.

[12:14]We're just like, we're going to be the Wild, too.

[12:16]Are you sure?

[12:17]Whatever these third-rung professional teams that nobody cares about...

[12:20]What do they play?

[12:20]What should they play?

[12:21]Oh, my God.

[12:22]I never talked about Emerson like this.

[12:24]Okay, here we go.

[12:25]I'm going to let the elevator break.

[12:28]Oh, no.

[12:29]Let's go.

[12:30]Yes.

[12:30]No, you can't sing this.

[12:33]Yes, this is way better.

[12:33]No.

[12:33]You can't sing along with this.

[12:36]I can't argue.

[12:37]Yes, you can.

[12:38]No.

[12:39]Hey, here's the real way to resolve this.

[12:41]I've tried many times.

[12:41]You can dance to it.

[12:42]I've tried many times.

[12:43]You can move, shake your hips.

[12:44]Aaron, how many...

[12:45]Get your jiggly parts going.

[12:46]How many MLS soccer games have you been to in your life?

[12:49]I have yet to go to...

[12:51]Oh, interesting.

[12:52]I've not been to an MLS soccer game yet.

[12:53]Interesting.

[12:54]Matt, how many MLS games have you been to?

[12:57]None.

[12:58]Zero.

[12:58]We're at a combined zero between the two.

[13:00]Rob, how many?

[13:01]Well, let's see.

[13:03]Carry the three.

[13:04]Zero.

[13:05]So, between the three of you, you've been to zero MLS games.

[13:08]And we just got a call from one of our dedicated listeners

[13:11]who is a season ticket holder that said,

[13:13]Wonderwall, not a great soccer son.

[13:15]I think we know the answer.

[13:18]I've got a really good buddy, Brandon from...

[13:21]Well, he's from Richfield.

[13:22]He lives in Minneapolis now.

[13:24]We should get Brandon on.

[13:25]He is the biggest soccer fan I know.

[13:27]He's a football fan.

[13:28]And his whole family is just nuts.

[13:30]And I think we should get him on next week

[13:32]to have him explain it to us.

[13:34]Because as your cousin said, there is a story behind it.

[13:37]And Brandon keeps trying to tell me there's a story.

[13:39]And I just want to say, I don't care.

[13:40]I don't...

[13:41]Whatever you're going to tell me...

[13:42]Now he knows what it's like to be on the podcast with Matt.

[13:43]There's no...

[13:44]He's really excited.

[13:45]There's no way...

[13:46]Yeah, some story.

[13:46]Hey, Matt, what do you think about this?

[13:48]Shut up.

[13:48]I actually had a couple songs that may be better soccer songs

[13:51]than what you guys think.

[13:52]And the first one is done by the namesake of our podcast.

[13:57]It's Beck Dreams.

[13:58]Rob, if you could pull that up.

[14:01]This is better than Wonderwall for a soccer song.

[14:06]It's a jam.

[14:06]There's no words.

[14:07]Oh, okay.

[14:09]Wait a minute.

[14:09]It's better.

[14:10]You're right.

[14:10]This is good.

[14:11]This is a jam.

[14:12]But the reason it's definitely got to be on the list

[14:14]is this was listed as like the 20th best song ever

[14:19]that's been included on a FIFA soccer game.

[14:21]So FIFA 2016, this was the song when people played the video game.

[14:26]So this has to...

[14:27]This has to be up there.

[14:28]One other soccer song that has also been really popular

[14:32]and that is this song.

[14:34]Have you guys ever heard...

[14:35]Have you guys ever heard of this song,

[14:37]Hi-Ho Silver Lining, which was done by Jeff Beck?

[14:40]Oh, here he is.

[14:43]Ripping the guitar.

[14:44]Here we go.

[14:44]Check this out.

[14:46]Everybody's in the stand.

[14:49]Here we go.

[14:50]Oh, that was nice.

[14:55]That is a soccer song.

[14:57]That is a soccer song.

[14:58]In fact, it has been adapted by several soccer clubs,

[15:02]including Aston Villa, Sheffield Wednesday,

[15:04]and Wolverhampton Wanderers,

[15:06]which are all bigger teams in the world

[15:08]than the loons of Minnesota.

[15:11]So I got to ask you guys,

[15:12]when it comes to soccer songs,

[15:14]who does it better?

[15:15]I just gave you two examples,

[15:16]FIFA and Premier League clubs.

[15:19]Who does it better?

[15:19]Beck and Beck.

[15:20]Beck and Beck.

[15:21]Double Beck.

[15:22]Double Beck.

[15:23]Beck Square does it better.

[15:25]Oh!

[15:25]Yeah.

[15:27]Yeah.

[15:27]Hi-ho, Silver Lining.

[15:31]All right.

[15:33]So I'm glad that you guys agree with me

[15:35]that the caller was wrong.

[15:36]Okay.

[15:37]Rob, we appreciate our voicemails.

[15:40]How can people get a hold of the voicemail

[15:41]if they want to call him?

[15:42]They can call the Beck line.

[15:44]The Beck line is a very mysterious number

[15:46]that none of us seem to remember

[15:47]when anyone actually asks us,

[15:48]but it is 802-277-BECK.

[15:51]That's 802-277-2325.

[15:54]Oh, yeah.

[15:56]By the way, I should say this.

[15:59]You can also text the Beck's line.

[16:00]Okay?

[16:01]So if you want to text, you know,

[16:02]what you want to say

[16:03]or maybe some pictures of some of the piggies for Aaron,

[16:06]I'll forward those out to Aaron.

[16:07]So let us know if you text the pictures of feet.

[16:09]I will forward them to Aaron.

[16:10]That is the Beck did it better promise.

[16:12]All right.

[16:13]Seal of approval.

[16:14]And I'm thinking about editing that out too.

[16:16]I'm thinking that might be a mistake

[16:17]now that I think about who's listening to this show.

[16:19]All right.

[16:21]So let's get into it.

[16:22]Let's get into our rolling going.

[16:26]It's, it's, it's, it's time to see what everybody's up to.

[16:32]It's time for rolling going.

[16:35]Oh, yeah.

[16:39]All right.

[16:40]I'd like to see those callers come up

[16:41]with something brilliant like that.

[16:42]And now I have to switch back to my other window

[16:46]where I actually had what I was going to talk about.

[16:48]Actually, let's go this.

[16:48]Rolling going.

[16:49]Matt, rolling going.

[16:50]How's it going with you?

[16:50]Yeah, it's going good, Rob.

[16:53]I was running into this.

[16:56]I was running into this episode a little late today

[16:58]because I was roughing a football game,

[17:00]a high school football game.

[17:01]And it was, I was supposed to be roughing tomorrow

[17:04]with this governor shut down all youth sports in Minnesota here.

[17:07]So every single game that was tomorrow, everybody.

[17:10]All right, Aaron, we see your thumbs down.

[17:11]We get it.

[17:12]Yeah.

[17:12]Everybody, you know, every volleyball, high school, hockey,

[17:18]you know, everything was rushing to get a game in today.

[17:21]And, you know, this is too.

[17:24]That's the purpose of the shutdown.

[17:25]I know.

[17:25]I mean, so it's kind of funny.

[17:27]But as of midnight, there can't be any youth sports

[17:29]for four weeks here in Minnesota.

[17:31]And so it's kind of the fallacy in the whole thing.

[17:34]But, you know, my heart literally, as a person who played,

[17:40]I played three sports in high school and then played in college.

[17:42]And I know you guys were in extracurriculars

[17:45]and played sports and other things in high school.

[17:47]I can't imagine what some of these kids are going through,

[17:51]like especially their senior year where, you know,

[17:54]like your whole identity.

[17:55]Good, bad or different, you know, but you put so much time into it.

[17:58]And it just gets shut down like that because of this pandemic that's going on.

[18:02]And, you know, there's I personally don't think there's any right answer.

[18:05]Shut it down.

[18:07]Keep it open.

[18:08]I mean, it's such a wild thing that's going on.

[18:11]But my heart goes out to all of them, literally.

[18:13]And I couldn't imagine being in their shoes where all of a sudden you're like,

[18:17]oh, we got the best team in the state.

[18:18]But, oh, we got to be cut off now because of a mandate, you know.

[18:22]And it's just and so I feel bad for everybody.

[18:25]We have some friends of ours that are teachers and that are coaches

[18:29]and coach in the fall sports.

[18:31]And I feel bad for them.

[18:32]You know, they put in the time and the effort.

[18:34]But at the same time, I really hope that we can get past all of this.

[18:39]You know, everybody can kind of pull their weight to get past this

[18:44]so we can get through this.

[18:45]But, you know, to everybody out there, it's tough.

[18:49]Now, that being said, you know, it's here comes.

[18:53]I want to say that.

[18:55]There might not be anybody.

[18:56]So I ref high school football and basketball.

[18:59]I don't tell a lot of people that I really don't.

[19:02]And because there might not be.

[19:03]You just told a few thousand podcast.

[19:06]I just told I just told the tent are 10 for 10 years or so are tens of

[19:11]listeners.

[19:11]But there might not be a weirder group of people in the world than high

[19:16]school officials, people who want to ref.

[19:18]I would agree with that.

[19:20]I would argue with you.

[19:22]And so I and I feel bad for everybody.

[19:25]I feel bad for everybody.

[19:25]I feel bad.

[19:25]So, like, it's one of those things where I try not to identify with

[19:30]them, but I am one of them.

[19:31]Do you guys have anything, anything you're a part of that?

[19:34]It's like, oh, I love doing this, but I just I don't tell a lot of

[19:38]people.

[19:38]I actually.

[19:39]Well, the podcast.

[19:40]Yes, but.

[19:40]But the one thing I was actually a soccer ref when I was a kid.

[19:48]Did you guys know that?

[19:49]I've heard this.

[19:50]I know a bit about this.

[19:51]So I refereed I refereed youth soccer when I was about.

[19:55]Thirteen years old.

[19:56]And I remember I got paid twenty five bucks a game.

[19:58]And I was like, this is the greatest job ever for a kid.

[20:00]Right.

[20:00]You get to go outside, just like be involved with sports and they pay you

[20:04]for it.

[20:04]But I was the absolutely worst referee in the history of the world.

[20:08]My my two biggest downfalls were like one.

[20:13]I wasn't really a soccer fan, so I didn't really know the rules.

[20:15]I got certified, so they paid me more, but I didn't really know it.

[20:18]What was going on, too?

[20:19]He was always looking to the sideline to see what song they're playing.

[20:21]Then he's like, no, not that song.

[20:22]I got this.

[20:23]I got these three songs.

[20:24]I think you're really going to like to take my headphones out.

[20:27]It was really annoying.

[20:28]But but my biggest downfall as a referee is I never would start my watch.

[20:33]So I would be out there.

[20:34]No.

[20:35]And there would be like, you know, 10 year old kids running around.

[20:39]It's like ninety five degrees and we're like 20 minutes into the half.

[20:43]And there are parents yelling at me, ref, how much time's left?

[20:46]How much time's left?

[20:47]And I would always look at my watch and be like, my watch hasn't started.

[20:50]So I would just have to be like eight minutes left.

[20:52]I would just make time all the time.

[20:54]Oh, my God.

[20:55]So that was my my worst thing that I never remember to start the watch.

[20:59]But the other thing is I didn't really believe in calling hands in soccer.

[21:03]Like if if someone got the ball kicked at them.

[21:06]OK, that's like the one rule that everyone about soccer knows.

[21:10]Offsides, people are like dicey or like you can't use your hands.

[21:15]That's the one thing.

[21:15]I'm not saying like some kid grabs the ball and runs with it rugby style.

[21:19]I'm going to call that.

[21:19]But my point is, like, if some 10 year old is about to get kicked in the face with the ball,

[21:24]the balls flying at their face and they put their hands up, I just always let it go.

[21:27]And so some parents and coaches wouldn't care.

[21:30]They're like, hey, the intent of it is, you know, we don't want some kid get hit in the face.

[21:34]So I would just never call it.

[21:35]But some parents would lose their shit over that and would like scream at me.

[21:39]So I decided to get out of the reffing game very early in the process.

[21:42]I feel like Matt's got a better temperament for it and a better ability to hit start on his watch.

[21:48]Matt, what's if you have advice for people trying to go into reffing because they hate themselves?

[21:53]What?

[21:53]What piece of advice would you give?

[21:55]Like, what's the one thing you need to have as a ref?

[21:57]Matt, what piece of advice would you have for people?

[21:59]What's the one thing you would tell a new ref?

[22:00]Like the most important thing beside what a handball is more.

[22:03]I mean, seriously, this sounds really counterintuitive, but the rules in high school and younger mean absolutely nothing.

[22:12]OK, like everybody knows that there's rules you're going to miss.

[22:15]You're going to miss traveling.

[22:16]You're going to miss out of bounds.

[22:19]You're going to miss a handball here and there.

[22:21]But being able to help a kid.

[22:23]Move from point A to point B or help a coach help a kid move from point A to point B, making sure, like especially in youth sports, that a kid comes back the next year and is not like embarrassed out there like that should be as much as the coach is doing, like the ref should should do that as well.

[22:39]Do we have like, hey, do we have some is there a sting for like that's some sensitive shit for Matt?

[22:44]Do we have like a that's some that's some mean old daddy at all.

[22:48]That's some that's some compassionate shit.

[22:50]Do we have one of those?

[22:51]We have one.

[22:51]We got to create one.

[22:52]That's some.

[22:53]That's some passionate shit.

[22:54]I don't care.

[22:59]It's like the jam.

[22:59]I'll play whatever I want.

[23:00]Here's the thing.

[23:02]You just gave me a huge flashback because when I was in sixth grade basketball, I missed like one practice.

[23:08]No, seventh grade basketball.

[23:09]I missed one practice.

[23:10]And then I went to the next game.

[23:11]Right.

[23:11]And I kept getting called.

[23:13]I bet I got called for three seconds in the lane.

[23:15]Twenty five times, like in a game, I got called twenty five times for three seconds.

[23:21]I would have never knew what it was because I wasn't a basketball player.

[23:23]I wasn't a basketball fan.

[23:24]I didn't watch basketball on TV.

[23:25]And I was three seconds in the lane and they kept calling and calling.

[23:27]And I was like, what is he saying?

[23:28]Three seconds.

[23:29]And I never even knew he was like, you know, that's crazy.

[23:31]But like the dude, like, honestly, all the dude had to say is you, Mr.

[23:36]Buzzy haired kid over here.

[23:38]First of all, thank you for calling me, mister.

[23:41]I appreciate that.

[23:42]Because I almost had a pubic hair.

[23:45]You can you can only be in the lane for three seconds at a time.

[23:49]And then you got to get out.

[23:50]Like, how tough would it have been for that dude to say that?

[23:53]Question one.

[23:53]What is the lane?

[23:55]What are you talking about?

[23:56]I was busy watching.

[23:59]Look, I'm at my watch for the last.

[24:00]Maybe maybe maybe you shouldn't have played basketball.

[24:02]Question number two.

[24:03]Should you have said this to me before?

[24:04]I'm showering in the locker room.

[24:05]Why are you in here with me?

[24:06]I only made it one year as a basketball referee because every time someone would go in the lane,

[24:12]I would have to look down at my watch and hit start on the stopwatch.

[24:15]It was terrible at it.

[24:17]Every time they would get out right at like two point nine nine and I had to reset it.

[24:21]Meanwhile, there's like flagrant fouls.

[24:23]I was going on all around us and I'm just staring at my watch.

[24:25]It was terrible.

[24:26]Yeah.

[24:26]All right.

[24:27]Rolling, going, Aaron.

[24:28]What's rolling, going with you?

[24:29]It's really good.

[24:31]It's really good.

[24:32]Good.

[24:32]I, you know, I've been really I'm going to be serious for a moment.

[24:37]I'm going to try a lot of bad news in the world.

[24:40]Right.

[24:40]But this week I just feel so fortunate that I got to spend I just it felt like going to church all week just listening to this album and then every other thing about Aretha that I could listen to.

[24:51]And so I just.

[24:53]I want to say thank you to you guys and to our thousands of listeners who let me do this because this is this came at the exact right time.

[25:01]I'm really I'm really happy to be here talking about this album.

[25:05]So so that's rolling, going good.

[25:07]I guess it's not ironic or just a.

[25:10]Why are you laughing?

[25:12]Like a fun twist of fate in that Matt was late because he was reffing a football game.

[25:19]I was not late, but I was streaming.

[25:22]A high school football game.

[25:24]Shout out to the 2020 Ankeny Hawks.

[25:28]My my alma mater of Ankeny won their third state title of the last 25 years tonight beat Southeast Polk.

[25:37]So I watched that on the Internet and they they play two man football.

[25:40]So that's a super popular there.

[25:42]No, that's funny.

[25:43]Did they beat Polk?

[25:45]I the alma mater of Al Bundy for touchdowns in one game.

[25:48]Is that what you just said?

[25:49]This is funny.

[25:50]The Iowa eight man football.

[25:52]They were.

[25:52]They were in like 80 points in the eight man games.

[25:54]But no, they beat Southeast Polk.

[25:56]So, yeah, shout out the Ankeny Hawks.

[25:57]And obviously it was fine, you know, to play football there because COVID is going fine there.

[26:02]Maybe edit that out.

[26:03]Sorry, family.

[26:04]That's it.

[26:06]That was I was enjoying that.

[26:07]And it has me feeling a little bit misty at my advanced age and looking back on my life and thinking about the fact that I get to hang out and talk with you guys about music.

[26:15]You're going to play Glory Days.

[26:17]I was just going to say I'm playing Glory Days in the background right now for this whole part.

[26:20]Yeah.

[26:21]You know,

[26:22]I had another I had another football dream.

[26:24]I have these.

[26:25]I have no desire to play football.

[26:26]When I got done playing football in college, it was I actually got offered to play at this like not professional, but whatever, like the very lowest, like a bunch of guys going on.

[26:36]Laundry football.

[26:36]Laundry football.

[26:38]Rob, how many how many years did you try out for Laundry Football League?

[26:42]They called me the short snapper.

[26:45]I was like, well, I could be a short snapper or a loose end.

[26:50]And I was like, I don't know.

[26:52]Either one of those.

[26:52]It was two man.

[26:54]It was only two man football.

[26:54]So I didn't get it.

[26:55]Here's the thing.

[26:56]A lot of jokes there.

[26:58]Here's the thing is that they offer.

[26:59]They the guy came in like, hey, do you want to come play in this adult league?

[27:02]And I was like, absolutely not.

[27:03]I made it through my whole career without getting hurt.

[27:05]I don't want to go to play in front of like two people and get hurt.

[27:09]But I still have dreams now where I will be.

[27:12]They'll be asking me to come back and play in a college game, which nobody would ever do it a million years.

[27:16]If you looked at me, nobody be like you get in there.

[27:18]You're pretty.

[27:19]You're pretty strong.

[27:20]That is why I said that.

[27:22]Because I wanted somebody to make that statement.

[27:23]But I'll have a dream where it's halftime and they want me to go out there for the second half.

[27:29]And I can never find like my shoes or my helmet or my shoulder pad.

[27:32]And then the game starting or that's when I wake up for the lingerie season that you dream.

[27:37]Yeah, I'm too sexy.

[27:39]I get a penalty for dressing too sexy in the lingerie league.

[27:42]Too sexy.

[27:42]Number 75.

[27:44]Hey, I used to have a dream that I couldn't reach first base.

[27:51]I'd hit a ball.

[27:52]Oh, I walked right into that one.

[27:59]But I was I'd be running and I'd be like, I was in like quicksand.

[28:03]I couldn't get right.

[28:04]Yeah, I don't need these constant reminders.

[28:07]I don't have a dream.

[28:09]I have a I have a vivid recollection of I buried the lead.

[28:14]I should have led with this.

[28:15]I also played in a state championship game.

[28:17]I played trombone trombone.

[28:21]No, no, no.

[28:21]I was on the field for four plays in a state title.

[28:25]The band is on the field and we won.

[28:27]But I can wear purple sunglasses.

[28:29]Get them.

[28:30]I wake up and I can see this kid muffed a putt right in front of me.

[28:34]And if I had picked it up, it would have been the most glorious.

[28:37]I would have been the hero.

[28:39]We won anyway.

[28:40]I didn't I didn't get it.

[28:41]But I see it every night.

[28:42]I wake up and think like, oh, man, if I had just got that.

[28:44]And that would have been really impressive, too, because you were in that long, tall band leader hat with the big thing that you're walking with down.

[28:51]Pick up the football.

[28:52]The band is on the field.

[28:53]The band is on the field.

[28:55]You had the whistle.

[28:56]Do you have any plays that you can vividly remember?

[28:59]Like at football, high school football, I have like three or four that I can vividly remember.

[29:04]See?

[29:04]Yeah, I'm the same.

[29:05]You know, I don't know.

[29:06]You have that, Rob?

[29:07]No, I forget almost everything.

[29:09]Like I've talked to guys.

[29:10]They'll be like, remember this game?

[29:11]I was like, when was that?

[29:12]We played that team.

[29:13]And I have no recollection.

[29:15]And I never got hit in the head because I never moved anywhere.

[29:17]So, like, I was always just standing there and things would be running around.

[29:19]I'm like, Jenny came to one of my games.

[29:21]And she's like, you just run and then you fall over.

[29:23]And I was like, no, it's actually much more difficult.

[29:26]I have practiced for hours of my life.

[29:28]Rob, if I were you, I would have just lied about your number and made her think you were the running back the whole time

[29:32]and just kept your helmet on so she never knew.

[29:34]You're 21.

[29:35]You're 21.

[29:35]You're that guy with the big bicep.

[29:37]I can't believe you got six touchdowns in one game.

[29:39]Al Bundy style.

[29:40]She was asking if you were number 11.

[29:43]Are you that fast guy?

[29:44]Hey, that's good.

[29:48]We don't even have to edit that one out.

[29:49]I like that.

[29:50]That number 11 comes up a lot.

[29:51]It comes up a lot.

[29:52]Will you wear number 11 tonight for me?

[29:55]Yeah, that jersey will definitely fit over me.

[29:58]I'll definitely let you get to first base in that case.

[30:01]So, you know, Rob and I have had our differences thus far in this podcast,

[30:07]but I am still curious about how it's rolling with Rob.

[30:10]Aaron's such a nice guy.

[30:11]I'm up here on the high road.

[30:12]I would never ask Rob about how it's going with him if he kept making songs about feet about me.

[30:17]Okay, I want to give everybody an inside look at how this podcast worked.

[30:20]No.

[30:21]No.

[30:21]I texted everybody on Wednesday.

[30:26]Okay, like four days ago.

[30:28]And I said, I have the best rolling going of all time.

[30:30]It's going to blow your fucking minds when you hear it.

[30:32]Okay.

[30:33]So I hope you guys are sitting down because here it comes.

[30:36]Ready?

[30:36]So we recently went out with a friend and they were commenting on my wife once got boudoir shots, right?

[30:43]Where she hired somebody to do her hair and then do her makeup.

[30:47]And then she got in lingerie and she took all these photos.

[30:50]And my kids were like, oh, my God.

[30:51]And my kid came home halfway through the photo shoot and asked her if that's what she does for a job now.

[30:54]And it was, you know, it's just a normal thing.

[30:55]It's what happens.

[30:56]The story, I could tell a 10-minute version of that story.

[30:59]I'm not going to.

[30:59]And then she texted me a picture and I thought it looked awesome.

[31:02]And I showed it to a friend and the friend goes, who took the picture?

[31:04]And then I was very concerned about it.

[31:05]Anyway, there's a whole thing.

[31:06]So this friend said to Jenny, like, oh, I could do a boudoir photo shoot for you because I've done them before.

[31:14]And it's just with her phone.

[31:16]But she's like, I do a great job.

[31:17]I can do a great job, like, you know, posing.

[31:19]Oh, God.

[31:21]And apparently she was talking to Jenny at a later dinner and said, you know, we should do a boudoir photo shoot for Rob.

[31:26]Oh, no.

[31:27]We take boudoir photos of Rob.

[31:29]So she wants to come over and have me do a boudoir photo shoot.

[31:33]So I wanted to ask you guys, is this a good pose?

[31:36]The George is the one laying on the bare skin.

[31:39]I can't even imagine what pose could I possibly do where I look good.

[31:44]Like, is there one where, like, it's just my feet close up and the rest of my body is way far away?

[31:48]Like, I don't know what, honestly, what poses would have.

[31:50]Like, I do a boudoir photo shoot.

[31:52]First of all, picture a boudoir photo shoot with me.

[31:54]Thank you.

[31:56]Have you seen George Costanza?

[31:58]Yeah, but, I mean, doesn't it have to be, like, taking out the trash or using the vacuum or something?

[32:03]Is that how it works?

[32:05]That would be it.

[32:06]If it was me, like, doing the dishes and changing the laundry, I'd be like, oh, this is the best photos of all time.

[32:11]I love it.

[32:11]Just, like, washing the counter, you know?

[32:12]Like, I mean, I feel like that's got to be it.

[32:14]But, like, is it me, like, touching my toes from behind?

[32:16]Like, I don't care what a photo shoot.

[32:18]I'll make the joke.

[32:20]I don't understand.

[32:20]You said you guys have to make the joke.

[32:21]If it's a feet thing, you're going to have to bring in Quentin Tarantino for that shot, though.

[32:25]He's, like, the ultimate king of the feet.

[32:27]Oh, yeah.

[32:27]But I think it's got to be podcast Rob.

[32:30]It's got to be just you sitting there in your little singlet.

[32:33]Okay, first, I'm going to tell you right now, me sitting naked, not a good photo.

[32:37]Okay?

[32:38]It looks like an egg when you first, like, let it break the shell and you kind of ooze it out.

[32:42]You know, that's what it looks like when I'm sitting down.

[32:44]So, I cannot be sitting.

[32:46]All right?

[32:47]Any, like, a lot of people look good sitting.

[32:48]I don't.

[32:49]So, sitting out.

[32:50]Yeah, I'm saying standing.

[32:52]I don't want a photo of me doing stuff, like.

[32:54]Yeah, standing at the sink, doing dishes.

[32:57]Okay.

[32:57]You know.

[32:58]Maybe an apron.

[33:00]Yeah, oh, yeah, apron is good.

[33:02]Maybe at a sewing machine, making a custom bench shirt for your wife, you know?

[33:08]Things of this nature.

[33:10]Okay, so being naked at a sewing machine seems like it's problematic.

[33:14]Seems like there could be some trouble.

[33:16]Oh, yeah.

[33:17]Does it have to be in the bedroom or could you be, like, waiting at the subway station?

[33:20]Oh, that's a good one.

[33:22]And then it's, like, a whole bunch of photos where it's, like, me waiting at the subway station.

[33:27]Oh, here comes a school field trip.

[33:28]Oh, here's me getting arrested and taken to jail.

[33:30]Yes, yes.

[33:31]It's a whole series of photos.

[33:33]Every inappropriate thing that could possibly happen with you sitting there in your underwear at the subway station.

[33:38]Rob eating sushi at the subway station wearing his underwear.

[33:40]Now, wait a minute.

[33:44]Me eating sushi.

[33:45]I do like that.

[33:46]I love that idea.

[33:47]I just don't know, like, I was going to Google, like, men boudoir.

[33:50]I saw a photo shoot, but then I realized I have my work computer, and I was like, I cannot explain that.

[33:54]Because then I was more worried about they'd be like, why are you looking that up on a work computer?

[33:57]I'd be like, well, I have a podcast.

[33:58]And then I'd be like, oh, no, I can't say that.

[34:00]So have you decided you're going forward with it, or are you looking for advice on whether you should do it, or what's the result of this?

[34:06]I've told you guys before off mic, my life philosophy is that I say yes to things.

[34:10]So you say yes?

[34:11]I'm going to make this happen.

[34:13]Well, okay, to be fair, she talked to my wife about it and didn't actually ask me.

[34:16]So hold on.

[34:16]Jenny could be just saying this to me as, like, a prank.

[34:19]So she could be like, oh, the.

[34:20]A boudoir photo shoot's happening.

[34:21]She's coming over.

[34:22]Is this.

[34:22]And then I'm, like, totally naked on the couch.

[34:24]And this friend goes over and goes, what the hell are you doing?

[34:25]We're coming over for drinks.

[34:26]And I'm like, oh, no.

[34:27]But so is this a couple photo shoot with you and Jenny, or is it just you?

[34:31]Oh, God, I didn't even think of that.

[34:34]Jenny, too.

[34:36]It was just me.

[34:37]Oh, I'm a terrible person.

[34:39]This might be how selfish you are, Rob, where you literally thought this was just going to be you, like, you know, cutting cherry tomatoes the way Aaron showed you in between the cameras.

[34:50]Oh, my God.

[34:50]And Jenny's going to walk in here and be like, what the shit?

[34:53]I thought this was about me.

[34:55]And it turns out it's about both of you.

[34:57]So just a warning there.

[34:58]Rob's been in makeup all day trying to get his hair right.

[35:00]And it turns out it's a couple's boudoir shoot.

[35:02]Oh, my God.

[35:03]This is incredible.

[35:04]It would just be me, like, way in the background of a photo.

[35:07]Like, Jenny's way in the foreground.

[35:08]I'm way, way in the background.

[35:09]I don't know.

[35:10]Because I was thinking, you know, I was thinking, like, the only part of my body that looks good is my legs.

[35:14]But how can I take a boudoir photo shoot of just my legs?

[35:17]Like, it just seems like it's going to be trouble.

[35:19]Because if you move on.

[35:20]If you move on high up enough of the legs, there's more trouble than you want to deal with.

[35:23]Yeah, for me, it's just anything above the knees is trouble.

[35:26]I'm a little concerned about this person, too, that's like, I can just do it on my iPhone.

[35:30]You know, like, that's professional enough.

[35:31]Yeah, I don't think that's the way to go.

[35:33]We've got a work-winning podcast.

[35:35]However, if this happens, we clearly have our Beck Did It Better Instagram post for this episode.

[35:42]So it's great promotional material.

[35:44]Just like Rob's.

[35:46]Boudoir photos, Beck Did It Better.

[35:48]You know, Rob's thighs with, like.

[35:50]An Aretha album cover and, you know, tastefully placed.

[35:54]That's not going to work.

[35:55]Yeah.

[35:55]What is that?

[35:56]A dead octopus laying on some old.

[35:58]Some old bleached out driftwood.

[36:02]What is that?

[36:02]Oh, no.

[36:03]The only thing that's going to be tasteful about Rob's boudoir photo is when he's eating his poke bowl while they're taking the pictures.

[36:10]There's going to be nothing else tasteful about it at all.

[36:13]Just rice all in the chest hair.

[36:15]All of it.

[36:15]Yeah, I'll tell you.

[36:16]There's a lot of angles you could take pictures of me from where woodlet just look like a poke bowl.

[36:20]All right.

[36:21]So that is it for rolling going.

[36:24]And I agree.

[36:24]That was the best segment ever.

[36:25]You guys did not want to talk about my boudoir photo shoot as much as I wanted to.

[36:28]All right.

[36:29]So for those of you that actually tuned in to hear us talk about Aretha Franklin, let's start talking a little bit about Aretha's album.

[36:36]And I'm going to tell you right now, I have trouble with this album title.

[36:39]I had trouble in the intro and I have trouble all the time.

[36:41]It is I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You.

[36:43]And this album came out in 68.

[36:47]But all I'm going to say for the history, there's so much you can look at.

[36:50]You can learn about with Aretha Franklin.

[36:51]I just want to put in to the context of these three years, 1966 to 1968.

[36:57]1966, Aretha has already released 10 albums and she has dropped Columbia as a record contract.

[37:04]She signed with Atlantic.

[37:05]This is the first album she did with Atlantic.

[37:08]And the first song she recorded, and Aaron, don't laugh at this.

[37:12]It was the titular track of this album.

[37:14]And it peaked at number nine.

[37:16]You got to mature.

[37:17]You sicko, Aaron.

[37:18]So listen.

[37:20]Listen to this.

[37:20]Listen to this.

[37:21]Is that a real word?

[37:22]1966.

[37:23]She records this, the titular track to this album.

[37:26]The only one that was recorded by Muscle Shoals, too.

[37:29]Yes.

[37:30]April of 66, she records Respect.

[37:34]Hits number one on the chart.

[37:35]March 10th of 67, she releases this album.

[37:39]Okay.

[37:40]Two more of these singles go into the top 10 in 67.

[37:44]On different albums.

[37:46]You Make Me Feel Like a Natural Woman, Baby I Love You, both top 10 singles.

[37:50]In 1968, she released the album Lady's Soul and Aretha Now.

[37:53]It's got Chain of Fools, Ain't No Way, Think, and Say a Little Prayer.

[37:57]68, she won two Grammys.

[37:59]She started her first national tour in May of 68.

[38:02]She made the cover of Time Magazine in June of 1968.

[38:06]And she released, listen to this.

[38:08]From 67 to 68, take it, she released five separate albums.

[38:14]And some of her biggest albums of the whole career.

[38:17]I mean, that is literally where we're finding Aretha Franklin.

[38:20]Aretha Franklin right now is that this is.

[38:21]In five years, five albums in two years, is it, Rob?

[38:24]Or what is it?

[38:25]Yes, five.

[38:25]Yeah, I'm sorry.

[38:25]Five albums in two years.

[38:27]So we're really seeing Aretha Franklin like absolute juggernaut at the time.

[38:31]And I think, Aaron, can you explain to me why is she able to put out so many albums so quickly

[38:35]when we have people now like, you know, like Adele, for example.

[38:39]She's released three albums in the last, I looked it up.

[38:43]I think it was like three albums in like 12 years.

[38:45]Why can Aretha Franklin release five in two?

[38:50]Grubbin Managers?

[38:51]That's part of it.

[38:52]Yeah, some of it might have been label shenanigans too.

[38:55]Like when she signed with Atlantic, I think they were really ready to get her out there.

[38:59]And she had had some less successful years at Columbia, right?

[39:03]And so, you know, Atlantic was like, this is it.

[39:07]You know, Jerry Wexler was going to, you know, make money off this person.

[39:09]And I think also, I mean, these songs are two and a half minutes long.

[39:13]There were plenty of people, you know, these studios and labels had entire rosters of songwriters.

[39:20]And, you know, session musicians lined up to be able to do this stuff.

[39:23]And I think, you know, you release an album, you tour.

[39:26]And Aretha was, you know, being on the road was not new to Aretha.

[39:30]She'd been doing that for her whole life on the gospel circuit.

[39:32]So it was nothing for her to just record and sing all night, I don't think.

[39:36]And so I think it was a confluence of where the music industry was and her stamina as an artist.

[39:43]And not to answer my own question, but I also think too, she's not writing, you know, these songs.

[39:49]They're all...

[39:50]They're not standards, but they're definitely hits by other people.

[39:52]Yeah, most of them she didn't write, yeah.

[39:54]At least on this album.

[39:55]And yeah, I don't know.

[39:56]I think on...

[39:57]I'm trying to think of other albums of hers.

[39:58]She maybe wrote a couple songs on each of them.

[40:00]And then a lot of them were stuff that, yeah, were by other artists.

[40:04]What do you guys think of that?

[40:06]When you hear an album and a lot of the albums are covers, what do you think of that?

[40:09]Does that impact where you think it should be on the scale of the rankings?

[40:13]I got to admit, it does for me.

[40:16]I mean, you know, obviously this is, I think, by far the best voice we've...

[40:20]I've heard and probably will hear for a long time on this list.

[40:23]And it did...

[40:24]I was kind of like, oh, you know, she's just kind of taking other songs, but...

[40:29]But when you're the number one singer of all time per Rolling Stone, you're allowed to do that, right?

[40:33]Right.

[40:34]I mean, Aretha's in a different class to me.

[40:36]So, yeah, for someone else, I might be like, well, whatever.

[40:39]But for her, you want to hear every...

[40:42]For me, I want to hear every note that comes out of her mouth.

[40:43]So, yeah.

[40:44]I do think most people only know one or two songs off this album, though.

[40:48]But I guess that's true of some of the others.

[40:50]Is this the first one where they haven't written their own music on the majority of the album?

[40:55]The first record that we've heard so far?

[40:57]I think so, right?

[40:59]Like, this is kind of the first one where she's the true juggernaut.

[41:02]Where she's able to pull that off.

[41:04]Michael Jackson didn't write everything on that one.

[41:08]Yeah, that's true.

[41:09]I definitely think there's some similarities between the two.

[41:11]Should we get into the album, boys?

[41:13]Let's get into it.

[41:13]All right.

[41:15]So, first song.

[41:20]Respect.

[41:20]He wants those PICs of FWTs.

[41:24]So, I think Rolling Stone is the number five song of all time.

[41:30]And it's hard to argue with it, right?

[41:32]I wouldn't be surprised if it's that low.

[41:34]That Rolling Bone.

[41:37]This one?

[41:38]Yes.

[41:39]This won the Grammy for the best R&B song of the year and the best R&B solo female performance.

[41:48]So, Respect, of course, was a...

[41:50]It was originally an Otis Redding song.

[41:52]Yeah, he wrote it.

[41:53]And it's really interesting when you listen to that song.

[41:56]It's a totally different...

[41:57]There's some changes in the lyrics where it has a totally different meaning.

[41:59]It's very good.

[42:00]But I will say, Aretha did add the R-E-S-P-E-C-T, which I can never...

[42:05]I never know what it means.

[42:06]I heard that P-E-C-T, find out P-E-C-T to me.

[42:10]Okay, but what's the next part?

[42:11]Because I never know what it is.

[42:12]Suck it to me, suck it to me, suck it to me.

[42:14]No, no, no.

[42:14]I know that part.

[42:16]No, that's the next part.

[42:16]Suck it to me, suck it to me.

[42:17]Okay.

[42:18]You're talking about the...

[42:20]You're talking about the take out the T-C-P?

[42:22]T-C-B, right?

[42:24]Well, so I read an article by Rob Sheffield from Rolling Stone on this

[42:28]because it sounds like T-C-B, taking care of business, right?

[42:31]So it sounds like she says, take care of T-C-B, taking care of business.

[42:34]But Rob Sheffield's contention is that she says, take out the T-C-P.

[42:38]So if you take the letters T-C-P out of respect, you end up with...

[42:43]That's what I thought it was.

[42:43]You end up with R-E-E-S, and her nickname is R-E-E.

[42:47]And so...

[42:49]Oh.

[42:50]She's saying this song is mine now.

[42:51]This song is R-E-E-S because that's all that's left if you take out the T-C-P.

[42:55]I don't know if that's true or not.

[42:56]That's what Sheffield says.

[42:57]Otis Redden did say...

[42:59]That sounds like the Beatles nerds who read into every single thing the Beatles nerds have ever said, right?

[43:04]But I mean...

[43:05]That's like an extreme stretch.

[43:07]Yeah, I don't know if I believe that.

[43:08]But when Otis heard it, he did say, I lost this song.

[43:11]This song's not mine anymore.

[43:12]So Otis even recognized that this was hers now.

[43:15]And I mean, Otis is one of my favorites of all time.

[43:18]I mean, this is a bad...

[43:20]It's a badass song here, though, too.

[43:21]Yeah, it is.

[43:22]But you do realize how important that R-E-S-P-E-C-T kind of break is in the middle of it?

[43:28]Right.

[43:29]Because it just doesn't have the same catch.

[43:31]But yeah, but they're not even on the same plane, are they?

[43:33]No, I don't think Otis or Aretha took it for herself.

[43:36]No, and in fact, when you listen to that Otis Redden song, you think it's so good because you're thinking of the Aretha Franklin version of it, I think.

[43:41]But Rob, I'm really glad that you played this from minute zero because I thought a lot as I was listening to this.

[43:50]This week that like we've talked a lot about opening tracks on albums, track one, side one.

[43:54]But I felt like this is one of the all time great needle drops.

[44:00]One of the top, you know, first 10 to 15 seconds of an album where, you know, if you imagine.

[44:06]So I thought of some others.

[44:08]I thought of some others that might be on this level, maybe not quite, but on this level.

[44:11]So I made a list.

[44:12]It's time.

[44:14]Five, four, three, two, one.

[44:18]Four.

[44:19]Another.

[44:20]Better.

[44:20]Countdown.

[44:22]So I don't own.

[44:24]I've never loved a man the way I loved you on vinyl.

[44:26]But I every time I played it, I imagined that moment of when you you set up your your your listening station, you set up your drinks and your snacks and you're going to start an album and you drop.

[44:38]Wait a minute.

[44:39]Wait a minute.

[44:40]I can have snacks while I'm listening to my record.

[44:42]Listening station.

[44:44]My station.

[44:45]That's on the radio.

[44:46]You're going to sit in your living room and you're going to listen to a record.

[44:48]You like.

[44:49]You're going to drop the needle.

[44:50]But you know that you absolutely cannot miss one second of the first track on this album.

[44:55]So you have to drop the needle as far away from the first groove as you can and then run back.

[45:01]And then you scratch it over until it starts the music playing.

[45:03]You push it over and it scratches over until it starts playing.

[45:06]Right.

[45:07]And you run back to your spot.

[45:07]And you type in Spotify.com on your phone.

[45:09]And you sit down because you don't want to miss one second of the first track.

[45:13]This is what I'm talking about.

[45:14]These are my favorite.

[45:14]My favorite peanuts are already gone by this point.

[45:16]First needle drops of all time.

[45:18]So the.

[45:19]First one I'm thinking of is UGK return off the album.

[45:23]Super tight.

[45:24]It all started with a.

[45:27]Come on.

[45:31]You hear those that snare and then those organs come in and Pepsi comes in.

[45:36]That's the first track.

[45:37]There's Matt in the back.

[45:38]You know what, Matt?

[45:39]You hear those whistles back there?

[45:41]Matt is just drinking beer right now.

[45:47]That's what happens, man.

[45:49]You hear this track and you go crazy.

[45:51]How the fuck is that?

[45:55]The first song on your list.

[45:56]What the fuck is going on?

[46:00]Oh, don't worry.

[46:02]That was a song.

[46:02]Okay, Russ, real quick.

[46:03]Tell me who sang that song.

[46:04]Slobber dog.

[46:07]No, that was UGK.

[46:10]The famous band.

[46:11]Underground Kings, Pimsy and Bunzee.

[46:14]What's next on the list?

[46:16]Next on the list.

[46:17]Best needle drop.

[46:18]These are names.

[46:19]You're going to recognize this is off.

[46:20]This is the first track off of Kanye.

[46:22]Aaron, be careful what you can promise here.

[46:24]Be careful what you're about to go into.

[46:26]Yeah.

[46:26]No kidding.

[46:27]This is the first track off of Kanye and Jay-Z's Watch the Throne.

[46:31]This is No Church in the Wild featuring Frank Ocean.

[46:33]That bass hits.

[46:42]I do like this.

[46:42]And you got a few seconds.

[46:44]And pretty soon Frank Ocean's coming in.

[46:49]I like it.

[46:50]You could have missed this part.

[46:52]You can't miss this part.

[46:53]No, you can't miss this.

[46:54]You got to be ready.

[46:54]You dummy.

[46:55]You got to be ready.

[46:55]Just played 10 times in a row, but if you miss it, oh my God.

[46:58]Rob's got three bags of flavored peanuts down by this point.

[47:02]You got me sitting down eating your peanuts.

[47:04]Every time you say flavored peanuts, it gives me ideas for my boudoir photo shoot.

[47:08]I've spent the last five minutes thinking about what I'm going to put in my snack station

[47:13]next to my record player.

[47:14]I don't know.

[47:18]Put in record flavored, put in record shaped candies, and then just pray you don't make

[47:22]a mistake.

[47:22]That's pretty good.

[47:25]That's pretty good.

[47:26]That's pretty good.

[47:27]What's next on the list?

[47:28]So it's not just, it's not just about, it's not just about doing something hard.

[47:33]It's not just about the big snares and the organs.

[47:35]Sometimes you can do something, you can do something chill and loving, but still that

[47:40]first note's got to be perfect.

[47:41]And this is Al Green.

[47:42]I'm still in love with you.

[47:44]I agree with this.

[47:47]This is a banger.

[47:48]Right from the jump.

[47:50]I love this whole album.

[47:50]You can't miss a moment of that.

[47:52]Listen to this voice come in the reverend.

[47:56]And that first, everything comes together, that first note, you can't miss it.

[48:05]You got to be back in your seat, ready for your snacks.

[48:08]It's pretty awesome, but it does not have the howl from Welcome to the Jungle, does it?

[48:12]It does not have the howl.

[48:13]Oh my God.

[48:14]It does not.

[48:14]Oh, you might have.

[48:15]Oh my God.

[48:15]Is the one still going?

[48:17]Russ just busted the list right in the middle of it.

[48:19]Oh, that is so sorry.

[48:21]That was bad.

[48:22]Oh my God.

[48:22]Bad horror about my part.

[48:23]The list is still going.

[48:25]As a list guy, I should have known better.

[48:26]Let me know when the list is over so I can give you about 15 better lists.

[48:30]No, no, no.

[48:30]What's next?

[48:31]What's number two?

[48:32]All right, this one is the Ravenettes, Remember.

[48:35]The Ravenettes?

[48:39]What?

[48:40]This was one of my favorite bands in the early 2000s.

[48:42]They're Danish.

[48:43]And they were an idiot.

[48:44]How do you not know the Ravenettes?

[48:45]Oh.

[48:46]I just need to hear that bell and then they jump straight in.

[48:49]It's the great.

[48:50]Aaron, I love you so goddamn much.

[48:56]This is so good.

[48:57]The Ravenettes.

[48:58]This is so much content.

[48:59]This is going to get us so many calls.

[49:00]I cannot wait.

[49:01]This is going to be so good for the podcast.

[49:02]So this, I will be honest.

[49:03]Probably from the Ravenettes who I think pumped my gas the other day in New Jersey.

[49:06]The Ravenettes.

[49:07]I think that song is, I think that album is called Songs in the Key of B-Flat or Love in

[49:11]the Key of B-Flat, but the song is called Remember.

[49:13]This next one is the one that I thought was going to be the best.

[49:15]You don't have to tell everyone.

[49:16]You don't have to tell everyone.

[49:16]You don't have to tell everyone.

[49:16]Tell our listeners what song that was.

[49:17]Yeah.

[49:17]I'm pretty sure it was C-sharp, Aaron, if you could just maybe go back and do your research.

[49:23]I think you got your octave or whatever that's called off a little bit.

[49:26]And remember, this is not best overall track one side one.

[49:31]This is the first 15 seconds.

[49:33]This is, you can't miss any of it.

[49:34]I believe we call it the needle drop.

[49:36]The first needle drop.

[49:37]The needle drop.

[49:38]When you texted me earlier asking me for advice, I said needle drop.

[49:41]This next one is the one that inspired me to think about it because it's the one I think

[49:45]about every time.

[49:46]It is the first track off of John Coltrane's Giant Steps.

[49:50]How do they do that?

[49:54]How do they fucking do that?

[49:55]How many takes did it take to get the bass and Coltrane and the drums drop?

[50:01]Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[50:02]Aaron, I try to like learn from you, but we got to rewind this.

[50:05]What am I listening for here at the beginning?

[50:07]What makes this so amazing?

[50:08]I don't get it.

[50:09]You're listening to, like they just start from a dead stop and they just go and everybody

[50:13]hits it at the same time.

[50:16]One more time, Rob.

[50:17]I'm moved.

[50:19]Yeah, I love that.

[50:21]That's very good.

[50:21]No, Rob, go back and play the number one again.

[50:24]I need to hear it again.

[50:25]All right.

[50:26]Here we go.

[50:28]It's like it starts in the middle of a song.

[50:33]What if they just started it and then like cut, cut, like they edited it like Rob's style?

[50:38]I mean, they might have.

[50:38]I don't know.

[50:39]I've not read about the recording of the album.

[50:40]Maybe they did.

[50:42]But this is the one that for me.

[50:44]Aaron, are you surprised when you turn on your TV?

[50:46]And it turns on like, does that ever shock you?

[50:48]You push the power button and the thing just turns on.

[50:50]You're like, oh, I mean, yes, I can't believe they're in the middle of this married with

[50:54]children episode.

[50:55]And he's already scored four touchdowns in this game.

[50:57]This is amazing.

[50:58]I want to point out, too, that Aaron sent me a clip, right?

[51:03]Because they send me like YouTube videos that I put into these MP3s or whatever.

[51:07]He sent me a clip.

[51:09]This is getting better and better.

[51:10]He sent me a clip that is.

[51:15]37 minutes long.

[51:16]He sent me a 37 minute long clip.

[51:19]It took about five minutes for me to download it.

[51:22]I think it took like three gigs on my computer to then put it on for.

[51:25]And let's play again.

[51:27]What exactly part of the 37 minutes he likes?

[51:29]It's so good.

[51:31]How do they do that?

[51:32]They play notes at the same time.

[51:34]What the hell?

[51:34]This is why Aaron's blown away by music.

[51:36]They got a guy saying one, two, three, go.

[51:38]You guys can feel free to pick it apart now.

[51:43]But those are the ones that for me, I can't miss.

[51:45]I can't miss.

[51:45]I can't miss.

[51:45]I can't miss a moment at the start.

[51:47]I mean, I would, I would have scratched.

[51:49]I would have scratched up all those records to get to that, that, that needle point.

[51:52]Aaron, so I'm with you.

[51:53]I like it.

[51:54]So it's a lucky I've got, they sent me those two extra needles in my record player.

[51:59]I don't know if I'll ever be able to figure out how to change it, but I'm ready.

[52:02]I'm ready to drop the needle on all that.

[52:04]I don't know if you noticed Aaron, but I'm pretty sure we did pick apart the list right

[52:07]in the middle of it while you were talking.

[52:08]So all the research and work you put into that will not be heard because we were talking

[52:12]over it once again for Aaron's smart bit.

[52:15]In My Own Tears.

[52:17]I was trying to think of why I enjoyed this song so much.

[52:22]If you don't think that you'll be home soon.

[52:25]Ooh, listen to that.

[52:26]Baby, I'm gonna try.

[52:29]How can you not do it?

[52:31]Oh yeah.

[52:32]And I realized that this is a 1968 release.

[52:36]This is from a single by Ray Charles that we had heard earlier on the old list.

[52:43]Just listening through now.

[52:44]I, I do not.

[52:45]I don't care for Ray Charles anymore because his album on the last list was about 10 hours

[52:49]long.

[52:50]So I've heard more Ray Charles than most people should be forced to, but he did have a version

[52:54]of Drown in My Own Tears that he kind of was the one that really made it famous.

[52:58]And I feel so bad, but I do hate Ray Charles very much right now.

[53:04]I can't stand this, but this is the song where I will like just sing this randomly.

[53:08]I guess I'll drown.

[53:10]Oh, yes.

[53:13]I think the amazing thing is.

[53:15]This is Ray Charles is number two on the greatest singers of all time per Rolling Stone.

[53:19]So you've got the number one and number two artist or number two, one and two singers of

[53:23]all time singing that song.

[53:24]That's pretty cool.

[53:25]I wonder if they heard my opening bit to the show.

[53:27]I wonder if I'm going to be get bumped up on that list.

[53:29]I think they changed the list.

[53:30]I don't care if it's to pump our podcast or not.

[53:33]I'm going to lose my shit.

[53:34]Now I will say, okay, it definitely wasn't in the Wikipedia other recording section,

[53:41]but I did find somebody and you might've heard of this guy.

[53:45]Named Jeff Beck also did a version of drown in my own tears.

[53:49]Now I am going to say this is the kind of music I hate more than any other kind of music where

[53:57]it's just guitar singing the melody of the song.

[53:59]I cannot stand it, though.

[54:01]Don't you think?

[54:02]Yes, no, he is a very, very, very talented guitar player, but I don't like it when he does it.

[54:09]I don't like it when Jimi Hendrix does it.

[54:11]I hate it.

[54:12]I hate these songs where it's just the guitar singing the melody.

[54:15]But I'm going to ask you this for a version of drown in my own tears where nobody's singing.

[54:21]We did it better.

[54:23]Thank you, Ross.

[54:25]I appreciate it.

[54:26]All right.

[54:27]The titular track.

[54:30]I never loved a man the way I love you.

[54:33]I don't like what Rob takes his shirt off when he says that every time.

[54:36]Disturbing.

[54:39]This hits number one on the R&B charts.

[54:43]Number nine on the top hundred.

[54:45]This was this one song that was mostly recorded at Muscle Shoals.

[54:50]When you guys talk about Muscle Shoals, what does that mean?

[54:54]What are you guys talking about when you always bring that up?

[54:56]Check this out, Russell.

[54:57]Matt, what does that mean?

[54:58]It's a Muscle Shoals is a location in Alabama.

[55:04]OK, and it's think of the Muscle Shoal sound very much like the wrecking crew out on the West Coast.

[55:12]It's just a group of musicians.

[55:15]It's just a group of musicians that sat where they were session musicians that sat in with all of these bands.

[55:20]It was just a whole and we'll get to it at some point.

[55:23]But it, you know, the Rolling Stones came in there.

[55:26]A lot of the Southern rock, you know, like the Credence Clearwater Revival and some of those.

[55:31]Doesn't Leonard Skinner like Sweet Home Alabama bring it up or something?

[55:34]Yeah, you know, you know, and it was a great documentary about it.

[55:39]There was one studio.

[55:41]It split into two.

[55:42]Then there was two and they were able to just both of them.

[55:45]They were successful for many, many, many years.

[55:48]But again, it's like this group of just phenomenal session musicians that would go from playing country playing R&B to playing Southern rock.

[55:57]And they just were phenomenal and have all their fingers on a whole bunch of different groups.

[56:03]And Muscle Shoals was known kind of like the wrecking crew.

[56:06]Go ahead.

[56:07]So this was the this was the first song she recorded for this album.

[56:10]And it was the first song she recorded for Atlantic Records.

[56:14]Is it right?

[56:15]Atlantic or Columbia?

[56:16]I can't remember.

[56:16]It's for Atlantic.

[56:17]And basically, she recalls they just told her to sit at the piano and have her sing.

[56:22]And the guy who produced it, the is it Wexler?

[56:26]Is that his name?

[56:27]Yeah, Jerry Wexler.

[56:27]He said that as soon as they heard that first note, they were like, we're going to make a bazillion dollars on this person.

[56:33]Like, this is absolutely incredible.

[56:34]They called it the magic chord.

[56:35]Yeah.

[56:35]The other guys in the session say Aretha sat down and played that magic chord.

[56:38]And then it went from there.

[56:40]Let's listen to what that first.

[56:42]Every time I go plug in my leaf blower outside with that.

[56:45]Extension cord, like my neighbors come out like that's the magic chord out there.

[56:49]Look at him blow those leaves.

[56:52]It's amazing.

[56:52]That's a magic chord.

[56:54]Meanwhile, they've got these, you know, they don't even have to plug their things in.

[56:57]They're way ahead of me.

[56:58]Yeah.

[56:59]Meanwhile, Russ is blowing all the leaves up to the top of his house and they're getting in his gutters.

[57:02]He's like, when will Matt come over and clean these?

[57:04]The ironic thing to me about this song is that I don't think they.

[57:08]So the band is great.

[57:09]Obviously, it's a super it's it's a I think it's one of my top five favorite songs of all time now.

[57:15]And I didn't even know it that well before we started this this journey.

[57:18]But I don't think they knew how to record Aretha's voice.

[57:20]It's the it's to me.

[57:21]It's the least good representation of what she can do vocally.

[57:26]And I think either they didn't have the right mic or they they didn't know exactly how to deal with it because she kind of fuzzes out at the top of the register.

[57:32]And it's not you don't hear that.

[57:33]All right.

[57:34]Go ahead.

[57:34]Soul serenade.

[57:38]Written by King Curtis.

[57:43]We've heard King Curtis on here before, didn't we?

[57:45]We covered King Curtis on the best songs about Memphis.

[57:47]And I know he's old.

[57:48]Yeah.

[57:49]Memphis old stew.

[57:50]So is this written by him or performed by him and then covered?

[57:53]Or do you guys know?

[57:54]Did she cover it or did he just write it for her?

[57:56]I don't know.

[57:58]I know she recorded some of this album at his studio or at like they sort of did a thing where it was like undercover of night.

[58:06]We're going to bring the Muscle Shoals guys up to do King Curtis sessions, but then we're going to have Aretha record.

[58:11]I know they definitely played together because he played on her live at Fillmore album, too.

[58:15]So I don't know.

[58:16]God, you know, you do kind of lose track.

[58:19]Like I listen to this album over and over and you just forget what a great singer she is.

[58:23]And then sometimes when you really focus on you, like it's unbelievable.

[58:26]Can I ask you a question?

[58:27]Yeah.

[58:28]What makes somebody what makes somebody?

[58:30]Why is she such a good singer?

[58:31]And there's so many other people who are like good singers, but they're not that good.

[58:36]Like, what is it?

[58:37]Is it that she grew up with music, you know, with her dad and being in the church?

[58:42]Is it that she can hear perfect pitch?

[58:44]Is it her?

[58:45]Is it like genetic, like her vocal cords?

[58:47]Like, could I become this good of a singer if I would have been raised the way she was?

[58:50]Or is it just like a genetic freak thing?

[58:53]It's both.

[58:54]I mean, you have.

[58:55]So I when I think about her, I actually think about I think about LeBron James, actually, the same same time when I think about her, because I think they're both equally gifted genetically.

[59:06]You couldn't be Aretha without being born with that voice.

[59:09]When you when you hear her saying nothing, no one does it as easily as she does.

[59:15]And it's the same as watching LeBron play basketball, but they both worked hard at their craft.

[59:21]And Aretha was doing it from a young age.

[59:23]She was, you know, the stories about Mahalia Jackson was in her house as a child.

[59:29]She knew Sam Cooke when she was, I don't know, 10 or 12.

[59:32]So she was around all these musicians.

[59:34]And then the way that the church was was educating musicians at that time and how she grew up around it.

[59:41]She definitely learned from her environment.

[59:45]And was raised in it and steeped in it.

[59:47]But so I think some of the musicianship she learned, but you couldn't do it without being born with that voice.

[59:52]This is a voice.

[59:53]I mean, that's the thing, right?

[59:54]She has such a good voice that she recorded 10 albums before this.

[59:58]None of them were hits.

[59:59]And they still let her just record as many albums as she wanted.

[60:01]Like, there's not a lot of people.

[60:02]LeBron James wasn't going 10 seasons in the NBA without winning.

[60:06]Right.

[60:07]She had a lot of chances at Columbia that didn't sell.

[60:09]And people were still willing to take a chance because this voice is it's a once in a generation.

[60:15]When you see videos of her singing later in life and you just think, like, this is what she was doing in her 70s.

[60:20]She was just she was born to do it.

[60:22]But she also worked at it and learned at a young age, you know, how to be a musician.

[60:27]Yeah.

[60:28]And plus, Aretha Franklin also took a human growth hormone and the calls never went away.

[60:33]So that's the way that goes.

[60:34]All right.

[60:35]Lawsuits incoming for Rob.

[60:37]Oh, yeah.

[60:37]But they don't know my last name.

[60:39]Definitely did not have any hair transplants or anything.

[60:42]No, his hairline just naturally went quick forward.

[60:45]Yeah.

[60:45]Aaron researching LeBron James hair fix.

[60:48]Oh, question mark.

[60:49]I do it.

[60:51]If I could.

[60:51]NBA talks always works great on this podcast.

[60:54]Don't let me lose this dream.

[60:56]One of the one of the interesting things that I've always enjoyed about Aretha.

[61:01]So, like, I've heard respect.

[61:03]You know, I know some of these songs, but I don't know most of these songs on the album.

[61:06]Matt, Rob, maybe Aaron, maybe, you know, these songs.

[61:08]But I didn't know most of these songs of this album before I listened to it.

[61:11]Do you guys?

[61:12]No, no, no.

[61:14]I was surprised.

[61:14]I.

[61:15]I had never heard of this album.

[61:16]The interesting thing for me has been I always remember Aretha growing up from different performances that were not necessarily her albums.

[61:23]But one thing I just I kind of want to just jump through a few of those that I've always enjoyed.

[61:28]And I bet our listeners might enjoy.

[61:29]But the first one, Aaron, you sent this one over the other day.

[61:32]And, you know, I love watching documentaries about performances and musicians, especially since we got into this.

[61:38]And so Aaron sent over the this documentary about Amazing Grace, the live album that she she produced.

[61:45]It's essentially this gospel album with this church choir out in Los Angeles.

[61:50]I think it was about 1972 or something in there.

[61:53]But it's a great documentary.

[61:54]I know you guys all checked it out.

[61:56]But, Rob, maybe you can play the opening track on that.

[61:59]But it's fantastic.

[62:00]Yep.

[62:02]Off the album, Amazing Grace.

[62:03]The documentary is Amazing Grace.

[62:04]And, yeah, this one, when you get to watch her now, you can see how easy it is for her.

[62:15]And she just feels it all.

[62:16]I mean, that's where it really, to me, blows my mind.

[62:20]You're right.

[62:20]She's just literally standing up there at the whatever you call the pulpit or whatever, just singing easily.

[62:26]It's so free for her.

[62:28]Can you imagine?

[62:29]All I could think of when I was watching that is, can you imagine being in that choir and you have to sing next to Aretha Franklin?

[62:35]I mean, you just feel like garbage.

[62:37]And I don't know if you noticed, Aaron, in the beginning of that movie, the whole background choir is singing sitting down.

[62:42]Yeah.

[62:43]I was like, God, that's got to be so hard.

[62:45]You know, I was in a, I don't want to brag, but I was in the Rochester Boy Choir for seven years.

[62:48]They were naked like you were your boudoir photos, Rob.

[62:51]Like, they were allowed to wear, like, clothes.

[62:53]And I believe they allowed them to wear robes, too, to cover up their shame.

[62:56]So it wasn't like the way you sit down.

[62:59]There were no broken eggs involved.

[63:01]They were okay.

[63:02]The old dad sit where you're wearing a robe and your legs are spread wide open to have a coffee in the morning.

[63:07]That's my boudoir photo shoot right there.

[63:08]Let me just finish real quick.

[63:10]I just want to say, like, it's incredibly hard to sing sitting down, I think.

[63:14]Like, I don't know how.

[63:15]I don't know how you can crank up what they need to crank up.

[63:17]Am I wrong, Aaron?

[63:17]Like, you can just give me a yes or a no.

[63:19]Like, is that, am I crazy?

[63:20]No, I don't think.

[63:21]No, I said the same thing because they're making so much sound and it doesn't look like they're working that hard.

[63:26]I mean, I just think that that's a whole different world where, I mean, D'Angelo talks about it, too.

[63:32]And I think we're going to get to D'Angelo soon about just the way.

[63:34]My abs.

[63:35]My abs.

[63:36]The church.

[63:37]That's my problem.

[63:38]The church and church musicians.

[63:39]Check out this ab roller.

[63:40]It's brand new.

[63:41]I got it from Amazon.

[63:42]They have to do it every week.

[63:44]And you have to.

[63:44]You have to be able to produce sound.

[63:46]You have to be able to be on point every week.

[63:48]I get tired just sitting here talking to you guys.

[63:51]I don't know.

[63:51]I don't think I could sing.

[63:52]Matt, did you watch the documentary at all?

[63:54]I did.

[63:55]And I absolutely, you know, to your guy's point, stop me if I'm getting a little too cynical here.

[64:02]But, you know, listening to Aretha, phenomenal.

[64:05]Listening to the backup choir, phenomenal.

[64:08]Listening to the musicians, great.

[64:09]But they had that, the reverend, I think his name was James Cleveland.

[64:14]I got him as kind of like the master of ceremonies.

[64:18]But he was trying to stick his nose into every single scene of every single part of that,

[64:25]which just drove me absolutely bonkers.

[64:27]And it's like he would call up Aretha, you know, and she'd walk up to the front.

[64:31]First of all, the place wasn't sold out.

[64:33]There were seats in the back that were open.

[64:35]Like, how in the world do you not have that spectacle sold out?

[64:40]Two, you know, they kept having all these technical problems and everything.

[64:44]I don't know.

[64:44]But, like, that dude just kept trying to stick his nose into every single part of this.

[64:50]And, like, it was like he was trying to take credit.

[64:51]And then he'd be singing.

[64:53]And then he'd try to sing over a little bit.

[64:54]He was playing the piano.

[64:55]And it was like, it just, it was driving me bonkers.

[64:57]It was like the whole thing is about Aretha Franklin, right?

[65:00]Well, there was three or four people that kept trying, I mean, her dad was there.

[65:06]Did you guys see when her dad was talking?

[65:07]Like, his dad walks right by her.

[65:09]Doesn't, like, give her a hug or anything.

[65:11]I mean, you know, talk, oh, Aretha from her, you know.

[65:14]I'm age three.

[65:15]She was great.

[65:16]And, you know, but, like, then he just walks right by her again.

[65:19]Like, doesn't even acknowledge that she's there.

[65:21]And I don't know.

[65:22]Like, it was great to see that.

[65:25]But, like, I could not believe, to me, the gall of the people.

[65:29]It just looked like a big money grab for some of those people.

[65:32]Again, and I think it drove me bonkers to see kind of like it was just, it seemed like blatant disrespect.

[65:38]Or it was like, oh, here's our little trophy.

[65:41]She's going to sing great.

[65:42]She's part of the show.

[65:43]And so, I don't know.

[65:44]Can you imagine?

[65:44]It's like being Aretha and you're just dealing with that shit all the time.

[65:47]And guys trying to hop on board.

[65:48]And you're just so much more talented than anyone else in that room.

[65:51]Right.

[65:51]Right.

[65:52]I mean, Mick Jagger was there.

[65:53]Mick Jagger came to watch that.

[65:55]You know, he was in the front row of the crowd.

[65:57]And there was people that were getting up dancing and fainting and, you know, who were not members.

[66:05]You know, the crowd.

[66:06]Great.

[66:06]That's what they're supposed to do.

[66:08]And that's what I love about the gospel music.

[66:09]It moves you.

[66:10]It's great.

[66:11]But, like, I could not.

[66:12]It was hard for me to watch because it just.

[66:14]It seemed like everybody was trying to glob on to Aretha and what she had going on.

[66:20]And it drove me bonkers.

[66:21]All right, Matt.

[66:22]We get it.

[66:22]You're the Aretha of this podcast.

[66:23]We'll let you talk more.

[66:24]We're sorry.

[66:25]It's interesting, too.

[66:27]I read a great NPR article on that movie.

[66:29]And real quick, Sidney Pollack directing it, you know, they mentioned at the beginning

[66:31]of the movie that they had technical problems.

[66:33]Well, the technical issue is that he never did that clapping thing for a movie, you know,

[66:37]where they clap it.

[66:38]And so, they could never sing.

[66:40]I don't think we filmed the clap at the beginning of the podcast tonight, either.

[66:42]Oh, dude.

[66:43]Okay, ready?

[66:44]One.

[66:44]Two.

[66:45]Three.

[66:45]Three.

[66:46]Clap.

[66:46]All right.

[66:47]Fucking aired his way off all the time.

[66:49]Okay, so now that I've criticized him, but they literally filmed 20 hours and they couldn't

[66:53]use any of the footage because the sound and the video, they couldn't match it up.

[66:55]And somebody had to go by and go through it, like, frame by frame and make sure it all

[66:59]matched up.

[66:59]I couldn't imagine, you know, what it's like to go through and edit it.

[67:02]Just be so frustrated with all these mistakes.

[67:05]Spike Lee got into it.

[67:06]So, it is a Spike Legion.

[67:07]Yeah, it is.

[67:08]Certainly glad that somebody could.

[67:10]But that movie just came out a few years ago.

[67:12]But one of the movies that she was in that I remember.

[67:14]I remember as a kid.

[67:15]And she was so awesome in is the Blues Brothers.

[67:18]You guys remember her and the Blues Brothers.

[67:20]Four-Hole Chickens.

[67:21]The Blues Brothers come in.

[67:22]They order four-hole fried chickens and a Coke.

[67:24]And essentially, her husband at the time is like the line cook.

[67:28]And he comes out and he's like, oh, these are the Blues Brothers.

[67:30]You know about these guys.

[67:31]I got to go play with them.

[67:32]Elwood.

[67:33]The Blues Brothers.

[67:34]Shit.

[67:35]And so, all of a sudden, she's like.

[67:37]McIntyre Murphy.

[67:37]She's telling McIntyre Murphy, you better think about what you need to do here.

[67:44]I watched this a dozen times today.

[67:49]I love it so much.

[67:50]It's so good.

[67:51]This is just like so much.

[67:52]How is this tempo so fast?

[67:55]This is when you really realize how shitty of singers the Blues Brothers were.

[67:59]Like, they're your classic white guys who are like, hey, we like the blues.

[68:02]We should form a band.

[68:03]Who should we put in our movie?

[68:05]Well, let's put Ray Charles and Aretha Franklin in there.

[68:07]That's going to sound pretty good.

[68:08]One of the coolest things.

[68:10]When I looked at this on YouTube, someone, one of the recent commenters said, this movie

[68:14]is a time capsule where you can go back and see James Brown, Ray Charles, Cam Calloway,

[68:19]and now Aretha Franklin.

[68:20]That's pretty damn cool.

[68:21]That's right.

[68:22]John Belushi.

[68:23]So, one other thing.

[68:24]And Dan Aykroyd's thing.

[68:25]Wow, what a dream come true for me.

[68:27]One other thing that I thought was really cool.

[68:29]I know I've told you guys about these before.

[68:31]Have you guys ever watched these Kennedy Center Awards?

[68:33]Aaron, you mentioned it a little bit earlier.

[68:35]Essentially, these people get this award from the president or from the government, and

[68:40]it's always these musicians.

[68:41]They do this ceremony for them where they come up, and the person.

[68:44]The person is literally sitting next to this president in the box, and they bring up like

[68:48]four famous artists or four or five that essentially cover their biggest songs ever in these live

[68:53]performances, and I love these things.

[68:56]You know, I've seen Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, Led Zeppelin.

[68:59]Hello.

[68:59]Earth, Wind, and Fire was this year.

[69:01]People have to check these out.

[69:03]They are so good.

[69:04]But I came across this one for Carole King, and Carole King is sitting next to the president,

[69:11]and it was Michelle and Barack Obama at the time, and she's sitting there.

[69:14]And all of a sudden, the final act comes out, and it's Aretha to sing this song, and she's

[69:21]singing her song that Carole King covered, but it's so amazing.

[69:25]I mean, she's at the, you know, nearing the end of her life here.

[69:32]Yes.

[69:32]You can hear the age, yeah.

[69:34]But she literally walks out, and she goes off, and she sounds as great as, you know,

[69:40]40 years before.

[69:41]It's so cool.

[69:44]I will say, to be fair to Aaron, this was also another 30-minute video that somebody

[69:48]sent me that I had to transcode.

[69:50]And when I say I had to transcode it, I had to push a button and then wait.

[69:53]It's the one and only Aretha Franklin, though.

[69:56]I didn't...

[69:57]Aaron sent you a 30-minute song that was not Aretha.

[70:00]I sent you Aretha.

[70:01]Of the one and only John Goldsbring.

[70:02]Yeah.

[70:02]Russ, did you listen to how that song started, though?

[70:04]Oh, my God.

[70:05]It went...

[70:05]Oh, no.

[70:08]I just faded out right when Russ started singing.

[70:10]Sorry.

[70:10]The only political thing I'll say on this podcast is that I enjoyed that Russell said,

[70:14]Michelle's name first, when it was, like, it was Michelle and Barack Obama, because

[70:18]I think that's how we all feel now, right?

[70:19]Like, I think that's pretty awesome.

[70:21]Yeah.

[70:21]Michelle didn't drone strike anybody.

[70:23]Yeah.

[70:24]And that's all I'm going to say, too.

[70:29]Okay.

[70:30]So, the last thing that I had to mention with Aretha, like I said, I don't really know

[70:35]a lot of these songs, but what I remember Aretha from, she sang America the Beautiful

[70:41]at WrestleMania III, and we were really young at the time.

[70:44]But that's Hulk Hogan, Andre the Giant.

[70:46]And so...

[70:47]That's when he body slammed Andre.

[70:48]That's when he body slammed Andre.

[70:49]And so, one of the greatest musical moments in professional wrestling history is Vince

[70:54]McMahon introducing Aretha Franklin, like you did earlier, Rob.

[70:57]So cool.

[70:58]So, this is front of, like, 93,000 people in Detroit, where Aretha's from.

[71:06]The beautiful, the queen of soul, Miss Aretha Franklin!

[71:14]That...

[71:16]Vince McMahon is a genius, isn't he?

[71:18]Like, he even introduced her.

[71:19]He's got a great voice, too.

[71:20]And then listen to the difference between that introduction and her singing.

[71:22]He's like, yeah!

[71:24]Then it's like...

[71:25]So, this is front of, like, 100,000 people at the old Pontiac Silverdome.

[71:31]By the way, you've got to watch the video of this, because it's crazy.

[71:34]She's out in the middle of the crowd.

[71:35]Yeah.

[71:36]And everybody is, like, wearing these dorky...

[71:38]No offense, man.

[71:39]But they're wearing these dorky-ass sweatshirts in the crowd, and they're, like, turning to

[71:44]see where they came from.

[71:44]Yeah.

[71:44]Look at the cameras.

[71:44]They're, like, two feet from Aretha Franklin.

[71:46]They're, like, two feet from Aretha Franklin.

[71:48]They're, like, boo, we won Hulk Hogan.

[71:49]Like, it's just...

[71:50]It's crazy.

[71:51]But she absolutely slays this.

[71:54]And then it's really cool.

[71:55]It's a banger.

[71:56]So, WrestleMania, she is the only person to ever sing America the Beautiful at two WrestleManias.

[72:02]She did it at WrestleMania III and WrestleMania XXIII, both were in Detroit.

[72:06]Whoa.

[72:07]I hope she's got that on her LinkedIn page.

[72:09]You know, a lot of people don't know this, but that was actually the first of two musicals

[72:14]performances at WrestleMania.

[72:15]I got a long-sleeved slipper and my hair's slicked back.

[72:19]I got a two-year town.

[72:21]Guys, I got to say, for WrestleMania songs, Honky Tonk Man did it better.

[72:26]Oh, yeah.

[72:27]I'm pretty sure Honky Tonk Man was singing backup on America the Beautiful.

[72:31]I liked it at the end when he smashed a guitar over Aretha Franklin's head.

[72:37]All right.

[72:39]So, next up, we've got...

[72:41]Okay, guys.

[72:42]Just like with the three times I had sex with my wife.

[72:45]Baby, baby, babe.

[72:47]No, I think it was Steve, Steve, Steve.

[72:50]Bernie.

[72:51]How are we doing, Bernie?

[72:52]Look, one more time.

[72:55]I'm pretty sure...

[72:56]What did she say, Rob?

[72:57]Steve, Steve, Steve.

[72:59]Oh, Steve.

[73:00]Oh, Steve.

[73:01]Oh, Steve.

[73:02]Next song, number six, with no jokes about it.

[73:04]Baby, baby, baby.

[73:05]What is this, Britney Spears?

[73:08]Oh.

[73:10]Oh.

[73:12]I don't know if we'll hear it on this clip, but do you guys love the backup singers on this?

[73:22]Here we go.

[73:23]I love the backup singers, too.

[73:25]Yeah.

[73:25]Didn't everybody want to be a backup singer when they were younger?

[73:28]Like, you thought you could pull that off?

[73:29]Have you seen that documentary, Matt, where it's a six feet from fame?

[73:33]It's about all the backup singers?

[73:35]No, 20 feet from fame?

[73:35]No, I've not watched that one.

[73:36]Oh, I watched the one where they were a little bit closer.

[73:38]Yeah.

[73:39]No, you're right, Russell.

[73:40]The backup singer is Aretha's sister, right?

[73:42]Was it Irma or Carolyn?

[73:45]And then Sissy Houston.

[73:47]I don't know if we had machines.

[73:49]I believe that's Whitney Houston's mom, Aaron.

[73:51]Correct.

[73:52]Maybe you should look that up.

[73:52]That is correct.

[73:53]I was waiting for someone to jump into that.

[73:55]That's Whitney Houston's mom.

[73:57]Is there a delay on the Zoom?

[73:58]Rob, your mic's off.

[74:01]I think baby, baby, baby is the full, that's the fullest extent of Aretha's vocal.

[74:12]Yeah.

[74:12]Dionne Warwick, was she a backup?

[74:14]I don't know if it was on this album, but for some, for some, for some song, she was.

[74:19]Oh my God.

[74:20]For some Aretha songs.

[74:20]I don't know if on this album.

[74:21]I love the Aretha songs either where they're super fast or they're slow and she's going

[74:26]fast.

[74:26]Like, I just love that dynamic where she's playing off the music.

[74:29]All right.

[74:30]So now this is a great 16 bar blues.

[74:33]And so I want to play it.

[74:35]Dr.

[74:35]How many candy bars?

[74:37]16 in one night?

[74:41]Yeah.

[74:41]It's just like when I.

[74:42]It's like for youth football when I had to sell candy bars and at the end I hadn't sold

[74:45]any and I ate them all.

[74:46]It's a 16 bar blues.

[74:47]Rob.

[74:47]I know I said that in the last episode too, but leave me alone.

[74:50]Rob, no candy bars before that boudoir shoot.

[74:52]None.

[74:53]You got to lay off them all.

[74:54]It's going to be me holding the king size.

[74:57]Even if it's a baby, baby, baby Ruth.

[74:59]No baby, baby, baby Ruths.

[75:01]I'm going to be holding one of those fun size.

[75:02]Number 11 is going to be there?

[75:03]Yeah.

[75:03]I'm going to be like, this is actually a real size candy bar.

[75:05]So then every.

[75:06]Okay.

[75:06]Dr.

[75:07]Field.

[75:08]For scale.

[75:08]Yeah.

[75:11]There's going to be no scale.

[75:12]My boudoir shoot.

[75:13]I can tell you that.

[75:13]I love this song.

[75:14]So great.

[75:14]It's literally about like, Hey, I've got friends over.

[75:17]My friends need to get the hell out of here.

[75:19]Cause I need to get laid.

[75:20]That's what the song is about.

[75:22]Right?

[75:22]Yeah.

[75:23]I like that.

[75:23]It's like, well, company's okay.

[75:24]Once in a while, but that's not what I'm trying to.

[75:26]It's time for you to get the hell out of here.

[75:29]Motley crew covered this song, right?

[75:31]Yeah.

[75:31]I really, I'm, I'm, I really thought there were going to be more Motley crew jokes on

[75:36]this episode.

[75:37]So I'm impressed with us for not going there until now.

[75:39]Oh, that makes me think.

[75:42]Remember my boudoir shoot.

[75:42]I should maybe be in a boat.

[75:44]You ever see that Motley crew one where he was honking the horn with his giant hog.

[75:47]Anyway, it's a great video.

[75:49]Is Steve going to be on that boat with you too or not?

[75:51]One of my, one of my favorite.

[75:52]I'm going to have to edit his name on every time you guys, otherwise he'll get so mad

[75:56]at me.

[75:56]All right.

[75:58]Next one.

[75:58]Good times.

[75:59]Sam cook song.

[76:00]I love this song.

[76:04]Maybe it's just like the poppy hook to it, but I love it.

[76:07]Oh no, it's great.

[76:08]Really good guitar.

[76:12]I love the guitar on this track too.

[76:14]I don't know who I should have looked up who the guitarist is, but I think it's her husband,

[76:18]Matt guitar, Murphy.

[76:18]All right.

[76:26]Next up, we've got do right.

[76:27]Woman do right, man.

[76:29]Russell mentioned that he doesn't know the songs in this album that well.

[76:35]I know this album really well for this song really well from the Willie Nelson cover,

[76:39]but I prefer to read this version.

[76:42]Listen to the recording quality again.

[76:44]This is the other one she did at Muscle Shoals.

[76:46]Oh yeah, that's right.

[76:48]But they didn't finish it right.

[76:49]They like started a fight.

[76:50]Well, what the hell?

[76:53]I just said that earlier in the podcast, Aaron.

[76:55]Do you listen?

[76:55]Let Rob talk.

[76:57]Let Rob talk.

[76:58]He also said they only did one song.

[77:01]No, guys, I explained it.

[77:03]Don't make me go.

[77:04]Okay.

[77:04]Play the tape.

[77:05]Rewind.

[77:06]They obviously played two songs.

[77:08]Thanks Rob for playing that tape.

[77:09]I mean, no, wait, I wouldn't say thanks for playing the tape.

[77:12]But I'm listening on the tape.

[77:12]But that is number, that song on the Rolling Stones top 500 songs of all time is 476.

[77:19]So we've got three songs on this album on the top 500 songs of all time.

[77:24]Next up, Save Me.

[77:25]The song just feels so much different than all the other ones, right?

[77:33]I don't know if it's a King Curtis inspiration, but it sounds different to me.

[77:37]It feels out of place.

[77:38]The guitar is way different.

[77:39]King Curtis.

[77:42]I think it's a good point.

[77:42]Is this a King Curtis?

[77:44]Is he playing it?

[77:45]I mean, it sounds a lot like what I've heard from him.

[77:47]God dang, that sounds good though.

[77:51]Just creeping along.

[77:53]I love it.

[77:54]And I love it.

[77:55]Now listen, that's the beginning part of the song.

[77:57]Listen to what it sounds like by the end.

[77:59]I mean, it just builds.

[78:02]It's putting, it's like a Memphis stew, right?

[78:03]You're putting in all the funky bass and everything.

[78:06]It picks up steam.

[78:08]Oh, yes.

[78:09]Oh, yeah.

[78:10]I love it.

[78:11]Tone sax in there.

[78:12]All right.

[78:16]So the next one is when I pay $5 for a burger at McDonald's and I say,

[78:22]wait a minute, change is going to come here.

[78:24]Oh, my God.

[78:25]I can't believe.

[78:26]That's a good one.

[78:26]I can't even.

[78:27]No, that's the last song of the album, too.

[78:30]So that's the best joke.

[78:31]Oh, my God.

[78:33]Aaron's the music expert, but that's the best moment on the album is that note right there, right?

[78:37]That note to me.

[78:39]And also just knowing that she's.

[78:41]Oh, this is a Sam Cooke song.

[78:42]Also, Sam wrote this one.

[78:44]She knew Sam.

[78:45]She grew up with Sam.

[78:46]And so when she sings that when she adds that little tag at the beginning and says, you know,

[78:50]an old friend said to me, this is after Sam was gone, had been gone for almost five years at this point.

[78:54]It's a I mean, this is such a powerful statement.

[78:58]And she adds.

[79:02]Yeah, she adds a little embellishment to the vocal line that Sam didn't do and makes it her own.

[79:06]And this.

[79:07]Yeah, this song is just it's a killer.

[79:08]I have.

[79:11]I have to say, guys, I.

[79:12]I didn't know much about Aretha past respect and the Blues Brothers stuff, but I really did.

[79:18]When I was listening to this album at work, I enjoyed the hell out of it.

[79:20]Once again, these albums have pretty good songs on them.

[79:23]I got it.

[79:23]It turns out.

[79:24]And I don't I'm going to say something controversial here.

[79:28]Aretha Franklin is a pretty good singer.

[79:30]Yeah.

[79:31]You're going to die on that hill.

[79:35]Yeah, she's no Dan Aykroyd and Blues Brothers, maybe.

[79:37]But she's a pretty she's a pretty good.

[79:38]She does make a significant change to the lyrics there.

[79:41]Because Sam said, it's been too hard to live in, but I'm afraid to die because I don't know what's up there beyond the sky, which was a big statement for a gospel singer.

[79:50]That was that was something because Sam and Aretha lived that same life of going from gospel to secular and then you couldn't really go back.

[79:58]And Aretha changes it the tiniest bit because she says, I might not be if I knew it was up there beyond the sky.

[80:04]She's not willing to admit the same level of doubt that Sam was willing to admit to, which was a big deal for someone.

[80:11]Who grew up in that world.

[80:12]All right, let's get to everybody's favorite part of the album.

[80:17]No, we enjoyed it.

[80:17]You guys are such look.

[80:18]You need to talk about Steve.

[80:19]Are we talking about Steve?

[80:20]You guys need to have more high confidence like I do.

[80:23]Rob, why did you have to pause the podcast to go put on that number 11 jersey?

[80:27]Now you're not wearing anything.

[80:28]And it's a Steve on the back.

[80:32]You sickos.

[80:33]You guys want me to do this photo shoot right in front of you, don't you?

[80:36]Okay, wait, let me get the camera.

[80:40]I feel like I just blew.

[80:41]I blew our load on our post post recording.

[80:43]All right, so let me come back with it hard.

[80:48]Okay, I'm going to squat down over the camera on the zoom here.

[80:50]Okay, so that's the boudoir photo shoot is just me in the bathroom with a throwaway camera.

[80:55]All right.

[80:56]This is everyone's favorite part of the podcast.

[80:59]So you guys got to have confidence like I do.

[81:01]Everyone loves this part.

[81:02]They think it's great.

[81:02]It's the final rating system.

[81:04]This is album number 13 on the list.

[81:06]And I'm asking you, is this album rolling well toned?

[81:09]Is it perfect at 13?

[81:11]I get rolling boned.

[81:12]It should be much higher than 13.

[81:13]Or is this album a rolling groan?

[81:15]It should be lower than 13.

[81:17]Russell, what do you think?

[81:18]Like I said earlier, I know Aretha from kind of pop culture moments or movies or other things, not necessarily your music.

[81:24]But every time you see Aretha at a performance, they announced her as the one and only Aretha Franklin.

[81:30]And I can see why they announced her like that.

[81:33]And she deserves every bit of it.

[81:35]And to me, this is the first time I know Marvin Gaye is considered an amazing singer.

[81:39]John Lennon is up there on the list, which I don't understand.

[81:41]I don't understand why.

[81:42]But this is the first time we're listening to someone sing kind of gave me chills and just like blew me off my off my feet.

[81:49]And so I wanted to share this really cool quote from Mary J.

[81:52]Blige with you guys.

[81:53]You know, something that God made in Aretha is a gift from God.

[81:59]When it comes to expressing yourself through song, there is no one who can touch her.

[82:04]She is the reason why women want to sing.

[82:07]It's beautiful to see because it helps people with a lack of confidence in their ability to sing.

[82:11]Like myself, I look at her and think, I need a piece of that, whatever that is.

[82:17]And I just thought that was so cool.

[82:19]It's like the best way to kind of explain like Aretha Franklin.

[82:22]Her voice is just so huge.

[82:23]It's so amazing.

[82:24]And and I love the album.

[82:27]I don't know where it should rank in the top 10 or whatever.

[82:30]I thought it was kind of monotone to a lot of extent.

[82:33]Like there wasn't a lot of variation between the songs except for a couple of them.

[82:37]But she's the greatest singer of all time.

[82:39]And so it has to be up there on the list.

[82:40]So I say rolling tone.

[82:41]All right, Matt, what do you think?

[82:44]Rolling well-toned, I think.

[82:45]Is that what you call it, Rob?

[82:46]Yes.

[82:46]Again, guys, you guys joke around all like I don't know the rating system.

[82:50]Everybody's talking about it.

[82:51]We love it.

[82:51]Rolling well-toned, rolling boned, or rolling grown.

[82:53]Matt, what do you think?

[82:54]I'm going to say rolling well-toned.

[82:57]I admittedly not the biggest fan of the genre.

[83:02]Aretha Franklin.

[83:05]I don't know how much I'm going to go back and listen to a lot of Aretha Franklin.

[83:11]But absolutely, to what Russell said, she's the one and only, and she does a phenomenal job.

[83:18]Obviously, that's kind of a dumb statement.

[83:21]She's an amazing singer.

[83:23]And so absolutely, this album deserves to be where it's at on the list.

[83:30]I mean, maybe it could be a little higher.

[83:31]I would not disagree if it was a little higher.

[83:35]But for me, it's a rolling well-toned.

[83:37]Aaron, what do you think?

[83:39]Yeah.

[83:40]Matt.

[83:41]When Russell both said it, I don't know how you possibly talk academically about Aretha Franklin.

[83:46]She is an angel from heaven.

[83:48]But I'm going to do it anyway.

[83:50]I don't know if this is her best album in terms of a work of art and music.

[83:56]I think Young, Gifted, and Black might be better.

[83:59]But we'll get to that one.

[84:00]Because I like the musicians better on Young, Gifted, and Black.

[84:03]But I'm going to say rolling boned because I think this can't be out of the top ten.

[84:08]She's just too much of a force of nature.

[84:11]So I'm going to say rolling boned.

[84:13]One of my favorite things about this podcast is now how Aaron has articulate things to say

[84:18]and Matt has articulate things to say.

[84:19]But I've just decided I'm going to start quoting other people instead of giving my own opinion.

[84:24]It's my favorite thing.

[84:26]Guys, you know, one thing I've noticed about this podcast is Aaron has a smart thing.

[84:30]No.

[84:30]Okay.

[84:31]So I can't do any of this stuff right.

[84:33]Hey, Rob, Rob, didn't you get the memo?

[84:34]We don't give credit, Aaron.

[84:36]We don't give credit for that.

[84:37]Yes, I did get that text, Jay, that we're all on and not Aaron.

[84:40]Sorry.

[84:40]So here's the deal.

[84:41]Rob, how would you rate the album?

[84:43]I will say this, guys.

[84:44]I think, listen, and you might say, oh, Rob didn't come up with the rhyme this time.

[84:49]Oh, and he couldn't think of one at the top of the kept.

[84:50]Wrong.

[84:51]I'm rating this a rolling Aretha Franklin.

[84:53]Franklin.

[84:54]Oh, no.

[84:55]Because that's who it is.

[84:56]It's Aretha Franklin.

[84:57]Here's the deal.

[84:58]I love the album.

[84:59]I think it's great.

[85:00]I have to admit, guys, I did do that opening song in one take.

[85:04]So it does kind of make me think maybe I should be a superstar as well.

[85:07]And maybe I've just missed my calling this whole time.

[85:09]So.

[85:10]Something to think about.

[85:11]All right.

[85:12]So that is it for tonight.

[85:13]What a letdown, Rob.

[85:14]Once again, pumping the brakes at the end of this trip.

[85:16]Let's stop this podcast and get out.

[85:18]We'll think about it.

[85:19]For the two people that still listen to this part of the show.

[85:21]We've got our next album is number 14, Exile on Main Street.

[85:25]Ooh, the Rolling Stones, guys.

[85:26]I can't wait to listen to that.

[85:27]I wonder what we'll say.

[85:28]Psych.

[85:29]Go back in our podcast.

[85:30]We already talked about it, you losers.

[85:31]Get back there.

[85:32]That used to be number seven.

[85:36]We are all the way up then, guys.

[85:38]We're jumping ahead.

[85:38]It's like we're going two weeks in the future.

[85:40]To number 15.

[85:41]And it's Public Enemy.

[85:44]It takes a nation of millions to hold us back.

[85:46]Finally, I get to use my Terminator.

[85:49]I'll be back.

[85:51]Shit.

[85:56]Why am I so shitty ending this podcast?

[85:59]I don't know what to do.

[86:00]Okay.

[86:00]Think of a funny joke to end the podcast.

[86:01]I got it.

[86:02]I got it.

[86:02]Okay.

[86:04]That's it for Beck Did It Better.

[86:06]I think I did.

[86:08]No.

[86:10]but you're just too lazy to look it up online if you want to hear four guys who chat and then

[86:20]they get off track i've got the perfect podcast for you jack beck did it better i got news for

[86:30]claire the square our caller earlier and everyone else who's talking about these soccer songs the

[86:34]new song for the the minnesota loons next year is going to be i heart feet or whatever rob played

[86:40]at the beginning of this podcast aaron respects feet

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